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08:19 <steve30> quiet
09:33 <Ampera> what food did you buy
09:53 <Ampera> whenever I go shopping I tend to buy quite good food, which sucks, because then I eat it all
09:55 <Ampera> and have to buy more
10:18 <steve30> pasties, fish, biscuits, chocolate, coffee
10:28 <Ampera> what sort of fish
10:58 <steve30> Cod
11:33 <Ampera> nice
28:46 * Ysjoelfir is freezing
32:20 * Ampera insulates Ysjoelfir 
32:24 <Ampera> keep the cold in
32:32 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
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05:26 <Nothing\> man i'm having a hell of a time trying to get codeblocks to work
06:06 <Nothing\> you'd think downloading the one that comes with mingw, it would have mingw in the list of compilers instead of defaulting to gcc for some reason and not listing mingw at all
06:29 <Nothing\> then when i specify the mingw directory for it to search for a compiler, it can't find anything
07:03 <Nothing\> apparently in v20.x there's no way i can tell to specifically tell it where your compiler is. just give it a directory to search for one
15:15 <K> compiler infrastructure for a given arch usually lives in one place
16:38 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
16:50 <Ampera> Nothing\, mingw is not a compiler
17:29 <Ampera> mingw is a POSIX-compatible GNU userland for Windows allowing the installation of gcc
18:00 <Ampera> you need to install mingw/MSYS2 or Cygwin along with the compiler and tools you require
18:21 <Ampera> trust me, it's a pain in the ass on Windows, you're better off using Visual Studio if you're just messing around
28:13 <Nothing\> hey Ampera :D
28:16 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
28:19 <Nothing\> how ya doing?
28:29 <Ampera> Working at the moment, but otherwise fine
28:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, the thing is, the version of codeblocks i downloaded CAME WITH MINGW
28:49 <Nothing\> so you'd think the default options would already have the directories they need
29:02 <Ampera> presumably you'd need to ensure that your mingw environment has gcc and everything installed in it
29:09 <Nothing\> but i can't even figure out if there's a way to just outright tell it where the binary is
29:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, but gcc is a C compiler is it not?
29:29 <Ampera> no
29:39 <Ampera> gcc = GNU Compiler Collection
29:43 <Nothing\> so what's g++?
29:47 <Ampera> part of gcc
29:55 <Nothing\> i see
29:57 <Nothing\> i get it now
29:57 <K> g++ is for C++ language
30:01 <Ampera> gcc is /also/ the binary name for the GNU C Compiler
30:09 <Ampera> but gcc in the context of something you install is a compiler collection
30:24 <Nothing\> ah i see
30:29 <K> yes, remember, Gnu is Not Unix !
30:29 <EEVBlog> Sounds hot, K!
30:34 <K> wot?!?!
30:40 <Ampera> hahaha
30:47 <Nothing\> well i've scoured forums, and settings and compilers and so on
30:51 <Nothing\> and i still can't find a fix
30:57 <Nothing\> maybe i should just use dev bloodshed
30:59 <Ampera> as I said, it's not an easy thing to set up
31:03 <Nothing\> that's always served me well
31:14 <Ampera> visual studio comes with a C toolchain intended for Windows, I suggest you use it
31:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, every other time before now everything was set up right out of installation
31:25 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
31:31 <Nothing\> yeah i don't get it
31:41 <Ampera> I've never used code blocks, and haven't dealt with GNU on windows in about a year
31:58 <Nothing\> i'm not even sure there IS a GCC for windows
32:04 <Ampera> of course there is
32:05 <Nothing\> i think you have to install it through cygwin
32:11 <Ampera> or mingw
32:12 <Nothing\> oh well that's good to know
32:18 <Nothing\> yeah i'd love to use mingw
32:25 <Ampera> mingw and cygwin are two different implementations of the same concept
32:27 <Nothing\> but in the list of compilers to search for, it's not in there
32:34 <Ampera> mingw is not a compiler
32:40 <Nothing\> despite like i said, the version apparently coming with mingw
32:43 <Nothing\> it's not?
32:48 <Ampera> no, never has been, never will
32:58 <Ampera> mingw is a GNU userland for Windows
33:07 <Ampera> which is used to install gcc in an environment capable of supporting it
33:08 <Nothing\> but it used to be listed under the compilers in codeblocks
33:23 <Ampera> what it's likely doing is running its own internal version of mingw with gcc and other compilers pre-installed
33:33 <Nothing\> hrm
33:35 <Ampera> why it's not working is beyond me, as I said I've never used code blocks
33:54 <Ampera> the gcc option is likely intended for an external installation of GCC, likely defined by your PATH variable, or some other config
33:55 <Nothing\> yeah and i'd imagine you're not on windows so what you use probably won't work for me
34:02 <Ampera> I use visual studio
34:06 <Nothing\> ah
34:11 <Nothing\> visual studio's bloated
34:12 <Ampera> I use windows every day
34:28 <Nothing\> last time i used visual studio was before .net came out
34:37 <Nothing\> once that came out, i couldn't stand visual studio anymore
34:40 <Nothing\> but this is with VB
34:46 <Ampera> it's not gotten lighter any bit
34:57 <Ampera> but as I said, it's intended for Windows, it's the native toolkit
34:58 <Nothing\> i can imagine it's probably gotten more bloated
35:14 <Nothing\> not like my computer can't handle it
35:15 <Ampera> I wonder is VS Code can use the microsoft cc
35:26 <Ampera> you might even be able to install the microsoft cc without visual studio
35:32 <Nothing\> did i tell you i can do 120-150fps on maxed out settings in gta v and it still only uses half of my vram
35:40 <Ampera> what does VRAM have to do with it
35:52 <Nothing\> of course i have vsync on so the real framerate's probably a lot lower
36:00 <Ampera> the only important thing about VRAM is having enough, beyond that the quantity has no effect on performance
36:07 <Nothing\> Ampera, cuz as video settings go up, as does vram usage
36:14 <Ampera> if you have vsync on and are measuring 120-150fps, vsync is not on
36:27 <Nothing\> the settings even show you how much vram is required for the settings you put in
36:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah come to think of it, that was before vsync was enabled
36:46 <Ampera> indeed they do, but you were talking about performance
36:50 <Nothing\> but you know what i mean, my tv can't keep up
37:01 <K> get a better tv
37:04 <Nothing\> exactly
37:11 <Nothing\> or monitor
37:23 <Ampera> for some reason nvidia on X on Linux seems to be immune to screen tearing of any sort
37:38 <Ampera> I don't have an adaptive sync monitor, but games seem to operate as if it were, which is bizzare
37:58 <Nothing\> i had this issue in gta v where the pause menu would be so laggy, it'd be unusable at times
38:06 <Nothing\> turned out that's where vsync came in handy
38:28 <Nothing\> always having sub-par hardware, i learned to disable vsync always because it just made everything choppy
38:52 <Nothing\> but it turns out when you have uber-par hardware, vsync does the opposite and smooths things out
39:15 <Ampera> uh
39:23 <Ampera> that's one way to describe it I guess
39:48 <Ampera> all vsync does is lock your FPS to an integer factor of your refresh rate
40:23 <Ampera> the point is to prevent partial frames from being drawn
41:28 <Nothing\> yeah, but back with every other computer i had, it'd just make the game lag to the point of being unplayable
41:39 <Nothing\> so i always got used to immediately disabling it
41:53 <Nothing\> oh Ampera did i tell you
41:56 <Ampera> no
42:13 <Nothing\> i got approved to be on the board of reviewers for The Cureus Journal of Medical Science
42:15 <Nothing\> lolo
42:20 <Ampera> the what
42:29 <Nothing\> it's a peer reviewed medical journal
42:52 <Nothing\> and i'm now one of those "peers" who reviews articles submitted by doctors to validate their credibility
43:11 <Nothing\> and yes, only doctors should be able to do that, which makes me question the validity of this journal and everything in it
43:18 <Ampera> was just about to say
43:22 <Ampera> how did you manage that?
43:47 <Nothing\> lol they just sent me an offer so i decided to see how far i could take it without perjuring myself or committing fraud
43:55 <Nothing\> turned out, all the way, and pretty damn easily too
44:11 <Nothing\> they didn't even check to see if the hospital i work at is real, which it isn't
44:29 <Nothing\> St Michael's Hospital in North Grafton, USA
44:33 <Ampera> wouldn't that constitute perjury?
44:35 <Nothing\> didn't ask for a state
44:53 <Nothing\> not if i don't click anything saying "this information is correct and blah blah blah"
45:03 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
45:12 <Nothing\> actually i remember Ampera
45:17 <Ampera> that's not good
45:18 <Nothing\> way back in the day when internet porn was new
45:24 <Ampera> remembering is bad for you
45:45 <Nothing\> every porn site would have a splash screen before you came onto the main site to verify if you were over 18/19/whatever, right
45:58 <Nothing\> and to scare you it would say that lying would constitute perjury
46:04 <Ampera> I've seen those
46:06 <Nothing\> but can a minor really be charged with perjury?
46:12 <Ampera> why not
46:15 <Nothing\> since a minor can't even sign a contract
46:23 <Nothing\> at least not a legally binding one
46:36 <Ampera> isn't perjury lying under any legal connotation?
46:44 <Nothing\> you'd think a minor wouldn't be able to grasp what being under oath is
47:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, i believe so, but mostly pertains to being under oath
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47:06 <Ampera> I generally did when I skipped those dialogs as a minor watching porn
47:12 <Nothing\> same
47:25 <Nothing\> i still remember the first site i used
47:28 <Ampera> though, I never really watched porn, it was mostly images and erotica
47:31 <Nothing\> celebpics.com
47:42 <Nothing\> it specialized in fakes of celebrities
47:44 * Ampera decides it best not to navigate to that site
47:57 <Ampera> manip porn is always weird
48:20 <Nothing\> cuz i had a huge hardon for geri halliwell, cindy crawford, and tiffany amber-thiessen
48:31 <Nothing\> oh yeah and elle macphearson, phew she was a hotty
48:39 <Nothing\> and let's not forget claudia schiffer
48:43 <Nothing\> SHAWING
48:50 <electrohead> lmfao
48:56 <Nothing\> (that's from wayne's world. it's the sound of wayne's boner"
49:00 <Nothing\> ")
49:13 <electrohead> you need a hyphen in that, otherwise it sounds weird
49:22 <Nothing\> yeah you're right
49:26 <Nothing\> SHA-WING
49:27 <electrohead> :p
49:30 <electrohead> there you go, lol
49:39 <Nothing\> oh yeah now i'm erect lol
49:52 <Nothing\> so that's what i was doing wrong all these years
49:59 * electrohead sprays Nothing\ with cold water
50:02 <Nothing\> no wonder my doctor thought i was sterile
50:12 <Ampera> I need to buy more paper
50:20 <Ampera> keeping up with the list of shit that is wrong with you is getting fucking expensive
50:25 <Ampera> *you people
50:44 <Nothing\> lol
50:54 <Nothing\> would probably be cheaper to list what's NOT wrong with us
50:59 <Nothing\> and easier
51:11 <Ampera> it's really the same problem just in reverse
51:32 <Ampera> though I suppose it would use less paper...
51:47 <Nothing\> i think it's 50% male hormones, 40% the eccentricities that are inevitable with the creative or engineering types and 10% other
52:35 <Ampera> in typical amazon fashion, the clothes I ordered are coming in a million different packages
52:36 <Nothing\> oh yeah, interesting fact i learned the other day
52:42 <Ampera> don't do that
52:46 <Nothing\> you know justin tudeau is only the 3rd in power in canada
52:46 <Ampera> learning is bad for you
52:59 <Nothing\> there are 2 other people who are above him in the hierarchy of parliament
53:05 <Ampera> I know the first is the queen
53:05 <Nothing\> one obviously being the queen
53:15 <Nothing\> yeah, and then the second is the governor general
53:18 <Ampera> aye
53:26 <Ampera> was just about to ask if Canada had a royally appointed governor
53:34 <Nothing\> who is like, some representative of england appointed by the queen under the advise of the prime minister
53:45 <K> governor general is the one keeping colonies in line
53:50 <Nothing\> yeah i never knew what that guy did until recently
54:03 <Ampera> whenever I read about justin trudeau I always think about him doing blackface
54:05 <Nothing\> i know there's at least one governor general on our money
54:14 <Nothing\> i'm sure i've seen the title
54:14 <Ampera> if our president did that here, he'd be fucking lynched
54:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, lolo it was brown face
54:36 <Ampera> ok
54:43 <Nothing\> and i don't think he'd get lynched
55:00 <Ampera> no I'm sure he would
55:11 <Nothing\> i mean, trump outright called veterans, including dead ones "suckers"
55:16 <Nothing\> and people still kept sucking his dick
55:19 <Nothing\> including veterans
55:26 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
55:28 <Ampera> Trump said a lot of shit
55:40 <Nothing\> GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY!
55:58 <Nothing\> i bet LBJ had all sorts of weird quotes like that
56:21 <Nothing\> you ever hear about his antics with his penis?
56:34 <Ampera> no and I'd rather not
56:47 <Nothing\> how he used to like just randomly whipping it out in inappropriate situations
56:52 <Nothing\> and even pissed on an aide once
56:57 <Ampera> what did I just say
57:20 <Ampera> whatever, no big deal
57:25 <Nothing\> hey, compared to trump i think it's pretty clean
57:48 <Ampera> have yet to hear of trump whipping it out in inappropriate situations, but I didn't usually pay that close attention to him
58:01 <Nothing\> i've gotta say though, as messed up as this trump thing's been. it certainly has been interesting.
58:10 <Nothing\> and it'll be interesting to see what the future brings as a result
58:19 <Ampera> The main issue with the Trump presidency was the media inflating everything he did
58:23 <Ampera> not saying he did no wrong
58:29 <Ampera> but man was he a cash cow for the news
58:45 <Nothing\> of course, the news feeds on shit like this
58:54 <Nothing\> and i mean literal shit, cuz that's what it basically amounts to
59:01 <Ampera> For as much wrong as he did, it was the news who gave him the power to become the monster he was
59:15 <Nothing\> i thought it was the russians
59:25 <Ampera> If they hadn't placed him on such a national stage as they did, he would never have gotten so popular
59:26 <Nothing\> lol
59:41 <Nothing\> yeah, and twitter shoulda banned his account a long time ago
59:51 <Ampera> The Russian conspiracy was simply the democrat's 2016 version of the votes were rigged
00:34 <Ampera> I'm of many minds about twitter banning accounts for politicians, ultimately it's their own platform, but I'd consider them a trust in terms of the communications sector
00:45 <Ampera> an entity powerful enough to cause serious political change and harm with no oversight
00:49 <Nothing\> oh yeah i forgot, earlier today i found out there's a recut of star wars episode 1 with all of the jar jar antics and politics and exposition and basically everything that made the movie bad removed
01:03 <Nothing\> it seemed to get pretty good reviews, and they only had to cut 17 minutes
01:10 <Ampera> As much as it might have been deserved, the blanket banning of Trump on his way out sets a dangerous precedent for the media being able to silence politicians
01:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah it seems they want to do the opposite because it's advantageous for them
02:04 <Nothing\> they just want to egg him on, give him the spotlight that he craves
02:13 <Nothing\> that he sustains himself with
02:28 <Ampera> On the bright side, him being on his way out, and now deplatformed, means that the media won't have their cash cow anymore
02:38 <Ampera> and I doubt they'll be able to squeeze just as much national strife out of the biden presidency
02:42 <Nothing\> it's like if you see a shitty youtube channel, you don't link to it to get them more votes
02:59 <Nothing\> er views
03:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, plus not being POTUS anymore leaves him open to criminal charges
04:01 <Ampera> Filing charges against him is a risky move. Whoever does it needs to be confident he doesn't have enough public support to cause a serious problem of it
04:03 <Nothing\> i don't see the point of removing him from office at this point though, so close to the end
04:48 <Ampera> I get the impression it's a, because we don't like him, move from the democrats. He's visible lost much of his support from the republican party, but I don't get the same sense of fire and brimstone against him from them
04:53 <Ampera> *visibly
05:16 <Ampera> in general, I was never all that worried about Trump, and I'm still not
05:17 <Nothing\> no not at all
05:25 <Nothing\> it's just a quiet distancing, like you said
05:30 <Nothing\> no condemnation or anything
05:43 <Nothing\> actually a few of the people who broke into the capitol building were politicians
06:01 <Ampera> There's multiple facets to that attitude. For some, it's egg on their face on a public stage. For some it's the way the wind is blowing.
06:35 <Nothing\> indeed, like any matter of this complexity there is obviously no one singular cause
06:43 <Nothing\> to say so would be short sighted and dangerous
07:22 <Ampera> It's nigh obnoxious how simplistic the common media view is on the Trump presidency, especially now
07:25 <Nothing\> why on earth did i just get a mental image of trump getting a foley catheter
07:39 <Nothing\> that's a weird ass random image to have pop into my mind
07:45 <Nothing\> amusing, but weird
07:49 <Ampera> international news syndicators like the AP are likely in part to blame, but there is a lot of oversimplification and easy claims being thrown around
08:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's because people like their news simple
08:10 <Nothing\> they don't want to think, they want to be thought for
08:22 <Nothing\> and anything that has more than one or two causes requires thought to process
09:07 <Nothing\> anywho, it's genuinely been nice discussing politics in a level headed manner for once but i think i'm gonna play some gta v for a bit
09:14 <Ampera> It'd be fine if the news had ethics.
09:16 <Nothing\> thanks again for taking my mind off of my troubles
09:21 <Ampera> Have fun
09:32 <Nothing\> even if that wasn't my intention, this conversation did a nice job of it
09:46 <Nothing\> yeah, take care man
09:55 <Ampera> It's a shame other people can't have calm, civil political conversations
09:59 <Ampera> when they exist, they can be quite nice
10:23 <Nothing\> it's a shame the world's gone to shit so badly in the last 20 years
10:32 <Nothing\> especially the last 10
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13:00 <rust_collector> mornings
14:39 <Ampera> good morning rust_collector
14:42 <Ampera> how are you doing
15:27 <rust_collector> not bad. I got a good sleep, and it does not hurt much, good times
15:47 <rust_collector> so, now I am late, but..
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46:10 <Halcyon> Morning all
48:48 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
48:52 <Ampera> how are you do Halcyon
50:57 <Halcyon> Meh
51:01 <Halcyon> Going to work
51:03 <Halcyon> The usual
51:14 <Ampera> Halcyon, want to do a call?
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51:34 <Halcyon> Yeh, give me 10?
51:43 <Halcyon> I'll call you on Signal
52:03 <Ampera> sure
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00:37 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ4jGc_rps5/?igshid=145q7aq04e5vu
25:27 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo! \o/
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34:08 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I started building the heated motorbike handle inserts. it worked great, though the short travel of my lathes tailstock is annoying xD
35:13 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
39:17 * Ysjoelfir pokes electrohead with his beloved pointy stick while convincing himself to start cooking
39:43 <electrohead> lol
39:47 <electrohead> hey o/
41:00 <Ysjoelfir> hi :)
41:07 * Ysjoelfir moves to the kitchen. slowly.
41:17 * Ysjoelfir takes the cat witzh him
52:03 * Ampera hugs electrohead
52:36 * electrohead hugs Ampera
57:10 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
13:30 <electrohead> I'm doing, you?
14:25 <Ampera> making hot dogs and fries
15:06 * electrohead invites himself over
15:08 <electrohead> :p
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20:34 <rc-horse> morning.......
23:01 <rc-horse> morning.......
24:11 <rc-horse> no, no.. ok
34:58 <Ysjoelfir> hey rusty
35:15 <rc-horse> hola
35:17 <Ysjoelfir> rc-horse, I started the heated motorcycle handle inserts. :)
35:45 <rc-horse> and no funny videos?
36:59 <Ysjoelfir> nah. nothing special, just two alumuminimumium rounds with a hole and a heater cartridge glued inside. tried it inside on a spare handle, works great!
37:27 <rc-horse> so, now you have to ride all winter, to work out the bugs from your technical contraption
37:44 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
37:55 <rc-horse> sound good
38:32 <rc-horse> remember that they also fit snow blowers and other things with handles
39:17 <Ysjoelfir> great idea :D
39:28 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lb9NUEh1svfkVfRJhxYFLbQbI7MAvb8m/view?usp=sharing pics of the prototypes while waiting for the glue to hardewn
40:51 <rc-horse> good luck shipping that on a plane
41:00 <Ysjoelfir> xD
41:07 <Ysjoelfir> my initial thought was as well: pipe bomb
41:21 * Ysjoelfir enjoys a grog
41:27 <rc-horse> optional feature
41:55 <Ysjoelfir> the pipe bomb or a inbuilt grog dispenser?
42:03 <rc-horse> yes
43:05 <rc-horse> as long as you can use them to heat your tea and noodles, on the road
43:29 <Ysjoelfir> maybe?^^
44:37 <rc-horse> nah, but i guess a biker kettle could be a thing
46:33 <Ysjoelfir> I think there is such a thing. :)
47:00 <rc-horse> you can buy handle heaters as well
47:06 <Ysjoelfir> true
49:32 <Ysjoelfir> I am pretty thrilled how well this system works. I should look up a manufacturer who can produce the metal parts as that takes a considerable amount of time on my mini lathe :P
49:52 <rc-horse> i should see if the blower works tomorrow. i bet tje carb is full of ice, and i doubt it has stopped havimg a flat tire
50:07 <rc-horse> uh yes.
50:09 <Ysjoelfir> probably not ;)
51:22 <rc-horse> making blanks should be quick dor someone with a real lathe, then you can do any custom stuff yourself
51:54 <rc-horse> so, how cold is it there now?
52:20 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/a/fubIo
52:45 <rc-horse> is miss k angry about you testimg heaters in the fridge?
53:13 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I had in mind. get someone to make the round pieces, drill a 6mm hole in it, cut a sunk M8 on the other (for the clamping you suggested). I would then just have to put in the heating element, cut the clamp part and done.
53:50 <Ysjoelfir> its -2 around here atm. but I like the Idea testing it in the fridge :)
54:10 <rc-horse> my beer is too cold
54:45 <rc-horse> ok i have a guy trying to hook up hos trailer
54:53 <rc-horse> 8 times now
55:27 <Ysjoelfir> lo9l DHess_US :P
55:38 <Ysjoelfir> rc-horse - your workmate can't do it?^^
55:55 <rc-horse> npt even the same company
56:13 <Ysjoelfir> ah. thought you were on the trip with the other guy
56:33 <rc-horse> no, he is back to be on sick leave
56:54 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a plan
57:10 <rc-horse> ok, 12 tries, and he is away
58:56 <Ysjoelfir> XD
58:59 <rc-horse> ok, one dock os feee, i think i will take it
59:07 <rc-horse> have fun
59:14 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :D
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36:13 <electrohead> DHess_US: lmao
53:27 * Ysjoelfir Grogs electrohead
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15:40 <rust_collector> hotdogs. could be worse
18:52 <T3sl4> stay chili
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56:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: The Amp Hour Podcast: Brian Faith of @QuickLogic_Corp joins @Chris_Gammell to talk about how QuickLogic FPGAs now officially use Symbiflow for design. They also discuss @SensiML, a platform to create flexible, low power devices for machine learning applications. https://t.co/6UFGb6eO37 https://t.co/Xtd0IBtzMI
59:22 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics: The legend https://t.co/GrxqmtHlrf
42:56 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/5pf478hhosa61.png
43:59 <rust_collector> oh cool! you can see the little person operating that, inside the eyes
44:08 <rust_collector> very clever machine
02:57 <rust_collector> ok
03:38 <rust_collector> in what chinese zoo did they display a large hairy dog in stead of a lion, in 2013?
11:08 <T3sl4> dunno. sounds more like dinner
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19:08 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.redd.it/2d15mmm24sa61.jpg
27:28 <steve30> hi
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00:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Yes, the rumors are true, @ElectroBOOMGuy is now on Odysee! @OdyseeTeam Is he now the biggest Youtuber to come over at 4.1M subs? https://t.co/fxmGqjGThk
04:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: LBRY: LBRY is an alternative to YouTube in the same way the internet was an alternative to newspapers
37:44 <Halcyon> T3sl4: Stupid rat
37:56 <T3sl4> :P
39:37 <steve30> hi Halcyon
40:54 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
41:13 <steve30> I've got a doctors appointment tomorrow, but its forecast rain :(
58:44 <Halcyon> Oh no :(
08:12 * steve30 snuggles up to Halcyon 
17:57 <Halcyon> \o/
23:48 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
24:21 <Halcyon> Aww affection all around
24:29 <Ampera> how are you doing friend
24:29 <Halcyon> Sorry was outside moving the sprinkler
24:34 <Halcyon> Yeh doing OK
24:35 <Halcyon> You?
24:41 <Ampera> Fairly good
25:02 <Halcyon> I've created a "Licensing" dataset on my NAS... just trying to work out how to structure the folders
25:10 <Ampera> Licensing?
25:22 <Halcyon> I want to separate out the license keys and such from my Software share
25:35 <Ampera> why
25:44 <Halcyon> So everyone has access to the software itself, but not necessarily the serials and keyfiles
25:59 <Ampera> couldn't you just reduce permissions on the serial files?
26:08 <Halcyon> Eh, too messy to maintain
26:22 <Halcyon> Then if I ever forget and recursively apply permissions, I undo all that work
26:55 <Ampera> what you can then potentially do is symlink to those files. I think you might be able to do it in a away where you can't set permissions on anything but the original
27:10 <Halcyon> Yeh I could do that too
27:11 <Ampera> so you can still have the simplicity of the files just being right there
27:40 <Ampera> either that, or write a cron job that occasionally resets the permissions of all files you want to be restricted
28:01 <Halcyon> But yeh at the moment, my serial keys are in the same folder as the ISOs and install files and some of it is personal issue (or licensed to the Government)
28:01 <Ampera> for example, if all your licenses are in .serial files you can have a cron recurse over the software dir on a schedule and always set the permissions back
29:06 <Ampera> https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDuSNQf823A I'm listening to songs about the ghetto
29:22 <Ampera> like a proper rebel >:)
30:43 <Halcyon> Most of them are text files, some of them registry keys, others are some proprietary key/cert thingy
31:58 <Ampera> good fucking lord
32:06 <Halcyon> What?
32:09 <Ampera> German politicians never cease to be enigmas
32:31 <Ampera> not sure if you heard Angela Merkel getting upset at Twitter permabanning Trump
32:33 <Halcyon> Well.... I was going to say they invented the Engima, but that's not correct
32:39 <Halcyon> I think the British invented it?
32:58 <Ampera> that's the sort of historical knowledge I expect from someone who thought Texas might be part of Mexico
33:03 <Halcyon> I thought Angela Merkel was a type of fish
33:27 <Halcyon> Or is that Mackarel... confusion :P
33:28 <Ampera> Good to see the Australian military is doing well on its state sponsored weaponized stupidity program.
33:54 <Halcyon> The ADF stole it from the Americans. We wanted to make sure it worked properly before we used it on our citizens :P
34:14 <Ampera> What's fucking sad, though, is, via Slashdot, "Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech "can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature -- not according to a corporate decision.""
34:49 <Ampera> I'm gonna give him a pass on wording, because this was probably translated, and the quote is not complete
34:53 <Ampera> but the notion is still fucking sad
36:07 <Ampera> At least I can meet with them half way on communications trusts shouldn't be allowed to infringe on political expression, especially from elected officials
36:52 <Halcyon> I'm thinking about re-organising my Software share too, to be in-line with my hardware/drivers share... i.e.: Brand\Model\Version
37:28 <K> hello beans
37:46 <Halcyon> But I wonder if splitting up Software by Brand/Developer makes it more complicated
37:58 <Halcyon> Since most people know the Product, not the Brand
38:12 <Ampera> hey Halcyon, I found a picture of you at work
38:13 <Ampera> https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/01/moody-police.jpeg?quality=90&strip=all
38:22 <Halcyon> :P
38:33 <Halcyon> That is one ugly car
38:52 <Ampera> what's wrong with it
38:58 <Halcyon> It's ugly?
38:59 <Ampera> I mean it's not gorgeous, but it's a normal police car
40:14 <Halcyon> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9daed1221c9ddc5af3ebc39778d9e7d1?width=650
40:17 <Halcyon> Ours look nicer
40:26 <Halcyon> Except they are getting rid of the Chrysler's... they are crap
42:35 <Ampera> Your look like discount matchbox
42:48 <Ampera> with the cheapest chinese decals possible :P
43:12 <Halcyon> I think they are printed locally, at great cost
43:54 <Ampera> at least it's better than the hatchbacks the UK police scoot around in
45:09 <Halcyon> And these are for transporting prisoners: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/exterior-view-kings-cross-police-station-cars-front-sydney-australia-th-december-nsw-137004667.jpg
45:49 <Ampera> Aren't all your vehicles technically for transporting prisoners?
46:01 <Ampera> I mean australian vehicles in general
46:06 <Halcyon> Sedans are a last resort because they are not fitted with cages
46:12 <Halcyon> Oh har har
46:13 <Halcyon> :P
46:28 <Halcyon> And I think you mean convicts :P
46:53 <Ampera> you're the one who said prisoners
47:08 <Halcyon> And by prisoners, I mean black people... I mean offenders
47:15 <Halcyon> (For those reading, I am actually joking)
47:48 <Ampera> if you made that joke as a cop here they'd have a new ornament, impaled firmly on a steel spike, in the center of the city
48:32 <Halcyon> Ornament?
49:27 <Ampera> Yeah, like someone's head on a plaque, except still alive, and impaled
50:04 <Ampera> although, now that I think of it, you may be a fan of a good impaling...
50:31 * steve30 meows at his empty coffee cup
51:05 * Ampera fills steve30's coffee cup with incandescent hot perc coffee made on the finest full thrust gas stove
06:40 <Halcyon> Mmmm thrust
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08:20 * Halcyon noms on a cheese sammich
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21:37 <steve30> i'm tired
22:35 <K> what is "hot perc coffee" ?
23:47 <Ampera> K, percolators are a type of stovetop coffee makers that make coffee by boiling water up a tube onto a basket of grounds
24:04 <Ampera> They're famous for making oppressively hot, burnt coffee.
24:35 <Ampera> Usually preferred by older people who grew up with nothing but perc coffee, my great grandfather loved it.
27:51 <K> ah.
58:10 * Halcyon licks Ampera
58:21 <Ampera> <3
58:22 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
58:47 <Ampera> I've decided I'm gonna do a thing and take a picture of me every day as I start transitioning.
59:12 <Halcyon> I like that idea
01:56 <Ampera> it's cliche, but I genuinely want to have an indication of progress
06:19 <K> eating with cutlery is cliche too
07:53 <Halcyon> How else do you eat K ?
08:07 <Halcyon> Chopsticks are cutlery too
08:24 <Ampera> android is dumb
08:36 <Ampera> I sent it an ssh key over bluetooth and it refused to take it unless it had a file extension
08:48 <Halcyon> Your phone is dumb
09:30 <K> i eat directly from newspaper sheet, no hands involved
09:31 <Halcyon> Actually speaking of Bluetooth and crazy... I wonder if BluetoothOverWAN is a thing
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09:36 <Halcyon> Where you can Bluetooth me things
11:01 <Ampera> why would you want to do that
11:07 <Halcyon> Because?
11:11 <Halcyon> Shits and giggles
11:14 <Ampera> bluetooth is a terrible terrible mess of a standard when it's used for what it's intended
11:21 <Halcyon> Yes, yes it is
11:38 <Halcyon> But it would be cool to encapsulate Bluetooth packets over IP to the other side of the world
11:40 <Ampera> bluetooth is, as far as I know, packet based, with a structure at least somewhat similar to ethernet, so it might be easy
12:05 <Halcyon> For no other reason but to say that you can
12:13 <Halcyon> For example stream audio to a Bluetooth speaker here :P
12:41 <Ampera> The thing is, when you do things "to say that you can", they're usually cool but useless things
12:43 <Ampera> bluetooth is just a plague
13:00 <Ampera> it's almost worse than it simply not existing in its own right
13:15 <Halcyon> Well NFC then, it would be like Stargate
13:25 <Halcyon> Put your phone on a pad and it transmits across the world
13:37 <Ampera> I'll put you on a pad
14:04 <Halcyon> :P
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23:17 <K> wrong order of operations detected!
23:28 * Ampera licks K
23:38 <K> *core dumped*
23:44 <DogWomble> Kernel Panic
23:51 * Ampera meditates guruly
23:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I wonder, are there more possible game combinations in scrabble or chess?
24:26 <Halcyon> Awww cute ducks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1AvW773kM
24:57 <Ampera> I'd imagine scrabble, as there are more possible pieces, far more tiles, and a particularly diverse tree of iterations
25:04 <DogWomble> You heard it here first. Halcyon has finally gone quackers
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27:05 <Ampera> he's been quackier than a quaker for ages
36:40 <K> are quakers particulary cray-cray?
36:46 <K> just odd, no?
36:55 <Halcyon> :P
36:55 <Ampera> I've never met one, they are not common.
41:40 <DogWomble> but do you have cheese with your quackers?
43:10 <K> borderline racis joke eh
45:02 <Halcyon> Mmm cheese
45:13 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm off to bed guys
45:26 <Halcyon> Well... guys and Ampera
45:37 * Ampera smacks Halcyon 
45:41 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
45:43 <Halcyon> Love you too :)
17:39 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
17:54 * Halcyon sleepily hugs Ysjoelfir 
18:11 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir, how are you doing?
19:02 <Ysjoelfir> cold
20:26 <Ampera> I haven't been programing professionally for very long, but I'm already enjoying seeing old comments from myself
20:28 <Ampera> "//Very messy dynamic UI resizing function, tread if you dare, modify if you're insane."
41:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol :) nice, sounds like me
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08:45 <K> shit-flippers
08:53 <K> aka brown-nosed-dolphins
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29:57 <Ysjoelfir> ew
32:39 <K> you don't like dolphins, Ysjoelfir?
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> pesky little critters
35:13 <K> eatin all the fish!
40:49 <Ysjoelfir> And all the licqorice!
41:27 <Ampera> ARTICHOKE
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42:06 <Ysjoelfir> that killed him
42:18 <Ampera> killed who
44:30 <Ampera> certs renewed
44:35 <Ysjoelfir> ah
44:39 <K> how can we know?
44:51 <Ampera> K, get TLS info for https://amperaa.net
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