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17:17 <Nothing\> what's up with this when I came in here?
17:20 <Nothing\> * Received a CTCP TIME from incognito.or.us.austnet.org
17:56 <Nothing\> i mean, i'm not paranoid or anything. It just seems an odd thing for a channel ctcp time me
18:22 <Nothing\> did that work?
18:27 <Ampera> the hugs?
18:28 <Ampera> I hope so
18:30 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
18:36 <K> the thugs never sleep
18:36 <Nothing\> no, my ctcp i sent you
18:40 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
18:43 <Ampera> no, but you're not authenticated
18:45 <Ampera> you need to register
18:51 <Nothing\> i've never registered lol
19:11 <Ampera> austnet is stupid and bans any CTCP or PMs from unregistered to registered users
19:27 <Nothing\> ah i see
20:02 <Nothing\> but yeah i remember on mirc you could do /ctcpreply time 1 and it would return your time as being some ridiculously high number
20:15 <Nothing\> maybe the number of seconds since jan 1 1970, come to think of it
20:37 <Nothing\> er no wait it wasn't time
20:47 <Nothing\> it was something to do with how long you were idle, that's it
21:33 <Nothing\> but anyways, it was fun to confuse people with it and have newbs see a message that you've been idle for thousands of days longer than the server's even existed
23:47 <Nothing\> man, covid's getting close to me
24:21 <Nothing\> i just found out an employee at the grocery store my mom, brother and i use had it and last worked dec 30, so i told my mom we're not to go in there until the 15th
24:52 <Nothing\> but that's just based off of a list that ONE chain posted, who knows what's going on with the other chains
27:28 <Ampera> going to have chinese takeout tonight
30:27 <coppice> I won't be taking my Chinese out tonight
32:29 <K> why not?
33:25 <coppice> lockdown..... and she's currently 9000km away
33:43 <Ampera> she's already out then
34:11 <K> https://scontent.frix4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135756242_736999693611841_6452011695772804725_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=DWRLGpeBDlsAX8cMAL1&_nc_ht=scontent.frix4-1.fna&oh=225d1ad086707a0cf0175ef8a2c0e803&oe=601CFA42
34:50 <Ampera> I wouldn't want to try to take that ring off his thumb
35:18 <coppice> I just hope she can still return to the UK on the 19th will all the new lockdown measures
36:14 <Ampera> for whatever it's worth from a random cretin on the internet, I wish the best of luck to the both of you
44:19 <Nothing\> coppice, i'd imagine now that they're finding that new strain pretty much everywhere, the lockdown will end soon
45:01 <Nothing\> oh man i was talking to this guy at the methadone clinic yesterday who was trying to tell me covid isn't real
45:12 <Nothing\> and that the masks are what's making people sick
45:26 <Nothing\> which, if that's the case then why were people getting sick before the masks were mandatory?
45:35 <coppice> Nothing\: they new lockdown is BECAUSE of the new strain. Its running quickly through parts of the UK. So far people can still fly in from abroad
45:42 <Nothing\> i dunno, either way my tongue was bleeding from biting it too hard after that one
46:21 <Nothing\> coppice, yeah but they've found the new strain in other places now. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's a lot more widespread than they realize
46:41 <Nothing\> perhaps even as much as cov-2 classic
46:59 <Nothing\> i'm just waiting for it to mutate and gain resistance to the vaccines
47:13 <Nothing\> WHO is predicting it'll probably end up becoming an endemic disease
47:42 <coppice> they seem think one of the current mutants in the UK is already immune to at least one of the vaccines
47:50 <Nothing\> yeah actually
48:02 <Nothing\> i heard the same about a variant in south africa, which may be the same one
48:19 <Nothing\> i was reluctant to mention it cuz i'm fuzzy on the details, much less where i read it
48:34 <coppice> you can't beat quickly mutating virii with vaccines. you can only slow them a but
48:42 <Nothing\> yup
48:52 <Nothing\> it's not like that game, Pandemic. if you've ever played that
49:04 <coppice> flu vaccines are mostly performative
49:10 <Nothing\> where as soon as they develop a vaccine, it's rapidly deployed and within months the world is rid of your disease
50:00 <Nothing\> i mean, you can mutate your disease to make it harder to develop a vaccine, but once that vaccine's developed it's game over.
50:29 <Nothing\> i can't help but wonder how many people are still playing that game
50:42 <coppice> Jenner was amazingly lucky, tackling a disease where vaccines worked brilliantly. That's still one of the few diseases to have been totally eradicated
50:42 <Nothing\> i wonder how/where i could get stats on that
51:02 <Nothing\> small pox or rinderpest?
51:08 <coppice> smallpox
51:11 <Nothing\> ah
51:17 <Nothing\> everyone forgets rinderpest
52:09 <Nothing\> oh, rinderpest was only eradicated in 2011, no wonder
52:22 <Nothing\> and i don't believe it affected humans
52:29 <coppice> people are forgetting about smallpox
52:41 <Nothing\> my mom has a smallpox vaccine scar
53:01 <Nothing\> i never realized how different the vaccination against smallpox is compared to other diseases
53:46 <coppice> It was close enough to kickstart the whole vaccine business
53:51 <Nothing\> they just kinda poke you with a double tipped needle with the vaccine on it. a while later a single smallpock appears, runs its course and then leaves the characteristic scar
54:46 <Nothing\> but damn smallpox was a horrible disease to have
55:04 <Nothing\> it's amazing anyone survived, from the sounds of the symptoms and the pictures i've seen of people with it
55:05 <K> i have the scar too
55:38 <Nothing\> K, is that cuz you're older?
55:42 <K> maybe
55:49 <K> also postussr
55:52 <Nothing\> like, i always wondered why some people have smallpox vaccines and some don't
55:59 <coppice> most vaccines rapidly change. When I was a kid and had part of the first shipment of polio vaccine in the UK it was measured into a syringe, and squirted onto a cube of sugar that we ate. Between approving and manufacturing the vaccine, and getting it distributed they found it gets into you just fine when you swallow it
56:03 <Nothing\> yeah like europeans seem to have them a lot more
56:04 <K> was madatory here
56:08 <K> dunno about now
56:12 <Nothing\> i think my mom got her's when she came over from germany
56:24 <Nothing\> or while in germany
56:56 <coppice> Nothing\: we all had smallpox vaccine when I was a kid, but now its declared extinct nobody takes it
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58:17 <Nothing\> coppice, actually just after the 9/11 attacks they started vaccinating military and government officials in fear that terrorists would use it as a bio-weapon
58:44 <Nothing\> if i recall correctly, 100,000 people were vaccinated, but given how long it is i'd take thta number with a large chunk of salt
59:05 <Nothing\> and then go to the hospital immediately for the inevitably hypernatremia you'll inevitably suffer
59:14 <Nothing\> *inevitable
59:44 <Nothing\> dammit i did that thing where i repeated the same word twice in a sentence. AND i misspelled it the same.
59:48 * Nothing\ facepalms
04:22 <electrohead> from the military, I have enough shots to last a lifetime
04:25 <electrohead> heh
05:02 <Nothing\> electrohead, do they ever actually tell you what they're giving you?
05:07 <Nothing\> actually, i wouldn't trust them anyways
05:08 <electrohead> yes
05:14 <coppice> I don't think military grade vaccine increases the length of time for which it is effective
05:19 <Nothing\> you ever hear about how the UK tested sarin on its own troops?
05:31 <Nothing\> they were being told it was part of a program to vaccinate them against the common cold
05:43 <electrohead> coppice: I was implying, that I have received many, many shots over the course of the years I was in
05:50 <Nothing\> at least one person died after they continually kept increasing the doses being given
06:06 <Nothing\> despite very alarming signs and several people already almost losing their lives
06:24 <coppice> Nothing\: there are many stories of the military in many countries testing all sorts of weapon and medical things on their own people
06:32 <Nothing\> coppice, oh for sure
06:50 <Nothing\> look at the US/USSR testing nuclear weapons on its own people
07:09 <Nothing\> that famous video of those US troops standing directly under a nuclear detonation
07:26 <electrohead> being told what you are given is one thing, but them lying about it, is another; sure, I have records to show what I received, but for all I know, it could have been that + something else
07:30 <electrohead> but, hey.. I'm still alive
07:33 <Nothing\> or the other of US troops being in a trench a couple of KM from ground zero, then being made to walk into the fallout zone
07:55 <Nothing\> or the countless tests and processing facilities and so on the soviets used near civilian populations
08:13 <Nothing\> oh yeah, then there's ivy mike and those poor islanders
08:21 <Nothing\> but that wasn't exactly planned
08:45 <Nothing\> and the japanese fishing boat that was also caught in the fallout
09:44 <Nothing\> i couldn't imagine what one of those people on the island or the boat woulda thought when they saw that shot go off
10:40 <Nothing\> i'm sure the japanese mighta recognized it for what it was given hiroshima and nagasaki, and the islanders might have a clue it's linked to all of the military activity they no doubt saw
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11:25 <Nothing\> but then there's the fact that it was 1000 times more powerful than little boy/fat man
11:38 <Nothing\> in any case, it would have been terrifying no doubt
11:54 <Nothing\> i'm surprised nobody got blinded by the initial flash
12:06 <Nothing\> heya MRiddickW
12:09 <Nothing\> how's it going?
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29:16 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeDIs0xXgAIsAC-.jpg
38:37 <coppice> nice one
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05:40 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
06:47 <K> have you changed continents, Ysjoelfir?
06:57 <Ysjoelfir> well.. ok
07:01 <Ysjoelfir> aftermornings!
07:29 <K> ok
07:36 <K> aftermornings to you too.
10:25 <Ysjoelfir> I got a delivery of a new (to me) kind of LED incandescent filament immitation style lightbulb
11:13 <K> pics or it didn't happen
11:30 <Ysjoelfir> its not made to be bright, but more to be a kind of... mood light or ambient illumination kind of thing. its only 1W (=.5W measured) and I would say its equivalent to a 10W incandescent bulb
11:37 <Ysjoelfir> pic is uploading, one sec :P
12:01 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kuK_3Tu_CPBKv-3UO-aF_yfaAZNS4hIq/view?usp=sharing
12:52 <K> for wc at night
13:01 <K> looks nice yea
13:18 <Ysjoelfir> that would be great for night illumination, yes. it is not blinding at all
13:26 <Ysjoelfir> and its actually such a simple construction
14:23 <Ysjoelfir> they basically use a realy orange/amber colored LED in the base which has a piece of plastic on top that has little "grooves" lasered into it in this swivel pattern
14:41 <Ysjoelfir> add a screw on glass dome, done
24:05 <K> whacha gonna do with them?
25:27 <rust_collector> hmm, so it is a bit like the fake nixie tubes?
25:48 <K> completely fake!
30:04 <rust_collector> so, mornings!
33:48 <Ysjoelfir> yep, same principle as with the fake nixies. also, mornings rusty
34:17 <Ysjoelfir> K: I'll be using that one in my nightstand lamp thing, as a reading light to not bother mrs. spouse when we're in bed
37:10 <coppice> I don't understand how they get the heat out of those LED incandescent filament style bulbs
38:12 <Ysjoelfir> this one just doesn't get very warm at all. the "normal" filament style LED bulbs sink the heat over the socket
38:13 <K> the whole 0.5 watts?
38:29 <K> 0.5 watts for the surface are of whole thing is pretty small, in my mind
39:03 <Ysjoelfir> yep, for this one its obviously just not a thing at all. I think coppice was refering to the older style filament led bulbs
39:21 <K> Ysjoelfir, is it 220V?
39:29 <Ysjoelfir> like those https://led-homeshop.de/media/image/63/41/f7/spectrum-e27-led-filament-leuchtmittel-11-watt-1500-1550-lumen-14363.jpg
39:33 <Ysjoelfir> 230, yes
40:15 <K> then psu prolly heats up more than fillament eh
40:23 <Ysjoelfir> yep
40:38 <K> 11 wats is not awfully lot either
40:43 <Ysjoelfir> the socket gets... warm. but not hot at all
40:57 <Ysjoelfir> nope, but on those the socket gets REALY hot if used for a long time
41:27 <rust_collector> i wonder if some chinese test tubes from internet, and some old bulb bases... and... things. I think that could be a nice project, if you wanted a custom lightbulb
41:36 <coppice> K: The ones I have looked at are more than 1W per strip. 1W from narrow strip dangling in a place with seriously restricted air flow should be warming up a lot
42:01 <K> hm
42:10 * hsn is trying to be qa now .. https://snipboard.io/goHNQ4.jpg
42:28 <K> maybe they spec the led parts just to be a little more durable than psu
42:47 <hsn> my Job description: he will do everything !
43:12 <hsn> im 27 yrs and i have white hair .
43:30 <K> kindergarten
43:36 <rust_collector> hsn, at least you have hair...
43:41 <K> yea
43:45 <hsn> rust_collector, u have a point
43:52 <hsn> imagine sun hits me bald
44:02 <hsn> hsn the grills head
44:11 <K> white reflects more, it is for the better!
44:15 <rust_collector> i think it is too late to worry about that
44:18 <K> haha
45:07 <hsn> or .. better .. theSizzlingHsn
45:18 <Ysjoelfir> XD
45:27 * Ysjoelfir adds some oil to hsns head
45:33 <hsn> tzzzzzz
45:37 <hsn> :D
45:50 <rust_collector> I just had an expedition around the house, touching led lamps
46:11 <coppice> hsn: my beard used to be blonde. Then it became pure white. Now its kinda grey. How does a blonde person end up with grey hair?
46:56 <hsn> coppice, the only way i know contains painting
47:43 <rust_collector> In my papers from the military, they say I am "dark blonde" i did not even know that was a thing... But yea, I do not get grey hair(yet) only bright white
48:29 <coppice> blondes certainly come in various shades, but nobody cares about us minorities
49:09 <K> rust_collector, what are results of the expedition?
49:30 <Ysjoelfir> I was dark brown (except as a young child, then I was blonde) and starting to get streaks of grey. also as K asks, what did you experience, touching your glowing balls, rusty?
49:45 <K> got yelled at prolly
49:47 <rust_collector> they are low powered ones, but they are also stone cold.
50:32 <rust_collector> one has been on "forever" it is cold. but it was only 0.6w rated
51:37 <rust_collector> the 3w ones in the livingroom are... not cold-cold, but not close to warm, they have 4 strings of leds
51:56 <Nothing\> what's a good game to play when you're angry?
52:03 <rust_collector> tetris
52:05 <Nothing\> i mean like, seething kinda angry
52:09 <Nothing\> not just pissed off
52:25 <Nothing\> that's not a bad idea rust_collector
52:33 <Nothing\> i'm a big fan of tetris and very skilled at it
52:41 <Nothing\> more than once i've come first in a round of tetris 99
52:42 <rust_collector> tetris and solitaire, from windows xp
52:59 <Nothing\> which is a version of tetris on the switch in which you play multiplayer against 99 people at the same time
53:43 <rust_collector> no no. only single player things. best if it is played on an old gameboy
55:03 <K> regarding electronic doodads, anyone has a recomendation for record player? would not mind spending 300-400EUR
55:06 <rust_collector> or, you can stop being angry, and make lunch, then play that space...build-A-rocket game
55:09 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i didn't like the GB tetris, there's a trick where if you move a piece all the way to the left and continually rotate it, it won't keep falling
55:13 <Nothing\> but i do love the music on it
55:19 <Nothing\> it's what tetris music shoulda been on the NES
55:24 <Nothing\> russian folk songs
55:32 <Nothing\> not fucking, dance of the sugar plum fairy
55:53 <Nothing\> actually, B and C an the NES were good songs
56:02 <Nothing\> i only know this cuz i used to play those songs on piano
56:10 <Nothing\> no wait, B was on the gameboy that i liked
56:21 <Nothing\> that sorta cover or re-write of katyusha
56:34 <Ysjoelfir> K: I am very happy with mine, though its an old model, but still pretty.... available used. if thats a thing I can search for the model for you
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56:59 <K> i take recomendations
57:00 <Nothing\> anyways, maybe i'll just play some gta v and mow down some pedestrians
57:15 <rust_collector> ok, have fune with that
57:17 <Nothing\> nothing better than driving down vespucci beach's boardwalk in a firetruck mowing down people
57:31 <Nothing\> (venice beach)
57:35 <rust_collector> K i would probably vote for an older player too
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> K, its a Dual 1246
01:01 <rust_collector> dual, technics or denon should be ok
01:33 <rust_collector> either that, or they are the only brands I can remember
01:40 <K> audio-technica also has come up
02:29 <rust_collector> that sounds like I have hear about it, but I can not say anything about them
03:27 <Ysjoelfir> yep
05:39 <K> heh, fun fact - i have an ancient (80s) color tv from dual, all fancy with digital color control and whatnot
06:16 <Ysjoelfir> uh, nice
06:29 <Ampera> hi rust_collector, Ysjoelfir, and K
06:29 <K> it is a bit b0rk atm, but i have hopes to fix it
06:34 <Ampera> how are you three
06:35 <K> tube still has some hours on it
06:44 <rust_collector> hey Ampera
06:51 <Ampera> my package got to germany, Ysjoelfir didn't steal it \o/
06:55 <Ysjoelfir> I still have an ancient full tube black and white TV which needs repair. I'll start with that when we some day live in a house I guess....
06:57 <K> im trying to convince myself to leave early
07:00 <Ampera> er, got to its destination in germany
07:04 <Ysjoelfir> damn, must have slipped through, Ampera >_>
07:10 <Ampera> it took 10 days to clear customs
07:19 <Ampera> but thankfully I don't think any tarrif was charged against my grandmother
09:55 <K> next time
10:03 <rust_collector> I bet your grandmother will be happy to receive 3 handfulls of old pnp transistors, and a bag of sand, from Ysjoelfir
10:16 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
10:33 <K> <crunch-crunch>
10:42 <Ampera> she got a teddy bear, candy, chocolate, cookies, coffee, and some little plastic figures
11:01 <rust_collector> we will see about that, after it was thru "customs"
11:28 <rust_collector> well, that is nice
11:40 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to get a teddy :) I mean, realy. no joke. I love plushies.
12:13 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, when's your birthday :P
12:20 <Ysjoelfir> XD
12:24 <Ysjoelfir> 10th of march
12:40 <Ampera> I'll consider your request >:)
12:46 <Ysjoelfir> <3
13:20 <K> ur gonna get a wooden crocodile, painted teal
13:36 <Ysjoelfir> that.. would be interesting
14:20 <rust_collector> teal is best colour
14:30 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, 10th of march .. thats 20days before ur first lie
14:46 <Ysjoelfir> is that so? :D
14:51 <hsn> april fools
15:00 <Ysjoelfir> oooh! yes, probably :D
15:15 <hsn> so u was lier from ur birth
15:17 <hsn> :D
15:23 <Ysjoelfir> XD
16:13 <rust_collector> humm, kid#2 is making burgers. I guess lunch will be kebab today
16:27 <Ampera> you must have a lot of faith in your offsprings' ability to cook
16:41 <rust_collector> ok?
16:58 * Ampera stares at ground awkwardly, slowly backs away
17:05 <rust_collector> i have a garbage can next to me. i can disappear most meals
17:29 <rust_collector> but yeah, they do ok, actually
18:19 <rust_collector> well, not so much kid#1, he is lucky if he can heat up things in the microwave
19:02 <hsn> rust_collector, i know the feeling ... my mom used to do pizza using rice .. :D
19:09 <Ampera> ...
19:16 <Ampera> you would be executed if you did that here in NY
19:29 <Ampera> that's even worse than chicago
19:49 <hsn> Ampera, will. u ask her what is for dinner.. she guess whats in ur mind .. and call what ever she cooked to that
19:55 <rust_collector> dad used to have a series of experimental spaghetti-pizzas. it was ok, that one time he got it right
19:57 <hsn> well*
20:20 <Ampera> tonight I'm relying on someone else to do food
20:24 <Ampera> we're having chinese takeout
20:27 <hsn> i want pizza .. she makes u pizza .. which is left over from launch basically .. reformed
20:28 <hsn> :D
20:58 * Ampera launches hsn 
21:06 * hsn fries
21:08 <DHess_US> Bought propane at the local U-Haul and I think the employee was embezzling. The receipt only lists the propane for one of the tanks I filled but I paid the full amount for the three tanks. Since I paid in cash, as far as U-Haul knows only one tank was filled and the employee could pocket the difference.
21:39 <rust_collector> sounds like a plan
21:55 <Ampera> so you're ray charles now :P
23:57 <Ysjoelfir> well, would be nice if I could even get propane at all
24:25 <Ysjoelfir> but: since home improvement stores arent "system cricital" I can't get any propanein a radius of 72 kilometers
24:55 <K> you can't order online and just go pick it up?
25:22 <rust_collector> you should try your nearest kiwi
25:40 <DHess_US> We don't have any businesses "closed" here in Missouri but no indoor dining and businesses are required to require customers to wear masks.
25:43 <Ysjoelfir> nope, K. you can do that for wood and small stuff, but not for gas
25:52 <DHess_US> Plus 25% occupancy limits.
25:56 <Ysjoelfir> rusty: great idea! that would be... probably the one in kristiansand
26:03 <Ysjoelfir> so roughly 1300km
26:07 <rust_collector> ok, go go go
26:52 <DHess_US> U-Haul is pretty much where one goes for propane here unless you use one of those swap tanks services which is like twice the price.
27:03 <K> ah.
28:27 <Ysjoelfir> in germany you don't get any refill at all, even though we have two kind of bottles. red ones and grey ones. red are loan bottles, grey ones are your own property. but if you want new gas you have to swap them, no matter what kind it is
29:14 <K> hm, seems safer to me that way
29:18 <rust_collector> you people are weeeird
29:42 <DHess_US> Our tanks have a date stamped on them and have to be recertified every few years.
29:49 <Ysjoelfir> same here
30:32 <rust_collector> the good thing about swapping bottles, is that they test the valves, when they fill them up.
32:47 <Ysjoelfir> officially you have to pay for that if you have grey bottles (which I have, since "in the early days" it was cheaper refilling those (when it was still possible) than swapping loan bottles), but inofficially... well.. it is you who picks which bottle you want from the stack, so you obviously pick one that looks the newest
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41:37 <K> the ponni has been kuscheled, rejoice
41:45 <Kuschelpony> Thanks
41:56 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. cuddlelittlehorse :)
42:27 * steve30 paws at Ysjoelfir 
42:35 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. steve
42:38 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve
43:17 <steve30> I was just browsing the forum
43:17 <steve30> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/post-a-picture-of-a-cat!/?action=dlattach;attach=1143049;image
43:36 <Ysjoelfir> aww :) how cute
43:48 <DHess_US> They are combining their power to kill you.
44:01 <DHess_US> Cats always meditate before battle.
44:24 <rust_collector> yes, they are sending brain-signals, to coordinate
45:28 <K> synchrosnoozing in progress
45:37 <Ysjoelfir> XD
47:50 <DHess_US> Cuddle Snoozing - Through this relaxing resting and meditation process, cats prepare their minds and bodies for combat.
49:50 <steve30> on that note, i should go to bed soon
50:11 * steve30 meows innocently
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54:14 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy steve :)
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59:30 <rust_collector> prfft. I guess i have to get ready to go. I am just going to be at work today, watching some guy do the work.
59:43 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds relaxing
00:00 <rust_collector> depends on the person, I guess
01:02 <rust_collector> I have had people that were so useless and annoying that I have dumped them in some random places.
03:05 <K> at the bar, "imma nip for a quick piss, brb"
03:15 <Ysjoelfir> xD
03:18 <K> never to be seen again
03:37 <DHess_US> https://it.slashdot.org/story/21/01/06/0410247/hackers-target-cryptocurrency-users-with-new-electrorat-malware
03:59 <rust_collector> electrorat... that is a good name
05:32 <rust_collector> k well, i just stop, and call a taxi. the person can argue with mr boss about who gets to pay for that.
06:27 <rust_collector> ok, have fun.
08:24 <K> okay
14:05 <K> welp, that is it for me too.
14:07 <K> cyas
35:44 <TheDude> g'day
59:38 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you doing
59:53 <TheDude> pretty good :)
59:54 <TheDude> you?
02:27 <Ampera> headache that will be solved in an hour :P
02:38 <Ampera> besides that, got over a blocking issue at work
23:12 <Nothing\> i wonder how many people automatically assume my non-personal email account is fake just because of its address
23:47 <Nothing\> [email protected]
24:03 <Nothing\> it woulda started with a 3 but gmail doesn't let you do that
24:21 <Nothing\> and 30 characters is the max it would let me do, otherwise i'd have more digits
24:37 <Nothing\> and the decimal point
25:49 <Nothing\> who lives in the east beneath the willow trees. sexual harassment... PANDA!
22:51 <Nothing\> aaand the channel's still dead
23:03 <Nothing\> you guys suck @ irc :P
03:01 <Andre> hi
05:13 <Andre> an email address like that, I would say it's suspicous indeed.
33:33 <Nothing\> lol yeah really
34:24 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
34:41 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
34:47 <Nothing\> hey man, how's it going?
34:49 <electrohead> o/
34:53 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
34:55 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
34:59 <electrohead> y0.
35:00 * Nothing\ hugs electrohead 
35:01 <electrohead> :p
35:04 <Ampera> I looked over at my rss reader and saw 300 stories in it
35:07 <Ampera> so I cleared those out
35:10 * Nothing\ needed a group hug
35:11 * electrohead gets hugged
35:15 <Nothing\> <3
35:17 <Ampera> I put CBS and MSNBC in there, but I think I might take them out again
35:18 * electrohead returns said hugs
35:56 <Ampera> of all my news sources, the most irritating ones are those who post stories syndicated by the AP
36:13 <Ampera> I swear every story that comes out of the AP reeks of bias
45:42 <electrohead> I just read that a bunch of fucktards are storming capital hill
46:06 <Ampera> supposedly they got in
46:13 <Ampera> locked the place down, evacuated
46:19 <Ampera> no shots fired, so they let them in
46:37 <Ampera> it's a tense situation, but most of the government is where it needs to be
47:12 <Ampera> not even his VP is following in his crazy
02:50 * Nothing\ sighs
03:08 <Nothing\> nothing like having my trust broken, yet again
03:25 * electrohead pieces Nothing\'s trust back together
03:28 <Nothing\> why was i even stupid enough to think i could ever trust somebody again. Especially a mental health professional.
03:42 <Nothing\> yeah i trust you guyswell
04:08 <Nothing\> and of course i'm seething from anger on account of this
04:37 <Nothing\> if this piece of shit died, the only reason i would feel bad is because he would no longer be capable of feeling any new suffering that he may have experienced had he stayed alive
07:01 <Nothing\> i can only hope he has a chronic pain and suffering throughout the rest of his worthless existence
07:18 <Nothing\> honestly i would spit in his face if i could. he's lower than rat shit imo.
09:07 <Nothing\> i can't go into detail, but suffice it to say he breached my trust in a way worse than any mental health professional has ever done. and i've seen literally dozens of them since i was a kid.
12:45 <Nothing\> he lied to me through omission, which to me is just as bad as lying through false claims
12:52 <Nothing\> if not, worse
16:40 <hsn> Ampera stop shooting ppl in Congress
17:08 <Nothing\> so, what's the difference between congress and the senate?
18:24 <hsn> Congress hosts larger type of cunts?
20:03 <hsn> I know nothing in politics .. all i know is its full of cunts
20:32 <Nothing\> it's okay, despite being canadian, i know more about american politics
20:33 <hsn> I hate politicians ..
20:47 <hsn> In all the world
21:26 <T3sl4> Nothing\: congress is bicameral, divided into lower and upper house
21:32 <T3sl4> being house of representatives, and senate
21:45 <Nothing\> huh
21:52 <electrohead> I think the bigger cunts are the people storming capital hill
21:55 <Nothing\> you guys know glitch is a yiddish word?
22:24 <T3sl4> y'all qaida is having a fit
22:25 <Nothing\> T3sl4, ah yeah we have a similar thing here i believ
22:35 <hsn> T3sl4: so there is (congress) and (CONGRESS) .. its case sensetive
22:53 <T3sl4> The Congress, rather
23:16 <T3sl4> parliament is... very broadly similar, but is structured differently
24:00 <hsn> Mr carrot not leaving his chair?
24:27 <hsn> https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/biden-trump-electoral-college-certification-congress
24:53 <T3sl4> carrots are slim. he's a pumpkin
25:02 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i was just reading about the assassinations of one of the old imams for al qaeda
26:00 <Nothing\> he was the first guy to be killed targeted drone strike
27:09 <Nothing\> thing is, he was an american citizen and not given due process or any sort of trial
28:09 <Nothing\> but the obama administration said the strike took place under the rules of war so it was legal
50:18 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
22:42 * electrohead looks around
26:31 <Ysjoelfir> please roll on perception
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38:49 * electrohead rolls on Ysjoelfir
42:12 <Ysjoelfir> 20
42:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: This is insane. #clownworld :Which was quoting: Reuters: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was denied bail because a judge said there is a risk he may abscond while the United States tries to extradite him from Britain https://t.co/7m8v4JkkX5
42:34 <Ysjoelfir> (Ampera, the bot needs a dice function! that would be awesome)
43:01 <Ampera> I'll add it to my mental list :P
43:21 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, while looking around you notice that this channel is completely empty. you feel strangely confident that nobody is around and decide to take a wee near T3sl4
43:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Banana for scale 🍌📏: Excavataurus https://t.co/fRuKS5z3Mv
43:56 <electrohead> stop
43:58 * T3sl4 basks in the warmth
44:01 <electrohead> turn left
44:21 <T3sl4> it is dark. you are likely to be eaten by a grue.
46:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Paul Daniels: Exceptionally generous contribution from a YouTube viewer. Their not so subtle way of saying the my existing camera was a bit lacking ( and I agree ) https://t.co/BNwLHjvKzt
47:35 <Ysjoelfir> I see T3sl4 is fluent in the terms of pen and paper? :D
48:10 <electrohead> eat grue
48:15 <electrohead> lol :p
48:24 <T3sl4> never played it, tbh
48:41 <Ysjoelfir> I played for the first time on new years. it was so much fun
07:59 <T3sl4> hahaha https://www.mcmaster.com/3542N11/
09:01 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
09:01 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:27 2020
23:23 <Ysjoelfir> woah, ROHS and REACH compliant!
23:36 <Ysjoelfir> better not have any harmfull chemicals in your freeze pops
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45:25 * Ampera reaches for Ysjoelfir 
55:44 * electrohead offers beer
07:48 <Ampera> ew
08:05 * Ampera hops electrohead's beer right in the can
14:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: IMPORTANT community announement: Please understand and help your friends and colleagues who suffer from TEAS - Test Equipment Acquisition Syndrome https://t.co/DcJbnTR5hz
34:40 * electrohead gets said beer from the can
34:46 <electrohead> that shit isn't cheap :P
34:49 <electrohead> well, the stuff I drink, anyway
34:50 <T3sl4> mmm, Ysjoelbier
34:52 <electrohead> heh
56:41 * Ysjoelfir Ysjoelbeds
56:48 * Ysjoelfir waves
58:18 <steve30> hi
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32:43 <electrohead> home ~
34:47 * T3sl4 particles
35:29 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
36:21 * steve30 pets T3sl4 
36:56 * T3sl4 purrs
59:20 * electrohead offers T3sl4 a Golden Monkey
59:21 <electrohead> lol
59:31 <electrohead> made by Victory; ever try any of their beers?
59:38 * T3sl4 cuts off its paw, gives it to electrohead
59:46 <electrohead> :p
00:23 <electrohead> oh, the golden monkey is 9.5%
00:33 <electrohead> and tastes phenomenal
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08:22 <T3sl4> electrohead: nice
08:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Evil Mad Scientist: LED experiments with @TubeTimeUS; more coming in the future. ⭐️ https://t.co/xcmeUyxSnK
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13:40 <arch> anyone know what the RL (load resistor) in a buck reg loop comp is supposed to be? my guess is it's the bottom resistor of the voltage divider for the feedback: https://i.imgur.com/4g0LDHK.png
15:45 <T3sl4> it's...the resistance of the load
29:11 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4 
29:20 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
37:30 <arch> T3sl4, literally divide the output voltage by current and use that?
37:41 <T3sl4> sure
38:04 <T3sl4> more specifically its dynamic resistance, whatever that is
38:21 <electrohead> just eyeball it?
38:48 <electrohead> worst comes to worst, put it on the scope and double check
39:58 <electrohead> (yes, I do that for a lot of things)
40:06 <electrohead> err, at first, I should say
40:30 <electrohead> just guess-timate, tweak, then use the 'scope to finetune
40:50 <electrohead> I didn't even look at the picture, sorry, in the back room in CLI land
44:25 <DHess_US> Who makes good computer speakers? Apparently Altec Lansing no longer does.
44:46 <electrohead> DHess_US: They don't? why is that?
44:50 <steve30> Don't know. My computer is just hooked up to my HiFi amp
46:09 <DHess_US> I moved my new computer into place and probably burned out the transformer in my speakers.
47:51 <electrohead> probably burned out the transformer?
47:55 <electrohead> lol
48:09 <electrohead> did you double check to see if that's the case?
48:14 <DHess_US> I shorted the DC power which comes out of the subwoofer unit
48:29 <DHess_US> The transformer inside the subwoofer got too hot to touch.
48:48 <DHess_US> So either the transformer is toast or the bridge rectifers are shorted.
49:04 <DHess_US> If the transformer is toast then I cannot easily replace it.
50:45 <arch> why not
50:52 <arch> what voltage output?
51:16 <arch> you can get Cisco 500W 48V smps off ebay for chump change, less than $20
51:31 <arch> the kind they use inside those 48port switches
52:23 <arch> get two of them, stick em in series, tap the midpoint and bam: +/-48V power for amp
52:34 <electrohead> DHess_US: ouch, how'd you short it? lol
52:46 <DHess_US> I need to take a closer look but the power supply has at least three windings.
52:59 <DHess_US> Three windings, two bridge rectifiers
53:08 <arch> if it's a really heavy unit, most likely it uses toroidal iron core trafo
53:11 <DHess_US> electrohead, barrel plug cable frayed
53:19 <DHess_US> Yes, it is toroidal
53:43 <arch> yeaaa, those are very common on ebay. you can get +/-36V ones for about $70-90
53:44 <electrohead> ahh, damn
53:56 <arch> 300VA around
53:58 <DHess_US> arch, not with three secondaries
54:24 <arch> you can always get multiple trafos
54:34 <DHess_US> Guess I need to take a closer look at it. Maybe the transformer isn't fried.
54:51 <arch> yeah, if the trafo was fried, most of them come with a thermal fuse that blows
55:18 <electrohead> DHess_US: I'd do some basic troubleshooting, seeing if it's the transformer or not; for all you know, you can get a new cable, or fix the cable, and all may be good
55:20 <arch> desolder the bridge rects and then observe the temps
57:02 <DHess_US> Maybe just buy a used one, https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALTEC-LANSING-Multimedia-ACS31-Speakers-Powered-SubWoofer-Works-Fantastically/333841887333
57:07 <DHess_US> That's what I have
57:24 <DHess_US> arch, yep
57:45 <DHess_US> Just didn't feel like rebuilding 20+ year old speakers if something new was available.
00:59 <DHess_US> Hmm, trace burned off of the power supply board. That might have saved the transformer.
03:00 <rust_collector> woohoo!
05:36 <DHess_US> Nope, transformer fried. Has shorted turns.
06:13 <T3sl4> mmm, delicious
08:09 <arch> T3sl4, i found a helpful appnote. and indeed, they did simply divide Vout by Iout: https://d1d2qsbl8m0m72.cloudfront.net/en/products/databook/applinote/ic/power/switching_regulator/setting_compensation_parts_to_current_mode_buck_converter_an-e.pdf
09:02 <arch> now i should be all set
14:08 <arch> Donarudo Toranpu throwing a tantrum cuz he got blocked on twitter
14:53 <arch> DHess_US, are you sure it doesn't just use a DC barrel jack connector? thats what it looks like from the ebay listing
16:23 <DHess_US> arch, the power supply is in the subwoofer. The barrel jack connects from the power supply in the subwoofer to the head unit.
18:22 <arch> ah ok. so the subwoofer contains a PSU that powers both itself as well as sends power to the head unit
18:29 <DHess_US> yes
19:15 <arch> well, at this point, i would say the easiest solution is to order that ebay item. but if it was me, i'd probably waste too much time fixing it with custom power supplies and what not :D
20:03 <DHess_US> Don't know the voltages unfortunately
20:27 <DHess_US> Not much point refurbishing 20+ year old speaker system if I can find something reasonably similar new.
20:39 <arch> you can figure out from what diodes and transistors they used, or alternatively, you can ask someone to open up theirs and probe it
20:42 <arch> good point
21:12 <DHess_US> It would likely come down to buying the same one just to get the transformer, in which case might as well refurbish the used one.
21:26 <DHess_US> Or mix and match if the used one is damaged.
23:27 <rust_collector> I really don't think there is much new stuff that is any better, for the price. kid #1 used to have a reasonably "cheap" logitech set of speakers and sub, I am not sure how awesome the sound was, but it was very very loud.
25:17 <DHess_US> I don't see anything comparable at any price yet.
25:43 <DHess_US> closest match from logitech, https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/speaker-system-z623?crid=47
26:24 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNjazD8nQrQ
27:32 <DHess_US> Why would you link that?
28:12 <rust_collector> elvis looks pretty good, for his age
28:59 <electrohead> lol
29:35 <T3sl4> you squares need some cubane in your life
31:15 <arch> T3sl4, got anything about brewing meth? asking for a friend
31:29 * T3sl4 slaps arch with a lithium battery
31:36 * arch wonders who that is knocking on my door
32:48 <arch> say, what should i do about the ESR zero if im using ceramic caps? they have really tiny ESRs, like 5mOhm or less. just plug in the value anyways?
33:04 <arch> fz = 1/(2*pi*C*Esr)
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39:55 <rust_collector> if it asks for esr, I guess you should... or maybe put a resistor in series, to make it look like more esr? I have no idea
40:51 <T3sl4> when the zero is that low, it doesn't matter much, no
43:12 <arch> what's a safe value to use for the ESR when im using ceramic caps? what do you mean by ignore?
49:11 <DHess_US> what application?
54:15 <arch> buck
54:36 <arch> well, fly-buck to be more accurate, but the feedback is coming from the buck side
02:38 <DHess_US> This is the output capacitor? How large?
12:57 <arch> no, im talking about feedback loop compensation
13:52 <DHess_US> That shouldn't matter because usually you are either adding a series resistor for pole-zero compensation or it is in parallel with a series connected capacitor-resistor.
14:19 <DHess_US> The ESR of the feedback capacitor should be irrelevant. It just doesn't have any significant effect.
14:37 <DHess_US> Typical series resistance for pole-zero compensation will be 100s of ohms
14:57 <DHess_US> If you aren't doing pole-zero, then it doesn't matter because it is too small to matter.
16:37 <DHess_US> https://www.industrial-electronics.com/images/SwitchingPwr_7-18.jpg
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31:33 <arch> well, i calculated the RC and CC to be 47kOhm and 1nF respectively. ill put that to the test tomorrow with my transient load
33:45 <arch> https://d1d2qsbl8m0m72.cloudfront.net/en/products/databook/applinote/ic/power/switching_regulator/setting_compensation_parts_to_current_mode_buck_converter_an-e.pdf , page 3 of 4, except i used 50kHz crossover, 5V out, 31uF (derated), 200uA/V, and 6.8A/V
34:55 <DHess_US> I usually end up doing it empirically just so I can work back and calculate everything else.
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22:13 * Nothing\ sighs heavily
23:04 <steve30> hi
23:10 <Nothing\> hey steve30
23:13 <Nothing\> how's it going?
23:26 <steve30> i'm tired
23:40 <Nothing\> i'm sorry to hear that. Why not sleep?
23:51 <steve30> i've not been up long
24:26 <Nothing\> i find even just sitting with my eyes closed for 20-30 mins can help rejuvenate me
24:30 <Nothing\> at least for a short time
25:10 <steve30> i'm looking forward to having some food. I've got a steak and kidney pie in the fridge.
25:33 <Nothing\> that does sound good
26:07 <Nothing\> i wish i could eat, i've been going on like 200 food Calories at most per day for almost 2 weeks
26:26 <Nothing\> but i've been drinking plenty of milk so at least i'm getting lotsa good stuff from that
26:57 <Nothing\> food calories being calories derived from food, not kilocalories
27:07 <Nothing\> i'm sure the milk provides a lot more than that
32:42 <Nothing\> i'm giving serious consideration to checking myself into a mental health unit at a hospital
33:19 <Nothing\> if not for the unknowns, i'd have probably done so by now
33:56 <steve30> How much does that cost?
34:10 <Nothing\> free through ontario health insurance plan
34:16 <steve30> cool
34:36 <Nothing\> very much so. I'd be bankrupted several times over if not for OHIP
34:44 <Nothing\> god bless socialism
36:39 <steve30> Not sure what hospitals are like here for people with mental problems. I gather you can go to A&E if you're suicidal but whether they'll do anything other than send you home I don't know.
36:48 <Nothing\> i think i'll just wait on it. i'm not thinking of harming myself or anyone else. I'm just emotionally overwhelmed and need to get away to somewhere i feel safe.
37:35 <Nothing\> or just bring it up with my shrink when i see him in a couple of weeks
37:50 <steve30> I do need to ring for a doctors appointment later
39:21 <Nothing\> i should probably stop ruminating and try to distract myself from this
39:43 * steve30 pets Nothing\ 
40:02 * Nothing\ hugs steve30 <3
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47:40 <MRiddickW> Nothing\: Oh, hi BTW.
47:53 <MRiddickW> My computer likes to wake up when I'm not around apparently.
48:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: In the flesh https://t.co/WpDrOTnrht
01:00 <Nothing\> MRiddickW, ah, i get that too
01:41 <Nothing\> or first thing in the morning when i wake it up and start doing my morning routine and people are greeting me. I feel bad not being able to return the greeting right away.
01:49 <MRiddickW> Ah yeah
02:40 <MRiddickW> Huh. JLCPCB is raising a stink about my sending them Gerber X2 files.
02:51 <MRiddickW> I've been doing that for like 1.5 years with no issue until nopw.
02:53 <MRiddickW> now*
03:20 <Nothing\> weird, i'm vaguely familiar with gerber in that i've heard of it, but not X2 files
03:27 <Nothing\> double sided boards?
03:40 <MRiddickW> Yeah
03:49 <Nothing\> ah, how odd
04:02 <Nothing\> wonder how they'd react to a multilayered board
04:47 <MRiddickW> I'm familiar with Gerber in that I generate the files and send a zip of them to PCB fab house, then a week or two later I have some PCBs show up in the mail.
05:04 <MRiddickW> But how Gerber X2 differs from RS274x, no idea.
05:44 <Nothing\> maybe get in touch with customer service
05:57 <Nothing\> if the translation barrier can be broken
06:01 <Nothing\> *language
06:28 <T3sl4> hoh lee fuck, that's a 10 weapon power rebel ship in FTL
06:31 <MRiddickW> Yeah, they're the ones who emailed me after I uploaded successfully. "We noticed your files are in Gerber X2 format but currently JLCPCB is still not ready for Gerber X2 (We are working on to support Gerber X2, but not fully done yet). If we use current CAM tools to convert the X2 file, there is high risk of lossing traces and get deformed pads.Some customers already received defective boards with Gerber X2 files."
06:45 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yikes!
06:49 <MRiddickW> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
06:56 <Nothing\> 10 weapons? wtf is it the last ship or something?
07:10 <T3sl4> just a rebel fleet encounter
07:19 <T3sl4> it gets better tho
07:27 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/sajlyHZ.png
07:33 <T3sl4> it has two vulcans
07:35 <T3sl4> and a flak
08:00 <T3sl4> i wasn't planning on hacking this guy, but when i saw the flak light up i had to and get the screenshot
08:14 <Nothing\> yeah those ion canons aren't gonna be much help in that situation
08:18 <T3sl4> and this is normal difficulty, you rarely see these things on hard
09:03 <T3sl4> oh hey i didn't even see the boarders in my battery, hah
09:18 <Nothing\> oh jeez that's the worst
09:30 <Nothing\> boarders always screw me over in the early game
10:15 <Nothing\> i'm sure there's a class of ship that comes with a security drone somewhere. There's gotta be.
10:30 <Nothing\> er not drone. But personell
11:16 <MRiddickW> Ugh. The worst part about this is that I ordered two different PCBs, and the second one hasn't been rejected yet, so I can't reupload until they reject it.
11:21 <MRiddickW> I'm ready to go to bed.
11:46 <T3sl4> sick, beam drone started a fire in weapons, wonder if i can crew kill this one
11:50 <T3sl4> not that it matters, it's only for 1 fuel
12:01 <T3sl4> nitey MRiddickW
12:13 <Nothing\> lol yeah those rebel fleet encounters are awful
12:27 <Nothing\> i just don't even risk it
13:26 <Nothing\> but it can be hard if you're hard up on fuel or missiles and trying to find a store
13:43 <T3sl4> protip: you never get asb in an exit node on easy, or in a nebula
14:11 <T3sl4> i don't risk it unless i've got 5 or more engines, or other suitable means
14:12 <Nothing\> yeah but can't you not unlock anything on easy mode or something like that?
14:29 <T3sl4> bruh i got the crystal ship on easy
14:43 <Nothing\> oh, nice. They musta changed that.
14:56 <MRiddickW> Huh. I'm trying to sell a set of wheels on Craigslist/FB Marketplace. $200 for the set of 4. Someone just asked me how much I want for one wheel.
15:12 <Nothing\> Cuz I'd always avoid easy and just go with normal cuz you couldn't unlock stuff or something like that on easy. So there was really no point in playing it.
15:35 <Nothing\> MRiddickW, i think $75 would be fair
15:46 <T3sl4> fortunately for as punishing as FTL is, it's not THAT punishing
15:48 <Nothing\> but then what are you to do with the other 3?
15:52 <MRiddickW> Yeah, I was thinking $75-$100.
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16:07 <MRiddickW> Probably just take them to recycle scrap yard to get $2 or whatever.
16:13 <Nothing\> T3sl4, spelunky was way worse lol
16:20 <Nothing\> probably THE worst
16:25 <T3sl4> haven't played it, looks like it tho lol
16:38 <Nothing\> it's fun as hell, they even came out with a sequel recently.
16:38 <T3sl4> or la mulana i think is super tough too
16:39 <MRiddickW> Or just keep trying to sell them piecemeal I guess.
16:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Found a label maker in the dumpster. Works fine, just some corroded terminals. https://t.co/ujsu8PuG1R
16:53 <Nothing\> apparently minecraft was based loosely on spelunky. That's how I heard about it.
17:07 <T3sl4> yeah i watched mark brown play some of it lol
17:16 <Nothing\> heh
17:49 <Nothing\> okay this new ecig i bought is literally impossible to refill
18:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Found in the dumpster. What the heck is PC-MOS? https://t.co/UXWmNAinWF
18:22 <Nothing\> the hole's so tiny, it just forms a bubble over the top and all of the liquid you try to put in it just runs all down the sides and all over the damn thing
18:45 <Nothing\> the only way to actually get the juice in is to force it, and then you get even more juice everywhere
19:24 <Nothing\> think i'm taking this back tomorrow and if the guy objects, I'll invite him to try refilling it himself and see what happens
20:11 <Nothing\> and it claims a 3.5ml tank, yet within half an hour i've consumed half of it, where a 2.5ml tank will last me half a day
20:38 <Nothing\> half a day at the least, usually a full day.
21:01 <T3sl4> get a syringe
21:16 <Nothing\> actually, i do have a pipette
21:20 <Nothing\> that's not a bad idea
21:59 <Nothing\> the oral syringes i have, are even wider than the tip on my ejuice bottle
22:43 <Nothing\> the only reason i got it is cuz the store only does curbside, so i was pretty much stuck to whatever they recommended
24:46 <MRiddickW> Told the guy $80.
24:58 <Nothing\> that sounds reasonable
25:06 <MRiddickW> I should just revamp my listings to be "OEM wheels for sale. Slightly bent. $75 each. Or buy all [remaining qty] for [bulk price]."
25:30 <Nothing\> yeah, $200 or something for the lot
25:44 <MRiddickW> Yeah.
26:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Found a label maker in the dumpster. Works fine, just some corroded terminals. https://t.co/ujsu8PuG1R
26:46 <Nothing\> yes thank you EEVBlog we saw that the last 2 times you posted it in the last 5 minutes
26:48 <Nothing\> lol
26:56 <MRiddickW> Lol
27:17 <Nothing\> i really need a label maker for my parts bin
27:45 <MRiddickW> I'm often extremely jealous of his dumpster. But it's sometimes followed with relief knowing my hoarding/archiving tendencies.
27:47 <Nothing\> right now i just use strips of masking tape i cut in half lengthwise and then write on with sharpies that for some reason are always dried out
28:05 <Nothing\> i know man, he finds so much cool shit.
28:44 <Nothing\> it almost makes me wanna go up to Waterloo (Ontario) and raid the dumpsters at RIM park, or whatever it's called since they became blackberry
28:53 <MRiddickW> I guess that's when you call up friends and go "yo, you want a giant TV that may or may not be flaky?"
29:00 <Nothing\> i don't even know if they're still in business, but i'm sure the business park still exists
29:11 <Nothing\> or raid the dumpsters at U of W
29:18 <Nothing\> which is a real techy school
32:56 <MRiddickW> Alright, I'm going to bed for real this time.
33:01 <MRiddickW> G'night y'all.
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42:52 <T3sl4> man, that took a while
43:00 <T3sl4> i should've kept that combat 2 drone
43:24 <T3sl4> was banking on getting better primary weapons, but literally every shop i went to had no weapons at all
43:34 <T3sl4> beam drone mvp
52:12 <DHess_US> what are you talking about?
52:26 <DHess_US> New computer up and running, except for my good old speakers. :(
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25:24 <Halcyon> Evenninnnnng
25:36 <T3sl4> DHess_US: was just finishing FTL. typical run takes a few hours
25:44 * T3sl4 glomps Halcyon
27:41 <Halcyon> What's a glomp?
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31:11 <steve30> hi
31:39 <steve30> I decided to have an alcoholic beverage, then I'm going to do some food.
31:53 <Halcyon> What are you having Steve?
31:59 <steve30> steak and kidney pie
32:03 <Halcyon> I mean to drink
32:08 <steve30> beer
32:13 <Halcyon> So butch :P
49:17 <steve30> I was watching a cute guy on youtube earlier. Forgot who it is though.
50:32 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://imgur.com/gallery/e1QtE
58:34 <steve30> Halcyon, https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/post-a-picture-of-a-cat!/?action=dlattach;attach=1143049;image
59:18 <T3sl4> daww
00:21 <hsn> T3sl4, let me understand .. what is batman doing in congress
02:26 <T3sl4> not much it seems
10:50 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
19:19 <T3sl4> "Why did it take the police so long to show up to Capitol Hill today?" "Because they had to go home and change first."
33:38 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
33:45 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
33:47 <Ampera> how are you doing
33:52 <Halcyon> Tired
33:58 <Ampera> stop doing that
34:04 <Halcyon> No
34:10 * Ampera points a gun
34:12 <Ampera> did I stutter?
35:02 * Ampera gives Halcyon an iSmac
35:41 <Halcyon> I think I have one?
35:47 <Ampera> an internet smack?
35:52 <Ampera> yes, I just gave you one
36:34 <Halcyon> An iMac
36:44 <Ampera> yeah I have two
36:47 <Ampera> they're not rare
37:12 <Ampera> thankfully my mac collection is slowly building, unfortunately it's all post 68k macs
37:17 <Ampera> but ppc macs are neat too
37:37 <Ampera> it's an interesting challenge to have a machine that can no longer (easily) run linux
39:28 <Halcyon> Well, consider Apple have produced nothing but boring, average machines for years, might as well own some Apple computers from back when they were decent.
40:48 <Ampera> I think their hardware has always been characteristically good, but they tend to lack obvious features, and support for non macOS systems is always iffy
40:55 <K> hello racoons
41:14 <Ampera> they make stuff that feels and looks good, and is usually built quite well
41:34 <Ampera> how many computers do you know of that are still made out of monolithic blocks of milled aluminum and even titanium (perhaps not anymore)
42:13 <hsn> https://github.com/KitSprout/AltiumDesigner_PcbLibrary < good job chineese ..
42:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, ^
44:44 <Ampera> but for example, none of their iPhones have in screen fingerprint sensors, headphone jacks, expandable storage, and their camera hardware is not the best available
44:51 <Ampera> their screens are also low refresh rate
48:04 <Ampera> but unlike pretty much any other phone out there, the chassis is stainless steel, and everything has a good shape, feel, and weight to it
50:47 <Halcyon> The hardware and components themselves have been typically good quality. Their design however is another story
51:13 <Halcyon> Under-engineered or stupid design decisions. They have almost become "disposible" items.
52:25 <Halcyon> The all aluminium chassis are pretty and all, but you can't have them on your lap plugged in or you get that slight zing as you become the new grouding point
52:35 <Halcyon> Then there are the overheating issues etc...
52:50 <Halcyon> Thermal design has sucked rather hard in Macbooks in recent years
00:02 <hsn> Halcyon> Under-engineered or stupid design decisions. They have almost become "disposible" items.
00:12 <hsn> are u refering to me ? :)
00:35 <hsn> i make alot of stupid things .. that i dont even know if they r decisions or not
03:13 <Halcyon> :P
03:19 <Halcyon> Talking about Apple products
11:32 * steve30 returns from eating pie
14:28 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
38:22 <Halcyon> I like pie
38:24 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
38:32 <Halcyon> I am going to make your chicken thing tomorrow
38:36 <Ysjoelfir> I am not pie? Oo
38:46 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo! I'll do it as well, but today XD
39:12 <Halcyon> YAY
39:33 <Ysjoelfir> So I can tell you tomorrow if it is still as great as it was last week :D
40:22 <Halcyon> :)
40:55 <Halcyon> Oh Ampera
41:05 <Halcyon> I take it your amperaa.net mail server is no longer in use?
41:25 <Halcyon> I tried to forward you Ysjoelfir's chicken boob recipe and it just times out
41:47 * Ysjoelfir files a DMCA thingy to Halcyon :P
42:06 <Halcyon> Hah, good luck. They don't apply here :P
43:19 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
46:05 <steve30> chicken boob recipe?
46:33 <Halcyon> Spicy Indian Butter Chicken
46:41 <Halcyon> I can forward it to you Steve?
47:15 <steve30> ooh, please
47:20 <Halcyon> Email?
47:55 <steve30> [email protected]
48:06 <Halcyon> Done
50:04 <steve30> yum
53:14 <Ysjoelfir> very yum indeed
53:38 <Ysjoelfir> can'T wait for mrs. spouse to arrive home so that I can cook it. I'm starving for it :D
54:09 <Halcyon> I might do mine in the slow cooker on the weekend
54:12 <Halcyon> See how it comes out
54:58 <Ysjoelfir> oooh, that sounds like a great idea. tell me then, I love using my slowcooker
55:46 <Halcyon> I want to get a pressure cooker
56:32 <Ysjoelfir> I have a pressure cooker pot.
56:47 <Ysjoelfir> but not one of those fancy ones with a plug, but one you put onto your stove
56:50 <Halcyon> Yeh I want a stovetop one for gas
58:52 <K> put it on your steve
59:01 <Ysjoelfir> xD
59:12 <Ysjoelfir> steve is hot enough to pressurecook? :D
00:41 <Halcyon> :P
00:58 <K> does he have gas?
01:04 <K> or is he electric?
01:16 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure he produces some amount of methane
01:22 <Halcyon> Steve is multi-fuel
03:40 <Halcyon> Oh wow: How far we have come: https://youtu.be/YTB-3dr3cyo?t=1154
03:56 <Halcyon> "Worlds largest full colour flat panel display"
04:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:39 <Halcyon> Also that UPKE PC in the next bit looks a lot like some of Apple's designs
04:49 <Ysjoelfir> ew, apple :P
05:16 <Ysjoelfir> I still love this video from Atomic Shrimp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIboycigk_0 It realy works, so nice :D
05:29 <Halcyon> I love Atomic Shrimp
05:36 <Halcyon> Particularly his Weird stuff in a can
22:11 * steve30 coffees
27:24 <steve30> i'm looking forward to going to bed
32:31 <K> coffee before bed?
32:54 <steve30> mmm
33:56 <Halcyon> It's MY bed time, not yours
34:54 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon's bed
41:11 <Ampera> Halcyon, no, as it was never in use to begin with
41:49 <Ampera> Until I put in the time to gain the confidence that I have a reliable SMTP configuration, and then learn how to set up mailbox servers, it'll remain off
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25:07 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, so you didn't receive my great recipe?
25:38 <Ampera> if Halcyon gave you an email with *@amperaa.net, then no
25:49 <Ampera> if I did, I would be quite concerned that my SMTP server has been on all this time
25:52 <Ysjoelfir> he tried to send it himself I think :D
26:29 <Ampera> he knows my actual email, I don't know why he tried to send it to a long dead email server
26:40 <Ysjoelfir> strange :D
26:59 <Ysjoelfir> if you want it I can send it in his place.
27:52 <Ampera> I don't use recipes ever, so that's alright
28:05 <Ampera> unless I'm baking a confection, I don't
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