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02:58:58 <electrohead> Halcyon_: don't think I have the required permissions to attempt that :P
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03:12:18 <hsn> https://twitter.com/realdonaldmap?s=09
03:28:48 <Watcher> good joke account hsn
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03:49:47 <Nothing\> ah fuck
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03:50:09 <Nothing\> almost got in a fight at the methadone clinic
03:50:42 <Nothing\> i'm not a violent person, but when somebody tells me to shut the fuck up in a serious context while trying to make it look like they're joking that's beyond insulting
03:50:51 <Nothing\> but like a good boy i kept my mouth shut
03:51:01 <Nothing\> but i'm seething, none the less
03:55:56 <electrohead> sounds like you need to stop going there and get off whatever you're given?
03:55:58 <electrohead> and, hey o/
03:56:05 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
03:58:14 <Nothing\> electrohead, no, this is the first time i've been there. and it had nothing to do with the methadone
03:58:21 <Nothing\> it was just an errant shit for brains
03:58:32 <Nothing\> plus i'm especially unhinged lately due to overwhelming stress
03:59:04 <electrohead> ahh ok
03:59:17 <electrohead> a methadone clinic just sounds like a bad place to be at :p
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04:00:29 <Nothing\> i don't blame you for thinking that, but it's always been a great experience, even talking to the ppeople
04:00:48 <Nothing\> but when somebody tells me to shut the fuck up and is so cowardly they can't even own up to it and think i'll believe they're just joking
04:00:56 <Nothing\> that's not something i'm going to stand for
04:01:22 <Nothing\> the only reason i didn't say anything is because i'm probation and more legal problems are the last thing i need
04:01:32 <Nothing\> especially conviction of violent crimes
04:02:38 <Nothing\> otherwise i'd have invited him outside
04:04:26 <Nothing\> i just... i've been so angry... so unhinged lately
04:04:33 <electrohead> you're good
04:04:38 <Nothing\> and i don't know what to do with all of this
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04:05:18 <Nothing\> i'm pretty fucking far from good
04:05:34 <Nothing\> but as long as i can at least think rationally, i'll get by
04:06:04 <Nothing\> much as i try to let the old me take over and just let my emotions overtake me
04:06:17 <Nothing\> try TO
04:06:23 <Nothing\> or at least, don't fight it
04:06:35 <Nothing\> i've given up fighting
04:07:19 <hsn> hola
04:07:51 <Nothing\> hey hsn
04:07:58 <Nothing\> how are you, buddy?
04:08:00 <hsn> hey Nothing\
04:08:11 * Nothing\ hugs hsn
04:08:19 <hsn> Nothing\, im doing ok .. learning new useless stuff as usual .. https://support.google.com/a/answer/33786#define-spf&zippy=%2Ctxt-record-format
04:08:28 <hsn> and how about u
04:08:31 * hsn hugs back
04:08:36 <Nothing\> nothing learned is useless, just learning makes you a better person
04:08:41 <Nothing\> even the attempt itself
04:08:54 <Nothing\> even if you get no tangible results, there are results
04:09:01 <Nothing\> me? i've been better
04:09:18 <Nothing\> but that's neither here nor there, i'm in my safe place now
04:09:27 <Nothing\> and i don't have to leave for the next 2 days
04:09:49 <hsn> sry
04:09:53 <Nothing\> thanks
04:09:55 <hsn> delivery guy came
04:10:05 <Nothing\> i wish i could say it'll pass, and well, I guess it will, but not for some time
04:10:08 <hsn> safe place ?
04:10:19 <hsn> whats going on with u ?
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04:10:29 <Nothing\> yeah, my safe place where i feel safe and like nothing can hurt me or get to me
04:10:49 <RonaldCrump> Can I use your Twitter?
04:10:49 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
04:11:00 <hsn> physical safe ,, or u talking about depression stuff Nothing\ ?
04:11:04 Kick: RonaldCrump was kicked by ChanOP ([Ampera] User Kick requested)
04:11:18 <electrohead> Ampera: no no, was going to ask (him/her) a few questions
04:11:24 <Nothing\> i don't want to get into details, but suffice it to say i'm going through the most stressful thing i've been through since my sentencing hearing when i was facing a year in prison
04:11:37 <Nothing\> electrohead, he's come in several times under several names
04:11:42 <Nothing\> he's evading bans at this point
04:11:47 * Ampera squeezes electrohead
04:11:53 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
04:11:56 <Nothing\> hey man
04:11:56 <Ampera> I haven't banned him yet
04:12:06 <Ampera> it's just getting mildly annoying, and I haven't kicked anything in a good while
04:12:07 <Nothing\> Ampera, check out my user modes
04:12:12 <Nothing\> you'll be pleasantly surprised
04:12:32 <hsn> Nothing\, does this means u have to go to prison for 1 year ? or went ?
04:12:38 <hsn> sry for my crap english
04:12:42 <Nothing\> hsn: no no, that's done with
04:13:00 <Nothing\> i was supposed to serve 3 months on weekends but thanks to covid i only did 10 days
04:13:04 <Nothing\> and that place was awesome
04:13:08 <Nothing\> i loved it in there
04:13:17 <hsn> ok i see now.. i hope u pass it with as less as shit as possible
04:13:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, might want to check your nick
04:13:21 <Nothing\> brm
04:13:25 <Ampera> er, username rather
04:13:26 <Ampera> not nick
04:13:36 <Nothing\> jeric?
04:13:40 <hsn> Ampera, i read as "neck" btw
04:13:51 <hsn> until u said username .. i parsed it correctly after
04:13:53 <Ampera> was just mildly concerned it'd be your real name or something
04:13:53 <Ampera> idk
04:14:29 <Ampera> how are you doing anyways, Nothing\
04:14:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, ah no
04:14:59 <Nothing\> just a placeholder
04:15:10 <Nothing\> i'm doing... existing
04:15:19 <Nothing\> almost got into a fight this morning at the methadone clinic
04:15:31 <Ampera> sounds fun
04:15:36 <Nothing\> some shit for brains told me to shut the fuck up so i was about to tell him to take his own advice or take it outside
04:15:41 <Nothing\> first time anything like that's happened
04:15:47 <Nothing\> only reason i kept my mouth shut was probation
04:15:50 <Nothing\> and my mother
04:15:58 <hsn> Nothing\, r u ill ?
04:16:08 <Nothing\> i'm not well, i know that much
04:16:20 <Nothing\> but i'm safe
04:16:42 <hsn> hmm
04:16:45 <Ampera> I went and submitted my passport application today
04:16:45 <Nothing\> i split a place with my mom so she's always here and i've given her all of my meds
04:16:58 <Nothing\> and she's prepared to take me to a psych ward at a moment's notice if need be
04:17:14 <hsn> i hate meds
04:17:16 <hsn> all of them
04:17:31 * Ampera locks Nothing\ up in a sike ward, where everyone's about to do something really unethical to you, but then it's fine because they said sike
04:17:37 <Nothing\> yeah, the so-called antiepressants are the worst
04:17:56 <Ysjoelfir> I found something medical looking in the asian store.
04:18:08 <Ysjoelfir> its also made from some japanese medication company.
04:18:09 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, was it an asian?
04:18:15 <Ysjoelfir> nope
04:18:19 <Ampera> wtf
04:18:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol yeah that's my one issue is my lack of trust in mental health professionals and the reason egregious breach of that trust by one such professional
04:18:22 <Ysjoelfir> it was... wait, let me get it
04:18:25 <Ampera> how can they call it an asian store and not sell asians
04:18:31 <Nothing\> and i don't say egregious lightly
04:18:35 <Ampera> it's like a drugstore that doesn't sell drugs
04:19:08 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, they're probably boner pills
04:19:17 <Nothing\> or "boner pills" i should say
04:19:23 <Nothing\> aka vitamins marketed as boner pills
04:19:42 <Nothing\> oh Ampera
04:19:51 <Ampera> I don't need boner pills, I already have too many
04:19:59 <Nothing\> they opened this legal cannabis dispensary in the same plaza as my pharmacy, right?
04:20:08 <Ysjoelfir> nope, it seems to be a energy drink :D
04:20:12 <Nothing\> the smell is SO bad you can smell it parked a block away
04:20:18 <Ysjoelfir> "Lipovitan-D"
04:20:27 <Nothing\> i can't imagine how the people in the townhouses nearby must be feeling
04:20:37 <Nothing\> the whole area reeks like skunk
04:20:38 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.amazon.de/LIPOVITAN-D-Energie-Getränk-5er-Pack-Packung/dp/B00478L0JQ
04:20:39 <Ampera> Canada is real confusing with their weed situation, I thought they descheduled it, but it seems they're still treating it like a controlled substance
04:20:43 <electrohead> smells like a skunk constantly? lol
04:20:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, sales are still controlled
04:21:03 <Nothing\> you have to apply for a license to sell
04:21:13 <Ampera> I mean that's the same with alcohol I suppose
04:21:19 <Nothing\> but there are a lot of black market places that a blind eye is turned to
04:21:44 <Nothing\> like, they just shut this one down that was downtown, but they also found coke and other drugs there in trafficking quantities
04:22:25 <Nothing\> lol actually the farm my great aunt owned back when my mom was a teenager got turned into a legal pot farm
04:22:31 <Ampera> I always new canada was pro-pepsi
04:22:42 <Nothing\> we drove by and the smell is even worse than at the new store that just opened
04:22:56 <Nothing\> you could smell it several concessions away
04:23:24 <Nothing\> Ampera, you know where the name pepsi comes from?
04:23:58 <Nothing\> they used to put pepsin in the drink, which is a digestive enzyme derived from the stomachs of cows
04:24:16 <Ampera> was about to guess something digestive in nature
04:24:28 <Ampera> what was the original name of Pepsi, though
04:24:38 <Nothing\> i thought that was it
04:24:42 <Nothing\> pepsicola
04:24:53 <Nothing\> i didn't know they had an original name
04:25:24 <Ampera> as the anecdote goes, it was supposedly Brad's Drink
04:25:28 <Nothing\> yup
04:25:30 <Nothing\> i just read that
04:25:48 <Nothing\> http://www.pepsistore.com/history.asp
04:26:18 <Nothing\> 1898 - One of Caleb's formulations, known as "Brad's Drink," a combination of carbonated water, sugar, vanilla, rare oils and cola nuts, is renamed "Pepsi-Cola" on August 28, 1898. Pepsi-Cola receives its first logo.
04:26:23 <Ampera> also wikipedia states pepsin was never actually added, and that it's an urban myth
04:26:38 <Ampera> the real answer is more in line with what I thought, in that it was supposed to treat dyspepsia
04:26:57 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i was wondering about that since the 1898 entry mentioned nothing about pepsin being an ingredient
04:27:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, treat? HAHAHAHA
04:27:10 <Nothing\> more like cause
04:27:26 <Nothing\> i know if my stomach was upset, the last thing i'd want is a damn cola
04:27:36 <Nothing\> especially a pepsi, that stuff's so acidic
04:28:13 <Nothing\> in fact, i've heard of amateur chemists using it as a source for phosphoric acid, or at least phosphate, i'm not 100% on that
04:28:54 <Kuschelpony> hmmm, now you make me wonder if i should have bought a cola today to try out :)
04:28:57 <Nothing\> cuz phosphoric acid is one of the main ingredients, gives it its characteristic bite more than the carbonic acid formed by the CO2
04:29:10 <Nothing\> you've never had cola?
04:29:26 <Kuschelpony> oh the past ten years only very occasionally
04:29:32 <Nothing\> ah
04:29:35 <Ampera> reminds me of the strangest thing I experienced while last in Germany
04:29:42 <Ampera> where everyone seemed to call Fanta lemonade.
04:29:44 <Nothing\> i think it's an acquired taste, really
04:29:52 <Ampera> despite it just being fanta, definitively an orange soda
04:29:59 <Nothing\> i never liked pepsi as a child because the "bite" was too strong
04:30:04 <Kuschelpony> i like the taste on approbiate occasions, but not the ehm lets say weight gain from drinking more
04:30:12 <Ampera> I've never had pepsi and coke side by side, and couldn't tell you the difference
04:30:39 <Ampera> I use to drink aspartame sodas by the liter, but I stopped doing that out of concern about the sheer quantity of aspartame I was consuming, and as well as the highly acidic soda fucking my teeth
04:30:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah fanta was developed by the nazis because due to sanctions, they ran out of ingredients to make coke out of, so they had to make a replacement.
04:30:49 <Nothing\> or so the story goes.
04:30:53 <Kuschelpony> hmm, "Fanta" falls well under our broad definition of "Lemonade" we never limit it to lemon joice basedthiongs only
04:31:14 <Ampera> Lemonade is specifically a drink made of water, lemons, and sugar
04:31:39 <Kuschelpony> well the aspartame also had the effect, at least for me, to considerably increase my lust to eat anything with sugar
04:32:00 <Ampera> with exception like pink lemonade, which as urban legend states, was invented during I believe a chicago world fair when a lemonade stand ran out of water, and ended up using wash water from an acrobat's red tights, which had leeched and stained the water red
04:32:01 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, well honestly it's only about 25g of sugar per can. Which is a lot if it's all you drink. But you could probably get away with drinknig one a day and not have any health effects.
04:32:05 <Ampera> thus, making pink lemonade
04:32:16 <Ampera> afaik though pink lemonade is just lemonade with pink food coloring
04:32:24 <Kuschelpony> yes, the original Lemonade is for sure, i just meant that in germany the word "Lemonade" is widely used for all drinks that mix some at least partially acidic fruits with sugar
04:32:39 <Ampera> that'd explain it anyways then
04:32:46 <Nothing\> i'd be more worried about what the acidity of pepsi would do to your teeth
04:32:49 <Ampera> it's like here, people will sometimes call all sodas "cola"
04:32:57 <Ampera> or coke, or whatever
04:33:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah around here it's referred to as pop
04:33:11 <Kuschelpony> Nothing, i just try to suppress any unnecesary sugar and also saturated fats, as i my body is doing very well to digest them
04:33:22 <Ampera> Aspartame is a consistent source of anecdotal fear, but it's not my main qualm
04:33:24 <Nothing\> but seeing as the word "pop" isn't on the bottle anywhere, I call it soda
04:33:47 <Ampera> here it's soda
04:34:16 <Ampera> if you say pop, they look at you strange, and if you start calling other things cola, we'll pack you up and ship you down the river to someone who has the patience to deal with you
04:34:18 <Nothing\> i tell people "pop's you're dad. This is soda"
04:34:43 <Nothing\> yeah i rarely hear it referred to as cola in any part of the states
04:34:48 <Nothing\> it was either pop or soda
04:34:57 <Nothing\> mostly pop in the north or the midwest
04:35:10 <Nothing\> and soda was more popular in the south
04:35:34 <Nothing\> can't speak for the west coast, that whole area was one wacky mcdonald's playland
04:35:39 <Nothing\> especially the bay area
04:35:56 <Nothing\> ie san francisco
04:36:30 <Ampera> as a new yanker, anything to do with the west coast is automagically shit
04:36:42 <Ampera> sadly we don't tend to be that far off from reality on that one either
04:36:56 <Nothing\> ugh i've been trying to think of the name of that nutter hippy LSD guy who screwed and married a dolphin and wrote this software that supposedly predicts major world events
04:37:03 <Nothing\> something lily
04:37:08 <Nothing\> john lily?
04:37:34 <Nothing\> but his whole experience with LSD and dolphins was the basis for the story of ECCO the Dolphin
04:37:43 <Ampera> there are few things more dangerous than online shopping
04:39:22 <Nothing\> "It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane."
04:39:37 <Nothing\> i think that's one of my favourite quotes
04:41:17 * electrohead sprinkles anti-insanity powder onto Nothing\
04:42:06 <Ampera> my new mouse is out for deliverance
04:42:08 <Nothing\> if only it were that easy
04:42:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, delivery
04:42:37 * Ampera feeds Nothing\ so much insanity power he flips the insanity counter and becomes the most sane person on earth
04:42:44 <Ampera> Nothing\, what about it
04:42:55 <Nothing\> deliverance is when some rednecks rape you at gunpoint in the woods while making you squeal like a pig
04:42:58 <Ampera> what are you getting delivered
04:43:02 <Ampera> ooo
04:43:06 <Ampera> I like deliverance
04:43:26 <Nothing\> i can't help but grin like a moron during the banjo duel
04:44:11 <Nothing\> then when the kid stops playing and stares blankly into the distance while not responding to anything said to him I imagine him saying "Insert Coin"
04:44:36 <Nothing\> i should watch that again
04:44:37 <Ampera> anyways, I've selected a bunch of options for clothes I maybe probably wanna buy, so I may or may not fall asleep a little bit and then buy them when I wake up
04:45:00 <Nothing\> you know i have a single set of clothes and no more
04:45:09 <Nothing\> well, i've got multiple pairs of boxers and socks
04:45:13 <Nothing\> but that's it
04:45:20 <Ampera> uhhhh
04:45:44 <Nothing\> just one pair of black jeans and a black button up shirt
04:45:50 <Ampera> why
04:45:52 <Nothing\> with a sorta vague plaid pattern on it
04:46:04 <Nothing\> because buying clothes requires me to leave my safe space
04:46:25 <Ampera> you can buy clothes online though
04:46:46 <Nothing\> yeah i just thought of that, though i dunno where i'd go
04:46:50 <Nothing\> amazon maybe
04:46:53 * Nothing\ shrugs
04:46:58 <Ampera> that's what I've been staring at for a few hours
04:47:05 <Nothing\> but usually i'd get my clothes at a second hand store
04:47:12 <Nothing\> cuz you can get amazing deals from them
04:47:15 <Ampera> I prefer hour hand stores
04:47:21 <Nothing\> like my nice button up shirt was about $5
04:47:41 <Ampera> they take more time, but it's a shorter process
04:47:44 <Nothing\> lol
04:48:07 <Nothing\> ah well i guess i'll play some gta v
04:48:14 <Nothing\> still haven't even played gta online
04:48:14 <Ampera> if I bought one of everything I've picked out I'd probably end up spending half a grand on clothes, so I'm still in need of eliminating choices
04:48:24 <Nothing\> jeez
04:48:28 <Ampera> but that sounds like a problem for more awake me
04:48:31 <Nothing\> yeah i'm not a fan of clothes shopping
04:48:45 <Nothing\> though i'd like that negative feedback op-amp shirt
04:49:05 <Nothing\> and/or a 555 internal diagram shirt
04:49:49 <Ampera> When all I bought was men's clothing it really never was any interesting, because I just didn't care what I looked like. It's a lot more interesting seeing what they have for women's clothes.
04:53:50 <Nothing\> oh yeah i can definitely see that
04:54:26 <Nothing\> women and gays have so much more to accessorize when it comes to clothes
04:56:05 <Ampera> gays?
04:56:14 <Ampera> what on earth does being gay have to do with clothing
04:57:52 <Nothing\> i dunno it just seems like they put more effort into how they look than heteros
04:58:03 <Ampera> wha
04:58:11 <steve30> gays are more stylish :p
04:58:11 <Nothing\> so they have a lot more options available to them
04:58:13 <Ampera> you do know what the definition of gay is, right?
04:58:16 <Nothing\> steve30, yes!
04:58:21 <Ampera> :P
04:58:21 <Nothing\> that's what i was trying to say
04:58:33 <Kuschelpony> hmmm, just an thought, what about an shirt with animated 555 innards :)
04:58:37 <Ampera> I have no idea what dressing gay is like
04:58:48 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, now that would kick ass
04:58:53 <Ampera> all the gay people I've met have worn normal ass clothes :P
04:58:54 <Kuschelpony> but that might lead to troubles around non-geeky airtports
04:58:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, just think metro, but real gay
04:59:03 <Ampera> metro?
04:59:07 <Nothing\> metrosexual
04:59:14 <Nothing\> a person who dresses and acts gay, but isn't
04:59:22 <Ampera> so we start with people fucking pans, and now we have fucking trains
04:59:29 <Ampera> how do you dress gay
04:59:38 <Nothing\> flamboyantly
04:59:52 <Ampera> that sounds pretty discriminatory towards gay people who aren't flamboyant
05:00:36 <Nothing\> well, obviously they're not all flamboyant
05:00:36 <Ampera> idk, I don't like how people have stapled all sorts of extra meaning to being homosexual
05:00:50 <Nothing\> i'm just talking about the ones who are
05:01:03 <Nothing\> obviously this is just a generalization
05:02:09 <Nothing\> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61SEWXRUurL._AC_UL1263_.jpg
05:02:15 <Nothing\> see, that's what i was talking about
05:02:17 <coppice> Ampera: people conflate homosexuality and being effeminate. While there seems to be some connection, as a disproportionate number of effeminate people seem to be homosexual, the connection is weak
05:02:20 <Nothing\> that sort of dressing
05:02:31 <Ampera> Nothing\, I have never once seen a person who liked like that in my life
05:02:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, go to san francisco and that will change immediately
05:02:50 <Ampera> coppice, I've always figured it's some sort of cultural crap.
05:03:16 <Nothing\> and i'm not even joking
05:03:27 <Ampera> I could probably write a list containing tens of thousands of locations I'd rather have to pay to go to, than be given a free trip to san franciso
05:03:32 <Nothing\> people are a lot more open about it in the bay area
05:03:37 <Ampera> open about what
05:03:43 <Nothing\> being gay
05:03:50 <Nothing\> and the culture behind it
05:03:52 <Ampera> but what does being gay have to do with being flamboyant
05:04:01 <Nothing\> because some gay people are flamboyant
05:04:06 <Ampera> yes, some
05:04:10 <Ampera> but you're talking about like they all are
05:04:24 <Nothing\> no no no, i apologize if that was the idea i was giving
05:04:30 <Nothing\> but that wasn't my intention
05:04:51 <Ampera> and while there is a certain subset of homosexuals who engage in a common culture, that can be honestly be described as "gay" culture, it's also dumb that people think that being gay is a cultural thing
05:04:59 <Nothing\> and i'm genuinely sorry if i offended you with it. Which it seems I have.
05:05:02 <coppice> Nothing\: you are looking at a group who combine being gay and being flamboyant and effeminate, and assuming that's the bulk of both character types
05:05:10 <Ampera> no, I'm not offended actually, just enjoying some discourse :P
05:05:17 * electrohead offends Ampera
05:05:23 <Nothing\> ah okay, that's good to know then, Ampera
05:05:23 <Ampera> electrohead, that's hard to do
05:05:27 <electrohead> :p
05:05:36 <Nothing\> i know what you mean, i like playing devil's advocate as well.
05:05:37 <electrohead> and I fucked up by opening that link just posted before
05:06:17 <Ampera> I'm very much for words meaning exactly and only what words mean. Connotations are fine, but mandatory secondary meanings are annoying
05:09:11 <Ampera> man, I haven't been this tired in a long time
05:09:54 <Ampera> I think my problem last night was just having a very busy mind in general, which will often make it hard to sleep, since I keep thinking of stuff to do and that I should totally just sit up and look at real quick
05:29:36 * steve30 passes Ampera a Halcyon_
05:43:46 <Nothing\> man wtf
05:44:06 <Nothing\> you can pay $99 to get $8 million in GTA V
05:44:13 <Nothing\> $99 real
05:44:43 <Nothing\> if i pay that much for something in a game, it better be a big add on pack
05:45:01 <Nothing\> i mean, than's 8x more than i paid for the actual game itself
05:45:56 <Nothing\> it's no wonder there are no money cheats and you're pretty much broke the entire game until the end of it IF you play your cards right and know what you're doing
05:46:46 <Nothing\> it's just one excuse after another as to why you can't get paid a job. You owe somebody money, the guy hired you ripped you off, you lose the money somehow
05:49:59 <rust_collector> uuuh. wth are you talking about?
06:03:31 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
06:03:47 <rust_collector> ok
06:37:33 <Ysjoelfir> lol
06:37:51 * Ysjoelfir gets some Punsch
06:37:56 <Ysjoelfir> or is it Bowle because its cold?
06:38:07 <rust_collector> that is what you would call it
06:40:50 <hsn> What?
06:41:04 <rust_collector> no
06:41:06 <hsn> Mr rust good day to u
06:41:10 <rust_collector> yes
06:41:17 <hsn> I missed u
06:41:29 <rust_collector> I did sleep all day, so it was not bad
06:41:40 <hsn> All day
06:41:48 <hsn> So what is now ?
06:41:53 <hsn> Next day?
06:41:58 <rust_collector> evening?
06:42:15 <rust_collector> 8.42 here
06:42:19 <hsn> So u didnt sleep all day
06:42:25 <hsn> 4 hours left
06:42:28 <rust_collector> no
06:43:00 <hsn> Yes
06:43:16 <rust_collector> oh
06:43:49 <hsn> rust_collector: i was playing with mail and dkim dns stuff all day
06:43:57 <rust_collector> no
06:44:35 <rust_collector> why are you messing with mail?
06:44:48 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/u2CGaXttszeNJ3hr5
06:45:12 <hsn> rust_collector, learning new stuff
06:45:18 <rust_collector> ok
06:45:39 <rust_collector> so, ok, mail, what is dkim?
06:45:44 <hsn> Gmail counts my mails as spamd though
06:46:35 <rust_collector> sounds good
06:46:36 <hsn> Dkim to my understanding is a way that mail servers know that it was ur domain who sent the email ..
06:47:01 <rust_collector> hmmkay
06:47:17 <hsn> Or ur domain allows .. that software in that ip machine to send email under its name
06:47:41 <hsn> DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) is an email authentication method designed to detect forged sender addresses in emails (email spoofing), a technique often used in phishing and email spam
06:47:51 <hsn> My description is crap as always
06:48:11 <rust_collector> All I have heard about mail, across the internet, is that it is easy enough to send a mail, but there is so much stuff on top of stuff, that it is a pain to do properly
06:49:28 <Ysjoelfir> what is that strange "internet" thing you're talking about?
06:50:03 <rust_collector> it is pipes that you send information thru
06:50:32 <hsn> Electron porn happen inside these pipes
06:50:51 <hsn> When u send a mail
06:57:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir:
06:57:59 <hsn> Mochtest du einen Kaffee ..
06:57:59 <Ysjoelfir> maybe
06:58:02 <Ysjoelfir> ew
06:58:03 <Ysjoelfir> no
06:58:11 <Ysjoelfir> but I would take a tea
06:58:14 <hsn> Why "einen" here ?
06:58:18 <hsn> Lol
06:58:49 <hsn> Now i feel i ve to buy u a tea :p
06:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> thats actually a good question. one sec, I ask my fellow grammar nazis
06:59:41 <rust_collector> why is it "a" coffee? I think it is almost the same
07:02:10 <Ysjoelfir> we think that it probably is because you are actually asking for "a cup of XYZ", because you can't "get" a coffee, like, the liquid stuff directly into your hand, without the cup. but we have no clue
07:03:03 <rust_collector> sure you can. I have had coffee poured on my wrist many times
07:03:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, yes, but thats usually not what you are asking for :D
07:03:39 <rust_collector> usually, no. but...
07:04:15 <hsn> I see
07:04:45 <rust_collector> we do the same thing here. coffee is in a cup, so, we are going to get one
07:04:55 <rust_collector> or two
07:05:09 <Ysjoelfir> it could also be a thing that just is because it is, without having a real reason. so... I dunno
07:05:30 <Ysjoelfir> you guys do tallerkenenen as well, rusty :D (or did I have a en to much in there?)
07:05:58 <Ysjoelfir> so its not irritating me a bit that you do the same strange things in your language as we do in our strange language :)
07:06:11 <rust_collector> if we do platetetete?
07:06:59 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:07:31 <rust_collector> well, we have a tallerken, the tallerkenen, several tallerkener, and all the tallerkene.
07:08:19 <rust_collector> well, that is just in the area i live, i am not sure if the rest use the -r
07:09:37 <Ysjoelfir> right. I like that :) I also laughed about the idea of constricting the 2vegetarianerianer. (from a comment in duolingo discussing "vegetarianer". someone mentioned that he likes the idea to add -ianer to a thing to indicate that someone favours something.)
07:09:43 <Ysjoelfir> -2
07:11:45 <Ysjoelfir> *constructing
07:11:53 <Ysjoelfir> damn, to much punsch. or not enough
07:12:36 <rust_collector> punschianer
07:12:45 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
07:12:50 <rust_collector> yes, that would probably work
07:13:03 <Ysjoelfir> or maybe punscherianer. sounds more interesting. :)
07:13:34 <rust_collector> well, if you are into doing punsch
07:13:46 <rust_collector> like a verb sort of thing
07:14:02 <Ysjoelfir> like "punsching"
07:14:08 <rust_collector> yes
07:14:15 <Ysjoelfir> heh. yeah, why not
07:14:19 <Ysjoelfir> YES
07:14:19 <Ysjoelfir> erm
07:14:25 <Ysjoelfir> .. my brain
07:14:36 <rust_collector> you can have 3 more
07:14:46 <Ysjoelfir> I actually wrote what I intended to answer to mrs spouse
07:15:07 <Ysjoelfir> she asked if I would go with her to the kitchen to get more punsch
07:15:11 <Ysjoelfir> so,.....brb
07:15:51 <rust_collector> have a great adventure to the kitchen
07:19:20 <Ysjoelfir> I had, thanks. back with more bowle punsch whatever
07:19:25 <Ysjoelfir> now its slightly warm already
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07:19:37 <Ysjoelfir> so its probably converting to punsch rather than bowle
07:20:28 <rust_collector> I have coffee... that is pretty much all I have. and one can of christmas beer, whatever that is
07:21:19 <Ysjoelfir> beer send by santa I think?
07:21:35 <rust_collector> something like that
07:24:44 <rust_collector> santa...I mean kid #2 is making tacos.
07:25:09 <Ysjoelfir> is it friday already?
07:25:20 <rust_collector> i don't know
07:26:28 <rust_collector> heh, boss has put me on the same trip as this other guy, 3 days next week. i think I might have some time off again
07:28:49 <hsn> Roadtrips
07:28:52 <hsn> ?
07:29:08 <rust_collector> no, just trips on the road
07:30:39 <Ysjoelfir> heh. nice :D
07:33:27 <rust_collector> a heated thermostat. that is very gm
07:37:17 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
07:37:47 <rust_collector> opel/chevrolet 4 cylinder. it has a heater in the thermostat housing?
07:38:24 <rust_collector> which seems a bit backwards to me, but..
07:38:38 <Ysjoelfir> oO why would you need that
07:39:52 <rust_collector> enginerding
07:43:07 <Ysjoelfir> so you mean... because reasons?
07:44:30 <rust_collector> pretty much that
07:44:51 <rust_collector> i am sure there is a good reason, but it still seems backwards
07:46:19 <rust_collector> https://www.tier1online.com/728-x1yoga-c/refurbished-thinkpad-x1-yoga-i7-6600u-16gb-512gb-nvme-fhd-touch-grade-c
07:49:25 <Ysjoelfir> you need a new pc?
07:49:51 <rust_collector> no
07:50:30 <Ysjoelfir> Mr child does again?
07:50:33 <rust_collector> no
07:50:50 <rust_collector> but that looks like a nice enough machine
07:50:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hm
07:50:56 <Ysjoelfir> it does, yes.
07:51:52 <hsn> Its yoga machine rust_collector
07:52:43 <rust_collector> yes
07:52:50 <rust_collector> hippies like yoga
08:53:06 <Ysjoelfir> uh.. mrs spouse wants to watch strange movies again.
08:53:34 <rust_collector> hippie movies
08:53:53 <rust_collector> lots of people in pakistan also want to watch movies
08:55:24 <Ysjoelfir> WTF
08:55:30 <Ysjoelfir> 2 people are on a roof
08:55:33 <Ysjoelfir> on a house
08:55:38 <Ysjoelfir> on the coast of lampedusa
08:55:50 <rust_collector> house party! WOOOO!!!
08:55:50 <Ysjoelfir> it is flat as fuck. no hill in like 15 kilometers viewing distance
08:55:52 <Ysjoelfir> suddenly
08:56:33 <Ysjoelfir> old guy gets shot from the back - from some angle that was (according to the blood splattering) from OVER them.
08:57:00 <Ysjoelfir> wtf was shooting there? a sniper with automatic stabilisation in a stealth helicopter with active noise canceling?
08:57:48 <rust_collector> could be your regular drone
08:58:37 <Ysjoelfir> nah
08:58:56 <Ysjoelfir> that was a way bigger bullet than any drone could carry
08:59:02 <rust_collector> uhm
08:59:07 <Ysjoelfir> or better, shoot. it could probably carry the bullet alone
08:59:23 <Ampera> could have been an arcing projectile
09:00:47 <Ysjoelfir> wait
09:02:37 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/3uAX9s.jpg see? went through a shoulder, 2 rip cages came out again with much remaining velocity, came from above and sounded like a tank shooting a 120mm round
09:03:29 <rust_collector> heh
09:04:30 <rust_collector> well, I think a 120mm would do a bit more... not that I have shot many people with that
09:04:53 <rust_collector> maybe a piece of one?
09:05:35 <rust_collector> what are people standing on the roof for anyway?
09:06:11 <Ysjoelfir> old guy was telling young guy in that moment that he will inherit "all of this"
09:06:29 <Ysjoelfir> before they were trying to make some kind of deal with some mafia guys
09:06:35 <Ysjoelfir> which didn't work out
09:22:58 <Ysjoelfir> so... mr. left guy just decided to grab the stewardes in his plane and force her to deepthroat
09:23:19 <Halcyon_> Morning all
09:23:23 Nick: Halcyon_ is now known as Halcyon
09:23:28 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
09:23:34 <Ampera> :)
09:23:37 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir did you get my message on Whatsapp?
09:23:42 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
09:23:42 <Ysjoelfir> a few seconds later he kidnaps some other woman and allows her generously to fall in love with him because he saw him when he got shot. what sick shit am I watching here? Oo
09:23:46 <Ysjoelfir> yes Halcyon :)
09:23:51 <Halcyon> Cool cool
09:26:01 <Ysjoelfir> so now he decided to rape her, right after whispering in her ear "I won't do anything you don't want!" and after she declined his generous offer to allow her to fall in love with the guy who kidnapped her
09:27:06 <Ampera> what fucking story are you recounting
09:27:26 <Ysjoelfir> [22:53:04] <@Ysjoelfir> uh.. mrs spouse wants to watch strange movies again.
09:27:27 <Ysjoelfir> that one
09:27:36 <rust_collector> this is what american women like watching, it seems
09:27:38 <Ampera> oh it's a movie
09:27:39 <Ampera> carry on
09:27:44 <Ysjoelfir> its called 356 days
09:27:52 <Ysjoelfir> *365
09:27:57 <Ampera> sounds like a long movie
09:28:08 <Ysjoelfir> sadly yes. 2 hours
09:28:29 <Ampera> I'm not sure I'd call that too long for a movie
09:28:36 <Ampera> it could have a 365 minute run time >:D
09:29:25 <rust_collector> i remember we had to watch a looong movie when we were done in school. nothing happened in it, except a church burning, iIrc. so we had a mini-riot, and were thrown out, so we went home
09:31:36 * electrohead waves
09:31:40 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
09:31:48 * Ampera hugs electrohead
09:31:52 * electrohead hugs Ampera
09:32:01 * Ysjoelfir hugs electrohead
09:32:10 * electrohead hugs Ysjoelfir
09:32:15 <electrohead> it's a hug-fest
09:32:17 <electrohead> lol
09:32:39 <Ysjoelfir> soon we will enter the next stage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprNwUFCHpM
09:35:35 <electrohead> queen of vagina? lol
09:37:10 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead
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09:59:41 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, https://www.placo.fr/
09:59:47 <rust_collector> you can thank me later
10:01:08 <Ysjoelfir> can Iß
10:01:17 <Ysjoelfir> I can't do the french things :D
10:01:33 <rust_collector> saves you from watching long crap movies
10:01:42 <Ysjoelfir> oh! nice!
10:02:07 <rust_collector> my french is very very very...bad
10:02:16 <Ysjoelfir> well, I'm not seriously watching it, its just running at the second screen while I'm playing factorio with a friend^^
10:02:22 <Ysjoelfir> mine is like... nonexistant
10:02:31 <rust_collector> and that is just the tiny bit of it that I know
10:16:58 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I ordered some aluminium rounds. Have a product idea I want to try to sell in my "work in progress"-shop
10:17:12 <rust_collector> mmkayyy
10:19:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes. Idea was: some motorcycles like my BMW have non standard sized grips, so regular heated grips don't fit
10:20:20 <rust_collector> mmkayyy
10:21:51 <Ysjoelfir> I found a system that gets sold rather well: a brass round with a glued in 5.6 ohms 10W resistor glued into that. that brass thing gets glued INTO the handle. seems to work very well, but it is VERY expensive for just a bit of brass and two 5.6R resistors and a switch to either have it at 100 or 25%
10:22:00 <Ysjoelfir> I want to make something simmilar, but better.
10:22:40 <rust_collector> inside the handle tube? like a plug?
10:23:10 <Ysjoelfir> aluminum should conduct heat better than brass IIRC, is also WAY cheaper. I want to add a better heating cartridge (50W) as well and don't glue it into it but make it kind of a press fit. that should give great heat transfer.
10:23:38 <Ysjoelfir> add a stepless regulator and voila, better product which I could sell for way less money than the 200€ the brass guys want.
10:23:44 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, inside the tube.
10:24:00 <rust_collector> I guess the glue is just to make it fit more random size tubes...
10:24:32 <T3sl4> steve30, https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/kttky5/purrfection/
10:24:53 <Ysjoelfir> I meant they glue a resistor into the brass insert which gets then glued inside the handle. the brass insert is available in several siztes to fit different handles
10:25:10 <rust_collector> if you are going to make them, maybe make a few, then turn down to the customers diameter, after they order?
10:25:24 <Ysjoelfir> exactly what I had in mind :)
10:25:47 <rust_collector> well, biker guys will pay for anything. don't make them too cheap
10:27:30 <Ysjoelfir> material costs should be ~20€. I thought I could sell it for 100 for a cheap and easy 100%/25% power version, 150 for a stepples version 200€ maybe for a version with some intelligence in it, like... a temp sensor for the outside temperature to regulate the heating if you enter eg. a valley which is very cold
10:28:10 <rust_collector> how about using the wedge system, like bike seats and handlebar height adjusting things? ie, cut the end at 45 or so, and use a screw to wedge it in there. it would also be easy to get out, if needed
10:29:29 <rust_collector> hmm, I guess something that turned on to the low setting at anything under.... 7c or something, could be a feature
10:29:36 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... not a bad idea. the heating cartridge is like.... 30mm long and the aluminium rod would be 100mm. I could cut the last 15mm at an angle and use that for clamping
10:29:52 <rust_collector> right
10:29:53 <Ysjoelfir> yep, exactly that could be a thing for the high price version
10:32:22 <rust_collector> make it adjustable from a phone app, lol
10:33:21 <Ysjoelfir> erm, no
10:33:27 <rust_collector> or, if you have a samsung dishwasher, or kitchen stove, you can use that too
10:34:22 <Ysjoelfir> xD
10:39:07 <rust_collector> I think you have to have different sections in your store. this could be very confusing
10:39:35 * electrohead offers beer
10:40:55 <Ysjoelfir> there wil be different sections, absolutely.
10:41:08 * Ysjoelfir takes beer
10:41:40 <rust_collector> https://www.vinmonopolet.no/Land/Sverige/Husholdnings-Rom/p/10835601 eh?
10:41:52 <rust_collector> household rum?
10:42:50 <Ysjoelfir> erm
10:42:55 <Ysjoelfir> for cleaning purposes maybe
10:43:12 <rust_collector> i have never thought rum was made in sweden
10:46:21 <rust_collector> https://www.vinmonopolet.no/Land/Danmark/Rammstein-Rum/p/11665501
10:46:30 <rust_collector> and it is danish.... ???
10:47:22 <rust_collector> https://www.vinmonopolet.no/Land/Nederland/Volbeat-Rum-III/p/12145501 and the danish band is from the netherlands...
10:48:38 <rust_collector> kiss is swedish, motörhead is from the dominican republic..
10:51:58 <Ysjoelfir> xD very strange coincidences :P
10:52:08 <rust_collector> you have to sell fuel line magnets too
10:52:29 <Ysjoelfir> eh. not sure :D
10:52:48 <Ysjoelfir> maybe also OBD2 fuel... more efficient maker thingies
10:53:05 <rust_collector> just make sure to say they do nothing at all for fuel efficiency or anything, but they might stop magnetic crap from getting into things, lol
10:53:31 <electrohead> "it aligns the fuel in a positive direction"
10:53:32 <electrohead> hahaha
10:54:08 <rust_collector> yes, obd2 dongles, with a ball of wires, that you can hot glue in behind the air filter box
10:55:41 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that :D
10:56:44 <electrohead> just don't hook up the dongles
10:56:51 <electrohead> connect them to each other
10:57:06 <electrohead> then, "RF magic" shall take place
10:57:26 <rust_collector> they have a built in battery, so when you plug them into the shorted out socket, it turns on, and does its thing
10:57:26 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
11:02:15 <Ampera> I may or may not have bought around 375USD worth of clothes
11:02:23 <rust_collector> hummm
11:03:00 <rust_collector> I know it is winter, but...
11:03:02 <Ampera> but I did have a 200 dollar gift card
11:03:16 <Ampera> I bought about 50/50 summer/winter clothes
11:03:31 <rust_collector> I have probably spent that on clothes for me
11:03:36 <Ampera> though, in winter, with a big puffy jacket, the clothes don't really matter that much
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11:05:25 <rust_collector> i always just use work clothes. unless I am going to a birthday or something. i do buy socks and underwear things
11:05:47 <Ampera> where I work, even if we were going in, work clothes are just clothes
11:05:50 <Ampera> nobody cares
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11:06:05 <Ampera> I'd say so long as you're not a complete slob you'll be fine, but that's not even the case
11:06:18 <rust_collector> the thing is that we have "uniforms" so they have to give me free clothes
11:06:20 <Ampera> it's hilariously hard to fire someone for being disgusting
11:08:48 <electrohead> I'm due to purchase new clothes >.<
11:08:54 <electrohead> and new shoes as well
11:09:08 <Ampera> I did buy boots actually
11:09:36 <electrohead> have some decent boots, they just need new laces
11:09:43 <Ampera> I have really good boots
11:09:47 <Ampera> genuinely excellent
11:10:11 <Ampera> they just have the subtlety of knocking on someone's door with a sledgehammer
11:10:39 <Ampera> great for trekking through hilly terrain AKA unplowed sidewalks, but besides that a bit much for just walking around places
11:13:25 <rust_collector> i think I maybe have a pair or normal shoes
11:20:43 <T3sl4> mmm, tea with honey
11:21:34 * electrohead waves at T3sl4
11:21:41 * T3sl4 buzzes at electrohead
11:38:37 * rust_collector eats more tacos
11:39:23 * electrohead offers himself to rust_collector's taco
11:39:32 <electrohead> sounds so wrong, lol
11:39:41 <rust_collector> uhm, yes.
11:39:48 <electrohead> :p
11:41:56 <T3sl4> what yo taco bout willis
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12:50:18 <rust_collector> I wonder if I maybe should get an eeprom reader/writer thingie... Do you have that in your store, Ysjoelfir?
12:52:08 <Halcyon> Mmmm tacos
12:52:27 <rust_collector> yes. horrible, but it could be worse
12:54:13 <Ysjoelfir> Not yet, but I thought about getting such things. as well as an ISP programmer for atmels and stuff.
12:54:32 <Ysjoelfir> but I have a scope for sale atm :D even though that one needs a bit love
12:55:27 <rust_collector> are you going to start ebay.cn.de?
12:55:42 <Ysjoelfir> xD
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13:01:22 <rust_collector> oooh, the steve30K again
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13:05:52 <rust_collector> oh nice. some guy in canada has one for 5 times the price, and I have to double that for shipping
13:05:58 <rust_collector> that is an idea
13:14:27 <Ysjoelfir> nice!
13:14:34 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a bargain
13:14:41 <Ysjoelfir> also, I should make waffles
13:14:49 <rust_collector> yes, you should
13:35:23 <electrohead> ~
13:35:42 <rust_collector> ||
13:38:34 <electrohead> ~ is my way of saying I'm home
13:38:37 <electrohead> :p
13:38:49 <rust_collector> i don't care
13:39:20 <rust_collector> || is my way of saying we need someone to be done making waffles
13:39:35 <electrohead> lol
13:40:29 <rust_collector> hmm, do you have an eeprom reader/writer thingie?
13:41:47 <rust_collector> and I like it when people start making waffles at half past 3 in the morning
13:47:12 <electrohead> I have many
13:47:33 <electrohead> maybe, too many?
13:47:36 <electrohead> wait, no n
13:47:37 <electrohead> no*
13:47:41 <electrohead> not enough, I mean!
13:47:55 <rust_collector> ok, do you have one you prefer, for general random things?
13:48:43 <electrohead> for eeproms?
13:48:44 <electrohead> the TL866
13:48:58 <electrohead> err, in general *
13:49:10 <rust_collector> ok. because...
13:49:38 <electrohead> I got mine with a fuck ton of adapters for many different form factors of eeproms and such
13:49:44 <rust_collector> right
13:49:51 <electrohead> right
13:50:41 <rust_collector> and what programs do you use with it?
13:51:50 * electrohead double checks the URL for you
13:52:11 <electrohead> https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro
13:52:14 <electrohead> that one
13:53:19 <electrohead> what's your primary OS?
13:54:24 <rust_collector> mx. debian
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13:54:58 <Guest|98881> Hey, anyone around?
13:55:01 <electrohead> No.
13:55:28 <rust_collector> I doubt it. it is in the middle of the night
13:55:33 <electrohead> lol
13:55:38 <electrohead> nah, some of us are here
13:55:45 <electrohead> different time zones for all of us
13:56:30 <electrohead> rust_collector: you in the mood to manually build a deb package? :p
13:56:52 <rust_collector> eeh. not right now, do I have to?
13:57:04 <electrohead> not sure, is it available in your repos?
13:57:21 <rust_collector> that thing? I dunno?
13:57:28 <electrohead> look?
13:57:31 <electrohead> lol
13:57:39 <rust_collector> but as I don't have the device... uhm, well..
13:57:57 <electrohead> :p
13:58:12 <electrohead> worst case though, you could just manually compile it, and run without a proper install
13:58:48 <rust_collector> yeah, I am not worried about that part of it
13:59:00 <rust_collector> I ws just wondering what people used
13:59:37 <rust_collector> it is one of those bright ideas you get on a sunday morning, and ebay exists
14:00:45 <rust_collector> ok, so it is this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Minipro-Conair-cs56-1-2-Ceramic-Straightener/323583627679?hash=item4b5716519f:g:d3QAAOSwc6ZcB5IG looks nice
14:00:53 <electrohead> well, if you're looking for feedback about the TL866
14:01:59 <electrohead> it has never let me down yet, for the eeproms/etc that I used
14:02:05 <rust_collector> i was asking about any programmer device. you said you like the 866... so that is where that went
14:02:12 <rust_collector> right
14:02:17 <electrohead> right
14:02:44 <rust_collector> so, how about those clamp ones I linked? those would be great
14:03:21 * electrohead viciously slaps rust_collector
14:03:34 <electrohead> how much are you looking to spend?
14:04:35 <rust_collector> meh. it is not something I need right now. but I sort of feel like I should spend a bit more than the ch341 ones, even if those would probably do most of what I need... and they are cheap
14:05:11 <electrohead> Guest|98881: hey, we're around, now
14:06:09 <electrohead> https://www.ebay.com/itm/TL866II-Plus-programmer-TL866-nand-flash-AVR-PIC-Bios-USB-Programmer-adapter/114590783726
14:06:34 <electrohead> I don't have the TL866II plus, I have the TL866C if I recall correctly
14:06:51 <rust_collector> okaay
14:06:55 <electrohead> but, I have the full kit with all of the adapters
14:07:15 <rust_collector> left
14:07:30 <electrohead> ?
14:07:37 <rust_collector> oh, right
14:07:42 <electrohead> lol
14:07:44 <electrohead> goof
14:07:45 <electrohead> :p
14:10:06 <rust_collector> I am not sure how picky those things are. maybe I could get by with just the clip, in most cases. For some reason, I get asked a bit about vw dashboard upgrades... which means enabling the needle sweep when you power up. which is pretty useless, but people seem to like it
14:10:59 <electrohead> needle swap?
14:11:04 <rust_collector> if they want to pay me too much, just to have their fancy non-feature...
14:11:06 <rust_collector> sweep
14:11:20 <electrohead> grr, sorry, sweep*
14:11:30 <rust_collector> you turn the key on, and the needles go to full, and back, like a "self test" looking thing
14:11:36 <electrohead> lol
14:12:20 <electrohead> do you have IC model numbers readily available?
14:12:30 <electrohead> I can look in the database for you, to see if it's supported
14:12:53 <electrohead> which, the minipro program I linked before, supports *a lot*
14:12:54 <rust_collector> uhm, I htink they are st 24 or 25 something. I don't remember that right now
14:13:09 <electrohead> ok
14:13:19 <electrohead> well, regardless, I higly recommend the TL866
14:13:38 <rust_collector> well, that is the thing. I guess it could be worth a bit, to have one that could do some different ones, and be done with it
14:13:53 <rust_collector> yes, thanks
14:14:11 <electrohead> not totally expensive with all of the breakout boards/adapters, and best yet, once you buy it, it's something to add to your collection
14:14:13 <electrohead> :)
14:14:32 <rust_collector> east
14:14:34 <electrohead> (there are SMD breakouts as well)
14:15:09 <electrohead> west
14:15:24 <rust_collector> life is peaceful there
14:15:34 <electrohead> where? the east or west?
14:15:50 <electrohead> brb, going out for a cig
14:16:00 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBjMRvOB5M
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14:25:26 <electrohead> ok, back
14:26:25 <electrohead> I listened to that for a whole 5 seconds
14:26:28 <electrohead> sorry
14:27:04 <Ysjoelfir> woah! pet shop boyzzzz°
14:27:05 <Ysjoelfir> !
14:27:42 <rust_collector> yes
14:27:58 <rust_collector> remember i told you mr head only likes the human thumb?
14:29:33 <electrohead> what does that mean?
14:30:04 <rust_collector> that means you do not like pet shop boys or glan danzig
14:30:10 <rust_collector> glen
14:30:26 <electrohead> not really
14:30:37 <electrohead> just not my style
14:30:55 * electrohead :: Kraftwerk - Computer World
14:30:59 <rust_collector> the human thumb is corpsegrinder, because he looks like a thumb
14:31:05 <electrohead> lol
14:31:24 <electrohead> I like my selection of electronic music as well
14:31:32 <electrohead> ever listen to kraftwerk?
14:31:47 <rust_collector> every now and then
14:37:24 <electrohead> they still tour, heh
14:37:33 <electrohead> you purchase the TL866, yet? :P
14:37:36 <rust_collector> no
14:37:42 <rust_collector> and who?
14:37:55 <electrohead> ?
14:38:03 <rust_collector> is still touring?
14:38:11 <electrohead> kraftwerk still tours
14:38:29 <rust_collector> oooo?
14:38:37 <rust_collector> who replaced the dead guy?
14:40:40 <electrohead> I forget his name off-hand
14:40:42 * electrohead looks
14:41:29 <electrohead> Florian Schneider departed in 2008, but passed away this year
14:42:09 <rust_collector> aha
14:43:05 <electrohead> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falk_Grieffenhagen
14:43:14 <electrohead> he looks to be the replacement for the video sh'tuff
14:43:58 <rust_collector> mmhffkay.
14:44:06 <electrohead> ?
14:44:17 <rust_collector> ok!
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14:50:01 <electrohead> ok
14:50:03 <electrohead> :p
15:01:38 <rust_collector> waffles yet?
15:01:53 <electrohead> no idea, did you make them, yet?
15:02:09 <rust_collector> the kraut was supposed to
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15:02:53 <rust_collector> ok, i guess we can have some old slow rock while we wait...
15:03:00 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFFpb3SZ3k
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15:04:08 <rust_collector> i sort of like that painting he used on the cover. it would be a nice wallpaper. I mean on a wall
15:10:56 <electrohead> 'old slow rock'
15:11:01 <electrohead> fitting :p
15:11:14 <rust_collector> it is one of the slowest songs I can think of
15:11:15 <electrohead> and yeah, that would be pretty cool to have hanging up on a wall
15:12:26 <rust_collector> it is an actual painting. i don't remember who did it, but it was some woman over there on the west coast
15:21:19 <electrohead> ahh
15:21:22 * electrohead offers pork chops
15:22:22 * rust_collector gives electrohead actual cheese
15:27:53 <steve30000> hi
15:28:08 <rust_collector> mornings mr 30K
15:35:49 * T3sl4 pets rust_collector
15:37:48 <rust_collector> hah! i remember this stuff... old people playing old songs. i could hear that from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfmFNTxj3cw
15:38:02 <rust_collector> hi T3sl4
15:38:31 <T3sl4> hi
15:53:11 <rust_collector> oh, this is nice. -1c and rain
15:54:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: WTF, I can't make voice calls on 4G?
15:55:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: WTF, I can't make calls on 4G? https://t.co/qkPDwHQomG
16:09:47 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like nearly snow to me :P
16:25:27 <T3sl4> i have snow idea
16:30:28 Nick: steve30000 is now known as steve30
16:32:04 * steve30 meows at Ysjoelfir
16:33:13 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/oX1YN5K.jpg
16:35:34 <steve30> cookies \o/
16:47:35 <Halcyon> I bags the chilli one
16:48:11 * steve30 makes a cup of coffee
17:00:51 * steve30 curls up around Halcyon
17:00:58 <Halcyon> Silly cat :P
17:01:46 <steve30> *purrs innocently*
17:01:54 <Halcyon> I don't buy your bullshit :P
17:02:17 <steve30> Meow? ;)
17:04:14 <Halcyon> Steve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRhtStLDNs
17:06:31 <steve30> they sound gay
17:06:43 <Halcyon> Brian Alvarez is in real life
17:06:47 <Halcyon> I don't know who the other guy is
17:06:54 <Halcyon> The series he did was hilarious though
17:07:13 <Halcyon> The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo
17:19:42 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should bake some bread
17:20:28 <steve30> good idea
17:26:55 <Halcyon> rust_collector, I made brioche buns yesterday
17:27:16 <rust_collector> hmmm, that is an idea
17:27:29 <steve30> I might go out for a walk soon
17:28:16 <rust_collector> even I thought about going for a walk... maybe make bread, and have a walk while they burn
17:29:10 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeQGgzeSQjI
17:29:11 <Halcyon> These ones
17:29:18 <Halcyon> But I just used whole milk powder
17:34:59 <T3sl4> mmm, bleu
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18:10:02 <T3sl4> made a little risotto
18:13:16 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
18:13:18 <Halcyon> What flavour?
18:17:21 <T3sl4> bleu!
18:17:31 <T3sl4> also mushrooms, onions and peas tossed in
18:17:31 <Halcyon> Cheese?
18:22:52 <T3sl4> yes
18:35:32 <rust_collector> ok, that was one bread made.
18:41:34 <T3sl4> you bread my mind
18:51:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: The Indians are cleverer than the Yanks. :Which was quoting: Channa Prakash: Solar panels on canals in India. Doesn’t take extra land, prevents evaporative loss and keeps the solar panels cool. @reddit https://t.co/qlfbomlqqH
18:55:08 <rust_collector> hm. now the sun is up, so the temps dropped to -5
18:56:59 * steve30 returns from outside
18:59:05 <rust_collector> how was the outside?
19:00:45 <T3sl4> outish, i imagine
19:01:02 <rust_collector> eew
19:04:26 <steve30> quite pleasant actually
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22:02:59 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
22:03:09 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
22:03:12 <Ampera> how are you doing
22:04:04 <Ampera> "The indians are cleverer than the yanks" That has a very different meaning here in the US
22:05:19 <Ampera> ok then
22:05:40 <rust_collector> yes
22:06:04 * Ampera runs rust_collector over with an opel kadet
22:06:21 <rust_collector> HAHA!
22:06:43 <Ampera> ok then
22:06:44 * rust_collector absorbs the rust, and the tires roll by
22:06:55 <Ampera> lol
22:07:02 <Ampera> rust in peace, rust_collector
22:07:33 <rust_collector> thanks. How is this morning over there in new india?
22:07:47 <Ampera> in what
22:08:03 <rust_collector> new... something
22:08:26 <rust_collector> in your location,mr sir
22:09:21 <rust_collector> please allow me to protect your computr mr sir, is very important for safety
22:09:46 * Ampera banishes rust_collector to cleveland
22:10:06 <rust_collector> WOOHOO! where is this?? strange place
22:10:40 <Ampera> it's cleveland "at least we're not detroit" ohio
22:13:16 <rust_collector> oh, awesome. i thought it looked like home
22:14:13 <Ampera> what fucked up shithole do you call home for it to look like cleveland
22:14:34 <rust_collector> old cleveland
22:14:51 * Ampera cleaves rust_collector in twain
22:16:20 <rust_collector> this is a place where we build small "mountains" so we can put a tunnel in a perfectly flat place
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