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02:05 <coppice> Well I'm apoplectic with indifference
11:03 <Ampera> I don't care.
33:25 <coppice> Oh, that's so nice to hear. For a while I thought you cared.
39:31 <Ampera> meh
39:56 <coppice> That's the spirit
40:08 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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33:41 <Nothing\> welp, looks like i'm going vigilante mode today
34:02 <Nothing\> collected all the info i need on this black market dispensary that almost killed my brother
34:22 <Nothing\> now i'm just gonna find out who's the detective in charge of the drug task force here and forward that to him
34:37 <Nothing\> and forward it to the local news and our member of parliament
35:19 <Nothing\> although the MP thing, i think i may wait until i get more information about his doctor who's overprescribing him his meds and include that in the info i give them
36:05 <Nothing\> i should call health canada about it, too
36:34 <Nothing\> but basically my strategy is, if i can't force my brother to sober up, I'm going to take down all of his suppliers instead
36:43 <Nothing\> or at least all of his major suppliers and enablers
37:17 <Nothing\> cuz one thing i've learned about being a drug addict is it's not trying a drug that gets you hooked on it, it's having a steady source of the drug that gets you addicted
37:32 <Nothing\> cuz you just cant get addicted if you don't have a steady supply
37:42 <Nothing\> so he may be able to still get something now and then, but not like he used to
38:03 <Nothing\> i also wanted to explore whether i could have him banned from the liquor store, since they're all tied together and run by the province
38:32 <Nothing\> i know you're able to have yourself banned from a liquor store, but i don't know if you can do it on their behalf. Probably not. But it's worth a try.
38:57 <Nothing\> i'd be remiss if i didn't try anything and everything to fix this, or at least mitigate it so this won't happen again
46:22 <Ampera> Nothing\, just watch out. It's bad idea to not be anonymous when reporting this shit.
46:30 <Ampera> I'd stick purely to making a police report
46:41 <Ampera> because if the people running those drugs caught wind, you might not end up so good yourself.
56:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, no no i 100% plan to be anonymous
56:22 <Nothing\> cuz i know they're in cahoots with biker clubs and probably even in the pockets of the police
56:29 <Nothing\> hence why i'm going to the MP about it too
56:47 <Nothing\> so if the police do nothing, it's basically going over their head
56:56 <Nothing\> it's like the equivalent of writing your senator
57:15 <Ampera> lol, NY senators have no authority over the police.
57:36 <Ampera> probably the next step up would be contacting state troopers
57:38 <Nothing\> yeah i'm not sure exactly how it works
57:50 <Nothing\> but i'm sure pressure from the media will force the police to do something to
57:51 <Nothing\> o
58:01 <Ampera> NY congressmen have no authority in NY pretty much
59:02 <Ampera> State law enforcement (or even county sheriff, but those usually are quite close to the city police) would probably be the only people, in my mind, who could go over the head of local authority
59:30 <Nothing\> but the way i see it, i've racked my brain all week about what happened to my brother
59:50 <Nothing\> and using the sherlock holmes method, i determined it had to be the 250mg thc gummies he took from that place
59:58 <Nothing\> cuz the seizures started hours within him taking them
00:07 <Nothing\> and he's never had a seizure before
00:22 <Nothing\> he was drinking and on clonazepam, so he wasn't going through withdrawal from either, which can cause seizures
00:37 <Nothing\> that is, the withdrawal can cause seizures
00:52 <Nothing\> AND he stopped having the seizures after 2 days in the hospital
01:03 <Nothing\> basically after the gummies would have worked their way out of his system
01:29 <Nothing\> i don't think they were laced, cuz the hospital would have picked up on that when they did a urinalysis, which is probably one of the first tests they did on him
01:57 <Nothing\> so in the absence of any other explanation
02:09 <Nothing\> the only remaining one which makes sense MUST be the cause
05:25 <Nothing\> damn, i just noticed all of the pages in some of my notebooks are turning yellow
05:32 <Nothing\> that's weird, they're barely a couple years old
05:56 <Nothing\> makes em look like they're from victorian times or something
10:11 <Nothing\> but anyways, i've got a copy of the invite card for this place, with the phone number on it. And my Mum's taken him there enough that she knows where it is. So I'm gonna get her to drive by or maybe stop a block away so i can walk past and get the address before i go to the police or anyone
10:58 <Nothing\> so i figure i'll provide them with the phone number and address and let them know what's going on there. But only if they allow me to speak directly to the detective in charge of the drug task force or whatever it's called here
11:20 <Nothing\> plus i'm gonna call crimestoppers for good measure
12:24 <Nothing\> and he has the same shrink as me, so i already have all of his info
13:16 <Nothing\> i figure with him, i'll file a complaint to the college of physicians and surgeons. Which is the organization that pretty much oversees and enforces the ethics and behavior of doctors
14:02 <Nothing\> like the organization i was gonna complain to about my therapist, but for doctors instead of therapists
26:38 * Nothing\ sighs
26:41 <Nothing\> i want to die
26:52 <Nothing\> that's not to say i want to kill myself
26:58 <Nothing\> but i just don't want to be here anymore
27:03 <Nothing\> i haven't for decades
27:47 <Nothing\> i feel like a fucking wild animal trapped in a box looking around frantically for some way out. Some way to make my situation better.
29:02 <coppice> Go outside. Look up. There's nothing for many light years. You don't have to be trapped in a box
29:41 <Nothing\> that's the irony, isn't it
29:53 <Nothing\> but i'm sure you know the sorta feeling i'm talking about
30:03 <Nothing\> anyone who's been stressed well past their capacity knows it
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53:43 <Nothing\> coppice, actually if you think about it, even looking inward at atoms, there's mostly nothingness
54:42 <Nothing\> i wonder if you took all of the mass in the universe and compressed it to the point where every particle was right up against one another, like a neutron star but with every type of particle that exists in the universe, what volume would that mass take up?
55:05 <Nothing\> if you took all of the mass in the universe, clumped it together and got rid of all of the empty space between the nucleii and electrons
56:04 <Nothing\> i mean, if a star millions of km wide can collapse into a neutron star just a few km wide, that right there gives you an idea of how little volume it would all take up, compared to the mass
56:35 <Nothing\> actually, i also can't help but wonder what the density of such an object would be. But it'd probably be pretty close to the density of neutronium
56:52 <Nothing\> ie the stuff neutron stars are made of
00:28 <Nothing\> lol now that they've opened the borders up again the border workers are going on strike
00:39 <Nothing\> border workers and customs agents at airports
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13:03 <arch> T3sl4, WOOOOT! dissipating 120W (30V @ 4A), the maximum temp on the case of the mosfet is only 63C with the fan running!
13:19 <T3sl4> yey
14:08 <arch> i did find a minor bug, with the current limiting. see, i used the Tl431 as the 2.5V reference, but when the fan turns on, the voltage drops on the 5V rail (which supplied the Tl431), and the ref voltage changes UP slightly by about 30mV, and thus the current limit goes up by about 300mA.
14:25 <arch> but that's a minor issue
14:43 <Nothing\> arch, that's so weird
15:00 <arch> no that's not weird. the TL431 does change vref dep on supply voltage
15:07 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings
15:09 <arch> not sure if ~3mA bias current is enough
15:10 <Nothing\> i was just looking at a breadboard i have with a tl431 in it thinking i really need to follow through on my intentions to learn various applications for it
15:15 <Nothing\> and how to actually use them
15:18 <Nothing\> hey Ysjoelfir
15:26 <Nothing\> how's it going, buddy?
15:50 <Nothing\> btw how on earth do you pronounce your name?
15:51 <Ysjoelfir> good.
16:18 <Nothing\> i see it as "ys" as in the game wanderers from Ys, Joel as in the name joel and fir as in the type of tree
16:24 <Nothing\> which just makes no sense
16:52 <Nothing\> but it's probably a non-english name, isn't it
17:00 <arch> it's good to see my single point grounding is keeping the voltage rail really noise free for the opamp
17:32 <Nothing\> awesome
17:49 <arch> i used a 10ohm decoupling capacitor after the smps boost stage, to supply the opamp
17:57 <arch> and single point grounding, really, is the real hero
18:08 <arch> decoupling resistor i mean
18:14 <Nothing\> you ever use an operational transconductance amplifier?
18:20 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to learn to use them
18:52 <Nothing\> i've got some lm13700 chips too
19:00 <Nothing\> for when i'm ready
19:13 <Ysjoelfir> its not even a name. its just a random conglomeration of letters
19:31 <Nothing\> but the version of circuit mod at https://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html has them simulated
19:42 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, ah that woulda been my second guess
19:54 <Nothing\> cuz it sure doesn't look... you're finnish right?
20:02 <Ysjoelfir> Nein.
20:06 <Nothing\> german
20:07 <Nothing\> dammit
20:13 <Nothing\> i can never remember who's from where
20:22 <Nothing\> it was so much easier when everyone i talked to on irc was a yank
21:00 <Nothing\> i even got into the habit of any time i typed in like, temperatures or lengths or any sort of units i'd americanize it cuz i knew everyone in the channel would be clueless with metric
21:12 <Nothing\> now i saw things in metric and the person i'm talking to is a yank
21:23 <Nothing\> so i say things in imperial then the person i'm talking to is european
25:42 <Ampera> Ys joel fir, easy enough to say
26:03 <Ampera> yis, yoel, fear
27:37 * Ampera wants to hurt anyone who calls US customary units "imperial"
28:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, in the game it's pronounced "ees"
28:11 <Nothing\> with a hard S sound
28:19 <Nothing\> like geese without the g
28:21 <coppice> Ampera: why? Now we don't need them we've handed them on to your Empire
28:45 <Ampera> not the same units
28:47 <Nothing\> i remember seeing ads for wanderers from Ys in Nintendo Power way back in the 90s
29:01 <Nothing\> i never wound up playing any of them until just a few years ago, but they're pretty good games
29:06 <Nothing\> it's an action RPG series
29:29 <coppice> Ampera: Its not our fault if you've corrupted them
29:42 <Nothing\> speaking of units
29:46 <Ampera> US customary doesn't contain definitions for most obscure imperial units, the volumetric units are completely different, and they're all defined through SI units
29:51 <Nothing\> i came across a hell of a system of units the other day
29:57 <Nothing\> it's called the FFF system
30:13 <Nothing\> furlong, farthing and fathom
30:37 <Nothing\> it's one of those humourous system of units, like smoots
31:02 <Nothing\> er no
31:03 <Nothing\> sorr
31:05 <Nothing\> y
31:12 <Nothing\> fortnight, furlong and fathom
31:18 <Nothing\> farthing is a denomination lol
32:04 <Nothing\> i couldn't explain it even if i wanted to, so if you wanna know more just look it up cuz i'm not even gonna try
32:53 <Nothing\> oh my bad, i screwed it up again
33:11 <coppice> furlong and fathom are both distances. you need a time, a mass, and a length
33:25 <Nothing\> i looked it up, it's furlong for distance, firgin for mass and fortnight for time
33:36 <Nothing\> yeah i was confusing myself there
34:04 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system
34:52 <Nothing\> lol 201.168 meters to a furlong, 40.82kg to a firkin and 1,209,600 seconds to a fortnight
35:23 <Nothing\> but it says time is usually measure in millifortnights or microfortnights
35:31 <Nothing\> which are approximately 1.2 seconds
36:23 <Nothing\> microfortnight
37:49 <Nothing\> then there's the amusing tidbit about the VMS operating system using microfortnights as one of its system variables
38:58 <Nothing\> ugh my mom's talking to my brother
39:15 <Nothing\> i guess he's getting glasses and thinks they'll be done immediately after he drops the script off or some shit
42:27 <Ysjoelfir> Lol -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgZRQpBYX3Q
47:24 <arch> can i use a BD139 or BD140 as a bjt temp sensor? i know it won't be as accurate as a 2N3904 or 3906 tho
48:38 <arch> need something i can easily thermal tape to a heatsink; TO-92 will too easily come offf
49:32 <T3sl4> why wont it be as accurate
50:05 <arch> i think i read something about different transistors having different linearity with different currents
50:19 <arch> temp dependent linearity
51:23 <arch> let me see if i have any isolated, TO-126 or TO-220 NPN or PNP trannies
52:56 <arch> you know what, i need to buy some thermal epoxy
53:15 <arch> so i can blob it right night and snug on the heatsink
53:31 <arch> tight and snug*
55:27 <coppice> TO18 and a spot welder
58:15 <arch> yes, wonderful. let me just go buy a spot welder real quick so i can put a bjt thermistor on a heatsink :D
58:26 <arch> i have thermal tape. ill just use that
58:47 <arch> the fan turns on at 70C. so even with really bad thermal transfer, say the heatsink will be at 80C when it turns on the fan
58:59 <arch> 80C for a TO-247 mosfet is nothing...
59:58 <arch> and i can also superglue the thermal tape to the heatsink, for added insurance
08:42 <arch> im still so thrilled at making this cc load. ahh, it's the simple things in life
10:26 <arch> i remember when my previous cc load, which i think i built like 4 years ago, looked like this frankenstein piece of shit: https://i.imgur.com/TFJajZP.jpg
10:58 <arch> random ass laptop heatsink, random ass parallel power resistors, no single point grounding, built on perfboard...ahh the good days of being a complete noob
11:09 <arch> but it did work pretty decently
11:29 <arch> maximum power dissipation was something like 25W before it shutdown from overheating
15:51 <Nothing\> here's an interesting book for anyone curious
15:53 <Nothing\> https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/objects/lse:peb937pev
16:01 <Nothing\> it's about street life in victorian london
16:08 <arch> unless it's about tentacle hentai, im not interested
16:51 <arch> or unless it has nude pics of T3sl4. that's also my fetish
16:53 <Nothing\> lame
16:56 <Nothing\> lol
17:14 <Nothing\> what about T3sl4 hentai?
17:24 <arch> now you're talking my language
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18:53 <Ampera> you people need jesus
19:00 <Ampera> his nudes are the best
19:48 <Nothing\> ugh i'm so sleepy
19:55 <Nothing\> think i overdid it with the edibles
22:25 <Nothing\> i need some coffee
22:25 <rust_collector> good night
22:36 <Nothing\> when my mom gets up i'm gonna get her to take me to timmy's
22:40 <Nothing\> even though it's pissing rain
25:12 <Nothing\> i want an iced cappuccino
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41:01 <Ysjoelfir> oy guys. Can I have your brains for a little brainstorming session? as you might know I started a new job last week and moved a few hundred kilometers north for that, so I would like to impress mr. boss next week with some great ideas and market research.
46:00 <rust_collector> uh, are you sure you want these brains for that?
46:16 <Ysjoelfir> yes. These brains are usually pretty creative.
47:00 * Ysjoelfir glares at K steve30 T3sl4 Ampera electrohead and probably some I just didn't see at first glance in the user list.
47:06 <Ysjoelfir> of course a rusty brain is also very welcome
47:27 <rust_collector> make anything without rgb shit on it
47:51 <T3sl4> blinding. blue. leds.
47:56 <T3sl4> they're all the rage
48:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol. I actually have a "gaming" table in the list :P
48:40 <Ysjoelfir> so.... anyone want to join and give me some ideas?
50:35 <rust_collector> an external drive enclosure for several laptop drives, or ssds. I am not sure, maybe you already make those
50:53 <rust_collector> small, with room for 4 drives or more
51:54 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what does that company do again?
52:30 <rust_collector> they try to find cardboard boxes, iIrc
53:06 <Ysjoelfir> we do actually :D at least there is one in the evaluation process. And I have some products I would like to know ideas about. Mainly, what would you think to who I could sell that, for which use case, and which accessories do I absolutely need to advertise as well.
53:44 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera: its Icybox. mainly we do storage solutions, but I am building up a office/ergonomy department. and the product I want to talk about is this one https://icybox.de/product.php?id=469
54:37 <Ampera> I don't speak proto-english
54:42 <Ampera> translationing?
54:51 <Ysjoelfir> I am already typing that for you, one sec
54:57 <rust_collector> nambla certified desk
55:31 <Ysjoelfir> its an electric table stand. 3 saveable height settings, stepless adjustment between 62 and 112 cm, 125kg load, sells without (!) tabletop for 599€ MSRP, street price is roughly 350.
56:15 <rust_collector> so, just the legs and switch box?
56:29 <Ampera> oh, standing desk thing
56:51 <Ampera> obviously a smartwatch app to adjust it
57:13 <Ampera> built in PDU, can even do that remote control too
59:20 <Ysjoelfir> yep, just the legs and electronics, rusty. importing tabletops is way to pricey to justify for any customer.
59:54 <Ysjoelfir> btw, I don't neccessarily comment any suggestion, I just write it down :)
00:29 <Ysjoelfir> erm, comment ALL suggestions I meant
00:39 <rust_collector> can it be changed, so you can manually change the height, so it goes from 80 to 130cm? maybe just a telescopic thing with a pin, or maybe just a pin in the screw drive, so you can disconnect it from the legs?
01:37 <Ysjoelfir> nope, its not adjustable besides the normal range. but it has adjustable feet for.. IIRC 2cm
02:06 <rust_collector> meh. it needs 20. but ok
02:58 <rust_collector> and I assume it does not have a manual normal range option either, so you can crank it up and down without power?
04:14 <Ysjoelfir> no. but there is a hand cranked version of it, which we don't sell yet, but I could suggest it if you have a good use case. that one would be way cheaper as well
04:44 <rust_collector> do you have a single leg version, with forklift looking pieces on the leg, for use in the back of a small desk?
05:22 <Ysjoelfir> not quite, but I have ordered a single leg version with a "cross" style foot.
05:53 <rust_collector> nah, no good reason for that, except that I like things to be usable even if the power is out
05:57 <rust_collector> ok
07:46 <rust_collector> I guess having a power strip in there makes sense
07:50 <Ysjoelfir> any ideas who would want such a desk? and any ideas about accessories?
09:47 <rust_collector> and maybe a tray or something to keep your cables and crap in place, under the desk
12:06 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I have that on the list as well. they offer an addon cable tray for the desk stands, but its pretty expensive for a folded piece of sheetmetal
15:28 <Ysjoelfir> Anyone more ideas? Otherwise I have the next thing.
15:47 <rust_collector> nah. it is a desk, lol
16:40 <Ysjoelfir> thats the hard part, exactly xD how do you sell a fancy, expensive desk :P
16:47 <Ysjoelfir> ok, next one. https://www.amazon.de/Verstellbarer-Universal-Monitorst%C3%A4nder-schwenkbaren-Schreibtisch-befestigen-Silber/dp/B00N71ZL26/
17:05 <Ysjoelfir> I don't think I have to explain what that is. we would sell such a thing for roughly 60€.
17:28 <Ysjoelfir> tbh I have no idea what use case there would be for such a combination, but maybe someone has a brilliant use case for that
23:51 <rust_collector> those are for "dual screen" with a laptop, on a cnc router, or plasma cutter table. I dunno, it seems weird
25:11 <Ysjoelfir> I agree. the standard with laptop and monitor - no problem, is great. but..... laptop and tablet? wtf?
29:27 <Ysjoelfir> ok, so we agree that this is not a thing that should exist :D
29:40 <rust_collector> yep
30:14 <rust_collector> I almost like the idea of a pole, like that, but not to mount those things
31:12 <Ysjoelfir> for?
31:28 <+electrohead> o/
31:40 <rust_collector> I have no idea, But it seems like a good mount for... not a tablet and laptop, lol
31:48 * electrohead lol's rust_collector
31:55 * Ampera kisses electrohead 
31:58 <Ampera> how are you doing?
32:19 * electrohead burns said kisses
32:21 <+electrohead> lol, hey man
32:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
32:29 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
32:31 <+electrohead> I'm doing alright, got home not too long ago
32:33 <+electrohead> you?
32:44 * electrohead transfers the burned kisses to Ysjoelfir
32:46 <+electrohead> :p
33:10 <Ampera> I am very wet and moist at the moment.
33:11 <Ysjoelfir> you might be the perfect one to say what one could use that thing for, or to whom I could sell it :D (btw, your Fritz!Box will soon be on its way, I finally got around to pack it! xD)
33:18 <+electrohead> ;o
33:21 <+electrohead> \o/
33:24 <+electrohead> how much do I owe you?
33:41 <Ampera> exactly 231.42 DM
34:57 <Ysjoelfir> I can tell you the moment I brought it to the post office^^
35:37 <+electrohead> ok :p
35:57 <rust_collector> $73
38:29 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, do you have an idea to who and for which use case I could market this product? https://www.amazon.de/Verstellbarer-Universal-Monitorst%C3%A4nder-schwenkbaren-Schreibtisch-befestigen-Silber/dp/B00N71ZL26/ Mr. Boss absolutely WANTS to have that in his catalog but I struggle to see any use case for such a thing, except from web devs who want to try if their stuff works on mobile and PCs
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41:54 * electrohead looks
42:57 <+electrohead> well, I have a dual laptop stand, one side is for my personal laptop, the other for my work laptop
43:18 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but that one is for laptop + tablet
43:18 <+electrohead> some people would love that, mainly people who develop for tablets and such
43:44 <+electrohead> also to note, that could hold a smaller screen for whatever reason
44:21 <rust_collector> do you have any wall mounted laptop stand sort of things? sort of like a tv wall mount?
45:14 <+electrohead> no I don't
45:17 <+electrohead> wel, not yet anyway
46:25 <Ysjoelfir> yep, kind of. that would be the second-last product I wanted to show :D
47:23 <Ysjoelfir> https://icybox.de/product.php?id=202
52:25 <rust_collector> that looks usable
56:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes. it is actually. and it only costs like.... what was it.... 99€?
03:58 <Some_Person> Goodwill stuff. Didn’t buy anything today. https://imgur.com/a/u26z7JM
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34:08 <arch> how goes it fellow weirdos
42:11 * T3sl4 gropes arch with his tentacles
44:12 <arch> https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/aNgNPXK/azaqGweJ_700w_0.jpg
46:30 <T3sl4> steve30 irl?
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34:33 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/qtZSNwh.gifv
38:49 <jaymax> Alright kinky weekend stuffs
52:10 * T3sl4 fondles jaymax
55:16 <jaymax> Again? Shucks. What's a guy gotta do to get a cuddle around here?
57:50 <jaymax> I mean, I'm all hookers-n-blow but sometimes I need something more than winterized rescue vehicles.
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44:58 <Halcyon> YAY
45:02 <Halcyon> Only took a whole day
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49:55 <Nothing\> my cat doesn't like it when i stick my fingers in her mouth
50:40 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
50:53 <Halcyon> Conducting experiments are you Nothing\ ?
51:18 <steve30> hi
54:12 <gremlinz> wtf
55:24 <Halcyon> gremlinz is impressed
55:24 <Halcyon> :P
02:13 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
02:20 <Halcyon> \o/
02:26 <Halcyon> I'll BRB, updating the switch firmare
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02:40 <Ampera> he loves me so much he runs away the moment I enter the channel
02:53 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ instead
03:06 <Ampera> at least you won't feck off the moment I say hi
03:12 <Ampera> probably
03:13 * jaymax looks for roaming furware
03:42 * Ampera gives jaymax a tuna noodle casserole stuffed into the taxidermied body of a dead cat, covered with a racoon-head lid.
04:12 <jaymax> That's ... rustic?
04:30 <Ampera> Just like grandma use to make.
04:37 <Ampera> Of course what was after the accident...
04:54 <jaymax> Reminds me of the Hilbilly Bears.
05:37 <jaymax> He never did get that catfish.
06:38 <Ampera> I wonder if this switch upgrade will be like his rack disassembly, and it'll be until tomorrow night that I actually get to talk with him
06:52 * jaymax orders Ampera a Rubbermaid set.
06:55 <Ampera> and tell him how much he means to me, how much I care about him, and how much his organs are worth to my guy down the street
07:08 <Ampera> jaymax, I'm not into that, steve30 might be, though.
07:56 <jaymax> Can never come back from Ed Gein dishset?
08:05 <jaymax> LOL
08:29 <jaymax> Well at least it's not full-Gein.
08:44 <Ampera> I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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09:37 <jaymax> Do...you want to know? It's a 50's-era true crime story.
10:24 <Ampera> Oh good he returned, I won't have to disappoint my guy after all.
10:36 <Halcyon> ?
10:44 <jaymax> YOURE MY BOY BLUE
10:59 <Ampera> I NEED UNPROFESSIONAL HELP
11:06 <jaymax> I NEED AN ADULT
11:09 * Halcyon slaps Ampera with a trout
11:16 <Halcyon> Did I fix it?
11:20 <Ampera> jaymax, you're shit outta luck here
11:31 <Ampera> I said unprofessional help, not unwashed help.
11:38 <Halcyon> Oh well
11:53 * Ampera polishes Halcyon down to a mirror shine.
12:03 <Ampera> There, now when people have to look at you, at least they only have to look at themselves.
12:20 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
12:29 <Halcyon> My new rack is all set up
12:40 * Ampera touches Halcyon's new rack
12:42 <Ampera> mmm, big
12:56 <Halcyon> Just re-wiring some of the servers and fixing up some of the bandaid fixes that I had in place that I'd forgotten about
13:09 <Halcyon> Like putting my main hypervisor on a 10 Gig link
13:27 <Ampera> what was your hypervisor box anways
13:30 <Ampera> er, anyways
13:32 <steve30> i pondered going to the shops later this morning, then realised its sunday
13:33 <Ampera> I forgot what you were using for that
13:37 <Halcyon> The main one is a Dell R710 I think
13:48 <Halcyon> I have a Secondary one which an IBM something something
13:48 <Ampera> ugh, you're gonna make me look this shit up?
13:49 <Ampera> :P
13:55 <Ampera> what CPUs
14:05 <Halcyon> Main is x2 X5650
14:11 <Ampera> lol
14:14 <Halcyon> Secondary is 1x X5690
14:26 <jaymax> I may go back to my x2 X5650
14:29 <Ampera> my storage server is a dual X5650
14:43 <Halcyon> Oh yeh it's by no means modern by todays standard
14:49 <Ampera> as you know my hypervisor is a quad socket top end Westmere-EX box
14:49 <Halcyon> But I have 2 of them and they were free from work
14:51 <Halcyon> So *shrug*
15:00 <Ampera> same generation, but highest spec available in 4 socket configs
15:13 <jaymax> Currently using x2 6274 and it don't seem worth the extra 40W
15:36 <Ampera> I only measure the power my servers take in fucktons
16:11 <Ampera> in which I calculate, with only very slight uncertainty, that they are presently consuming about or around one (1) fuckton of power.
16:27 <jaymax> I run solar so fucktons is valid - as in I'd fucktons more panels.
16:39 <Ampera> basically, they are taking about as much power as three of Halcyon's hypervisors
16:48 <jaymax> I'd *need...
16:49 <Ampera> We do not have solar
17:01 <Ampera> all I have is a general disregard for the value of the money which I earn.
17:15 <Halcyon> My difference is, I pay my power bill
17:42 <Ampera> you think I don't, but you don't run around 1kW of server 24/7 without paying the bill for long
17:42 <jaymax> Same - which is why i have the solar panels - and G's in internet-math-money
18:28 <Ampera> if it gets too bad, I'm probably gonna disable half the cores/CPUs, and maybe take out half the RAM
18:45 <Ampera> it currently idles at about 600W in, and I have no clue what the dual X5650 box takes
18:51 <Ampera> probably about half that
19:01 <jaymax> What the heck?
19:14 <jaymax> Much spinng rust?
19:40 <Ampera> no, just four of the literal biggest CPUs that Intel even made before Ivy Bridge
19:57 <jaymax> X5650's are def not that.
19:58 <Ampera> it only has 8 hard drives in it, and those are LFF drives too
20:07 <Ampera> I never said X5650, that's my storage server
20:09 <jaymax> 85W TDP is nothiong
20:23 <Ampera> my hypervisor is a DL570 G7
20:27 <jaymax> Oh, than I art confussed
20:46 <Ampera> E7-4870 x4
21:21 <Ampera> which are the highest SKU in the Westmere-EX lineup, unless you cound the 8870's, but the only difference is one supports quad socket and the other octo socket
21:32 <Ampera> besides that they are identically specced
21:56 <Ampera> that hypervisor has four 1200W PSUs
22:11 <Ampera> and, to my knowledge, it's capable of running off only one of those
22:15 <Ampera> for when redundant isn't redundant enough
22:43 <jaymax> Gotcha - I'm hemming and hawwing until I have reasonable time to move the RAM, RAID card, and drives from the DL385G7 to the DL380G6 - the difference is 145W vs 105W idle.
23:09 <Ampera> Full tilt that server pulls about 1kW
23:27 <Ampera> at least with an all core stress test, I'm sure if you stressed the RAM and I/O you could add some to that
23:29 <Ampera> maybe some disk too
24:33 <Ampera> I bought it to provide me plenty of room to expand in the future, but since the point is expansion, it might not be a bad idea to disable half the cores and remove half the RAM
24:39 <Ampera> since I genuinely don't even use that much
25:56 <jaymax> Once I got the RAM, I set up a 64GB RAMdisk. Cos why the heck not?
26:44 * Halcyon RAMs Ampera
27:04 * jaymax dodges the RAM
27:23 <Ampera> I run ZFS, so I sorta kinda utilize RAM disks
27:24 <jaymax> Chrysler!
27:43 <Ampera> though I don't make use of any write caching for somewhat obvious reasons
28:21 <jaymax> Yeah I've done ZFS boefre and it's not in my use-case.
28:21 <Ampera> That server does have a very nice caching RAID controller with battery backup, but I don't use it because it has no HBA mode
28:37 <Ampera> so I actually have a completely different LSI HBA in there and have disabled the onboard RAID
28:44 <Ampera> which is a shame, because that is a very nice RAID controller
29:32 <jaymax> I use that RAID controller (with a 1GB cache). My storage box uses an LSI in HBA mode - for `md`
30:35 <jaymax> The latter box is done *that* way because it's often powered off - and ZFS scrubs aren't all that useful if the system is not on to do them.
32:01 <Ampera> I'm not a huge fan of md. I've always found it far less intuitive than ZFS
32:46 <Ampera> all of my servers are also exclusively FreeBSD
33:39 <jaymax> Yeah that makes sense. I just needed something that while is a bit of a pain to set up, there's little to no maintenance beynd that.
33:59 <jaymax> Aside of the pool dying eventually.
34:34 <jaymax> Hurray for no early warning signs amirite?
39:18 * jaymax finds a bag of feathers, slab of foam, and weaved thread.
30:30 <Halcyon> Right I think that's everything up and running again
32:14 * Halcyon toots at Ampera
33:08 * electrohead steals Halcyon's rack
33:16 <Halcyon> \o/
33:19 <+electrohead> \o/
33:31 <Halcyon> How you doing?
33:40 <+electrohead> I'm good, was playing on the xbox for a bit
33:43 <+electrohead> You?
33:59 <Halcyon> Nice
34:19 <Halcyon> Just finished the rack, got to tidy up some of the patch cabling but it's mostly all done
35:31 <+electrohead> Oh nice
35:38 <+electrohead> How long in total did it take?
35:42 <Halcyon> FUCKING AGES!
35:50 <Halcyon> Probably a good solid 12 hours of work
36:02 <Halcyon> I just sent you some pics
36:08 <+electrohead> Yeah I got them :)
36:15 <+electrohead> You need to make shorter patch cables :P
36:40 <Halcyon> Yeh those at 50cm ones, the shortest I had
36:45 <Halcyon> I'll have to order some 10 and 20cm ones
36:51 <+electrohead> Dude just make your own
36:55 <Halcyon> Fuck that shit
37:02 <Halcyon> I used to do that crap when I was a teenager
37:03 <+electrohead> Buy the connectors, a decent sized roll, and crimpers
37:05 <Halcyon> I hate it
37:07 <Halcyon> Yeh nah
37:15 <+electrohead> I'd do it for you, if I was there :P
37:26 <Halcyon> Do them for me and ship them over :P
37:55 <+electrohead> Hrmm
38:00 <+electrohead> Get me the sizes
38:07 <Halcyon> I'm kiddin
38:08 <Halcyon> g
38:16 <Halcyon> It's easier just to buy a box of 50
38:18 <+electrohead> I need a new roll of ethernet cable, though
38:21 <+electrohead> :p
38:32 <+electrohead> You're a goof, you can save money by making your own
38:45 <Halcyon> Hardly
38:55 <Halcyon> For the sake of a few dollars, it's not worth the effort
39:24 <+electrohead> :/
39:45 <+electrohead> I see how it is, lol
41:52 <Halcyon> But yeh, what an ordeal that was. Even with all the panels and doors off, that thing took 3 of us to move and even barely.
42:07 <Halcyon> It's staying with the house if I ever sell
42:10 <+electrohead> Holy shit
53:48 <Halcyon> I am so tired
54:03 <Halcyon> electrohead, want to watch that movie? Or something else?
00:21 <+electrohead> I'm going to bed pretty soon, mate
00:27 <Halcyon> All good
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45:26 <Ysjoelfir> mornings electrohead and Halcyon! and whoever is also awake at this time
45:39 <Halcyon> Hello Ysjoelfir
45:47 <Halcyon> How are you good sir?
45:49 * Ysjoelfir cuddles Halcyon
47:24 <Ysjoelfir> I am.... dunno, I can't realy decide :D I enjoy being up here a lot, people are just su much more friendly, I love the weather much more.... so....
47:50 <Ysjoelfir> But also I still feel a bit overwhelmed from the new work and of course I have to miss the misses, so.... :D
48:15 <steve30> i might go for a walk up to the ATM
49:19 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, that would be nice. can you bring me some money as well?
56:45 <Halcyon> ATM? I haven't used one of those for years
03:44 <Ysjoelfir> same. but I need money
03:49 <Ysjoelfir> its not cheap here
13:34 <Halcyon> I need to make baked ziti, it looks delicious
16:15 * Halcyon throws some Cadbury milk chocolate at steve30 
16:34 <steve30> mmm
21:51 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, I prepared a goodies box for the electrohead :D I should make one for you as well
22:04 <Halcyon> I will never say no to food
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22:21 <Halcyon> What did you put in electrohead's box? Or is that a secret?
22:41 <Ysjoelfir> sadly we don't have much special savory snacks in germanistan, but some interesting sweets.
23:01 <Halcyon> Bollock! You have all the kraut and such
23:05 <Halcyon> *Bollocks
23:13 <Halcyon> And delicious spreads
23:16 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, I can roughly say you. some licquorice, some Haribo stuff, a router, some cake.....
23:29 <Ysjoelfir> well, yes, but you can get that stuff all over the world :D
23:45 <Halcyon> Oooh I like Liquorice
23:54 <Ysjoelfir> or it doesn't transport good in a uncooled box
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> otherwise I would have putt a Mettigel in there
24:07 <Ysjoelfir> -t
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24:13 <Halcyon> As long as it's not that salty stuff. Even as a Finn I hate Salmiak-style liquorice
24:14 <Ysjoelfir> like, put, not putt
24:30 <Ysjoelfir> xD I like more or less all licquorice.
24:33 <Halcyon> What's a Mattigel?
24:49 <Ysjoelfir> in fact, I ate one of the bags of licquorice I wanted to send him.
24:55 <Halcyon> Hahaha
24:59 <Halcyon> I did the same with the jerky
25:06 <Halcyon> I must send you a box some time too.
26:06 <Ysjoelfir> a Mettigel is a pile of Mett, with some saltsticks (you know those, right? the baked bread sticks with salt crystals?) stuck into it to make it look like an Igel (= Hedgehog)
26:25 <Halcyon> I know the rest, but what is Mett?
26:44 <Ysjoelfir> https://cdn.kochmeister.com/bilder/rezepte/big/rezeptbild_37478.jpg
27:08 <Halcyon> That actually looks tasty
27:12 <Ysjoelfir> minced meat. simmilar to Tartar
27:17 <Halcyon> Oh it's raw
27:44 <Ysjoelfir> yes
27:54 <Ysjoelfir> its a spread for your breadroll
28:06 <Ysjoelfir> you usually top it with raw onions and some freshly ground black pepper
28:10 <Halcyon> Raw meats is something I'll ever only really eat in restaurants. I don't trust myself :P
28:19 <Ysjoelfir> XD
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29:24 <Ysjoelfir> you get it almost everywhere here. go to any store and you can buy mett prepackaged. ITs dlicious
29:39 <Halcyon> :)
29:42 <Halcyon> I'd try it
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30:23 <Ysjoelfir> especially if you get Jägermett, which is pretty heavily seasoned with pepper, paprika (not Salami, the bellpepper thing), and garlic
30:45 <Halcyon> Yum
31:12 <Ysjoelfir> Damn, its so irritating typing on this notebook with germany keyboard layout. I am so used to my british keyboard at home :D I should get one for the notebook as well... I constantly swap z and y
31:50 <Halcyon> Hehe
31:58 <Ysjoelfir> that was a lot of I-related sentences in a row. hm. seems like someone is getting a bit egoistic :D
32:31 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj47Snwi4yA
32:37 <Halcyon> This guy does some great videos
34:14 * Ysjoelfir watches that
34:39 <Kuschelpony> good morning
34:47 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings Kuschelpony
34:48 <Halcyon> Hey Kuschelpony
35:03 <Kuschelpony> Hello Hello
35:04 <Ysjoelfir> oh great, mrs. fiancee just watched a video about a wombat. now she wants one.
35:10 <Kuschelpony> lol
35:12 <Halcyon> Hahahah
35:16 <Halcyon> They poop cubes
35:25 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, can you please send one over to her?
36:12 <Halcyon> :P
38:48 <Kuschelpony> i hope i did not catch a major cold yesterday from beeing out two hours in that endless rain, in that suit tha was soaking up the water, but the day was amazing
39:07 <Kuschelpony> just drank the first liter hot tea today
41:22 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine that being a bit heavy after a while o.o
41:29 <Ysjoelfir> and: preparing tea as well
41:39 <Kuschelpony> it was a very thin fabric
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40:50 <steve30> My graphics card crashed while I was trying to upload photos to flickr
48:52 <Halcyon> Stupid card
50:26 <steve30> https://flickr.com/photos/36651585@N04/51365172264/in/dateposted-public/
53:35 <Halcyon> Aw cute
53:46 <Halcyon> Did you make that Steve?
55:47 <steve30> nope
55:51 <steve30> it was on top of a postbox
56:37 <Halcyon> It looks very clean and fresh
57:57 <steve30> https://flickr.com/photos/36651585@N04/51363682077/in/dateposted-public/
58:38 <Halcyon> I like your post boxes. They look solid.
59:29 <Halcyon> You could probably drive a car into it and the car would come out second beat
59:31 <Halcyon> *best
00:11 <steve30> yup, a car crashed into our local postbox back in 2008. Both the car and the postbox suffered damage
00:35 <steve30> well, i think the postbox was OK, but just got pushed over so ended up at an angle
01:31 <Halcyon> We have a few like that but most of ours are like this: https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/image/0020/397100/Aus-post-1.jpg
01:51 <Halcyon> Still sturdy, but probably not as much
02:25 <steve30> I meant to go and look at this on Friday but forgot
02:25 <steve30> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Manchester_bombing_memorial_postbox
02:39 <steve30> Yours look boring
02:47 <Halcyon> Yep
03:01 <Halcyon> But they are designed for parcels as well, not just letters
03:17 <Halcyon> You pull the handle and it opens right up
05:40 <steve30> We have some more modern postboxes which tend to be located near industial estates which were designed for franked mail only, but they have now been opened up to parcels as well
16:01 <steve30> i think i'll have a beer
16:15 <Halcyon> DO it
16:26 <Halcyon> I'm watching Ringway Manchester
28:53 * steve30 beers
28:58 <steve30> I've also put some fish and chips in the oven
28:59 * Halcyon fondles
29:03 <Halcyon> Oh yum,
29:13 <Halcyon> I just had leftovers
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10:07 <hsn> leftovers .. yummm
18:16 <DogWomble> is that just a fancy term for sloppy seconds?
18:40 <Halcyon> steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLBC82e3Sw
20:32 <DogWomble> after that video - well i'm apparently the one with a NZ sounding accent .... "I'll have one fush and chups pluise"
20:42 <Halcyon> :P
20:43 <Halcyon> True
36:13 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg21hVxnfYI
36:17 <Halcyon> So simple but looks delicious
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