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00:06:32 <steve30> hi
00:22:09 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
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00:26:36 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
00:28:31 <Ysjoelfir> more plx
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00:33:24 <steve30000> hi
00:33:44 <Ampera> hi steve30000 how are you doing
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00:34:01 <TheDude> g'day
00:34:09 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you doing
00:34:14 <TheDude> pretty good
00:34:21 <TheDude> I just figured out something really cool
00:34:42 <TheDude> I can do complete FPGA development on my measly underpowered laptop
00:34:54 <Ampera> indeed, if you take a mayo jar and bang it on the bottom of a table, you can get out the bit at the bottom
00:35:29 <Ampera> the day I learned that revolutionized my process of mayo consumption
00:35:34 <TheDude> okay, so you know how I'm connecting to the workstation through the internet
00:35:36 <TheDude> but
00:35:45 <TheDude> I can also run a hardware server for xilinx on the laptop
00:35:59 <Ampera> why couldn't you
00:35:59 <TheDude> and have the debugger accessible through TCP/IP
00:36:18 <TheDude> so I can just open another tunnel and have the remote workstation connecting to the hardware server running on the laptop
00:36:30 <TheDude> and the workstation can control the debugger attached to the laptop :)
00:36:59 <TheDude> \o/
00:37:02 <TheDude> how cool is that?
00:37:22 <Ampera> sounds like networking
00:37:29 <TheDude> rn I'm building a petaloonix :3
00:37:44 <steve30> i didn't sleep too well. Got woken up by lots of banging.
00:37:50 * TheDude slaps Ampera with a large steve30bot
00:37:59 <TheDude> SHARE MY EXCITEMENT, DAMNIT
00:38:02 <Ampera> steve30, I haven't slept well for an entire week
00:38:18 <Ampera> tonight was a bit better, but only because I did a good six mile walk right before bed
00:38:28 <TheDude> nice
00:38:28 <Ampera> and I still was restless through half of it, and had to sleep way past the time I wanted to
00:38:43 <TheDude> :(
00:38:49 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:39:01 <Ampera> it's all stress and anxiety induced, so there's not much I can do about it
00:39:24 <K> try some banging
00:39:42 * Ampera bangs K
00:39:50 <K> no, im taken
00:39:57 <Ampera> yes, now, by me.
00:40:03 <TheDude> :D
00:40:06 <K> oh
00:40:14 <TheDude> sssh, K, just let it happen
00:40:25 * Ampera glares at TheDude
00:40:28 <Ampera> >:D you're next
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00:40:56 <TheDude> :D
00:41:00 <Ampera> they always come back
00:41:05 <TheDude> hahaha D
00:41:49 <Ampera> D
00:41:54 <TheDude> this linux build is doing a fair bit of stuff, it seems
00:42:05 <Ampera> when you say build, do you mean compile?
00:42:10 <Ampera> or just assembling an image
00:42:14 <TheDude> lots of action going down in the console
00:42:23 <TheDude> I think it's compiling, yes
00:42:23 <Ampera> that's how most scripts do
00:42:27 <Ampera> nice
00:42:43 <Ampera> now that I do a lot of compiling, having a powerful CPU is great
00:42:51 <TheDude> assembling the image will be the next step
00:42:56 <Ampera> when I have my own place, I've thought about setting up a distcc cluster
00:43:16 <Ampera> the only problem I have is I'd like there to be distributed compilers for more languages, in particular .NET
00:43:26 <Ampera> maybe there are, I just need to research it
00:43:32 <TheDude> .net is kinda eh
00:43:35 <Ampera> I use it for work
00:43:45 <TheDude> needs that bloody runtime if you want to run the software anywhere
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00:43:55 <Ampera> so does everything, including C
00:44:04 <Ampera> well, libraries, not runtimes
00:44:09 <TheDude> okay
00:44:25 <TheDude> errr... does .net come preinstalled on win 10 by default?
00:44:29 <Ampera> yes
00:44:34 <TheDude> I recall the times of .net 2.0
00:44:39 <TheDude> you had to manually install that shit
00:44:52 <Ampera> a lot of the web is written in .NET too
00:44:54 <TheDude> so sending any of my little programs to anyone required them to first install that shit
00:45:24 <TheDude> so that was kinda offputting
00:47:05 <Ampera> since everyone who will ever use my code work for a company that does mostly .NET programming, it's not a big deal
00:47:22 <TheDude> fuck
00:47:25 <Ampera> who
00:47:29 * Ampera glares at K
00:47:29 <TheDude> one task failed in the build
00:47:39 <TheDude> something to do with python and device tree
00:47:39 <K> wot?
00:47:49 <Ampera> K, when TheDude says fuck, I listen.
01:03:02 <TheDude> welp, I figured out what the problem is
01:03:09 <TheDude> now I just need to figure out how to solve it
01:34:12 <steve30> My Mum seems to be fumbling around with the modem/router wiring
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01:49:05 <electrohead> o/
01:50:28 <steve30> \o
01:51:04 <electrohead> hey mate
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01:58:00 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
01:58:38 * steve30 meows at Ysjoelfir
01:59:09 * Ysjoelfir offers the steve a seat in the giant plushie kitty bed to his feet
01:59:43 <steve30> *purr*
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02:20:24 * steve30000 coffees
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02:33:31 <Ysjoelfir> https://youtu.be/f2o674eyaXk?t=108 THAT'S a whole lotta cameras!
02:40:58 <electrohead> why?
02:41:00 <electrohead> just.. why?
02:41:03 <electrohead> heh
02:44:26 <electrohead> wish needs to be shut down
02:45:31 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
02:45:50 <Ysjoelfir> instead they go for alibaba
02:46:04 Quit: Icedream ([email protected]) Quit: A lol made me boom.
02:46:11 <electrohead> alibaba is just as bad :p
02:46:15 <electrohead> well, I think, anyway
02:46:20 <electrohead> ebay is bad enough, lol
02:46:26 <Ysjoelfir> but alibaba isn't as present here :D
02:47:01 Quit: Watcher ([email protected]) Quit: i'am out
02:47:03 <Ysjoelfir> everytime I hear someone mention wish and how great it is and all the cheap, high quality stuff you can get there I want to puke
02:47:28 <steve30000> I've seen videos about Wish stuff, but when I've looked at their website it needs a username/password, so i can't actually see anything on there.
02:48:12 <Ysjoelfir> you didn't miss out on anything, steve
02:48:19 <electrohead> yeah, not at all
02:48:22 <electrohead> :p
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02:50:01 <steve30000> not sure i see the point in such sites
02:50:38 <Kuschelpony> a tech question: do you have recommodations for software other than audiotester.de to measure frequency sweeps and also calculate Thielle-Small-Paramters ?
02:50:48 <electrohead> steve30000: they're just in the market to rip people off, nothing more, nothing less
02:50:51 <Kuschelpony> ideally native on linux
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03:17:26 <electrohead> Kuschelpony: in particular, are you looking for general spectrum analysis software?
03:18:23 <Kuschelpony> not spectrum, but audio frequency network analysis
03:19:01 <Kuschelpony> so the software maks a frequency sweep, records amplitude and phase of an voltage divider between reference resistor and speaker
03:19:26 <Kuschelpony> and specifically calculates the equivalent circuit of the speaker, or the Thielle-Small-Parameters
03:20:02 <Kuschelpony> older versions of Audiotester in dfemo mode worked, but the recent one that i almost bought has changed a lot and did not work succesful when trying
03:20:47 <rust_collector> well, can you use an old version?
03:21:12 <Kuschelpony> maybe, but before i pirate an old version (if i find a trustful download) i prefer to find somethign else
03:21:19 <Kuschelpony> ideall free anyway
03:22:58 <electrohead> looking around, I came across this - http://linux-sound.org/dsp.html
03:23:29 <electrohead> do think, however, that some of the software listed may be out of date for quite some time
03:24:08 <electrohead> ehh, yeah, a lot of these links don't work
03:33:14 <electrohead> just to post this - https://github.com/tlecomte/friture
03:33:28 <electrohead> pretty sure that doesn't have everything you are looking for, but is just something I came across
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03:35:36 <Kuschelpony> hmm, thanks
03:44:41 <arch> put a ground plane right below a shielded inductor, or nah? (i don't mean a ground plane on the opposite layer--i mean a ground pour right between the spacing of the inductor)
03:45:16 <arch> i do know it's considered bad practice to do it from non-shielded inductors
03:45:22 <arch> for*
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03:59:34 <K> steve3e100
04:14:54 * arch puts K inside a chlorine tank to make some salt
04:15:20 * K potasses, violently
04:26:57 * Ysjoelfir adds some natron
04:27:42 * rust_collector feels like he has to add something too, so he adds a spoon of cinnamon
04:28:37 * electrohead sprinkles on some nutmeg
04:34:13 * arch adds in a pinch of cocaine
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04:45:50 <Andre> Oh, we're cooking?
04:48:19 <arch> we're making a turbocharged RedBull alternative
04:48:34 <arch> involving cocaine, potassium, acid, and other fun chemicals
04:54:41 <T3sl4> K: https://i.imgur.com/egHHyhD.jpg
04:54:57 <K> yeah, somth like that
04:56:37 <arch> is it a bad idea to use ceramic caps for snubbing? the capacitance reduces dramatically with voltage bias. should i be using polyprop film caps?
04:57:49 <arch> T3sl4, opinions on layout? (it's not done yet, but this is close to final layout i would say): https://i.imgur.com/1PmGUC0.png
04:58:01 <rust_collector> we have been eating different kinds of potatoes all week. so just for fun I suggested fries today, and that is wht I got
05:00:06 <arch> i wish kicad would auto update the netlist...smh
05:00:19 <arch> every time i change values in the schematic, i have to make the damn netlist
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05:08:55 * Ysjoelfir wants some fries as well
05:11:06 * hsn fries Ysjoelfir
05:11:29 <arch> didn't know michael jackson had a distribution company: https://i.imgur.com/5cw6EjH.jpg
05:13:27 <coppice> arch: he probably fitted than in when the structured programming course business was a bit quiet
05:14:45 <electrohead> arch: lol
05:15:08 <arch> that's a truck i saw about a year ago. im just looking through my random pictures library
05:15:12 * electrohead offers egss and sausage
05:28:51 * Ysjoelfir is fried. yay
05:30:01 * rust_collector tastes Ysjoelfirs ear
05:31:03 <hsn> https://youtu.be/dsODRfCMRoM
05:31:07 <hsn> biden sings trump dances cat vibes ( Ievan Polkka ) deepfake
05:31:24 <rust_collector> hi sand man
05:32:00 <hsn> hi rust_man
05:32:11 <hsn> how have u been in 21
05:32:38 <rust_collector> gaining fat
05:32:51 <hsn> nice
05:32:56 <hsn> fat is nice
05:33:52 <hsn> haha: https://youtu.be/k_UvlHASTuY?t=43
05:34:35 <hsn> rust_collector, i sold my bitcoins and now it hits 3xk
05:34:44 <hsn> 32k
05:35:01 <Ysjoelfir> so now you are a even richer sandman?
05:35:03 <hsn> so im losing fat
05:35:23 <hsn> nah Ysjoelfir i sold it .. :( its keep rising
05:35:53 <rust_collector> but mow much did you lose from the time you got it?
05:36:13 <hsn> no i didnt lose .. i just lose the profit
05:36:33 <rust_collector> no, you just do not gain the profit you could have had
05:37:16 <hsn> yes
05:37:24 <arch> i found a picture of the shitty ass PCB design for a 74HCxx series logic thingabob that i had to make at City Tech. ugh, so godawful. look at this design. there is no ground plane either, so it used to pick up any stray noise and activate the LEDs: https://i.imgur.com/rdZROxA.jpg
05:37:41 <arch> note that i did not make that pcb. someone got PAID to make that pcb
05:37:52 <rust_collector> but we like blinking leds, no?
05:37:56 <arch> did they let their 5 year old kid loose on that shit?
05:38:04 <hsn> everything is sharp angel
05:38:11 <hsn> angle
05:38:13 <hsn> angel
05:38:42 <arch> this is the state of "engineering" colleges these days
05:38:53 <arch> better off learning from youtube and experimenting on your own
05:38:56 <hsn> which witch watch which watch
05:40:34 <arch> i call it "Shitty Tech". don't go there...if anyone in NYC is considering that place...dont
05:41:08 <hsn> whats ur goals for 2021
05:41:19 <arch> get an android gf
05:41:56 <hsn> Girl friend? arch
05:42:11 <arch> naw, fuck that. i want to learn more about EE
05:42:25 <arch> i was gonna get a spectrum analyzer for christmas, but im just going to wait a few months more
05:42:26 <hsn> arch: ee gf?
05:42:51 <arch> the chances of finding a woman EE is lower than finding a needle in a haystack
05:42:54 <hsn> The lady who wants to play with electrons
05:44:08 <rust_collector> I bet lots of people want to tazer arch
05:44:22 <rust_collector> some of them has to be female
05:44:24 <arch> sry, im not into the electrofetishes
05:44:49 <Kuschelpony> and why not? :)
05:44:49 <hsn> arch: Women usually read gossip magazines  
05:44:49 <hsn> but there are women who prefer to make love with electrons  
05:45:20 <hsn> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/what-an-oscilloscope-recommended-for-a-woman-passionate-about-electronics/
05:45:42 <arch> are you fucking kidding me...36 pages of responses? nobody would bother if it was a dude
05:46:05 * arch 's S I M P detector starts beeping rapidly and smoking
05:46:19 <hsn> arch: that was halarious
05:46:35 <hsn> After few months .. a man did posted copy pasted
05:46:43 <K> everyone is a dude on the internet
05:46:46 <rust_collector> there are probably 36 pages of men asking about scopes, that has no replies at all. it evens out
05:46:49 <arch> suuure..."Charlotte" from Switzerland. what are you wearing, "Charlotte"? .... "Ummm...khakis?"
05:48:53 <hsn> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/what-a-screwdriver-recommended-for-a-man-passionate-about-electronics/
05:49:21 <hsn> rust_collector: it was going to 36 but dave closed it
05:49:50 <arch> LOL!
05:50:27 <hsn> I'd like to start a seductive relationship with a screwdriver.. ^
05:50:35 <hsn> This guy
05:58:00 <T3sl4> there's a lot of toxic masculinity in electronics, go figure
05:58:48 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, why are you not working on your store? !!?
06:00:20 <T3sl4> arch: whatever snubs, works. impossible to say without context
06:00:26 <T3sl4> layout is probably fine
06:00:37 <Ysjoelfir> that is actually a very good question. I make a postit and stick it to my screen to remind myself to do that the upcoming week
06:00:47 <rust_collector> yeah
06:01:09 <rust_collector> then have some cake
06:01:23 <T3sl4> rust_collector, why are you not storing your work???
06:01:44 <rust_collector> work?
06:01:55 <rust_collector> I never did anything
06:03:23 <rust_collector> When I grow up, I will maybe buy a work
06:03:47 <K> get two
06:05:15 <hsn> https://youtu.be/DfaYKYFYHBk
06:09:28 <arch> comments off = instant dislike
06:11:02 <hsn> https://youtu.be/ZSljO3DqDDU
06:11:08 <hsn> Comon its funny
06:13:01 <arch> hsn, https://9gag.com/gag/aeAK8rQ
06:14:22 <hsn> arch: few days ago one stupid guy was horkjng on me
06:14:37 <hsn> I just hit strong brake he get afraid
06:14:44 <hsn> Little basterds
06:14:59 <hsn> Honking
06:15:29 <arch> yep, happens in every shithole country. USA included.
06:15:45 <rust_collector> good times, let them honk
06:19:09 * electrohead honks rust_collector
06:19:50 <Ampera> we live in a honk honk world
06:21:28 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/ze3KhlI.jpg
06:28:15 <K> haha
06:28:24 * electrohead offers food
06:28:55 <arch> T3sl4, this might be a dumb question: when im using a coupled inductor, i use HALF the value required. so for example, if they ask for a 4.7uH inductor (single), i should use a 2.2uH coupled inductor?
06:29:14 <T3sl4> wat
06:30:31 <arch> due to mutual coupling, a 2.2uH coupled inductor in series-mode has a value of 4.4uH, right?
06:30:41 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/47l2Evf.jpg
06:31:04 <T3sl4> are you using it in series?
06:32:05 <K> https://pics.me.me/65-wat-exactly-65-wat-was-given-that-day-48838153.png
06:32:31 <TheDude> any of you linux wizards ever have to configure a device tree?
06:32:35 <arch> the schematic looks like this. the phases are opposite, therefore, the connection is series, right? https://i.imgur.com/AWaZfyR.png
06:33:21 <arch> if that DRAQ127 inductor is specified at 10uH, that configuration there would make it effectively 20uH due to coupling?
06:33:30 <Kuschelpony> arch, if a half of the inductor has 2,2�H then with perfect coupling both halves in series have 8,8�H
06:33:49 <arch> ooh . right, L = N^2 * Al
06:34:19 <T3sl4> µ
06:34:46 <arch> but mu is a constant for the same material wound on the same core, isnt it
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06:35:07 <arch> brb lunch
06:35:19 <Kuschelpony> mu is a constant for the material, and with the actual size you get the Al
06:35:29 <T3sl4> arch, use the inductance calculated for the configuration you're using. simple as that.
06:35:49 <T3sl4> trying to mix configurations and calculations isn't a good idea (e.g. using buck calculation for this)
06:36:36 <T3sl4> find the calculations in the appnote or run the waveforms yourself it's easy enough
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06:39:15 <electrohead> TheDude: not yet, but I do have something saved in my bookmarks: https://elinux.org/Device_Tree_Usage
06:39:19 <electrohead> and - https://elinux.org/Device_Tree_Reference
06:41:03 * T3sl4 decorates electrohead's tree
06:41:11 <TheDude> ugh
06:41:24 <TheDude> the petalinux thing somehow auto-generates the device tree files
06:41:36 <TheDude> and I apparently need to add some information in there
06:41:54 <TheDude> but I can't seem to figure out where I need to add that so that after the auto-generation, the stuff is where I need it
06:42:07 <electrohead> what do you need to add?
06:42:27 * electrohead accepts the decorations
06:43:27 <TheDude> hold on
06:44:21 * electrohead holds onto T3sl4's tree
06:44:39 <T3sl4> wait, are you decorated, or are you the decoration
06:44:50 <T3sl4> or both, it could be recursive
06:45:13 <electrohead> we're both recursive at this point
06:45:15 <electrohead> :p
06:45:23 <electrohead> infinite loops \o/
06:46:01 <T3sl4> i'll yin your yang...!
06:46:47 <TheDude> okay, so this is the auto-generated pcw.dtsi
06:46:50 <TheDude> https://pastebin.com/X2aHBe2Y
06:47:21 <TheDude> https://pastebin.com/5TuAx9de
06:47:27 <TheDude> this is what needs to be added inside
06:47:34 <TheDude> the phy1 part
06:49:01 <TheDude> https://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/61117.html
06:49:14 <electrohead> does it need to be merged, or does it need to replace phy1?
06:49:20 <TheDude> it gives an example of how something should look, but not how to get there
06:49:28 <TheDude> merged
06:49:34 <TheDude> thy phy1 needs to be added in there
06:49:44 <TheDude> there is no other definition of phy1 in the device tree
06:50:29 <electrohead> ok, give me like 5-10 minutes right quick, and I can attempt to merge these, and then see if you can get (it) to compile?
06:50:51 <electrohead> mind you, I haven't had the need yet to do anything with device trees, so I'm learning along with you
06:50:54 <electrohead> :p
06:51:05 <TheDude> uhm... don't you need like multiple other files to go with it?
06:51:14 <TheDude> there are like 4 relevant dtsi files in there
06:52:08 <electrohead> show me all of them?
06:52:48 <electrohead> you just posted the auto-generated dtsi file before, along with what needs to be merged; I'm under the assumption (you) can manually merge that in, just as long as nothing conflicts
06:53:11 <electrohead> but if you're saying there are more dtsi files, would all of them need to be merged together, in order to compile?
06:55:14 <TheDude> yes, most likely
06:55:22 <TheDude> hold on, let me figure out how to copy all of it
06:56:21 <TheDude> uhm... there are like 12 gigs of data in that project folder now
06:59:20 <TheDude> alright
06:59:25 <TheDude> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1r9q9t9txze4wkq/EBAZ_test.zip?raw=1
06:59:39 <TheDude> this contains all of the relevant data, methinks
07:00:29 <TheDude> System_wrapper.xsa was generated by vivado when the PL stuff was generated
07:00:52 <TheDude> it contains the information that the petalinux uses to configure the thingamabobs
07:01:24 <TheDude> then inside components\plnx_workspace\device-tree\device-tree is the auto-generated stuff
07:02:03 <electrohead> alright, back
07:02:40 <TheDude> and supposedly, the way to adjust these, is to add stuff to project-spec\meta-user\recipes-bsp\device-tree\files\system-user.dtsi
07:05:09 <TheDude> you can see, I've already added stuff in there
07:06:29 <electrohead> ok, so, I'm trying to follow this the best I can
07:07:00 <electrohead> the auto-generated pcw.dtsi file - this already has a definition for &gem0
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07:07:47 <electrohead> for system-user.dtsi - from what I'm reading, wouldn't you need to define that as &gem1 instead?
07:10:36 <TheDude> I was led to believe that I could redefine it
07:13:28 <electrohead> well, have you tried renaming it to &gem1 in system-user.dtsi and tried recompiling?
07:15:06 <TheDude> is there no way to modify the original?
07:15:32 <TheDude> gem1 is a different ethernet peripheral inside the device
07:16:36 <electrohead> oh oh, so there are two different physical peripherals?
07:16:38 <electrohead> hrmm
07:17:34 <electrohead> I'm just trying to understand - so what's defined in system-user.dtsi, is that supposed to overwrite what originally gets auto-generated?
07:18:25 <TheDude> I'm guessing the auto-generation must be copying data from somewhere
07:18:32 <TheDude> I'd like to find that somewhere
07:19:07 <TheDude> also, yes, two ethernet interfaces inside the zynq
07:19:24 <TheDude> you could create more in PL, if you needed them
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07:24:14 <electrohead> components/plnx_workspace/device-tree/device-tree/zynq-7000.dtsi
07:24:35 <electrohead> I see two definitions(/declarations?), gem0 and gem1
07:27:16 <electrohead> I'm trying to avoid looking at the files that specifically say 'auto-generated'
07:30:51 <TheDude> gem0 is the right one
07:37:18 <K> meanwhile - https://preview.redd.it/v9xzaltx8x861.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=d888cde903f8d07014f43265504a04f6b99f6e83
07:37:54 <TheDude> electrohead, https://pastebin.com/jjb2NcZd
07:38:12 <TheDude> this is what I get when I try to build
07:41:24 <electrohead> sorry, I'm here, trying to fix a weird error with my path directories being duplicated
07:43:41 <electrohead> how many physical ethernet peripherals are there?
07:44:17 <TheDude> 2
07:44:25 <TheDude> just one is being used atm
07:45:56 <electrohead> ok ok
07:46:04 <electrohead> trying not to get confused :p
07:48:00 <electrohead> well, searching for both phy0 and phy1: components/plnx_workspace/device-tree/device-tree/pcw.dtsi
07:48:10 <electrohead> phy1 is mereless being defined in that file
07:48:22 <electrohead> whereas, in project-spec/meta-user/recipes-bsp/device-tree/files/system-user.dtsi
07:48:45 <TheDude> that stuff in system-user.dtsi was added by me
07:49:15 <TheDude> but something isn't right about that, as the build is telling me there is an invalid device tree when i try to build
07:49:47 <electrohead> hrmm, maybe change it to phy1 in system-conf.dtsi, and see what it spits out, error wise?
07:50:01 <Lord_of_nothing> hey
07:50:06 <electrohead> hey Lord_of_nothing
07:50:14 <Lord_of_nothing> How does everyone feel today?
07:50:51 <electrohead> headaches for TheDude and me, as we attempt to figure out how to configure device trees
07:50:54 <electrohead> :p
07:51:16 <Lord_of_nothing> on which device?
07:51:21 <TheDude> zynq
07:51:26 <Lord_of_nothing> whats that?
07:51:34 <Lord_of_nothing> today i feel depressed
07:51:39 <TheDude> xilinx SoC
07:52:34 <Lord_of_nothing> oh you try to programm a cpu?
07:53:48 <TheDude> huh? no
07:54:07 <TheDude> I'm trying to get petalinux to work on it
07:55:12 <electrohead> Lord_of_nothing: https://github.com/xjtuecho/EBAZ4205
07:56:19 <Lord_of_nothing> i heards about xilinx before maybe. Something in my brain rings...
07:57:45 <TheDude> I just got an idea
07:57:48 <TheDude> gonna try something
07:58:10 <Lord_of_nothing> i feel depressed not even spammer contact me on my dating site
07:58:25 * Ampera hugs electrohead
07:58:41 * electrohead counter-hugs Ampera
07:58:51 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
07:59:05 <electrohead> not sure, yet :p
07:59:08 <electrohead> you?
07:59:10 <Ampera> haha
07:59:18 <Ampera> I just got a free computer
07:59:31 <electrohead> what have you acquired?
07:59:34 <Ampera> an iMac of some sort, G5 or later
07:59:42 <Ampera> no clue which one yet
07:59:48 <electrohead> ooo, you get arch running on it, yet? :p
08:00:09 <Ampera> no because it's still in my mom's boyfriend's truck sitting right next to me
08:00:30 <electrohead> TheDude: what are you trying?
08:00:41 <rust_collector> something, he said
08:01:16 <electrohead> lol
08:01:24 <Ampera> not sure what I'm gonna put on it either. If it's a G5, possibly FreeBSD or OpenBSD
08:01:34 <TheDude> electrohead, disabling the default ethernet configuration in the config
08:01:40 <rust_collector> mom has an old-ish imac. it is a pretty nice looking machine
08:01:49 <TheDude> perhaps that is going to omit it from the auto-generated files
08:01:55 <Ampera> I have a G3 iMac already
08:02:06 <TheDude> then the new gem0 config won't override the original
08:02:42 * Ampera hugs TheDude
08:02:43 * steve30000 always fancied a G3 iMac
08:03:01 * Ampera takes all of TheDude's bitcoins, replaces them with a real currency
08:03:02 <electrohead> TheDude: well, definitely worth a shot, as the phy device wasn't found, earlier
08:03:16 <Ampera> >:D
08:05:07 <TheDude> Ampera, unconfiscatable, remember? :)
08:05:26 <K> typical americans, allways talking about shootinbg
08:06:20 <Lord_of_nothing> why does everyone buy a mac?
08:06:28 <rust_collector> everyone does not
08:06:54 <Lord_of_nothing> well i mean why does so many people buy that crap
08:07:19 <rust_collector> it keeps them from buying something else, I guess?
08:08:06 <electrohead> I never bought a mac, ever in my life
08:09:20 <K> i have and intend to continue
08:10:27 <Lord_of_nothing> its seem the "crative media" branch use them
08:11:02 <rust_collector> mom uses that stuff. because her ex bought them. I have never managed to use them. But I do not think there is much wrong with them as such
08:11:16 <K> i do wide range software dev, electrical and mechanical design work with it
08:11:32 <K> it works great
08:12:02 <Lord_of_nothing> its saf that here os not a good linux software cominity
08:12:27 <rust_collector> what?
08:12:31 <electrohead> ??
08:12:31 <K> eh?
08:13:01 * electrohead desk brain cells bash no
08:16:28 <Lord_of_nothing> yes it sucks
08:16:43 <Lord_of_nothing> there is no way to use a bank software on linux
08:17:59 <rust_collector> sure there is, you bank is weird. why are you talking about linux?
08:18:20 <Lord_of_nothing> because there is no software for
08:18:48 <rust_collector> annoy your bank until you get it?
08:19:24 <Lord_of_nothing> well the only replay is fuck you but in much nicer words
08:20:50 <rust_collector> Not that I know what you are talking about, I don't use any special software for bank stuff.
08:20:55 <electrohead> what's the software in question?
08:21:05 <electrohead> dedicated software, or a website for your bank?
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08:34:46 <Lord_of_nothing> nope my bank use a software and a hw scanner who i put the card in
08:35:14 <Lord_of_nothing> that card is neccecary for login
08:35:30 <Lord_of_nothing> maybe someone heard about the euopean security sht
08:35:42 <Lord_of_nothing> who a 2nd athentication is neccecary
08:35:57 <Lord_of_nothing> i dont install anything on my phone since i dont use google
08:36:15 <Ysjoelfir> then you can't complain
08:36:38 <Ysjoelfir> they offer you two options - app and software. both aren't to your likings
08:36:59 <rust_collector> well, I do not need a card reader to log in to my bank. that seems a bit... much
08:37:18 <Lord_of_nothing> well the have there app only in google and no alternative way
08:37:34 <rust_collector> i have a little box that gives me codes. seems to work ok
08:37:49 <Lord_of_nothing> who you put your card in?
08:37:52 <rust_collector> no
08:37:59 <rust_collector> i do not have a card
08:38:24 <Lord_of_nothing> my mom have such think where she put there card in and some special pin
08:38:41 <Lord_of_nothing> that put out a 6 or 9 digit key she put in the bank site
08:38:50 <rust_collector> I log in "half way" press a button on the box, and get a code, enter the code, then I type in my password, then I am in
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08:58:24 <TheDude> lol
08:58:32 <TheDude> speaking of banks
08:58:43 <TheDude> my previous bank got merged to another bank
08:59:04 <TheDude> and the other bank now dictates the security policies for the internet banking
08:59:25 <TheDude> my 12-digit, capital, non-capital and numeric password had to be replaced
08:59:35 <TheDude> with a 6-digit, numeric-only password
08:59:45 <TheDude> and get this
09:00:13 <TheDude> for added security, they send you a 2fa code through SMS to ensure security :3
09:00:42 <TheDude> err, my writing is awful
09:01:15 <TheDude> anyhow, yeah, SMS, completely safe
09:01:28 <Ampera> I need a checkbook, speaking of banks
09:01:36 <Ampera> I was at junk lot and they had none
09:01:44 <rust_collector> I need more cash
09:01:52 <Ampera> I need a life
09:01:58 <rust_collector> mmhmm
09:02:05 <rust_collector> that would be something
09:02:42 <TheDude> I need more bitcoin
09:02:48 <TheDude> bitcoin is love, bitcoin is life
09:02:56 <TheDude> <3
09:03:18 <Ampera> you need a straightjacket and an economics course
09:03:51 <TheDude> the former, parhaps
09:03:54 <rust_collector> that would be something
09:03:57 <TheDude> you could use the latter, though :D
09:04:26 <Ampera> rust_collector, you need a something
09:04:32 <rust_collector> yes
09:05:48 <rust_collector> i ended up not moving any snow today. that was nice
09:06:02 <rust_collector> mostly because I have not been outside yet
09:07:26 <hsn> Better than removing sand i guess
09:08:00 <Ampera> yet
09:08:48 <hsn> Who is trading in bitcoin TheDude ?
09:09:27 <TheDude> what do you mean who?
09:09:34 <TheDude> many people are
09:09:36 <hsn> R u ?
09:09:46 <hsn> I mean here within us
09:09:51 <TheDude> I wouldn't call it trading, but yes
09:10:08 <Ampera> he's tryharding the economy
09:10:20 <hsn> R u doing it based on ... News? Study ? Luck ?
09:10:48 <hsn> Bot? :D
09:10:53 <TheDude> based on the information that I gathered over the years
09:11:08 <hsn> Hmm
09:11:17 <TheDude> again, I'm not actively trading
09:11:40 <hsn> So r u long term trade style?
09:11:47 <TheDude> buying things when the price seems good, selling when it feels like it has topped out
09:11:59 <TheDude> yes, large time frame only
09:12:04 <Lord_of_nothing> does anyone here know about the rasperr pi os?
09:12:20 <hsn> Jessie?
09:12:40 <Ysjoelfir> And James!
09:12:46 <Ysjoelfir> Team Rocket, faster than the light!
09:13:01 <Ampera> the light
09:13:05 <Ampera> just the one
09:13:26 <Ysjoelfir> yes. the one light. are you saying that there are more than one light? :O
09:13:38 <Ampera> raspi os is just shitty debian
09:13:47 <rust_collector> does anyone here know about trans used as public transport of people?
09:13:50 <Ysjoelfir> (I don't even know if that ancient Pokemon song thing is a thing outside germanistan... or if nobody got the reference :D)
09:14:09 <Ampera> with OS in the name, because every hipster shit operating system needs OS in the name
09:14:16 <TheDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1UUAhZ3JzM
09:14:19 <TheDude> the light :3
09:14:43 <TheDude> rust_collector, trams?
09:14:50 <hsn> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbian-jessie-is-here/
09:14:54 <rust_collector> yes, trams
09:15:10 <TheDude> I rode one once, fwiw :D
09:15:11 <rust_collector> what is that noisy "music" wth?
09:15:37 <TheDude> Disturbed
09:15:44 <TheDude> also written below the video
09:15:47 <rust_collector> yes, I was
09:15:47 <TheDude> the title
09:16:08 <rust_collector> they must be satanists
09:16:19 <hsn> Ysjoelfir r u quite or i imagine? :D
09:16:24 <TheDude> wtf, really? I love them more now
09:17:00 <Ysjoelfir> what am I supposed to be, hsn? :D
09:17:11 <rust_collector> you should be waiting
09:17:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: according to ur motor cycle
09:17:47 <hsn> U should be less quiet
09:18:13 <Ysjoelfir> well.... the BMW is rather un-quiet, yes :D
09:18:22 <TheDude> are you intentionally spelling shit this bad, or are you maybe still learning English?
09:18:41 <rust_collector> i am still learning, yes
09:18:43 <hsn> Me? TheDude
09:18:44 <Ysjoelfir> also we have a saying here - loud pipes save lifes
09:18:56 <TheDude> yes, hsn
09:19:09 <rust_collector> We have a saying - no pipes keep legs warm
09:19:15 <hsn> TheDude: i think bit of both
09:19:22 <Ysjoelfir> TheDude, hsn is not a native speaker, and IIRC english isn't a school tought language in Bahrain either
09:19:38 <Ysjoelfir> rusty - thats very true as well :P
09:20:13 <TheDude> right, that's the reason why I'm asking
09:20:29 <hsn> TheDude: everytime i ve to google (quit vs ....) So google gives me the correct (quiet) word
09:20:44 <rust_collector> he is doing ok, imo, except for his phone language some times
09:21:03 <hsn> Phone language is?
09:21:07 <TheDude> but please do refrain from using stuff like 'u' for 'you' and 'y' for 'why'
09:21:14 <rust_collector> U R horse
09:21:30 <TheDude> or 'r', for that matter
09:21:40 <rust_collector> we have space for complete words here
09:21:54 <Ysjoelfir> oi! its me who is the german, I am the only one allowed to be a grammar nazi! :D
09:22:14 <rust_collector> nah, you can only be a regular nazi
09:22:15 <TheDude> nah, mate, you're the only one that faces prison if he dares doing it :P
09:22:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol²
09:22:29 <Ysjoelfir> :D
09:22:44 <hsn> Ich bin nein nazi ..
09:22:53 <rust_collector> you can have a whistle, and blow it if someone uses the wrong word
09:23:05 <hsn> Looks like a good sentence to say in german airport
09:23:11 <TheDude> but seriously, most of germans that I've met are completely unable to laugh at dark humor jokes about holocaust and shit :D
09:23:36 <rust_collector> yes, they are taking it too seriously.
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09:23:43 <hsn> TheDude: well .. they pay if they laugh
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09:24:13 <rust_collector> just pay in botcoins, and it will be fine
09:24:19 <Ysjoelfir> Problem is, that we are pretty much being... indoctrinated that we (like, we, the now living germans) are the workst people of all time from the beginning of history class in school and from media "celebrating" each year again and again the date of the holocoust
09:24:32 <Ysjoelfir> so you seriously FEEL bad even thinking about making a joke about it
09:24:50 <TheDude> yeah, I figured it was something like that
09:25:55 <rust_collector> in germany, where even a small golf2 had an ashtray big enough for 10 jews... it is tricky, but I think "you" are a bit too sensitive about it
09:26:19 <Ysjoelfir> it annoys the shit out of me. I wasn't alive back in the time, my family name is probably one that wouldn't have had it easy back than, so I am very probably allowed to not feel bad at all^^ but I still do. sometimes. except when I don't. and laugh very hard about the joke rusty made :D
09:26:52 <rust_collector> the golf2 did have a massive ash tray
09:27:42 <rust_collector> but yes. I guess you remember my semi-rant when you posted about your nazi stuff on the forum.
09:27:48 <TheDude> what it the little jewish girl doing sitting on the roof?
09:27:57 <TheDude> she's waiting by the chimney, her parents said they'd be right out
09:28:14 <hsn> What rusty joke was
09:29:17 <rust_collector> Have you seen a mid 80's golf ashtray?
09:29:56 <hsn> I wasnt born yet
09:30:31 <rust_collector> they still exist, you know. they don't disappear, just because you were not born, when they were made
09:31:05 <hsn> XD
09:31:18 <hsn> Its ciggerate ashetray right?
09:31:22 <rust_collector> yes
09:31:36 <rust_collector> ciggerate... exactly
09:31:41 <TheDude> guys, don't joke about nazism, okay? Ysjoelfir's grandpa died back then
09:31:46 <TheDude> he fell off a watch tower :D
09:31:59 <Ysjoelfir> xD
09:32:20 <Ysjoelfir> actually my one grandpa died from a heart atack 12 years ago and the other is still alive :P
09:32:26 <TheDude> no offense to your grandpa, mate, you're just conveniently here
09:32:42 <Ysjoelfir> its all fine :)
09:34:21 <TheDude> so they organized a game of hide-and-seek at auschwitz
09:34:54 <TheDude> "vhen I say go, you juden shall hide in ze korn field, den ve vill finden you"
09:34:58 <TheDude> "GO!"
09:35:02 <TheDude> *a minute passes*
09:35:13 <TheDude> "Hans! start ze kombein harvester"
09:36:12 <rust_collector> i have been wondering where your name comes from, it does have that sound, to me....
09:36:35 <TheDude> I've probably got a couple more stored somewhere in the back of my head
09:36:37 <rust_collector> otoh, I don't know where I come from either
09:37:04 <hsn> Im sleep gn
09:37:12 <TheDude> good night
09:37:20 <rust_collector> good night sandman. say hi to the wife
09:37:41 <TheDude> exit light, enter night
09:37:44 <hsn> Tmrw will pass .. she is died now
09:38:01 <TheDude> hsn's off to never neverland
09:38:09 <rust_collector> grandma used to like the black album
09:38:18 <TheDude> nice
09:38:41 <rust_collector> she had no idea about what they said, but she did like the music
09:39:33 <rust_collector> she secretly somewhat understand several languages, but not english.
09:39:35 <TheDude> I was rather intrigued reading music lyrics after I've known them for the majority of my life and never before understood them
09:40:38 <rust_collector> otoh, grandpa can speak english, which no one knew he could, until mom visited with her jamaican bf.
09:40:55 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, you mean my name?
09:40:59 <TheDude> lol, nice
09:41:01 <rust_collector> so, he was around 90 when mom learned that he knew english
09:41:05 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, yes
09:41:12 <TheDude> haha nice
09:41:33 <Ysjoelfir> well, then you probably know exactly as much as I do - nothing. :D except that it sounds east european-ish.
09:41:40 <rust_collector> yes
09:42:27 <Ysjoelfir> I might do a research at one day. mrs. spouses dad is into this whole ancestry thing.
09:42:59 <TheDude> my previous roommate's brother is into the whole ancestry thing
09:43:08 <rust_collector> I should go dig up the books grandma wrote about where we come from. she did not get too far, but..
09:43:23 <TheDude> he managed to trace back like 4 or 5 generations of people
09:43:29 <TheDude> literally hundreds of relatives
09:43:44 <TheDude> very darn impressive
09:44:32 <rust_collector> grandmas side was from in the middle of south sweden, since the 1600s, at least. grandpas side is from this area, for as long as she could figure out.
09:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> you should indeed, rusty. TheDude, mrs spouses dad went very far back. took him several years of evening research and traveling to all kind of places to read into old books. He could trace their family back to norway and great britain, and I think he even found a relation to one of the old english noble houses
09:45:18 <rust_collector> the other half of my family is from either scotland or germany, and that is as close as we got to anything
09:45:47 <TheDude> wow, impressive
09:45:51 <rust_collector> oh crap, you are my 35th cousin
09:45:57 <Ysjoelfir> XD
09:46:09 <TheDude> you two better not pollinate each other
09:46:15 <TheDude> we don't tolerate inbreeding in here
09:46:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
09:46:23 <rust_collector> too late
09:46:25 <TheDude> :D
09:48:33 <Lord_of_nothing> sry i was away from the keyboad
09:48:43 <Lord_of_nothing> does anyone replay to any of my messages?
09:48:56 <Lord_of_nothing> i am cleaning my radio i got for ebay
09:49:20 <rust_collector> We need pics of that, you know....
09:49:57 <rust_collector> the other day, I found my old "police radio" I have to see if I can get that going again
09:51:11 <Lord_of_nothing> lol normally the use encrypt stuff
09:51:28 <Lord_of_nothing> i hope get the programming cable for my hytera soon
09:51:41 <Lord_of_nothing> i was refuse to pay the extra fee for the european seller
09:52:52 <rust_collector> they do now. but itey have so much trouble with that new stuff, that they some times use the old system. But it is not a police-only radio, it is just that it could receive on their frequency also. so it should still be usable for somehting
09:54:59 <rust_collector> when we were drunk and listening to it, I remember it was very difficult to not send something to them.
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09:56:12 <Lord_of_nothing> lol
09:57:02 <Lord_of_nothing> i had on a german site an argument with some people who told me when i use some kind of radio and transmitt on the amateur radio freq the could track me
09:57:24 <Lord_of_nothing> sure when i use a handheld radion on my backpack and use a tram and bus to constantly move
09:57:35 <Lord_of_nothing> would say the could not find my
09:57:57 <rust_collector> well, to some degree I guess they can, if it was important enough. and you were sending enough
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09:59:03 <Lord_of_nothing> well when i use the subway the could not do anything
10:00:07 <rust_collector> well, who knows? but I doubt it would be important enough for them anyway. probably not much risk unless you were broadcasting
10:00:55 <T3sl4> i mean, you're always radiating 300-600THz
10:02:37 <Lord_of_nothing> i guess here are many smart people
10:02:45 <Lord_of_nothing> how to know if the are genuen https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4001293646092.html ?
10:02:48 <Ysjoelfir> NeroTHz would be very happy about that information, T3sl4
10:03:15 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of which, does anybody know where that guy is? haven't seen him in ages
10:04:01 <rust_collector> isn't 40 a bit much for that isolator?
10:07:05 <Lord_of_nothing> 33€
10:07:18 <rust_collector> still...
10:07:35 <Lord_of_nothing> so what should a genuen usb 3.0 should cost?
10:07:41 <rust_collector> there is not much in it. i dunno what they should be
10:07:43 <Lord_of_nothing> delock want 90€ for there crappy
10:07:49 <rust_collector> hmm
10:08:24 <Lord_of_nothing> DELOCK USB 2.0 Isolator mit 3 kV Isolation
10:08:32 <Lord_of_nothing> 129,40 €
10:08:36 <Lord_of_nothing> + 20% tax
10:09:48 <rust_collector> i should make some of those, lol
10:10:07 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, how much to design something with an adum chip and 2 wires?
10:10:22 <Lord_of_nothing> i open that up and there isnt much inside so i was looking on ali to get a cheaper from china
10:11:00 <rust_collector> there should be very little in it. does it supply power, or is it data only?
10:11:32 <Ysjoelfir> thats a high speed digital isolator... shouldn't be much to it I suppose? I immagine such a thing to be made pretty easily.
10:11:39 <Lord_of_nothing> the do both data + power
10:11:44 <Lord_of_nothing> i payed for the chineese € 29,08
10:12:06 <rust_collector> I guess that is closer to what I would consider paying
10:12:38 <Lord_of_nothing> well i dont open that up and not look inside
10:13:26 <rust_collector> I should probably order one of those chips, to isolate my usb scope, just because I was too cheap, when I bought it
10:15:29 <Lord_of_nothing> i would like use that for my SDR
10:16:02 <Kuschelpony> T3sl4, i would say you radiate more in the few dozen Thz, thats the everyday thermal infrared band...
10:16:30 <T3sl4> true, the higher band is more of a re-radiating thing
10:16:31 <Lord_of_nothing> its much more easy to replace an dumb sdr when the get blowen than a expencive sdr with all the SDR goodness
10:16:38 <Kuschelpony> in the visible light, i hope its more of a reflection
10:16:43 <Lord_of_nothing> damn its 00:!6 here fick
10:16:58 <Lord_of_nothing> @Kuschelpony Servus
10:17:00 <rust_collector> amazing
10:17:05 <Lord_of_nothing> DArf ICh dir eine PM schicken hier?
10:19:01 <Kuschelpony> mir soweiso imemr, aberi ch wei�0 nicht was der chatraum macht
10:19:17 <Kuschelpony> und ja, bin von einem ganz anderme Chat heute sehr aufgew�hlt, sonst w�rde ich schon l�nger schlafen
10:19:44 <Kuschelpony> ansonsten, r�ber auf den Server vom Furnet, bin da mit gleichem Namen
10:20:58 <T3sl4> SCHEISS
10:21:23 <rust_collector> e
10:22:30 <Kuschelpony> Scheisse sagt man nicht, das macht man :)
10:22:43 <rust_collector> eXcUsEMe!?? I wAsJusthAviNgaShit. DidImIssomethiIng
10:24:15 <Kuschelpony> i just cited a funny saying
10:24:26 <Kuschelpony> you dont say "shit" you do shit
10:24:30 <rust_collector> right
10:24:32 <Kuschelpony> no worries about my side
10:26:42 <rust_collector> sounds good
10:30:11 <Kuschelpony> twoi very important things about me:
10:30:31 <Kuschelpony> i am not easily offended and if you have anything to say please just say it open to me
10:30:40 <Kuschelpony> in dubts ask me anything
10:31:32 <Kuschelpony> but i might be not always open to say everything in the public channel as i see them primrily as a tech channel for professional tech quesations
10:31:40 <rust_collector> sure.
10:33:10 * T3sl4 munches a ripe juicy pear
10:33:35 * rust_collector is looking at a crane for sale
10:35:32 <Kuschelpony> i still have not registered here so i can not answer in private chat
10:39:03 <Lord_of_nothing> oh...
10:39:09 <Lord_of_nothing> Who remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe3FG4EOgyU ?
10:39:40 <Lord_of_nothing> aufgewühlt? Hast du in einen sex chat geschaut?
10:40:25 <Kuschelpony> ach, Sex ist langweilig....
10:41:11 * steve30 wonders whether to go out later
10:41:33 <Kuschelpony> es gehrt um tiefere Dinge, grundlegende Erfahrungen, an die ich mich herantasten m�chte und um die zwei Buchstaben zu erw�hnen es geht auch um unterbreiche von SM
10:41:36 <rust_collector> why bother? have some coffee, and go to bed
10:42:00 <rust_collector> lol, steve30
10:42:00 <Kuschelpony> lets say more than complicated and no conenction to an electronic engineering chat
10:42:48 <electrohead> I read something something sex chat
10:42:51 <electrohead> caught my interest
10:42:54 <electrohead> :P
10:43:08 <rust_collector> oh crap, now everyone will pick up on that....
10:43:17 <Lord_of_nothing> year i watch nauty stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SchYy60m_I
10:44:13 <T3sl4> nougaty stuff
10:44:37 * steve30 snuggles up to T3sl4
10:45:20 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a coffee-scented chew toy
10:46:36 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=130879081 that looks like a handy thing to have around
10:47:18 <electrohead> lol
10:47:32 <T3sl4> i'm not sure offhand how many kr converts to, but i'd find the kr quite handy too
10:47:57 <rust_collector> i think 10 kr is 1$ or something around there
10:48:24 <rust_collector> 8.63nok in 1usd
10:48:42 <T3sl4> in fact i think i'd buy a house for cash, if i had that
10:48:50 <Kuschelpony> i recommand youtube X599j1bUI9w
10:49:04 <Kuschelpony> Scorpions - big city nights
10:49:10 <rust_collector> yeah, I would go a bit inland had buy 2 houses, lol
10:50:47 <rust_collector> I wonder what scorpions are like now, with their new drummer
10:52:09 <Kuschelpony> no idea, my taste for music is stuck in the rock of the 70s and 80s
10:52:14 <rust_collector> think they are one of the few bands would like to see
10:52:39 <Kuschelpony> the Loudness War and the Easy listening tunes have killed my desire to get new style songs
10:52:47 <Kuschelpony> yes me as well
10:52:55 <Kuschelpony> and Barclay James Harvest, and Europe
10:54:21 <rust_collector> heh, europe was the first cd I bought. just because the cover looked cool. It was thrown in a large bin of stuff in a bakery
10:55:19 <rust_collector> not that we had a cd player or anything... but I had the cd
10:57:47 <rust_collector> the second one would be screaming for vengeance. probably because of unknown reasons
11:01:02 <rust_collector> ok, someone is selling the the plastic cover from scart cables, for 6 euros per piece
11:01:22 <rust_collector> I will go back to looking at cranes now
11:06:10 <T3sl4> don't crane your neck looking too hard
11:07:20 <rust_collector> ok
11:09:57 <rust_collector> a fold up bathtub. that is actually not a bad idea
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11:32:58 <arch> can a current transformer be used for buck or forward topologies?
11:41:13 <Kuschelpony> buck: surely no
11:41:31 <Kuschelpony> forward, maaaaaaybe if you need that crazy transfomation ratio
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14:10:11 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/uO05I7G.jpg
14:10:19 * Ampera hugs T3sl4
14:10:32 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
14:10:45 * Ampera gives T3sl4 yakisoba with fried mixed mushrooms
14:10:51 <Ampera> chicken flavour
14:10:56 * T3sl4 kisses Ampera
14:11:08 <Ampera> the way to a man's heart is through his yakisoba
14:11:49 <electrohead> T3sl4: that picture, lol
14:12:29 <T3sl4> i'm trying to use your noodles as fiber optics, but i'm having a lot of trouble seeing your heart through them
14:12:45 <Ampera> no no no, it's a wet noodle
14:12:48 <Ampera> you're supposed to use ADSL
14:13:14 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
14:13:55 * Ampera attack-kisses Halcyon
14:13:58 <Halcyon> YAY!
14:14:00 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon, how are you doing?
14:17:06 * T3sl4 headpats Halcyon
14:18:31 <Halcyon> I'm doing alright
14:18:36 <Halcyon> How about you guys?
14:19:47 <Ampera> had a good day, talked with some people a bit, I think I may end up restarting HRT
14:19:57 <Halcyon> Good stuff :)
14:20:02 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
14:20:08 * Ampera licks Halcyon
14:20:48 <DHess_US> T3sl4, German Shepard, right.
14:20:59 <T3sl4> ja
14:33:46 <electrohead> hey Halcyon o/
14:46:30 <Halcyon> Hey buddy
14:46:36 <Halcyon> What's crackalacking?
14:48:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
14:48:07 <Ampera> again
14:48:10 * Ampera squeezes harder
14:49:17 <Halcyon> \o/
14:49:29 <Ampera> Halcyon, you wanna do a call in a bit?
14:49:38 <Halcyon> Yeh can do, I just got to finish off a uni thing first
14:49:43 <Ampera> let me know and I'll call
14:49:45 <Halcyon> How long will you be?
14:49:54 <Ampera> be what, alive?
14:49:58 <Ampera> for the next few days at least
14:50:13 <Halcyon> I mean when do you want to call?
14:50:14 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
14:50:38 <Ampera> as soon as you want
14:50:42 <Ampera> I'm ready now
14:50:50 <electrohead> not too much here, found a github project/page that lists chip companies and such, that give out free samples
14:51:23 <Halcyon> I mean I can call now and take a short break or wait until later after I'm finished?
14:51:37 <Ampera> that's fine
14:51:58 <Halcyon> Which one?
14:52:01 <Ampera> sure
14:52:06 <Halcyon> Clown
14:52:10 <Ampera> mhm
14:52:18 <Halcyon> I'll call you now
14:52:23 <Ampera> signal?
14:52:27 <Halcyon> Discord or signal?
14:52:28 <Halcyon> Sure
15:00:16 * electrohead crashes said phone call
15:07:49 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
15:08:54 <Halcyon> You could join us? I think Signal does group calling now?
16:36:50 <MrMobodies> Hello
16:37:02 <MrMobodies> I feel like an idiot
16:37:19 <Halcyon> What did you do?
16:37:20 <MrMobodies> that thing with youtube and the red loading bar, for some reason in my blocklist it had a . there
16:37:43 <MrMobodies> youtube.com##.yt-page-navigation-progress should have been "youtube.com##yt-page-navigation-progress" without the .
16:37:57 <MrMobodies> now its hiding the red thing and instant page loads without page
16:38:41 <MrMobodies> I had one machine from 2 months ago that didn't show it but the block list was remote and could see the contents. So I must have changed something and . got in that element somehow
16:39:16 <MrMobodies> but the amount of time I spent on it, thinking it was there and should work but wrong syntax
16:40:47 <MrMobodies> I have an I5 and it seems to slow that down too
16:41:01 <MrMobodies> reminds me of a text scroller on some news sites about 15 years or so where it it would take up all the cpu time in the way it was implemented
16:41:05 <MrMobodies> but now i am pleased
16:41:26 <MrMobodies> but I feel silly for not noticing that it had the wrong thing in there
16:41:38 <MrMobodies> with the amount of time i spent finding out why
16:42:19 <MrMobodies> I have a problem with my kettle
16:42:27 <MrMobodies> keeps on stopping attimes before it boils
16:42:52 <MrMobodies> but the temperature controllers stays on and makes a pulsed beep
16:43:34 <MrMobodies> I plugged a volt meter socket and it does drop near 0.6 milliamps
16:46:57 <MrMobodies> It's one of these
16:46:58 <MrMobodies> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/6195gj19-cL.jpg
16:47:13 <MrMobodies> Graef WK701 and it keeps on stopping just before it boils
16:47:50 <MrMobodies> the buttons remain lit and makes a pulsed noise
16:48:44 <MrMobodies> Do you think it might be leaking inside a little?
16:49:12 <MrMobodies> it's relay controlled too and that clicks when it stops
17:24:26 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: SCAM ALERT for @CommBank Aren't. https://t.co/jCv75MRwmF addresses easy to trace to the owner? https://t.co/y8kE12gN4b
18:03:26 * Halcyon punches Ampera
18:04:05 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
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18:04:23 <Halcyon> I have a craving for Kimchi
18:25:40 <MrMobodies> Never heard of it before but it looks nice
18:25:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.maangchi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/whole-cabbage-kimchi.jpg
18:25:41 <EEVBlog> hi.
18:25:49 <MrMobodies> oh hello
18:26:04 <MrMobodies> looks like spiced cabbage
18:35:18 <Halcyon> Yeh it's Korean. It's fermented cabbage (with other vegetables) with chilli and other flavours like garlic, onion etc...
18:35:20 <Halcyon> It's really nice
18:35:36 <Halcyon> You can buy them in jars or make it yourself quite easily
18:38:03 <MrMobodies> thank you for giving me some ideas I'll look into making it.
19:55:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Youtube doesn't like Skookum maybe? https://t.co/jIiKZv58Il
19:57:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If you are wondering why your Youtube Premium subscription is useful: https://t.co/5QhRcfvM0C
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20:15:13 <hsn> Hey Halcyon
20:15:36 <hsn> Its late but happy new year ..
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22:05:16 <Halcyon> Hey hsn!
22:05:17 <Halcyon> You too!
22:05:21 <Halcyon> I hope you're well
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22:23:21 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
22:24:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I just hit 50,000 subs on Odysee! @OdyseeTeam https://t.co/i8LLah5Zqj https://t.co/NcWiHemBcx
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23:32:36 <electrohead> morning
23:33:48 <K> meanwhile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_Zz0Rzh0s
23:38:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Re: Masks, offical @NSWHealth advice remains the same: https://t.co/EduwuncFEr
23:38:22 <electrohead> K: yes.
23:50:22 * Halcyon hugs electrohead
23:50:35 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
23:58:47 * Ysjoelfir feels like shit but enjoys the synth music :D
23:59:28 <electrohead> lmnc is a crazy bloke, love it