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01:09:00 <Kuschelpony> good evening
01:14:30 <K> even
01:17:31 <T3sl4> bad odding
01:20:00 * Ampera zeros out T3sl4
01:20:14 <T3sl4> i'm your lover, i'm your zero
01:20:37 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wk7C64kaP4
01:20:38 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Smashing Pumpkins - Zero (Official Music Video)
01:42:37 <K> zorro
02:00:45 <+electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb5etF6KW6s
02:00:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Space Collection Part 3: Everyday Astronaut figures out the RL-10 Rocket Engine
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02:24:33 <Ampera> wccftech.com/3dfx-interactive-acquired-jansen-products-returning-after-20-years-with-major-announcements-this-week
02:24:34 <Ampera> huh
02:41:00 <K> wes gonna gets us voodoo6
02:42:00 <Ysjoelfir> morningses!
02:42:29 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir and k
02:42:36 <Ampera> how are you two creatures doing
02:42:57 <Ysjoelfir> fine. eating right now. you?
02:43:00 <T3sl4> an Ysjoelfir!
02:43:28 <Ampera> wishing for food, but knowing it will be many hours before I can have any
02:43:44 <Ampera> have a planned parenthood appointment after work, and they usually make me wait two hours
02:43:46 <Ampera> if not more
02:44:51 <Ampera> they're seriously incompetent administratively, they continue to find some way to screw up my insurance
02:45:03 <Ampera> but they're basically the only competition, yay monopolies
02:45:25 <Ysjoelfir> what do you do there?
02:46:56 <K> imma bout to head home
02:55:07 <steve30> hi
02:58:31 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, chat for five minutes about how drugs are going, and then let them tell me to go get bloodwork at a lab
02:58:42 <Ampera> I don't know if this one had to be in person for some reason, but that's basically all it was
02:58:48 <T3sl4> Ampera: half of the country wants to destroy PP (and almost every other govt service), or at least strip as much funding as they can. Mediocrity is the rule, by design and intent :/
02:59:04 <Ysjoelfir> wow. thats.... annoying I think?
02:59:13 <Ampera> since when was PP a government service
02:59:40 <Ampera> they're a not-for-profit organization
02:59:57 <Ampera> and I'm not taking charity from them, I am most certainly paying for this
03:00:07 <Ampera> this is a business that makes money off me
03:00:22 <T3sl4> i know. but tell that to them
03:01:00 <Ampera> My point was precisely that they provide services unobtainable at any other provider, and are therefore able to give shitty service
03:01:57 <Ampera> I do not give two shits about who does or does not want to fund/defund them, they put significant resources into politics, so they get politics back.
03:02:42 <T3sl4> (they recieve fed funding, or did until recently; it would be a simple matter of tying additional funds to improvement of the services you're using, but, yeah, that's not gonna happen these days)
03:03:12 <Ampera> Lots of companies receive federal funding, that doesn't make them a government service
03:03:36 <Ampera> I get what you're saying, in that while Amtrak is a company, they're effectively a government service
03:04:05 <T3sl4> i did say "and" other govt service
03:04:09 <Ampera> planned parenthood is just a clusterfuck of legal and political complications that is far and beyond what I care to care about.
03:04:23 <T3sl4> related by purpose, not by direct connection
03:05:29 <Ampera> you said "and every other", which means that planned parenthood is a government service
03:05:39 <Ampera> er, "and almost every other"
03:05:44 <Ampera> to be accurate
03:05:55 <T3sl4> fine. i admit it. you're exponentially smarter than me. i apologize for ever saying a word.
03:07:19 <Ampera> at least you admit it :P
03:09:36 <T3sl4> right.
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04:11:15 <Kuschelpony> lol
04:11:46 <Kuschelpony> when someone disagrees witzh my explanation of how SINAD is calculated and links to wikipedia, where they use exactly the same definition :)
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08:40:14 <+electrohead> o/
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10:47:20 * Ampera hugs electrohead
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11:07:48 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
11:08:22 <+electrohead> good, you?
11:08:28 <Ampera> I bought new strings
11:10:21 <+electrohead> nice, what kind?
11:10:32 <Ampera> bass
11:10:47 <Ampera> bought halfround strings, they're like a cross between roundwound and flatwound strings
11:10:59 <Ampera> basically it's a normal roundwound, except it's wrapped thicker, and then polished down to size
11:11:10 <Ampera> the idea being you get the feel of a flatwound, but the sound of a roundwound
11:25:34 <+electrohead> I more meant, what company makes the strings, lol
11:29:59 <Ampera> d'addario
11:30:08 <Ampera> afaik they are the only company that makes halfround strings
11:30:16 <Ampera> I don't /love/ their strings really
11:30:21 <Ampera> even the not cheap ones often seem cheap
11:34:00 <+electrohead> heh
11:34:07 <+electrohead> I usually use ernie ball
11:39:42 <Ampera> My prior strings were La Bella gold colored flatwound
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11:49:26 <Ampera> I'm considering getting a 7 string set and transposing my bass up a string
11:49:52 <Ampera> the last string is so low it's not very useful, but I could totally use higher range
11:53:01 * Halcyon slaps Ampera on the butthole
11:54:11 * T3sl4 surfs Halcyon on the butthole
11:54:23 <Halcyon> Hahaha
11:55:03 <T3sl4> i made mac & cheese again
11:55:21 <Halcyon> Yummy
11:55:33 <Halcyon> I had a wrap with cheese, tomato and mortadella
11:55:37 <Halcyon> Might make another one
11:56:20 * T3sl4 sprinkles Halcyon balsamically
11:56:58 <Halcyon> Mmmm vinegary
11:57:24 <T3sl4> well, more of a mozarella and basil thing than mortadella, but that'd do too
12:16:46 <+electrohead> "the last string is so low it's not very useful"
12:16:48 <+electrohead> what?
12:16:54 <+electrohead> starting listening to, and playing, metal
12:16:59 <+electrohead> you'll learn how to use it, lol
12:22:25 * T3sl4 fucks electrohead djently
12:31:00 <Halcyon> :P
12:37:15 * T3sl4 shares some tenacious 'D' with Halcyon too
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13:03:11 <Halcyon> \o/
13:03:13 <Halcyon> I love the D
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15:23:22 * Halcyon throws a Dyson at T3sl4
15:23:30 <Halcyon> My new air purifiers arrived today :D
15:24:35 <Halcyon> No VOCs or NO2 detected. 0.002 mg/m3 of HCHO and about 2-4 μg/m3 of PM2.5 and PM10 particles.
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17:48:58 <doggyrat> hello folks
17:48:59 <EEVBot> Hello, doggyrat!
17:49:02 <Halcyon> Hey doggyrat
17:49:13 <doggyrat> hello Halcyon
17:49:20 <Halcyon> What's happening in Canadia?
17:49:46 <doggyrat> Halcyon: is EEVBot just a bot
17:49:54 <Halcyon> Yes sir
17:49:59 <Halcyon> eevbot time
17:50:00 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/05 17:49:59 at the EEVBlog lab.
17:50:09 <Halcyon> eevbot time T3sl4
17:50:09 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/05 02:50:08 where T3sl4 resides.
17:50:13 <Halcyon> And such
17:50:30 <doggyrat> i see
17:50:44 <Halcyon> It does unit conversion and things like that too
17:50:49 <doggyrat> why are you asking me about canada
17:50:56 <Halcyon> Aren't you in Canada?
17:51:04 <Halcyon> Or am I getting confused?
17:51:31 <Halcyon> And great, there is a big hole in my sock
17:51:38 * doggyrat is a dog trapped in a human body located in germany nuremberg
17:51:46 <Halcyon> Ahhh Germany/Canada.
17:51:47 <Halcyon> Same thing
17:52:07 <Halcyon> So therefore...
17:52:10 <Halcyon> eevbot time Ysjoelfir
17:52:10 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/05 09:52:09 where Ysjoelfir resides.
17:52:14 <Halcyon> Would be correct?
17:52:17 <doggyrat> well i you would ask some american from countryside yes
17:52:51 <kiska> eevbot time kiska
17:52:52 <EEVBot> No time zone data found for kiska!
17:52:55 <kiska> :D
17:52:59 <Halcyon> You have to set it :P
17:53:06 <doggyrat> hello kiska
17:53:09 <Halcyon> I forget how, you might have to read the help file
17:53:19 <kiska> I just msg the bot help :D
17:54:00 <Halcyon> And if there are any problems with it, blame Ampera and electrohead, they wrote the damn thing
17:54:03 <kiska> eevbot timeset Australia/Sydney
17:54:04 <doggyrat> i am working to design a new holder for the G36 scope i got yesterday from china
17:54:04 <EEVBot> kiska: time zone added!
17:54:10 <kiska> eevbot time kiska
17:54:11 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/05 17:54:10 where kiska resides.
17:54:16 <Halcyon> \o/
17:54:41 <doggyrat> it is an softair scope and was not that expensive
17:55:10 <Halcyon> What's a softair scope?
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17:56:41 <doggyrat> rifle scope for airsoft weapons
17:56:55 <Halcyon> Ahhh
17:56:58 <Halcyon> Pew pew
17:57:10 <doggyrat> wuff wuff hello DogWomble
17:57:18 <DogWomble> hey DogWomble
17:57:30 <doggyrat> Halcyon: i just do camera no pew pew
17:57:56 <K> hello shoestrings
17:58:01 <Halcyon> Oh right
17:58:13 <Halcyon> Hello lacky
17:58:28 <Halcyon> Or lackey
17:58:54 <doggyrat> i ordered mini stepper too , one pair did arrive yesterday , but they are much smaller than i expected
17:59:27 <doggyrat> it is hard for me to see anything of it even with my reading glasses on
18:00:44 <doggyrat> the steppers of old cd rom units would be great , but i do not know anyone having used ones to give away
18:01:34 <kiska> I guess I'll jump on a plane to NZ once lockdown ends to play airsoft :D
18:02:28 <doggyrat> is weapon law that restrictive in australia that you can not play there
18:05:13 <kiska> airsoft I think is classified as a gun
18:05:45 <kiska> Or they are "look like" guns so must have gun laws apply
18:05:50 <doggyrat> classified as kind of air gun
18:07:53 <K> Halcyon prolly knows
18:07:54 <doggyrat> but if you would play hear in a kind of enclosed hangar it would be ok for germany , there are rules for transportation too
18:08:44 <doggyrat> K: i hope he knows , he is supposed to know those things, apart of other rules
18:09:45 <doggyrat> but i am just working on camera projects, would like to use a mini stepper for focusing
18:11:16 <Halcyon> I don't know anything
18:12:41 <doggyrat> Halcyon: that is what all the nerds do say about themself
18:13:43 <DogWomble> If anyone wants to listen to an audio test for the next few minutes of a couple of geeks rambling for ap otential podcat - http://cp7.digistream.info:12308/index.html?sid=1
18:13:43 <EEVBot> [Title] - Shoutcast Server
18:13:50 <DogWomble> i'm testing with Halcyon
18:13:57 <Halcyon> It's me and DogWomble talking shit
18:14:23 <Halcyon> We need feedback on audio level/quality
18:14:53 * doggyrat searches the headset in the drawer
18:16:50 <doggyrat> no delay in sound
18:18:07 <doggyrat> wuff wuff
18:18:30 <doggyrat> never mind about that question
18:20:34 <doggyrat> sound is clear and loud
18:21:32 <doggyrat> voice are clear and you can recognize the persons voice
18:22:20 <doggyrat> DogWomble: sound like very britsh
18:22:27 <doggyrat> sounds
18:22:43 <K> no wokry for me
18:22:56 <Halcyon> Which browser you using?
18:22:57 <K> ah, not in the vlc
18:23:09 <DogWomble> there's a palyer iin the browser
18:23:10 <K> is working from browser
18:23:20 <doggyrat> i have never heard australians speaking but even Halcyon sound british to me
18:23:26 <K> not the .html directly, it is not that smart
18:23:41 <K> yes you do
18:25:19 <K> is queensland the florida of aus?
18:25:34 <K> and is dogwomble queensland man?
18:26:02 <K> old ppl rednecs and crocodiles
18:26:44 <K> 'straaya!
18:27:49 <DogWomble> https://discord.gg/vddnVRvu3Z
18:28:12 <K> im at work unfortunately
18:28:41 <doggyrat> i do not like my accent and my voice that is why i am using irc
18:29:11 <doggyrat> i am still here and can hear you
18:30:20 <doggyrat> my hovercraft ....
18:30:40 <Halcyon> steve30, you around?
18:30:46 <Halcyon> We need your presenter skills
18:31:12 <doggyrat> i did not understand the rest of his german
18:31:46 <K> a body under the bed
18:32:35 <doggyrat> Halcyon: dice and air purifier => trying to open an illegal gamble hall :P
18:34:33 <doggyrat> decent air purifier , sorry i got that wrong
18:35:49 <K> dye sun
18:36:26 <doggyrat> gremlins voice
18:36:57 <Halcyon> Who else is listening?
18:36:58 <doggyrat> sweden has the same time as me
18:37:31 <doggyrat> 10:37am
18:38:31 <kiska> Your mysterious third listener is currently unfucking snmp
18:38:58 <Halcyon> Hahaha
18:39:05 <Halcyon> Want to join us on voice kiska ?
18:39:08 * doggyrat dies after 10 sec in any game
18:40:02 <K> we do hear the bird
18:40:47 <K> the tricky part will be having bird press it
18:41:32 <kiska> ARRRRRGH https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/0aeb6a2a832fa1eb/image.png
18:42:53 <kiska> Uh... ok?
18:43:03 <K> "kiska" is "cat" in russian
18:43:07 <K> also "pussy"
18:43:15 <kiska> :D
18:43:28 <kiska> I did learn Russian in like year 2
18:43:39 <kiska> Maybe 5 seconds?
18:43:53 <kiska> or 10?
18:44:04 <K> feels less than 5 sec to me
18:45:49 <K> the internets today ar not the weth towel and shoestring intenets of 2000
18:45:55 <Halcyon> \o/
18:46:48 <K> sound quality is ok
18:47:03 <K> no echoes or excess noise
18:48:56 <K> yay
18:48:58 <kiska> byte
18:49:00 <kiska> bye*
18:49:16 <Halcyon> That could have been A LOT worse
18:49:26 <DogWomble> yeah, i'm happy with how that went
18:49:36 <DogWomble> i'l lneed to test with qwerty as well but i think we can make this work
18:49:42 <Halcyon> Yeh absolutely
18:49:57 <Halcyon> Now these people know what I sound like though
18:50:01 <Halcyon> I need to be Asian next time
18:50:01 <DogWomble> :D
18:50:07 <kiska> FINALLY! SNMP WORKS! https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/536fdd2db1f2b613/image.png
18:50:16 <Halcyon> Hooray!
18:50:36 <Halcyon> Sophos? Really?
18:50:37 <Halcyon> :P
18:50:45 <kiska> Its free :D
18:50:54 <Halcyon> So is pfsense :P
18:51:08 <DogWomble> Stupidly Obnoxious Pathetic Heap Of Shit?
18:51:16 <kiska> :D
18:51:23 <Halcyon> No, that's Cisco
18:51:25 <Halcyon> :P
18:51:30 <kiska> I also learned Sophos at TAFE so :D
18:51:39 <DogWomble> i don't know about their SNMP products, but i remember not being a huge fan of their antivirus
18:51:47 <Halcyon> We should do a networking night on Shoutcast
18:52:02 <kiska> Sophos XG seems better than their antivirus
18:52:09 <kiska> But Sophos Enterprise isn't too bad
18:52:10 <Halcyon> Hahaha
18:52:14 <Halcyon> Yeh
18:52:16 <Halcyon> I'd hope so
18:52:39 <Halcyon> Anyway, din dins for me. I'll be back in about 30 minutes. Happy to do another chat for shits and giggles later DogWomble if you like?
18:52:53 <DogWomble> sounds good Halcyon
18:52:57 <kiska> I would also hope so given Western Sydney Uni pays them like 6 or 7 figures a year for it
18:53:06 <Halcyon> Where in Sydney are you kiska ?
18:53:09 <kiska> Penrith
18:53:17 <Halcyon> Oh, no far from me
18:53:20 <Halcyon> *not
18:53:26 <kiska> lol
18:53:27 <kiska> :D
18:53:31 <kiska> Small world?
18:53:39 <Halcyon> I guess
18:55:50 <doggyrat> podcast ended ? sorry i was out for the bin
18:56:11 <kiska> RIP
18:56:28 <Halcyon> doggyrat, might be back later
18:56:31 <Halcyon> I have to make dinner
18:56:48 <Halcyon> Also, I ran out of shit to talk about
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19:56:51 * Halcyon mews at the room
20:44:39 <doggyrat> wb Halcyon
20:44:56 <doggyrat> sorry i was away too just came back
20:45:42 * DogWomble waves again
20:46:05 <doggyrat> wuff wuff
20:46:22 <doggyrat> DogWomble: i do bark in real life too
20:46:33 <DogWomble> heh :D
20:46:56 <doggyrat> i got a video to show you about my project
20:47:04 <doggyrat> can i pm you
20:48:30 <DogWomble> sure
20:50:43 <DogWomble> so wehat's hte project?
20:55:14 <Ampera> Halcyon, I didn't write it
20:55:27 <Ampera> you guys threw out the one I wrote :P
20:55:41 <Ampera> so if it breaks, I get to laugh >:D
20:58:31 <doggyrat> Ampera: what script are you talking about
20:58:55 <Ampera> The EEVBot
20:59:57 <doggyrat> who is doing the youtube channel eevblog
21:00:13 <doggyrat> is it the same person owning this channel here
21:03:15 <Ampera> David Jones, he does not operate nor participate in this channel, but he is aware of and approves of it
21:05:55 <doggyrat> unfortunately i missed all this electronic and programming knowledge, i started 5 years ago as i have been for the first time to a FabLab (kind of maker-space) in my city
21:06:53 <doggyrat> my progresses are very very very slow, may be it is my age or just my rat-brain
21:08:09 <doggyrat> i am a mixture of Pinky and Brain, got Brain's appearance and Pinky's brain :(
21:35:35 <K> it was not clear wich one of those is isnane and wich one is a genius
21:49:02 <kiska> Hai I back :D
21:49:26 <Ampera> K, yes
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22:25:19 * electrohead yawns and waves
22:32:46 * Ampera upturns a shaker of red pepper flakes on some pizza, and hands it to electrohead
22:33:49 * electrohead adds hot sauce
22:34:25 <doggyrat> electrohead: did you wake up
22:35:38 <+electrohead> no
22:35:41 <+electrohead> lol
22:35:45 * electrohead pokes kiska
22:36:00 * kiska pokes electrohead
22:36:31 <+electrohead> I was awaiting a reply from you in #ASD, but then bonny removed you, because you didn't reply
22:37:21 <kiska> Ah I see :D
22:37:29 <kiska> I kinda figured
22:37:36 <+electrohead> :P
22:37:53 <+electrohead> we have a no-idle policy in that channel, pretty much you join, get the help you need, and GTFO
22:38:14 <kiska> Yep I read back my log :D
22:38:15 <+electrohead> but don't feel bad, we have to manually remove people all the time
22:38:36 <+electrohead> where are you from, btw?
22:39:28 <kiska> Sydney
22:39:46 <+electrohead> ahh ok, cheers
22:39:55 <+electrohead> I'm from "the other side" ... of the world
22:40:07 <kiska> So Europe :D
22:40:24 <+electrohead> keep going lol
22:40:51 <+electrohead> USA, pennsylvania
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22:46:52 <K> more rednecks, great
22:48:33 <+electrohead> K: ??
22:48:39 <+electrohead> I don't live in the southern US
22:48:56 <K> are rednecks only in south?
22:49:10 <K> in my book they are everwhere in usa
22:50:43 <+electrohead> with that logic, they exist everywhere in the world
22:50:45 <+electrohead> :p
22:51:44 <Ampera> Pennsylvania is not rednecks, it's Amish
22:52:13 <Ampera> pretty much the same thing though
22:52:23 <K> better dressed
22:52:35 <Ampera> I live in NY, all we have are sex offenders and crime
22:54:30 <+electrohead> K: lol
22:59:27 <kiska> Ampera: The Cuomo problem?
22:59:54 <Ampera> That's at least one of them anyways
23:00:10 <kiska> Well its the only high profile thing I've heard so :D
23:00:18 <kiska> I am calling it the Cuomo problem :D
23:01:34 <steve30> hi
23:03:19 <Ampera> It is, but that doesn't mean it's the only one :P
23:03:54 <Ampera> Cuomo isn't being persecuted because he touched women, it's because he's lost too many friends, and made too many enemies.
23:29:44 <coppice> Ampera: people like Cuomo don't have friends. they have associates, who associate with the best option of the day
23:31:24 <coppice> Ampera: what's red neck about the Amish? They seem like polar opposites..... at least in principle, although the unprincipled ones will obviously mess that up
23:33:38 <Ampera> that's the joke
23:35:29 <+electrohead> lol
23:38:19 <coppice> Ampera: which joke? Cuomo or "Red Necks vs Amish, the Movie"
23:38:43 <Ampera> They're both funny with nobody laughing.
23:39:17 <coppice> Oh, come on. "Red Necks vs Amish, the Movie" could be made hilarious
23:39:41 <Ampera> Only if it was a porno.
23:40:53 <+electrohead> the amish would win, mainly because they could just run over the rednecks on their horse 'n' buggies
23:41:33 <Ampera> If the rednecks blew up their barns, they'd make two in the time it took to blow up the one
23:50:45 <K> haha
23:55:16 <kiska> Stupid product... Saying low battery at 4.3V and not turning on at 4.15V
23:55:22 <kiska> Product in question https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B01N1UX8RW
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