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04:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Australian covid graph of local cases. The data isn't missing, it's zero, across the entire country. https://t.co/RGQ4peQVUp
08:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Wow, LBRY isn't on wikipedia, or Odysee. :Which was quoting: LBRY: can someone good at wording put us on wikipedia if we do it ourselves it's illegal
11:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Of course people still come into the country with covid, they just aren't allowed to the barbie. https://t.co/V6v3w2l9H6
12:28 <hsn> https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1354892849800638465?s=19
13:38 <hsn> Wtf elon musk can literally buy lots of bitcoin .. tweet about it .. then sell it again ..
16:04 <T3sl4> yes indeed
16:37 <T3sl4> you might wish to reevaluate your authoritarian worldviews, upon seeing that everyone is, in fact, out to screw you, including those authorities who proclaim they know what is right for you :)
31:15 <hsn> T3sl4, fsociety
53:41 <K> y'all are too conerned with this society thing, it will pass.
56:52 <electrohead> o/
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17:04 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
23:35 <K> mrnnnn
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24:18 <SATNATALES> hi
24:38 <SATNATALES> someone sell a DMM maybe 34461A ?
24:42 <SATNATALES> or something
25:38 <SATNATALES> i need a DMM of 6 1/2 digit
26:48 <Ysjoelfir> What are you willing to spend?
26:52 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi K
28:17 <SATNATALES> omg, mmmmm maybe 400 USD
29:32 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-Agilent-34401A-Digital-Multimeter-6-Digit/273594681330?epid=710140765&hash=item3fb38387f2:g:zAgAAOSwsuNbq05q
31:38 <SATNATALES> i'm from america
33:47 <Ysjoelfir> So?
35:15 <SATNATALES> very expensive 4 me
35:25 <SATNATALES> thx
35:47 <K> lab grade gear is not cheap
36:07 <Ysjoelfir> exactly. I don't think that 490 is exceptionally expensive for a 34401a
38:45 <SATNATALES> i know, the 34470 in keysight is 3500 USD so so
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39:26 <SATNATALES> i want a DMM for calibrate my own multimeters
40:04 <K> what you need is a voltage reference
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40:21 <SATNATALES> K yes, is correct
40:22 <K> that will be less expensive
40:58 <SATNATALES> what r u recommend me ?
44:44 <SATNATALES> i have a handheld osciloscope
44:55 <Ysjoelfir> that won't be of any use for what you intend to do
45:00 <SATNATALES> and a handheld multimeter
45:01 <Ysjoelfir> you need a voltage reference for that
46:05 <SATNATALES> What instrument do I have to buy to have a reference voltage?
48:18 <Ysjoelfir> A Voltage Reference.
48:38 <Ysjoelfir> Or a Calibrator if you want it to be fancy
49:27 <SATNATALES> I need to know if my measuring equipment is correct
49:53 <Ysjoelfir> Why do you need that? What critical measurement are you going to do?
50:00 <SATNATALES> my oscilloscope and my multimeters
50:10 <Ysjoelfir> What are the accuracy specs you need to achieve?
50:54 <SATNATALES> I need to know that exactly to make reports
51:15 <K> i got something like this a while ago - https://www.ebay.de/itm/AD584kH-4-Channel-2-5v-7-5v-5v-10v-High-Precision-Voltage-Reference-Module/251744627382?hash=item3a9d262ab6:g:mW0AAOSwjn9ZksP9
51:21 <Ysjoelfir> you can't. there is no such thing as exactly because we are suffering from a Thing thats called reality.
51:35 <SATNATALES> en orden de los m
51:37 <K> with AD588 instead though
51:42 <SATNATALES> in order of m
52:07 <Ysjoelfir> I have some of the AD584s as well, neat little things, but they can be bad depending on the one you get.
52:12 <K> oscilloscope is not a measurement instrument
52:24 <K> it is visualisation tool
52:35 <Ysjoelfir> exactly what K says. also, I don't understand what you mean, SATNATALES. "in order of m" is not a accuracy specification
53:13 <K> get a voltage reference module, run it from batteries, all will be good.
53:48 <Ysjoelfir> probably yes, at least if you don't intend to do some high precision metrology grade stuff.
55:27 <SATNATALES> yes
55:32 <SATNATALES> w8
55:38 <Ysjoelfir> eh?
01:42 <SATNATALES> thank you very much i didn't know i needed a voltage reference
03:07 <Ysjoelfir> I noticed that
03:22 <SATNATALES> I had a unit ut61E handheld multimeter, but it was stolen, which one do you recommend?
03:47 <Ysjoelfir> You still didn't tell us what you want to do and how accurate you want to be, so we can't realy suggest anything sensible imho
04:37 <Ysjoelfir> who would steal a UT61e? Oo And why?
04:54 <Ysjoelfir> If that was the reference you would probably be fine with every midrange meter
05:08 <SATNATALES> I want to measure voltages and currents in order of the mV mA
05:45 <Ysjoelfir> still no accuracy spec, so I suggest that basically every meter will suit you. think about a Aneng AN8008
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06:48 <SATNATALES> I do field measurements on the boats
07:27 <Ysjoelfir> So you pretty much don't need any accuracy at all
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11:01 <SATNATALES> They had asked me to put in my reports with which instrument the multimeter was calibrated
12:09 <Ysjoelfir> Then get a calibrated cheapo meter and write down the one the manufacturer used and you're golden
12:18 <SATNATALES> later I need to measure switching sources but I don't know how or what instruments I need to do it
12:51 <Ysjoelfir> That depends highly on the measurement you need to do
13:33 <SATNATALES> in my country the calibration certificates are very expensive more than 2 multimeters mentioned above
15:23 <Ysjoelfir> That might be because proper certified calibration is not cheap. I don't know which part of the small continent you live in, but at least in the US I doubt that a self cal would be acceptable, if your calibration is not traceable
17:43 <SATNATALES> Generally, the switched power supplies have a supply voltage of 24VDC to 28VDC or 12VDC to 13.8VDC and their outputs vary greatly in voltage. I need to measure sensors of three-phase generator motors (inductive capacitive temperature pressure etc ...)
19:44 <SATNATALES> You recommend that I send the aneng multimeter to calibrate for example and obtain the calibration certificate and with that same attach the calibration certificate to the report, right?
22:00 <Ysjoelfir> for example, yes. though I doubt that any reputable cal lab will calibrate a cheapo multimeter. The problem with calibration is, that it needs to be traceable, otherwise its worth only the paper its written onto. I for myself can calibrate stuff, but I can't provice a traceable calibration, so I can't provice an ensurance that the values I use for calibration are reliable - so the whole calibration is nonsense. If I need a traceable cal I
22:00 <Ysjoelfir> would have to send the instrument away.
25:24 <Ysjoelfir> Actually I notice, I COULD make a traceable calibration for my stuff, as I have a calibrated instrument which is pretty precise. I could use that to cal some other instruments of mine, that are less precise. I should do that before the calibration expires
25:38 <K> but are you certified to do the cal?
25:51 <Ysjoelfir> No. Absolutely not.
26:14 <Ysjoelfir> I could only do that for myself obviously, not for a customer
26:18 <K> yea
27:26 <K> im afraid there are no quick-n-cheap ways round official, traceable cal certification
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28:04 <SATNATALES> Yes, you need to be certified by the certifying body of your country according to iso / iec 17025 with internal traceability and externally calibrated standard instruments
28:05 <Ysjoelfir> nope, sadly not. only if you work in a lab that is certified to do calibrations and are allowed to use the cal stuff in your lunchbreak.
28:25 <Ysjoelfir> yep, exactly that.
28:47 <K> problem is that your need to provide paperwork, probably generated (or at least recognized) by your local calibration services
28:47 <SATNATALES> I left that job
29:13 <SATNATALES> yep
29:20 <Ysjoelfir> yep yep
29:37 <K> buying stuff from ebay does not solve anything here
29:52 <SATNATALES> right
30:32 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
30:38 <SATNATALES> the problem as the friend says is that a certification laboratory is not going to calibrate an aneng for example it should be a sanwa a fluke something like that
31:52 <SATNATALES> I think that to make it as economical and viable as possible I have to contact the calibration laboratory of my country and ask what brands they are accepting to grant calibration certificates
32:21 <K> yes
32:46 <Ysjoelfir> if you pay them enough they probably would cal anything. but if you have to do that I would go the extra route and grab a quality piece of equipment that ensures me that the calibration won't be off after shipping it back. So yes, thats the way you should go.
34:52 <SATNATALES> In your case, what are the brands of handheld multimeters that can calibrate your countries? or some average brand of reliable multimeters
36:23 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ptb.de/cms/fileadmin/internet/fachabteilungen/abteilung_2/QMH_A2_KAP_31_V16_2019_web_en.pdf
47:55 <SATNATALES> What multimeter do you recommend with a budget of 100 dollars
50:02 <Ysjoelfir> Calibrated? None.
50:40 <SATNATALES> make it the most accurate in that price range
51:07 <Ysjoelfir> you know the EEVBlog?
51:32 <Ysjoelfir> they have a DMM comparison chart there, somewhere. Take a look at that.
51:37 <SATNATALES> yes
52:13 <SATNATALES> I saw it
52:19 <Ysjoelfir> great!
52:24 <Ysjoelfir> then you're all set
56:05 <K> i would also suggest you post on forum, maybe we've missed something, but if you post, please provide as much background as you can, two sentences probably wont be enough
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58:24 <SATNATALES> ok, excelent
00:12 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.upwork.com/jobs/PCI-Layout_~01a5873d55461d373f/ wth does that guy want?
00:31 <K> > Eiropas Zāļu aģentūra apstiprina 'AstraZeneca' vakcīnas izmantošanu (8)
00:36 <K> fuck
00:41 <K> > Access is restricted to registered users only.
01:37 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:40 <Ysjoelfir> wait, lemme copy
01:48 <Ysjoelfir> I would like to know the approximate cost to develop the layout of a single layer PCI. It is a very simple project !! It is a controller for DC motor. I have an oscillator based on the CI 555 and a power stage !! The plate will measure 150X200mm !! Can you give me a cost idea so I can analyze the project's feasibility? I need the files to make a PCI!!
01:48 <Ysjoelfir> Thanks
02:15 <K> PCI -> PCB
02:35 <Ysjoelfir> oh
02:39 <Ysjoelfir> now it makes sense
02:48 <K> sounds like someones school work
02:53 <Ysjoelfir> yep
03:31 <Ysjoelfir> wait. 150x200mm for a 555 + power? wth?
04:25 <K> CI -> IC
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04:41 <K> it looks quite mad eh
05:47 <Ysjoelfir> it does indeed
06:32 <Ysjoelfir> but meh, I have some proposals left, I offer that guy 200€ for the work, if its realy just a simple 555 + small pwoer stage
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12:06 <Ysjoelfir> bye mr. strange guy
17:43 * Ampera pours boiling hot air on Ysjoelfir 
18:45 * Ysjoelfir showers in the hot stream of nothingness
22:30 <Ysjoelfir> K, was it just me or was that guy realy a bit strange?
23:46 <K> yea
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08:23 * electrohead waves
08:41 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
08:46 <Ampera> is it fucking cold down there?
08:52 <electrohead> yeah man, it's fucking cold here
08:59 <Ampera> we have a high of 14 and a low of 0 here
09:23 <Ampera> not the coldest it's ever been, I've seen -20 a couple times here
09:24 <electrohead> I had to return the cat I got from the shelter, today
09:26 <electrohead> :(
09:30 <Ysjoelfir> y
09:30 <Ampera> oh shit, what happened
09:55 <electrohead> he was pissing everywhere, and yesterday he pissed back in my lab area, just a few feet away from my server(s)
09:57 <electrohead> >.<
10:05 <electrohead> I tried so hard with him
10:18 <electrohead> but, I'm in an apartment, and can't have a cat ruined my place
10:20 <electrohead> :/
10:23 <Ampera> quite strange
10:27 <electrohead> sad panda is sad.
10:34 <Ampera> they usually do that when they're incredibly uncomfortable about their surroundings
10:37 <Ampera> do you have any other pets?
10:43 <electrohead> yeah, one other cat
10:50 <Ampera> how well did they interact
10:55 <electrohead> and she was the one hissing at him, yet he tried to make friends with her
11:02 <Ampera> yeah that's probably why
11:08 <Ampera> some cats just don't deal with other cats full stop
11:24 <electrohead> she was in a complete different room though, when he decided to trot back to the lab and piss on the carpet >.<
11:34 <Ampera> doesn't matter, cats are weird like that
11:41 <Ampera> claiming territory and what not
11:51 <Ampera> in which case, as sad as it is, returning the cat to the shelter is among the better options
11:52 <electrohead> yeah, that was my first experience with that
12:03 <electrohead> they weren't too happy at the shelter
12:08 <Ampera> We have three cats, bought about a couple years from each other
12:24 <Ampera> we basically just lobbed them together and they've been miraculously good with each other
12:59 <electrohead> I'm going to miss him, other than him pissing everywhere, he was an awesome cat. he slept with me and everything
03:59 * Ysjoelfir offers his catter as compensation.
04:51 <Ysjoelfir> You know, the one that wakes you up at 5 in the morning after you went to bed at 2:30, just to... well, just to know you're awake and not in that closed sleeping room he isn't allowed to enter
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28:37 <TheDude> o/
28:54 <steve30> hi
28:55 <Andre> hi
29:00 <steve30> Power cut again
29:30 <TheDude> sooooo
30:00 <TheDude> have y'all been reading about stuff around gamestop stock? :D
38:40 * steve30 has no idea what Gamestop is
39:20 <TheDude> it's a chain of stores that sell computer/console games and related products
39:47 <TheDude> their business has been dwindling lately, because of how popular online game stores like Steam have become
40:10 <TheDude> and on the stock market, big investment funds have been shorting their stock into oblivion
40:36 <TheDude> and a bunch of people decided to squeeze them out
41:03 <TheDude> a massive school of tiny fish decided to eat a whale, essentially
41:28 <TheDude> and they were very successful in doing so, because the stock that was worth $2.70 or so half a year ago
41:41 <TheDude> has been pumped up to over $400
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42:58 <TheDude> and that caused the investment funds to lose billions
43:42 <TheDude> and the cunts decided to fight back by forcing the company that runs the popular investing app that allows you to buy partial shares to disable buying of GME stock
44:05 <TheDude> and forcefully liquidate people's positions just after the funds put new shorts into place
44:32 <TheDude> if this shit doesn't land a number of people into jail, I don't know what will
46:58 <Ampera> gamestop isn't going under because of steam
47:03 <Ampera> gamestop is going under because they're fucking assholes
47:35 <Ampera> however you are very late on that news, we've been talking about it for a couple days or so
47:41 <TheDude> one of the reasons why they're losing so much market share is definitely because buying games on the internet and downloading them directly is MUCH more convenient
47:52 <TheDude> Ampera, nope
47:56 <TheDude> the first part, yes
48:06 <Ampera> wha
48:15 <Ampera> we have been talking about it for a couple days though...
48:21 <TheDude> robinhood disabling the buy option for GME and other WSB stocks is new
48:30 <Ampera> that happened yesterday
48:32 <TheDude> yes
48:40 <Ampera> >couple days, today and yesterday
49:02 <TheDude> "hurr durr, that was yesterday's news, we already discussed that, can't talk about it now"
49:24 <Ampera> I don't make the rules, merely bash people over the head with them
50:39 <TheDude> what is more interesting is the fact that many people just now realized just how much power the little fish has in the market
51:32 <TheDude> and how very fucking crooked the existing financial system is
51:47 <TheDude> this is literally history in the making
52:00 <TheDude> the will be writing books about current events in a couple of decades, I guarantee it
52:14 <Ampera> that's usually how history works
52:41 <TheDude> let me enjoy the moment, you little shit
53:11 <Ampera> did you have any pre-hike stock in GME?
53:27 <TheDude> nah, I don't have robinhood
53:32 <Ampera> ...
53:39 <Ampera> you don't need robinhood to trade stock
53:48 <Ampera> they're one broker among dozens
53:59 <TheDude> no, but among the options that were possible, it was one of the cheapest
54:13 <Ampera> what does that have to do with having GME stock
54:21 <TheDude> stock brokers in general are the middle men we don't need
54:38 <Ampera> then why did you mention one at all
55:02 <TheDude> because you need one to buy stock as an individual here
55:23 <Ampera> you need one to buy stock as an individual here as well, to the best of my knowledge
55:35 <Ampera> unless you somehow get a line into the stock exchange itself
55:43 <coppice> TheDude: trading on robbing hood is free, because you are not the customer
56:21 <TheDude> yup, makes sense
56:53 <TheDude> I look forward to seeing how the class action lawsuit is going to unfold in the near future
59:35 <TheDude> on a completely unrelated topic
59:47 <TheDude> I bought a USB 3.0 microSD card reader today
00:13 <TheDude> so I can put the zynq shit directly onto the card from the computer that's doing the compiling
00:29 <steve30> ooh, I could probably do with a USB 3 card reader
01:33 <TheDude> because until now, the process went like this: create the files, archive them, put into shared folder of VM, move from host machine shared folder to dropbox, put the SD card into the laptop and copy from the dropbox folder and unzip onto the card
01:44 <TheDude> incredibly tedious
02:06 <TheDude> anyhow, I'm rather pleased with how the USB device can be directly passed to the VM
02:30 <TheDude> zero hassle, the mass storage device just disappears on the host machine when you start the VM
02:32 <TheDude> and it's there
02:43 <TheDude> zero fuss
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53:04 <c0rnbr34d> have I missed anything?
54:06 <c0rnbr34d> My blood presure is so high im going to urgent care today
54:11 <c0rnbr34d> wish me luck boys
54:20 <Ampera> good luck
54:28 <Ampera> if you get a pinhole wound try not to rocket blood all over the place
54:32 <Ampera> it'd make a mess
54:35 <c0rnbr34d> agreed
54:42 <c0rnbr34d> no idea why this is the case
54:56 <c0rnbr34d> my diet is okay and I dont work out which is no help
55:07 <c0rnbr34d> but im 18, 6ft, 140 pounds
55:12 <c0rnbr34d> not old or overweight
55:26 <Ampera> it annoys me that I'm older than you are.
55:32 <c0rnbr34d> how so?
55:44 <Ampera> because, being 19, most everyone else is older than I am in here
55:53 <c0rnbr34d> :)
55:55 <Ampera> and to know that there are now people younger than me is annoying
56:08 <c0rnbr34d> sorry bub
56:22 <c0rnbr34d> are you in school?
56:37 <Ampera> thank fuck no
56:43 <c0rnbr34d> good
57:01 <c0rnbr34d> are you going into EE? or just a hobbiest?
57:07 <Ampera> neither
57:11 <Ampera> I don't know anything about electronics
57:14 <c0rnbr34d> why are you here?
57:21 <Ampera> nobody's told me to leave yet
57:24 <c0rnbr34d> kek
57:25 <c0rnbr34d> alright
57:30 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, please leave
57:31 <c0rnbr34d> how did you end up here?
57:45 <Ampera> well
57:48 <Ampera> I joined the channel
57:51 <Ampera> and uh
57:55 <Ampera> that's how I ended up here
58:15 <c0rnbr34d> evvblog is not small... but its not yt recommened front page
58:25 <c0rnbr34d> I found daves videos through search results
58:35 <c0rnbr34d> what exactly were you searching for?
58:40 <Ampera> I found him the way I find most channels, video reccomendations
58:42 <Ampera> years ago
58:45 <Ampera> probably five years ago or so
58:49 <c0rnbr34d> intresting
58:57 <c0rnbr34d> have you been lurking here for 5 years?
59:04 <Ampera> no
59:09 <Ampera> I joined the forum first
59:23 <Ampera> then some asshole decided there weren't enough assholes in the old AfterNET channel, and invited me
59:30 <TheDude> Ampera, how's it going, old timer?
59:33 <Ampera> then some boogaloo happened and this channel was formed
59:39 <Ampera> TheDude, fine, grandpa
59:53 <c0rnbr34d> ic
00:56 <Ampera> I'm in computing, software development and QA
01:02 <c0rnbr34d> havent been on the form at all, is the a toslink hate thread somewhere
01:09 <c0rnbr34d> software QA I take it?
01:24 <Ampera> yes, the and included software
02:04 <c0rnbr34d> I did hardware QA at my last job, made a lot of ECOs that got ignored. Hows the software side of things?
02:27 <Ampera> I get to write tests for software with no written specifications
02:42 <Ampera> so I basically get to make shit up as I go along and pretend it's the way it's supposed to be, then complain that it's not the way it's supposed to be
02:54 <c0rnbr34d> nice
03:03 <TheDude> I get to explain elementary school level physics to an indian bloke today
03:11 <TheDude> he calls himself an engineer
03:19 <c0rnbr34d> what programing/scripting languages do you work with?
03:19 <TheDude> got*
03:25 <c0rnbr34d> software eng I imagine?
03:44 <Ampera> For work? C# almost exclusively. In general, I've worked with Java and C as well
03:50 <TheDude> mechanical, possibly, idk
04:03 <c0rnbr34d> jezz
04:10 <c0rnbr34d> what did you have to explain>?
04:35 <TheDude> so we're the supplier of an electric drive system for this indian company that wants to make electric scooters
04:45 <TheDude> and we're doing a custom system for them
04:54 <TheDude> and we implemented hill hold
05:17 <c0rnbr34d> okay
05:24 <TheDude> and one of the CAN messages that they're supposed to be sending us from the VCU is the slope angle
05:32 <c0rnbr34d> VCU?
05:37 <TheDude> vehicle control unit
05:52 <c0rnbr34d> ah
06:01 <TheDude> the computer box with the display and whatnot
06:05 <c0rnbr34d> sure
06:16 <TheDude> it communicates with out motor controller through CAN
06:26 <c0rnbr34d> okay
06:35 <TheDude> anyhow, they're supposed to be sending us the slope angle in regular messages over CAN
06:53 <c0rnbr34d> the indian guy didnt understand this?
06:57 <TheDude> the hill hold works even with those messages just sending out zeros instead of the correct angle
07:04 <TheDude> but the user experience suffers
07:15 <c0rnbr34d> that makes sense
07:22 <TheDude> because when HH is engaged, the vehicle creeps back slightly initially
07:49 <TheDude> if you know the angle, you can preset the initial torque to the regulator that's doing the holding
08:04 <TheDude> so you get very little to no creep back when it engages
08:07 <c0rnbr34d> dosent this vary bassed on passanger weight?
08:13 <TheDude> it does
08:23 <c0rnbr34d> but its a closer aprox I assume
08:23 <TheDude> we prime it for minimum vehicle load
08:32 <c0rnbr34d> okay
08:50 <TheDude> that way you don't get weird results even with next to nothing on the bike
09:08 <TheDude> but the regulator ramps up the torque pretty quickly after it starts working
09:18 <c0rnbr34d> that makes sense
09:23 <TheDude> it's just that if it starts from zero, it takes a bit to wind up the torque and get it to stop
09:28 <TheDude> okay
09:39 <c0rnbr34d> so your job is to make sure it works if theres no slope data?
09:50 <TheDude> so he said that they were testing the functionality and were not sure how to compare the difference between reporting the angle and not doing it
09:56 <TheDude> and if we could clarify that for them
10:10 <TheDude> I wrote a test case which gave a clear comparison for the two
10:24 <TheDude> with maximum permitted load, and a 15% incline
10:48 <TheDude> so basically the edge case which would yield the biggest results
11:07 <c0rnbr34d> the case with the highest load?
11:17 <TheDude> yeah
11:34 <c0rnbr34d> the eng did not undestand this?
11:46 <TheDude> okay, so with their thingamajig reporting the right value, the result was a creep back of 16mm
12:02 <TheDude> basically imperceptible to the rider, imo
12:14 <TheDude> with no angle reported, the result was 131mm
12:34 <TheDude> something that would likely make you second guess if the hill hold is actually working
12:40 <TheDude> so
12:44 <TheDude> the next question was
13:10 <TheDude> "is there a relation between the creep back, inclination angle and weight?"
13:24 <TheDude> this, coming from an engineer
13:27 <TheDude> what the everloving fuck
13:47 <c0rnbr34d> thats unfortanate
14:23 <c0rnbr34d> maybe he thought the motor could be locked and didnt realise you were countertorquing?
14:34 <TheDude> it took an immense amount of self restraint not to reply in a patronizing manner
14:42 <c0rnbr34d> like with a brushless motor how you can hold the rotor in place
14:53 <TheDude> no, he couldn't have thought that
15:05 <c0rnbr34d> is he stupid?
15:06 <TheDude> we've been working on this project with them for over a year now
15:07 <TheDude> yes
15:12 <c0rnbr34d> lol
15:30 <c0rnbr34d> guess the bars not that high...
15:35 <c0rnbr34d> is this in the US?
15:38 <TheDude> it certainly isn't
15:40 <TheDude> no
15:45 <c0rnbr34d> where are you?
15:50 <TheDude> we're in europe, they're indian
15:54 <c0rnbr34d> *generally ofc*
15:57 <c0rnbr34d> ah
16:01 <c0rnbr34d> thats wierd
16:10 <TheDude> not really
16:18 <TheDude> they want to make electric bikes for their market
16:28 <TheDude> they can't source the technology locally, hence they come to us
16:44 <c0rnbr34d> im surpised they cant
16:56 <c0rnbr34d> how did you get the job?
17:34 <TheDude> are you asking about my employment with the company I'm working at or how the company got them as a customer?
18:08 <c0rnbr34d> ohh
18:10 <c0rnbr34d> I understand
18:17 <c0rnbr34d> your company was contracted
18:26 <c0rnbr34d> I was asking how you got your position
18:42 <TheDude> yes, we're the supplier for their drive system
18:46 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Connection closed
18:54 <TheDude> the electric motor + the motor controller
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19:24 <c0rnbr34d> gotcha
19:24 <TheDude> the company is local and I got their sponsorship as I started studying electrical engineering
19:28 <TheDude> now I work for them
19:37 <c0rnbr34d> thier sponsorship?
19:40 <TheDude> be back in a jiff
19:44 <c0rnbr34d> k
19:48 <TheDude> I'll explain in a minute
19:52 <c0rnbr34d> okay
20:01 <c0rnbr34d> I need to drive to urgent care anyhow
20:09 <c0rnbr34d> will probably be afk for 15min
22:29 <TheDude> hey
22:52 <TheDude> I don't want to stall you, I can tell you about it another day, if you'd still be interested
22:57 <TheDude> take care of your health first
26:44 <c0rnbr34d> no, no, its just fine, I just gotta drive over then im gonna bring my laptop into the lobby so the waits not so boring
26:45 <c0rnbr34d> ill brb
27:02 <Kuschelpony> for these who dont understand german language: the british mutation of the virus is spreading rapidly in belgium https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/britische-mutante-breitet-sich-rasant-in-belgien-aus-17172184.html
30:48 Quit: c0rnbr34d ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
33:26 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
57:27 <electrohead> o/
57:34 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. head
57:45 <electrohead> hey man
57:53 * electrohead offers beer, courtesy of the store
02:31 <Ysjoelfir> oh yes, polease!
05:31 <electrohead> :D
05:37 <electrohead> how have you been?
05:51 <electrohead> any updates about that sh'tuff as of recent?
13:36 <Ysjoelfir> which one?
17:32 * Ampera hugs electrohead hard
24:53 <electrohead> the person of interest
24:54 <electrohead> lol
25:01 * electrohead hards Ampera hug
25:22 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
25:35 <electrohead> I'm doing, you?
25:56 <Ampera> gearing up to sleep in 95 minutes
26:08 <Ampera> tomorrow I have an appointment to get back on HRT
31:35 <electrohead> oh nice
31:42 <electrohead> I work until 9 tonight
32:01 <electrohead> so, won't be going to bed for a bit, yet :p
34:34 * Ysjoelfir is still wondering which stuff of recent mr. head was refering to
34:49 <Ysjoelfir> the potential new employer stuff?
37:48 <electrohead> nah, the guy you were looking into
41:12 <Ysjoelfir> aaaaah. after I compiled my research resulty my cousin talked to his brother and they noticed themselves already that the guy is dangerous, and according to him they decided to distance themselves as much as possibvle since a few weeks
41:37 <Ysjoelfir> especially since he posted more and more extreme right stuff in his facebook, calling for riots and stuff
41:45 <Ysjoelfir> because "the system" is fucking everyone and whatnot
42:30 <electrohead> heh
42:39 <electrohead> crazy be crazy :p
56:18 <T3sl4> it's a shame that the alt-right is somewhat justified in their anger... yet they aren't smart enough to direct it towards its actual cause
02:24 <Ysjoelfir> true indeed
10:20 * Halcyon coughs as electrohead 
10:22 <Halcyon> *at
10:39 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/
10:41 * Ampera attack-coughs at Halcyon 
10:45 <Halcyon> YAY!
10:47 <Halcyon> Herro Ampera
10:57 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
11:10 <Ysjoelfir> Woah, Halcyon, who did this miracle? :D
11:22 <Halcyon> :P
11:39 <Halcyon> I'm doing OK, I knocked myself out with a sleeping tablet last night, I feel much better today, cold almost all gone.
11:49 <Ampera> that's a shame
11:55 <Halcyon> :P
12:00 <Ampera> you deserve misery, I wish the cold had lasted longer
12:17 <Halcyon> You are such a bitch
12:22 <Halcyon> Always hating me
12:39 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, you should add your chicken boob recipe
12:53 <Ysjoelfir> I am already working on that :P
12:54 <Ampera> I'm going to a pp clinic tomorrow to restart HRT
12:57 <Halcyon> Hehehe
13:05 <Halcyon> Very good Ampera
13:13 <Ampera> it is?
13:16 <Ampera> I thought it was a sin
13:19 <Ampera> darn :/
13:29 <Halcyon> Pfft, sins
13:44 <Ampera> oh yeah, if this is how bad real life is, I wouldn't want to go to hell
13:49 <Ampera> I'd kill myself if I was in hell
13:53 <Halcyon> I need to change my sheets, I must have been sweating like a pig last night, I woke up all moist
13:54 <Ampera> then I'd end up in hell's hell
14:16 * Ampera licks Halcyon's moisture off his sheets
14:23 <Halcyon> Ew
14:33 <Ampera> tastes like discount russian
14:37 <Halcyon> Hahahaaha
15:03 * electrohead pokes Halcyon and hides
15:17 <Halcyon> :P
16:00 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, which chicken boob recipe did you have in mind? I send you at least two with chicken boob^^
16:09 <Ysjoelfir> *sent
16:19 <Ampera> doesn't it have to be an original recipe?
16:39 <Halcyon> Define original recipe
16:47 <Ampera> one invented by the poster
16:52 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, I dunno? Both, as long as we know what they are? Chicken boob curry?
17:04 <Halcyon> Nah not necessarily, most recipes are adapted from others
17:16 <Ampera> As I said, I have recipes, just no measurements
17:20 <Ampera> since I never measure anything
17:29 <Ampera> or use recipes for that matter
17:37 <Halcyon> Well I refrained from setting any rules, go nuts Ampera, but you said you didn't care so *shrug*
17:38 <rust_collector> indian butterless chicken with butter added
17:48 <rust_collector> use all the butters
17:55 <rust_collector> not much chicken
18:05 <Ampera> I said I didn't care because I was told I /had/ to include measurements
18:54 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
19:13 <Halcyon> Do whatever you want Ampera, I don't care
19:25 <rust_collector> hey-o
20:11 <Halcyon> :P
21:21 <rust_collector> I am cooking food right now
21:33 <rust_collector> very exciting
21:51 <Ysjoelfir> my butterboob recipe? :P
22:07 <rust_collector> do you want with measurements?
22:24 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, I assume I should replace the Boobs with breasts in my recipe to not offend the moderators? :P
22:32 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, however you like?
22:32 * electrohead puts butter on Ysjoelfir's boobs
22:38 <Ysjoelfir> aww <3
22:42 <electrohead> <3
22:44 <electrohead> lol
22:46 <rust_collector> Ok, I take 1pcs pizza, ovenify it
23:54 <rust_collector> oh, butter. that is a great idea. it will keep your nipples from bleeding so quickly
26:20 <electrohead> it's that cold out here, that if you buttered my nipples, it would harden instantly outside
26:43 <rust_collector> you don't need butter for that
26:50 <Ysjoelfir> I replaced my thick blanket this night with my thin summer blanket...
27:49 <rust_collector> I think I will keep my duvet.
28:08 <rust_collector> if it gets much colder, I might close the window a bit
33:28 <steve30> hi Halcyon
39:07 <Ampera> Halcyon, AND THEN THERE WERE TWO https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/experimental-stir-fry-no-1/
39:09 * Ampera pets the steve30 
40:51 <Halcyon> \o/
41:27 <Ampera> I tuned down the sarcastic idiocy from the version on my website
41:33 <Ampera> and added some suggested amounts for some of the ingredients
41:56 <Ampera> Of course, in his excellency's units
42:20 <Ampera> which is apparently the official diplomatic address for the president of the united states
43:38 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, should I replace the boobs in my text with breasts to not offend the mods? :P
44:25 <rust_collector> nah, just pretend you are a foreigner, and hitler did not mind people calling them chicken boobs
44:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol
44:35 <Halcyon> Boob is fine
44:42 <Halcyon> I think Simon will see the humour
45:39 <steve30> dammit, I think I killed something in this camcorder
47:13 <steve30> ooh, a new off-topic forum
47:30 <Halcyon> :)
47:30 * electrohead fondles Halcyon's boobs
47:33 <Halcyon> :D
47:37 <electrohead> :P
47:52 <Ampera> I wish I had boobs for someone to fondle
48:39 <Halcyon> Reminds me of an old TV commercial growing up as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuQAN2SMbiY
48:53 * electrohead fondles Ampera's lack of boobs
49:19 <Ampera> Halcyon, putting that on the list I'm compiling for congress as to why Australia should be nuked
49:28 <Halcyon> :P
50:24 * steve30 hisses at the magic smoke
51:00 <rust_collector> Ampera, don't write down all the reasons, no one would want to read more than 3-4 pages
51:19 <Halcyon> What happened steve30 ?
51:28 <Ampera> dude, I already have around 350 pages, rust_collector
51:33 <Ampera> that's literally a percent of what I wanted to submit
52:14 <rust_collector> butt... well, ok, I guess they have people employed to read that
52:25 <steve30> Well, no actual magic smoke, but I managed to blow a couple of fuses
52:41 <rust_collector> what are you doing in there?
54:32 * steve30 fancies some more food
00:12 <Halcyon> I just had coffee
03:12 * Ampera drinks Halcyon's coffee straight from his stomach
03:24 <Halcyon> :P
03:32 <Ampera> how is your bird
03:45 <Halcyon> He is good
03:51 <Halcyon> We have a pigeon now too
03:56 <Ampera> I hugged my bunny today
03:58 <Ampera> as a pet?
04:07 <Halcyon> Well, he has been hanging around outside for a week
04:13 <Halcyon> Sleeps here, will eat from your hand
04:16 <Halcyon> So *shrug*
04:24 <Ampera> here they're considered rats with wings
04:44 <Halcyon> We don't have too many of them here
05:54 * steve30 meows at Jerry
06:23 * Ampera feeds Jerry to steve30 
10:07 <Halcyon> >:(
10:27 * Ampera feeds Halcyon to steve30 
11:00 * T3sl4 preens Halcyon
11:20 <Halcyon> :D
11:42 <T3sl4> how's the snotfactory?
13:00 <Halcyon> Better
13:02 <Halcyon> I slept for 12 hours
13:13 <Halcyon> Still coughing but I can breathe today
13:22 * Ampera breaths at Halcyon 
13:27 <Ampera> *breathes
13:29 <Halcyon> Why do I smell dog food?
13:45 <Ampera> my rotting insides
13:50 <Halcyon> Yummo
14:13 * Ampera vomits pestilence all over Halcyon 
15:16 <T3sl4> well, you can smell at all still, i guess that's a good sign
15:30 * Ampera is looking at demos on youtube
16:33 <Ampera> maybe I should get back into playing touhou, I used to play them a while ago
17:21 <Ysjoelfir> its so cute how people complain about the new section, being like "I don't want to see this, but my RSS feed shows me EVERYTHING, and there are already two topics which annoys the fuck out of me!!!!!!11111one"
17:36 <Halcyon> Yeh I know, it's impossible to keep everyone happy
17:57 <Ysjoelfir> I should post a thord topic now, just because I can and because it annoye people :)
18:04 <T3sl4> that sounds horrible. who would want to subscribe to literally everything
18:15 <Ysjoelfir> damn, my typing is flawed today
18:16 <Halcyon> Surely you can limit the RSS feed to what you want?
19:17 <Ysjoelfir> if you can't, you can always create a small script that reads your RSS, filter that using your script, and create a new one with only the content you prefer.
25:21 Join: JoePublic ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
25:33 <rust_collector> I don't think I would want to read a forum like that, using an rss reader
25:50 <Halcyon> Each to their own I suppose
25:54 <rust_collector> sure.
26:00 <T3sl4> that sounds like arsse
26:09 * Halcyon toots at T3sl4 
26:22 * T3sl4 prosti-toots Halcyon
26:29 <Halcyon> Oh gawd
26:44 <JoePublic> wot have I just walked into..?
26:51 <Halcyon> JoePublic, don't ask :P
27:17 <rust_collector> I hope you brought your own lube. have fun
27:25 <JoePublic> It's Ed.Kloonk. I wuz too lazy to fix the login
27:32 <Halcyon> Oh hey Ed, welcome
27:49 <Halcyon> I think if you type /nick EdKloonk it should change it
28:21 <Halcyon> I don't use the client on the webpage so I don't know if all the commands work
28:38 <JoePublic> Nup. No change.
28:47 Quit: JoePublic ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
29:10 <rust_collector> that was some change...
29:17 <Ysjoelfir> lo
29:17 <Ysjoelfir> l
29:42 Join: Edkloonk (Ed.KloonkX`[email protected]) to #EEVblog
29:47 <Halcyon> YAY, better
29:59 <Edkloonk> Doesn't like dots in the uname
30:08 <Halcyon> That's pretty standard I think
31:27 <Halcyon> I might make a tea
31:59 <Ysjoelfir> I have some.
32:03 * electrohead kloonk's Edkloonk
32:14 * Ysjoelfir hands Halcyon some earl grey with sweetener and milk
32:18 <Ysjoelfir> basically an earl beige
32:19 <Halcyon> Ew
32:27 <Halcyon> Lavendar with milk?
32:39 <rust_collector> no, tea
32:40 <Halcyon> I have some Rassssspberry tea somewhere, I'll have that
32:43 <Ysjoelfir> wutt? you don't like earl beige?
32:44 <electrohead> I'm ready to go home already
33:22 <Halcyon> Edkloonk, we were just discussing the off-topic forum, seems some people aren't happy about it
33:23 <Ysjoelfir> Bring some beer with you
33:30 <rust_collector> I am home already, my shift ends in 26 minutes
33:40 * Ysjoelfir doesn't care about some unhappy people
33:59 <rust_collector> make them suffer, lol
34:02 * Ysjoelfir does instead cares about the kitty poop he smells and is disgusted by >_> brb
34:02 <electrohead> lol
34:20 <electrohead> I'll definitely be taking some beer home with me
34:31 <T3sl4> aww, someone left you a present Ysjoelfir
36:14 <Ysjoelfir> No, steve30 was just lazy
36:28 Quit: pa1983 ([email protected]) Connection closed
36:31 <Edkloonk> re off-topic, I just worry for people who are too used to FB and twitter curating out what they don't want to see
37:29 <Ysjoelfir> I am very happy that I don't have to care with all that social media shit anymore
38:17 <Ysjoelfir> was enough hassle to delete that shit^^
39:29 <Edkloonk> I never used FB. Only had an account for read only to follow speedway rider news
39:58 <Halcyon> I don't use social media at all
40:03 <Halcyon> This is as close as it gets
40:19 <T3sl4> i have fb just to keep up with friends
40:30 * Halcyon double-teabags T3sl4 
40:35 <T3sl4> don't have any groups on there
40:40 <Halcyon> I made a big mug of Raspberry tea :)
40:48 * T3sl4 puts Halcyon in hot water
40:52 <T3sl4> nice :)
41:45 <Halcyon> I want to buy one of those GoTek floppy emulators
41:54 <T3sl4> flemulator
41:57 <T3sl4> phlegmulator
41:59 <Halcyon> But they have like 15 different models, no idea why
42:05 * electrohead emulates Halcyon's floppy
42:18 <Halcyon> All this attention :P
42:26 <electrohead> yeah, no social media here as well, just like Halcyon, this is the most I do, get on IRC
42:32 <electrohead> and lol, you love it :P
42:49 <Edkloonk> Blood pressure pills... Floppy
43:43 <Edkloonk> The last time I was on IRC, it was 2009
44:07 <Halcyon> I miss the good old days of IRC
44:11 <Halcyon> Thousands of users
44:32 * Ysjoelfir hands Edkloonk a proper IRC client and advises him to stay here
45:34 <Halcyon> Yes, join us, it's not ALL about T3sl4 talking about butts and bollocks
45:46 <Edkloonk> * Ed warns Ysj.. that Ed has no filter
45:57 <Halcyon> Hah, even more reason to stay
46:06 <T3sl4> also, /me action
46:16 <T3sl4> and yeah, sometimes it's Halcyon talking about cocks
46:21 <Halcyon> True
46:27 <T3sl4> like his pet cock...atiel
46:31 <rust_collector> sometimes?
46:33 <Halcyon> Hahaha
46:41 <T3sl4> or, er, whatever Jerry is if not that, i forget?
46:50 <Halcyon> Yes, Jerry is a cockatiel
46:51 <Edkloonk> FYI clicking name button (to the left) brings up nick change dialog
47:05 <Halcyon> Oh, there you go
47:09 <Halcyon> I just use Hexchat
47:39 <Halcyon> Heh, I like this guys name: Wuerstchenhund
47:46 <Ysjoelfir> I use AdiIRC. Free and looks nice oldschool
48:48 <Halcyon> Oh nice
48:51 <Halcyon> I like how it looks
49:06 <Halcyon> I could just install mIRC under Wine :P
49:30 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/UZiGrv.jpg
49:48 <Ysjoelfir> You have a perfectly fitting color in my theme, Halcyon
49:59 <Halcyon> Hahahaa
50:44 <rust_collector> I think I prefer irssi. but i use hexchat on this thing
50:54 <rust_collector> I do use irssi on the phone
51:05 <Ysjoelfir> I looked at it and I kind of see why
51:07 Join: ed_kloonk ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
51:49 <rust_collector> it was mostly because irc clients for android sucks, so I used a non-android one
52:04 <Halcyon> I would be so distracted if I had IRC on my phone
52:46 <rust_collector> I only use it every other day, when I am waiting to get loaded in shit town
52:55 <rust_collector> it is not on, most of the time
53:18 <ed_kloonk> OK. Hexchat working. Had to boost font size from 9 to 20000
53:57 <Halcyon> Heh
54:13 <Halcyon> I probably should go finish some work so I can have the rest of the day to do nothing, I've procrastinated enough
54:21 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
54:28 <rust_collector> you can do that tomorrow
54:45 <Halcyon> Nah I can't. I promised I'd have something finished today which I need to email off
54:54 <Halcyon> It's for a court trial starting soon, so kind of important
55:09 <rust_collector> blah blah blah
55:12 <Halcyon> :P
55:19 <rust_collector> important for who?
55:27 <Halcyon> The officer in charge
55:31 <Halcyon> Well, I guess the public as a whole
56:03 <rust_collector> mmhmm. I think the population as a whole will be ok
56:06 <Halcyon> This guy killed a lady, still haven't found the body but he is being charged with her murder
56:17 <electrohead> oh damn
56:26 <rust_collector> maybe she was less than nice
56:32 <Halcyon> *shrug*
57:13 <rust_collector> did you look in the fridge?
57:16 <Halcyon> I've so far written a 56 page experts report on the stuff I found on his devices and still going
57:30 <rust_collector> oof
57:32 <Halcyon> Hehe, I'm scared to look in my fridge
58:22 <Halcyon> Anyways, back soon
58:57 <ed_kloonk> bye
59:10 <Ysjoelfir> cu hulkion
59:23 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, a question for my favourite mechanic.
59:29 <rust_collector> have fun, mr " I do important things for everyone in th eworld"
59:34 <rust_collector> oh
01:08 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, try with a hammer
01:29 <Ysjoelfir> I have a small Röhm Supra drillchuck with morse taper 1. I restored that thing and its pretty nice and smooth now. you know that my lathe is pretty short, so I would love to have as much travel in the tailstock as possible, so using a MT1 to MT2 adapter is not the best idea. instead I got a B12 to MT2 taper.... thing. Question I have now is.... how the hell do I get the B12 out of the chuck?
01:36 <Edkloonk> I'm never afraid to wheel out the oxy
01:58 <Ysjoelfir> its not locked in by a screw, its just friction I THINK. and maybe a bit of rust. is there a trick to remove that?
02:23 <rust_collector> it is probably just shrunk into the thing
03:14 <electrohead> sounds like it requires percussive maintenance
04:25 <rust_collector> you can try to put a nut inside the chuck, and hold it in place with the jaw things, then screw a bolt in there. but they are probably very well stuck
04:37 <Ysjoelfir> that could well be. do you think putting it into the freezer overnight, then blasting the chuck with a blowtorch should help?
05:07 <rust_collector> it would not get any worse
07:38 <rust_collector> the ones I can find pics of, just has a short taper that goes into the chuck. if you can see the end of the tapered part inside, just be evil, or use a press
11:42 <ed_kloonk> I'm out for lunch, since cook is MIA and hyclon's hairy tea bag makes we want a salad
12:59 Quit: Edkloonk (Ed.KloonkX`[email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
17:15 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I can see the end of the taper inside after I disassembled the top. tried using a bearing puller but that cheap thing just bent xD I'll tra banging on the end of that thing with a hammer tomorrow, and if that doesn't work I'll try heating it up.
19:01 <rust_collector> I do think it should pop out without too much violence. best would probably to stick it in a press, and if that doesn't work, heat while it is pushing
19:28 <Ysjoelfir> a Press is a thing that is on my to get list. But I don't have one yet.
19:36 <rust_collector> grrrr
20:02 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
20:06 <rust_collector> ok, forget those little 30 ton ones, get a proper one
20:21 <Ysjoelfir> remember that I don't have much space
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about a spindle press, those are rather small and should work for small things I do
20:47 <rust_collector> yes
21:53 <Ysjoelfir> before I thought such a thing might be great, but I think that is TO small. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Grose-Drehdornpresse-Handhebelpresse-WABECO-Top-Qualitat/154309622604?hash=item23ed91fb4c:g:qOcAAOSw~-dgEvy3
21:55 <rust_collector> a 2 or 4 ton one of those would be pretty handy.
22:49 <Ysjoelfir> I would like to use it as well to punch holes in sheetmetal as I have a set of dies and punches, so it should at least be able to have like... 150mm deep material inserted.
24:09 <rust_collector> I thought about using the steering rack from some car, to make somehting like that. it makes almost no sense
24:33 <Ysjoelfir> heh. but I can see how that could work. would be a nice proof of concept thing^^
24:50 <rust_collector> gears and stuff tends to be sort of expensive, so it could be worth it
25:15 <rust_collector> otoh, when you have built a little press like that, it will outlast you
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26:49 <Ysjoelfir> true
27:20 <rust_collector> här är snigel. Vad gör man me de?
29:12 <Ysjoelfir> wutt? Er du en snegle?
29:37 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GfT5lXVMTs
29:39 <rust_collector> well.
29:46 <Ysjoelfir> hey, I like that idea - https://www.ebay.de/itm/DESTACO-P55-Hydraulikpresse-Werkstattpresse-Lagerprese-PRESSE-ca-60-Bar-5000-PSI/373444057996?hash=item56f3001b8c%3Ag%3Ag7gAAOSwcddf4xm~&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C10%7C7000%7C1500
29:52 <rust_collector> some times internet
30:04 <Ysjoelfir> lool^^
31:23 <rust_collector> I guess that would work, but... I would break it pretty quick
31:54 <rust_collector> I like the guys name, dr vlad 31 (32)
32:06 <Ysjoelfir> :P
34:06 <rust_collector> björne was on the swedish kids tv show, and snigel was... also
35:31 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qO5rs2YgXY
36:58 <Ysjoelfir> aww :)
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37:25 <Ysjoelfir> that is cute :D I like that
37:35 <rust_collector> ok
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39:11 <electrohead> https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ad5xp/we-spoke-to-a-guy-who-got-his-dick-locked-in-a-cage-by-a-hacker
39:13 <electrohead> lmfao
40:07 <Halcyon> OK, I think I'm about done
40:11 <Halcyon> My head hurts
41:23 <Halcyon> electrohead, funny you should mention that. We did research into sex toys at work years ago (IoT vibrators) and worked out how easy it is to connect to their cameras/microphones
41:44 <electrohead> wait, some IoT sex toys have microphones and cameras?
41:47 <electrohead> o.o
41:52 <Halcyon> Yes, yes they do
42:16 <Halcyon> https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sex-toy-bluetooth-hacks-security-fix
42:17 <electrohead> fucking why?
42:31 <electrohead> I do remember the butt plug that got hacked
42:46 <Halcyon> I guess some people want to see other people's insides?
42:53 <electrohead> >.<
43:13 <Halcyon> Hey, it's a thing. There is a "genre" of sex toys out there for everything and anything
43:13 <electrohead> you know.. my curiosity is pegging, now
43:16 <electrohead> (pardon the pun)
43:22 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
43:33 <Halcyon> Well done, T3sl4 would be proud
43:39 <electrohead> lmfao
43:49 <electrohead> wait, why him?
43:56 <Halcyon> Oh he is full of puns
44:00 <electrohead> oh oh, ok
44:07 <electrohead> I thought it was going to be for a different reason
44:09 <electrohead> lol
44:17 <Halcyon> Well, it could be? I haven't ruled that out either.
44:22 <electrohead> :P
44:32 <electrohead> I'm curious now about what all is out there
44:43 <electrohead> I'll look on amazon/ebay/whatever later on once I get home
44:45 <electrohead> heh
44:49 <rust_collector> whatever you pay someone to make
45:29 <coppice> I always loved queries from sex toy makers. Your colleagues usually find the idea of supplying them a bit iffy, and then they see the quantities and just want to sell every part they can :)
45:56 <Halcyon> Really?
46:12 <Halcyon> I mean, I would imagine it's a pretty huge market
46:16 <T3sl4> Halcyon: my interests lie in the intersection of puns and butt jokes
46:47 <T3sl4> the crotch, you might say
46:53 <Halcyon> :P
47:00 <coppice> Halcyon: A single model might be an order for 5 or 10 million MCUs
47:20 <Halcyon> Is that a lot?
47:36 <T3sl4> it's more than two
48:43 <coppice> Halcyon: well, if they are internet connected with won't be 5 cent MCUs. Then you may be able to sell then a wifi radio chip and other stuff
48:43 <electrohead> heh
49:21 <Halcyon> Yeh fair enough
49:49 <Halcyon> I wonder what it would be like to be a developer for such a company. Some of the ones we played with (heh) ran Busybox
50:22 <Halcyon> Or some other linuxy type thing
50:54 <T3sl4> tbh the thing that disturbs me almost as much as sharing that data over the air, is putting a lithium ion battery inside your body
52:50 <coppice> Halcyon: some of the interesting inquiries I received were for things like those little love eggs. They usually have a lead, but the premium ones don't. and there is very little space inside for battery. So, they want them to be super efficient.
52:52 <Halcyon> Well yeh that too
53:29 <Halcyon> I'm honestly surprised there haven't been more injuries reported due to crappy Chinese batteries
55:03 <rust_collector> well, do they really do anything interesting very often? My experience has been that they are just sort of low capacity and crap
55:10 <coppice> Halcyon: If you talk with people who work in A&E depts, most of the sexual injuries are still mechanically induced
55:58 <Halcyon> I have a mate of mine who works in ICU at a hospital, I should ask him
56:12 <Halcyon> I'd imagine too, things getting "stuck" would be common
56:34 <coppice> Halcyon: hopefully not too many reach an ICU
56:42 <T3sl4> always have a string or flange on it
57:02 <rust_collector> or a small rocket motor
57:07 <Halcyon> Well when it's something like a zucchini or carrot, not always an option
57:37 <coppice> Halcyon: vegetarian sex toys?
57:51 <Halcyon> I guess anything can be a sex toy if you try
57:57 <rust_collector> carrots come with handles
58:10 <Halcyon> The ones that give me the heebie-jeebies are "sounds"
58:58 <rust_collector> a little speaker, that says "hello? HELLO??"
59:03 <T3sl4> heh
59:11 <Halcyon> https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2017/08/what-is-urethral-sounding/
59:14 <T3sl4> oh my young summer child
59:20 <Halcyon> This is reletively safe for work
59:36 <Halcyon> But basically it's a probe you insert in your pee hole
00:37 <Halcyon> I do wonder the history behind some of these discoveries. Like who thought that it should be a fun idea to do that?
00:39 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/l80atz/uwu/
00:57 <Halcyon> Aw they are friends
00:57 <T3sl4> Halcyon, if there's a hole, someone's put something inappropriate in it
01:19 <Halcyon> That's true T3sl4
03:17 <coppice> "well, you can... oh, you already have."
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12:54 <rust_collector> koppis is "busy", because he got some neat ideas
13:01 <Halcyon> Hah
14:15 <T3sl4> hard to hold a konversation when you've got a gag in
21:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Ed McCloskey: @eevblog https://t.co/HqPdJcUo4E
46:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: LOL at the Reddit crowd piling into silver, 40 years after the Hunt Brothers. The 80's are back! Trying to screw JP Morgan maybe?, they were fined over $1BN for silver market manipulation: https://t.co/KdHlln4pS9 But they also are 3rd lagest holder https://t.co/BUBmLt0vrL https://t.co/uoAaW5UUOg
03:32 <rust_collector> ok
03:46 * electrohead gag rust_collector
04:16 * T3sl4 zaps electrohead with a one of those neon wand thingies
04:33 <electrohead> gags*
04:38 <electrohead> I can't type tonight
04:48 * electrohead zaps T3sl4 with his own tesla coil
05:17 <T3sl4> ow, right in the testecols
06:03 <electrohead> I've always wanted to make a pretty large sized tesla coil, for funsies
06:12 <T3sl4> takes a lot of power
07:42 <rust_collector> t would be cool to have one, that is big enough that I have to have it outside. maybe next to the train line, so I can use their lots of power
08:32 <rust_collector> I do wonder why our trains run on such weird power
09:04 <T3sl4> because history?
09:11 <rust_collector> probably
09:18 <T3sl4> is that weird AC, or just whatever DC
09:41 <rust_collector> ac, 16 3/4hz or something like that
09:53 <T3sl4> yeah, go figure
12:09 <rust_collector> ok, it is 16 2/3 Hz
12:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Not sure I'm going to have the whiteboard space https://t.co/OG4glcxedh
13:26 <T3sl4> 16 point the devil's frequency
14:25 <Halcyon> What else is good party food?
14:32 <Halcyon> I'm going to make home made sausage rolls
14:55 <T3sl4> dip
15:50 <Halcyon> You are so straight
15:51 <Halcyon> :P
15:59 <Halcyon> I might do mini quiches
16:05 <rust_collector> cabbage rolls, grilled meat on stick, mexican stew thing
16:21 <Halcyon> Meats on sticks is good
16:29 <T3sl4> you're such a sausage party
16:32 <rust_collector> yes it is
16:41 <Halcyon> :P
16:45 <T3sl4> mmm, chilidogs
16:56 <electrohead> speaking of sausage
17:00 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1uiCW7EDeg
17:08 <rust_collector> half length corndogs?
17:27 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, who is this nutbag?
17:49 <electrohead> I actually like his videos a lot, mainly because he makes sausage out of anything, and tries it
17:53 <electrohead> <.<
18:10 <electrohead> oh oh, to answer your question
18:14 <electrohead> "Ordinary Sausage"
18:54 <Halcyon> He is a bit much for me
18:59 <T3sl4> oh i get it. Halcyon could use some gaytor sausage
19:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Bugger it, I think I'll just copy this, the reasons are near identical: https://t.co/7eu1iMDLc8
19:23 <Halcyon> You're going to scare away ed_kloonk with all this sausage talk
20:35 <ed_kloonk> German sausages are the wurst
20:42 <Halcyon> Eyyyyy
20:44 <Halcyon> :)
21:00 <Halcyon> Maybe I can do mac and cheese spring rolls
21:13 <rust_collector> no
21:27 <T3sl4> ed is such a brat
21:29 <rust_collector> no no no
21:38 <Halcyon> What's wrong?
21:55 <T3sl4> ooh, mac and cheese in fried like egg rolls? that'd be nice
22:05 <rust_collector> mac and cheese and spring rolls. that is just wrong
22:14 <T3sl4> more like summer rolls
22:20 <T3sl4> how about summer sausage rolls? hmm
22:27 <Halcyon> rust_collector, they are delicious :)
22:41 <rust_collector> I don't care, that is wrong!
22:49 <Halcyon> Don't knock it until you try it :)
23:14 <rust_collector> Nah, it sounds good, but I guess it s one of those things that you have to eat right now.
24:37 <Halcyon> Okies, I'm going to the supermarket. Back later
25:09 <rust_collector> just think they would be a bit less great if they get cold
27:14 <T3sl4> shrug, pizza's pretty good when cold
27:21 <rust_collector> yep
27:33 <T3sl4> i don't mind cold macca. i guess the fried shell would turn mushier
28:22 <rust_collector> I guess it is better than reheated kebab from last night
35:04 <rust_collector> heh, the little deer was outside again. they are pretty cute. They have to be very bored, because they walk around the same place every night. I guess they have a party up in the woods or something
36:02 <rust_collector> time for a nap. good night
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35:46 <Andre> Good morning
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01:20 <Halcyon> Hey Andre
10:42 <Halcyon> I like how Alec from Technology Connections uses celsius and other normal units of measure in his videos.
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25:12 <hsn> This is my branch
25:21 <hsn> Brunch
25:28 <hsn> Launch / breakfast
26:22 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fnfFCc62e3YdGcKF8
29:27 <hsn> The egg thingy was good but the formation or shape of it isnt attractive
30:45 <Andre> looks good
38:02 <Halcyon> That looks delicious hsn
38:08 <Halcyon> You going to add it to the forum?
38:21 <Halcyon> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/
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56:33 <Watcher> Hello guys on the interwebs
57:08 <Andre> hello Watcher
57:39 <Watcher> whats up Andre
58:16 <Andre> Listening some music, preparing the playlist for Tuesday
59:40 <Watcher> what is so special on tuesday that it needs a dedecated playlist?
00:29 <Andre> Then I'll be doing a radio stream
00:44 <Watcher> sounds nice
02:45 <Andre> So, Tuesday at 20:00 my shows begins, at 22:00-ish I'll start doing requests
04:32 <Watcher> and when will the show end? A hour later?
05:51 <Andre> Depends on how many people are still listening and how tired I am
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31:22 <hsn> Halcyon, https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/(recipe)-special-shakshooka/
31:44 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
32:20 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
32:36 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, I have a great thing on upwork for you
33:04 <hsn> Halcyon, tbh my way of adding spices = "shake the spice bottle and they drop .. just by eye... no real teaspoon thingy"
33:11 <hsn> show
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33:57 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.upwork.com/job/Hardware-design-engineer-needed_~01aaa5facc89edd38d/
34:48 <hsn> when they say microprocessor
34:52 <hsn> is it microcontroller ?
35:17 <Ysjoelfir> probably yes
35:42 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, how useful is upwork?
36:07 <T3sl4> also Ysjoelfir, "animal with two legs" = "the other other white meat"? ;)
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37:55 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, upwork is not usefull at all, you should not go there and propose to stuff I am interested in :P
38:07 <hsn> hhaha
38:21 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i would love to propose on that thing
38:37 <Ysjoelfir> No, its quite ok. Many idiots, but also some interesting jobs. sadly many underpaid. and yes, the other other white meat :P
38:41 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, well, then do?
38:53 <hsn> i just want to know based on ur knowledge of my knowledge .. im afraid of these points : memory modules, power circuits and networking/communication modules
39:11 <hsn> this is only time i dealt with memory:
39:23 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-Z2RwgHFKA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
39:55 <hsn> it didnt even require length matching etc etc .. was just NOR flash + sram
40:53 <hsn> also that was not tested xD .. i get "scared" to take someone money and not be able to deliver his needs
41:02 <T3sl4> it kinda sounds like a project i did recently, tbh
41:21 <hsn> T3sl4, they were not happy now they want me to fix ur mistake
41:22 <T3sl4> and that took months (partly because the MCU is some propietary jobbie)
41:28 <hsn> lol just ironic joke ^
42:28 <Ysjoelfir> well, you can always learn if you think you don't get it right? I think you could manage that.
42:37 <T3sl4> even with the "negotiable" part, $1200 is such an underball that i can't imagine any possible way i would make money off an offer like that
43:25 <hsn> T3sl4, there are some good price jobs .. but to start somewhere .. i should start with cheap ones .. specially with my knowledge ..
43:40 <T3sl4> maybe that was the point of posting it here, to gawk at the naivety, idunno :P
43:46 <hsn> u can find some with 30/40$ / hour or somthing
44:01 <Ysjoelfir> Thats what I meant with many underpaid. but you have to take the location into account. Also, many good paid ones expect you to have reviews on upwork.
44:08 <T3sl4> $30/hr is like negative money here
44:32 <hsn> T3sl4, now u hurt me
44:43 <Ysjoelfir> yep, same here. german engineers (freelancers) would expect like 75 and upwards per hour. but you have to have a good reputation for that
45:19 <hsn> T3sl4, https://www.upwork.com/ab/find-work/details/~0113fd2c6ff8baa1bd
45:31 <T3sl4> yeah, i can see that would happen. so just having a base on there, means investing significant time at negative money until you finally start getting good offers
45:40 <Ysjoelfir> yep
45:44 <T3sl4> hsn, needs login
45:58 <Ysjoelfir> ●Process sheets
45:58 <Ysjoelfir> ●Work Cell Layouts
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Required tooling and equipment
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Design and manufacture of specialized fixtures, jigs, electronics, software
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Logic Flow Diagrams for Foil’s firmware team
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Video Instructions for each process
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●An online portal for technicians to access all process sheets and videos
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Testing and optimization of all processes by staging the assembly line at Skill Hoarder Labs for assembly of at least 25 controllers before delivery
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Initial support to get the line up and running at Foil’s warehouse
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> ●Shipping of all equipment to Foil’s warehouse in Pensacola FL
46:00 <hsn> let me
46:02 <Ysjoelfir> 43k fixed price
46:06 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/v5ZakA.jpg
46:07 <Ysjoelfir> level intermediate
46:16 <Ysjoelfir> ah. well, thats better xD
47:09 <T3sl4> they want an entire fucking assembly line? for $43k?
47:34 <Ysjoelfir> yes. and of course you would have to have the equipment yourself
47:53 <T3sl4> even if it's all arduinos and speed tape, that's still negative money
48:23 <Ysjoelfir> well, if you would be done in a month I would consider that a good price ;-P
49:35 <hsn> T3sl4, i think if u have customers allready .. then why u would go to freelancing platform
49:42 <Watcher> and if you take the contract you must also build a fully functional prototype for the 43K?
49:55 <hsn> in my opinion .. its much better to get them long termed by ur self
50:28 <hsn> upwork i think would take 10-20% of projects
51:15 <Watcher> 4.3 to 8.6K less if you take the money for a loss making job is al lot
51:37 <Watcher> in my eyes
51:50 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/xr3BYt.jpg
52:37 <T3sl4> thats not a big deal by itself, but it hurts even more when everyone's lowballing this much
53:30 <hsn> T3sl4, u know whats the solution ?
53:34 <Ysjoelfir> problem is, that there are many indian and chinese "companies" offering to EVERYTHING with their incredibly low prices. that makes it hard to compete with quality alone, so you HAVE to go down in price
54:03 <hsn> T3sl4, a reddit .. UpworkBets
54:07 <hsn> :P
54:18 <T3sl4> heh
56:03 <Watcher> hsn, then upworks makes a lot of money by make just a site and do some marketign for there one platform
56:34 <hsn> Watcher, ofc .. and it works for them pretty well ..
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57:19 <hsn> well they also act like paypal to make sure u "get paid" and "get the job done" i guess ?
57:46 <hsn> middle person ? 3rd party ? .. idk whats the proper description here
58:01 <Watcher> i agree with that much money for a contract and you can make 100se of contractdeals a day with no extra effort
58:29 <Watcher> and paypal will also take there part?
58:55 <hsn> idk how the payments are done .. maybe direct visa thingy ?
59:02 <hsn> i never had job there ^
00:31 <Watcher> https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/merchant-fees#fixed-fees-commercialtrans
00:45 <Watcher> you will lose another 2.90% to paypal
05:43 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, there is one problem with my proposal
06:04 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/4WSX7p.jpg
06:43 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/PcTXLI.jpg <--- its here
07:22 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/5dlpWZ.jpg <-- local ppl would know this is not me lol
07:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^ Yep, I know exactly what you mean
07:33 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:46 <hsn> https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ << need to do many refresh
07:48 <hsn> now
07:50 <hsn> lol
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11:12 <Ysjoelfir> pff :D
18:44 <hsn> hey Halcyon ,,
18:47 <hsn> CRTs have always scared me. That... and car batteries. <<
18:57 <hsn> why car battery scare u ?
27:35 <Ampera> It is 5F out
28:01 <Ampera> eevblog convert 5f to c
28:01 <EEVBlog> The result is: -15 c
28:33 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, probably one of the irational fears. I know many people that fear car batteries as well, probably because in media it at least WAS often shown that those are soooooo dangerous and can electrocute you. because you know, they are strong genough to start a car!
28:44 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, that sounds beautiful!
28:47 <Ysjoelfir> here its +6
28:52 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 6c to f
28:53 <EEVBlog> The result is: 42.8 f
30:44 <Ampera> that's almost tshirt weather
30:59 * Ysjoelfir is sitting here with a tshirt
31:01 <Ysjoelfir> almost?
31:15 <Ampera> the only thing to fear from car batteries is hydrogen discharge
31:30 <Ysjoelfir> kaboom
32:04 <Ampera> as for the temperature, I have to go out in that
32:11 <Ampera> oh well, could be worse
32:21 <Ampera> we've had -20F days before
34:27 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert -20f to c
34:28 <EEVBlog> The result is: -28.889 c
34:34 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty cold indeed
38:39 <Watcher> that will by here one of the coldest days in 100 year'
45:43 <Ampera> mhm, apparently the weather here today is a high of 18F and a low of -4F
45:59 <Ampera> -8C and -20C respectively
57:33 <hsn> Eevblog convert bahrain to c
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58:01 <hsn> Eevblog r u fcking ignoring me?
58:22 <hsn> 42, eevblog!
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09:24 <T3sl4> EEVBlog convert hsn to judaism
10:14 <hsn> Eevblog add T3sl4 to ignorelist
10:41 <T3sl4> you can ignore my messages, but you'll never ignore... my farts
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15:55 <T3sl4> nice: https://www.iowasatanicschool.org/
24:30 <hsn> whats nice about it :P
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