// #eevblog — 2021-08-19
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03:05:29 <Ampera> https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/additional-information-regarding-2021-cyberattack-investigation
03:05:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - T‑Mobile Shares Additional Information Regarding Ongoing Cyberattack Investigation | T‑Mobile Newsroom
03:05:30 <Ampera> big ouch
03:08:29 <Kuschelpony> yes
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03:21:00 <K> that looks like quite an ouchie
03:55:18 <rust_collector> Lemon_ !!
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04:10:40 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBHTWLoXCW0
04:10:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Contractor Shows Weapons Left Behind in Kabul and What It's Like On The Ground
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06:10:25 <arch> has anyone here been to a planetarium?
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06:11:21 <arch> "Immediately offering 2 years of free identity protection services with McAfee’s ID Theft Protection Service." might as well offer some snake oil
06:26:46 <DHess_US> I have
06:27:39 <DHess_US> I visited here in about 1986, https://griffithobservatory.org/about/observatory-history/renovation-and-expansion/planetarium/
06:27:41 <EEVBot> [Title] - Planetarium | Griffith Observatory - Southern California’s gateway to the cosmos!
06:32:31 <arch> DHess_US, i want to go to the NYC museum of natural history's one. how is the experience? is it realistic?
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07:01:28 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/877656488833855589/20210818_162541.jpg
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07:17:44 <hsn> Ampera: that looks like my life
07:18:20 <Ampera> I just fixed the washing machine
07:18:33 <Ampera> my dad messaged me last night saying that it wasn't draining and showing an error code
07:18:50 <Ampera> and then proceeded to have a borderline panic attack over it, fully convinced he needed to buy a new one
07:19:16 <Ampera> that rock was stuck inside the impeller housing of the pump, it had grown inside of there, and after a particularly aggressive spin cycle, fell out
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07:19:54 <hsn> Ampera: i usually remove the LCD wires to get rid of error codes
07:20:36 <hsn> Thats how i fix my car dashboard error signs .. check engine light etc etc
07:22:09 <hsn> Looks like my life .. stuck and aggressively spining
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08:11:18 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
08:11:23 * Ampera hugs electrohead
08:11:27 * Ampera hugs hugs
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08:26:42 <arch> is 65% inductor ripple alright for a SEPIC?
08:27:12 <arch> i've seen some designs that have pretty high inductor ripple current
08:27:22 <arch> instead of the usual 20-40%
08:28:28 <electrohead> it's going, redesigning my living room a bit
08:42:43 <T3sl4> doesn't matter that it's sepic
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08:48:05 <DHess_US> arch, I'm not sure what you mean by realistic but it is like being outside while you are inside.
08:48:21 <DHess_US> They use digital projectors now.
08:49:32 <DHess_US> You won't regret going, but I would say that about the NY Natural History Museum anyway.
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09:19:23 <Halcyon> Yooo
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09:33:47 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/NbwEMcK.jpeg
09:34:06 <Halcyon> Heheh
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10:23:49 <steve30> hi
10:29:19 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
10:37:51 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:37:54 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:37:56 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:37:58 * Ampera punches Halcyon
10:38:03 <Halcyon> :D
10:38:36 <Ampera> how are you are Halcyon
10:39:04 <Halcyon> I'm doing OK, how are you?
10:39:24 <Ampera> I found a rock.
10:39:33 <Halcyon> OK ?
10:39:44 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/877656488833855589/20210818_162541.jpg
10:39:46 <Ampera> this is the rock
10:39:59 <Halcyon> Right...
10:40:23 <Ampera> This rock made my dad freak the fuck out
10:40:35 <Ampera> he was afraid it was going to cost him hundreds upon hundreds
10:40:56 <Halcyon> Why?
10:41:11 <Ampera> I found this rock jammed inside the impeller housing of the drainage pump of our washing machine
10:41:24 <Ampera> it was preventing the pump from running, which prevented the washing machine from draining
10:41:25 <Halcyon> That doesn't belong there
10:41:42 <Ampera> It was larger than the inlet or the outlet, so I had to disassemble the pump to remove it
10:41:48 <Ampera> luckily that was quite easy to do
10:42:36 <T3sl4> it really rocked his world
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10:46:04 <steve30> there's a helicopter flying around outside
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11:05:27 <steve30> should i go to tesco later this morning?
11:05:42 <Halcyon> Sure :)
11:25:25 <Halcyon> Woooo generating 6.4 kW at the moment
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11:47:36 <DHess_US> Solar panels decrease the Earth albedo causing global warming.
11:52:53 <Halcyon> *shrug*
11:53:06 <Halcyon> Also, what warming? It's farken colder than usual here and I hate it.
11:53:56 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to the shops
11:54:05 <Halcyon> steve30, I'll bring you back something nice.
11:54:51 <steve30> :)
12:00:13 <T3sl4> nah, they absorb sunlight, shortening the sun's lifetime
12:10:17 <DHess_US> And landing on the moon spoils its ecology.
12:10:34 <DHess_US> Obscure?
13:10:42 <Halcyon> T3sl4, I'll have to put some back then?
13:13:29 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
13:17:59 * steve30 wonders what steve30-treats Halcyon brought
13:27:34 <Halcyon> A big jar of olives
13:29:12 <steve30> eww
13:31:34 <Halcyon> I also bough chicken thighs, olive oil, red cabbage, silverbeet, apples, lettuce and some Kombucha cola.
13:32:00 <steve30> mmm, chicken
13:32:49 <Halcyon> I'm going to marinade them in honey, soy sauce, a little bit of sriracha and kecap manis when oven roast them so they are all sticky and nom.
13:32:57 <Halcyon> *then
13:34:50 <T3sl4> green or black olives?
13:35:45 <Halcyon> Kalamata
13:36:15 <+electrohead> o/
13:36:21 <Halcyon> Yooo
13:36:24 <+electrohead> Yo man
13:36:36 <+electrohead> I was down for a bit, had everything disconnected in the living room
13:36:40 <+electrohead> reconfigure, *again*
13:36:42 <+electrohead> >.<
13:36:44 <Halcyon> I've been getting smashed today, had to actually do some work
13:36:53 <Halcyon> Ahhh how's the new desk looking?
13:39:22 <+electrohead> Good, as of now
13:39:24 <+electrohead> lol
13:41:07 <steve30> I might not bother with tesco and just go back to bed
13:41:14 * steve30 hasn't slept very well lately
13:43:52 <DHess_US> red cabbage is the remains of the 1938 Martian invasion.
13:45:43 <Halcyon> Pics electrohead ?
13:45:54 <Halcyon> You are such a housecat steve30
13:47:19 * steve30 climbs onto Halcyon
13:48:00 <Halcyon> Stupid kittles
13:48:26 <steve30> *purr*
13:58:15 * steve30 snuggles up with Halcyon
14:15:57 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/MrRZZrf.jpg
14:16:38 <steve30> kitty :)
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14:22:22 <+electrohead> Kitty!
14:23:08 * T3sl4 pets electrohead
14:24:51 * electrohead growls
15:48:14 <hsn> T3sl4 pet me
15:48:29 * T3sl4 throws a kitten at hsn
15:48:56 * hsn Meows
15:49:52 <T3sl4> :3
15:50:22 * steve30 meows at T3sl4
15:50:27 <hsn> I ve this..
15:50:31 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
15:52:09 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/iuSmrCVovcZdPVy46
15:52:44 <hsn> T3sl4: so i want to .. play with control stuff with above pic
15:53:06 <hsn> Angle with the pot .. and pwm to the dc motor
15:53:19 * T3sl4 skewers hsn with the pins of an arduino board
15:53:37 <hsn> Should i also measure motor emf for motor speed
15:53:54 <hsn> Or i should take it as logical .. pwm = speed allready
15:53:57 <hsn> For modeling
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15:59:17 <hsn> T3sl4: i stole it from a course of control they have this circuit https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6YarEGkBCnDAoHh6
15:59:56 <hsn> Is vpwm and vmotor imprtant ? For what?
16:00:41 <T3sl4> probably?
16:01:22 <hsn> Ok hmm
16:02:24 <hsn> And ... Ive only studied ziggler method which only play with values until somthing works with less oscillating and fast response ..
16:03:14 <hsn> Thinking if i can black box this propeller and extract the system / plant transfer function .. is it possible? .. they say u ve to apply unit step and measure the response i guess?
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16:06:05 <hsn> Apply 0 pwm .. for somtime .. suddenly apply 50% pwm open loop thingy .. and plot the angle with time .. hmmm that gives time domain response .. which is convoluted tf with unit step in time domain ..
16:06:48 <hsn> Now the magic is to take this response and "unconvolute" it to get the damn tf?
16:10:01 <hsn> The answer is .. prolly xD
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16:50:12 <hsn> https://youtube.com/shorts/FKCzwHSjeNU?feature=share
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17:46:36 <K> hello crinkle-wraps
17:46:37 <EEVBot> Hello, K!
17:49:02 <Zsjoelfir> Moin Bubblewrap!
17:51:09 <K> keep your hands off me!
17:52:32 <T3sl4> cease your cellophanity!
18:19:46 * Zsjoelfir wraps T3sl4 to K with some industry grade cellophane
18:20:06 <T3sl4> D:
18:33:52 <Zsjoelfir> K, can you give ma a phone number? DHL wants to have that.
18:36:11 <Zsjoelfir> Not sure if that pinged you with the comma after the K, so just to be sure: K
18:36:43 <K> dhl?
18:37:25 <Zsjoelfir> yep
18:37:40 <K> gonna send me a donkey?
18:37:56 <Zsjoelfir> close
18:38:24 <Zsjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C6KJOUKGyGSrhOqNvXUCjAnBYFZbRqPk/view?usp=sharing
18:38:26 <EEVBot> [Title] - 302 Moved
18:38:26 <Zsjoelfir> that thing
18:43:47 <K> regular post would take it?
18:43:52 <K> would not
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19:30:20 <Zsjoelfir> K - german post? nope, sadly not, they don't do international goods, only letters. and if I just stuff it into a letter envelope, which would fit, there is a chance of it never arriving if they see it while scanning. Been there, done that :/
19:30:33 <Zsjoelfir> but DHL is only like 6 euro, so thats fine
19:30:38 <K> ah ok
19:30:56 <K> chances are it will get handled by our post anyway
19:31:03 <Zsjoelfir> probably
19:31:31 <Zsjoelfir> It will be in an envelope anyways, so it'll also fit into your letterbox
19:31:44 <K> okay
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19:44:08 <Halcyon> I learned something about our road tunnels today: https://www.autoblog.com/2013/05/15/clever-water-stop-sign-prevents-tunnel-crashes-in-australia/
19:44:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Clever water stop sign prevents tunnel crashes in Australia
19:44:23 <Halcyon> They have a water curtain and projection if an overheight vehicle triggers the sensors
19:46:26 <K> cheaper than fixing the tunnel after some idiot crashes into it
19:46:37 <Halcyon> So simple but so effective
19:47:05 <Halcyon> But there are plenty of flashing signs and warnings well before you even get to the tunnels, how someone doesn't notice those as beyond me.
19:47:13 <Halcyon> It should be immediate loss of licence.
19:48:25 <K> and a spanking
19:48:35 <K> public
19:49:07 <Zsjoelfir> reminds me of the 11'8 bridge
19:50:10 <Halcyon> Yepo
19:56:25 <Halcyon> I enjoy those videos
19:56:27 * T3sl4 sips chamomile
19:56:39 <Halcyon> How... un-T3sl4-like
19:57:14 <T3sl4> i tea from time to time
19:57:34 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Finally have a new video coming at midnight tonight. https://t.co/KjIWaBwcvN
19:57:49 <DogWomble> Well just don't be like those marxists who drink from teabags becasue proper tea is theft
19:58:59 <coppice> Proper tea? leaf it alone.
19:59:10 <T3sl4> erm, proudhon?
20:00:11 <T3sl4> though on that note, this chamomile is locally and renewably grown
20:00:15 <coppice> I use teabags, because I demand extra wasteful packaging with my goods
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20:00:27 <T3sl4> at least, i haven't seen any shortage of the damn weed, no matter how much of it i pick
20:00:57 <coppice> chamomile lawns are very tough
20:01:00 <T3sl4> i should get a proper strainer to use it, but eh, i'm just freeballing for now
20:01:06 <Zsjoelfir> I went home early yesterday at roughly 11 because I had realy bad vertigo. Just before that I wanted to enjoy a nice black tea, so I started brewing that. When I came back to work today I noticed that I have accidentally created tea sirup over night.
20:01:13 <Zsjoelfir> I am not sure if I should drink that though
20:01:19 <Halcyon> Game of Cards Against Humanity anyone?
20:01:24 <Halcyon> kiska, ?
20:01:31 <DogWomble> Anyone for a bit of cards against humanity action?
20:01:39 <T3sl4> coppice: chad chamomile, where most plants whine and complain about tough soil, it just goes, mmm gravel? yes please, car traffic? harder daddy
20:01:45 <hsn> hrmm
20:01:53 <hsn> im hmmmming ,, im existing
20:02:03 <T3sl4> hsn doesn't think, therefore he isn't
20:02:09 <DogWomble> you hmmm therefore you aremmmm?
20:02:21 <hsn> T3sl4, im overthinker
20:02:32 <hsn> in such a way that others cant see me thinking
20:02:48 <DogWomble> T3sl4, CAH?
20:02:48 <coppice> T3sl4: seriously, if you make a lawn from chamomile it grows like crazy and tolerates mowing and foot traffic like grass
20:02:50 <T3sl4> if hsn thinks in a forest and no one is around to see, did it really happen?
20:02:54 <T3sl4> sure DogWomble
20:03:09 <hsn> T3sl4, its a desert
20:03:18 <Halcyon> I don'
20:03:27 <DogWomble> T3sl4, want to join us in discord so we can set it up? https://discord.gg/vddnVRvu3Z
20:03:28 <Halcyon> I don't know if Ampera or electrohead are awake yet?
20:03:39 <T3sl4> coppice: can't say i've seen it done, but it sure would be tough, plus the aroma when mowing it, just amazing
20:04:00 <Ampera> good morning
20:04:04 <DogWomble> hi ampera
20:04:24 <coppice> T3sl4: you find them in fancy country house gardens in the UK.
20:04:25 <T3sl4> bad morning
20:04:25 <Ampera> hi ampera
20:06:21 <T3sl4> think i can bring in another friend too
20:06:38 <DogWomble> sounds good T3sl4
20:07:13 <T3sl4> oh yeah lemme boot up discord, there we go
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20:21:15 <hsn> ah that thing i didnt open in months
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20:25:50 <Zsjoelfir> EEVBot time electrohead
20:25:50 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/08/19 06:25:50 where electrohead resides.
20:26:11 <Zsjoelfir> electrohead, get up you lazy... something :P
20:28:10 <hsn> why all bots are promoting porn ? https://snipboard.io/1ipCBO.jpg
20:35:20 <Zsjoelfir> Because the internet is for porn.
20:35:45 <DHess_US> Truth
21:26:09 <T3sl4> wow, i wasn't expecting to see two Del the Funky Homosapien references in one week, but there it is
21:29:26 <K> who knows what else could happen
21:50:03 <coppice> Someone from the future
21:51:39 <K> i'd rather he kept his mouth shut
21:52:05 <K> she/her it/its
21:57:08 <Zsjoelfir> theys
21:57:12 <Zsjoelfir> the things
21:57:17 <Zsjoelfir> all the things
22:34:27 <Ampera> I just bought an impact screwdriver
22:34:39 <Zsjoelfir> manual or electric?
22:34:51 <Ampera> manual
22:35:25 <Ampera> I'm hoping it makes taking out seized screws easier/possible
22:35:44 <K> where do you have siezed screws?
22:36:05 <Ampera> I had some when I was taking apart the washing machine. Of course I was taking it apart the wrong way, but I still would like to have a solution for that
22:39:32 <K> oh.
22:40:12 <Ampera> my mechanics had one, I thought it was cool, and I managed to find one for 20 bucks
22:40:26 <Ampera> probably not gonna be brilliant quality, but how many times will I have to use it :P
22:41:55 <K> pics?
22:42:13 <Ampera> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NPPATS
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22:43:24 <K> okay
22:43:40 <K> prolly would need to stock up on bits
22:43:56 <Zsjoelfir> tell me than how it worked out, I was considering getting one of those as well
22:44:00 <Ampera> I have a big fat bit kit that will probably do
22:44:05 <Ampera> not sure if they're the right size, if not, oh well
22:44:24 <Ampera> lol, I bought to have, who knows if it's a year or two until I actually use the damn thing :P
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23:24:07 <T3sl4> when arch gets back: http://www.righto.com/2021/08/reverse-engineering-vintage-power.html
23:24:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Reverse-engineering a vintage power supply chip from die photos
23:26:58 * electrohead yawns and pokes Zsjoelfir
23:27:30 * Ampera yawns and hugs electrohead
23:27:33 <Ampera> how are you doing sparkyguy
23:27:57 <Zsjoelfir> oy, electrohead!
23:28:00 <+electrohead> being tired, you?
23:28:20 <K> Ampera is getting ready to screw
23:28:24 <Zsjoelfir> mind sending me your mobile number? I need that for your router.
23:28:27 <Zsjoelfir> indeed he is xD
23:28:49 <Ampera> sure, 518 523 0142
23:30:19 <+electrohead> lol
23:30:26 <+electrohead> oy, matey!
23:31:09 <Zsjoelfir> thanks
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23:38:40 <Nothing\> ahoy ahoy
23:38:46 <Nothing\> anyone alive?
23:38:57 <Nothing\> let's try this
23:38:58 <Ampera> I'm dead thanks
23:39:04 <Nothing\> oh goody
23:39:08 <Nothing\> pseudolife
23:39:10 <Ampera> glad my death is amusing to you
23:39:17 <Nothing\> how's it going, Ampera?
23:39:23 * Nothing\ gives Ampera a big hug <3
23:39:29 <Ampera> I am tired
23:39:31 <Ampera> time for caffeine
23:39:34 <Nothing\> ditto
23:39:41 <Nothing\> i don't usually tolerate caffeine
23:40:00 <Nothing\> but i got myself an iced cappuccino from timmy's while i got my script
23:40:07 <Nothing\> (tim hortons)
23:40:19 <Nothing\> despite the name they taste nothing like cappuccino
23:41:09 <Nothing\> it's more like a... i dunno how to describe it. sorta like a mix of caramel flavoring, chocolate flavoring and coffee flavoring mixed into something like a slushy
23:41:47 <Ampera> I can't drink coffee, it makes me incredibly nauseous later in the day
23:42:00 <Nothing\> i just get really anxious
23:42:32 <Nothing\> i have generalized anxiety disorder as it is, so caffeine exacerbates it, and without a tolerance as little as half a can of soda can be enough to trigger my anxiety
23:42:57 <Nothing\> even if i don't have enough caffeine to cause noticable effects, i'll still psych myself into thinking i'm feeling it, which spirals into anxiety
23:43:33 <Nothing\> cuz my subconscious mind is like "hmm i'm shakey, i usually get shakey when i'm anxious so i must be anxious. Commence anxiety attack"
23:44:23 <Nothing\> but even then a half a cup of coffee is enough to produce noticable effects
23:44:38 <Nothing\> it doesn't help when tim hortons gives you friggin 24oz cups for a medium
23:45:02 <Nothing\> probably not 24oz but more than a person like me needs
23:45:17 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/877656488833855589/20210818_162541.jpg
23:45:21 <Ampera> I found a rock.
23:45:44 <Nothing\> what i don't get is how these "energy drinks" can get away with having like 400mg of caffeine per can
23:45:51 <K> where did you find it?
23:46:04 <Ampera> inside the impeller housing of the drainage pump to our washing machine
23:46:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, cavitation destruction?
23:46:27 <Ampera> no
23:46:36 <Nothing\> what's the failure mode do you think?
23:46:40 <Ampera> there was no failure
23:46:45 <Nothing\> or is that just a lot of lime scale
23:46:49 <Ampera> ^
23:46:53 <Nothing\> wow
23:46:59 <Nothing\> nevermind CLR
23:47:01 <Nothing\> you need a chisel
23:47:02 <Ampera> it was growing inside the pump for the last 10 years, and finally broke off, jamming the impeller
23:47:08 <Nothing\> oh wow
23:47:23 <Ampera> I know it grew inside the pump because it was larger than the inlet or outlet
23:47:27 <Ampera> and I had to disassemble the pump to remove it
23:47:36 <Ampera> was all very easy, that pump was meant to be taken apart
23:47:55 <Ampera> I made it more complicated than it needed to be because I had no idea how to get to it
23:48:04 <Nothing\> doesn't soft water prevent lime scale build up?
23:48:07 <Ampera> but once I got access, it was a simple matter
23:48:14 <Ampera> yes, but we have reasonably hard water
23:48:17 <Nothing\> or is that just down to how soap feels with soft vs hot water
23:48:21 <Nothing\> er hard
23:48:34 <Ampera> so hard to the point where that's not all limescale, it's got bits of iron and such in it
23:48:39 <Ampera> it really is a rock
23:48:47 <Ampera> I couldn't even break it apart with pliers when I tried to pull it out
23:48:54 <Ampera> (this before I took the whole thing apart)
23:48:59 <Nothing\> cuz i heard the main reason for switching to soft water is because soap leaves a sort of film that feels uncomfortable with hard water and somehow softwater prevents this
23:49:14 <Nothing\> maybe the extra ions attach to any stray surfactant molecules
23:49:32 <Nothing\> jeez man
23:49:38 <Nothing\> so what's your plan B?
23:49:56 <Nothing\> honestly what i'd try is soaking it CLR for a day or so and then try mechanical force
23:50:20 <Ampera> I have no plan B because plan A worked
23:50:22 <Nothing\> maybe the CLR will help loosen it and perhaps even penetrate into it if it's porous on some level (micro/macroscopic)
23:50:26 <Ampera> obviously that rock is not in that washing machine
23:50:28 <Nothing\> oh there ya go
23:50:30 <Ampera> it works fine now
23:50:36 <Nothing\> actually i was just thinking vinegar woulda worked too
23:50:36 <K> well, taking washimg machine apart every 10 years seems reasonable plan
23:50:41 <Nothing\> since lime's basic
23:50:55 <Ampera> K, it's a good washing machine, very simple parts, I'm sure I could replace anything on there that wasn't control circuitry
23:51:23 <K> yeah, unless the heater gets mangled horribly, everything should be easily fixed
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23:51:26 <Ampera> Nothing\, that was the first thing that was tried, it was sitting overnight in sewer water and vinegar
23:51:28 <Nothing\> we just got a new washer and drier cuz we moved from an apartment to a townhouse
23:51:33 <Ampera> K, there is no heater
23:51:33 <Nothing\> and thank goodness for that, too
23:51:47 <Ampera> we never use hot water anyways, but if we do we use central hot water
23:51:57 <Nothing\> in the apartment building, people would always wash literally soiled clothing
23:52:08 <Nothing\> and you'd get somebody else's shit all over your clothes
23:52:08 <Ampera> it's just a motor, a pump, some solenoids, and a control board
23:52:23 <Nothing\> or some people would wash shit with gasoline or diesel
23:54:02 <Nothing\> i saw this video last night with this gear train that had a 1:1 googol gear ratio
23:54:24 <Nothing\> it said it would take more energy than exists in the universe to turn the final gear one full turn
23:55:21 <Nothing\> made me wonder how much force would be required to turn the final gear by force instead of the first gear
23:55:30 <K> ah ok
23:56:42 <Ampera> In other news I'm writing something in php for the first time
23:56:44 <Ampera> which is neat
23:57:32 <K> modern php is quite nice
23:57:52 <+electrohead> is Ampera really saying that he likes something for a change?
23:57:54 <Nothing\> that reminds me
23:57:55 <Ampera> It's not bad, my primary complaint is there are no provisions for multithreading
23:57:57 <K> you can ask me if any questions arrise
23:58:01 <Nothing\> you know a canadian invented Java?
23:58:07 <Ampera> Nothing\, is that why it sucks?
23:58:08 <Nothing\> i didn't know that
23:58:12 <K> the php model is shared-nothing
23:58:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly i never liked it myself
23:58:21 <K> it is a good thing for web stuff
23:58:34 <Ampera> No I understand why it doesn't have (usable) multithreading
23:58:37 <Nothing\> but i think that's because i could never get the compiler or whatever, the dev environment, working properly
23:58:46 <Nothing\> but this was like 10 years ago
23:58:51 <Ampera> but it makes its use as a normal scripting language a bit more annoying
23:58:58 <Nothing\> no not javascript
23:59:05 <Nothing\> well i guess java's a scripting language too
23:59:09 <Nothing\> or is it?
23:59:14 <Ampera> since I'm actually not doing web with it, I'm writing a backup script
23:59:15 <Nothing\> yeah i guess it is
23:59:21 <Nothing\> cuz it's multiplatform
23:59:22 <K> ive used php for shell scripting with good success
23:59:29 <Nothing\> so as long as you have the interpretter, it works
23:59:39 <Ampera> Aye, but it's not like bash where multithreading is innate to its very design
23:59:46 <Nothing\> k: you ever try powershell?
23:59:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, is it in BASH now?
23:59:57 <Ampera> even if it's fire and forget multithreading, though I suppose PHP could do that with exec
23:59:59 <Nothing\> or was it always?
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