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34:12 <arch> huh, so optocouplers don't tend to be good for high freqs? looks like the PC817 is only good to about 100kHz before dropping out the voltage gain like crazy
34:50 <arch> https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/73758.pdf page 8
37:50 <K> depens on how much you want to spend
43:28 <arch> le sigh..it never is easy, is it. no wonder engies get paid so much :p
51:16 <K> there are dedeicated ICs
55:09 <hsn> arch, some dont get paid lol
55:28 <hsn> K, knows one allready ;')
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46:24 <electrohead> o/
46:32 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
46:35 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead?
46:42 <electrohead> I'm alright, you?
46:44 * electrohead hugs back
46:47 <Ampera> in a meating
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45:34 <Nothing\> hey yall
45:43 <Nothing\> i think i may have damaged my 1tb hard drive
45:51 <Kuschelpony> Hello Nothing
46:02 <Nothing\> heya Kuschelpony how's it going?
46:20 <Nothing\> i accidentally let a fairly strong magnet snap onto the case of the HDD
46:35 <Nothing\> i know they're well shielded magnetically, but these were pretty strong magnets
46:55 <Kuschelpony> just the usuasl silent late afternoon, having dinner and staring at an empty sheet of papoer and a buch of pens for the case i need them to cath an idea
47:06 <Nothing\> maybe about 1in by 1in cylinder of rare earth magnet, not sure of the grade
47:14 <Nothing\> i just know it's strong enough to lift 20-25lbs
47:31 <Kuschelpony> ouch, thats a size of magnet i would never let snap to something
47:31 <Nothing\> heh i know what you mean
47:47 <Nothing\> i have dozens of pens in discarded tim hortons cups all over my house
47:52 <Nothing\> and dozens more just sitting loose
47:57 <Kuschelpony> hihi
47:58 <Nothing\> or in the spines of notebooks
48:16 <Kuschelpony> my best ideas usually come in the early morning in the trains
48:33 <Nothing\> the shop i go to for the juice for my ecigs gives their pens away for free and always say take as many as you want cuz they have such a surplus of them
48:41 <Nothing\> so i always make a point of grabbing 5 or 6 every time i'm there
48:57 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, or while you're half asleep in bed
49:08 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
49:14 <Nothing\> the problem with that is in order to record them, you have to rouse yourself out of that state
49:21 <Nothing\> heya buddy, how's it going?
49:27 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera 
49:34 <Ampera> Alright
49:39 <Nothing\> eww one of the cats had a poop
49:42 <Kuschelpony> mmh, thats less an moment of good ideas but more a time of where my social fears turn around in the head
49:46 <Ampera> my dad is complaining of network issues, so just trying to figure that out
49:56 <Nothing\> aww jeez i dunno what it is, but their poops smell worse than people poops
50:00 <Kuschelpony> i menat the time when half-sleeping
50:14 <Nothing\> my one cat doesn't even try to bury it, the other one has to bury them for him cuz she doesn't like the smell either
50:19 <Ampera> As for your hard drive, run a test for bad sectors
50:24 <Ampera> if you find none, you're probably fine
50:41 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, ah yes, it is also a great time for introspection, so long as it doesn't upset you.
50:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i should do that at some point
51:00 <Nothing\> atm it's not connected to anything
51:28 <Kuschelpony> not exactly introspection, more like a consciuos nightmare
51:42 <Nothing\> before i couldn't find any way to actually mount it in my computer so i just sorta shoved it inside the drive bay, not a drive bay but the newer kind they have, if you know what i mean.
52:00 <Nothing\> and it wasn't completely horizontal, so i felt like that might affect its longevity
52:10 <Nothing\> but then laptop HDDs deal with that all the time
52:21 <Nothing\> so ultimately i dunno if it would be a problem or not
52:40 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, and that's how insomnia happens, unfortunately
52:43 <Nothing\> :/
53:29 <Kuschelpony> yep
53:51 <Nothing\> when i was still a functioning member of society whenever i'd try to sleep i'd just think "okay i've only got X hours to go until I have to wake up so i need to get to sleep"
54:12 <Nothing\> and just stay up for 2 or 3 hours staring at my eyelids, worrying about how much time i had to sleep and how it was dwindling away
54:39 <Nothing\> i was only getting maybe 2-4 hours of sleep a night
54:45 <Nothing\> no meds seemed to help
54:59 <Nothing\> at least until i got on a very low dose of seroquel and that did absolute wonders for it
55:28 <Nothing\> non-abusable, non-addictive (or so they say, but i'll get into that shortly), no tolerance develops so i was on essentially the same dose the whole 10 years i was taking it
55:52 <Nothing\> and it worked like a charm, keeping me fast asleep for a good 10-16 hours a night
56:16 <Nothing\> but yeah, they say it's not addictive
56:45 <Nothing\> but when i stopped taking it, i got the abosolute worst nausea i've ever had, plus vomiting
57:10 <Nothing\> like just looking at a dirty puddle was enough to make my brain imagine what it tastes like and thenmy stomach would get queasy
57:37 <Nothing\> ah Ampera
57:49 <Nothing\> i brought up the issue with my therapist yesterday with my psychiatrist
58:02 <Nothing\> he agrees at the very least i need a new therapist
58:18 <Nothing\> he wasn't so sure how fruitful a complaint would be since it's basically my word against his
58:31 <steve30> o/
58:50 <Nothing\> and frankly being a drug addicted, mentally ill, convicted (by plea bargain) sex offender my word doesn't mean shit
58:57 <Nothing\> hey steve30 how's it going?
59:27 <Nothing\> i have no doubt i coulda beat that case if i had a competant lawyer
59:30 <Kuschelpony> my problem is a different issue and probably unsolveable
59:58 <Nothing\> i could have had the charges thrown out on account of it took longer than 24 months for a trial to be set, which violates my right to a speed trial
00:04 <steve30> i was feeling good yesterday, but crap today
00:07 <Kuschelpony> think there are special circles of people, lets say about not so much sexual but otherwise adult lifestyle
00:13 <Nothing\> but my lawyer just shrugged it off and tried to say nobody ever got off on that
00:21 <Nothing\> meanwhile i found numerous case reports of people who did
00:30 <Kuschelpony> peiople who are very picky about who they wa<nt to talk with and totally run by gut feelings
00:36 <Nothing\> steve30, aw i'm sorry to hear that, man
00:43 <Nothing\> i hope you're feeling better soon
00:52 <Ampera> Nothing\, well I hope you can figure out how to get yourself off him
01:08 <Kuschelpony> and i am as the typical nerdy engineer just cant please them to be ever accepted
01:24 <Kuschelpony> steve, waht happened with you, can we halp you?
02:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i think first line of business is to make an in-person appointment with my probation officer and bring my mother in with me so we can both explain what we saw that day and bring up our concerns and that i'm planning on submitting a formal complaint against him
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02:21 <Nothing\> and that my psychiatrist's opinion is that i need a new therapist
02:26 <Nothing\> if i can get that in writing, i'm gold
02:50 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak, how are you doing?
02:56 <steve30> I stopped taking my medication a couple of weeks ago so I'm just suffering withdrawal effects.
02:57 <Nothing\> like i'm not trying to weasel out of it or anything. I would love to get an effective therapist
03:25 <ThunderSqueak> doing ok, I get vaccinated today o.o
03:27 <Nothing\> i just want to make sure 1. i no longer have to deal with this guy's BS and 2. nobody else can be a victim of his BS
03:36 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, nice
03:44 * Nothing\ high fives ThunderSqueak 
03:49 <Kuschelpony> oh great
04:02 <Nothing\> steve30, that could well be causing your anxiety
04:07 <Nothing\> what meds were you on?
04:08 <Kuschelpony> im still waitingt, currently its approximately 5 months, until i can sign up for the vaccination
04:14 <Nothing\> if you don't mind my asking, of course
04:33 <steve30> citalopram 40mg
04:40 <Nothing\> ah yeah
04:48 <Nothing\> those SSRIs have some nasty withdrawal effects
04:59 <ThunderSqueak> ah, the native hospital here is vaccinating people as fast as they can get them
05:01 <Nothing\> or SNRIs or whatever citalopram was
05:34 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, i just read about the ex CEO of a Casino and an actress (canadians) traveling to a remote community in the Yukon to get a shot
05:45 <Nothing\> telling the mobile vaccination unit they live and work in the community
05:58 <Nothing\> good luck @ them trying to get their second dose
06:04 <ThunderSqueak> oh that is low :(
06:17 <Kuschelpony> here we are grouped from 1 to 4, the oldest, the sickest and the most system relevant youn are in group 1 now getting their vaccines, i am in group 4
06:22 <ThunderSqueak> like wtf is wrong with them, they allot only so many for an area at a given time
06:40 <Nothing\> yeah and i guess a lot of florida residents are angry because snowbirds (canadians who travel south for the winter) are getting vaccinated
06:47 <ThunderSqueak> some of the villages here are hit really hard :(
06:54 <Nothing\> but this is all accepted by the florida health unit or whatever
06:57 <Kuschelpony> best wishes you dont get it
07:13 <Kuschelpony> (the virus)
07:14 <Nothing\> they say whoever you are or where you're from, if you're part of this community, you're getting the vaccine
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07:40 <Nothing\> yeah i really hope i don't get it, but it looks like the chances are getting better and better
07:50 <Nothing\> especially with the UK variant being found across canada now
08:01 <ThunderSqueak> my wife went in yesterday for hers
08:21 <Nothing\> right on
08:27 <ThunderSqueak> I wanted her to get hers ASAP, her job is extremely high risk.
08:52 <steve30> Nothing\, citalopram = ssri
08:53 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, around here the hardest hit seem to be retirement homes and prisons because they take almost no precautions against spreading it
09:12 <Nothing\> like, retirement homes just let patients with covid wander the halls, no isolation or anything
09:17 <steve30> Nothing\, I did once have Venlafaxine, an SNRI which has far worse withdrawal effects
09:35 <Nothing\> and in prisons, they're housing inmates with covid in the same Gen Pop as people who haven't got it
09:55 <Nothing\> and in some cases, are even making people with covid cellmates with people who don't have it
10:22 <Nothing\> meanwhile in the juvenile system, the kids are made to spend 2 weeks in solitary as isolation to make sure they don't bring it in
10:38 <Nothing\> while solitary is illegal to use on juveniles
10:55 <Nothing\> steve30, ah yeah, i was on effexor once upon a time
10:59 <Nothing\> my brother takes it atm
11:05 <Nothing\> he almost seems to enjoy it
12:00 <Nothing\> personally i've been on zoloft, citalopram, effexor, paxil, depakote and some other variant of it
12:19 <Nothing\> and i had enough of the trial and error game, so i just stopped bothering
17:36 <ThunderSqueak> they opened the schools however without any of the teachers vaccinated, my wife is one. THey don't even have a plan in place to get them vaccinated. it is just stupid
22:38 <ThunderSqueak> we went through IHS instead
22:41 <ThunderSqueak> :/
27:28 <K> what is IHS ?
45:32 <arch> butts...according to my research, average joe optocouplers suck ass past about 60kHz
49:56 <hsn> https://youtu.be/cmkNtrno2Ek
50:01 <hsn> T3sl4: ^^
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11:06 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
14:29 <ThunderSqueak> k, Indian Health Services (Native American Medical)
16:12 <Ysjoelfir> K, I wonder if you could get your hands on cyberflux flux. Seems to be hard to get in germanistan.
16:37 <Ampera> My saltpeter has shipped
17:18 <Ysjoelfir> do you want to build a bomb?
17:23 <ThunderSqueak> what are you doing with saltpeter?
17:36 <Ampera> Biltong
18:34 <Ampera> It's not strictly necessary, but I may eventually want to give people my biltong, so I want to eliminate even the remote chance it might grow botulinum while drying
19:11 <ThunderSqueak> ok, that is a better use then the other uses for that chemical
20:28 <Ampera> This is food grade stuff, much nicer than stuff I'd turn into a blackpowder mix
22:45 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449968711789445127/803691320278253648/20210126_132159.jpg
22:49 <Ampera> This is how my current batch is looking
23:10 <Ampera> the piece on the lower right is a sacrificial piece I cut into in order to check drying progress
23:36 <Ampera> I will not be eating it due to aforementioned botulism risk, but the other pieces should be good, as they've been cured with salt and vinegar
23:43 <Ampera> (and not opened up)
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30:55 <Nothing\> well, given i jsut got out of a meeting with a detective, i'd say that was rather harmless and nothing at all to have been anxious about
31:00 <Nothing\> wish i'd known that beforehand
31:41 <Nothing\> still shakey, despite anxiety meds, but it'll pass and i'll be fine
31:42 <Ampera> What did he want?
32:01 <Nothing\> just an update on my info, home address, new tattoos, changes in appearance, new photos
32:09 <Ampera> alright
32:20 <Nothing\> apparently i've gotta go in every year to do that until 2030
32:55 <Nothing\> dunno why they'd have a detective do that though. It seems like a waste of resources considering anyone coulda done that
33:11 <Nothing\> but according to my mom he was in on my case, so maybe that's why
33:16 <Nothing\> anyways enough of that
33:23 <Nothing\> how are you Ampera?
33:30 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3<3<#
34:07 <Ampera> alright, was just monitoring my biltong
34:14 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449968711789445127/803691320278253648/20210126_132159.jpg
34:52 <Nothing\> mmm that looks tasty
35:09 <Nothing\> you got a slow cooker? those look like they'd make some great babies with a slow cooker
35:09 <Ampera> not done yet, gonna leave it in there for about another 36 hours
35:16 <Nothing\> ah there ya go
35:16 <steve30> my right foot feels a bit sore
35:17 <Ampera> what
35:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, a crock pot?
35:36 <Ampera> you're not supposed to cook biltong
35:41 <Ampera> it's dry cured
35:44 <Nothing\> ah
35:47 <Nothing\> i did not know that
35:49 <Ampera> it'd be like slow cooking jerky
35:53 <Nothing\> it looks so tender in that picture
35:57 <Ampera> it's not
35:59 <Nothing\> like it'd just fall apart in your mouth
35:59 <Ampera> it's dry
36:14 <Ampera> if anything it'd be incredibly tough
36:28 <Ampera> if you took a bit out of it you'd probably leave a few teeth in it
36:34 <Ampera> *bite
36:48 <Nothing\> it's a shame, cuz i only have 9 molars left in my whole mouth, so i can't chew jerky anymore
36:51 <Nothing\> or fresh veg
36:59 <Ampera> You might like this, as it's cut very very thin
37:01 <Ampera> like shaving thin
37:13 <Nothing\> now that sounds more up my alley
37:17 <Ampera> so while it's chewy, it's very thin, and also cut against the grain
37:39 <Nothing\> i can't chew hard things or things that break up into smaller pieces like nuts, or hard things
37:46 <Ampera> so that means you don't have to chew through the grain of the meat
37:53 <Nothing\> it really sucks cuz that throws out a lot of good food i like
38:48 <Ampera> I'd be willing to send you some, but not this batch
39:14 <Nothing\> let's see on the left side i have 1 molar on the bottom and 3 on top and on the right side i have 3 on bottom and 3 on top
39:19 <Ampera> I'm only letting myself and maybe close family eat this batch, as it's the first time I've ever attempted it, and I don't have enough confidence to risk the liability
39:25 <Nothing\> hrm musta missed one of the first time
39:39 <Nothing\> but my point is i have like 1/4 the chewing surface area of a normal mouth
40:03 <Ampera> the future batches will be done with a known drying time, and will be cured with saltpeter
40:13 <Nothing\> saltpeter you say
40:23 <Ampera> saltpeter, potassium nitrate
40:28 <Nothing\> where'd you get that? just a meat shop or something? or some place online
40:32 <Nothing\> aye, i'm familiar
40:40 <Nothing\> i've always wanted some
40:54 <Ampera> From The Craft Butchers' Pantry
40:56 <Ampera> it's food grade
41:01 <Nothing\> ah nice
41:52 <Ampera> I also intend to try some other flavors too, such as worcestershire sauce, nutmeg, clove, some other things
41:58 <Ampera> some different sorts of vinegar
42:08 <Ampera> this is just a very basic recipe, it's salt, pepper, malt vinegar, and ground coriander
42:22 <Nothing\> right on
42:28 <Ampera> the meat is beef eye of round
43:05 <Ampera> It's actually been getting a very unique purple color, which is what I expected, but it'
43:08 <Ampera> s really unique to see
43:27 <Nothing\> anyways i should get to making some lunch. This conversation isn't exactly quelling my apetite lol
43:32 <Nothing\> huh that's pretty neat
43:39 <Nothing\> purple beef
43:40 <Ampera> Alright, have a good day. I'll probably go eat something soon
43:45 <Ampera> because I was intending to go running
43:49 <Ampera> but it's snowing, so I guess I won't
43:58 <Ampera> Nothing\, when I cure it with saltpeter it will keep a redder color
44:04 <Nothing\> I WILL NOT EAT YOUR FEET AND BEEF I WOULD NOT EAT THEM SAM THE QUEEF
44:05 <Ampera> more similar to a prosciutto or salami
44:12 <Ampera> ok
44:52 <Nothing\> I WOULD NOT EAT THEM ON A HILL, I WOULD NOT EAT THEM AFTER A KILL, I WOULD NOT EAT THEM SAM THE QUEEF
45:11 <Ampera> ok
45:14 <Nothing\> I think you just gave me idea for a chlidren's book
45:23 <Ampera> "children's"
45:39 <Nothing\> yeah, the successor to sam i am
45:45 <Nothing\> or green eggs and ham, rather
46:05 <Nothing\> only it's "my feet and beef"
46:26 <Nothing\> lol alright time to eat i think
46:27 <Nothing\> ta ta
46:34 * Nothing\ poof
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02:38 * steve30 coffees
09:47 <arch> let me build an UC3843 open loop laboratory test fixture, so i can probe the shit out of it as i please
10:55 * electrohead probes arch
11:24 <arch> owo
14:42 * steve30 probes electrohead 
15:17 * electrohead unprobes himself
29:01 * Ysjoelfir is raving around
29:38 * Ysjoelfir grabs electrohead and decides that he wants to rave as well
34:41 <electrohead> ok let's do it
34:43 <electrohead> lol
36:44 <Ysjoelfir> ok!
36:46 <Ysjoelfir> start the war
36:52 <Ysjoelfir> 'cause we are on the floor
36:56 <Ysjoelfir> it's never seen before
37:00 <Ysjoelfir> army of hardcore!
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38:25 <Ysjoelfir> seems like andre doesn't like scooter
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46:05 <Ysjoelfir> I might be wrong. Maybe Andre does like Scooter after all! What doi you think, electrohead
46:31 <electrohead> ??
46:33 <Andre> nani?
46:52 <Ysjoelfir> I thought we were raving together, mr. head?
47:21 <Andre> Scooter? Is that a request? ( as I'm currently doing an online radio show )
48:50 <Ysjoelfir> Oh nice! Yes, I would like to have Army of Hardcore. And a link to the stream so that I can enjoy it xD
56:12 <Andre> http://radio.blaatschaap.be ( stream is radio.blaatschaap.be:8000/blaatschaap-andre.ogg )
56:28 <Andre> Request wil be played after 22:00 CET (in an hour)
56:35 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
04:59 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder what that song is thats playing right now. sounds like santiano?
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> or maybe dartagnan? hm. whatever it was, I like it :D
08:07 <Andre> dartagnan - sing mir ein lied
08:40 <Ysjoelfir> Hey, second guess was right, not that bad^^
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29:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCg4nn2EzV0 Also not bad xD
34:00 * steve30 curls up on Ysjoelfir's lap
34:09 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve
34:23 * steve30 purrs
35:01 <steve30> I'm trying to put a CPC order together. I don't have the brain power atm for dealing with websites
35:15 * steve30 whacks the internet with a catalogue
35:42 <Ysjoelfir> I like catalogue
35:42 <Ysjoelfir> s
55:52 * steve30 fancies going to bed
57:43 <Ysjoelfir> Andre is playing lots of good songs. I should listen to that more often.
57:51 <TheDude> ahoy
58:23 <Andre> Ysjoelfir, I'll do a show every Tuesday starting at 20:00 CET
58:54 * Ysjoelfir notes that down
59:30 <Ysjoelfir> I alwayst thought you belgian guys only speak french and dutch, but I notice many german songs.
00:33 <Andre> I am Dutch, by the way
00:52 <Andre> I grew up near the Belgian and German border, in Limburg
01:18 <Andre> but back in the my student days, when I came up with the name BlaatSchaap, blaatschaap.nl and blaatschaap.com were both taken
01:31 <Ysjoelfir> Aaaah. I judged by the url^^
01:33 <Andre> Then I was like. Sheep go be (Schaap = sheep)
01:52 <Andre> But there is a part of Belgium that speaks German
02:02 <Ysjoelfir> is it?
03:00 <TheDude> dude
03:04 <TheDude> even I know that :D
04:53 <Ysjoelfir> I only know from that strange german/belgian tripple border thing. even though I was always living within one hour to the borders I somehow never had much to do with belgium - though I love the fries they have. nearly as good as Pommes Spezial from the dutch <3 Especially if you add a Frikandel to that.
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09:53 <rc-IIV> this was also a day
12:49 <Ysjoelfir> was it?
13:01 <Ysjoelfir> also: \o/ Andre
14:00 <rc-IIV> i am getting used to city people not having faces. i think it was just a couple years ago, that they considered banning "masks"
16:43 <Ysjoelfir> Andre, mr. spouse was like "he had so nice, calm music, and then you wish for army of hardcore, seriously!?" XD
17:42 <Andre> gehehehe
17:58 <Ysjoelfir> rc-IIV - we did that actually. but they lifted that ban some time ago again
18:09 <Ysjoelfir> *mrs. spouse I meant xD
18:37 <Ysjoelfir> But well, Unheilig is not the most calm song either, so I think I'm fine here :P
19:11 <Andre> Well.... it is request hour! Come with your requests!
19:27 <rc-IIV> hmmm?
19:41 <Ysjoelfir> lol, mrs. spouse was just like "can I request something as well?"
19:51 <rc-IIV> ate you radio today?
19:56 <rc-IIV> are
20:08 <Ysjoelfir> rc-IIV - Andre has a nice stream running. if you can, try it :) radio.blaatschaap.be:8000/blaatschaap-andre.ogg
20:17 <rc-IIV> oh
20:38 <Ysjoelfir> Andre, mrs. spouse would wish for saltatio mortis - spiel mit dem feuer
21:20 <TheDude> Andre, orden ogan - gunman :)
21:34 <TheDude> let's annoy Ysjoelfir's spouse some more :D
22:36 <rc-IIV> what is this oirish country stuff?
22:40 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D I love you guys^^ also, rc-IIV, can you join from the phone?
22:44 <Ysjoelfir> ah. yes you can. :D
23:04 <TheDude> I'm just listening inside a browser tab
23:13 <rc-IIV> join and join, i can hear it
23:17 <rc-IIV> me too
24:14 <Ysjoelfir> whatever the song is, I love it. I know that it must be some version of Star of the County Down, but I wonder who sang this version.
25:45 <rc-IIV> so I guess i have to ask for gnae their tongues, nihilism tied up and burning. say hi to mrs wifey Ysjoelfir
26:06 <Ysjoelfir> I did and hi back :)
26:38 <Andre> Ysjoelfir, this was a version by 3JS
26:54 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :)
28:54 <rc-IIV> tjis thing does remimd me of something
31:09 <Ysjoelfir> Andre, if you want to annoy everyone, especially rc-IIV and mrs. spouse, you should play "Im Grunewald ist Holzauktion" by Das große Berliner Ballorchester as the last song xD But you might have less listeners than the next time^^
31:50 <rc-IIV> i lke lumber auctions...
34:56 <rc-IIV> i do not habe much problems with proper music, but the pop-country-drinking songs the wife always listen to is horrible. and any other country music, and especially reggae. that makes my brain curl up
35:52 <Ysjoelfir> I read that loud and mrs. spouse was chuckling. I think she agrees with you^^
36:15 <rc-IIV> good wifey
39:19 <Ysjoelfir> Whatever we are listening to now reminds me somehow of mindless self indulgence - shut me up. no idea why. I should listen to that one soon, its... strange but nice. you should try it as well, mr. rc-IIV
39:34 <Ysjoelfir> That was to the previous song though^^
39:57 <rc-IIV> mmm
40:44 <rc-IIV> how many are listenimg to this stream then?
41:15 <Andre> 4 people on the ogg stream, 3 people on the mp3 stream
41:25 <rc-IIV> ok
42:34 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
42:43 <Ysjoelfir> mrs. spouse thanks you Andre^^
46:29 <TheDude> \m/ :)
46:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol
47:26 <rc-IIV> I am sensing some kind of theme to this
47:43 <TheDude> I'm guessing you're probably playing the music video, Andre
47:49 <TheDude> the video is... special :D
48:19 <Andre> I ripped it from youtube with clipgrab, audio only, being played in winamp now
48:59 <Ysjoelfir> TheDude, I have to say that mr. spouse enjoys it, and suggests Andre to accompany this nice song with Hallowed be thy name from Hammerfall^^
49:55 <TheDude> nice :D
52:10 <rc-IIV> Andre: do you do this often?
52:56 <Andre> I've been doing weekly shows since this pandemic started
53:24 <Andre> I used to do this from 2005 to 2009, and when corona started I resurrected by old hobby,
54:17 <rc-IIV> nice
57:05 <TheDude> Andre, I have another one for you
57:22 <TheDude> neelix - 1000 sterne
57:38 <TheDude> use the 3 min 48s version
58:10 <Andre> Neelix? As in, Star Trek Voyager?
58:27 <TheDude> yeah, the guy probably took the name after that character
59:26 <rc-IIV> very nerd
59:39 * Ysjoelfir enjoys the depeche mode song very much
59:57 <TheDude> ditto
00:41 <rc-IIV> me too, but i think people should figure out that they had several other songs also, lol
00:54 <TheDude> Andre, btw, I only hear your voice on the right channel... is that intentional?
01:46 <Andre> TheDude, my mixer is stereo, and my mic is mono... it's more on effect of my equipment
02:33 * TheDude brings out the soldering iron
02:36 <TheDude> :D
03:26 <rc-IIV> one of mr heads diode-pentagrams should sort that
03:34 <Ysjoelfir> rc-IIV - thats true. I like eg. blasphemous rumours from them very much, as well as photographic. I think those two are probably withing the 10 least played from them xD
03:39 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:35 <rc-IIV> Wow they loades me in 6 minutes. must be someone watching them today
05:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol
06:04 <Ysjoelfir> thats roughly.... four times as fast as they managed in the old transport company where I worked
07:03 <rc-IIV> it is 25 minutes less than they usually do
09:07 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
09:31 <Ysjoelfir> Andre, another suggestion: Priest - History in Black
09:43 <TheDude> haha, what I love most about song requests is how genres change abruptly :D
10:08 <TheDude> back in the day, my grandma would love to send song requests for my birthday to a local radio
10:48 <TheDude> they did the song requests and reading of greeting messages on the local radio on sundays
10:53 <Ysjoelfir> Absolutely :D Its nice to see the difference in Mood between the two channels :D Seems like someone in the other channel is a bit sad atm. Send some cheers over to the people there from me :)
11:06 <Ysjoelfir> TheDude, Aww, thats nice :)
11:10 <TheDude> we would eat lunch and listen to the radio, waiting for grandma's song request/birthday wish to come
11:14 <rc-IIV> ok, have fun, i am going in the home-direction. play some joy division
11:33 Quit: rc-IIV ([email protected]) Quit: leaving
11:42 <TheDude> and you'd have some casual pop, perhaps some oberkrainer music
11:43 <Andre> TheDude, same where I grew up, sunday morning, there was this show "postbus 31" on the L1 radio
11:57 <TheDude> and then there would be a Manowar song, because that's what I told my grandma to ask for :D:D:D
12:12 <MrMobodies> Hello
12:12 <TheDude> that shit was so fucking awesome :D
12:17 <TheDude> hi
12:38 <MrMobodies> Just experimented with some distro with Openbox
12:54 <MrMobodies> then I realizsed that is also contaminated with GTK3
13:06 <MrMobodies> but that windowmaker I am pleased about
13:19 <MrMobodies> no warning messages
13:37 <MrMobodies> next to nothing animations
13:50 <MrMobodies> a bit different though but I don't mind
14:15 <MrMobodies> I am looking for something similar to Gparted that will read the file systems on there
14:30 <MrMobodies> It is on Freebsd
15:13 <MrMobodies> I installed some of the file managers and two of them did not have the scroll issue
15:33 <MrMobodies> where it would cycle through other directories when reaching the top
15:44 * Ysjoelfir immagines out local radio back than playing manowar and faily while doing so
16:17 <MrMobodies> local radio... I miss that
16:46 <MrMobodies> last time I tuned in I heard people screaming down the the microphone which ruined my day
16:50 <steve30> eww, GTK3
16:51 <Ysjoelfir> You pronounced it perfect, Andre :)
16:59 <Andre> ^^
18:02 <Andre> Ys and fir make me think, like Swedish, and oe, well... I read it like Dutch.
18:10 <MrMobodies> Ateve30, when looked further I saw that thing installed on the other distros
19:24 * steve30 passes MrMobodies a rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoRzaZsaSLY
19:32 <MrMobodies> so now I am going try and make sure that whatever I install doesn't have GTK3 if it is going to persistently intefere with my concentration and my viewing of things
19:45 <Ysjoelfir> I wanted it to have kind of a nordic touch :) the name was actually created by rolling over my keyboard and then tweaking it to make it more readable and nicer. and for whatever reason it reminded me of Yggdrasil, so I kept that.
20:43 <MrMobodies> aaaah so the scrollbar thing is a GTK3 thing
20:53 <MrMobodies> from the video link
23:21 <MrMobodies> actually it is when I use the mousewheel reaching top of the results and it cycles to the other directory.
24:08 <Ysjoelfir> Andre, thanks for hosting this nice stream, we enjoyed it very much!
24:27 <Andre> Thanks for listening
24:30 <TheDude> Andre, thanks for playing my stuff :)
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24:44 <TheDude> internet radios are fun
25:00 <TheDude> I had a nerd schoolmate back in primary school
25:13 <TheDude> he hosted a bootleg radio as well on the weekends
25:14 <MrMobodies> unfortunately I missed it now I see it: radio.blaatschaap.be:8000/blaatschaap-andre.ogg
25:47 <TheDude> but he was actually afraid that the government radio enforcement agency van would roll up to the house
25:55 <TheDude> because he used to transmit that on FM :D
25:58 <Andre> Next week Tuesday at 20:00 CET I'll be doing a show again
26:03 <Andre> And well... I'm a pirate
26:04 <MrMobodies> Is that some kind of a rock band playing?
26:15 <MrMobodies> I hear guitar strings
26:18 <Ysjoelfir> that should be dragonforce
26:21 <Andre> Now it's an automated playlist
26:43 <TheDude> yeah, herman lee is one of the rare people that can actually pull that shit off on the guitar
26:55 <TheDude> li*
29:37 <MrMobodies> I never heard of them before but they sing nicely and can play the guitar
30:17 <Andre> I'm off to bed. g'night
30:20 <MrMobodies> they seem to handle the instruments nice too
31:07 <TheDude> \o
33:28 <coppice> Herman Li seems to have created an entire career from one solo
35:17 <TheDude> are you talking about through the fire and flames?
35:44 <coppice> of course
35:56 <TheDude> I think calling that one solo is a bit of an understatement, but it's essentially exactly what it is
35:58 <TheDude> the whole song :D
36:40 <TheDude> but yeah, they gained a lot of fame because of that one
36:54 <TheDude> because of how ridiculously hard it is to perform
36:59 <TheDude> but they do have other songs, you know :D
38:19 <coppice> like being babymetal's backing band? :)
38:53 <TheDude> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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32:46 <rust_collector> aaand, re-morning
34:51 <Halcyon> Morning
35:09 <T3sl4> evening
36:42 <rust_collector> ok
36:54 <arch> butts
37:20 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, are you sure you want to avoid gtk3? sure you can, but... eeh
37:42 <rust_collector> time for breakfast! WOOHOO!
39:04 <rust_collector> I think even xfce is moving to gtk3 now
52:10 <MrMobodies> Hello
52:29 <MrMobodies> oh it has I came across it
52:39 <MrMobodies> where it was dimming the inactive windows
52:52 <MrMobodies> and the text
53:02 <MrMobodies> which I found incredibly annoying and inconvenient
53:25 <MrMobodies> and I found this like with people complaining about it
53:28 <rust_collector> well, it will only do what it is told to do... so someone must have told it to
54:04 <rust_collector> so, what do you plan on using? fltk, qt?
54:08 <rust_collector> nothing?
54:10 <MrMobodies> https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=13140
54:29 <MrMobodies> well Ampera help me with that Windowmaker
54:33 <MrMobodies> and that is a start
55:00 <MrMobodies> different but doesn't make my blood level go up with the pressure in my head due to the frustration
55:15 <MrMobodies> and the PCMANFM file manager looks good too
55:23 <rust_collector> sure, but that is a window manager. it should not have much to do with gtk things
55:38 <rust_collector> pcmanfm, did he start working on that again?
55:39 <MrMobodies> aah qt
56:00 <MrMobodies> it was available on the catalogue
56:09 <MrMobodies> also another thng
56:48 <MrMobodies> when I scroll up, on a file manager, like Caja, go up further and switches to the next directory which is not what i want
56:56 <MrMobodies> not setting for that
57:24 <MrMobodies> I'll install if with this Windowmaker and see if it does the same (whether it is connected to GTK3 or not)
58:00 <MrMobodies> thanks for suggestiong FLTK and QT
58:05 <MrMobodies> I;ll note that
58:48 <rust_collector> I am not suggesting anything, i am asking if you have thought about what you want to replace gtk3 with, or if you will stay away from any such things
58:54 <MrMobodies> also I tried the last edition of TrueBSD and it does the same with the dimming
59:10 <MrMobodies> well I see I can still get GTK2
59:17 <MrMobodies> and see what works with that
00:22 <rust_collector> I figure it mostly depends on what programs you want to use, and what toolkit they use. some times, you can choose, but you might have to compile it yourself, or somehting like that
00:29 <MrMobodies> if it is going to interfere and do stuff like dim things such as inactive stuff that I may be looking at and i can't see mthem well
01:28 <MrMobodies> I read somewhere when I was digging down on the issue a developer stating "the features are frozen" if you want it changed compile it yourself.
02:32 <MrMobodies> I also read that they were complaining inthe past about other people's themes breaking the look of their "apps" as to why they wanted to stop themes
02:54 <MrMobodies> so they made their own and it does things I don't want it to do.
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06:08 <MrMobodies> It's called Backdrop
06:09 <MrMobodies> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/777
06:49 <MrMobodies> "Emmanuele Bassi @ebassi said: First of all, GTK+ 3.x is feature frozen, which means no new settings/features, especially to control themes."
09:29 <rust_collector> well, you COULD just use a theme that does not annoy you...
10:08 <MrMobodies> If I come across one I'd surely find a way to install and test it
10:14 <MrMobodies> if it solves that issue
10:55 <rust_collector> that stuff seems to be a "feature" in gtk3, but still, if no one asks it to do use that feature, it won't
12:13 <MrMobodies> one of the two may have to happen, either I recompile it and remove the backdrop component (never compiled before) or find another theme that doesn't do that
12:22 <rust_collector> but, Imo, anything that comes from gnome should die
13:04 <MrMobodies> Any feature like that I believe should have an off switch, should be optional, not everyone needs or wants parts of the work space dimmed.
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13:51 <MrMobodies> I remember Gnome in Ubuntu in 2009, 2010,
14:02 <rust_collector> it does look like it has a switch, it is just that the switch is wired backwards, when you are using it with someone elses extra stuff
14:26 <MrMobodies> and the last one I think took me a long time to get right in 2014. There was a thing I think called a fallback to Gnome 2 or so
14:42 <MrMobodies> I use was using it as a fileserver
15:01 <MrMobodies> it worked fine for a couple of years
15:41 <MrMobodies> but I don't remember loosing my temper like i do now because those thing I don't remember there to annoy me.
15:59 <rust_collector> I think I agree with ampera, forget the desktop, use a window manager. something that uses no such weird things, just Xlib,
16:19 <MrMobodies> okay xlib I';lk note that too
16:50 <MrMobodies> Thank you for suggesting stuff
17:13 <rust_collector> but yes, it really does depend on what programs you want to use, and if they will work without gtk, and things
18:24 <rust_collector> if you are using it as a server, you should not really need to have X at all, imo. but even if you do use X, you can still use console things, like file managers, and such
18:45 <rust_collector> no gtk3 if you don't have X
21:02 <MrMobodies> I plam on using a copy for mounting file systems
21:23 <rust_collector> yes
21:35 <MrMobodies> so I can bypass setting permissions on windows 10 when I want to remove stuff
21:47 <MrMobodies> and also mount the Pfsense drive when I want edit files
21:52 <MrMobodies> things like that
22:01 <rust_collector> you do not really need a desktop environment to mount file systems...
22:12 <MrMobodies> it is the file manager I need
22:23 <MrMobodies> and i need many of them opened at once
22:29 <rust_collector> ok. if you want to use a file manager, that is fine
22:30 <MrMobodies> so I can copy stuff quickly
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24:54 <rust_collector> there are many file managers out there. some do more, some do less, some work without X. have you tried commandline file management?
25:12 <rust_collector> it is pretty quick, if you have some idea of where your stuff is
26:53 <MrMobodies> is that a package, I can't find it on Freebsd unless you mean file copying from the command line
27:19 <rust_collector> from command lne, yes
27:28 <MrMobodies> of course
27:50 <MrMobodies> BUT I find it easier, quicker and I can concentrate on looking at endless files and directories
28:11 <MrMobodies> using the file manages
28:47 <MrMobodies> when I want to compare stuff from different drives I find it easy doing it that way where i can have two file managers opened
29:18 <rust_collector> easy, yes
30:19 <rust_collector> so i guess the important thing for you is drag and drop between windows?
31:32 <MrMobodies> yep
31:51 <MrMobodies> I do that all the time
32:36 <MrMobodies> when I edit something with lots of text in, I just copy and paste it first just incase I make a mistake somewhere and don't see it
33:30 <rust_collector> have you tried rox-filer? it is a little bit different looking than most file managers, but it is more or less just a window with file icons, you can drag and drop, between windows, or to and from the terminal, which I guess is most of what you would use a file manager for
34:30 <rust_collector> I quite like it, but it is sort of weird in a way. but if it works for you, then... why not
35:28 <rust_collector> I am not sure if you can get it for the bsds, but I would think so
35:42 <MrMobodies> that looks alright
35:42 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROX_Desktop#/media/File:Rox-desktop-2004.png
35:46 <MrMobodies> ooh its from 2004
36:06 <rust_collector> well, forget about the desktop. you needed a file manager
38:08 <MrMobodies> well I have tried a few, caja (mousewheel issue), Thunar (okay) and PCMANFM (more suited)
38:36 <MrMobodies> and PCMANFM search which is very basic in showing details but does the job
38:54 <rust_collector> at least you can split the window in pcmanfm, if I remember correctly. Unlike thunar
38:57 <MrMobodies> I am missing fields like date created which would be very handy
39:01 <MrMobodies> oh yes
39:07 <MrMobodies> it has button on the left
39:12 <MrMobodies> which opens a seperate tab
39:37 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure you can have it display dates, if you want that
39:38 <MrMobodies> I don't normal like tabs for that but in this case it works in my favour when I need it for something
39:56 <MrMobodies> there is "date modified" but "date created" would be nice
40:04 <rust_collector> oh
40:07 <MrMobodies> unless it is labelled under somethong different such as date
40:21 <rust_collector> not sure.
43:19 <MrMobodies> haaahhah when installing the KDE I see QT5 files in there
43:23 <rust_collector> yes
43:33 <rust_collector> all of kde is qt5
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43:53 <rust_collector> what is funny about that?
44:48 <rust_collector> gnome has gtk, kde uses qt
46:32 <MrMobodies> oh no I mean ah
46:36 <MrMobodies> mistyped
46:46 <MrMobodies> there is a Plasma thing too
46:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/UVTBSVag.jpg
46:51 <MrMobodies> that does the dimming
47:09 <rust_collector> plasma thing is the desktop environment, iIrc
47:16 <MrMobodies> as soon as something says "Polished" I smell bullsh*t.
47:48 <MrMobodies> I mean the description in the picture
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48:51 <MrMobodies> joke: well it is true they did polish inactive tab.
53:55 <rust_collector> you can change settings of almost anything in kde. At least on this install, there is no dimming, when I focus a different window
54:36 <rust_collector> but installing all of kde, is a lot of stuff, if you just want a file manager
55:55 <MrMobodies> well I am in my experimental phases
56:24 <MrMobodies> if I find something I like, I'll make set it up in a certain way and make a template out of it
56:33 <rust_collector> I am pretty happy with kde on this thing. it feels like a less annoying windows install
57:16 <MrMobodies> well that sounds good news to me
57:32 <MrMobodies> the first time I came across KDE was in 2002 I think
57:39 <rust_collector> I use almost nothing of it
57:55 <MrMobodies> it was at some computer shop in Chesterfield for businesses only
58:12 <MrMobodies> someone brought in this old AT case
58:35 <MrMobodies> the owner like the at case
58:41 <MrMobodies> but it kept on bending the motherboards
59:14 <rust_collector> yes, but it has changed a lot. in 2002, I am not sure what version it was. but they went up to kde3.5, which was an ok desktop, then they changed all the stuff, and made kde4, up to 4.4, I think, and that was imo unusable. kde5(plasma) seems to be much more sane
59:55 <MrMobodies> I am testing it now
59:59 <MrMobodies> waiting for it to install
00:36 <MrMobodies> another 341 out of 669 files to go
01:33 <MrMobodies> I remembered in 2009 or 2010
01:34 <rust_collector> if you want one more thing to try, install fluxbox on something. just start it with exec fluxbox in your .xinitrc, and startx to start it
01:43 <MrMobodies> fluxbox okay
02:27 <MrMobodies> there was a package called wine
02:40 <rust_collector> it is a window manager, similar-ish to openbox, in a way, but it has its own bar, and menus, and it uses normal text files, and not the xml stuff openbox uses
02:41 <MrMobodies> on Gnome 2 and it ran Unrealtournament very well
02:59 <rust_collector> wine is still around, and seems to be getting better
03:07 <MrMobodies> I noted that down and going to get a template prepared
03:33 <MrMobodies> I was surprised how stable it was and it worked well with Opengl
04:06 <rust_collector> it seems to work well, when it works, but some things just do not like running in a fake windows install
04:39 <Halcyon> Oh yay! We no longer have to wear masks at the shops from Friday
04:55 <MrMobodies> what country you from?
05:00 <rust_collector> oh yay! we never had to
05:32 <rust_collector> he is australian
05:38 <MrMobodies> I mean Halycon
05:40 <MrMobodies> oh
05:49 <MrMobodies> oh Dave's video in the shopping malls
05:53 <MrMobodies> they have been working hard
06:03 <MrMobodies> and keeping their distances
06:18 <rust_collector> working hard... australians... sounds weird to me
06:58 <MrMobodies> I thought Dave Jones was a hard worker
07:08 <rust_collector> i don't know the guy
07:21 <rust_collector> I am sure he has enough to do
07:22 <MrMobodies> Eevblog Dave Jones
08:02 <rust_collector> yes, I know who he is, but I do not stalk him, and see if he is working or not
08:12 <MrMobodies> he seems to put alot of effort and details into his videos
08:25 <MrMobodies> well I assumed he worked all the time
09:06 <MrMobodies> with all the stuff on his desks and that
09:48 <MrMobodies> oops i mean the broken stuff
10:28 <rust_collector> I have a lot of crap on my desk, that does not help much, lol. I am sure he spends a lot of time working.
11:48 <Halcyon> MrMobodies: Australia
12:00 <Halcyon> They made masks mandatory in parts of Sydney for the past few weeks
12:32 <MrMobodies> in England the infection rate is only just starting to fall
12:41 <MrMobodies> but masks still reqired in the shops
12:56 <rust_collector> well, it will go back up again, don't worry
13:29 <Halcyon> Yeh they brought in masks for shopping after a small cluster was discovered
13:44 <Halcyon> They didn't want it going nuts like what happened in Victoria
13:55 <MrMobodies> cluster?
14:02 <MrMobodies> ah cluster of people
14:38 <rust_collector> i am pretty impressed with the way you managed to burn all of victoria, and keep the journalists bust with other things.
14:44 <rust_collector> good job
14:45 <coppice> Good British innovation in COVID variants caused the infection rate to soar in December. Now its level off, because the British government always does its best to crush innovation
14:52 <Halcyon> We only had 2 cases in this state and both were from overseas travellers in quarantine
15:18 <Halcyon> Currently 39 known active cases in the state and those people are all quarantined as well
15:50 <coppice> Britain reached a milestone today. 100k COVID deaths.
16:04 <Halcyon> Oh congrats :P
16:10 <rust_collector> where did it come from, in victoria? When I think of going to australia, I think of nsw
16:25 <MrMobodies> I have yet to catch it again
16:52 <MrMobodies> well I believe I caught in January last year
16:59 <MrMobodies> before it was recognised
17:09 <MrMobodies> 6 weeks of hell
17:16 <MrMobodies> with constant pressure build up in my head
17:17 <Halcyon> Victoria happened because the government were slow to respond to increasing cases and because people were being fuckwits and ignoring the rules
17:36 <rust_collector> well, yes, but it had to come from somewhere
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22:23 <Halcyon> I hate what society has become, apparently being an "Insta model" is a thing
22:34 <Halcyon> How does someone who just posts photos of themselves qualify as a model
23:22 <Halcyon> It's almost as bad as being an "Influencer"
23:23 <rust_collector> how does a bunch of people qualify as a society?
24:10 <arch> we live in a society
26:37 <coppice> The overused word I loath the most is "community"
27:16 <MrMobodies> I have noticed a few overused words over the years
27:30 <rust_collector> i have seen stuff about those, in old documentaries.
27:46 <MrMobodies> Brexit right up until covid, now covid
28:14 <MrMobodies> there was a point where mostly every sentence had the word "brexit" inthere when watching the news
28:33 <MrMobodies> but that has passed
28:48 <arch> until you brought it up...ironic
29:44 <MrMobodies> well now it's covid
29:53 <coppice> covid is the most bigoted scum in history. Its racist, sexist, classist, homophobic, and doesn't even like our grannies
29:56 <MrMobodies> but now as much used as the other though
30:11 <Halcyon> Heh
30:18 <MrMobodies> I mean covid
30:32 <MrMobodies> I don't see it as much as in every sentence
30:43 <MrMobodies> like the brexit word
30:57 <rust_collector> I really like it when there has been some kind of disaster, as I can hear about something else for a day or two
31:07 <MrMobodies> I think it's peak was in 2018 to mid 2020
32:38 <MrMobodies> Insta models Instagram models
32:52 <arch> instahoe
33:24 <rust_collector> for all the people who like pictures of excavators
33:28 <MrMobodies> https://www.google.com/search?q=insta+model&source=lnms&tbm=isch
33:49 <MrMobodies> women but no men
34:06 <MrMobodies> and some of them do that thing where they wriggle? their bums around and that
34:07 <arch> no shit. google gives people what they want
34:26 <MrMobodies> it reminds me of when I for mt first digital tv tuner in 2010
34:32 <MrMobodies> there were these channels
34:56 <arch> if i wanted "male models in underwear", that's exactly what i would put inside google, but i will not, because i'm not gay *glances around*
34:58 <MrMobodies> that id see when auto tuning
35:16 <MrMobodies> and they'd be these women half clothed also wriggiing their bums around but all night
35:31 <MrMobodies> and for £1.50 phone a minute I could talk to then, what a cheek
35:36 <arch> hahah
35:56 <coppice> the ones who wiggle their bums are the backhoes
35:56 <MrMobodies> tey that in public, would i pay to talk to someone because they wriggled their backside to me
36:03 <arch> now, they've outsourced that so you can talk to "Sally" all the way out in India
36:36 <Halcyon> :P
36:58 <MrMobodies> someone laughed at me for that
37:04 <MrMobodies> and told me I needed to do so more research
37:11 <rust_collector> ELLO! yes mr sir, I wery happy to taLk too yoo
37:26 <MrMobodies> so I did and found it started froma program called "the games network"
37:30 <MrMobodies> on channel 4
37:53 <MrMobodies> it wasn't popular but they had in there and that was popular for some reason so they gave them a channel to do their wriggling
38:16 <MrMobodies> but for that to happen there must be a large enough audience
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41:06 <MrMobodies> I don't use my tv tuner anymore, apart from the glimps of the news in the lounge
41:52 <rust_collector> I don't use my tv any more. well, I sort of do, it keeps the wife over there in the livingroom
41:53 <MrMobodies> I only use to see 4 channels until 2 of them put their station logos on the picture
42:43 <Halcyon> I actually don't mind the Odysee interface, very clean and simple
43:05 <MrMobodies> BBC channel logos "Dogs" digital on screen graphics are part of the digital revolution.... not anymore not with online videos
43:07 <rust_collector> we had 3 channels here, but that is just because we live sort of close to sweden, so we got sweden 1 and 2
43:14 <MrMobodies> Oh yes
43:23 <MrMobodies> I was pleased about that too
43:33 <MrMobodies> Odyseey
43:46 <MrMobodies> I did hide a few things but not as annoying as the youtube player
44:24 <rust_collector> odysee looks ok, but it seems like their speed is a bit up and down. some days, I can not use it, some days it is fine
44:54 <rust_collector> trying to find anything there was annoying
45:10 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/4Rwr4E9.jpg
45:21 <MrMobodies> It does have ONE loading spinner but that's it
45:23 <coppice> rust_collector: its probably another victim of rapid expansion in the last few weeks
45:26 <MrMobodies> don't often come on
45:56 <rust_collector> coppice, but i htink it has been working better in the last weeks, so that has to be a good thing
46:02 <MrMobodies> I can pause and play/seek and no play pause animations popping out
46:07 <MrMobodies> in the centre
46:27 <MrMobodies> I think I hid a few placeholders and it's all good
46:51 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Yeh that's the decentalised nature of it
47:02 <Halcyon> Seems to work OK for me most of the time, very little buffer time at the moment
47:28 <MrMobodies> also it doesn't put dimming overlay stuff when it is paused so it's really good
47:45 <MrMobodies> no gradients on the edges
48:01 <Halcyon> And no ads (not that I have Youtube ads on my desktop PC)
48:18 <rust_collector> the thing that annoyed me, was that I could not just pause it, and let it load, because that just stopped it completely. But I think it will be ok after some time
48:37 <MrMobodies> if Youtube bans Dave Jones, I'll stop paying for Premium and donate it to them instead
49:05 <MrMobodies> but he needs 3 strikes first
49:20 <Halcyon> Which wouldn't be too hard to get
49:51 <MrMobodies> I remembered I posted a comment asking about his NAS thing during the move or something like that
49:56 <MrMobodies> and i found a video of him showing it
50:13 <MrMobodies> then he got in trouble for that and it was an old video
50:28 <MrMobodies> so I don't know when I saw the video a bot picked up on it
51:00 <MrMobodies> I didn't know it was against their terms and conditions to show people how to download youtube videos which I think was the issue
51:24 <Halcyon> Well, largely the reason why youtube-dl is "illegal"
51:28 <Halcyon> Which is a load of shit
51:28 <MrMobodies> and he couldn't stream for a month or so
52:20 <MrMobodies> well there is palemoon which ha sa downloader that seems to do it well
52:31 <coppice> sounds like a serious urinary infection
53:06 <MrMobodies> ohnonop
53:35 <MrMobodies> that was DownloadThemAll and I took it from Firefox 21 and it just happened to work
56:04 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/Ky2Letag.jpg
56:23 <MrMobodies> and FlashGot
56:54 <MrMobodies> actually it gets the file sizes wrong
57:00 <MrMobodies> but it download the whole thing
00:10 <MrMobodies> yep it still works
00:20 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/EKIBYNUg.jpg
00:44 <MrMobodies> and it is the correctly file size
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10:44 <rust_collector> time for more breakfast
11:44 <Halcyon> What's for brekky?
12:37 <MrMobodies> I like scrambled eggs in a bit of bread every morning
12:47 <Halcyon> Yummy
12:48 <rust_collector> i had spaghetti and meatballs, and now I have grilled cheese on bread, with half a burger meat in the middle, then a second layer of cheese
12:49 <MrMobodies> my mum makes it for me
13:01 <Halcyon> MrMobodies, seriously?
13:06 <Halcyon> Wait... how old are you?
13:10 <MrMobodies> yes
13:11 <rust_collector> 75
13:22 <MrMobodies> no I am 37
13:24 <Halcyon> I meant him, not his mother :P
13:28 <MrMobodies> oh
13:32 <rust_collector> close enough
13:44 <Halcyon> Are you not much of a cook MrMobodies ?
13:56 <MrMobodies> my cooking skill are poor
14:02 <MrMobodies> my mum does all the cooking
14:04 <Halcyon> Aw
14:14 <Halcyon> I love cooking, it's my favourite
14:18 <MrMobodies> and she tries to cook healthily
14:25 <Halcyon> Eggs are healthy
14:27 <MrMobodies> with the lowest amounts of sugar and fat
14:47 <MrMobodies> I still live at home with my parents
15:02 <Halcyon> I think I would go mental if I lived with my mum
15:08 <Halcyon> My dad is pretty good, he is chill
15:08 <MrMobodies> I can't afford to move out, I could but I don't want to have to claim
15:22 <MrMobodies> well I have my own parts of the house
15:37 <MrMobodies> we moved to this large the house with a workshop
15:42 <Halcyon> Oh nice
15:45 <rust_collector> and a food lift, down to the kitchen
15:47 <MrMobodies> before I had just the attic and my old bedroom
15:50 <Halcyon> Having your own quarters helps a lot
16:00 <MrMobodies> I can make as much noise as I want
16:09 <MrMobodies> in the other house I couldn't even close a draw
16:12 <MrMobodies> without waking them up
16:19 <Halcyon> I grew up in a two-storey, 7 bedroom house, but it still felt like my mother was always hovering over me
16:20 <MrMobodies> so thingsa got left on the ground
16:46 <MrMobodies> did you have cement floors in your 7 bedroom house?
16:55 <rust_collector> I guess I sort of live home still, as it is moms house, that I rent. but at least she moved out
16:55 <Halcyon> No, wood
16:58 <MrMobodies> I know some properties do and a lot better
16:59 <MrMobodies> oh
17:11 <Halcyon> Well the slab is cement, but wood floors on top of that
17:21 <Halcyon> Upstairs was wooden beams
17:28 <MrMobodies> I went to a school 200 miles way and that had cement floors
17:38 <MrMobodies> and the upstairs too
17:53 <Halcyon> Yeh they would have been those pre-fabbed concerete walls and floors?
18:03 <Halcyon> Very common in commercial buildings
18:11 <MrMobodies> I ccould still hear the people upstairs but not their foot steps
18:17 <MrMobodies> which was nice
19:17 <MrMobodies> there two buildings, the main school and a holiday resort they converted that also had cement flooring
19:32 <MrMobodies> no creeking and it felt homely
20:11 <MrMobodies> with where i live now, the workshop is an extension on the size of thre house which also has bedrooms above
20:33 <MrMobodies> with the cavity wall in the muddle I don't here that loud music my dad plays anymore
20:56 <MrMobodies> so it was a good move I think
21:19 <MrMobodies> there are some things on my walls
21:27 <MrMobodies> strange looking things that I never seen before
21:33 <rust_collector> I have a "silent" room downstairs. it is pretty...quiet
22:59 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/3wnInv5
23:12 <MrMobodies> they are hollow when I tap them
23:47 <rust_collector> I am 13% sure it is space for the roof beams
24:21 <MrMobodies> the extension's roof is a bit lower than the rest of house
24:30 <MrMobodies> maybe it had to come down a bit and they put that cover on it
28:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Some team of engineers (and others) actually held a meeting and came to the conclusion that this was the best solution. I wonder how many engineers bit their tounge... :Which was quoting: Tube Time: cursed connector. it's like PS/2 keyboard connecter but the pins all migrated randomly to one side. https://t.co/pKGnebGPGc
29:04 <Halcyon> Heh: https://youtu.be/39fC1EzAhbQ?t=387
29:09 <rust_collector> I htink I asked about this before, but do you have a water tank in the attic?
29:16 <Halcyon> That would scare the crap out of you
32:06 <rust_collector> you should wake up
37:03 <MrMobodies> I have some enormous ones that the previous occupants put in
37:16 <MrMobodies> one for the hot water and the other for the central heating
37:31 <MrMobodies> a date code 2015 but guess what they didn't put a cover over it
37:53 <MrMobodies> so we had pump it out I still have to find one or even building something
38:22 <MrMobodies> there was bits and sand in the water when I first moved
38:23 <rust_collector> but it is a pressure tank, not a water "bucket"?
38:33 <MrMobodies> there is one a red thing in the middle
38:35 <rust_collector> oh
38:39 <MrMobodies> I'll some pictures tomorrow
39:12 <MrMobodies> rather than hook my electric shower too the tank with a limit/regulator they connected it to the tap feeding the tank
39:22 <MrMobodies> using plastic pipes as well
39:38 <rust_collector> I think I saw something about english houses having ie a "bucket" of water in the attic, sort of like the tank on a toilet
39:58 <MrMobodies> oh yes the long flush type cisterns
40:13 <MrMobodies> that were high up onth ewall
40:20 <rust_collector> yes, but for the whole house
40:54 <MrMobodies> https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fc8.alamy.com%2Fcomp%2FGME84F%2Fold-fashioned-toilet-cistern-swindon-railway-works-england-GME84F.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
40:57 <MrMobodies> oh
41:25 <MrMobodies> maybe a system I have to discover
42:03 <rust_collector> I thought it was a weird idea, but I believe it was used a bit in england, probably not any more
51:30 <MrMobodies> I don't know if it has anything to do with this
51:30 <MrMobodies> https://www.dkfindout.com/us/science/amazing-inventions/flushing-toilet/
56:45 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/uBvWviug.jpg
56:52 <MrMobodies> Okay... that looks promising
57:19 <MrMobodies> a few little niggles but not too bad
57:55 <MrMobodies> I think that is KDE5
58:24 <rust_collector> no, it was plasma desktop, which yes, is "kde5"
59:19 <MrMobodies> aah plasma that I put in the .Xinitrc
59:47 <rust_collector> do you need an .Xinitrc in that?
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02:40 <MrMobodies> well it wouldn't start so found this
02:41 <MrMobodies> exec ck-launch-session startplasma-x11
02:51 <MrMobodies> https://www.unix.com/unix-for-beginners-questions-and-answers/283891-how-can-i-start-kde5-netbsd9.html
02:53 <MrMobodies> and it worked
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03:21 <rust_collector> ok, do you have a login manager thing?. if you only use startx, then yes, you need it
03:34 <MrMobodies> yep
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03:48 <MrMobodies> just went to the greeter
05:12 <rust_collector> oh well, whatever works
05:22 <MrMobodies> I think I found what I am looking for that and the WindowMaker
05:43 <MrMobodies> I had difficulties in the past trying to get that KDE installed but seems like it was worth it
05:53 <MrMobodies> thanks to all of you for helping
07:08 <MrMobodies> I sometimes smile when things go well like right now and it's not often that happens.
07:11 <rust_collector> kde or windowmaker. that is a bit... here and there, lol
07:25 <MrMobodies> I am going to try and run both
07:33 <MrMobodies> on separate virtual machines
07:47 <MrMobodies> each will have purpose
08:01 <MrMobodies> depends on what I can do with them and i am sure
08:14 <MrMobodies> I like the calculator the comes with Windowmaker
08:32 <MrMobodies> reminds me a bit like Derive from Texas Instruments
08:52 <rust_collector> windowmaker comes with a calculator?
08:54 <MrMobodies> nice plain window full of room for calculations
12:56 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/c0eOtrq
13:23 <rust_collector> oh, bc
13:27 <MrMobodies> Hey, if you want to have a play around with it, I can connect you to the KVM unit
13:37 <MrMobodies> can take 2 remote users
14:06 <rust_collector> meh. I am almost on my way to bed. If I manage to wake up tomorrow, maybe?
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14:35 <MrMobodies> Its a HP af601a and they still have the viewer which has a built in version on Java runtime
15:29 <rust_collector> https://linux.die.net/man/1/bc
16:50 <rust_collector> do you have xeyes installed?
20:35 <MrMobodies> nope I'll take a look
20:36 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/0mr3iKL.jpg
20:45 <MrMobodies> I have two af601's
21:08 <MrMobodies> some vga spliiters and three remote donglkes so three people can control it
22:40 <MrMobodies> yep installed
22:49 <MrMobodies> only 10kb in sixe of xeyes
23:00 <rust_collector> have you tried it?
24:16 <MrMobodies> A remote mouse thing?
24:18 <MrMobodies> I haven't yet
24:33 <rust_collector> no, well, sort of, maybe
24:42 <MrMobodies> no
24:52 <rust_collector> just type xeyes in a terminal, and it is up and running
25:07 <rust_collector> then just ctrl-c to kill it
25:29 <MrMobodies> okay a box with eyes that follow the cursor
25:49 <rust_collector> this is real unix fun, right?
25:58 <MrMobodies> yes
26:09 <rust_collector> oh
26:10 <MrMobodies> you are showing me things and they work
27:21 <MrMobodies> nobody has ever shown me things like this not in about 20 years I had to find out myself and struggle
27:34 <rust_collector> well, sure. I just think xeyes is one of the least useful things, but it is for some reason "always" installed when you install x
27:58 <rust_collector> you also have xcalc, and xclock
28:00 <MrMobodies> aah so it was suppose to be including with Xorg
28:06 <rust_collector> yes
28:38 <rust_collector> if you install x, you tend to get twm, window manager, and some little things like that
29:21 <rust_collector> maybe you should try twm, it is a bit weird to get into, but it is not a bad window manager. it has almost no features
29:49 <rust_collector> not hard to get into, but hard to get used to, if you are used to normal things
31:15 <MrMobodies> yes some things are not in the menu
31:24 <MrMobodies> but can be launched from the command line like xterm
32:09 <rust_collector> I think it usually has a key binding. maybe alt+enter, or something like that
33:23 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/QyrRYDHg.jpg
33:40 <MrMobodies> alt enter goes to full screen for the console
33:49 <rust_collector> ok
34:14 <MrMobodies> going to make some time in rejoice
34:20 <MrMobodies> oops *tea
34:25 <rust_collector> well, I am going to bed. have fun
34:32 <MrMobodies> okay good night
34:40 <MrMobodies> thanks for helping me
35:08 <rust_collector> no problem, I just hope I am not just confusing you
38:47 <MrMobodies> not at all
02:26 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Six digit plates suck https://t.co/D4Gd6aHeS9
18:41 <Halcyon> Hmmm, this is not good: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-3156
58:33 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JxPepmStxw
58:41 <Halcyon> My kind of cooking show
03:23 <hsn> good monring Halcyon and enjoy ur cooking
03:29 <Halcyon> Hey hsn :P
03:35 <hsn> o/
03:45 <hsn> how is u doing all good ?
03:53 <Halcyon> Yeh not too bad, you?
04:33 <hsn> i was little bad now u r not too bad im good
04:41 <Halcyon> Oh?
08:51 <hsn> its somthing i say to everyone in local language
08:58 <hsn> "how r u .. u good? if u good im good"
09:08 <hsn> "how r u .. u good? if u good then im good"
09:52 <hsn> as the "how r u" thingy is sort of greeting that u have to say to ppl :P .. and i dont like formalities a lot so i mix my stuff into it
22:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: ooooh, a space movie I haven't seen: https://t.co/I9SOrVaQF5
30:26 <K> hello bushes
30:26 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
37:13 <Halcyon> Hey K
38:03 <K> (bushes of love)
38:06 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySHDUU2juM
38:22 <Halcyon> I can't stop watching this guys cooking videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KthvXIFhcc
38:25 <Halcyon> He is very talented
11:28 <steve30> hi
26:27 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
26:43 Quit: clarkos ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
33:28 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
35:13 <steve30> What else do I need from CPC before I place an order?
43:30 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Connection closed
43:32 <K> heatshrink
43:34 Quit: pa1983 ([email protected]) Connection closed
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07:19 * steve30 meows at Halcyon 
47:32 <steve30> There. I've ordered a load of stuff from CPC
48:31 <K> what did you order?
52:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Odysee exclusive video: https://t.co/JBDOAY2IVN
17:23 <rust_collector> stuff!
20:37 <K> https://imgur.com/a/tkkhXCd
20:39 <K> imsorywhat
21:04 <K> why does daves odysee page want to load something from sex.com ?
21:19 <rust_collector> it is feeling lonely?
21:32 <K> it is setting itself up for disapointment
21:45 <K> and unrealistic expectations
23:03 <steve30> Mostly audio connectors
25:03 <K> Halcyon, u asleep?
25:08 <K> prolly is
25:29 <K> i wanna know why dave wants to load sex
31:02 <rust_collector> so you wonder if Halcyon did it? I guess that makes sense
34:33 <K> yes
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44:11 <hsn> Halcyon, can u see ur touch ?
44:19 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/pOHgI7.jpg
44:55 <rust_collector> hey hsn
45:03 <hsn> hey mr rust
45:11 <hsn> how u doin
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45:53 <rust_collector> well, the plan was to get out of bed in 3 hours. I am still working on installing coffee
47:40 <rust_collector> I wonder if trying to make an esr meter is a good idea.... I think maybe it is
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59:08 <rust_collector> hsn, when are you going to the beach, so you can grill things all night?
59:23 <hsn> rust_collector, im going to covid test
59:29 <hsn> in few minutes
59:38 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
59:39 <hsn> im exposed
59:47 * hsn cough
59:50 <rust_collector> sniff
59:57 <hsn> and govt called me last night
00:08 <hsn> they said come test baby
00:24 <rust_collector> hello cutie, meet me at .....
00:42 <hsn> testing tent
00:57 <hsn> on your camel
01:01 <hsn> drive thru
01:27 <rust_collector> mess up their system, and walk thru, or use one of those kick bikes
02:06 <hsn> what is kick bikes
03:00 <rust_collector> https://www.bikehighway.com/media/catalog/product/cache/e453d7595bf7000eea80f5e0d4bd0e5a/b/e/belize_toucan_99121.jpg
03:06 <K> the ones you kick sand to get forward
03:11 <rust_collector> yes
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04:44 <hsn> no kick bikes for me
05:07 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/7P7AdzczxXGS8hhC9
05:30 <hsn> its a manual scooter ?
06:04 <rust_collector> yes
06:38 <rust_collector> no pedals, just a set of wheels you can stand on
07:51 <rust_collector> I wonder when they want me to go get tested....
08:52 <rust_collector> well, have fun with your testing
09:23 <rust_collector> I still wonder when you plan on grilling things on the beach again
21:07 <hsn> rust_collector, its not bad idea i've to talk to family and arrange that again
21:27 <rust_collector> I thin kit is a thing you need to do every few months
21:32 <hsn> we did few beach grills .. maybe 4-5 .. but non since 2021
22:41 <hsn> so i ll whatsapp the family to arrange one prolly next weak or the one after .. just need to check my covid result first :P
23:14 <rust_collector> that is a thing
23:54 <rust_collector> I still think it was interesting to see your bamboo coal
27:08 <hsn> hah
27:19 <hsn> do i still have that thing
27:48 <hsn> it was hard to "light it up" and also when its burning its doesnt shrink ..
27:51 <hsn> kept for hours
33:59 * steve30 should get some 18650 holders
34:21 <rust_collector> yes, he should
35:16 <rust_collector> jUsT3dPriNt Some
35:35 * steve30 doesn't have a 3d printer
35:54 <rust_collector> good boy!
36:04 <rust_collector> keep it that way. they are evil
36:31 <rust_collector> they will make you print not very pretty plastic boxes
46:13 <steve30> I forgot to order Phono plugs
57:53 <K> what a numpteeh!
59:33 <rust_collector> too late now...
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