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01:08 Quit: clarkos ([email protected]) EOF from client
08:18 <steve30> i think i need another coffee
08:33 <rust_collector> i think you are correct
15:44 <Ysjoelfir> I think you should get me a tea
16:05 <rust_collector> we have roasted bean tea?
18:01 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... meh.
18:35 * steve30 fires the tea hose at Ysjoelfir 
52:32 <K> tea hoes!
53:00 <rust_collector> heh, one little dog is sitting in the window
54:02 <K> better thatn the other
54:07 <K> activity
55:14 <rust_collector> yes, it is better than one little dog shitting in the window
56:43 <Ysjoelfir> did you make a new batch
58:32 <rust_collector> uhm, no, but somehow there are 2 more of them here now
58:40 <rust_collector> no poopies
01:16 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/LDyJKCJ
01:59 <rust_collector> she is a bit weird. but without using a lot of tape, you can not really stop here from going pretty much anywhere
03:42 <rust_collector> I sort of like that she has immortal face paint.
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10:16 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, do you use the clutch when you shift your bikes?
12:18 <Ysjoelfir> with the yamaha only for taking off, with the bmw yes, always, as the transmission is very rough
12:33 <rust_collector> hmm, ok
12:50 <Ysjoelfir> Lol, the facepaint is nice xD
13:05 <rust_collector> looks like abbath, just not fat
14:59 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
16:04 * steve30 is tired
16:06 <rust_collector> I just saw a "making a gear selector" video, which is the starter solenoid from 2 starter motors used as an actuator. so one button to shift up, and one button to shift down. That is ok, but I got thinking about the man "comfort-shift" which was a clutch actuator, which just released the clutch with a button on the shifter. And part of me made me want to make an automated bike
22:25 <rust_collector> not really, but an automated bike transmission. I don't really care about the bike, lol
29:28 <Ysjoelfir> xD well, why not? sounds like a fun project
31:03 <Ysjoelfir> I just tried out the danish bedroll. DAMN that thing is comfy!
32:54 <rust_collector> and it fits perfectly in the back of a volvo wagon, with some custom made furniture on one side. very strange
33:55 <Ysjoelfir> lol
34:17 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have furniture with that kind of cloth on it, that would be gorgeous xD
34:36 <rust_collector> heh, I am not sure, but I get what you mean
35:15 <Ysjoelfir> Immagine a car with that orange brown striped flower pattern cloth on the seats^^
37:09 <rust_collector> I am just having trouble seeing the rest of the car... but it could be that it would be british...
38:44 <rust_collector> I think a bedford cf would look good with that
38:49 <rust_collector> i think it was cf
39:18 <rust_collector> yes, cf
39:33 * Ysjoelfir googled that and agrees
40:35 <K> compact flash?
41:10 <K> ah. bus-car
43:44 <rust_collector> those things did not last very long
43:55 <rust_collector> at least not up here
44:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol, the cat wanted to get into the bedroll. now I have even warmer feet :D nice!
44:37 <Ysjoelfir> I have never seen one around here ever
46:45 <rust_collector> the dodge 50 was also around a bit, long enough that I can just remember seeing them, but I have not seen one after 1990, I think
52:36 <rust_collector> "you can find this acid in beekeeping stores" ok, but where would I find a beekeeping store?
53:03 <Ysjoelfir> good question
53:36 <rust_collector> I bet the dark web if full of beekeeping stuff
53:46 <electrohead> o/
53:52 <rust_collector> oiio
54:52 <electrohead> iooi
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58:04 <rust_collector> oh, looks like all the people that just joined just joined
58:17 <electrohead> they did, indeed
58:25 <rust_collector> wow
59:41 <rust_collector> ok, party time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgy6ANiEaY8
01:07 <Ysjoelfir> woop woop!
06:00 <electrohead> no.
08:41 <rust_collector> vespas have a pretty interesting design, if you take them apart
08:42 <Ysjoelfir> no?
09:30 <K> can you put them back together too?
10:02 <rust_collector> nah, why would you do that?
13:00 <K> duno, some bonus points for being weird
14:07 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
14:40 <rust_collector> electrohead,
15:05 <rust_collector> do the military still use the willys mule?
21:18 <electrohead> lol
23:41 <rust_collector> ok
24:39 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir should get one of those, and go on vacation with it
24:52 <Ysjoelfir> hm? what should I get?
25:21 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/M274_%C2%BD-ton_4%C3%974_utility_platform_truck
25:45 <Ysjoelfir> how fast can that go?
26:00 <Ysjoelfir> eh, 40
26:01 <rust_collector> not very, but it can go pretty slow
26:20 <Ysjoelfir> and it needs to be refueled rather often
26:41 <rust_collector> says it was designed to go slow enough so it would cover people crawling, so...
27:56 <Ysjoelfir> so if I wever want to crawl to vacation this would be perfect
28:19 <rust_collector> yep, pretty much
30:50 <Ysjoelfir> well, lets get one and equip it with a stirling engine for added speed!
31:21 <rust_collector> you and your german design things
32:04 <electrohead> heh
32:08 <electrohead> that would be fun, though
34:01 <rust_collector> americans make a slow thing, that is very useful,and inefficient,
34:20 <rust_collector> german: lets make it faster and more efficient! woohoo!
34:32 <rust_collector> weirdos
35:17 <rust_collector> they are pretty expensive
35:26 <electrohead> what about german-americans?
35:44 <rust_collector> yeah! what about those?
35:51 <Ampera> fuck those
35:52 <Ampera> entitle fuckers
35:54 <Ampera> I hate them
35:59 <Ampera> *entitled
37:46 <electrohead> I hate them too, those fuckers
37:50 <electrohead> lol
41:55 <K> but what about fucking haters?
42:43 <rust_collector> leave them alone, until they are done
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12:48 <asibley> morning!
12:55 Quit: asibley ([email protected]) Quit: WeeChat 3.0
12:59 <rust_collector> yes
13:06 <electrohead> that was quick
13:20 <rust_collector> must be swiss
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15:24 <c0rnbr34d> Morning!
15:44 <rust_collector> mornings
20:56 <c0rnbr34d> have you been watching WSB at all?
21:16 <rust_collector> I have no idea, but I do not think so
23:36 <Ysjoelfir> huh, whats that
24:42 <c0rnbr34d> basicly this fund called melvin capital was shorting a bunch of trash stocks, reddit was scrapping SEC fillings and found out about it
25:08 <c0rnbr34d> everything theyve been shorting has had a huge bull run in the last couple days
25:47 <c0rnbr34d> reddit is trying to hold thier position until the shorts mature so the stock gets resold and the price pumped
27:36 <c0rnbr34d> amc 5xed over night
28:22 <c0rnbr34d> trading platforms are locking the buys and the reddit keeps getting shut down
28:27 <Ampera> it's hilarious it's what it is
28:35 <Ampera> *is
28:42 <c0rnbr34d> ^
28:56 <c0rnbr34d> its been pretty entertaining to watch
29:05 <Ampera> reminds me of the good old days when 4chan still did amusing pranks
29:30 <c0rnbr34d> thats what I was thinking, shame 4ch has gone too such shit
29:39 <c0rnbr34d> lain is still comfy though
29:49 <c0rnbr34d> I dont think im dumb enough to cash in
29:51 <c0rnbr34d> ...
29:55 <c0rnbr34d> but its tempting
30:12 <Ampera> I'm not in stocks myself, I'm still watching and learning until I decide to risk actual money
30:56 <c0rnbr34d> thats wise, the stock market is mostly a scam imo. id holdle crypto if I really wanted to invest
31:00 <Ampera> what's sucking with 4chan though is some of their jokes were so fucking good, people are taking them drop dead seriously
31:08 <Ampera> like Qanon and the ok symbol thing
31:17 <c0rnbr34d> lmao milk
31:28 <c0rnbr34d> cant belive people actually bought that one
31:32 <Ampera> playing a prank on grandpa is fun until he goes full vietnam war mode and starts going insane
31:51 <Ampera> then it's just sad
32:03 <Ampera> crypto is stupid
32:21 <Ampera> it's basically a stock without a company riding highs and lows of the exchanges
32:37 <Ampera> there is no material worth behind it to make any serious or long term investments make sense
33:15 <Ampera> with the caveat that if you waste enough electricity and computing time, you can make some more whacky coins
34:55 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
35:47 <K> what ever happene to honest work?
37:34 <c0rnbr34d> most crypto is deflationary, you dont need to mine more to see profit
37:55 <Ampera> Never said you did
38:03 <Ampera> I just said that, as a currency, it has few real world merits.
38:12 <c0rnbr34d> unlike the stock market which is complety detached from our gdp and just rides off of state subsidies
38:21 <c0rnbr34d> that depends
38:23 <Ampera> Besides drugs, hitmen, and whores, nobody is trading shit in crypto
38:31 <c0rnbr34d> almost anything is better than fiat imo
39:03 <c0rnbr34d> and having a decentralised exchange is promising for tax reasosn as well as large scale money markets
39:04 <Ampera> you can live in ideals land all you want, I'll stay here in the real world until society decides to take crypto seriously, or society decides to nto take crypto seriously
39:43 <Ampera> The issue is crypto is idealistic, but not realistic. It's an egg without a chicken
40:07 <Ampera> If there was no exchange for real currencies, nobody would even use crypto
40:08 <c0rnbr34d> socity will take cypto seriosly when the us dollar pours into the regular market showing how inflated it truelly is and the fed stems in with a CBDC
40:31 <c0rnbr34d> thats clearly not true most curency in circulation is digital
40:44 <Ampera> digital, but not crypto
40:48 <c0rnbr34d> for the average normie cypto is no diffrent
40:59 <Ampera> I mean the wallets are a fucking nightmare, especially bitcoin
41:52 <Ampera> for the average normie, there is no bank to deal with shit like fraud
42:04 <c0rnbr34d> right but that dosent mean a govt couldnt step in and stream line the process then mint it as there new coin, soon enough everyone would use it and there debit cards would just be pushing diffrent data
42:13 <Ampera> and while someone can't grab a check and drain your account by forging a note, any money you send out is gone forever
43:05 <c0rnbr34d> I mean sure, but theres nothing stopping for exchanges and wallets from offering colateralized protection like banks
43:15 <Ampera> There isn't
43:35 <c0rnbr34d> that dosent seem like a fundamental crypto issue to me
43:37 <Ampera> the point is that it's not widely available as far as I'm aware
43:44 <Ampera> you said normie
43:47 <c0rnbr34d> oh yes I agree
43:49 <Ampera> this is a normie issue
44:02 <Ampera> but ultimately, how great your currency is doesn't matter
44:06 <Ampera> if nobody uses it, it's useless
44:10 <c0rnbr34d> I just me it *could* be
44:14 <c0rnbr34d> yeah
44:16 <c0rnbr34d> well see
44:16 <Ampera> and besides exchange value, bitcoin is nearly worthless
44:26 <c0rnbr34d> usd is a low bar imo
44:32 <Ampera> did I say USD?
44:54 <c0rnbr34d> what is your insert here normiebuck?
45:09 <Ampera> does it matter?
45:11 <c0rnbr34d> actaully I gtg shower I need to get going for an interview
45:13 <c0rnbr34d> not reallt
45:14 <Ampera> good luck
45:16 <Ampera> have fun
45:17 <c0rnbr34d> thanks
49:19 Quit: c0rnbr34d ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
49:34 <K> do i have a severe instance of deja-vu or did you have this exact same conversation with him some time ago?
50:08 <K> like few weeks or somth
50:20 <electrohead> did he have a different nickname?
50:47 <Ysjoelfir> who was that?
50:59 <Ampera> no it was with TheDude
51:04 <Ampera> who is also a bitcoin fanboy
51:07 <electrohead> ahh
54:30 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, new guy
55:07 <Ampera> I like him
55:10 <Ampera> seems like a cool person
55:11 <rust_collector> likes lxi and does not like wifi
55:28 <Ysjoelfir> does he wear a foilhead then?
55:56 <rust_collector> we should make him post a picture, lol
56:31 <Ampera> 802.11 is alright, bluetooth is the real evil
58:05 <Ysjoelfir> I take 799.52 please
58:18 * Ampera launches Ysjoelfir into orbit, smashing into the moon
58:32 <Ysjoelfir> why do you smash into the moon?
58:44 <Ampera> you smash into the moon
58:46 <electrohead> how about 8675.309?
58:49 <Ampera> because the moon is made out of cheese
58:53 <Ampera> and I thought you'd like cheese
58:59 * Ampera snaps electrohead into two
59:00 <rust_collector> i guess it happens, if you try to throw you
59:02 <Ysjoelfir> woah! yes, I do!
59:11 <Ampera> there, now there are two of you, but at least each of you is half as annoying
59:49 <rust_collector> "I only ate one piece of cake"
00:37 <K> the one piece
00:44 <rust_collector> yes
00:57 <K> onesie cake
10:44 <hsn> T3sl4: did u buy gamestop stocks?
10:47 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, I hate you
10:53 <Ysjoelfir> now I want cheese
10:54 <hsn> I love u 2
10:57 <Ampera> I hate myself too
10:58 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn
11:01 * Ampera kisses hsn 
11:31 * hsn Snaps picture of Ysjoelfir and Ampera
11:35 <rust_collector> oh good, hsn is here, so I can go
11:54 <hsn> Gn rust_collector
11:57 * Ampera snaps hsn into several pieces for the soup
11:58 <hsn> Im at home
12:07 <Ampera> rust_collector, your shift has ended, hsn's has begun
12:07 <rust_collector> uuh, I am going to work
12:13 <rust_collector> yes
12:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol
12:29 <hsn> U want to take shower with me Ampera dont u
12:48 <Ampera> a what
12:52 <rust_collector> so now you have to be here until Halcyon takes over
13:34 * hsn doesnt know soup vs soap
13:36 <hsn> Lol
15:46 <hsn> So the news says
15:52 <Ampera> fuck the news
15:55 <Ampera> shit's for the birds
15:58 <Ampera> and even they don't want it
16:07 <hsn> Ok
16:12 <hsn> The news shuts up
16:15 <Ampera> good
16:16 <hsn> Thanks ampera
16:20 <Ampera> you're welcome
16:23 <Ampera> I don't know what I did
16:26 <Ampera> but I'm glad you appreciated it
16:43 <hsn> I always appreciate u
17:12 <Ampera> you better, you've gotten more use out of the bot than anyone else
17:26 <Ampera> I gotta send my bot to a therapist now you've molested it so much
19:33 <hsn> oh comon
19:43 <hsn> ur bot is only not suciding because i talk to him
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25:31 <arch> everyone should ditch Robinhood, with the bullshit they pulled today
25:43 <arch> and join in a class action lawsuit
27:26 <hsn> https://www.patreon.com/WalidIssa
27:34 <hsn> well .. the range from 1$ to 200$ xD
28:05 <hsn> arch, robinhood not anymore a hood
29:55 <arch> yeah, it should change name to RobbingHood
30:29 <hsn> arch, i think .. they are afraid to lose "long term customers" because of the gamestop reddit thingy
30:44 <hsn> obviously teenagers are "trend customers" not stable :P
32:44 <arch> err, what? people who use robinhood are average joes. has nothing to do with being teenagers.
32:59 <arch> before robinhood, banks used to charge $5-10 PER trade
33:19 <arch> now, most banks have made trades FREE, all thanks to robinhood
33:37 <arch> cuz banks have better data available on the investment accounts
33:37 <hsn> arch, isnt the whole anger because of gamestop story ?
34:12 <arch> that is PART of it. why people are angry is because robinhood users who already HAVE gamestop are UNABLE to SELL them, let alone BUY more
34:24 <hsn> that was some trend group of gamers on reddit wanting to save that company .. so lots of ppl doing the "short selling" are losing ?
34:39 <arch> so even if you wanted to sell your gamestop stocks at $400 at the peak, when the market was OPEN, you were UNABLE to
34:50 <hsn> oh yeah
35:02 <hsn> how to heck its allowed to close it ?
35:05 <hsn> by the law ?
35:16 <arch> because of threats from hedge funds, no doubt about it
35:21 <hsn> u cant just open stock exchange company and close open on ppl right ?
35:28 <arch> must have threatened robinhood, and they bowed to their demands
36:07 <arch> i'm gonna file a SEC complaint for sure, and im cashing out my stocks from robinhood today, since my stocks are at their peak already and i wanna lock in my gains
36:12 <hsn> but is robinhood allowed to .. by law ?
36:25 <arch> the law doesn't apply to average joes, clearly
36:36 <arch> or rather, the hedge funds
37:31 <arch> this is gonna be a war aginst robinhood and all other shitty brokerages who participated in this racket
38:13 <hsn> lol i just recieved email
38:27 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/1NMznA.jpg
38:40 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/CjaKt5.jpg
39:11 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/NeckH2.jpg
39:25 <hsn> should i tell him .. it looks perfect start manufacturing allready ?
39:56 <arch> what is that supposed to be? custom made bike for you?
40:14 <hsn> i've no idea .. the email has no content except the pdf
40:16 <hsn> i think so
40:22 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, what is dis https://www.radlabor.de/
41:09 <hsn> arch, i dont know the guy
41:18 <hsn> he must be mis emailed me
41:21 <hsn> or somthing
42:46 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/T8SXbm.jpg
43:00 <hsn> is there a way to get rid of these even in spam ?
44:29 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno?
47:58 <hsn> so arch u also trade in cryto ?
54:35 <arch> no, i dont believe in crypto
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09:39 <coppice> without a hedge fund how will I be able to afford to separate us from our neighbours?
13:28 <coppice> arch: Is Robin Hood a public company. I think it would be most amusing to see Robin Hood's stock manipulated.
14:01 <arch> coppice, robinhood is private right now, but they plan to IPO soon
14:10 <arch> will be funny to see it crash the day they do so
21:18 <coppice> Chicken broth? We like the stock!
38:27 <coppice> arch: I'm seeing comments that say Robin Hood is heavily reliant on Citadel, who bailed out Melvin Capital.
39:45 <arch> right, that's gotta be a big part of it
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40:58 <arch> https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassActionRobinHood/
46:43 Quit: pa1983 ([email protected]) Connection closed
47:15 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKjMGf9gMXY/?igshid=1vi9kugfy5l1
47:46 <hsn> I wanna kid
48:59 * arch slaps hsn for posting an instagram link
00:57 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #EEVblog
00:59 <Nothing\> heyo
01:28 <Nothing\> finally figured out how to use this new spectroscope i have, it works soooo much better than the other one i got on aliexpress
01:54 <Nothing\> that one arrived with the prism shattered, and the scope in pieces cuz they just shipped it in a plain plastic bag in a package with no bubble wrap
02:28 <Nothing\> this one just uses a diffraction grating, which makes me wonder if i could put a higher count diffraction grating in its place for higher resolution
03:26 <Kuschelpony> im pretty sure yes, you just will get all spectral lines at different angles or look at overlapping higher orders
03:40 <Nothing\> it even has a nice little scale on it to show what wavelengths are present
03:56 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i was thinking, the scale won't be accurate anymore
03:56 <Kuschelpony> yes nice
04:07 <Kuschelpony> its not accurate but multiplied
04:15 <Nothing\> ah
04:21 <Kuschelpony> so if you duble the number of lines, the scale also doubles
04:28 <Nothing\> okay so it'd like, stretch the spectrum out more?
04:41 <Kuschelpony> exactly yes
04:46 <Nothing\> i gotcha
04:57 <Nothing\> well that's an interesting idea
05:05 <Nothing\> kinda disappointing this thing cost like $30 though
05:17 <Kuschelpony> the problem is that you will then see the higher order spectrums that wrre hidden from view before
05:24 <Nothing\> it's just 2 pieces of plastic and a cheap diffraction grating
05:30 <Kuschelpony> yep
05:39 <Kuschelpony> the next cheaper thing is to use a CD or DVD
05:50 <Kuschelpony> but yours has at least a paralell grating
05:53 <Nothing\> well i could buy a diffraction grating online
06:34 <Nothing\> yeah i've got these "fireworks" glasses from when i was a kid that seems to use diffraction gratings, but the pattern goes in all 8 cardinal directions
06:40 <Nothing\> or is it 4 cardinal directions?
06:46 <Nothing\> i forget, but i'm sure you know what i mean
06:47 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
06:48 <Ampera> <3
06:49 <Kuschelpony> i have some remote ideas to build a spectroscope using a prisma mounted on a stepper motor, but as my life goes i have already too much ohter unfinished projects
06:52 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
06:56 <Nothing\> hey man, how's it going?
07:06 <Ampera> a bit tired, going to make some steak soon
07:20 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i was thinking i could made one from a toilet paper tube, a diffraction grating and some tin foil
07:34 <Kuschelpony> sure you can
07:37 <Nothing\> Ampera, mmm i haven't had a properly cooked, choice cut steak in ages
07:48 <Nothing\> i'd love to get a medium rare t-bone cooked just right
07:57 <Nothing\> nice coarse pepper on it
07:58 <Ampera> this is a sirloin
08:04 <Nothing\> still good
08:37 <Ampera> still debating on how I'm exactly going to make it, but it'll be cooked with mushrooms
09:30 <Nothing\> oh, of course
09:36 <Nothing\> you've gotta have fried mushrooms with steak
09:45 <Nothing\> just like liver and onions
09:49 <Nothing\> can't have liver without onions
09:54 <Nothing\> holy shit this is making me hungry
09:57 <Ampera> I can't eat onions
10:02 <Nothing\> how come?
10:09 <Ampera> same issue with any other vegetables
10:12 <Ampera> they make me instantly vomit
10:17 <Nothing\> weird
10:25 <Nothing\> and unfortunate
10:27 <Ampera> I love the taste of onions
10:37 <Nothing\> yeah i was gonna say, fried onions are awesome
10:40 <Ampera> and among vegetables, they aren't as strong of a gag
10:54 <Ampera> If they are fried, and I mean crispy fried like what you'd put on a casserole, then they're fine
11:00 <Nothing\> is it the texture that gets you? or the taste? or some mental thing?
11:05 <Ampera> mental thing
11:07 <Nothing\> ah
11:10 <Nothing\> weird
11:22 <Nothing\> maybe somebody beat you with vegetables as a baby
11:31 <Ampera> I used to eat vegetables as a baby
11:35 <Ampera> most of them
11:51 <Nothing\> woohoo
11:56 <Nothing\> i just realized something amazing
11:58 <Ampera> I have no idea where it came from, there is no associated trauma between me and vegetables
12:05 <Nothing\> as of october, i'll no longer have to pay child support!
12:07 <Nothing\> :D
12:19 <Nothing\> cuz my kid'll be 18
12:40 <Nothing\> i'm assuming it's one of those things where they'll continue to dock my cheques until i mention something
12:50 <arch> govt is in bed with wallst: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/will-the-sec-sue-gamestop-traders-183845241.html
13:19 <Nothing\> arch, hahaha yeah actually i just read about this app called robinhood that lets you trade stocks without any commissions or anything
13:32 <Nothing\> and apparently the app is blocking people from trading gamestop, and a few other stocks
13:40 <arch> you been living under a rock or what? robinhood's been around for at least 3 years
13:47 <Nothing\> also, blackberry's stocks have tripled because of talk on reddit, nothing else
13:53 <Nothing\> arch: i am
13:58 <Nothing\> i am quite reclusive
14:04 <Nothing\> you got a problem with that?
14:07 <Nothing\> you got beef?
14:12 <Nothing\> lol
14:24 <Nothing\> are you a rockist?
16:05 <Nothing\> so this article's a bit over my head
16:14 <Nothing\> what exactly did these traders do that's bad?
16:36 <Nothing\> manipulating stocks by doing something on reddit is all i could gather
17:15 <arch> it's not manipulation. they acted on publicly available information...it seems like the fake news media has already poisoned your mind
17:49 <Nothing\> speaking of which
18:59 <Nothing\> apparently one of the reasons trump didn't believe covid was a big deal was because he was being fed "parallel information" one stream from the legit people with real data, and another stream from some unknown source which was feeding him false data, graphs, statistics, stuff like that
19:37 <Ampera> honestly I've been sitting out this story
19:54 <Ampera> it's amusing, but I don't really know what's going on besides some internet hooligans having a laugh
20:12 <Nothing\> you mean the stock exchange one?
20:16 <Nothing\> or the trump one?
20:21 <arch> why not both?
20:27 <Ampera> and I don't care to know, because sifting through countless sources to find who is lying and how is more effort than I care about
20:35 <Nothing\> yeha the news is just depressing
20:43 <Ampera> well Trump in general, because the one true thing that can be said about him is that everything said about him is a lie
20:45 <Nothing\> anywho i've got breakfast eggs to devour
20:47 <Nothing\> tata
20:56 <Ampera> just to different people's benefit
36:13 <Ysjoelfir> So I wanted to work on applications today. Mrs. spouse forcefully made me watch some netflix series stuff since 1300. It was horrible, tense as hell and interesting and I had much enjoys, so I haven't done anything besides sitting here in my bedroll watching shit. I hate watching movie stuff :X
37:07 <Ysjoelfir> for all non GMT+1 guys: its 20:36 here now
52:21 <Nothing\> sounds like a good day to me
13:17 <Ysjoelfir> horrible
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20:07 <rust-ee> BOOM
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20:47 <rust-ee> ta daa
22:36 <rust-ee> did someone turn this thing off?
24:44 <hsn> 42, rust-ee!
25:22 <rust-ee> oh crap, didnt Halcyon wake up yet?
25:57 <rust-ee> he is probably doing something important.
26:07 <rust-ee> like his hair
26:22 <hsn> Nah the horrible guy doesnt respect my shift timing
26:42 <rust-ee> tsssk tssssk
31:01 <rust-ee> i wonder when i will get done today. there are a bit too many in line, which is not a good sign
32:47 <rust-ee> i at least hooe they are in line, because if they dont move, i doubt i can get this weird trailer where it should be
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36:39 <Ysjoelfir> what kind of weird trailer are you trailering today?
37:11 <rust-ee> EEVBlog: convert darkness to cubic yards
37:50 <rust-ee> it is a regular 45 foot box in a dolly
37:57 <rust-ee> on
38:20 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds rather normal and unweird?
38:29 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 45 foot to meters
38:29 <EEVBlog> The result is: 13.716 meters
38:59 <rust-ee> so, same as most people use on a semi, just that i do not have a semi
40:25 <Ysjoelfir> do you have to work with such a strange thing? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_als_Sattelzugmaschine_IMG_1885.jpg/1920px-Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_als_Sattelzugmaschine_IMG_1885.jpg
40:42 <rust-ee> nooooooo!
41:13 <rust-ee> i do sort of like mini things
42:31 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: I've seen something much weirder. A sedan car with a circular fitting in the middle of its roof. A caravan sits behind the car, wrapping over its roof, and connecting to the circular fitting
42:58 <Ysjoelfir> yep, saw that thing on a pic once. I like the idea, somehow
43:01 <rust-ee> very bug y
46:23 <hsn> khanacademy guy says: both of these arrows goes to infinity but this arrow goes twice as infinity as the other arrow ..
46:34 <hsn> and im like .. yeah it make no sense .. good night ..
46:50 <rust-ee> wwll, more is better
47:35 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/ack9Xb.jpg
47:50 <hsn> even youtube auto "cc" thing cant complete that sentence
47:51 <coppice> all infinities are equal, but some are more equal than others
48:30 <rust-ee> if i could choose between infinite money, and twice infinite money, i would go for the double one, just because it sound better
49:01 <hsn> rust-ee, maybe the twice one .. will drawn u and u choke
49:15 <coppice> if you have infinite money even the effect of a really high interest rate can be very disappointing
49:19 <rust-ee> that is a bonus
49:21 <hsn> but the 1x infinity .. is just enough ..
49:47 <hsn> so what would be the interest of infinity
49:59 <hsn> another infinity ?
50:09 <rust-ee> but, single-infinite does not sound as good
50:16 <hsn> so u get 2x infinities ? or a growing infinity ?
50:35 <hsn> rust-ee, fck sound .. it does imagine good ..
51:36 <hsn> i just want 200k to buy a normal ass house
51:49 <hsn> nah it wont be enough here
52:00 <rust-ee> heh. go to greenland, and buy an igloo
52:02 <hsn> i just want 275k to buy a normal ass house
53:07 <hsn> https://www.propertyfinder.bh/en/buy/villa-for-sale-central-governorate-sitra-408308.html
53:08 <rust-ee> wth? people are running around and stuff....
53:31 <Ysjoelfir> I would want 600k NOK to buy half of norway in a nice part of norway.
53:51 <hsn> fck my life : https://www.propertyfinder.bh/en/buy/villa-for-sale-northern-governorate-saar-410515.html
54:30 <hsn> runing around ?
54:50 <rust-ee> maybe you should go on facebook, and make that area look bad, and see if the pruce drips?
55:01 <rust-ee> or drops
55:12 <rust-ee> price
55:20 <rust-ee> words words
55:34 <hsn> nah it wont .. the only thing can drop is u
55:39 <hsn> which is me
56:02 <rust-ee> infinite u
57:28 <hsn> the good news .. if i work full time and only spend 800$ monthly .. i can get the 318k$ after 20years and buy my self simple house .. like the first one
57:51 <rust-ee> sounds good
58:13 <hsn> 600$ of the 800$ goes to the rent allready ..
58:31 <hsn> so i need to live with 200$ monthly
58:32 <rust-ee> that is how it works
58:37 <hsn> to buy a fcking house after 20 years
58:42 <hsn> :D
59:19 <hsn> i better go sleep and dream about having house .. more realistic ..
59:23 <hsn> then reality
59:43 <rust-ee> no no, you must wait for halcyon
00:02 <hsn> Halcyon doesnt respect the bro code
00:13 <rust-ee> i know
00:45 <rust-ee> he is more like a cat
00:51 <rust-ee> with wings
01:10 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/Gt2WVLoTFaBtL48i6
01:13 <rust-ee> that lives under water
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07:35 <hsn> being on that site show me some good villas with 500sqm .. 715k$ only
09:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Is it worth spinning off a (much shorter) $2k active probe vs a $2 DIY probe video with extra content? Or would everyone be "probed out"? Obviously that one could have a juicy clickbait title and thumbnail.
09:17 <hsn> i need to do my own business and buy a house after 10yrs or somthing ;')
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21:37 <rust-ee> good temporary night
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24:03 <hsn> whaat ?
24:06 <hsn> tempwhaaaaat ?
24:19 <hsn> dont leave me alone rust_collector
34:05 <Ysjoelfir> hsn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoVWAvvoyc
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43:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: auf spasheze
44:48 <hsn> In case u wonder what im trying to say
45:27 <hsn> Its just the "tone" of the words im creating
47:50 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
52:48 <hsn> Shouldnt u sleep
52:52 <hsn> ?
53:40 <Ysjoelfir> its still today for 7 minutes?
53:50 <hsn> How this guy lands https://www.instagram.com/p/CKj0IJ-lORJ/?igshid=1l4wqfzvg3kn9 ? And what sport name
54:36 <hsn> Oh yeah forgot that u r 2 hours late now
54:46 <hsn> 1:54 here
55:52 <Ysjoelfir> he uses a parachute to land. no idea what its called, but I know that this suit is called a glidesuit (well, the german equivalent).
59:51 <hsn> Wingsuit flying (or wingsuiting) is the sport of flying through the air using a wingsuit which adds surface area to the human body to enable a significant increase in lift. The modern wingsuit, first developed in the late 1990s, creates a surface area with fabric between the legs and under the arms. Wingsuits are sometimes referred to as "birdman suits" (after the makers of the first commercial wingsuit), "squirrel suits" (from their resemblance to flying
59:51 <hsn> squirrels' wing membrane), and "bat suits" (due to their resemblance to the animal or perhaps the superhero).
02:01 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that
02:59 <hsn> Wingsuit flying is dangerous, and the pursuit of it has contributed to a number of notable fatalities since its inception. Despite training and regulation, wingsuit BASE jumping remains a precarious pastime. A 2012 University of Colorado study found that for wingsuit BASE jumping there was approximately one severe injury for every 500 jumps undertaken
03:30 <hsn> 1/500 seems like acceptable risk to me
05:06 <Ysjoelfir> lol
05:09 <Ysjoelfir> have fun^^
08:48 <hsn> Thanks
08:51 <hsn> U2 gn
09:56 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 :)
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03:57 <coppice> WTF is Dave talking about? Has he looked at the microcontroller market in the last 5 years. For anything big and fast a microcontroller with program RAM that boots from a serial flash die, either in the same package or in a separate one, is becoming the norm.
08:13 <hsn> Its a cortex m0p with peripherals .. if not mcu then what?
09:08 <rust_collector> ok, what are you people talking about?
10:17 <hsn> rust_collector: the tweet
10:33 <rust_collector> hah. I don't know that.
10:51 <hsn> Eevblog help
11:13 <hsn> Eevblog status
11:13 <EEVBlog> Latest EEVBlog Tweet: The Raspberry Pi RP2040 is NOT a true microcontroller. It has no internal program memory & therefore cannot run programs internally like a microcontroller is supposed to* https://t.co/1yLlf3zd1M * Code can execute from RAM, & there is a fixed boot ROM https://t.co/y74rJ5c947
11:22 <hsn> This one
11:33 <rust_collector> I am actually enjoying this channel much more now, after I blocked the bot
11:50 <hsn> Why would you do that
12:10 <hsn> Eevblog cowsay rust unblock me please
12:17 <rust_collector> because I like enjoying the channel more
12:21 <hsn> Lol
13:47 <rust_collector> it is just daves tweets that annoy me about that. If I was interested, I would have him on twitter
16:05 <rust_collector> ok, I am heating up some kind of mystery schnitzel. it will be interesting to see what it is
17:19 <hsn> Schnitzel
17:43 <rust_collector> maybe, we will see
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18:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oh the massive irony when a company called @RobinhoodApp shuts down the ability of the poor to (legally) take from the rich.
19:30 <coppice> They say hedge fund losses are now up to $80B. Fun times
21:18 <rust_collector> hsn, https://www.thespruceeats.com/wiener-schnitzel-recipe-1447089
22:10 <rust_collector> coppice, I have noticed that something is happening with stock stuff, but I am not sure what. the new guy was talking about it earlier, but I did not get what he said
23:53 <coppice> rust_collector: people on reddit have been buying up stock in companies being heavily shorted by hedge funds, pushing the share price through the roof and bankrupting the hedge funds
24:33 <rust_collector> reddit. lol
24:38 <rust_collector> ok, that is good
26:36 <hsn> I think it started with game company
27:36 <coppice> rust_collector: try looking up some videos on youtube where wall st people have responded to this. they are seriously pissed off at being scammed by the public, because they believe in their divine right to be the ones scamming the public
27:36 <hsn> And teenager gamers .. and one investing company was losing because they tried to do short selling of gamestop
28:21 <rust_collector> good good
28:47 <hsn> coppice well they dont like ppl randomly buying and selling just for no reason
29:53 <coppice> hsn: you mean because they randomly buy and sell, but with the fine reason of profiting from driving good companies into the ground?
30:58 <hsn> R they driving the companies to ground?
31:17 <rust_collector> usually
31:32 <hsn> How so
31:36 <coppice> yep. they keep driving down company share prices to the point where the companies can't raise any new money
32:38 <coppice> There are reports the reddit people are up to 5000 companies with massive short positions from hedge funds that they are pumping
33:49 <coppice> hedge funds are the worst of the worst on wall st. they attack entire countries, and not just tiny ones. They nearly broke in the UK in the 1980s
39:21 <T3sl4> that, and private equity, the what is it, oh yeah leveraged buyouts
39:48 <T3sl4> either the victim pulls through despite the debt burden, or collapses into a pile of cash, either way they win
40:00 <coppice> anything with leverage should be treated with suspicion
40:13 <T3sl4> nah it's okay, money doesn't exist anyway
40:20 <T3sl4> we can print it from thin air forever
41:09 <coppice> if the people are prepared to take on something with significant leverage, you can be sure they have rigged the game so they don't expect it to be an actual gamble..... until REDIT!
42:20 <T3sl4> also, why is this a new thing? is this the first stock in recent history that's been shorted > 100%?
42:36 <T3sl4> surely it's happened before, and surely the only reason it happened now is because idiots don't learn lessons
44:45 <coppice> huge numbers are shorted >100%. The difference this time is a large scale response
46:46 <T3sl4> do big hedge funds tend to be less predatory between themselves? surely one would've noticed the opportunity to buy enough to do this
47:19 <coppice> The HK government spanked the hedge funds on this in the early 2000s. The tampered in the HK stock exchange and currency markets so much, the HK government started using its massive cash pile to buy up all sorts of things, and bankrupted some hedge funds
47:52 <coppice> T3sl4: they don't engage in mutually assured destruction. where is the money in that?
50:19 <T3sl4> so, it's a process that reduces market cap, not just a zero sum transfer of money?
51:35 <T3sl4> still, if there's enough players, there's a profit motive for some to be predatory while most are cooperative, so that suggests some other channel (regulation? conspiration?*)
51:56 <T3sl4> *not that it's necessarily like illegal conspiracy, just that there's more than nothing going on
52:03 <coppice> its zero sum, because it creates nothing. It just siphons off market cap as cash to the hedge fund
53:52 <T3sl4> makes sense. and the real value (i mean, the source of money) is the companies' stock ultimately, so if you can suck them dry you get whatever their value was, basically?
54:40 <T3sl4> (i mean, given that stock value isn't directly related to the various ways a corporation can be valued)
55:16 <coppice> to do what the reddit users have done they have to soak up most of the available stock, and refuse to lend it to the hedge funds. Apparently people like robbing hoods will lend it by default. You need to block that, and leave so little accessible stock on settlement days that the hedge fund has to pay any price to avoid a default
56:55 <coppice> The hedge funds don't compete. they cooperate. they are bailing each other out at the moment. if they want to break someone really big they need scale, so they need to maintain a good level of cooperation
57:03 <T3sl4> so, a gentlemans agreement
57:13 <T3sl4> or more rather, a ratfuckerman's agreement
57:20 <coppice> if you can call them gentlemen
58:58 <T3sl4> so, if we're talking a few $B for GME, there are plenty of funds that size -- not that it would be wise to invest that much of ones' portfolio on a risky ravishing, but in principle, surely they could?
59:49 <coppice> Melvin Capital has lost 40% of its value in the last week
00:17 <T3sl4> ...of course, that's the thing with shorts, the risk is hyperbolic
01:10 <coppice> if they have positions in other companies being pumped, they will probably be out of business next week
01:34 <T3sl4> wait, what ratio are they at anyway? was this just a few percent play at the time, and now it's like >50x worse?
09:00 * arch short circuits T3sl4
09:11 <T3sl4> timmy five alive!
21:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Just shot half a repair video with my micophone disconnected. #ProfessionalYoutuber
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42:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: LOL #GME https://t.co/WD7wlYHeSw
08:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Gamestop technical analysis: https://t.co/aHR8PuXuHV
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29:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If @FlukeCorp made the Fluke 37 again, would anyone buy it? https://t.co/SVZRMLVy5I
30:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Stupid Twitter won't allow a poll with images. So here is the poll:
48:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Google deletes 150,000 1 star Robinhood app reviews This whole game just gets more ridiculous by the hour! https://t.co/IkIiK6P1xo
49:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Thomas Zarebczan 📚 🧐: Please don't be the ones left holding the Doge bags... Congrats to those who held or got in, but this won't end well.
04:43 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Whatever I do, I simply CANNOT screw the macro lens onto my camera with my left hand. First go every time with my right hand.
23:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: -1 is technically correct, I'm not using a battery... https://t.co/3U3EjIPplL
44:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If you're still HODLing Dogecoin, umm.... https://t.co/3i5R3T6PlX
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05:52 <hsn> <T3sl4> surely it's happened before, and surely the only reason it happened now is because idiots don't learn lessons
05:59 <hsn> T3sl4, whaaat ?
06:14 <hsn> im idiot and i learn lessons .. !
06:35 <hsn> BOM to ur phase :>
15:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: TechCrunch: Coinbase is going public via direct listing https://t.co/xB8uJX9paH by @lucasmtny
35:21 * T3sl4 sells stock in hsn
38:03 <hsn> im gonna rise
38:54 * Halcyon noms on some cronchy muesli
39:35 <hsn> 42, Halcyon!
39:44 <Halcyon> Yes
40:05 <hsn> did u have 2x enough sleeps ?
40:27 <Halcyon> :(
40:29 <Halcyon> Nope
45:29 * T3sl4 snacks some fresh curry
46:49 <Halcyon> I could use something spicy to clear my nose
47:13 <T3sl4> i put a bit of spice in it
47:55 <T3sl4> i have some... random dried chili mix dad made, that's pretty lethal if not very aromatic, you'd probably like it with a bit more in
48:08 <Halcyon> :)
49:35 * hsn goes banana
50:06 <T3sl4> it's got onion, garlic, ginger, carrot, broccoli, green bell pepper, tofu, canned tomato, coconut milk, chicken broth, a little corn starch to thicken, and turmeric, cumin, coriander seed, tiny bit of clove, black pepper for spice
50:23 <Halcyon> Oh it's a vego curry
50:53 <Halcyon> Green peas (just the stuff you get frozen) is really nice in curry too
51:09 <T3sl4> the thought crossed my mind, this would be good with pea pods
51:28 <Halcyon> Yeh who whole peas, whatever floats ya boat
51:33 <Halcyon> *or
51:43 <T3sl4> whoor
51:55 <Halcyon> My brain is broke
52:09 <Halcyon> It's been full of snot and pleghm for days
52:13 <Halcyon> And I've slept like shit
52:30 * T3sl4 injects powdered ghost chilie into Halcyon's air supply
52:33 <Halcyon> Tonight I'm taking a Tamazepam and knocking myself out for 10 hours so I can actually get some rest
53:42 <hsn> Yesterday food was good https://photos.app.goo.gl/ea7HsGAbwkqTEnbG8
53:53 <Halcyon> Which reminds me, I need to order some more cooking pots from Ikea
54:09 <hsn> banana doesnt want to get uploaded
54:19 <Halcyon> That looks delicious hsn
54:25 <Halcyon> What is it? Chicken?
54:25 <hsn> google photos be like : perpearing files for long time
54:35 <hsn> yes .. shawarma chicken thingy
55:12 <Halcyon> Yummy, did you make it?
56:11 * T3sl4 pitas the fool hsn
56:11 <hsn> no i never make stuff .. wife make
56:32 <hsn> we are one so u can consider me make it :P
57:00 <hsn> T3sl4, looking to pita images it looks like shawarma exactly
57:49 <T3sl4> aye
58:08 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/gPxUlhA
59:35 <T3sl4> a hand of scales
59:53 <hsn> scales ?
00:00 <T3sl4> its an imgur thing
00:28 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/M1sHb2K4zikiRpuX7
00:30 <hsn> this one
00:39 <Halcyon> I just emailed Dave, I asked if we can create a "Recipes" forum on the EEVblog forum page
00:45 <Halcyon> We need to document this stuff
01:14 <hsn> hahaha
01:16 <hsn> nice
01:32 <hsn> EEFblog
01:51 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/2NytM
02:22 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
03:15 <Halcyon> That is fucking huge T3sl4
03:17 <hsn> thats huge Bnana
03:21 <Halcyon> Hej Ampera
03:25 <Halcyon> I'm still sick :(
03:30 <T3sl4> you put it in the other end, Halcyon
03:36 * hsn coughs covid
03:50 <Halcyon> It goes in the mouth end?
03:52 <Halcyon> Who knew
03:53 <Halcyon> :P
04:10 <hsn> chokenana
04:44 <hsn> https://imgur.com/gallery/MTZ8P6o
05:01 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
05:20 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/IBuFP4w
06:00 <hsn> how does imgur work for free ?
06:10 <hsn> all that traffic and storage .. ?!
06:39 <hsn> https://i.imgur.com/wSNCcxZ.mp4
06:46 <hsn> T3sl4, from comment of ur vid
07:27 <T3sl4> aye
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17:10 <hsn> T3sl4, https://www.reddit.com/r/PrintedCircuitBoard/comments/l7ghcf/12v_to_15v_step_up_with_mt3608_anything_blatantly/
17:20 <hsn> Magnetic field from the inductor can couple into the ground plane underneath it. It's not uncommon to remove plane area directly underneath the inductor.
17:20 <hsn> And as mentioned, make the switching loop as small as possible: Move D5 to the left towards the inductor.
17:26 <hsn> is this good advise ???
17:36 <hsn> for me it looks like it will radiate alot ?
18:25 <T3sl4> magnetic field thing doesn't matter, just don't use air core inductors duh
18:32 <T3sl4> the rest is spot on
19:27 <hsn> the loop small as possible is ok ..
19:48 <hsn> but the inductor thingy .. i would want it to couple into gnd plane ....... no ???
20:17 <hsn> if i used or didnt use air core .. i would want a gnd underneath it .. ?
21:37 <T3sl4> most inductors dont have much external field in the board direction, easily selected by photo/drawing
23:55 <hsn> if im afraid of the gnd being noisy .. i might do some cuts around it and leave small connection to rest of gnd plane like this : https://snipboard.io/5xAFYq.jpg
23:57 <Kuschelpony> good friday
24:29 <hsn> the blue shaded area = plane cut ..
24:37 <Kuschelpony> hsn, and t3... i think i mostly agree to all of this
25:29 <hsn> good friday to u 2 Kuschelpony
25:34 * T3sl4 brushes Kuschelpony
25:36 <Kuschelpony> except that i am in the camp of leaving the ground plane intact, but instead do define an independ 0V reference point
25:59 <T3sl4> hsn, just cut out around/under it, not like making an island
26:11 <Kuschelpony> and absolutely yes to use an at least partially shielded inductor
27:04 <Kuschelpony> i ahve just this moment an cubic one from an defective mainboard next to me and one of my things i want to do today is to head and disassemble that and rewind it
27:30 <Kuschelpony> seems like the ferrite is doing well even at 13,56Mhz
28:01 <hsn> T3sl4, im afraid i cant understand u :D .. aroud under it = it doesnt get coupled .. shouldnt u couple all radiations if u want it to be quiet in EMC ?
28:16 <hsn> Kuschelpony, yes that plane to be connected through a ferrite
28:16 <T3sl4> electric or magnetic coupling
28:23 <T3sl4> i thought we're talking magnetic
28:45 <hsn> T3sl4, isnt there that graph of "magnatic field" converge to EM
29:02 <hsn> wait let me find what im talking about otherwise i will not make sense to u
29:18 <T3sl4> do you ever?
29:21 <T3sl4> jk
29:40 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/b417k6Ez77HFis2E8
29:46 <Kuschelpony> hsn, i meant the "ground plane" as the return of all currents, the intentional as well as the unwanted ones, like the drain system in the streets
30:10 <Kuschelpony> and additionally define a node that is per definition the point of 0V and then all inputs referenced to this point
30:19 <hsn> T3sl4, from above picture .. i though magnatic field will be converted to EM wave after some distance
30:37 <T3sl4> hsn, yeah and what d/lambda is ground plane near an inductor?
31:19 <hsn> very small ..
32:15 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: calling it a "drain system" would probably lead to misunderstanding, currents don't flow in loops in a sewer system, nor do waves in the sewer cause complementary "image" waves in the streets above
32:47 <T3sl4> heh, that'd be weird if they did. gravitationally i suppose, it kinda does, but it takes really big things to pull a tide so yeah :P
33:16 <Kuschelpony> sorry, thats where my english was not good enough to translate it right
33:20 <T3sl4> but that would still be a mostly DC thing, and there's no magnetic counterpart to gravity until you consider relativity
33:35 <T3sl4> anyway, i digress, i don't mean to try and embarass you by taking a mistranslation way too far :P
33:52 <Kuschelpony> i meant in the way that the ground plane is everywhere unbroken as the mirror for the hoit line above
34:27 <hsn> T3sl4, is einstein relative to u ?
34:39 <Kuschelpony> so that any loop on the signal side from bypass cap to active element and final sink is closed through the copper sea underside
34:44 <T3sl4> no, he's |einstein| to me
35:13 <T3sl4> Kuschelpony: right, or similarly through top copper when available (preferably both w/ via stitching)
37:29 <hsn> T3sl4, from the discussion above i think i understand 10% .. does that mean u are saying ::: most of H field doesnt get coupled to gnd plane ?
38:28 <Kuschelpony> i hope it is ok if i stay silent until i can be reasonably sure to translate right
38:52 <hsn> Kuschelpony, that common between u and me .. i dont understand T3sl4 most of the time lol
38:56 <T3sl4> oh no, i did embarrass you then :(
39:08 <Kuschelpony> no worries
39:11 <hsn> T3sl4, u embraced him
39:25 <T3sl4> just try to explain with many synonyms, that's both a strength and weakness of english i suppose
39:41 <Kuschelpony> i understand most of when ts... writes sincve i already know it from my own education and deduction of everything
40:03 <T3sl4> hsn, that's a meaningless statement: coupled from what? geometry matters. coupled how? what is it supposed to do in the ground plane? if you mean that it is coupled and blocked as a shield, then yes, a contiguous and thick ground is preferable
40:26 <T3sl4> what if coupling increases losses too much, or reduces the inductance? then less ground would be preferable
40:58 <Kuschelpony> i think the worst situation is an asymetric cut in the ground plane under the inductor, as this will act like an antrenna and guide the induced current away to other circuit parts
41:21 <T3sl4> in the first place, we're assuming an inductor with a substantial external field i guess, which implies these effects (loss and drop in L) will be noticeable
41:28 <hsn> T3sl4, now u embarace me
41:47 <Kuschelpony> so either full thick unbroken plane if this doies not affect the inductor like he wrote above, or a complete and approximate symmetric hole in the plane
42:45 <T3sl4> i don't mind slots either tbh, they'll probably not be great for losses because the field around a small object will be strongly divergent (i.e. the slot doesn't act as much of an un-shorted turn), and as antennas go we're talking frequencies wildly different from that
43:06 <hsn> ok, yes i mean coupled as "radiation" get much less .. now u mention inductane will also get reduced ..
43:26 <Kuschelpony> mmh, i meant not as a antenna that emits waves, but as a coupling like the link line
43:40 <hsn> it make sense to have gnd plane cut to save inductance ..
43:50 <Kuschelpony> sorry i realyl drop out here before i misguide someone
43:56 <T3sl4> but that can be a concern in very sensitive applications (a slot antenna that might be resonant at 3GHz has an asymptotic cutoff at low frequencies, with radiation proportional to frequency), or where such harmonics are significant
44:13 <T3sl4> hence why you don't run high speed signals over plane splits, for example
45:31 <T3sl4> and also because the field is strongly divergent around a small component, it might not take much distance to avoid the majority of the field (say, reduce |H| by 10dB at the copper surface), so you might leave the back side copper solid and just relieve the top side
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46:18 <hsn> 20log 10
46:24 <hsn> 20x times ..
46:35 <T3sl4> that would work for like a 1812 chip inductor (air core and unshielded axial ferrite/powder core types are common in such sizes), relieving top side copper and leaving back side in place
46:36 <hsn> make much sense to me than dB thingy :P
46:47 <T3sl4> hsn, 10dB is 10x power or sqrt(10) voltage/current
46:50 <hsn> 20logx = 10dB
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47:20 <T3sl4> but that wouldn't work for like, the same thing in a 12mm block
48:25 <hsn> since this is not voltage the defintion of db is ---------> 10 log (ratio) = 10dB
48:59 <hsn> e^(10dB / 10) = ratio <------- no ?
49:04 <T3sl4> H is proportional to current
49:16 <Halcyon> OK guys, Dave seems to be supportive of an "off-topic" section, subject to some boundaries. What do you guys think of this as a starting point for recipes: https://pastebin.com/kjW65Uxf
49:59 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon hard enough to squeeze out some mucus
50:46 <Ampera> I won't use it, as I never use units of measurement while cooking
51:01 <Halcyon> That's because you're retarded
51:10 <hsn> Halcyon, that “tastes like shit”
51:16 <hsn> :P
51:19 <Halcyon> Feel:P
51:24 <Ampera> I have recipes, but with quantities up to the follower
51:25 <Halcyon> I mean :P
51:37 <Halcyon> Well Ampera, recipes should be scalable
51:43 <Halcyon> Meaning there should be quantities
51:53 <Ampera> I've done fine without them
52:00 <Halcyon> Have you? ;-)
52:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon, cups or mls? :P
52:21 <Ampera> Yes, everything I've cooked on my website has never had a recipe, and never had defined quantities
52:39 <hsn> Halcyon, i will create a reciepe for 10 people ... with "1 sugar" ..... so when u can scale it down to 1 person .. u have to cut a sugar piece to 10 pieces
52:40 <Halcyon> T3sl4: Use "fistfulls" for all I care
52:51 <Halcyon> Sometimes quanties matter, other times they don't
52:59 <Ampera> they matter when it's a cake
53:12 <Halcyon> hsn: Sugar is normally measured in grams
53:24 <hsn> ok 1 gram then
53:26 <Ampera> but for making real food, most people can figure out not to put 2 pounds of salt and 1 tsp of chicken
53:34 <Ampera> sugar is never measured in grams here
53:37 <Halcyon> Ampera: Don't assume that
53:46 <Halcyon> Some people have no fucking idea
53:47 <Ampera> all dry ingredients are always measured in volume
53:52 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 gram to lb
53:52 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.002 lb
54:00 <hsn> 0.002 lb sugar
54:09 <Ampera> means nothing to me, I have no idea how much sugar that is
54:11 <T3sl4> weight is better than volume for flour, at least when it matters
54:14 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 gram to ounce
54:14 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.035 ounce
54:27 <Ampera> still have no idea, we do not measure our sugar in ounces
54:45 <T3sl4> such a shame, i know precisely how much sugar that is
54:45 <Halcyon> Volume is fine, but then it depends on the ingredient. i.e.: 1 "volume" of caster sugar is less than 1 "volume" of superfine sugar.
54:46 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 gram to cm^3
54:46 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
54:56 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 gram of sugar to cm^3
54:56 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
55:01 <hsn> oh crap
55:08 <T3sl4> hsn, thats called density
55:09 <Ampera> yes, but 1 volume of granulated sugar is roughly equivalent to 1 volume of granulated sugar
55:21 <Halcyon> Depends on the size of the granulation
55:27 <Ampera> there is only one size
55:29 <Ampera> granulated
55:45 <Halcyon> I have at least 4 different sizes of sugar crystals in my pantry
55:49 <hsn> T3sl4, i dont even know what we are discussing anymore :P
55:50 <Ampera> if you follow a recipe and it asks for sugar, or even granulated sugar, it's a standard size
55:59 <hsn> im just playing with Ampera's bot to annoy Ampera
56:04 <Ampera> we have granulated sugar and powdered sugar
56:14 <Ampera> hsn, you're not annoying me, you're annoying the bot
56:16 <Halcyon> Standard caster sugar is courser than superfine, which is courser than powdered sugar
56:24 <Ampera> I have no idea what caster sugar is
56:35 <hsn> Ampera, i annoy u by my nature
56:36 <hsn> :P
56:38 <Halcyon> It's the normal shit you normally put in coffee/tea
56:40 <T3sl4> castor sugar is beaver-flavored
56:47 <Halcyon> Just, bog standard sugar
56:48 <Ampera> I don't drink coffee nor tea
56:54 <Ampera> and when I drink coffee I don't put anything in it
56:58 <hsn> what u drink Ampera
57:01 <Ampera> water
57:07 <hsn> h2so4
57:16 <Ampera> no
57:31 <Halcyon> Ampera drinks the Kool-aid
57:37 <T3sl4> ^
57:39 <Ampera> I have never had kool aid in my life
57:47 <Halcyon> The other type of kool aid
58:30 <T3sl4> i should make kool aid pickles some time
58:33 <T3sl4> that sounds good
58:42 <Halcyon> Is that a thing?
59:16 <T3sl4> https://tornadoughalli.com/kool-aid-pickles/
59:37 <Halcyon> Fuck me, there you go.
59:39 <Ampera> I need to come on here when T3sl4 isn't on so I don't have to keep seeing people replying to nobody
59:57 <T3sl4> i love me some pickles
59:58 <Halcyon> Kind of like Vodka-spiked watermelon
00:18 <T3sl4> or uh, vermouth soaked olive
00:21 <Halcyon> https://www.thespruceeats.com/vodka-watermelon-recipe-4175568
01:10 <T3sl4> step 3 looks good, step 4 they forgot to microwave it though. not sure what they're trying to make here
01:47 <Halcyon> T3sl4: Microwave?
01:59 * Halcyon spanks Ampera like the bitch that he is
02:09 <T3sl4> not familiar with that reference? microwave it to ~body temp, then apply lube?
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02:29 <Halcyon> Nawww, I think he is upset
02:42 <T3sl4> wow, that wasn't just a playful spank, you fucking launched him
02:51 <Halcyon> Sometimes I get carried away
03:02 <T3sl4> i wonder if he'll ever unban and hash it out like an adult
03:17 <Halcyon> *shrug* What you two have going is between you two
03:20 <Halcyon> I'm staying out of it
03:35 <T3sl4> fair. twas a rhetorical statement
03:40 <Halcyon> Quite
05:31 <Halcyon> Anyway's, what's doing?
05:47 <Halcyon> Oohh Mike Jeavons is doing a new week on
05:49 <T3sl4> watching some guy play some game
06:15 <T3sl4> also, idly still thinking about dictionary coding. i have another idea to test, so i'll write that up and see
06:36 <Halcyon> Fun
07:57 <T3sl4> i'm curious how long it'll take to run a dynamic programming algorithm
08:05 <T3sl4> probably awful, but eh, i have time
09:25 <Halcyon> I'm having a Tim Tam and a wine, because fuck it, I'm sick
09:31 <T3sl4> \o/
10:07 <MrMobodies> Hello, just cleaned out the coffee maker
10:08 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
10:13 <T3sl4> now, are you sipping it with it, like you would a coffee?
10:30 <Halcyon> No
10:32 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/aTJc3ru
10:33 <Halcyon> I've never tried it
10:38 <Halcyon> I don't like a soggy bikkie
10:41 <MrMobodies> well I have to rinse it a lot
10:49 <MrMobodies> it probably hasn't been used for 20 years
10:51 <MrMobodies> no water in there
11:03 <MrMobodies> just coffee granuals stuck in the filter
11:14 <MrMobodies> which I am trying remove with a toothbrush
11:21 <Halcyon> All the best stuff is made in Japan
11:42 <MrMobodies> easily servicable too
11:47 <MrMobodies> and simple how it works
12:02 <Halcyon> I have a paintbrush I use for mine, although mine is an espresso machine, so even just running water through it is good enough between proper cleans
12:25 <MrMobodies> great name, filter mill, the coffee is ground up and soes straight in the jug
12:57 <Halcyon> What are the 3 grind settings for? Courseness?
13:23 <MrMobodies> that is how long the grinder stays on
13:27 <Halcyon> Ahh
13:32 <Halcyon> So 1, 2 or 3 cups ?
13:39 <Halcyon> Kind of thing?
13:47 <MrMobodies> no just grind time
13:51 <MrMobodies> if the beans are large
13:54 <MrMobodies> to crush
14:03 <MrMobodies> I think it fills a 8 cup jug
14:30 <T3sl4> oh uh, carafe
14:38 <MrMobodies> yes
15:10 <MrMobodies> hot water goes in the casket, grinder turns on and the piece at the bottom of the filter thing funnels it to the jug
15:36 <MrMobodies> hardly any mess outside is what i like about it easy to clean for the next jug
15:40 <Halcyon> Could you use a paper filter or something to make it easier to clean?
15:54 <MrMobodies> I don't they made a casket for it
16:02 <MrMobodies> I suppose it be retro fitted in
16:13 <MrMobodies> I think sold filters for the casket
16:14 <Halcyon> I see
16:33 <MrMobodies> so it can be replaced but I don't know how to, the blade plastic cover seems very stiff
16:41 <MrMobodies> to get the screw loose
17:03 <MrMobodies> but I find it quicker cleaning that and the jug than reaching for a paper filter
17:17 <MrMobodies> just need good hot water pressure
17:44 <MrMobodies> remove the funnel cover and place it under the tap
17:48 <MrMobodies> all the coffee falls out
17:59 <MrMobodies> I mean of the casket filter thing
18:29 <MrMobodies> they sell a varient in the states called MyCafe
19:05 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-Vintage-TOSHIBA-MY-CAFE-MILL-DRIP-MODEL-HCD-1250/143927816438?hash=item2182c430f6:g:9UEAAOSwF9JgDmxk
19:30 <Halcyon> "Very rare" but only worth $80 ?
20:06 <MrMobodies> yes and sometimes you can still get parts for it
20:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-Coffee-Maker-PARTS-for-My-Cafe-Mill-Drip-12-Cup-HCD-1251-Vintage/13360186883
20:33 <MrMobodies> s://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-Coffee-Maker-PARTS-for-My-Cafe-Mill-Drip-12-Cup-HCD-1251-Vintage/133601868838
20:47 <MrMobodies> oops sorry I didn't copy the last digit
21:17 <MrMobodies> not bad for something that built in about 1985
22:40 <Halcyon> Yeh agree
22:43 <MrMobodies> actually I see an identical one, but a bit expensive to shop it over
22:44 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOSHIBA-My-Cafe-Mill-and-Drip-HCD-801/363269229201
22:53 <MrMobodies> I might want that for parts
23:10 <MrMobodies> except for the heating element is only going to be 120v
24:06 <MrMobodies> I once worked for a plumbing college 10 years ago when I had my first one of these
24:14 <MrMobodies> I brought it one day and the staff loved it
24:28 <MrMobodies> so I made them coffee a lot and they paid me for the beans
24:34 <MrMobodies> it became a bit of a burden though
24:39 <Halcyon> Hehehe
24:45 <MrMobodies> I was like their teaboy until it closed down
24:59 <Halcyon> :P
25:13 <Halcyon> Coffee makes most people happy/bareable
25:50 <MrMobodies> manager came in one day, said to me, is that your coffee machine... I hope you don't mind, I like the look of it and took some, the smell reminded me of something I had on my holidays in ... forgot
26:12 <Halcyon> Nice :)
26:30 <MrMobodies> but that one I tried to clean in 2016
26:45 <MrMobodies> I was told put vinegar down it, and it started to leak
26:55 <MrMobodies> and the filter was becoming saggy
27:09 <MrMobodies> hopefully soon that'll be working
27:16 <MrMobodies> with enough rinses
27:56 <MrMobodies> but I got to get my water filter going, otherwise calcium forms and revolting white bits start floating at the bottom of the jug
28:07 <Halcyon> The only thing I use to clean mine is water and occasionally de-scaler
29:14 <MrMobodies> I think we have hard water here too
29:31 <MrMobodies> I'll try it it couldn't be as bad as Essex
29:40 <Halcyon> Water is fairly soft in Australia generally, but there is still a little build-up over time
29:47 <Halcyon> We don't salt our dishwashers or anything
30:37 <MrMobodies> well when I wake up later i am going to start it up
30:49 <Halcyon> You are not awake now?
31:00 <MrMobodies> no I am about to eat and go to bed
31:08 <MrMobodies> and I'll wake up at about 5pm
31:11 <Halcyon> What time is it where you are?
31:16 <MrMobodies> 8.30am
31:50 <MrMobodies> I live in the night where it is peaceful and sleep in the day, until I can find some paid work.
32:10 <Halcyon> I couldn't sleep during the day
32:16 <Halcyon> The smallest sound wakes me up
32:25 <MrMobodies> that's why I got a massive big power fan
32:32 <MrMobodies> i set it on low to drown out the noise
32:35 <MrMobodies> breakfast prepared... scrambled eggs
46:24 <K> hello beans
50:02 <MrMobodies> i'll buy some when I get it cleaned out
50:25 <MrMobodies> oh beans with scrambled eggs, I did have beans earlier at about 2am or so
53:49 <MrMobodies> I got some of these given to me from a building company used to dry out plaster many years ago
53:52 <MrMobodies> https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1mqssSpXXXXaeXFXXq6xXFXXX8/Strong-Electric-Fan-Home-Floor-Fan-Industry-Fan-Mechanical-High-Power-Fan-Fast-Efficient-Strong-Adjustable.jpg
54:11 <MrMobodies> I clean it up and I put some underlay under to stop the humming on the floorboards
54:27 <MrMobodies> it doesn't seem to rattle like the tilting desk fan
58:24 <K> better bushings prolly
58:29 <T3sl4> hello turnips
59:34 <K> Tu5l4
00:11 <MrMobodies> looks what I found, a mikita rechargeable coffee maker
00:12 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAKITA-CM501DZAR-Rechargeable-Coffee-Maker-Made-JAPAN-UK-stock-Limited-Edition20/264846991701
00:13 * T3sl4 tussles K's hair
01:38 <MrMobodies> anyway got to go to sleep you all later
01:40 <T3sl4> MrMobodies: i had scrambled eggs with swiss cheese on toast this morning, twas good
01:46 <T3sl4> cya
01:47 <MrMobodies> lovelly
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48:21 <rust_collector> morningz
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53:59 <rust_collector> hsn, wake up!
54:36 <hsn> But i only slept 4am to 8am
54:44 <hsn> I deserve sleep
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54:56 <rust_collector> but you don't want it
55:18 <hsn> I dont want to need it
55:57 <hsn> But if i need it .. which is not under my control .. then i want it
56:18 <rust_collector> you have so many complicated rules
56:49 <hsn> No .. i just wish it doesnt exist
58:18 <rust_collector> I wish I was eating something other than these noodles.
59:03 <rust_collector> I think they have got a batch from a different supplier this time, because they are actually not bad
05:53 <T3sl4> i could eat your noodles instead
06:36 <K> uh.
07:22 * T3sl4 wonders if K has been noodling around lately
08:12 <hsn> U should try the safffi fish bahraini way
08:26 <T3sl4> don't bahrain on my parade
08:40 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siganus_rivulatus
09:25 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/Nu1CSbAzXqr88e3U8
09:48 <hsn> A fish that u cannot forget
09:51 <K> i haven't!
09:57 <T3sl4> rabbit(fish) you say? https://i.imgur.com/DXMfkGB.gif
10:20 <hsn> Rabbit?
10:33 <hsn> Non sense
10:35 <hsn> It's
10:42 <hsn> سمك صافي
11:34 <T3sl4> it's squiggles
12:34 <hsn> https://youtu.be/CwYmZ1X4f2A
16:31 <rust_collector> squiggles
17:14 <rust_collector> translate says it means the thickness of sa
17:27 <rust_collector> squiggle squiggle
20:27 <K> squidle
21:14 <rust_collector> not as nice looking as the burmese squiggles, imo
21:36 <K> someone is picky
25:47 <T3sl4> squirtle squirt
26:19 <rust_collector> https://kaichongloi.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/inbound5473780222036818450.jpg?w=700&h=
36:20 <rust_collector> I will take the road to the left, and go to work. have fun
37:04 <T3sl4> take the road less travrighted
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