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19:07 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGvuLVjwQ8c
19:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Mystery Beneath HD ( Best Documentaries 2018)
35:58 <electrohead> o/
43:18 <Nothing\> yay
43:27 <Nothing\> i finally got a script for physio for my damn shoulder
43:33 <Nothing\> and a proper diagnosis
43:39 <Nothing\> torn rotator cuff
43:43 <Nothing\> which is what i figured
43:46 <Nothing\> also heya electrohead
44:04 <electrohead> hey man
44:07 <Nothing\> doc also said i need an ultrasound to determine if it's a full tear or not
44:15 <Nothing\> cuz if it's a full tear i'll need surgery
44:16 <Nothing\> yay
44:24 <Nothing\> otherwise i'm just good with physio
45:02 <Nothing\> i'm glad my methadone doctor was nice enough to look at it for me and write me a script for physio. He works in pain management in another practice so he's perfect to go to for this sorta thing
45:22 <Nothing\> my family doctor's so fucking cowardly, he won't even come into the office
45:32 <Nothing\> not for ANYTHING AT ALL
45:40 <Nothing\> wouldn't even look at a growth my mom has
45:46 <Nothing\> or a suspicious mole on my leg
46:23 <Nothing\> i'd be interested to see how this change in the way doctors see and treat patients since covid has affected patient mortality
48:02 <Nothing\> now if only he could fix my retarded colon
48:31 <Nothing\> speaking of which, i stubbed my anus on the corner of a table the other day
48:35 <Nothing\> man did that suck
48:58 <Nothing\> went to bend over to pick something up, all of a sudden it's like i'm being fucked by a rhino
49:52 <Nothing\> lol you guys ever do that joke in school? Where you ask somebody if they've ever been fucked by a rhino, then get behind them and knee them in the anus over and over again while they try to run away
56:40 <Nothing\> man, so many cicadas out there
56:50 <Nothing\> they weren't kidding when they said this year would be worse for them
13:26 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
13:31 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
13:33 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
13:39 <Nothing\> i'm doing great, how bout you?
13:47 <Nothing\> enjoying your weekend? or you working?
14:28 <Ampera> No I'm not working
14:37 <Ampera> my DAC/ADC and headphones came in today
14:40 <Nothing\> right on. So you got any plans?
14:40 <Ampera> have been trying that
14:44 <Nothing\> oh, nice
14:57 <Nothing\> why would headphones need a dac and adc?
15:06 <Nothing\> isn't that what the amp should do?
15:14 <Nothing\> or receiver or whatever
15:26 <Nothing\> the stereo
15:55 <Nothing\> i have a discrete 8 channel ADC here i've always wanted to do something with
16:00 <Ampera> No, the DAC/ADC is for my guitar
16:06 <Nothing\> ooohhh i see
16:08 <Nothing\> nice
16:15 <Nothing\> you should make your own effects pedal
16:20 <Ampera> I plug the guitar into the DAC/ADC, which digitizes it, and either sticks it straight out to the headphones, or through a DSP and then through headphones
16:25 <Ampera> why
16:35 <Nothing\> make something like an atari punk console that interfaces with your guitar
16:46 <Nothing\> i dunno, to learn about synthesizers?
17:40 <Ampera> I hate electronics
17:49 <electrohead> and they hate you.
17:59 <Ampera> damn fucking straight
18:05 <electrohead> lol, hey man
18:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh yeah, i forgot you're not fond of EE
18:27 <Nothing\> which makes me wonder how on earth you found your way here in the first place
18:41 <Nothing\> omg
18:45 <Nothing\> you're a spy aren't you?
18:57 <Ampera> I wanted to be an EE for years before my hopes and dreams were brutally murdered by computer science
19:12 <Nothing\> yeah, that's what i found
19:17 <Ampera> what would be a complicated and interesting design 20-30 years ago is now just a one chip solution with some code
19:20 <Nothing\> lol i went into EE as an alternative to programming
19:26 <Nothing\> then i run into embedded systems
19:27 <Ampera> so, to get revenge at the computer scientists, I became one
19:39 <Nothing\> and it's like "sorry, you can't do EE unless you know how to program now"
20:03 <Nothing\> although in a way, making digital circuits almost IS like programming
20:27 <Nothing\> it's like a mix of programming and legos
21:26 <Nothing\> just got a bunch of "black boxes" with various functions that you have to "snap" together to create a string of functions and conditional statements that do what you want
21:53 <Nothing\> fuuuuu i hate being tired
21:59 <Nothing\> i really wish i had some modafinil
22:07 <Nothing\> or some sort of ampakine
22:16 <Nothing\> they're like the next generation stimulants
22:55 <Nothing\> allow a person to stay up for days with no psychomotor agitation, no psychoactive effects, no hallucinations or any other side effects you get from amphetamines
23:01 <Nothing\> just alertness
23:14 <Nothing\> it's remarkable, but i'm sure there's a catch
23:37 <Nothing\> i remember reading about ampakines in scientific american like 20 years ago
23:58 <Nothing\> i have an AMPA modulator, but it doesn't seem to do anything in terms of keeping me alert
24:06 <Nothing\> but it at least has neuroprotective properties
24:49 <Nothing\> they even sell this drug i have in russia as a treatment for dementia
26:30 <Nothing\> wtf
26:42 <Nothing\> there's a citation here on wikipedia from "the psychoactive wiki"
26:54 <Nothing\> which is like some druggy reddit wiki or something
27:05 <Nothing\> seems like a real credible source
27:14 <Nothing\> er not a citation, related pages, sorry
27:17 <Nothing\> not quite the same thing
30:24 <Nothing\> here we go
30:38 <Nothing\> 2^128 is equal exactly to:
30:56 <Nothing\> 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456
31:08 <Nothing\> had to add commas for the sake of readability
31:44 <Nothing\> and 2^256 is:
32:29 <Nothing\> 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,853,269,984,665,640,564,039,457,584,007,913,129,639,936
32:33 <Nothing\> :o
32:45 <Ampera> if I don't say something my entire backlog will be filled with your messages.
32:51 <Nothing\> lol
33:01 <Nothing\> you can always do a /clear
33:09 <Ampera> cat Nothing\ >> /dev/null
33:14 <Ampera> would be a better idea
33:19 <Nothing\> lol
33:26 <Nothing\> nah
33:32 <Nothing\> send it its own log file
33:52 <Nothing\> so you have nothing but my witty banter all packed neatly into a single file
34:13 <Nothing\> hell, you could probably sell it as a self help book and make a mint
34:14 <Nothing\> lol
34:26 <Nothing\> "what not to do in social situations"
34:51 * StupidLikeAFox blinks
34:56 <Nothing\> like talk about that time i got a hair caught in my urethra
35:20 <Nothing\> StupidLikeAFox, you've got the idea!
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31:17 <Nothing\> lol it's funny watching my cats lap up the condensation on my iced cappuccino
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31:57 <Nothing\> my one cat's so picky/spoiled the only way he'll drink is if you give it to him out of the tap
32:05 <Nothing\> or out of a water bottle
32:20 <Kuschelpony> good day
32:37 <Nothing\> he'll drink out of a bowl in my room, but only if i pour out the water and pour in new water for him... every single time he drinks
32:38 <T3sl4> guten tag pony
32:42 <Nothing\> hey Kuschelpony
32:48 <Nothing\> and T3sl4
32:49 <Kuschelpony> Hallo Hallo
32:51 <Nothing\> howdy do
33:04 * T3sl4 waves at Nothing\
33:12 <Nothing\> i got my fauci ouchy yesterday
33:45 <Nothing\> i also finally got a doctor to look at my shoulder. It's gotten so bad it's practically crippled
33:56 <Nothing\> just as i suspected, it's a torn rotator cuff tendon
34:26 <Nothing\> he said i need an ultrasound to determine the extent of the tear and depending on how bad it is i'll either need just physio, or surgery and physio
34:32 <Nothing\> if it's a full tear
34:40 <Nothing\> but i don't think it is
34:48 <Nothing\> anyway, how are you guys?
34:57 <Nothing\> what's new in your lives?
36:41 <T3sl4> oof
39:26 <Nothing\> yeah but for what it's worth, it's not painful constantly
39:38 <Nothing\> just when i move it the wrong way. So I don't even notice it most of the time.
41:01 <Nothing\> but it's gotten worse to the point i'm ready to put it in a sling to totally immobilize it so I don't accidentally do something to irritate it
26:39 <Kuschelpony> so, i finally put the first peron on my ignore list on any IRC since 8 years
32:31 <rust_collector> good job
34:09 <rust_collector> I was bored today, and ended up making a tiny little frame saw. woodworking and dead skin mask fits so nicely together
39:43 * Lord_of_nothing think Mr. Kuschel just not want hear the truth about the Vacination and Covid 19.
39:58 <Lord_of_nothing> http://www.nuo7.at/
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47:24 <electrohead> Kuschelpony: who did you put on ignore? lol
47:58 <hsn> yesd
51:47 <rust_collector> probably the same guy other people put on the ignore list
53:29 <Nothing\> hey lemme ask you guys something
53:38 <Nothing\> pet owners in particular
53:51 <rust_collector> ok, we will allow that
54:09 <Nothing\> you know how when you try to point at something you're trying to show your cat (or dog) and instead of looking where you're pointing, they look at your hand?
54:22 * T3sl4 pets rust_collector's collection of rusts
54:36 <rust_collector> yeah.....
54:44 <Nothing\> i was just wondering if pointer dogs would understand what it means and look where you're pointing instead of at your hand
55:16 <Nothing\> it IS possible for animals to figure it out. My one cat already figured it out and looks at where i'm pointing now.
55:31 <Nothing\> So I'm wondering if it's innately built in to pointer dogs.
55:34 <T3sl4> could also just be learned
55:55 <Nothing\> yeah i guess it also depends if pointing is learned or innate too
55:58 <T3sl4> they know to make the point body gesture but don't know what it means
56:27 <rust_collector> they probably just need a good reason to learn that.
56:28 <Nothing\> yeha i was just wondering if a dog pointing is more like a symbol of alert or warning for other members of the pack
56:31 <Nothing\> or something like that
56:54 <Nothing\> rather than actually pointing to indicate something in a specific direction/location like we do
57:24 <Nothing\> i dunno my cat just came to understand it on his own
57:41 <T3sl4> i don't know that it's an instinct, but i'm no caninexpert
57:45 <Nothing\> but when i talk to him i try to use gestures along with the words to make it easier on him
58:02 <Kuschelpony> electrohead someone from here who has really pissed me from his anti-vaccination-propaganda
58:03 <Nothing\> so he can hapefully understand the gestures easier than words
58:17 <Nothing\> T3sl4, nor am i
58:46 <Nothing\> i had a dog for a brief period but he was too much for us to hand so we had to get rid of him
59:13 <Nothing\> neither me nor my mom had the time to take him out
59:27 <Nothing\> and he was part huskey so he was naturally really energetic
59:28 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
59:38 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3
59:41 <Ampera> how are you Nothing\ guy
59:50 * T3sl4 splashes holy water on Ampera
59:51 <Nothing\> good, except for my itchy butthole
59:56 <Nothing\> brb
00:02 <T3sl4> oh wait, i meant a blessing not a curse
00:42 * Ampera sneezes on T3sl4 
00:47 <Ampera> bless you
01:28 <Nothing\> there
01:30 <Nothing\> much better
01:39 <Nothing\> anyshway
01:48 * T3sl4 painstakingly grabs every one of Ampera's sneeze-droplets with tweezers, eats them all
01:52 <Nothing\> i've been playing a lot of fallout: new vegas lately
01:59 <Ampera> there is ice in my air conditioner
02:00 <Nothing\> such an awesome game
02:06 <Nothing\> definitely the best of them all
02:13 <Ampera> T3sl4, a real pro would have done it with chopsticks
02:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, i've heard of that actually in one of the manuals for one of my air conditioners i bought
02:34 <Nothing\> possibly the portable one
02:43 <T3sl4> chopsticks are too crude for my hands
03:02 * Ampera coats T3sl4 in sweet crude
03:45 <T3sl4> mmm, texas tea
03:56 <Ampera> cloudflare is having a panic attack again
04:06 <Nothing\> man, i didn't expect my covid shot to hurt so much
04:15 <Ampera> Nothing\, the shot itself or afterwards
04:19 <Ampera> my arm was pretty sore on the first one
04:25 <Nothing\> i mean, it's tolerable, but just surprising how much more painful it is than i expected
04:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, afterwards
04:35 <Nothing\> the shot was nothing
04:40 <Nothing\> just 0.3ml of liquid
04:52 <Nothing\> i've had much larger IM injections
05:08 <Ampera> the second shot for me destroyed me for a whole day
05:16 <Ampera> I forget exactly what was wrong with me, but it was pretty good
05:24 <Nothing\> and with those, usually it's while it's going in that it actually hurts just from the pressure of so much liquid being forced into the muscle
05:39 <Nothing\> and it's absorbed into the tissue almost like a sponge over time
06:15 <Nothing\> but another thing that can happen is if there's something in the IM injection that irritates the muscle, you can get a delayed reaction like this
06:17 <T3sl4> https://youtu.be/B49dB8pw9R4?t=62 Ampera
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06:32 <Nothing\> i'm just wondering what cause the irritation
06:47 <Nothing\> maybe one of the preservatives or something, i dunno
07:13 <Nothing\> it's really not bad though. I've had much worse pain from an IM injection. But like I said it was always at the moment of injection.
07:44 <Ampera> Nothing\, don't worry, you'll be in agony with the second
08:06 <rust_collector> yeah, the second one is horrible
08:25 <Ampera> I'm excited for the third one
08:32 <Ampera> and the fourth one
08:35 <Ampera> and then the fifth one
08:37 <Nothing\> Heh when I had to get antibiotic injections in my ass/thigh for a badly abscessed tooth. I reacted so bad to it that I almost passed out from a vasovagal reaction. Basically just a shock to my system. Like swooning, I guess.
08:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah everyone's told me the second is worse
09:05 <Ampera> I wish cloudflare would stop shitting itself
09:15 <Nothing\> and now they're considering suggesting a 3rd shot now for the delta variant
09:51 <rust_collector> I wish we would get real vaccines up here, because they have to be fake, as it did not hurt, and I am not even a little bit magnetic yet
10:13 <Nothing\> it was funny when i got the antibiotics though cuz i wasn't expecting it at all. I normally take injections very well.
10:52 <rust_collector> I think it is more funny that you have a tooth issue, and get told to drop your pants
11:33 <Nothing\> after they gave it to me, i did up my pants and started walking down the hall to leave. And all of a sudden I start feeling really shakey and weak. I go pale as a sheet, I'm pouring sweat and feel like I'm about to pass out.
11:40 <T3sl4> Ampera: and the major 5th halleluja
11:51 * Ampera throws a matzo ball at T3sl4 
12:06 * T3sl4 gags himself on the giant ball
12:10 <Nothing\> So I go back to them and ask if there's any dangerous reason why i should feel this way and they reassured me it was just anxiety or a vasovagal reaction
12:32 <Nothing\> so i just laid down to get blood flowing back to my brain and felt fin afer 10-15 minutes
12:40 <Nothing\> it was the damndest thing though
12:45 <T3sl4> Nothing\: doesn't sound like a normal immune (over)reaction. they do want you to wait for 15 mins to monitor immediate symptoms
13:12 <Nothing\> T3sl4, no no this was for an antibiotic shot i got for a badly abscessed tooth
13:21 <Nothing\> like, maybe a year or two ago
13:47 <Nothing\> i was just saying it's weird i reacted like that cuz i'm usually good with injections
13:58 <Ampera> maybe it was a vasovaginal reaction and you almost grew a pussy
14:57 <Nothing\> but i had to get more shots after that for antibiotics so every time i'd just get them to do it while i'm lying down and let me lie there for maybe 15 minutes after each shot
15:05 <Nothing\> and i was fine after that
16:18 <Nothing\> but they were fairly sizeable and painful injections. Plus being in the thigh the one came close to my sciatic nerve and i got pain that shot down my leg
17:06 <electrohead> Kuschelpony: heh, yeah, there's a lot of those types of people floating around, anymore
18:22 <Nothing\> heh there were a few times at the dentist while he was anesthetizing me where he actually hit the nerve and injected the lidocaine right into the nerve.
18:24 <hsn> I cant find the rds(on) for irf510 when vgs is not 10v ..
18:38 <Nothing\> it hurt like all bloody hell, but damned if it didn't work instantly
18:40 <Kuschelpony> its too high anyway...
18:48 <Nothing\> it was pretty cool thta way actually
19:02 <Kuschelpony> IRF510 is only interesting because of its small capacitance
19:21 <Nothing\> you know how it usually takes 5-10 minutes for the lidocaine injection to numb you at the dentist
19:32 <T3sl4> ah
19:33 <Nothing\> mine was just instant any time he hit the nerve like that
19:48 <T3sl4> hsn: try IRL510
19:49 <hsn> There is somthing called Forward transconductance
20:28 <hsn> T3sl4: as component or datasheet .. because i wanted irf510 because its what i ve got..
20:30 <Kuschelpony> thats the ration of deltaIDrain / delta Ugate
20:47 <Nothing\> i found out years later the reason was probably because i've had so many teeth removed that all of the landmarks he would have used for determining the injection site were either missing or moved so he had a harder time figuring out where he was
20:52 <Nothing\> that's why he did it more than once
21:12 <Nothing\> lol or the worst was the "intrapulpal" anesthesia
21:29 <Nothing\> where when he was giving me a root canal and i could still feel it
21:45 <Nothing\> so he'd literally stick a needle inside my tooth and inject lidocaine direction into the pulp
22:01 <Nothing\> it hurts like all hell (again) but it's very effective
22:11 <electrohead> !paste
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23:11 <hsn> Kuschelpony: so,, can i take that transconductance and get estimated rds(on) from delta vgs ?
23:33 <Nothing\> operational transconductance amplifier?
23:39 <Ampera> electrohead, at this rate you might as well trigger that command every time Nothing\ speaks
23:41 <hsn> Or it doesnt work like that
23:42 <Nothing\> lm17000
23:49 <electrohead> lmfao
23:57 <T3sl4> hsn: your next best bet is Id vs Vds, Vgs curves, but those are typical, and offset relative to your actual device Vgs(th), you'll have to measure and potentially sort parts to find out
24:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, i told you you should save everything i say into a plaintext log
25:54 <Ampera> Nothing\, what do I like like to you, a datacenter?
26:02 <Nothing\> yup
26:10 <Nothing\> now dance, data monkey
26:15 <Nothing\> DANCE I SAY!!
26:38 <rust_collector> he is busy typing in everything you say
27:15 <Nothing\> hey lemme ask you somithng
27:18 <T3sl4> if your friends don't dance then they're, no friends of mine
27:24 <Ampera> please don't
27:25 <Kuschelpony> hsn, no they are completely different things
27:50 <Nothing\> T3sl4, you can dance you can dance but you must enhance your pants
28:00 <Nothing\> doo doo dee dee doo doo doo dee dee
28:14 <Ampera> /murder Nothing\
28:14 <rust_collector> you need parachute pants, like mc hammer
28:17 <T3sl4> everybody look at my Hanz
28:37 <Nothing\> rust_collector, nah nah, you need backwards clothing like kriss kross
28:48 <Nothing\> who i think actually died not long ago
28:57 <rust_collector> oh, good
30:41 <Nothing\> yeah
30:44 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ku2d8TjftQTuc7FZ8
30:44 <hsn> So can i say that rds(on) on red region is infinity???
30:49 <Nothing\> he died of a drug overdose in 2013
30:58 <Nothing\> that was quite a while ago
31:13 <hsn> While the green region its the slope
31:35 <Nothing\> i should see if i can wash my hair
31:44 <Nothing\> or if my shoulder's too crippled to do that
31:48 <Nothing\> in the sink, that is
31:52 <Nothing\> head shower
32:18 <hsn> I washed my hair in salt .. beach
32:20 <rust_collector> did you cut off the other arm?
32:35 <hsn> Its becoming un-oily
32:45 <hsn> Dry hair
34:09 <hsn> T3sl4: last pic red region Shows infinity rds(on) .. isnt that wierd?
34:26 <T3sl4> hsn: as in, high (not quite infinite) incremental resistance? yes, that's the linear range
34:52 <T3sl4> (which, be careful, it's "linear" for BJTs, but "[current] saturation" for FETs)
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12:46 <steve30> hi
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24:24 <Erhard> That sounds good
27:01 <Some_Person> Goodwill stuff; didn’t buy anything today: https://imgur.com/a/q4sjnsa
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21:00 <StupidLikeAFox> Somebody send me a null modem cable
23:29 * T3sl4 sends StupidLikeAFox nothing
24:14 <StupidLikeAFox> Or do I want a straight through cable?
24:22 <StupidLikeAFox> the two ends are opposite gender\
25:39 <StupidLikeAFox> derp, I want straight through, but the cables I have are null modem wired/gendered
31:05 <StupidLikeAFox> double derp, looking at cables on amazon, I see all 6 possible combos of wiring + genders
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10:51 <T3sl4> /me pets steve30
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11:20 <steve30> I've been gay-pride-ing today
11:35 <steve30> I walked a long distance round Manchester with the video camera and now my hip hurts
13:57 <T3sl4> it's hip to be... around?
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17:30 <rust_collector> if I was walking, I think I would stay a long distance from Manchester too
19:09 <steve30> i'm just trying to retrace my steps on google maps to find out how far i went
19:27 <steve30> the fact that i don't know the area and kept getting lost meant i walked much further than i had to
20:49 <rust_collector> did you discover any interesting places there?
21:21 <steve30> yes
21:27 <steve30> I found a blue post box
21:34 <rust_collector> oooooh
27:01 <rust_collector> well, good night.
30:15 <steve30> 8.77 miles
48:51 <electrohead> I'm working on a barcode decoder in python, for a serial based barcode scanner I have. if there's anyone that would have a use for said program, let me know, cheers
49:16 * steve30 doesn't have any barcode scanners
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54:08 <electrohead> for the most part, it's actually not *needed*, as most, if not all barcode scanners just output the decoded data at the scanner
54:37 <electrohead> but, came across a package called pyzbar, and going to be playing with it
54:40 * electrohead shrugs
54:43 <electrohead> lol
55:11 <electrohead> it's more just for the fun of it
55:28 <electrohead> steve30: I've acquired a 1D/2D scanner, from my old workplace
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55:42 <steve30> What does that do?
55:43 <electrohead> the Honeywell 1400G
56:26 * steve30 googles
56:31 <electrohead> the pyzbar package? it's a barcode decoder library, and going to utilize it, to display data in a nice and neat fashion, maybe even get it to automagically tell me what encoding is used, if possible
12:31 <electrohead> yeah, so if a barcode scanner doesn't have a raw data mode, and *only* outputs ascii/decoded information, then a client side decoder is pretty useless - should mention that
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16:05 <electrohead> and of course, I'm not seeing an option for that
16:35 <electrohead> so, back to the original idea - just to make up a PDF417 decoder, aka a drivers license barcode
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17:16 * electrohead rubs on the Halcyon
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21:35 <Halcyon> I like a good mechanical pencil
22:32 <T3sl4> all this rubbing is going to extend your lead
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34:15 <arch> im thinking of starting to build off-line psus. starting off simple, so TNYxxx series (topswitch)
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43:50 <Halcyon> Pew, self-cleaning ovens are stinky and produce a hell of a lot of VOCs
44:47 <Erhard> Likely better than that spray oven cleaner
45:56 <Halcyon> Yep
46:28 <Halcyon> Even with the doors and windows open and ducted air on fan mode, the Dyson air purifiers are registering reasonably high numbers.
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09:22 <MrMobodies> what do you see first?
09:40 <steve30> eevblog
09:41 <MrMobodies> the Eevblog busted video of the WiGL themselves?
09:48 <MrMobodies> oh good and quite rightfully
10:06 <MrMobodies> Joke: Nice Youtube see's some sense in these things.
10:59 <MrMobodies> checked on an empty browser not signed in to google
11:52 <MrMobodies> I see their latest: video 4 up and 34 down
12:07 <MrMobodies> the one their zoomed in and blurred bits out of
12:32 <MrMobodies> oh no... sorry that is another one
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34:33 <Nothing\> oh maaaan that was a tasty breakfast
34:46 <Nothing\> who'd have thought foood would taste better when you make it yourself
34:51 <Nothing\> not this 36 year old
35:14 <Nothing\> and it's doubly tasty cuz i don't gotta do no dishes!
43:10 <StupidLikeAFox> Nothing\: after I learned how to make omlettes without burning them, I find most ones somebody else cooked so-so at best
48:22 <Nothing\> it's cuz they just don't know the little nuances that you like
48:27 <Nothing\> unless they're a mother or SO
48:46 <Nothing\> although, i'd hate to say it but even my mom's starting to lose her touch in her old age
49:07 <Nothing\> i fear she may be starting to develop dementia. Very early stages, but there's definitely something not right.
49:37 <Nothing\> Or it could just be she's stressed. I know I get super forgetful and confused when I'm stressed.
50:27 <Nothing\> either way, after seeing what it did to my grandparents, i think i'd rather poison her when she got to that point than watch it take her
50:40 <Nothing\> such a fucked up disease
50:48 <Nothing\> lol sorry, that somehow turned dark quickly
50:54 <Nothing\> stupid ADD
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01:02 <Nothing\> weird, the dialog in new vegas keeps popping loudly every so often
01:08 <Nothing\> like a dirty vinyl record
01:40 <Nothing\> resource usage is fine, my computer should have no problem running it even with a lot of resource usage
01:47 <Nothing\> i could probably run it on a single thread
01:56 <Nothing\> and there's 16 to go around
18:53 <StupidLikeAFox> My cooking for myself tends towards rather bold flavors
19:13 <StupidLikeAFox> garlic powder is the seasoning I go through the fastest
24:48 <Nothing\> i don't like to experiment when cooking for myself
24:59 <Nothing\> for the same reason i don't like cooking for myself
25:02 <Nothing\> the dishes
25:16 <Nothing\> well i guess it's more than that for the experimenting
25:38 <Nothing\> i just worry/know i'm gonna screw it up and waste all the time and effort put into it, plus the cleanup
25:59 <Nothing\> oddly enough i have no such problems when i take my anxiety meds lol
26:23 <Nothing\> i've been working on this... i guess it's an essential oil extraction from catnip
26:48 <Nothing\> so i can turn anything into a toy for my cats
27:38 <Nothing\> i'm still waiting for the alcohol to evaporate, but i dipped a paper towel in it and let the alcohol dry off and gave it to my cat and he went nuts over it
27:46 <Nothing\> and then he tried to eat it lol
29:56 <Nothing\> lol i dunked the end of an empty pill bottle in it
30:12 <Nothing\> they already like playing with them as it is, but this should turn it into crack
35:19 <Nothing\> waffle waffle waffle
35:48 * Nothing\ drums on his legs while looking around the room wondering what to do
36:03 <StupidLikeAFox> IMO the strongest grain spirits you could get would've been a better solvent
36:08 <Nothing\> guess i could make that LFSR i was gonna make the other day
36:26 <StupidLikeAFox> tinctures are traditionally ethanol based
36:30 <Nothing\> StupidLikeAFox, i dunno cuz it wouldn't be a pure alcohol/water solution
36:35 <Nothing\> there'd be other stuff in it
36:42 <Nothing\> isopropanol works just fine
36:51 <Nothing\> StupidLikeAFox, it's not meant to be a tincture though
36:59 <Nothing\> i'm evaporating the alcohol off
37:04 <Nothing\> so just the oils are left
37:27 <Nothing\> and they don't sell high proof ethanol here anyways
37:33 <StupidLikeAFox> neutral grain spirits/everclear = as close to ethanol and water without being reagent grade as you'll get easily
37:38 <Nothing\> at least not that isn't denatured, and i'm not giving that to my cats
37:46 <Nothing\> they don't sell everclear here
37:52 <Nothing\> nothing over 50%
38:12 <Nothing\> unless it has something like bitrex or methanol added
38:31 <StupidLikeAFox> 151 proof is the highest I can get locally, I have to go out of state to get 191
38:45 <StupidLikeAFox> *153, but 151 is more common
38:51 <Nothing\> yeah they don't even sell 151 here
38:57 <Nothing\> probably just as well
39:22 <Nothing\> i had it once, all i remember was thinking to myself "oh shit, i've had way too much to drink" while rolling around on the floor
39:37 <Nothing\> kinda defeats the purpose of drinking for fun when you're at that point lol
40:54 <StupidLikeAFox> yeah, it's pretty much something to spike other things with, and a food grade solvent
41:17 <Nothing\> see that's why we need to teach kids more about alcohol
41:36 <Nothing\> and not keep them completely in the dark about it, as i know some parents have done with people i knew.
41:49 <Nothing\> my parents never talked to me about it, but they never hid it from me either.
42:39 <Nothing\> but still, because of that ignorance, me and many other people who get to the point where they have access to alcohol, we had no idea how to drink properly or safely, or how to pace ourselves
42:49 <Nothing\> i just slammed the stuff back until i was shitfaced
43:22 <Nothing\> and i'm sure just about everyone, in the west at least, has become sick from drinking too much as a teen/young adult
44:56 <Nothing\> if parents took a moment to explain to their kids the pros and cons of drinking and emphasize the importance of pacing yourself and drinking mixed drinks instead of straight, or low percentage drinks like beer or wine, then we wouldn't drink ourselves sick the first few times we get drunk
46:37 <Nothing\> if you've ever watched nostalgia critic, he made a video where he was talking about seeing ghostbusters in the theater with his Dad, and his parents were such hard christians/teetotalers that there's a scene in the film where dan aykroyd and bill murray are talking outside some building and they've got a pint of whiskey they're passing back and forth
47:11 <Nothing\> when nostalgia critic asked his dad what they were drinking, his dad told him it was the special juice that turns them into ghostbusters
47:51 <Nothing\> because it was before they were ghostbusters, just struggling to make do working for the university
48:22 <Nothing\> they drink the hard liquor, then they start getting all of the stuff ready and become ghostbusters lol
49:16 <Nothing\> so i guess later on, nostalgia critic told one of his friends about it, so his friend stole some whiskey from his parents and brought it to school, mind you they're like 10-12 at this point and they get in total shit
49:43 <Nothing\> meanwhile neither kid has any idea what they did or why it was wrong. They honestly thought they just brought special ghostbusters juice to school
50:53 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i bought ghostbusters on my nintendo switch and never got around to playing it... i have a lot of games i've bought but haven't played
54:19 <StupidLikeAFox> I say these things as somebody who had a microwaved cheese quesedilla, and a generous measure of gin and tonic for breakfast
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41:03 <rust_collector> mornings
42:54 <electrohead> mournings
44:06 <rust_collector> oh good
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02:55 <Nothing\> morning
03:05 <Nothing\> hey, i've a question about power supplies
03:05 <rust_collector> yes!
03:10 <rust_collector> oh
03:23 <rust_collector> the answer is no, and probably china
03:30 <Nothing\> any idea, just off the top of your head how to set current limiting? I recall something about shorting the two terminals
03:32 <Nothing\> but that's it
04:02 <Nothing\> otherwise i'll just use a battery pack
04:09 <Nothing\> maybe i should use one anyways
05:00 <rust_collector> yes, you probably need to short the output together, and set your current limit.
05:40 <Nothing\> also they should make some sort of cable for a power supply, or multimeter or whatever that just has pins in it that have just the right size and flexibility to slide right into a breadboard or perfboard
05:53 <Nothing\> rust_collector, okay that's what i figured
06:12 <Nothing\> short, set, unshort, then set voltage, connect load
06:18 <rust_collector> yes
06:22 <Nothing\> super!
06:29 <Nothing\> and simple
07:13 <Nothing\> but man, i got a psu with a ground pin, but they only gave me a 2 pin cord lol
07:26 <Nothing\> i mean i have a million other banana plug cords but still
07:32 <Nothing\> it's not terribly thoughtful of them
08:34 <rust_collector> well... it probably saves them from many people getting confused
08:51 <Nothing\> that's true
09:14 <Nothing\> like the time i tried to check the current coming out of my mains with my multimeter
09:24 <rust_collector> most probably never use the ground anyway
09:25 <Nothing\> KIDDING!
09:46 <Nothing\> well i wanted a ground to make it easier to work with op amps and OTAs
10:00 <rust_collector> uuh, okayyy
10:19 <Nothing\> just cuz i found the idea of using 2 batteries to make a ground dumb
11:01 <rust_collector> so, you have 2 supplies?
11:23 <Nothing\> unless the batteries are exactly balanced in terms of their voltage and how fast they drain it seems like one battery would end up with a higher load than the other battery
11:25 <Nothing\> no
11:29 <Nothing\> i have one supply
11:35 <Nothing\> it just has a ground pin on it
11:45 <rust_collector> yes...
12:04 <Nothing\> i'm talking about how some people recommend putting 2 batteries in parallel and using the point between them as your ground
12:09 <rust_collector> yes
12:28 <rust_collector> and I am talking about how are you going to do that with your supply?
12:38 <Nothing\> i know you can also use two resistors or capacitors in series in a similar way
12:42 <Nothing\> but this just seems easier
13:01 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i don't have to, my supply has a 3rd pin for grounding
13:28 <rust_collector> think about that for a bit.... you want a positive and a negative voltage, referenced to mains ground...
13:42 <Nothing\> right
13:58 <Nothing\> and i have a positive, ground and negative terminal
14:07 <rust_collector> yes...
14:25 <Nothing\> and an ATX power cord with 3 pins
14:36 <Nothing\> which connects to mains
14:40 <rust_collector> sure
14:46 <Nothing\> what's the problem?
15:10 <Nothing\> forgive me if it's obvious, i am tired
15:20 <Nothing\> i feel like i'm missing something really obvious here
15:34 <Nothing\> but it just ain't clickin
16:04 <Nothing\> i mean, as long as it's isolated there shouldn't be an issue with safety
16:18 <Nothing\> so i can't think of what else it could be
16:30 <rust_collector> where does the ground connect, inside your supply?
16:51 <Nothing\> i'd imagine directly to the ground pin on the plug
16:56 <rust_collector> yes
17:10 <rust_collector> probably, that, and the case, if it has a metal one
17:24 <Nothing\> i see what you mean
17:39 <rust_collector> but, how will you get an output voltage lower than that ground?
17:46 <Nothing\> but i'll be honest, i've thought about grounding my circuits to mains, and i've seen other people do it. Not that that makes it a good idea.
18:16 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i'm not sure, but it does it some how
18:38 <rust_collector> is it a dual supply?
19:24 <Nothing\> you mean dual channel? no
19:48 <rust_collector> sure, you can put the leads backwards, and get a negative voltage, but then, how will you get the positive voltage?
21:51 <Nothing\> i see your point
21:56 <Nothing\> you'd have to ground one side
22:19 <Nothing\> that is your point, right?
22:43 <Nothing\> establish a reference voltage
23:22 <rust_collector> Uh, I think it is. sort of. maybe. I am not exactly awake either
24:40 <Nothing\> yeah, i'm just making a 4017 blinken lights thing for my cat to chase
24:49 <Nothing\> so i can just use a 4x AA holder
25:19 <Nothing\> that's what i love about 4000 series chips, they're very versatile in the voltage they can use
25:33 <Nothing\> 7400s it's 4.5v or nothing
26:55 <Nothing\> ah this says 2-6v for the 595
27:11 <Nothing\> that's a bit better, but still not great
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28:56 <rust_collector> did you forget your squirrels?
30:47 <rust_collector> you need to get one of those laser level things, they use at building sites. it is a good visible light, and it spins, usually at an adjustable speed, so you would have the cat(s) running around the walls, lol
31:44 <Nothing\> heh i haven't been feeding the squirrels much in the last year or so
31:54 <rust_collector> awww
31:59 <Nothing\> the landlord people sent us a letter saying to knock it off
32:10 <rust_collector> well, they are probably less overweight now
32:12 <Nothing\> then listed off the reasons why it's not good to have squirrels around
32:19 <rust_collector> hehe
32:21 <Nothing\> disease, getting into garbage, getting into houses, etc
32:38 <Nothing\> plus, yeah the mice and other rodents were getting into it
33:01 <Nothing\> but every now and then we throw some peanuts out for the squirrels so the cats can watch
33:19 <Nothing\> although it's mostlyl chipmunks that come get them
34:43 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector
34:50 <Nothing\> did i tell you i have a torn rotator cuff?
35:08 <rust_collector> you mentioned it yesterday, I think
35:21 <Nothing\> yeah lol stupid family doctor wouldn't even see me for it
35:41 <Nothing\> but luckiyl my methadone doctor's a pain specialist on the side, so he had a look at it for me
36:06 <Nothing\> i don't think he appreciated me calling my doctor a coward for not coming into his office for any reason thouh
36:24 <Nothing\> but to me, that's like the captain of a boat jumping ship before everyone else is off safely
36:52 <Nothing\> he's putting his own well being ahead of that of his patients
37:24 <Nothing\> lol then i tried to backtrack and was like "well... i guess he's not much good to anybody if he's dead"
37:33 <rust_collector> well... having a doctor off sick does not help anyone
38:01 <Nothing\> i was just tired, which makes me especially socially retarded
38:10 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah that's what i was trying to say lol
39:08 <rust_collector> I remember reading a lot about rotator cuff issues, probably 10 years ago.
40:04 <Nothing\> it's not fun, but it's not bad either
40:04 <rust_collector> shoulders is the only body part I am a bit worried about. the rest of the joints are more like hinges, and can be fixed or replaced. shoulders are not so easy
40:20 <Nothing\> most of the time it doesn't even hurt, but because of that i forget it's injured
40:34 <Nothing\> so i'll move it the wrong way and suddenly the pain shoots up to a 7 or so
41:03 <Nothing\> somewhere between unbearable and borderline unbearable-
41:44 <Nothing\> but only for a few minutes most of the time. But sometimes it'll hurt all day to a lesser extent
42:14 <Nothing\> and regardless of pain, the range of motion is severely diminished to the point that it's pretty much crippled
42:27 <Nothing\> i'm just glad the pain isn't worse
42:33 <rust_collector> I find it hard to figure out what way the wrong way is. because when you move your arm around, to try to feel for when it "says no" but then it never does. then you do the same movement later, and it is there, lol
42:48 <Nothing\> and that i was able to get physio before the pian did get worse
43:25 <Nothing\> lol i've had that before
43:42 <Nothing\> this time it wasn't hard to find the boundariesof motion though
44:38 <Nothing\> lol or like getting an eye exam and you can't tell if one lens is better than the other
45:04 <Nothing\> which, i just found out apparently doug ford cut eyecare out of our provincial health insurance
45:10 <Nothing\> so i'm pretty pissed off about that
45:13 <rust_collector> I should have my eyes looked at
45:19 <Nothing\> eyecare for everyone
45:35 <Nothing\> i mean ffs, at least leave eyecare for the elderly and children
45:44 <Nothing\> it's not like it's an optional thing
45:54 <Nothing\> especially for a child trying to do well in school
46:08 <rust_collector> nah, they don't pay any taxes
46:16 * electrohead throws peanuts at Nothing\ and acts like a squirrel
46:25 <rust_collector> boing boing boing
46:38 <Nothing\> if they have an undiagnosed condition. And the elderly just inherently get macular degeneration because of their age
47:06 <Nothing\> electrohead, you squirrel me good
47:12 <electrohead> :p
47:17 <Nothing\> lemme ask you guys something
47:30 <Nothing\> when the weather changes from one season to another
48:11 <rust_collector> it always gets colder... and colder...and colder, then it gets really hot again
48:12 <Nothing\> does the change in weather ever cause you to have flashbacks to old memories from other dimes when the weather was like that?
48:37 <Nothing\> maybe the previous year's season or a few years before
49:40 <rust_collector> eeh. I am not huge on flashbacks. but I do some times remember something from years ago, maybe because of the weather, or maybe because of animal doing something, because of the weather, or...
49:47 <Nothing\> yay the 555 portion of my blinken lights works
49:58 <Nothing\> now for the 4017
50:06 <Nothing\> which i hate, cuz the pinout's so arbitrary
50:21 <rust_collector> nah, you know it, so it is fine
50:25 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
50:30 <Ampera> good morning
50:36 <Nothing\> i just use wires with dupont connectors and don't even try to make it clean cuz why bother
50:39 <Nothing\> heya Ampera
50:44 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera 
50:48 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
50:48 <Nothing\> how you doing?
51:01 <Ampera> My head hurts slightly less for now, but we'll see how that progresses
51:19 <Nothing\> ah i'm doing pretty well. Just working on some sort of blinken lights circuit
51:30 <Nothing\> that sucks man
51:36 <Nothing\> what do you think caused it?
51:40 <Nothing\> migraine?
51:43 <Ampera> would you rather it hurts worse today?
51:45 <Ampera> I have no clue
51:46 <Nothing\> stress?
51:56 <Ampera> my guess is withdrawal from diphenhydramine
51:59 <rust_collector> Nothing\ wants you to suffer. you know that
52:03 <Nothing\> or you just got a retarded meninges?
52:07 <Ampera> rust_collector, he and I have so much in common.
52:14 <rust_collector> yep
52:27 <Ampera> how are you doing rusty shives?
52:52 <rust_collector> I am just trying to wake up. nothing much is happening here
53:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, hrm i don't see how diphenhydramine withdrawal would cause it. But 1. I'm not a doctor and 2. If that's the only thing that's hanged, it must be the cause
54:01 <Ampera> it could be unrelated, but I was taking 6 doses a day for a week, and then stopped cold turkey
54:15 <rust_collector> no, it could be a lot of things, but you will never know, he just has a headache
54:23 <Ampera> and one of the main side effects of diphenhydramine for me is mild delirium, so I it's my best guess
54:41 <Ampera> I just woke up too
54:46 <Ampera> I'm gonna go straighten my hair in a bit
55:10 <Ampera> so that way if someone calls my hair gay, I can say it's straighter than theirs
55:29 <rust_collector> humm
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