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34:44 <Ampera> I guess the mention for blueskill already worked
34:45 <Ampera> uh
35:03 <Ampera> yeah simple machines is quite simple
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37:35 <Nothing\> oh hey, i didn't even realize i was in here
37:54 <Nothing\> lol i was just doing impromptu experiments, trying to play high pitched tones to see if my cat will react
38:19 <Nothing\> but as i don't know the frequency response of the speakers in my TV or phone, it's hard to say what is and isn't actually being played
38:43 <Nothing\> when i played 20khz on the phone, you could hear this really low pitched sawtooth or square wave sounding tone
38:50 <Nothing\> very quiet
46:24 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
46:44 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
46:50 <Nothing\> heya buddy, how's it going?
46:52 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
47:10 <Nothing\> i'm doing alright, bowels cramping like they have been pretty much since xmas but it's going away
47:11 <Ampera> alright, went out to eat for my birthday last night, going grocery shopping soon
47:16 <Nothing\> i think it's got to do with my meds and that
47:23 <Nothing\> oh it was your birthday yesterday?
47:27 <Ampera> no
47:29 <Nothing\> when?
47:33 <Ampera> 21st
47:41 <Nothing\> right on, turning... 18? 19?
47:46 <Ampera> 37
47:50 <Nothing\> lol
47:54 <Nothing\> i'll be 36 in march
47:59 <Ampera> 19
48:00 <Nothing\> :|
48:03 <Nothing\> right on
48:08 <Nothing\> well, happy belated birthday
48:18 <Ampera> thanks
48:20 <Nothing\> i hope it was all good for you
48:27 <Nothing\> you deserve it
48:40 <Ampera> It was fine
48:44 <Ampera> ate food
48:50 <Nothing\> yeah that's the thing about becoming an adult
48:56 <Nothing\> birthdays go from being fun to being fine
49:02 <Ampera> not really
49:05 <Ampera> my birthdays were always fine
49:06 <Nothing\> they will
49:14 <Ampera> I wouldn't call any of them particularly fun
49:20 <Ampera> but none of them were particularly bad
49:30 <Nothing\> apparently in british parlance "quite good" is like their equivalent of "fine"
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49:37 <Nothing\> heya steve30!
49:45 <Nothing\> how's it going, bro?
49:47 <steve30> hi
49:59 <Nothing\> anyways Ampera
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50:12 <Nothing\> do you remember me talking about the governor general a few days ago?
50:16 <Nothing\> hey arch
50:18 <arch> hi
50:19 <Nothing\> how you doing?
50:23 <steve30> Just got back from this weeks coronavirus protest. We had a small march round the city centre. I got some decent video footage but I couldn't hold the camera steady.
50:28 <Ampera> perhaps
50:29 <Nothing\> man this place livened up in a hurry
50:49 <Nothing\> steve30, apparently Trump had absolutely NO executive orders RE: covid
50:52 <Nothing\> no plan in place, nothing
51:03 <Nothing\> not for vaccines, not for managing it, nothing
51:13 <Ampera> because here's the thing about executive orders
51:16 <Ampera> they don't mean a whole lot
51:35 <Ampera> the only thing that'd be reasonable to complain about is the vaccine distribution being rather meh
51:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, my point is he had absolutely no plan at all
51:44 <Ampera> but it's rather meh around the world, and within each of the state
51:48 <Nothing\> it's no wonder the US just surpassed 400k deaths from it
51:56 <Ampera> no that's not why
51:56 <Nothing\> and is the most infected country in the world
52:06 <Nothing\> it's partly why, but you're right
52:11 <Nothing\> these things have many contributing factors
52:29 <Ampera> While the government has the power to do anything it wants, in reality, there is no feasible way to close the US down like a country like Germany
52:47 <Ampera> The entire reason measures haven't been put into place is because people wouldn't deal with them, the few we have are already /very/ unpopular
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53:00 <Nothing\> a lot of americans don't seem keen to take the measures we have in canada like self imposed isolation, government imposed lockdowns and shutting down non-essential businesses, mandatory masks everywhere outside your house
53:01 <arch> T3sl4, i finally understand what slope comp actually does! im so happy. i was up late yesterday looking thru youtube vids, and this was the vid that explained it so clearly to a noob like me: https://youtu.be/b3e0RTWt4W0?t=214
53:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, just shows how entitled the average american is
53:39 <Ampera> Nothing\, most certainly, many would rather ride it out whatever the cost of life, which I believe is an acceptable moral decision, as is having heavy protective lockdowns and anything in between
53:54 <Nothing\> frankly i'm surprised at how well Canadians have been coping, but a lot of our politicians came under fire for traveling in december while telling us not even to leave home to visit family
54:11 <Ampera> Outside of absolute extremes like mandating licking doorknobs, or welding people into their homes with steel bars, I don't believe one method is definitively better than the other
54:15 <Nothing\> the finance minister was fired cuz he spent a month in St Bart's which is a luxury island resort
54:20 <Ampera> it's ultimately a tradeoff between life and living
54:27 <Nothing\> but the thing is, even our government ended the lockdowns too early
54:38 <Nothing\> and as a result, we got this "second wave" as they keep calling it
55:05 <Nothing\> as an example, during the first wave, 2,000 cases a day was considered high, now we're at around 6,000 cases a day and expected to hit 10,000 by the end of the month
55:08 <Ampera> I disagree, a spike in infections during the colder season was predicted and inevitable
55:16 <Nothing\> that too, for sure
55:21 <Nothing\> thanks for bringing that up as well
55:24 <Ampera> :/
55:40 <Nothing\> although this second wave started in the fall and the cold weather didn't really start here until december
55:48 <Nothing\> but it is definitely a contributing factor for sure
55:52 <Ampera> I mean you can believe what you want, my point is I wouldn't ascribe derision to people whose governments have decided to take a (within reason) stricter or lighter path
56:01 <Nothing\> one which i think a lot of people besides myself have forgotten about
56:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, travel and holidays
56:26 <Nothing\> well, we've been banned from traveling
56:29 <Ampera> Even in Canada, I imagine thousands traveled despite whatever warnings or restrictions might have imposed for the holiday season
56:30 <Nothing\> informally anyways
56:34 <Ampera> glwt
56:57 <Nothing\> like there's no law against it, but there's a strong sentiment against traveling
57:08 <Nothing\> like i said, numerous politicians have lost their jobs for traveling
57:27 <Nothing\> and speaking of which, were you here the other day when i was talking about our governor general?
58:08 <Ampera> You already asked that question and I already answered perhaps
58:16 <Nothing\> i did?
58:22 <Nothing\> man my memory's getting bad
58:32 <Nothing\> so you heard about her forced resignation then?
58:43 <Ampera> no
58:53 <Nothing\> yeah, a couple of days ago trudeau forced her to resign
59:06 <Ampera> I just about keep up with federal and state politics, and some of Germany's business
59:10 <Ampera> besides that idfk
59:40 <Nothing\> there was a "scathing" report against her that she constantly abused and berated her employees and held a toxic work environment
00:00 <Nothing\> and apparently it was so bad that trudeau basically told her, either you resign, or i'm going to the queen and telling on you
00:17 <Ampera> what is the point of words like toxic
00:21 <Nothing\> that is, recommending her immediate termination
00:23 <Ampera> they are almost intentionally vague
00:39 <electrohead> o/
00:45 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
00:48 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead?
00:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, i think it's not quite the right word, but it gets the point across better than most buzzwords
00:56 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
00:59 <electrohead> getting hugged, lol
01:05 <electrohead> hey guys
01:07 <Nothing\> Ampera, one thing i didn't realize about her, she was a fucking astronaut
01:07 <Ampera> not really
01:15 <Nothing\> she flew on the space shuttle on STS-127
01:20 <Ampera> when someone says toxic work environment, I have no idea what they mean, besides they don't like something about it
01:20 <Nothing\> i think she even went to the ISS
01:26 <Nothing\> Julie Payette
02:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah toxic work environment coulda been used to describe what happened with the radium girls
02:20 <Nothing\> or it can describe your boss yelling at you
02:21 <Ampera> That would be a fair use of the word, since it's actually descriptive of the problem.
02:28 <Nothing\> that's a pretty wide spectrum there
02:56 <Nothing\> well, i guess toxic sorta fits if you look at the meaning literally
03:16 <Nothing\> which is something which causes damage or death to a living organism (or its cells/organs)
03:56 <Nothing\> and being harassed and berated and abused psychologically constantly will damage a person's psyche
04:05 <Nothing\> so technically i guess you could say it's toxic in that way
04:23 <Nothing\> unless they just outright developed a 2nd definition for the word
04:52 <Ampera> yeah but why not just say, physically and psychologically harassing
04:57 <Ampera> instead of just, vaguely, toxic
05:46 <Ampera> going shortly as I'll have birthday pie and then go grocery shopping
08:38 <Nothing\> yeah, i'm about to eat some breakfast eggs, myself
08:46 <Nothing\> so i'll be back in a little bit
08:59 <Nothing\> enjoy your birthday pie and shopping, bud
09:07 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
09:08 <Ampera> ciao
09:41 <coppice> I wonder how many fucking astronauts there have been? An even number, I assume.
11:15 <coppice> Ampera: a toxic work environment is when you are sick of something there. It could be a nasty chemical, but its most probably the people.
13:32 <coppice> Hurray for British innovation: "Coronavirus: UK variant 'may be more deadly'"
14:25 <Kuschelpony> coppice, good to have brexit :)
27:41 <arch> coppice, i dont think there have been too many, if any, fucking astronauts (in space at least) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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29:17 <coppice> arch: come on. there's no way women have been up there and resisted trying.
29:48 <arch> it would be an ethical concern. how do you know the baby wouldn't turn out a mutant abomination? are you gonna take the risk?
31:04 <coppice> arch: I don't know if you've heard of it, but there is this new technology called contraception
31:54 <arch> what if you get cum in your eyeballs? microgravity and all
32:22 <arch> valid concern right there my dude
37:20 <arch> see? you've gone silent. i rest my case.
57:40 <arch> does anyone know how to filter for coupled inductors on LCSC? having a very hard time
01:19 * T3sl4 microgravitationally floats a poop over to arch
02:46 * arch deflects it with the force
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10:25 <electrohead> lmfao
11:18 <arch> can i use this POE trafo for 5V@2A out? says 13W rated. https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/Zhongshan-HanRun-Elec-HR051142_C55680.pdf
11:30 <arch> but rated for 12V 1A
15:25 <arch> nvm found one that's rated for 5V 1.5A, that's good enough for the RPI3B+
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18:09 <T3sl4> i'm just a PoE boy nobody loves me
18:29 <arch> T3sl4, you've said that joke over 5 times now
18:33 * arch rolls eyes
19:04 <T3sl4> sparing your life from this monstrosity?
27:41 <arch> ah..neat. so if i know for sure my duty cycle is never going to go above 50%, i can just use the UC3842 and skip the slop comp circuit. sounds right?
28:09 <arch> instead of using the UC3843, which is slightly more expensive
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29:27 <arch> sorry i mean UC3845--that one's limited to <50% dty
29:38 <arch> and costs slightly lless
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32:01 <arch> lol, i like how ONSemi marked the UC38xx series as obsolete. must be living in lala land.
32:50 <arch> even worse are manufacturers who remove datasheets for "obsolete" products, then i have to go on shady russian websites to download the datasheets. god bless them though.
39:54 <Kuschelpony> ouch... https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/366603-f6-smokes-preamp.html
42:07 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/802593656162484264/20210123_123950.jpg
42:09 <Ampera> food
42:19 <arch> less food, more tentacles
56:57 <T3sl4> arch: you're welcome to try CCM at <50% without slope comp
57:06 <T3sl4> actually, better to do that sooner than later
58:29 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: heh, i've been on dA for a looong time (if not much at all in the last many years)
59:39 <Kuschelpony> i am not yet there, just occasionally read there and thought "WTF" when i saw that thread
00:51 <T3sl4> there's plenty more WTF than smoking resistors :)
01:58 <Kuschelpony> i have long ago already noticed the split between voodoo and engineering
07:35 <arch> T3sl4, why do you say that? do i expect to see funky behavior?
09:49 <T3sl4> dooo iiiit
10:07 <arch> i will, but what am i expecting? funky behavior? instability?
10:38 <arch> well, i can find that out myself, obv. but im impatient
11:21 <T3sl4> you already have the too-large inductors
11:30 <T3sl4> just set the output lower so D < 0.5
11:32 <T3sl4> doi
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29:11 <arch> PTC polyfuse or ceramic fuse for POE input current protection?
29:51 <arch> hard to find PTC that can withstand 0.6A continuous at 60V rating
31:09 <arch> will look around some more later
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31:49 <DHess_US> Fuses are for protecting against hazardous conditions and not current limiting.
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07:38 <Nothing\> oh man, why didn't anyone tell me Tim Hortons' cappuccinos taste like shit now
07:47 <Nothing\> they were awesome in the 90's
08:04 <rust_collector> just because I never tried that.
08:17 <Nothing\> but this shit, i literally spit it out the second it hit my tongue, almost involuntarily
08:36 <Nothing\> it just tastes like really strong black coffee
09:01 <Nothing\> they used to make em with different flavours like french vanilla or irish cream
10:18 <Nothing\> those were delicious, i'd go over to timmies with my friend who forever friendzoned me, but we still wound up really good friends until she went kinda psycho on me when i got a serious gf and our engagement became imminent
11:26 <rust_collector> that sounds like their pr guys just pick a country name and flavor
11:31 <Nothing\> constantly trying to break us up, spying on me at a party to see if i cheated on her, saying shit in front of her to me like "jeez look at how big the pores on your face are" just a lot of little passive aggressive things that amounted to a lot of tumult in our relationship, especially considering my gf then was living in her basement
11:54 <Nothing\> when i got her pregnant, my friend actually told her she either has to get an abortion, or she's kicking her out
12:04 <Nothing\> so she lied to everyone and said she got an abortion
12:08 <Nothing\> including me, for some reason
13:07 <rust_collector> afghan chocolate is the best cappuchino
13:18 <Nothing\> i'm wondering if maybe she realized she had feelings for me after all and wanted to sabotage our relationship because of that, or if she just wanted the same dedication I showed her when I was trying to win her over or what
13:32 <Nothing\> not like she needed it, since she had a serious, live-in BF at the time
13:46 <Nothing\> i've never heard of that one
13:51 <Nothing\> afghan chocolate
14:14 <Nothing\> my one friend's mother used to do a lot of knitting and she'd always knit these blankets they called afghans
14:35 <Nothing\> they were horrible blankets cuz by design, they have large holes in them as part of the pattern
14:54 <Nothing\> every sleepover i'd have pile like 3 or 4 of them on top of me to stay warm
15:26 <rust_collector> well, I think the trick is to use one, and a regular one
15:30 <Nothing\> meanwhile this was like, 20 feet from a hot tub
15:36 <Nothing\> so you'd think it'd already be warm down there
15:45 <Nothing\> it was certainly humid and chemical smelling
15:58 <Nothing\> actually their whole house smelled like hot tub chemicals
17:12 <Nothing\> rust_collector, frankly i can't even stand using 1 anymore. I can't stand anything touching me while I sleep because it just feels restrictive or something. So I've gotta sleep completely nude and with no blankets at all
17:29 <rust_collector> oh well
17:33 <Nothing\> and of course i have to keep my room around 82 degrees at night to stay comfortable
17:39 <rust_collector> I can not sleep without anything on top
17:52 <Nothing\> what do you think of a weighted blanket?
17:57 <rust_collector> no
18:18 <rust_collector> I don't think of that, lol
18:34 <Nothing\> yeah i feel like using one of those would feel like being slowly smothered to death.
19:19 <rust_collector> In my case, it does not matter what it is. it can be a heavy old duvet, or a thin blanket, as long as there is something there, I am ok
19:25 <Nothing\> which, incidentally is what pneumonia feels like
19:32 <Nothing\> slowly suffocating to death
19:50 <Nothing\> except on your own bodily fluids rather than a blanket
20:08 <rust_collector> well, I never tried slowly suffocating to death, so...
21:00 <Nothing\> i never liked thin blankets, they get messy way too easy and then you're stuck trying to figure out which way is the right way around and trying to straighten it out and make sure the top is actually the top
21:25 <Nothing\> actually i got that a lot with regular blankets, too
22:04 <Nothing\> rust_collector, did you hear the big canadian politics news?
22:15 <Nothing\> actually there were 2 major stories in the last couple of days
22:35 <rust_collector> no, I have not really heard any news in a while
23:21 <Nothing\> first was the premier (canadian version of governor) of Alberta suggesting imposing trade sanctions on the US because of Biden cancelling the Keystone XL Pipeline. Trudeau basically laughed at him and told him it was a stupid idea.
23:35 <Nothing\> but the biggest news, our governor general resigned
24:00 <Nothing\> who, in case you don't know, outranks even Trudeau in the Parliamentary Hierarchy
24:39 <rust_collector> ok, so I guess not much has happened over there
24:46 <rust_collector> which is good
24:54 <Nothing\> apparently she was really abusive to her employees, never wanted to meet with other politicians, held a hostile and "toxic" work environment, constantly berated and belittled those under her
25:30 <Nothing\> and the report was so damning that trudeau basically told her, you either resign right now, or I'm going to recommend your immediate termination to The Queen
25:37 <Nothing\> which would have been unprecedented
26:08 <Nothing\> cuz she's only recommended by Trudeau, but the Queen is the one who actually hires her
26:21 <Nothing\> but I didn't realize, she was actually an astronaut
26:36 <Nothing\> she flew on the shuttle on STS-127
26:42 <Nothing\> Julie Payette
27:20 <rust_collector> ok, so where did she go wrong, and ended up in polytics?
27:38 <Nothing\> but people are all pissed off at Trudeau now because he did absolutely 0 vetting of her, didn't look into how her previous jobs went. Most she was hired because she was a friend of the family and she looks good on paper with all that she's done
28:03 <rust_collector> that sounds normal
28:22 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah exactly. She's a scientist. She has no place in politics and obviously doesn't understand what the role of the Governor General is
28:33 <rust_collector> why is this more than a small notice in the papers?
28:59 <rust_collector> politics are weird
29:43 <Nothing\> i'm not opposed to politicians being well versed in science, though. I think every politician should have at least some understanding of science so they can make decisions based on scientific issues much better
30:11 <Nothing\> rust_collector, the Governor General is a big deal in Canada
30:19 <rust_collector> so?
30:30 <Nothing\> so that's why it's big news
30:39 <rust_collector> meh.
30:54 <rust_collector> I guess I am just not like modern people
31:15 <Nothing\> same
33:43 <rust_collector> I am sure they will find someone to replace her.
33:49 <rust_collector> it will be fine
35:17 <rust_collector> probably one of the usual someone related or in some way doing business with those who find people for jobs
39:06 <Nothing\> yeah they will, hopefully they'll find somebody to replace Trudeau, too
39:26 <Nothing\> only he'll probably be a Tory and I've never liked the Conservative Party
39:49 <Nothing\> there's the NDP but they haven't had much success since their leader died
40:06 <Nothing\> he almost got in as Prime Minister at one point
40:17 <Nothing\> and they had a sizeable number of seats in the house of commons
40:46 <Nothing\> enough to affect the outcome of votes on bills
41:04 <rust_collector> i really do not think it matters, because you are in a country where each side is pretty much the same. just like here. they have their own "important" thing, which is their thing, but in general, they are almost all the same
42:32 <Nothing\> not at all, the Liberals are more left while the conservatives are far right
42:48 <Nothing\> not so sure about NDP but i'd imagine they lean left
43:10 <Nothing\> NDP is the New Democratic Party, btw
43:12 <rust_collector> sure, but that is pretty relative.
43:57 <Nothing\> then the 4th one is the bloc quebecois who are more focused on turning quebec into its own state
44:09 <Nothing\> succeeding from canada
44:23 <Nothing\> seceding?
45:12 <rust_collector> that is good. good luck to those people. they have a real thing. But if they get elected to do anything, they will do the same thing as if any other party gets in. because it is the way things are done
45:19 <Nothing\> but given their geographic position, that would make things a bit difficult since it would cut the maritime provinces off from the rest of canada, new brunswick, newfoundland and labrador, PEI, Nova Scotia
46:27 <Nothing\> and then the last of the popular parties is the green Party, which as the name implies, focuses more on environmental issues and stuff like that
46:30 <rust_collector> I hope this does not turn into somehting like the pakistan and east pakistan thing, lol
46:49 <Nothing\> but i remember in high school, a LOT of my peers thought the Green meant they were in favour of legalizing pot
47:03 <Nothing\> so that's where most of their young votes came from lol
47:35 <rust_collector> I do think there is something to that. the green people seems to like their weed
47:44 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector there has been a strong separatist movement in quebec for decades
47:51 <rust_collector> I know
47:54 <Nothing\> they're not gonna secede any time soon
48:03 <rust_collector> no, but it would be interesting
48:10 <Nothing\> damn right it would be
48:53 <Nothing\> especially to see how canada deals with having 1/3 of the country cut off from the rest of it
48:55 <rust_collector> if they did, I would be ok with that being a news thing
49:38 <Nothing\> especially if it was armed, like a civil war
49:47 <Nothing\> that'd be really interesting
50:38 <Nothing\> but i think the separatist movement is becoming more apathetic these last few years. At least I'm assuming it has done since i haven't heard anything about it in quite a while.
51:04 <rust_collector> they should join the eu, just to be really different
51:14 <Nothing\> "The Quebec Sovereignty Movement"
51:25 <Nothing\> I guess that's what they call it
51:45 <Nothing\> haha yeah, take The UK's place
52:17 <Nothing\> I think they'd be pretty close to being landlocked, too
53:03 <Nothing\> i mean they have Hudson bay to the north, but I'm pretty sure that's just all ice most of the time and becomes less navigable the more north you go
53:14 <rust_collector> that is fine. many places are. now the rest of canada just needs to ban any flights over their land
53:25 <Nothing\> then you've got the st lawrence river, which is an important water way for trade
53:42 <Nothing\> actually it's probably THE most important in ontario, next to the great lakes
55:44 <Nothing\> cuz you can use it to get from the Atlantic as far inland as Minnesota. And I'm sure there are other water ways they can take to go into the States from.
05:43 * electrohead offers beer
06:10 <rust_collector> see? you can get beer from the states. no problem there
07:25 <Nothing\> oooh this sounds like a good video
07:29 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BillR7xtTxc&ab_channel=ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
07:38 <Nothing\> Vintage Technology: PHILCO Transistor Manufacturing 1957
08:15 <rust_collector> have fun
08:21 <Nothing\> indeed
09:29 <rust_collector> I used to have a ford (philco) fridge it was a bit weird to have a ford logo on my fridge
16:26 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
44:17 * electrohead pokes hugs Ampera, rust_collector, and Ampera
44:31 * Ampera hugs electrohead, electrohead, and electrohead 
44:35 <rust_collector> WHAT!??!
44:44 <electrohead> lol
44:48 <Ampera> he loves me more
46:40 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead and rust_collector?
47:56 <rust_collector> I am barely doing. could be worse
48:37 <rust_collector> wondering if I should add a pile of random components to my power upply
50:27 <rust_collector> just to make it look complicated.
50:39 <rust_collector> they would not be connected to anything
04:43 <electrohead> you would have to post pictures
04:51 <electrohead> Ampera: I'm doing, at work like usual
04:52 <electrohead> you?
05:06 <Ampera> I'm alright, went to the supermarket, spent entirely too much money
05:10 <Ampera> going to bed in about an hour
13:10 * electrohead takes some of your food
13:17 <electrohead> joking, as my fridge is full with food
13:37 <Ampera> I uh, spend 250 bucks on food
13:40 <Ampera> q.q
13:43 <Ampera> I may have a problem
15:42 <rust_collector> but you won't be hungry
20:45 <electrohead> I spent 140 at Aldi's a few days ago
31:59 <coppice> lies. nobody spends that much in Aldi. The cashier would die of shock
32:09 <Ampera> I spent around 80 today
33:16 <Ampera> Aldi should also not be used with a possessive unless in direct reference to a possession of the company (instead of the store in and of itself). Aldi is short for Albrecht Discount
39:13 <electrohead> k
39:15 <electrohead> :p
39:23 * Ampera strangles electrohead with love
39:36 * electrohead strangles Ampera with a mouse cord
40:19 * Ampera strangles electrohead with a stranglutron-5000 made by dr. stranglo on the planet stranglometron
43:25 <electrohead> lol
43:40 <rust_collector> 
43:47 * Ampera offers some prosciutto to the strangled electrohead 
43:47 <Ampera> 
43:48 <Ampera> 
43:48 <Ampera> \
43:50 <Ampera> 
01:03 <electrohead> straight out of the package, or cooked up?
01:16 <electrohead> and, I think that was failed ascii art?
01:29 <rust_collector> pervert
02:47 <electrohead> no, you're a towel
05:52 <rust_collector> I have not exploded yet, so I doubt it
18:09 <electrohead> that's good then
18:27 <rust_collector> well, it depends on how you look at it
18:39 <electrohead> that's what she said
18:41 <electrohead> ok ok
18:42 <rust_collector> mmhmm
18:45 * electrohead is done being a goof
18:51 <electrohead> what you up to?
20:00 <rust_collector> i am thinking about fold-up camping trailers. or maybe one with a bottom and a top half, so you can lift the top half up, when you want to use it
20:31 <rust_collector> just to keep it nice and low profile when you are driving around
22:23 <electrohead> my dad used to have one of those back when I was a kid
22:31 <electrohead> did quite many trips in that thing
22:36 <electrohead> err, with*
22:41 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
24:30 <rust_collector> I want something with hard panels, not fabric. I guess the top/bottom half that slides together would be the easiest to get working well, without having it "open" while you are setting it up
26:36 <rust_collector> but it has to be small. It only needs to be large enough for a bed and some basic mini kitchen stuff
29:41 <rust_collector> otoh, I am more interested in a small van, that I can just throw a bed in the back
34:22 <Ampera> electrohead, it was not, and also what fucking monster /cooks/ prosciutto
35:03 <electrohead> Ampera: well, I don't know too much about it, therefore that's why I asked
35:10 <electrohead> so now I know - don't cook it
35:12 <electrohead> got it, lol
35:24 <rust_collector> deep fry it
35:44 <Ampera> it's a cured meat, it's like cooking smoked salmon
36:02 <rust_collector> which is fine, if you like that
36:34 <Ampera> I mean /maybe/ if you fried it as part of something, but it's usually eaten alone or with bread/crackers, or as a topping to pasta
36:51 <Ampera> rust_collector, I mean cooking cold smoked salmon
37:04 <rust_collector> yes, you should try that
37:08 <Ampera> hot smoked salmon is fine, but also far cheaper than cold smoked salmon
37:21 <Ampera> I have, and have made it myself a few times
38:25 <Ampera> but one wouldn't intentionally cook cold smoked salmon like that
38:34 <Ampera> it's just a complete waste
39:05 <rust_collector> meh. if you like that, it is fine.
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18:12 * Halcyon pokes Ampera
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24:22 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
24:49 <Halcyon> Yeeeee :)
25:10 <electrohead> :P
25:14 <electrohead> hey mate, how you doing?
25:39 <Halcyon> Not too bad, not long up. Had a sleep-in :)
25:45 <Halcyon> Having coffee
25:46 <Halcyon> You?
26:06 <electrohead> currently at work, I close in another hour and a half
26:10 <electrohead> yeeee :P
26:24 <Halcyon> Woot
27:55 <Halcyon> steve30, you around?
28:45 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
28:49 <Halcyon> :D
28:56 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
29:16 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
29:30 <Ampera> bleckh
29:41 <Ampera> can't sleep
29:59 <Halcyon> Clown will eat you?
30:38 <Ampera> the next simpsons quote you make, I swear to fuck I'll tell the fed there's muslims and oil in Australia
30:43 <Halcyon> :P
31:19 <Halcyon> I have a haircut in a few hours which I'm very much looking forward to
31:28 <Ampera> haircuts are gay
31:41 <Halcyon> Well, the guy who cuts my hair is
31:46 <electrohead> Halcyon: dude just shave it once a week :P
31:52 <Halcyon> Fuck off electrohead :P
31:54 <Ampera> b e l o o n g aaind f r ëë
31:55 <Halcyon> You've seen my hair
32:02 <electrohead> lol
32:12 <arch> could someone please explain what's the purpose of the parallel R and C across the comp and feedback pins of the UC3843? i highlighted it in blue: https://i.imgur.com/6kYLcVX.png
32:14 <rust_collector> I bet I can find a tool that can get it off
32:25 <Ampera> yeah it looks like hash browns gone wrong, Halcyon
32:46 <Halcyon> You're just jealous
32:53 <Ampera> not really
33:09 <Ampera> I come from an impressive like of monumentally hairy people
33:19 <Ampera> *like -> line
33:26 <Halcyon> arch, no faffing idea. Sounds like a coppice or T3sl4 question
33:31 <Halcyon> They are cleverer than I
33:39 <arch> same here
33:59 <Ampera> Halcyon, that's not hard to do
34:03 <Halcyon> Ampera: I'm not generally hairy, but I clipper most of it
34:18 <Halcyon> Although I probably need to shave my chest, it's starting to annoy me
34:25 <Ampera> I miss having long long hair
34:28 <arch> what i do know is the part highlighted in red--we're using the TL431 to control the optocoupler, and we're using the C19 and R35 for shaping the loop comp
34:40 * T3sl4 gifts Halcyon a paper bag, lit on fire, with an arch inside it
34:50 <Ampera> my hair is only kinda long-ish
35:13 <Halcyon> Ampera do you wax or anything everywhere else, or just leave it?
35:39 <T3sl4> arch, C5 probably isn't needed but IC7 is the error amp, IC1 just needs to do what its told
36:11 <T3sl4> also, cute slope comp, though i doubt it's all that good
36:12 <rust_collector> fly paper is pretty good for removing hair
36:14 <Ampera> I shave anything that isn't pubic or scalp
36:27 <Ampera> or too annoying for me to give a shit about shaving
36:43 <Halcyon> Fair enough
36:52 <Ampera> such as my lower back
37:00 <T3sl4> actually, that may even be inverse, slope decomp, which is strange
37:02 <Halcyon> Your doormat?
37:07 <Ampera> my what
37:15 <Halcyon> Heheh that's what it's called here
37:50 <arch> T3sl4, that schematic is from here: http://danyk.cz/s_atx06h.png
37:56 <Halcyon> Sorry "Welcome mat"
37:57 <Ampera> er, a doormat here is an excessively hairy female pubic region
38:00 <Halcyon> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=welcome%20mat
38:03 <arch> nice compilation too http://danyk.cz/s_atx_en.html
38:13 <arch> i dumped that whole website
38:50 <Halcyon> That's really handy arch, can I get a copy?
39:11 <rust_collector> he has it hosted online
39:22 <rust_collector> by some czech guy
39:33 <arch> Halcyon, what do you mean? i use a wget command to dump websites. you want that command?
39:37 <Halcyon> I can have an offline copy though :) I have a few websites which don't exist anymore
39:38 <Ampera> they have guys in czechland?
39:49 <Ampera> woah
39:50 <Halcyon> I guess I could do that too arch
40:31 <Ampera> just wanna cURL up into a ball and wget my existence
40:42 <arch> wget -e robots=off --wait 0.25 --recursive --no-clobber --page-requisites --adjust-extension --convert-links --restrict-file-names=windows https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/
40:44 <arch> like that
40:45 <Halcyon> Total Hardware 1999 is one of my favourite archives
41:07 <Halcyon> https://arvutimuuseum.ee/th99/
41:15 <Ampera> that's a dumb website, who would ever want to archive that
41:36 * T3sl4 glances at his outgoing network traffic
41:50 * Halcyon pounds T3sl4's webserver
41:53 <arch> cool, let me share some of my web dumps too Halcyon
42:04 * T3sl4 hashes Halcyon
42:31 <T3sl4> also Halcyon, could you remind Ampera he's leaking? ;)
42:45 <Halcyon> Leaking?
44:24 <arch> these are all the websites i recommend dumping. they are all pure html, or at most, html+css. javascript needs to get banned: electronixandmore.com ; ludens.cl ; romanblack.com ; schmidt-walter-schaltnetzteile.de ; www.dos4ever.com ; frankshospitalworkshop.com (HIGHLY RECOMMEND DUMPING); www.tube-tester.com
44:40 <Halcyon> Neat, thanks for that
44:43 <arch> and T3sl4's website
44:55 <Ampera> html, css, and javascript need to fucking die
45:09 <arch> what's wrong with html and css? i just dont like bloat
45:10 <Ampera> wasm isn't a bad step forward with that
45:23 <Ampera> css is a fucking incoherent nightmare
45:36 * Halcyon wasm's all over Ampera
45:41 <T3sl4> js is fine, in modest amounts
45:52 <Ampera> it makes writing good UI's a fucking torture session
46:10 <Ampera> that's why you have five thousand fucking javascript UI toolkits
46:27 <Ampera> each and every one of them needs to burn
48:04 <arch> amen
48:19 <arch> and awomen
49:14 <T3sl4> abinary
49:22 <arch> apache
49:35 <electrohead> web server?
49:40 <Ampera> yeah we need to get rid of women too
49:42 <Ampera> men as well
49:46 <Ampera> just all of them
50:24 * arch hands Ampera a snickers
50:35 <arch> you're not you when you're hungry
51:31 <Ampera> we need to get rid of chocolate too
51:39 <Ampera> it tastes and looks like shit
52:09 * T3sl4 leaves an extinguished paper bag of brown substance on arch's doorstep
52:21 <T3sl4> ...it's chocolate
53:41 <Ampera> while we're at it, we need to get rid of USB C and bring back USB micro B
54:06 <Ampera> my connectors aren't breaking anymore, meaning I don't have a reason to buy new devices anymore
54:34 <arch> you are a disgrace to capitalism
54:55 <T3sl4> we*, comrade
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10:31 <Halcyon> We could just switch to the Apple Lightning connector, then it would break all the time
10:57 * T3sl4 sips a glass of port
11:16 <Halcyon> I would have a beverage but I have to drive soon
12:36 <T3sl4> aw. i'll put a bottle on ice for you when you get there ;)
12:56 <Halcyon> :D
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19:02 <Halcyon> I might do a chicken pad kee mao tonight
20:25 * Ampera blesses Halcyon's sneeze
20:55 <rust_collector> chairman chicken. that sounds nice
21:10 <T3sl4> chickman
22:05 <arch> lol rust_collector
22:40 <rust_collector> yes, sorry about that
22:52 * rust_collector needs more coffee or something
28:51 * T3sl4 drive-by teas rust_collector
29:29 <rust_collector> eeeh, not quite that something
35:17 <T3sl4> drivebys are usually something undesired, so i figured that was appropriate
35:53 <rust_collector> Oh. I am usually just happy that they keep driving by, and not stopping
38:42 <T3sl4> indeed
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04:08 <MrMobodies> talking of headaches, I was experimenting one of the distros from Ghostbsd
04:19 <MrMobodies> oh window stuck
04:34 <MrMobodies> seems many things are different places
05:14 <rust_collector> that is why they have different places?
05:15 <MrMobodies> try to enable root so I can do what they hell I want and I got there in the end
05:53 <MrMobodies> it seems Lightdm is in a different place and some other file
06:11 <MrMobodies> compared to other distros but I installed a search tool and found them
06:25 <MrMobodies> should have done that first and save the time
06:55 <MrMobodies> there is this tool Fsearch and it wants to add into database
07:02 <MrMobodies> I just want the thing to search
07:24 <MrMobodies> I think it's doing some indexing
07:43 <MrMobodies> I can rest now I am pleased
07:48 <rust_collector> then use a search tool that does not? I don't know much about bsd things
07:55 <MrMobodies> I did
08:04 <rust_collector> ok
08:05 <MrMobodies> I think one of them I trie was catfish
08:14 <MrMobodies> which isn't great but I found the stuff I am looking for
08:33 <MrMobodies> another annoyance was the mouse wheel in Caja
08:46 <MrMobodies> if I scroll to the stop rather than stop scrolling
09:04 <MrMobodies> it opens the directory in the navigation pane
09:19 <MrMobodies> installed Thunar and it stopped doing that
09:31 <MrMobodies> and there is an animations issue I want to solve
09:38 <MrMobodies> A big BLOB appears on clicking
09:42 <rust_collector> hmm, caja is a gnome file manager, right?
09:43 <MrMobodies> very distracting
09:46 <MrMobodies> yes
09:51 <MrMobodies> it installed
09:57 <MrMobodies> oh
09:59 <MrMobodies> nononpo
10:12 <MrMobodies> it was included in GhostBSD
10:16 <MrMobodies> Mate distro
10:33 <rust_collector> yes, so it is the gnome file manager...
10:42 <MrMobodies> I see
10:49 <MrMobodies> as long as it doesn't annoy me
10:56 <MrMobodies> Disc image just finished so I am going copy it to many other discs
10:57 <rust_collector> mate is sort of a clone of the older version of gnome
11:02 <MrMobodies> and play around with it
11:08 <MrMobodies> that's why I like it
11:29 <MrMobodies> Gnome 3 looks like tablety
11:31 <MrMobodies> to me
11:56 <rust_collector> ghostbsd is a more linux-like bsd, isn't it? maybe I am confusing it with somehting else
11:57 <MrMobodies> and everything looks oversized
12:09 <MrMobodies> it's is just freebsd
12:14 <MrMobodies> with Mate put on it
12:20 <rust_collector> mmkay
12:27 <MrMobodies> http://download.us.ghostbsd.org/development/amd64/mate/
12:37 <MrMobodies> the good thing is that I like
12:54 <MrMobodies> when I put the livecd in I can access the a drive with PFSENSE
13:00 <MrMobodies> so I can make alterations easy
13:19 <MrMobodies> so that's is going to be a nice little work station for file system tasks made easy
13:23 <MrMobodies> so I can mount things
14:10 <rust_collector> hmm, kde... I wonder what version they use... I have to look that up
15:46 <MrMobodies> that don't seem to work
15:51 <MrMobodies> I tried it on a virtual machien
15:53 <MrMobodies> and on a server
16:00 <MrMobodies> i'Ll try another one just incase
16:10 <MrMobodies> it states it ran out of memory on the livecd
16:21 <MrMobodies> 3 gigabytes needed 30 gigabytes detected
18:21 <rust_collector> hmm, they have the plasma desktop, that is nice
18:26 <MrMobodies> I have 6x 120gb discs to play with
18:28 <MrMobodies> oooh I remember that
18:30 <MrMobodies> 2010
18:38 <MrMobodies> Gnome 2 and it had that cube thing
18:43 <MrMobodies> nice little play thing
19:08 <rust_collector> eeh ok?
19:32 <rust_collector> I think I will stay with xfce if I want to try a bsd again
19:44 <rust_collector> which I probably won't, lol
20:12 <MrMobodies> I only need it so I can mount the Pfsense discs
20:25 <MrMobodies> but I can experiment too
20:41 <MrMobodies> as long as i can do what i want I don't mind what it is
21:07 <MrMobodies> oh they do have an XFCE release too
21:22 <MrMobodies> http://download.us.ghostbsd.org/development/amd64/
21:35 <MrMobodies> and I looked at the Gnome 3 I don't like it
21:54 <rust_collector> good for you. I have some issues with using some things. I can not always explain why, but... things like arch. it is ok, but I can never use it for more than a week or two. It is just annoying me, for some reason
22:10 <MrMobodies> is it the graphical stuff?
22:17 <MrMobodies> such as animations
22:34 <MrMobodies> that puts me off greatly
22:45 <MrMobodies> like the ones I am seeing now
22:48 <rust_collector> I doubt it. I do not always have any graphical stuff at all, so probably not
23:11 <rust_collector> but I am generally ok with that, if there are some things
23:19 <MrMobodies> I like to see what I can do with something
23:39 <MrMobodies> and if it works in the way I wan then I am pleased
24:10 <MrMobodies> I might have a couple scsi disk with Ubuntu Gnome on somewhere
24:15 <MrMobodies> I'll see if I can copy them over
24:30 <rust_collector> so, how about the lxde or lxqt desktop? that is pretty plain, for being a "desktop"
24:34 <MrMobodies> I think that might have had Plasma on it I am not but I found it very nice and pleasant to work with
24:43 <MrMobodies> I am going to look at those too
25:11 <rust_collector> lxde and lxqt is a desktop made with openbox and added crap
25:15 <MrMobodies> https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fp1V8wM1osew%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
25:18 <MrMobodies> yep that looks good
25:38 <rust_collector> I saw they even had a plain openbox version.
25:48 <MrMobodies> What I'll try and uninstall that MATE and attempt install on that
26:00 <rust_collector> openbox is also one of those things that annoy me.
26:32 <rust_collector> I think it is just the messy xml configs, that they put in too many places. but it works just fine
26:50 <MrMobodies> oh I see it is disorganised
26:51 <MrMobodies> https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Framsdenj.com%2Fimages%2Fopenbox-configuration%2Fdesktop-large.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
26:53 <MrMobodies> Looks the business
26:58 <MrMobodies> ooops
27:05 <rust_collector> it should be pretty plain
27:19 <rust_collector> but is a desktop anyway
27:35 <rust_collector> oh well.
27:56 <MrMobodies> made a not on Openbox
28:09 <MrMobodies> oops *note
28:22 <MrMobodies> I mean in my list of things to experiment
28:48 <rust_collector> but you do like the graphic desktop stuff?
28:56 <MrMobodies> yes, but very minimal
29:02 <MrMobodies> not too bloated
29:42 <MrMobodies> Gnome2 with some small alternations was fine for me the one in 2010
29:55 <MrMobodies> I can get to where I want easily
30:03 <MrMobodies> no annoyance
30:17 <MrMobodies> no warnings like I am going to harm my system
30:25 <rust_collector> gnome2 was not bad. but it was not super lightweight either. not that that matters much these days
30:27 <MrMobodies> for the purposes i am going to use it for it isn't going to matter
30:41 <MrMobodies> the one I had 10 years ago, it was on a serverboard
30:48 <MrMobodies> with 2 xeons, and a pci graphics card
30:54 <MrMobodies> worked really smoothly
31:09 <MrMobodies> and played youtube videos very well at 360..
31:26 <MrMobodies> I think the graphics card was one of the dodgy cheap g6600 ones
31:49 <MrMobodies> that i got off Ebay
31:52 <rust_collector> I had it on my little netbook. debian with gnome2 and winders xp dual booted, from a little 8gb ssd
32:08 <MrMobodies> that's nice
32:20 <rust_collector> try that these days, lol
33:13 <rust_collector> well, I still have that little netbook. and it works well enough. the battery is very dead, but the rest is ok
33:40 <rust_collector> I wonder how I could see anything on that tiny screen
33:46 <MrMobodies> bet they'd be batteries on ebay, many that can't be trusted.
34:06 <MrMobodies> I had screen sizes of 1024 y 768 and it worked fine
34:11 <rust_collector> yep
34:14 <MrMobodies> the Ubuntu Gnome 2010 back then
34:24 <MrMobodies> I was very happy with it
34:35 <MrMobodies> Now I see a use for it
34:57 <MrMobodies> since I don't stick with Windows I want to diverse where I am in a position of control
35:39 <MrMobodies> once i find a way of getting it the I want it should be fine i think
38:53 <rust_collector> maybe I should try a virtual machine and see if I can do anything bsd on that. probably fluxbox. I like that one
39:39 <Halcyon> Heaps of lightning at the back of my place
39:41 <Halcyon> Started a bushfire
39:47 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
39:57 <rust_collector> hotdogs and burger time
40:02 <Halcyon> Although it's starting to bucked down with rain so I'd say it's taking care of itself
40:42 <MrMobodies> it is iced outside
41:12 <MrMobodies> I found these nice little drawer things on amazon
41:17 <Halcyon> It was about 35 degrees earlier, now about 24-25
42:13 <MrMobodies> it is 0c outside according to a sensor
42:14 <MrMobodies> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000KS8S9W
42:26 <MrMobodies> it has these interprosers which is somehting i like
43:10 <rust_collector> it is around 0c here too
43:11 <MrMobodies> and I got some plastic caddies to go with it to fit the solid state drives
43:12 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/xxZB9wH
44:04 <MrMobodies> I brought some more and they seem really nice
44:09 <rust_collector> you should probably take some old wd blue drives, and mill them until they are just caddies, lol
44:18 <MrMobodies> I don't have to build shelves of sacrice desk space anymore
44:31 <MrMobodies> I see that's an idea
44:48 <MrMobodies> as a 3.5 to to 2.5 inch frame
44:57 <rust_collector> yeh
45:25 <MrMobodies> I think I got them as a deal for £5 each but I'd see I got a broken ones to do that too
46:03 <rust_collector> I wonder what desktop computer would be best suited to use in cold weather
47:49 <rust_collector> we used the regular old hp elite8200 in the freezer at work. They did not seem to mind, but the screen was pretty much useless
50:40 <MrMobodies> one that get's hot?
51:20 <MrMobodies> I have a few old stuff that get's hot
51:32 <rust_collector> well, my old p4 box did not like being outside
51:42 <rust_collector> I had to tape up the vent holes
51:43 <MrMobodies> like a Dell with a Pentium 4 in there the pin socket type
51:52 <MrMobodies> oh
52:41 <MrMobodies> 10 years ago witn my first serverboard that was in the Coolermaster stacker
52:47 <MrMobodies> that had 8 scsi drives in
52:56 <MrMobodies> they were only 36gb at 15000 rpm
52:56 <rust_collector> the little core duo box I have out there now, does not seem to like being at all, lol. I have thought about seeing if I can fit a core2duo in it. that should perk it up a bit
53:02 <MrMobodies> and that heated the room upp all year
53:31 <MrMobodies> when I swapped them over for sata I didn't need to leave the window open anymore.
54:11 <rust_collector> hmm, that is a thing. I should probably close the windows...
54:14 <MrMobodies> I think too much cold air flow may not be a good thing for ageing power supplies
54:22 <steve30> hi
54:26 <MrMobodies> I had to leave mine open all year
54:31 <rust_collector> hi mr steve
54:57 <MrMobodies> Steve what does 30 stand for?
55:43 <MrMobodies> sorry I steve30
55:49 <rust_collector> I have a tent wall, that is hanging inside the garage door, so I almost never close the door. and the windows are open. I should probably close the windows, lol
56:12 <MrMobodies> I tell you what works VERY WELL that would be suited for outside
56:23 <MrMobodies> the HP GP 380DL
56:41 <MrMobodies> I had to fit fans in on the shelf and put cover over it
56:51 <MrMobodies> just so it would draw better out of the power supplies
57:02 <MrMobodies> that took a lot of power to run
57:11 <rust_collector> well, I think running a server would be a bit overkill for this. I just use it for a bit of browsing now and then
57:26 <MrMobodies> aah
57:52 <rust_collector> looking up this and that, when I am messing up things out there
00:05 <rust_collector> I guess... maybe even using a thin client would be enough. or perhaps I could use the little desktop that is there as a thin client
00:15 <steve30> MrMobodies, my first time on IRC was on ScoutLink IRC. I wanted something slightly more unique than steve, so I added the number of my scout troop which was the 30th Rotherham. Hence steve30.
00:54 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, steve is forever young (ish)
01:35 <rust_collector> I guess all the antioxydants in coffee does work
02:36 <MrMobodies> I see, joke: when he reached 30 he will not age
02:44 <MrMobodies> and he drinks 30 cups of coffee day
02:48 <rust_collector> yes
03:10 <MrMobodies> if the coffee machine works
03:16 <steve30> I am 30 years of age now, so we'll see
03:32 <MrMobodies> maybe i could freeze it and send it to you, then you'd have instant coffee when defrosts
04:17 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, did you bid on that coffee maker thing? or was it the kettle you wnated to bid on, I don't remember
04:21 <MrMobodies> sorry that was a joke too
04:51 <MrMobodies> do you have a coffee machine though?
05:26 <steve30> I have an espresso machine, but most of my coffee I do in a cafetiere
05:38 <rust_collector> oooh, fancy
05:56 <rust_collector> do you have your own seat there?
06:41 <MrMobodies> is it like one you put pods in?
06:51 <MrMobodies> that looks round like an ant
07:15 <MrMobodies> oh it espresso
07:19 <MrMobodies> sorry commercial
07:22 <MrMobodies> that's nice
07:36 <steve30> I just use the machine with loose ground coffee, although it does also accept Dualit Capsules.
07:58 <MrMobodies> that means you can make me great coffee one day
09:35 <MrMobodies> My parents brought a Dualit toaster and kettle 7 years ago
09:45 <MrMobodies> just after I brought the Graef kettle
09:47 <MrMobodies> and they still work
10:20 <rust_collector> I just have nasty drip coffee. it is very efficient
11:08 <MrMobodies> I remembered 20 years this brand they had at a school
11:15 <MrMobodies> it was called firecracker
11:21 <MrMobodies> and it gave all the staff headaches
11:38 <MrMobodies> after many complaints they switched back to tubs of nescafee
11:56 <MrMobodies> they did it to save money at first but they needed the coffee more
12:17 <MrMobodies> it was unheard of brand
13:15 <rust_collector> when I worked nights, getting things ready for the other people, having coffee ready was #1 priority. if people have coffee, anything goes. if not, it will be a long night with much nagging
14:51 <MrMobodies> I remembered at my school, use to make many trips delivering the coffee tubs
15:10 <MrMobodies> they gave me my own coffee cup and told me I had a job
15:28 <MrMobodies> and they said making the coffee was very important to then
15:35 <MrMobodies> and it had to be done in a specific way
15:40 <MrMobodies> dry cup
15:52 <MrMobodies> they put two spoons of coffee, one spoon of sugar
15:58 <MrMobodies> mix it with the spoon
16:07 <MrMobodies> and pour hot water
16:08 <rust_collector> ick. sugar
16:16 <MrMobodies> I didn't have the sugar
16:29 <MrMobodies> and some use to freeze it I think
17:01 <MrMobodies> I was only a student then and I never drank coffee until that point
17:04 <MrMobodies> now I am addicted
17:19 <rust_collector> yes, you can thank schoold for a lot of problems
17:40 <MrMobodies> well that school in the end helped me as best as they could
18:00 <MrMobodies> I got them to fight the Local authority who wanted the worst for me
18:09 <MrMobodies> when I was going stuff for them
18:17 <MrMobodies> I'd be working in the basement
18:21 <MrMobodies> they got me in one to one tutors
18:29 <MrMobodies> and the local authority didn't like that
18:45 <MrMobodies> because it had nothing to do with the national curriculum
18:57 <MrMobodies> despite it being GCSE and A level materials
19:23 <MrMobodies> apparently they wanted me not to do the GCSE's and do Key skills instead which I walked out of the meeting
20:00 <MrMobodies> they wanted to prepare me for horticulate or some job picking up rubbish and said my interests just "don't go"
20:11 <MrMobodies> they were not nice
20:17 <MrMobodies> but the school acted in my defence
20:40 <MrMobodies> and they sent me off to some places so I can learn the things i want
20:44 <steve30> Why would they want you to do Key Skills instead of GCSE? Key Skills are virtually worthless.
20:53 <MrMobodies> It was a special needs school
20:59 <steve30> ah
21:00 <MrMobodies> Tony Blair made many changes to it
21:13 <MrMobodies> they use to A level there but since a change in the curriculum
21:17 <MrMobodies> and policy
21:26 <MrMobodies> they had to withdraw it and some other subjects
21:37 <MrMobodies> they were told they had to focus on the curriculum set for them
21:42 <steve30> I did some Key Skills at college, but that was alongside a proper course (National Certificate and an NVQ)
21:43 <MrMobodies> so a lot of staff and students left
22:18 <MrMobodies> the key skills they were running had this computer sofrware package
22:25 <MrMobodies> it had animations, like an equation
22:40 <MrMobodies> but someone told me it didn't have any questions with an algebra of equations
22:59 <MrMobodies> the questions were very long and difficult to answer and it would be for something simple
23:19 <MrMobodies> in others words I was told they make the most easiests thing difficult on the materials they were using
23:32 <MrMobodies> and for people with a language disorder, that's not suitable
23:56 <MrMobodies> and the classroom teacher doing it wasn't even a qualified maths teacher, many students told me they refuse to turn up
24:06 <MrMobodies> but when I did course
24:17 <MrMobodies> they hired the maths tutor that helped me in a basement
24:30 <MrMobodies> he was retired and worked for the school for many years
24:45 <MrMobodies> the problem they wanted me to be in two places at the same time and i could
25:08 <MrMobodies> the students thanked me for it
25:45 <MrMobodies> were the training center was was in Chesterfield, and the place was a long way away.
25:59 <MrMobodies> so I focussed on one thing
26:47 <MrMobodies> Steve30, how did you find the Key Skills?
26:57 <MrMobodies> was it okay, relevant, patronizing etc?
29:24 <steve30> I did Level 1 communications, because i failed GCSE english, but being competant in the english language etc, i didn't really see the point in it. Then the next year I did level 2, as well as level 2 "working with others"
30:24 <rust_collector> heh, what is "application of number"
31:06 <Halcyon> There has been a pigeon hanging around my back deck all day, it's still there
31:14 <Halcyon> It let me get very close, hasn't tried to fly away
31:23 <rust_collector> pyro pigeon
31:42 <Halcyon> I made a little cardboard fort for it and now it's just sitting in there away from the rain
31:53 <steve30> rust_collector, probably remedial maths
32:42 <rust_collector> sounds boring
32:58 <Halcyon> Oh steve30, was going to ask, you, do you have any use for Firewire to IDE/SATA bridges?
33:00 <rust_collector> i should have that
33:06 * steve30 wonders whether to go out for a walk
34:02 <steve30> Halcyon, doubt it. Although I could do with a PCIe Firewire card for my modern PC and a PCMCIA card for a laptop
34:20 <Halcyon> I think I have one, I'll add it to your box-o-stuff
36:51 <steve30> Are PCIe to PCI adaptors a thing? So you can use PCI cards on newer PCIe machines?
37:05 <Halcyon> I think they are
37:10 <Halcyon> Startech I think make one
37:33 <Halcyon> https://www.startech.com/en-au/cards-adapters/pex1pci1
37:43 <Halcyon> Not cheap though
38:20 <Halcyon> It would only work for low profile cards as it would be too tall for full-height
38:29 <steve30> ahh, too expensive for my liking
44:27 <rust_collector> would this thing work? https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33050056272.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.4b906a14RO5TLN&algo_pvid=16ad7a6d-d4e5-4c72-b779-ef4c8ba0d4ac&algo_expid=16ad7a6d-d4e5-4c72-b779-ef4c8ba0d4ac-10&btsid=0b0a556116114705721297911e2dd9&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
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46:12 <steve30> hmm, don't know
46:37 <Halcyon> What are you wanting to do Steve?
46:47 <rust_collector> this one looks like it uses sata power: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000079783899.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.1.93d75e78cOaheq&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=a6e87592-1071-4f0d-9dac-17dafdfdbe65&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:a6e87592-1071-4f0d-9dac-17dafdfdbe65,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2361_668%23
46:47 <rust_collector> %233325%2312_668%232846%238110%231995_668%232717%237567%23953_668%231000022185%231000066059%230_668%233468%2315618%23973
47:05 <steve30> I was just pondering putting my PCI firewire card in a newer machine
47:22 <steve30> Don't know if using such an adaptor would work though. It may not.
47:30 <rust_collector> I do wonder why aliexpress think I am german
49:17 <Halcyon> I have a PCIe firewire card, I'll just sent it to you
51:43 <steve30> ooh,ta
51:52 * steve30 wants more coffee
53:17 Quit: pa1983 ([email protected]) Connection closed
58:42 <MrMobodies> back but wow
58:53 <rust_collector> ?
59:01 <MrMobodies> that pci bridge
59:06 <MrMobodies> https://media.startech.com/cms/products/gallery_large/pex1pci1.main.jpg
59:17 <MrMobodies> I don't like the look of those power cabes
59:29 <MrMobodies> dangly
59:48 <MrMobodies> it looks like they could just break off
00:08 <rust_collector> I think that is just the angle the picture is taken at?
01:15 <rust_collector> well, sure, they can probably break off, but I guess you would not move it around much, when it was installed
01:39 <MrMobodies> https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/15-158-165-09.jpg
01:49 <MrMobodies> I see if it through hole and not just soldered on
02:20 <MrMobodies> the pci bracket looks nice though to accommodate the low profile stuff
03:15 <MrMobodies> talking of firewire I have never had the opportunity to use it or came across anything that needed it
03:50 <MrMobodies> I think I did come across a Lacie with a Usb 2 and a firewire connector
04:03 <steve30> I have a Firewire CDRW drive which I haven't used in years. But I do use it for DV and for Macs in Firewire disk mode.
04:03 <MrMobodies> and some motherboards with headers for it
04:44 <MrMobodies> I guess it must be a fast CDRW
05:40 <MrMobodies> Can't that enclosure be opened to fit other drives?
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05:52 <rust_collector> probably
06:16 <steve30> Probably. It contains a Lite-on drive which is probably IDE.
11:00 <MrMobodies> ah there is one of this laptop
11:05 <MrMobodies> a small tiny 1934 port
12:43 <steve30> One of my Thinkpads has firewire
12:45 <rust_collector> i had that on an old dell. i think that was the only machine I have had with one
13:16 <MrMobodies> I was hoping to find slimline dvd drive enclosures
13:20 <MrMobodies> but can't find any
13:40 <MrMobodies> I have a few dvd drives out of video recorders with some lousy usb 2 enclosures
13:47 <MrMobodies> and they are not too great
13:59 <MrMobodies> put 5v in there it backfeeds down USB cable
16:15 <MrMobodies> I had one of USB 2 laptop cd drivers, on my desk many years ago
16:35 <MrMobodies> I connected the USB2 to the computer, and of couse it needed extra power
16:46 <MrMobodies> so I hooked it up to a atx power supply on the desk
16:52 <MrMobodies> when it was switched off
17:00 <MrMobodies> it caused the fans to spin around in the unit
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26:24 <MrMobodies> Here we go
26:25 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/xoqfLbm
26:50 <MrMobodies> the power fan spun around when it off switched off
27:03 <MrMobodies> I traced it to the USB2 drive on my desk
27:10 <MrMobodies> as I was using it to power it up
27:26 <MrMobodies> but the thing is only 5v but the fan is 12v
27:46 <MrMobodies> it didn't drive anything else but I found it bit scary
31:50 <MrMobodies> oh dear, the drive with OpenBSD won't clone correctly. Partitions are there but won't boot despite sector by sector copy.
42:49 <MrMobodies> time to give Clonezilla a try
43:46 <rust_collector> if the stuff is there, maybe you need to fix the bootloader?
48:40 <MrMobodies> I don't know how to do that
49:19 <MrMobodies> I am sure there is a way but that would defeat the purpose of cloning them
49:25 <rust_collector> not me either. and I do not even know what bootloader it uses
49:47 <MrMobodies> I suppose I could find out how to do it but it'd be like a burden
50:01 <MrMobodies> so I want ot clone 4 copies of the GhostBSD
50:06 <MrMobodies> and do all sorts of things
50:32 <MrMobodies> one of them is to uninstall the MATE that came with it and install LXDE or that other thing you told me about
51:23 <MrMobodies> but the other Freebsd stuff cloned okay including Pfsense
52:12 <rust_collector> As it is 9 in the morning, I made a freedos virtual machine... I have no idea why
55:10 <MrMobodies> with the lockdown and everything I suppose the only thing to do
55:25 <MrMobodies> sometimes I do stuff without knowing why
55:34 <MrMobodies> just to stop me getting bored
56:06 <MrMobodies> I just plugged the drive into the Areca raid controller
56:25 <MrMobodies> BAD the cloning doesn't work for single drives has to be in a raid oh well
56:36 <MrMobodies> just loading Clonezilla now
57:04 <MrMobodies> even though the clone option is under "pass through drives"
00:08 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
00:26 <T3sl4> Heylcyon
00:37 <Halcyon> If I wanted to spin my own little PCBs for myself, is it cheap?
01:03 <Halcyon> Basically this: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40-Pin-CF-compact-flash-card-to-3-5-IDE-converter-adapter-PCI-bracket-b-ji/402543261700?hash=item5db972b804:g:atIAAOSwuV1cnHxN&frcectupt=true
01:20 <T3sl4> yes
01:38 <T3sl4> basically that, but what?
01:57 <Halcyon> I dunno, I don't like Chinese quality stuff
02:09 <Halcyon> And I've never made a PCB (except for hand-etched stuff in high school)
02:24 <MrMobodies> I have a few of adapters those somewhere
02:26 <Halcyon> Thought it might be a neat little project
02:48 <MrMobodies> oh they're sata
02:57 <MrMobodies> to compactflash
03:29 <MrMobodies> you planning of using one of those for something?
03:52 <Halcyon> Old PCs
04:36 <MrMobodies> looks very handy for that sort of thing
04:41 <Halcyon> Although looks like the price for the CF sockets alone wouldn't make it worth while: https://au.element14.com/amp-te-connectivity/5788643-1/connector-memory-socket-50pos/dp/2452677?st=compactflash
04:46 <T3sl4> i got a few of those, just plain boards, i left em hanging on the end of the cable because why bother
05:07 <Halcyon> That's basically what I want, is a makeshift Disk-on-Module
05:08 <rust_collector> i wanted that kind of thing a long time ago, but cf cards were not very cheap. unless they were very small
05:09 <T3sl4> (as in, boards with assembled parts, no bracket)
05:31 <T3sl4> are CF going up in price now that they're functionally obsolete?
05:45 <Halcyon> *shrug* I have a whole bucket full of them
05:47 <rust_collector> I have no idea
05:54 <T3sl4> and, a "long time ago" they might've simply been expensive, yeah
06:06 <Halcyon> Mostly out of Cisco routers/switches I've pulled apart over the years
06:11 <rust_collector> I guess it was... in 2008
06:20 <rust_collector> so just a little while ago
06:32 <T3sl4> the 128MB card my old 2004 digital camera came with, is in my XT (via XT-IDE)
07:06 <T3sl4> i probably had a gig card by 2008, dont remember exactly
07:13 <T3sl4> wouldn't have been more than... $40 at the time??
07:33 <rust_collector> no, bu tthat was plenty, when I did not really need it
07:41 <T3sl4> probably less, flash wasn't that pricey by then was it
08:28 <rust_collector> and, I think I was looking for a speedy 2 or 4 gb one. I wanted to install my os to it.
08:34 <Halcyon> T3sl4, do you use Signal?
08:51 <T3sl4> anyways, yeah, making your own is a bit of a PITA, the parts in one-offs aren't any cheaper than a ready assembly from china, and you have to look up all the pinouts, and learn the EDA tool, and probably muck up the pinout and have to do it over etc :P
09:02 <Halcyon> Yeh fair enough
09:11 <T3sl4> nah, but i have telegram
09:20 <Halcyon> Bah
09:40 <rust_collector> telegram is nice
10:54 <T3sl4> i guess they're about the same?
11:04 <Halcyon> mailhttps://imgur.com/a/ndqp6pq
11:08 <Halcyon> Dammit
11:08 <Halcyon> https://imgur.com/a/ndqp6pq
12:11 <Halcyon> Most of those would be plenty for a DOS/Windows 3.11 machine
13:42 <rust_collector> yep
14:11 <Halcyon> My first actual PC was a 486 with a 420MB hard disk
14:23 <Halcyon> Actually I lie, I did have a 286/283 before that
14:32 <Halcyon> *386
14:53 <rust_collector> wow, fancy
15:39 <rust_collector> the first one "I had" was an 8086
15:53 <T3sl4> i still have my first, 8086
15:56 <Halcyon> I had Z80 based machines before that
16:38 <rust_collector> I think it is annoying that you could do so much with those old things
16:51 <MrMobodies> with those compactflash they'll load up quick
17:02 <T3sl4> RAID them
17:09 <MrMobodies> I once had a Tandon 286 with a 10 meg hard dirve
17:13 <MrMobodies> it was given to me
17:22 <T3sl4> and use them for, uh... a stupid SSD cache? there's only a few gigs in that bin :P
17:23 <MrMobodies> sadly I don't have it anymore
17:42 <MrMobodies> but I still got some old 486 laptops upstairs
17:47 <rust_collector> I mean, the one I had was running at around 8mhz, and I think it ran stuff ok? I mostly used it for autocad
17:48 <MrMobodies> Toshiba
17:58 <Halcyon> I just bought 10 of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/254784004694
18:04 <Halcyon> Check enough
18:05 <Halcyon> *Cheap
18:17 <MrMobodies> autocad? did you have a 3d card to go with it?
18:54 <MrMobodies> I mean the ones for cad
19:14 <rust_collector> I have no idea. but autocad was not 3d
19:22 <Halcyon> Heheh "Estimated delivery, February to April"
19:31 <Halcyon> Go China Post :P
20:07 <MrMobodies> oh silly me I know they had graphics cards for that sort of thing though
20:14 <rust_collector> they are pretty random
20:24 <MrMobodies> I got some somehwere
20:31 <Halcyon> I tell you what would be super handy to have, an M.2/NMVe adapter that suits all the various different key types (including all the proprietary Crapple ones)
20:50 <Halcyon> M.2 to SATA I should say
21:03 <rust_collector> m2 to sata is pretty handy
21:05 <MrMobodies> it was one of these: http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/vlask/intergraph/intense3dpro3410u.jpg
21:20 <MrMobodies> and it had a secondary board
21:26 <Halcyon> MCA ?
22:25 <MrMobodies> you got an old IBM?
22:50 <Halcyon> Do I?>
23:00 <rust_collector> mca? I did not know you listened to beastie boys
23:13 <MrMobodies> oh sorry, Micro channel architecture
23:15 <Halcyon> The only IBM I have is a PS/2 and it has ISA slots
23:30 <MrMobodies> I still have an 8595
23:37 <MrMobodies> with only 16mb of memory
23:47 <MrMobodies> picked it up for £4 down Derby bootsale in 2001
23:54 <MrMobodies> I haven't turned it on for many years
23:55 <Halcyon> Mine's a Model 30/286
24:07 <MrMobodies> I did manage to get a 10mbp network card during tha titme
24:10 <MrMobodies> oooh nice
24:10 <T3sl4> who knew IBM's failed bus is from brooklyn
24:38 <MrMobodies> I guess the ISA bus modems were more popular
24:42 <rust_collector> yeah, that is something
24:49 <MrMobodies> OOPS *BUS
24:57 <rust_collector> BUS!!!!
25:01 <T3sl4> BUHS!\
25:04 <MrMobodies> I put modems in by mistake
25:12 <rust_collector> MODEM!!
25:23 <MrMobodies> ooh I sa bus models of IBM
25:36 <hsn> good morning babies
25:39 <Halcyon> I have some old Netcomm and Rockwell-based modems somewhere
25:40 <rust_collector> IBM modems
25:40 <T3sl4> mo' DEM
25:42 <Halcyon> Hey hsn
25:51 <hsn> o/
26:08 <rust_collector> mo' dem was og
26:12 <MrMobodies> morning
26:17 <Halcyon> I remember the Rockwell (then later Connexant) modems were awesome
26:20 <MrMobodies> I mean't models not modems sorry
26:25 <T3sl4> fuck winmodems
26:28 <Halcyon> I could sustain 6-7 KB/sec down back in the day
26:29 <MrMobodies> I had one of those
26:34 <MrMobodies> came with an Advent
26:44 <MrMobodies> the rocketl 28k turned out to be quicker
26:55 <MrMobodies> the one that was on the Aztech soundcard
27:23 <MrMobodies> when I used that it didn't disconnet as much
28:00 <MrMobodies> I noticed it was slower than the other modems I had
28:35 <MrMobodies> but I didn't realize it had no DSP in there as to why it slow
29:05 <MrMobodies> it was suppos eot be 56k, but I was only getting 20k or less than that
29:18 <hsn> u nerds are doing it again arent you ? talking about networking stuff
29:27 <MrMobodies> and it oh sorry
29:28 <hsn> :P
29:37 <T3sl4> hsn: penis penis vagina
29:38 <Halcyon> I miss the old Windows dial-up networking: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_2QfbvCEpAkFL9Sh_FO-4xgTLGkPqHTei9Q&usqp=CAU
29:41 <MrMobodies> Joke: Rock that Well
29:41 <rust_collector> yes, public transport and gangster rappers
29:46 <Halcyon> And before that, Trumpet Winsock
30:01 <hsn> T3sl4, remind me of american pie
30:29 <rust_collector> T3sl4, come on, make him remember american pie
30:43 <MrMobodies> there is a song in the 80's that reminds me of my old Raid 2 setup
30:53 <MrMobodies> where they were under load
30:59 <T3sl4> raid II mirror legends
31:28 <hsn> wasab rusty
31:34 <rust_collector> electric eye.... in the skyyyyyy
31:37 <MrMobodies> https://youtu.be/G_2aSqF6JHU?t=207
31:39 <rust_collector> hey you
31:52 <hsn> any good news with u ?
31:55 <rust_collector> nope
32:06 <rust_collector> still snowing and still not in bed
32:18 <T3sl4> wasabi?
32:18 <MrMobodies> actually it is iced out there
33:05 <MrMobodies> well it kinds of reminds me of seeing all those lights flash
33:22 <MrMobodies> when the controller was under heavy load
33:30 <MrMobodies> and it would do burst writes
33:43 <rust_collector> you should get a computer that blinks like a 70's dance floor
34:01 <MrMobodies> Chaka Khan - I Feel For You - 3:30 in the track
34:08 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2aSqF6JHU
34:52 <rust_collector> I did not know you were into that metal stuff
35:05 <hsn> wasabi i never taste but heard its hot/bit
35:41 <rust_collector> we don't get real wasabi up here. and that is ok
36:02 <hsn> japan on your left or ur right
36:14 <rust_collector> yes
36:17 <hsn> i mean .. r u facing down or up .. when u look to world map :D
36:41 <rust_collector> wth? did you forget sleeping too?
37:08 <hsn> nah i just didnt log in for long time and u forgot my questions
37:08 <rust_collector> if I am facing up or down when I look at a map
37:09 <hsn> :P
38:36 <rust_collector> well, if I look at a map like I do, japan would be down and to the right.
39:10 <hsn> ok so u look at the map from south to north
39:17 <rust_collector> no
39:21 <rust_collector> well, yes
39:27 <hsn> but no ?
39:31 <hsn> yes but no
39:40 <rust_collector> nah, but ok
39:51 <hsn> good
40:54 <rust_collector> ok?
41:37 <rust_collector> I really do not want to go to japan
44:59 <hsn> why not
45:15 <hsn> in japan u can say takadimas
45:44 <rust_collector> I can probably say that here as well. it is not like anyone listens anyway
46:03 <hsn> Itadakimasu
46:21 <hsn> nah in japan u can say it and ppl listen
47:20 <rust_collector> I would not be so sure
48:34 <rust_collector> otoh, chairman mao was 180cm tall, so maybe
48:58 <hsn> 180cm means tall or short
49:17 <rust_collector> well, I would say normal sized
49:30 <hsn> xlarge
49:30 <rust_collector> he was 2" taller than hitler
49:42 <hsn> eevblog convert 2" to cm
49:42 <EEVBlog> The result is: 5.08 cm
49:55 <hsn> maybe the hair
53:11 <rust_collector> when dad was in china, he was looking down on all the people. and he is not very big. I think that was the best thing about china for him
54:30 <rust_collector> Bahrain
54:30 <rust_collector> 	
54:31 <rust_collector> 165.1 cm (5' 5")
54:31 <rust_collector> 	
54:31 <rust_collector> 154.7 cm (5' 1")
54:40 <rust_collector> is that true?
56:02 <rust_collector> or is that how wide you are, because you look at things in the wrong direction?
57:59 <rust_collector> http://www.wecare4eyes.com/averageemployeeheights.htm
02:46 <hsn> wait
03:10 <hsn> idk but im 186cm and im little above average
03:25 * steve30 puts a pasty and chips on
03:46 <T3sl4> on who?
03:48 * rust_collector considers going to steve
03:55 <Halcyon> Mmmm pasty
04:02 <steve30> on a baking tray
05:06 <Halcyon> I need to find thick rice noodles for tomorrow
06:46 <T3sl4> that's using your rice product
07:04 <hsn> mmmm fooood
11:25 <T3sl4> f0000000000d!
11:54 <hsn> 0xf00dbabe
13:13 <T3sl4> 0xcafeb00b
13:54 <hsn> 0xfaceb00c
14:15 <hsn> ! $934k 1337
14:56 <hsn> T3sl4, https://wallet.fail/wallets/nanos/firmware-f00dbabe/
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16:09 <T3sl4> i'm subbed to liveoverflow :)
16:13 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ0iTszVE2U
16:19 <Halcyon> This is you
18:24 <hsn> does gay ppl speak like this ?
18:30 <Halcyon> Some do
18:32 <Halcyon> I don't
18:32 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
18:49 <hsn> is there a reason for that?
19:09 <Halcyon> That's just how they are
19:21 <Halcyon> It's not always by choice
19:35 <hsn> so its not like they try to speak like this ?
19:40 <Halcyon> I guess gay people in your country are a bit more private and suppresseD?
19:50 <hsn> yes but some are not
19:51 <Halcyon> No hsn, some gay guys are just more "fem"
20:01 <Halcyon> Have you not met gay people before hsn?
20:04 <hsn> fem = female ?
20:10 <Halcyon> Feminine
20:22 <Halcyon> Then you have "masc" (Masculine) gay guys
20:29 <hsn> Halcyon, i saw few on the street
20:44 <hsn> but never met and chat with or somthing like that
20:55 <Halcyon> Oh OK
21:13 <hsn> in here as u know its not acceptable thing
21:22 <Halcyon> I understand
21:28 <hsn> so some are "showing it" on purpose
21:28 <T3sl4> a gay friend of mine, he calls those kind of people "fags" :P
21:39 <hsn> and u can say that the do talk like this on purpose
21:50 <Halcyon> T3sl4, pretty much
23:03 <Halcyon> hsn, if you were to meet me, I'd be more like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wimopo9_OWY
23:08 <Halcyon> (Not the queeny one)
23:31 <T3sl4> but yes, it's part of the subculture, theres various reasons for being effeminate
24:50 <T3sl4> Halcyon, that's an enormous jade plant
24:59 <Halcyon> Jade plant?
25:09 <T3sl4> seems weird to see one planted in front of a house
25:28 <Halcyon> Hahaha OK
26:00 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassula_ovata
26:21 <T3sl4> you'd like it, it's a succ
27:04 <Halcyon> I have a few succulents
30:14 <steve30> Halcyon, i saw a guy yesterday who looked like Brian jordan alvarez
30:16 <Halcyon> I reckon Alec from Technology Connections is gay
30:19 <Halcyon> He is rather camp
30:26 <T3sl4> i can see that
30:27 <Halcyon> Hot Steve :)
30:40 <steve30> my gaydar beeps when i watch Alec
31:31 <Halcyon> He interests me
31:47 <steve30> he's not my type
31:50 <T3sl4> he can make anything interesting
31:57 <Halcyon> And our favourite gay, Clive Mitchell is gay
31:59 <Halcyon> :P
32:23 <steve30> Have you converted David2 yet? :p
32:35 <Halcyon> Hahaha
32:51 <Halcyon> I don't mind Angus from Makers Muse either ;-)
33:01 <Halcyon> He is cute in a nerdy way
33:31 <Halcyon> He lives in Sydney
34:52 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://youtu.be/plbB42EUIUU?t=302
34:55 <Halcyon> How the hell would that work?
36:07 <T3sl4> a couple coils inside, have to hook up some long wires for antenna, phones is usually high impedance (crystal?) headphones
36:29 <Halcyon> But what's that crystally thing and "cat whisker" on top?
36:33 <T3sl4> the crystal not being a packaged diode, you have to hunt around for a region on the sample that has a rectifying junction
36:43 <T3sl4> it's probably galena
37:24 <steve30> a piece of whatever material it is with a pointy bit of metal forms a crude diode
37:27 <T3sl4> natural composition, so who knows what doping. pretty random, so you can find spots with resistance, diodes, etc
37:41 <Halcyon> Okies
39:46 <hsn> so Halcyon what is "the label" thingy they are talking about in the video
40:09 <Halcyon> hsn: Some people don't believe in being labelled gay, straight, bi, unicorn... whatever
40:19 <Halcyon> They just "are"
40:49 <hsn> there is unicorn ?
40:55 <hsn> what is unicorn lol
40:58 <Halcyon> I was being silly :P
41:12 <hsn> oh lol i thought there is somthing else i dont know about
41:14 <Kuschelpony> http://pics44.de/img/i/a/g/8ap65j8y.jpg
41:22 <Kuschelpony> yes there is
41:33 <Halcyon> :P
41:35 <hsn> nah that unicorn i know
41:49 <Halcyon> But yeh, some people just like to men who sleep with other men, or men and women
41:50 * steve30 passes hsn a "gender unicorn"
41:55 <Halcyon> But don't like to be "labelled" as gay or bi
41:58 <Halcyon> Or pansexual
42:01 <Halcyon> Whatevers
42:13 <hsn> i see
42:24 <hsn> the "i dont care" type
42:25 <hsn> :P
42:35 <Halcyon> They care but don't care
42:39 <Halcyon> *shrug*
42:45 <hsn> yeah
42:52 <T3sl4> hey, there's plenty of weird MLP fans out there
42:53 <Halcyon> Each to their own
42:59 <Halcyon> MLP ?
43:24 <Kuschelpony> i dont like that feeling of "beeing labeled" as well, but i can see how useful it can be when other people are looking for a quick direction instead of a lengthy explanation (that they then later put into a possibly wrong mental drawer)
43:33 <hsn> mlp - milf lover porno
43:37 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/JckZp.png
43:38 <Kuschelpony> MyLittePony universe
44:01 <Halcyon> So Kuschelpony, while on the subject, without labels, how to you define yourself?
44:04 * T3sl4 gives Kuschelpony a carrot
44:16 <Kuschelpony> back: so i prefer to label myself that they can read, instead of letting them to mislabel me
44:49 * hsn label him self as hsn
44:50 <Kuschelpony> i am not sure, maybe Queer Asexual is the best description or whatever
45:07 <Halcyon> You don't do the sex?
45:17 Nick: hsn is now known as Armpera
45:18 <Kuschelpony> right
45:28 <Halcyon> I'm the total opposite
45:53 <Halcyon> I enjoy sex... a lot... but I am choosy
46:01 <Armpera> i dont want to google it in company network .. what is queer asexual ?
46:04 <Kuschelpony> i am fa-----------ar more into other physical sensations and experiences, than in that kind of sex
46:05 Nick: Armpera is now known as hsn
46:22 <Kuschelpony> Asexual is you have other interest than sex
46:22 <Halcyon> Queer generally implies anything other than "straight"
46:30 <Kuschelpony> queer is you are outside of gender roles
46:32 <Halcyon> Asexual means you have no interest in sex
46:39 <Halcyon> (or sexual things)
47:04 * steve30 misses the good old days when people could just be gay or straight
47:38 <Kuschelpony> if i would be forced to take THIS either ... or ... i would call gay to be the least worst, but it still doesnt match
47:47 <Halcyon> It doesn't bother me too much
48:42 <Kuschelpony> well, it DOES matetr a lot if you want to go to a club and drink a coffe (outside of Coronavirus issues)
49:18 <Kuschelpony> so depending on which label others give you, the same club cost you either 15 or 120� for entrance
49:21 <rust_collector> mmm coffee
49:37 <rust_collector> whaaa?
50:41 <Halcyon> Kuschelpony, WHA?
50:41 <rust_collector> If you pay 120, I hope you can at least get a coffee included
50:55 <rust_collector> a big one
52:45 <Kuschelpony> Halycon: when you are looking for that kind of "Wellness" club that is primarily run by hetero swingers who consider unpartnered male bodied humans to be the enemy and cash cow in one
53:05 <Halcyon> Wellness club?
53:12 <Halcyon> Also, this blew my mind: https://youtu.be/plbB42EUIUU?t=820
53:24 <Kuschelpony> while i really dont care about swingers and all, i stil lwould live to drink a coffe, might try a dance, or go for a relax in their pool
54:11 <Kuschelpony> they officially call themself to be "Wellness clubs" here in the coarse area, to make a bist distinguishing from "we are not a pure swinger sex club but offer more themes and events"
54:39 <Halcyon> Right
54:43 <steve30> so probably a bit like a "sauna" or a "massage parlour"
54:55 <Kuschelpony> yes...
55:25 <Halcyon> Which is surprising for someone who doesn't do sex
55:26 <steve30> On that subject, I wonder how the coronavirus restrictions have impacted the gay sauna business
55:33 <Halcyon> You are quite the riddle Kuschelpony
55:52 * steve30 hasn't had sex in ages :(
56:01 <Halcyon> :(
56:10 <rust_collector> I wonder why you don't live in finland. sauna, bathing, and lots and lots of coffee
56:27 <Halcyon> Sauna's are very very different there
56:30 <Halcyon> Not a sexual thing at all
56:39 <Halcyon> I grew up with a sauna at home
57:07 <steve30> saunas and "saunas" are different things :p
57:11 <Halcyon> Yep
57:23 <rust_collector> I know, so that should fit nicely
57:25 <Kuschelpony> i am just multidimensional
57:57 <Halcyon> Also pronounced differently, in Finland, it's more like "sa-ow-na"
58:01 <Kuschelpony> and well, sauna and everything, while i never wanted to visit that special one again...
58:40 <Kuschelpony> most of them are closed since spring 2020 t prevent spreading the virus
59:08 <Halcyon> You would think that the virus wouldn't survive in a sauna
59:32 <Halcyon> Not like the crappy 60 degrees westerners have it, but 90-100+
59:52 <rust_collector> that is a thing. I wonder how the viruses would react to an evil sauna
00:18 <Halcyon> I think the survival rate drops significantly at elevated temperatures, like most viruses
00:23 <Kuschelpony> well, its part of the political measures, less of actual science...
00:31 <rust_collector> yep
00:43 <rust_collector> but it would be interesting to find out
00:48 <Kuschelpony> here in germany everythign is geared to protect what they call the "core family"
01:09 <Kuschelpony> dealing like a different lifestyle is a luxury option
01:31 <Kuschelpony> hmm, as far as i know the virus is killed by 3 hours at 60�C
01:35 <Halcyon> https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-020-01418-7
01:44 <Halcyon> Maxmium 24 hours at 40 degrees
01:58 <Halcyon> So I'd imagine double that, it would be a matter of seconds or minutes at the most
02:16 <hsn> i want my pasta
02:41 <Halcyon> Then have your pasta hsn
02:56 <hsn> its on delivery
03:07 <steve30> i just had my pasty and chips. Now I fancy something else
03:09 <Halcyon> Ah
03:21 <Halcyon> steve30, toasted cheese sandwich
03:47 <Halcyon> If you have a non-stick pan, put the cheese directly on the pan, let it melt then place fresh bread on top
04:00 <Halcyon> Continue "grilling" face down until the cheese goes all crispy and golden
04:57 <steve30> hmm
05:17 <Halcyon> Trust me, works really well, it will stick initially but just be patient
05:17 <Kuschelpony> i had researched specifically for 60�C as this is the maximum storage temperature of my mask, to safely sanitze it
05:33 <Halcyon> If you have a silicone spatula, it works well
05:48 <rust_collector> I was wondering if I maybe have to make pancakes
06:12 * steve30 recommends against wearing masks
06:24 <Halcyon> Masks have their place
06:28 <Halcyon> Annoying as they are
06:36 <Halcyon> We have had no recorded cases in 7 days
07:25 <steve30> we're down to 33000 cases per day
07:34 <rust_collector> I had to wear a mask on the plane, which I guess makes sense
07:34 <Halcyon> Winning :P
07:54 <Halcyon> Planes, public transport, close proximity to people, you should absolutely have one on
08:08 <Halcyon> They are as effective as hand washing
08:29 <T3sl4> sure am glad people like steve30 are around, perhaps they won't be much longer :)
09:03 <Halcyon> I hate wearing a mask, but I do it because it's for the greater good, even though I am largely exempt due to work
09:14 <rust_collector> Ok, I should look up the statistics again
09:15 <Halcyon> But off duty, I still wear it at the shops
09:36 <Halcyon> Oh in other news, the new saliva test is so much easier and quicker
09:40 <Halcyon> No more sticks up the nose
09:46 <Halcyon> I did it yesterday
10:29 <rust_collector> we have had 60565 cases reported, since they started testing here
10:40 <Halcyon> Where you at rust_collector ?
10:44 <rust_collector> norway
10:56 * steve30 hasn't had a coronavirus test
10:58 <rust_collector> I guess that is ok, for a year and a bit
11:15 <rust_collector> 2425 has been sent to hospital
11:23 <Halcyon> We had 6 cases in the whole country yesterday, none in my state for the past week
11:37 <Halcyon> 28.7k total cases since forever
11:39 <rust_collector> 544 died, maybe for this, maybe not
12:11 <Halcyon> steve30: Most people don't need one unless they are at high risk of contact
12:34 <Halcyon> Since I literally deal with people who are confirmed positive at work (in the last week), it's fair that I get tested each shift
13:33 <Halcyon> But yeh, the masks and all that, it's just a temporary measure for now. Once the vaccine is rolled out to the majority, we can get back to normal.
13:33 <steve30> I've been coughing etc for the last week or two. I'm just patiently waiting for some unqualified person to try and diagnose me with coronavirus :P
13:40 <Halcyon> I'd say by the end of the year, we'll be done with it
13:50 <rust_collector> I don't have to worry much about this thing, as I can not even remember the last time I talked to anyone at work.
13:56 <Halcyon> steve30: Why not get the test? It's simple
14:16 <rust_collector> Halcyon, I bet we will not be done by the end of the year
14:18 <Halcyon> That's the definitive way to tell whether you have it or not
14:24 <rust_collector> we are retarded up here
14:58 <Halcyon> The vaccine is rolling out for first responders/high risk people here from next month, followed by the general population.
15:24 <Halcyon> Once the vast majority are vaccinated, then we just have to worry about the few who don't believe in vaccines or the virus.
15:28 <rust_collector> I think we are still only doing the old and sick people here
15:35 <Halcyon> But hey, might help smarten up the gene pool a little
16:10 <steve30> There is a very good non-coronavirus-related explanation for the coughing. So I won't be getting a test and risking pushing the numbers up.
16:25 <Halcyon> How would you push the numbers up?
16:36 <Halcyon> Just go to a testing centre, get it done, go back home
16:54 <rust_collector> nah, I think we need something better than this, to make a noticable difference in smartness
17:11 <steve30> I've actually contemplated getting the vaccine if/when its available, but having recently lost whatever faith I have in the medical profession, I now don't think I'll bother.
17:13 <Halcyon> Even if you are positive, with a mask and hand santisaing, your chance of passing it on is slim to none.
17:42 <rust_collector> snort hand sanitizer, that will fix something
18:06 <Halcyon> Yehhh maybe not :P Whilst it's alcohol, it is literally poison to your body
18:24 <rust_collector> meh, I drink the stuff all the time. it is not that bad
18:32 <Halcyon> Hand sanitiseR?
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18:49 <rust_collector> well, it is glycol of some kind, and ethanol
18:50 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
18:59 <rust_collector> hoioo mr kraut
19:02 <Halcyon> Drinking alcohol is different to the stuff you put on your hands :P
19:10 <rust_collector> no, it is not
19:14 <Halcyon> Aww now I feel like sourkraut
19:30 <rust_collector> but it is mixed with some kind of gunk, to make it thicker
19:46 <Halcyon> Some are mixed with methanol
19:47 <Halcyon> Which is not good
20:00 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. fiske! and mr. headstand is there, too!
20:02 <rust_collector> the stuff I use, is made in a place I go to pick it up at. and it is real ethanol.
20:18 <Halcyon> Headstand?
20:29 <rust_collector> if they are mixed with ethanol, they have to be labeled as such
20:37 <Ysjoelfir> from my perspective you are inverted on the big ball
20:40 <rust_collector> methanol
20:46 <Halcyon> Hahaha
20:52 <Halcyon> Oh speaking of balls
21:00 <Halcyon> Mars is visible at the moment
21:04 <rust_collector> he is on the other side of the dirt disc
21:28 * steve30 feels cold
21:37 <Halcyon> Might be the rona Steve :P
22:06 <rust_collector> yes, if you feel cold, snorting sanitizer will get you feeling nice and warm again
22:11 * Ysjoelfir wanted to cuddle steve30, but decides to put on his gas mask before doing that after halcyons warning
22:25 <Halcyon> My warning?
22:26 <Halcyon> :P
22:37 <rust_collector> Oh, I am not here.. mmm
22:40 <rust_collector> there
22:41 <steve30> Medication withdrawal effects are a far more likely diagnosis. Hence my comment about waiting for people to wrongly diagnose me with coronavirus.
22:58 <Ysjoelfir> ah, thats fine then :)
23:00 <Halcyon> I don't think anyone is going to "wrongly" diagnose anyone
23:01 * Ysjoelfir hugs the steve
23:07 <Halcyon> The only thing that can do that is a diagnostic test
23:12 <rust_collector> random people on the street would
23:22 <rust_collector> correct or not
23:38 <Ysjoelfir> true. also random people looked at me with a strange look recently when I was shopping with the mask. I dunno why
24:09 <rust_collector> you forgot the ghettoblaster with hardbas....
24:09 <Halcyon> Masks are mandated in Sydney at the moment, you'll get looks if you don't have one
24:24 <rust_collector> not masks like Ysjoelfir has
25:20 <Halcyon> https://d2fzf9bbqh0om5.cloudfront.net/images/835070/main/novelty-ball-gag-face-mask-rebelsmarket.jpg?1586029648
25:23 <Halcyon> This type?
26:13 <rust_collector> If I got it right, it is more like this one: https://www.surpluscity.com.au/products/black-soviet-gp-5-gas-mask
26:20 <Halcyon> HAHAHAHA
26:27 <Halcyon> Well, it would probably be very effetive
26:33 <rust_collector> yes
27:08 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that one, but in beige, not in black :)
27:15 <rust_collector> ah
27:20 <steve30> I went past a stall at the market a while back that sells old military stuff, and the gas masks were labled "Covid-19 Shopping Essentials"
27:58 <rust_collector> up here, we are still at the "snowman noses" labels for carrots....
30:15 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E2i48GR2kE7LdE_S53_6xfoE11RFL-to/view?usp=sharing
30:32 <Halcyon> Hahaha
30:36 <Halcyon> That is so effing creepy
30:43 <Halcyon> What's with the shower cap?
30:50 <Ysjoelfir> I decided to add SWMBOs hair cover to make it look less creepy^^
31:04 <rust_collector> it is a soviet bicycle seat cover
31:09 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
31:15 <Halcyon> Hahahahaha
31:49 <Halcyon> What sort of filter is in the canister?
32:56 <rust_collector> armpit
33:19 <rust_collector> awww. I was going to make pancakes, but we don't have milk
33:23 <steve30> Halcyon, do you wear a mask when you have sex?
33:52 <Halcyon> What? No?
33:56 <Halcyon> That's just stupid
34:05 <Halcyon> Unless you're into that kind of thing
34:35 <Halcyon> I only wear a mask when shopping
34:42 <Halcyon> Everywhere else or if I'm working, I don't
35:38 <steve30> I gather mask wearing helps with 'safe sex' nowadays :)
36:00 <Halcyon> Meh
36:05 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, I don't use one of the old style canisters as they are known to contain asbestos. I used a Dräger combinationfilter 1140 A2B2 P3 R D
36:21 <Halcyon> I love Drager products
36:41 <Halcyon> We use them for roadside drug/alcohol testing
36:57 <Halcyon> Actually maybe we don't anymore, I cant remember who makes them now
37:09 <Halcyon> Alcohol I think is made by Lion instruments
37:10 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir shopping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSmaURx_myo
37:36 <Halcyon> https://www.draeger.com/en_aunz/Applications/Products/Alcohol-and-Drug-Testing/Drug-Testing-Devices/DrugTest-5000
37:40 <Halcyon> Those are the ones we use for drugs
37:51 <Ysjoelfir> Dräger is probably the only company available in germany for good quality stuff that has to do with gasses
38:11 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty
38:34 <hsn> rust_collector: this message probably would come if u were the programmer
38:45 <Halcyon> I don't fully understand this "Slav" thing
38:54 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ztjNZEPSp9HM1TVJA
39:21 <rust_collector> hsn, close
39:26 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
39:39 <hsn> rust_collector: there is no close button on ur messages
39:47 <rust_collector> right
39:56 <rust_collector> you made an error, you fix it
40:13 <hsn> yes
40:19 <rust_collector> message goes away when you fix
40:39 <hsn> restart ?
40:52 <rust_collector> install slackware
41:06 <hsn> no slackunaware ?
41:13 <rust_collector> and stop filling your confuser with shitty games
41:34 * steve30 coffees
41:36 <Ysjoelfir> starbound is nice
41:41 <rust_collector> no,
41:46 <hsn> i have no idea about it .. just saw the image
42:37 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, how long until daddy ?
42:51 <rust_collector> 48"
43:00 <hsn> " being minutes ?
43:00 <Ysjoelfir> It died some weeks ago, so minus infinity I would say
43:10 <hsn> oh
43:14 <hsn> sorry
43:30 <Ysjoelfir> nah, its fine, I'm long over it
43:35 <Ysjoelfir> ready for the next try :)
43:50 <hsn> more perception supplements again ?
44:16 <hsn> i went to pharmacy and he is telling me .. usually u need maybe 3 months or somthing
44:19 <Ysjoelfir> We decided to stop that for the moment, because in germanistan you are only allowed to get those six times. we wanted to try without for a bit again
44:21 <rust_collector> still not ideal. how is swmbo doing
44:30 <Ysjoelfir> she's fine as well
44:36 <rust_collector> oh good
45:00 <hsn> well hope u hear the nice news soon
45:12 <Ysjoelfir> I hope so as well :D
45:30 <Ysjoelfir> We'll see. I'm positive, we're still young-ish, so it'll work out some day
45:45 <rust_collector> not quite ancient yet
45:54 <hsn> and 2nd one .. tell me good one now .. :: how was ur "negotiotation"
46:24 <hsn> thats how i spell words without google correct^^
46:31 <hsn> nego...tion
46:44 <Ysjoelfir> xD
47:05 <Ysjoelfir> It was.... ok. though I am not confident I'll want to work there.
47:29 <hsn> let me pm u somthing and try if it works
47:43 <hsn> recieved ?
49:56 <Ysjoelfir> nope
50:01 * Halcyon installed a CD-ROM drive in T3sl4's computer
50:11 <Halcyon> *installs
50:27 <hsn> seems like somthing wrong with the znc
50:53 <hsn> few days ago there was somthing related to znc not connecting to austnet
50:55 <hsn> ListTrustedServerFingerprints
51:10 <hsn> and somthing was like addfingerprint that i had to do
53:18 <rust_collector> update your css
53:33 <hsn> css ?
53:40 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/zp43er.jpg
53:46 <hsn> common security shits ?
53:53 <Halcyon> hsn, there was an issue with an expired SSL cert
53:59 <rust_collector> cascading style sheets
54:32 <hsn> Halcyon, so i think i re"updated" the finger print ..
54:42 <hsn> but somehow Ysjoelfir doesnt recieve my pm
54:44 <rust_collector> what is that in your pic?
54:48 <hsn> can someone pm me actually ?
55:17 <hsn> rust_collector, meaning ? i cant open it again .. but its the znc command thing
55:30 <hsn> :>
55:43 <hsn> i think i know what it is
55:44 <hsn> lol
55:46 <hsn> rust_collector :You need a registered nickname to message this user
56:03 <rust_collector> yes, you have to be in-in, not just in
56:54 <hsn> appearantllllly
56:56 <hsn> i was only in
57:15 <rust_collector> your znc thing looks weird
57:40 <hsn> how to change passwd
57:44 <hsn> /passwd ?
58:41 <hsn> why is that
58:42 <Halcyon> OK, now I have seen everything: https://autoblow.com/ (NSFW!)
59:46 <steve30> are you getting one?
00:13 <rust_collector> I guess it makes sense that they used a screw drive for that, but...
00:14 <Halcyon> Heh, no
00:18 <rust_collector> he is waiting for the hydraulic one, as they don't wear out so fast
02:09 <rust_collector> with the small diesel pump unit
02:12 <steve30> Halcyon, does Mark do a better job than a machine?
02:17 <Halcyon> ;-)
03:25 <Ysjoelfir> that vid is very.... fascinating
04:29 <Halcyon> You're going to order one aren't you?
05:32 <Ysjoelfir> I am considering it xD
05:36 <Halcyon> Hahaha
05:42 <Halcyon> We expect a full report
06:05 <Halcyon> They have sales on accessories: https://autoblow.com/category/autoblow-ai-accessories/
06:42 <Ysjoelfir> woah, they have a low budget version as well!
08:07 <rust_collector> I know there is a small german webshop that needs to get done
08:13 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
08:29 <Ysjoelfir> you think I could resell these?
08:51 <rust_collector> i actually think even you would have a problem with using all of htem
08:51 <Halcyon> Why not ? :P
08:52 <Ysjoelfir> damn, the low cost version is 130$!
09:14 <Halcyon> How can you put a price on pleasure? :P
09:29 <rust_collector> and... well. I think it was designed with germans in mind
10:15 <Ysjoelfir> they even offer a VR headset XD
10:29 <Halcyon> We should all chip in for Ysjoelfir :p
10:43 <Ysjoelfir> lol
10:58 <Ysjoelfir> no thanks, I think swmbo wouldn't be "pleased"
11:10 <Halcyon> Then ask her to buy you one :P
11:19 <rust_collector> I think you can fit an extension on the shaft there
11:46 * steve30 quite likes his fleshlight
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> lol
12:00 <Halcyon> Still waiting for your videos to come out Steve
12:33 <steve30> I haven't made any :p
12:49 <rust_collector> that could be why
12:55 <Halcyon> Well get on it :P
18:28 <steve30> i have wondered if i'd be any good at porn, but i've never tried to make anything.
19:00 <Halcyon> Well, I thihk you have the right features
19:11 <Halcyon> But it all comes down to personal preference. Everyone has a type
19:13 <Ysjoelfir> I appreciate what these folks are trying to do but you can't just boil a blowjob down to speed, friction and lubrication! A good blowjob is like a work of art, like a god damn symphony of beautiful elements working together! Sure, a machine can cover the basics but a machine can't give you that sultry eye contact. A machine can't moan in pleasure like your dick is made of fucking chocolate! And maybe most importantly, this thing doesn't have
19:14 <Ysjoelfir> a tongue and that's like the secret ingredient in the blowjob recipe. (Or hands for that matter, hands are key too, if it's being done right). To be fair, I have to add that the Autoblow will never accidentally nick you with its teeth and it never gets tired or complains, so it has it's good points too! Really though, this toy is good and maybe just what you need if you're otherwise deprived. As someone who has a high standard for blowjobs,
19:14 <Ysjoelfir> this falls short, but as someone who prefers toys to my own hand, it's one of the better ones I've tried. YMMV
19:19 <Ysjoelfir> By "sloppybobber"
19:20 <Ysjoelfir> XD
19:45 <Halcyon> Hahaha
20:35 <rust_collector> and it does not have retainers
25:59 <Halcyon> Aww Pinball Fantasies
26:03 <Halcyon> I remember that game
27:20 <Kuschelpony> nothing better than Pinball Dreams on Amiga
28:04 <Kuschelpony> and i still remember how 25 years ago a couple of friends started to build a pinball console with Tv picture tube as virtuell pinball table :)
28:44 <Kuschelpony> but we moved away in the pre-internet-era and lost contact before finishing
30:31 <steve30> I'm sure Halcyon would watch some steve30-porn
30:32 <Ysjoelfir> I absolutely love two pinball games: 3D Ultra Pinball - Timeshock (with the cute siera fluffball intro!) and Psycho Pinball. I have both on original Floppies and even the "sign chart" to unlock the "copy protection"
31:03 <Halcyon> I think Sim City 2000 is my all-time favourite game
31:16 <Halcyon> steve30, I would
33:03 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
33:08 <Halcyon> Amperaaaaa
33:09 <Kuschelpony> i know one room that you should have visited for a week in 2018... crammed with almost all retro computers and soem other 80s and 90s hardware
33:27 <Ampera> that's my alias, if you wear it out, I'll kill ya
33:43 <Halcyon> Kuschelpony, if you ever make it to Australia, there is a bar in Melbourne that has retro consoles and arcade machines
34:03 <Kuschelpony> oh interesting
34:10 <Halcyon> https://bartronica.com.au/
34:16 <Kuschelpony> what i meant was a meetup of collectors
34:38 <Kuschelpony> memories to years that appear like gone forever
37:24 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
38:20 <Halcyon> Doing good
38:28 <Halcyon> How are you?
38:44 <Ampera> getting dressed, didn't sleep great last night
38:49 <Halcyon> :(
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51:51 <rust_collector> whoa!
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54:13 Nick: Ysjoelfir_ is now known as Ysjoelfir
00:57 <hsn> /pong Ysjoelfir
03:05 <Halcyon> :)
03:18 <hsn> (:
03:44 <Ampera> the hessian and hsn
04:37 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/H1vdnPiHoNoVrB2K7
05:09 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse
05:37 <hsn> dont dig my history
05:51 <Ampera> ain't your history, you're neither german nor american
06:05 <hsn> according to wiki its a NUTS Region
06:15 <Halcyon> Sounds like Ampera
06:28 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, whats nuts region lol
06:37 <rust_collector> no units to spare
06:59 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-level_NUTS_of_the_European_Union#Germany
07:41 <hsn> There are three levels of NUTS defined
09:41 <hsn> enough fun, or i kick my self into nuts ... going back to work cya
13:33 <Ysjoelfir> huh, whats with my nuts?
14:06 <rust_collector> THEY LOOK DRY!
14:27 * Ysjoelfir waters his nuts
24:06 <Halcyon> Big Clive's voice is so soothing
25:45 <rust_collector> are you binge watching chunky clive videos today?
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46:01 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder what that fuckfart founds so amusing about entering with a name, referint to some random political stupidity, and leaving again.
46:37 <rust_collector> well, most of the time he does not even say anything
46:48 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
47:04 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I find so strange
47:35 <rust_collector> he is people, is what I think
47:46 <Ysjoelfir> probably
57:50 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should build in a little load on the output of this little power supply. but otoh, I will probably not need it when I put a load on it...
58:52 <Kuschelpony> does it need a minimum load for regulation?
59:35 <rust_collector> well, it is the most basic lm317, I think it wants a little bit?
59:50 <Kuschelpony> on the LM317 you dont need additional load
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