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38:49 <steve30> o/
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15:15 <electrohead> o/
15:39 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
15:41 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
15:46 * electrohead unhugs Ampera
15:49 <electrohead> lol, hey
15:50 <Ampera> :/
15:54 <Ampera> don't want my hugs? fine
15:59 <electrohead> :p
16:00 * Ampera hugs someone else, er
16:02 * Ampera hugs Ampera 
16:08 * electrohead hugs Ampera
16:11 <electrohead> hahaha
16:12 <Ampera> <3
16:18 <electrohead> so much love
20:09 * T3sl4 shrugs Ampera
20:21 <T3sl4> mornin all
23:31 <steve30> \o
23:40 * Ampera hugs steve30 
23:43 <Ampera> how are you doing steve30
23:56 <steve30> feeling rubbish, but i have coffee
24:12 <Ampera> so long as you have that I suppose
32:10 <electrohead> hey T3sl4
32:38 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a dose of creamer
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12:02 <Nothing\> hey guys
12:20 <Nothing\> i had an idea i was wondering if icould get some input
13:01 <Nothing\> i was wondering if you could use the adhesive on aluminium tape as a dielectric in a homemade capacitor by putting 2 pieces adhesive side to adhesive side
13:13 <Nothing\> seems like it might save some time
16:36 <K> what is the worst that could happen?
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24:23 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
24:50 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
24:55 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
25:00 <Nothing\> shit
25:05 <Ampera> that's good
25:06 <Nothing\> went to see that therapist yesterday
25:13 <Nothing\> his office fucking REEKED of weed
25:28 <Nothing\> i caught him off guard cuz he thought we were doing a phone appointment
25:34 <Ampera> There's worse it could have reeked of
25:35 <Nothing\> and i wasn't crazy, my mom smelled it too
25:56 <Nothing\> there is, but practicing therapy while under the influence is just outright unethical
26:08 <Nothing\> the guy went on for 2 and a half fucking hours about who knows what
26:13 <Ampera> file some sort of complaint/report
26:31 <Nothing\> at one point he stopped to go check around his office (we were the only ones there) because he thought he heard somebody in the bathroom
26:37 <Nothing\> i intend to
26:48 <Nothing\> i just need to find out with who, because he isn't a doctor
27:02 <Ampera> don't you have a parole officer?
27:10 <Nothing\> i do, and i was considering her
27:22 <Nothing\> or having my mom call her first, more credibility, ya know
27:26 <Ampera> seems like the obvious first contact, considering she's directly responsible for communicating between you and the people making you go to him
27:29 <Nothing\> then i'll make the same statement
27:40 <Nothing\> i'm going to bring it up with my psychiatrist when i see him
27:42 <Ampera> not sure if I'd find that more credible, but whatever works
27:43 <Nothing\> see what he suggests i do
28:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but i have also expressed my anger towards him about the other stuff, so i'm afraid they'll think i'm just trying to get back at him or something.
28:55 <Nothing\> but i can tell you one thing, if he had a patient who came in smelling like that, he'd tell him to go home and come back when he's sober
29:14 <Nothing\> like, i was almost choking on it, it was that strong
29:27 <Nothing\> i should have said something and recorded it
29:31 <Nothing\> somehow
29:35 <Nothing\> i dunno
29:54 <Nothing\> i had a million other things on my mind at the time
30:16 <Nothing\> i'm at least feeling better about the other stuff, but this now has me even more angry
30:29 <Nothing\> since it is an even worse breach of trust and ethics
31:19 <Nothing\> oh perfect
31:28 <Nothing\> there's a governing body for his type
31:35 <Nothing\> i can file a complaint through them
31:55 <Nothing\> ie therapists
38:21 <Lord_of_nothing> hi
40:44 <Nothing\> alright, i've got the relevant forms to file a complaint to the college of registered psychotherapists of ontario
40:48 <Nothing\> heya Lord_of_nothing
40:52 <Nothing\> how's it going?
41:01 <Ampera> sorry, was working
41:08 <Nothing\> no worries, it happens :)
41:15 <Ampera> I didn't sleep all that well last night, like usual
41:21 <Nothing\> i slept like a rock
41:23 <Ampera> so I'm almost dozing off
41:24 <Nothing\> finally
41:40 <Nothing\> now i've just gotta get this anxiety under control
41:48 <Nothing\> might help if i took my meds
42:06 <Nothing\> the only thing i could get was his registration number
42:25 <Ampera> I've had situational anxiety, I think everyone does to some degree, but doing certain things and being in certain places was usually the source of any anxiety I'd ever have
42:29 <Nothing\> but i'm sure i'll find it
42:39 <Ampera> but after christmas, it was the weirdest thing, I had constant anxiety
43:00 <Nothing\> yeah it's weird, half the time i don't even know what causes it
43:24 <Nothing\> just some trigger that hits my subconscious the wrong way and sends my limbic system into chaos
43:25 <Ampera> It's a strange mix of conscious/unconscious causes for me
45:21 <Nothing\> people are very dualistic
45:29 <Nothing\> at least, us addict folk are
46:26 <Nothing\> like with me, there's one part of me that wants to do nothing but things that feel good, consquences be damned, even at the expense of that/those which i hold dear to me
47:28 <Nothing\> then there's the other part which just wants a "normal", quiet life, to embrace those he loves and reciprocate said love, and treat everyone wonderfully while trying to make the world a better place for everyone, whether i like them or not
47:44 <Nothing\> cuz let's face it, you not liking somebody doesn't mean they shouldn't be happy
47:57 <Ampera> I think for me, many of my issues was wanting so much not to hurt or freak out people, strangers or those I care about, that I would never try to make things better for myself
48:21 <Ampera> even wearing female clothes outside of my own privacy made me insanely anxious, despite nobody really caring
48:32 <Nothing\> you mean by coming out? or whatever you wanna call it
48:43 <Ampera> coming out?
48:46 <Ampera> no I've done that ages ago
48:52 <Ampera> also *female -> feminine
48:53 <Nothing\> oh okay
49:00 <Nothing\> right
49:34 <Nothing\> i can understand that, especially in a small town
49:46 <Ampera> small town?
49:51 <Ampera> I live in a metro of a million people...
49:56 <Nothing\> lol my bad
50:04 <Nothing\> when somebody says upstate NY i imagine small towns
50:14 <Ampera> that's not upstate NY, that's bumblefuck NY
50:19 <Nothing\> lol
50:23 <Nothing\> like, fingerlake country?
50:32 <Ampera> never heard of it, so probably
50:38 <Nothing\> i'd imagine the marshes around there aren't too populated
50:44 <Nothing\> you've never heard of the finger lakes?
51:22 <Nothing\> they're a pretty cool geological feature
51:23 <Ampera> not really
52:26 <Nothing\> here:
52:27 <Nothing\> https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Finger+Lakes,+NY,+USA/@42.6584508,-77.2623111,129336m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d0e97f090ae217:0x20a5ccd2e680bc3b!8m2!3d42.7238165!4d-76.9297247
52:43 <Ampera> nowhere near where I live
52:48 <Nothing\> carved out by the receding glaciers at the the end of the last ice age, i believe
53:43 <Nothing\> yeah, that definitely looks like bumblefuck, ny
54:00 <Ampera> nah not really
54:08 <Ampera> there's still stuff there
54:23 <Nothing\> there is, but most of the towns i see are small, and within walking distance
54:25 <Ampera> bumblefuck NY is like anything north of the 90 and west of the 87
54:33 <Nothing\> ie, able to go from one to the other before cars
55:01 <Nothing\> ah
55:32 <Ampera> anyways, much of it was in my head
55:42 <Ampera> even when I went out in public the few times I did, nobody cared, and I know nobody really cares
56:07 <Nothing\> but deep down you could feel the judgement
56:11 <Nothing\> even if it wasn't there
56:13 <Ampera> nope
56:21 <Nothing\> that's good then
56:26 <Ampera> I felt like I was doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing
56:34 <Nothing\> ah
56:38 <Ampera> like I was breaking the law or something like that (extreme simile)
56:54 <Ampera> as I (believe) I'
57:11 <Ampera> ve said before, a lot of it was me thinking that it wasn't for me
57:29 <Ampera> like I didn't deserve it somehow, and kinda had to stick with what I had
57:47 <Ampera> and doing anything else was eccentric exhibitionism
58:58 <Ampera> idk, it's all weird and hard to explain
59:00 <Nothing\> kinda reminds me of when i started masturbating and i felt like i was doing something wrong
59:43 <Nothing\> my parents were pretty eh but obviously not thrilled about it when they caught me but i still had a lot of guilt
59:51 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
59:57 <Ampera> I've tired masturbating, I've never gotten anywhere with it
00:05 <Ampera> I get no pleasure out of stimulating myself down there
00:15 <Nothing\> especially given that everyone in school would make up stories about eachother re: masturbating
00:23 <Ampera> I might as well be massaging any other body part
00:47 <Nothing\> i remember my one friend told me he used to do it into a bowl, next thing i know there's a rumor that I did it in a bowl
01:09 <Ampera> ok
01:19 <Nothing\> yeha it was dumb
14:38 <Nothing\> alright, so i think i'm going to talk to my psychiatrist about this first, see what he thinks, then report it to my PO
14:59 <Nothing\> THEN if i still feel it's necessary, i'll file a formal complaint against him with the governing body over him
15:51 <Nothing\> my only concern is that the complaint process isn't anonymous since they need the relevant files for the investigation
16:06 <Nothing\> but oh well
16:33 <Nothing\> if he tries to make life hard for me afterwards, i can always file another one against him for that
17:00 <Nothing\> and my mom attends with me, so i've always got a witness
17:41 <Nothing\> hooo i tell you, despite the stress, i feel ALIVE
19:44 <Ampera> better than feeling dead
19:48 <Ampera> much better than feeling dead
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13:20 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder where that Austrian guy went. The one who was here some weeks ago for some days. I forgot his name.
15:24 <DHess_US> He fell up. https://imgur.com/gallery/Qq0tIWT
19:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty cool
20:26 <Ysjoelfir> should have done that with the christmas tree we had in frankfurt this year. but instead they decided to put that flat on a truck and drive it 800km over the Autobahn
36:14 <Nothing\> well, that was odd
36:37 <Nothing\> i just did the classic potassium permanganate + glycerine reaction
36:44 <Nothing\> but it didn't react the way it normally does
37:11 <Nothing\> it took it almost a minute for the reaction to start, the when it did go, it just burned slowly instead of at a rapid pace like usual
38:05 <Nothing\> and then it formed this orange substance, which started burning slowly and became a white powder that burned further into carbon
38:13 <Nothing\> usually it just burns straight to carbon
38:46 <Nothing\> i video taped it, so i'll have to upload it once my mom's off the phone
39:18 <Ampera> fuck am I tired
39:51 <Ampera> only about 5 more hours until I can pass the fuck out
39:58 <DHess_US> Nothing\, did it start out cold?
40:17 <Nothing\> DHess_US, yup
40:20 <Nothing\> was around 0
40:32 <Nothing\> my other reactions were done in the summer when it was 20-30c out
40:36 <DHess_US> That probably explains it.
40:59 <Nothing\> and from what i understand, the rule of thumb is that for every 10c the reaction speed halves or doubles, depending whether it's 10c more or 10c less
41:24 <Nothing\> but that's what i was told as a generalization in chemistry, not about this reaction specificially
41:55 <Nothing\> but yeah i figure because the reaction went slower, side products were able to form from the degredation of the potassium permanganate once it started burning and getting hot
42:19 <Nothing\> and the unreacted stuff was broken down into this orange stuff that was further broken down into the white stuff
42:43 <Nothing\> it was hard to tell if the orange/white stuff was reacting with the heat or the air but it burned even slower
43:15 <DHess_US> That is correct, and that reaction demonstrates it be heating up causing the reaction to go faster.
43:24 <Nothing\> anyway, i video taped it so i'm just working on uploading it now
43:43 <Nothing\> DHess_US, interesting, i never heard of it being used to show that
43:45 <DHess_US> But if you start at a colder temperature, then it takes exponentially more time, which also gives more time to other reactions.
44:23 <Nothing\> i wasn't even sure if it was gonna go, i mean only about half the glycerine made contact with it, but it just sat there for about half a minute or more before anything started happening
44:35 <DHess_US> Reactions which require an ice water bath usually do for exactly that reason.
44:44 <Nothing\> yup
44:57 <Nothing\> don't want them to run away with a positive feedback loop re: temperature
45:51 <Nothing\> more reaction -> higher temperature -> more reaction -> higher temperature or sustained high temperature ad infinitum
46:26 <Nothing\> it's times like this i regret dropping out in grade 9 before i had any real lab experience
46:53 <Nothing\> i woulda had a lotta fun i think
56:34 <Nothing\> k weird
56:48 <Nothing\> i can't seem to find the video on my phone to upload to my computer
57:38 <Nothing\> like, looking at my phone's contents via explorer, i know what folder the pics and vids are supposed to be saved to and they're there when i check it out on my phone, but on the computer the last video was from back in june which just makes no sense
57:57 <Nothing\> and of course there are no options on the phone to rename or move the video
58:14 <Nothing\> le sigh
58:29 <Nothing\> thank you steve jobs for making THIS the standard
59:25 <Nothing\> i'm just gonna do a wildcard search for *.mp4 and hope it comes up
59:45 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
59:48 <T3sl4> hey dude
07:38 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4
07:46 <Nothing\> hey man <3 how's it going?
08:20 <T3sl4> having a coffee
22:19 <steve30> "Item contains: One item"
22:26 <steve30> Now that is an excellent ebay description :)
26:54 <Ysjoelfir> you'll get exactly one randim thing :)
34:03 <Ysjoelfir> so steve30, what did you buy?
34:18 <steve30> I didn't buy anything
34:24 <steve30> I was just browsing.
34:50 <steve30> The actual item was shown in the photo and the title. I just thought the description was funny.
36:34 <Ysjoelfir> booooooooooooooring :P
37:26 <steve30> Here's a good one though
37:27 <steve30> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vrc/114624912319?hash=item1ab02d5bbf:g:ItQAAOSwFzZf35LV
39:27 <Ysjoelfir> wow! buy it!
42:16 <steve30> i should go to bed
42:22 <Ysjoelfir> no.
42:28 <Ysjoelfir> you should buy stuff. and drink tea.
44:48 <Nothing\> welp, i bought stardew valley
44:51 <Nothing\> AGAIN
45:08 <Nothing\> bought it on the switch for $40, find it's only $17 on PC
45:33 <Nothing\> and in my experience they cut content out of ports for the switch and ps3
45:33 <Ampera> why did you buy it again, Nothing\
46:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, partly for the convenience of being able to play it on my computer and having cloud saves without having to pay $10 a month for the service
46:20 <Ampera> ah, so you did buy it on steam
46:24 * Ysjoelfir doesn't understand why anyone buys console stuff.
46:25 <Nothing\> partly cuz it's a damn fine game and those devs deserve the money
46:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, aye it was on steam
46:36 <Nothing\> all the games i buy are on steam
46:36 * Ysjoelfir has stardew valley for PC as well, btw
46:52 <Ampera> I do, but I haven't played it in a little while
46:53 <Nothing\> i checked out humble bundle and it doesn't seem to have the same quality of games as it did 10 years ago
46:56 <Ampera> I think it's started to bore me a bit
47:02 <Nothing\> yeah?
47:16 <Nothing\> i know the farming can be a bit much
47:21 <Nothing\> in terms of tedium
47:33 <Ampera> It's a sandbox, but it doesn't flow well. I always feel overwhelmed in terms of what the game seems to expect I do instead of what I want to do
47:37 <Nothing\> but sprinklers help a lot
48:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, well there's no time limit so you can take your time and just do whatever you come across or whatever interests you
48:29 <Ampera> my annoyance is that the dialog and NPC interactions seem to be built for much later in the game
48:35 <Nothing\> i was worried that, like harvest moon, the game would be over after the 2nd year and my performance scrutinized
48:48 <Ampera> so while I'm still starting out, they'll want crops and things I don't have, and it just feels like I'm being slow and stupid
49:04 <Nothing\> oh the quests from the board
49:08 <Nothing\> yeah don't worry about those
49:23 <Ampera> but besides that, it's kinda just got not much to it
49:34 <Nothing\> and some quests, like the bundles in the run down community centre can take years to complete
49:49 <Ampera> it feels like everything is just working in order to get more work
50:05 <Nothing\> cuz it requires a specific item that can only be obtained at a certain time of year, so if you miss that time of year you've gotta wait for it again
50:06 <Ampera> whereas with a game like Minecraft, you have a lot more freedom to marvel at what you've done
50:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol that's how diablo 3 felt to me
50:21 <Ampera> it's like I don't feel like I accomplish anything in stardew valley
50:30 <Nothing\> it felt like that one cocaine psa from the 80's
50:57 <Nothing\> where the guy's like "i do cocaine... so i can work... so i can do more cocaine... so i can work... so i can do more cocaine" while pacing in a room
51:42 <Ampera> some games have fun, chill grinds, stardew valley feels like a village full of people are disappointed in me that I haven't done better with the farm my poor grandfather gave to me
51:56 <Nothing\> only in diablo 3 it's "i kill enemies, so i can get better equipment, so i can kill harder hordes, so i can get a better equipment... etc"
52:12 <Ampera> minecraft I can shut off and dig holes for hours at a time, or build something absolutely monstrous
52:24 <Nothing\> it was still a fun game, but there's little in the way of end-game content so it's just meh by that point
52:35 <Nothing\> there's the spirit
52:40 <Nothing\> what's your opinion of terraria?
52:44 <Ampera> boring
52:48 <Nothing\> fair enough
52:58 <Ysjoelfir> you guys should start playing factorio with a friend of mine and me
53:09 <Ampera> I'll start playing it, think I'll finally play it long enough for it to be interesting, and then I get bored and don't feel like torturing myself just to make the game fun
53:14 <Nothing\> i tried factorio and i wasn't a fan
53:26 <electrohead> o/
53:27 <Ampera> I like factorio, and own it
53:40 <Ampera> my issue with it is I'm a bit too stupid for it, oddly enough
53:41 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, there's another game i came across last night that looks like a clone of factorio, lemme see what it was
53:46 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
53:53 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
54:13 <Ampera> I feel like all my logistics solutions suck, and I feel really limited with what I have to work with
54:25 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, we are right now playing on our.... probably 20th attempt xD failed miserably for so many times, but its still so muich fun to investigate new methods to solve problems
54:29 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, mindustry
54:30 <Ampera> I enjoyed buildcraft for minecraft, but once you take away the third dimension it gets more annoying
54:32 <Nothing\> that's the name of it
54:39 <Ysjoelfir> yep, read about it Nothing\
54:44 <Ampera> Satisfactory is a similar game, it's basically factorio in 3D
55:11 <Ampera> but Satisfactory is anything but, it feels like once I've gotten past the tutorial, there is no goal
55:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, i wondered if that would be worth getting or not
55:22 <Nothing\> i mean, i like the idea behind factorio
55:27 <Ampera> I think in general, I'm not a big fan of games that make me think hard
55:30 <Nothing\> i just didn't like the mobs
55:37 <Ysjoelfir> i have played satisfactory. and yes, exactly that (the no goal thing)
55:47 <Ampera> for me games are relaxing stress relief, I don't enjoy games that feel like work
55:50 <Nothing\> plus i found the mechanics kind of confusing and awkward but i'm sure you get past that
55:59 <Ampera> like minecraft, I can make cool things, but it's around a core of casual stress relief
56:01 <Nothing\> of factorio
56:02 <Ysjoelfir> it is a nice one, calm and relaxing, but... its somehow missing the point to do all the stuff
56:09 <Nothing\> i keep wanting to type factoria
56:23 <Nothing\> maybe cuz my o is right next to my a key
56:36 <Ysjoelfir> I call it Fucktorio from time to time when it annoys me :D
56:47 <Nothing\> but no, factoria is the planet trump got banned from
56:57 <Nothing\> lol
57:23 <electrohead> hey guys
57:27 * electrohead offers hot wings
57:32 <Ysjoelfir> hi again mr. head
57:45 <Nothing\> lately i found this interesting game called "luck be a landlord"
57:45 * Ysjoelfir wants wings, but expects himself to puke if he tries one
57:49 * Ampera offers cold wings
57:56 <Nothing\> there's a free demo, or a relatively cheap version, which i bought
58:03 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, you sick bastard
58:04 <Nothing\> but it's a roguelike slot machine game
58:05 <Ysjoelfir> not because I think they are bad, but because I just had a huge burger and feel sooooooooooooo full
58:18 <Ampera> I have a nice plate of fuck all in front of me
58:30 <Ampera> I made four hot dogs last night and some oven fries, and that's all I've had into the morning
58:35 <Ysjoelfir> cool. was it a nice fucking?
58:36 <Ampera> haven't eaten much else since Friday
58:43 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I wish
59:47 <Nothing\> where you earn coins for each item that comes up (doesn't need to be in a row or anything), and every turn you can choose from one of 3 items to add to the slot machine and some items will have effects on other items that can gain you more money. Like you can have a thief who takes your money, and you can have a banana peel which destroys the thief and provides you with twice the total money he's taken from you
00:02 <Nothing\> it's really unique, not to mention addictive a la skinner boxes
01:17 <Nothing\> the story being you're in a hotel or something and have to pay a certain amount of rent every few turns, so you've gotta make that money
01:34 <Nothing\> and if you fail to, you start over
26:46 <Nothing\> are steam points even worth anything?
27:13 <Nothing\> apparently i have 30,000 saved up, but when i go to spend them it's all useless shit like skins and profile backgrounds and stuff like that
28:13 <Nothing\> i figured they'd have a system like Nintendo where you get something like 1 or 10 cents in points for every dollar you spend and you can redeem them on anything on the eshop
30:45 <Nothing\> i've got a buncha these badges, but apparently they're only worth like 7 cents
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49:15 <Nothing\> THERE WE GO
49:28 <Nothing\> finally got the weird potassium permanganate reaction video up
49:30 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEzW2TJ2a4s&ab_channel=Nothing%5C
54:54 <Nothing\> i have no idea what that orange/white boiling liquid is halfway through
55:31 <Nothing\> i thought maybe it was glycerin mixed with carbon or something but it kept burning until there was just carbon left
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12:02 <Guest|96552> hi
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17:33 <Nothing\> way to give us a chance to respond
17:41 <Nothing\> a whole 12 seconds
17:48 * Nothing\ facepalms
23:30 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
26:46 <TheDude> Nothing\, if you really had the intention to respond, you would have had your fingers already on the keys, ready to type
26:51 <TheDude> but you didn't, so that's on you
27:39 <TheDude> haha, I bet he left the channel thinking "ugh, nobody is in here, why do they even bother having irc?"
28:34 <Nothing\> lol
28:39 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
28:45 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\ and TheDude
28:52 <Nothing\> doing alright
29:21 <TheDude> meh, I've been better
29:27 <TheDude> mostly bored
29:35 <Nothing\> thinking i might go down for a nap. i'm finally catching up on all thesleep i missed while i was sick
29:45 <TheDude> somewhat irritated that I've been unable to reach my bloody fucking bank today
30:27 <TheDude> you call them, the automated call thing asks you to select <option>
30:35 <TheDude> you select it and it thanks you for calling them
30:37 <TheDude> hangs up
30:39 <TheDude> -.-
30:47 <TheDude> what the fucking fuck
30:53 <TheDude> you go on their website
31:05 <TheDude> they have a web chat thing for customer support
31:24 <TheDude> you click what you want, it tells you a consultant will respond shortly
31:37 <TheDude> and after that it just randomly disconnects and tells you nobody was able to tend to you
31:42 <TheDude> sent them an email
31:59 <TheDude> and got an automatic response that they're really swamped with work and it will take them a while to get back to me
32:14 <TheDude> and in the meantime, I'm unable to use my card
32:23 <TheDude> bloody fucking absolute cunt shitheads
33:20 <Ampera> 90 minutes until I can finally have a nice peaceful sleep
03:42 <Nothing\> oh yay
03:55 <Nothing\> ontario's going into another state of emergency wednesday night
04:01 <Nothing\> 12:01am thursday morning
04:29 <Nothing\> which means a stay at home order, no travel unless essential like groceries or prescriptions
04:35 <Nothing\> no indoor gatherings
04:59 <Nothing\> for some reason they said outdoor gatherings are limited to 5 people
05:15 <Nothing\> but if you're ordered to stay at home, how are outdoor social gatherings still allowed?
05:24 <Nothing\> that's not exactly essential
05:56 <Nothing\> and on top of that, they're sending kids back to school before the state of emergency and stay at home order is due to be over
06:29 <Nothing\> i hope doug ford gets politically lynched over this
07:17 <Nothing\> i used to like him, but this is showing his true character and it's ugly as you would expect from any politicians
08:21 <Nothing\> especially helping other politicians to cover it up when they traveled outside of the country for the holidays while telling everyone else they couldn't so much as spend christmas with their families and friends
09:24 <Nothing\> our finance minister already resigned because he was caught vacationing in st bart's and a whole bunch of others have been found to have vacationed over the holidays
10:17 <Nothing\> and ford's trying to say he had no idea, like the premier has no idea where his underlings are. especially when there's already been a session of parliament that they would have missed
29:14 <DHess_US> No, Ford said the finance minister didn't *tell* him.
29:20 <DHess_US> He never said he didn't know.
29:46 <DHess_US> He tried to imply he didn't know while not lying.
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44:30 <Ysjoelfir> gimme some, too
09:57 <rust_collector> and me, i need more fridge
12:43 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, wake up!
26:26 <Ysjoelfir> I am kinda awake
26:39 <rust_collector> good. it is time to go to bed
26:52 <rust_collector> well. sort of
29:56 <Ysjoelfir> Jep, I agree
30:11 <rust_collector> whaaaat? butt
30:18 <rust_collector> ok, have fun with that
30:23 <Ysjoelfir> I have to prepare mentally for the dish we chose for tomorrow. from that cookbook from yours.
30:32 <rust_collector> oh noez
30:55 <Ysjoelfir> yez!
30:59 <rust_collector> pinnebrød?
31:05 <Ysjoelfir> Nope. We chose to try Fiskepudding.
31:08 <rust_collector> oh
31:22 <rust_collector> well, that is pretty safe, if you like fish
31:46 <Ysjoelfir> We do. Which is the main reason for trying it :P
33:35 <rust_collector> it can be sort of... bland. it depends a lot on.. well, what you put in it. most of the time, it is made out of tasteless white fish, so...
34:33 <rust_collector> but you can eat it on bread, I tend to glue it in place with caviar
34:51 <Ysjoelfir> I wanted to try halibut, as that is kinda cheap here atm
35:07 <rust_collector> sure. go for it
36:11 <rust_collector> that is the main reason why people eat fish. it exista, and is not too expensive
36:41 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D
36:48 <rust_collector> well, i will be here, installing windows
37:08 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy doing that. IU thought you prefer linux?
38:22 <rust_collector> well, now that windows 10 is getting sorted out, I will use that, and not some toy OS from finland-land
39:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
39:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Woo-hoo! https://t.co/TAMudnPaEO
40:23 <rust_collector> well, it is for this guy at work. I do this every few years.
41:05 <Ysjoelfir> Ah. ok, that sounds legit
41:07 <rust_collector> this time he has avast and mcaffee, and the windows thingie. and winzip driver updater.
41:13 <Ysjoelfir> xD
41:25 <Ysjoelfir> I see. that kind of PC expert
42:07 <rust_collector> yes, it lives in a nice little bag. i think he takes it out of the bag, does what he has to, and puts it back in the bag
42:50 <rust_collector> the thing in the control panel, or whatever they call it, says 61% of the battery power has been used by solitaire collection
44:01 <Ysjoelfir> oh wow :D that sounds nearly like my mums pc
44:14 <rust_collector> oh well, he said he did not want anything on it, just put windows on it. but I see he has a ton of pictures on it, so I guess I should copy that over. lots of pics from 2014 and up.
44:23 <rust_collector> wifes grandma does the same thing
45:27 <rust_collector> I am not sure if she even uses it every year
46:44 <Ysjoelfir> "I want you to jkust delete everything." - "even your 25 gb of pictures from your cat?" - "ARE YOU CRAZY??!!?!?!? NO!!!!" - "You said everything." - "Well obgviously not things I value!"
47:08 <rust_collector> he would not say anything if I just nuked it
47:11 <rust_collector> but
47:12 <rust_collector> eh
47:16 <rust_collector> seems weird
48:34 <Ysjoelfir> indeed it does
53:35 <rust_collector> ok, it is not that bad. 2114 pictures
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54:06 <Ysjoelfir> nah, thats not much
54:33 <rust_collector> i do not know how he has managed to play solitaire that much, with all these popup things
55:06 <Ysjoelfir> ew :X
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57:25 <Ysjoelfir> so, I'm off to bed. gn8 all you people
57:40 <rc2> close enough. have fish-slurry dreams
57:51 <Ysjoelfir> I try :P
57:58 <rc2> eew
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50:43 <hsn> Gm
50:57 <rust_collector> NO! go back to bed!
51:02 <rust_collector> arrr!
51:11 <hsn> Wait
51:35 <rust_collector> no, do it now
52:00 <hsn> I got one big giant beer glass
52:04 <hsn> For milk
52:38 <rust_collector> ok, did you get an insect bite on your pee-pee?
52:49 <rust_collector> or does it need to be reloaded?
52:53 <hsn> My work starts after 8 mins
53:07 <rust_collector> perfect
53:14 <hsn> But cant complete the milk
53:18 <hsn> Finish
53:23 <rust_collector> because?
53:29 <hsn> So me late today
53:31 <hsn> Still hote
53:35 <hsn> Hot
53:44 <rust_collector> the milk is still hot?
53:51 <hsn> And i dont enjoy it while driving
54:08 <hsn> Yes my milk is boiled in tea leafs
54:18 <rust_collector> you people.....
54:21 <hsn> With honey
55:40 <hsn> And i want to show my seeds
55:47 <rust_collector> oh, you got them?
56:00 <hsn> Yess one week ago
56:19 <hsn> The vid is uploading
56:21 <rust_collector> shipping does seem to take forever
57:06 <hsn> Jamaica airport it was stuck there
58:01 <hsn> I should be in office now lol
58:19 <rust_collector> I should be in bed
58:19 <hsn> Well i should get my nov salary
58:48 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/gf95NdA4JE5Vo2uF7
00:11 <hsn> Should u
00:24 <rust_collector> so, when can you smoke that?
00:28 <hsn> Nah .. go out enjoy the green
00:37 <rust_collector> well, it is 6 in the morning, I guess i should
00:40 <hsn> Smoke seeds?
00:58 <rust_collector> the stuff that grow out of the seeds
01:19 <hsn> Idk but appearantly 2-3 kinds grow out of 5
01:29 <rust_collector> I bet Ysjoelfir would like your melk
01:40 <hsn> And the expensive ones still inside
01:56 <hsn> Honey milk
02:05 <hsn> And tea
02:22 <rust_collector> yes. you said that. i think he would like that stuff
03:19 <hsn> Im trying to find proper image or recipe for it
04:18 <hsn> Anyways
04:42 <hsn> The big boss
04:53 <hsn> Which likes me
05:17 <hsn> Doesnt like the new developer i just added to team
05:54 <rust_collector> is he ok?
06:15 <hsn> My direct boss .. gave him same as my salary .. while my salary was derived from big boss 1-2 year ago
06:21 <hsn> Yeah he is ok
06:55 <hsn> He was leavimg the company .. and they give him better salary
07:10 <rust_collector> mmkay
07:34 <hsn> And i told my boss
08:01 <hsn> I dont like my salary but im not going to ask until we release this toilet
08:10 <hsn> And im in hurry to release
08:17 <hsn> Its fcking 3 years
08:53 <rust_collector> so, why don't you go to the office, and yell that you are leaving, then go outside, to the store, buy a snack, then go back, and do your job, then eat your snack at lunch.
09:10 <rust_collector> at least then you get to yell, and go, and have a snack
09:28 <hsn> rust_collector: because .. i dont know how to yell fir such thing
09:39 <rust_collector> if he is asking why you were yelling, maybe say you have earbuds in, and could not hear a thing
09:53 <hsn> I think im in hate with my direct boss
10:09 <rust_collector> it is like saying "I am leaving" just very very loud
10:19 <hsn> I blame him for acting like mr know it all but he doesnt and doesnt care
10:52 <rust_collector> well, if he knew it all, he would probably be doing something else
10:53 <hsn> No reviews .. no comments when u need him .. and when u in middle of somthing he jumps with random crap ideas
11:07 <rust_collector> that is fitting
11:26 <hsn> Fitting
11:45 <hsn> Thats fisting
11:50 <rust_collector> random crap fits well in the toiler business, I guess
12:37 <hsn> When i started he told me there is controller u ll join us as developer
13:01 <hsn> And then i asked for enclosure help so i design pcbs
13:38 <hsn> And then i had to find ready aluminum extrussion enclosures .. and do slide my pcb in
14:06 <hsn> And now to certify against all the standards .. while they dont provide them
14:37 <rust_collector> ooff. standards...
14:45 <hsn> And then suddenly he jumps to my design wants to add hanging screws in pcb that pushes the floor of the emclosure
14:57 <hsn> In order to "pass the vibration"
16:03 <hsn> Imagine u open sliding pcb
16:15 <hsn> In an aluminum extrusion
16:31 <hsn> And u find two screws points to the floor
16:41 <hsn> U slide and its
16:44 <hsn> Sssssssseeeeeq
16:57 <hsn> Scratchy sound
17:23 <rust_collector> add tiny teflon screw shoes?
17:43 <rust_collector> are these boards really big?
17:47 <hsn> Nah
17:58 <hsn> Not big .. no one knows anything
18:16 <hsn> He just bring suggestions from his imagination
19:06 <rust_collector> well, that is why it is good to be boss, I guess
19:35 <hsn> While im busy with not the design .. but the software quality he jumped and suggested this .. if u ask him but vibration profile is this much frequency and this much G power .. he will say .. haauh
23:32 <hsn> I dont mind a boss that brings good and bad suggestion
24:22 <hsn> But not a one who acts like he knows it .. and he is expert while he knows nothing and randomly throw his ideas into u
26:37 <hsn> I got disconnected so idk if u said somthing
27:23 <rust_collector> heh. well, if I did, I am not going to retype all of that.
28:07 <hsn> Lol
28:21 <rust_collector> i guess your job is to keep that guy busy, so he does not mess up anyone elses work. well done mr sir
28:50 <hsn> Yes thats good to keep him busy
54:21 <rust_collector> mm. so, i just tried smoked salmon wrapped in cheese
57:03 <rust_collector> that could have been much better than it was
59:15 <rust_collector> I mean, I would not feel bad about feeding it to starving refugee children, but I would enjoy watching them trying to not throw up while they eat
26:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Power fail, of course. One thing I didn't have room for in the road trip car was my power station and solar panel...
27:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Was going to head to the beach and shoot a screen capture video with my laptop. Should still have enough battery....
32:35 <steve30> hi
45:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Well there's your problem. https://t.co/lxbaQ7R6SX
58:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For all you rust aficionados https://t.co/MC86TfFA6a
06:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Let's play "let's see what twitter finds offensive today!" https://t.co/WO2LiwNMpF
18:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Can @Zvyozdochka reply to this tweet with simply "kittens" and we'll see if twitter flags it...
40:29 * T3sl4 plants steve30, wonders if coffee berries will sprout https://i.redd.it/dicdbsukt0b61.jpg
42:29 <steve30> hehe
42:48 <steve30> On that subject, i should probably get a cup of coffee
43:19 <T3sl4> i just had a tea
44:39 <steve30> I have to go out in the rain later
45:01 * steve30 hisses at the clouds
20:07 * Halcyon hisses at steve30 
20:21 <steve30> meow?
20:24 <Halcyon> :P
20:58 <K> hello frogs
36:11 <T3sl4> oh no, the water's turning all the K's gay
37:37 <K> :|
38:58 * Halcyon straightens K
39:03 <Halcyon> There we go, good as new :P
39:43 <T3sl4> well, that irons that out
41:44 <K> no kinks here, boss!
44:41 <T3sl4> vanilla, the kinkiest kink
45:59 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
57:07 * Halcyon quiches Ampera
59:04 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
03:06 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
03:13 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir 
03:15 <Ampera> how are you doing Ysjoelfir
03:45 <Halcyon> I'm going OK
03:53 <Halcyon> The air cond was out at work today
04:01 <Halcyon> Had to shut a whole bunch of things down
04:12 <Halcyon> Basically did nothing all day except walk around with my shoes off
04:20 <Ampera> er
04:24 <Ampera> why did you have your shoes off
04:43 <Halcyon> Because it was 28 degrees indoor and it felt good
04:52 <Halcyon> I didn't bring a change of shorts otherwise I would have worn those too
05:17 <steve30> I have the AC on downstairs
05:18 <Ampera> things must be way chiller in Australia, most, if not all places of work really don't want you to be barefoot
05:28 <Halcyon> I had socks on
05:41 <Ampera> still barefoot, just with socks
05:47 <Ampera> 28 also isn't all that hot
06:03 <Ampera> that's about how hot my room gets during the winter when I have no ventilation on
06:11 <Halcyon> It was hot enough, the server room started complaining
06:17 <Halcyon> We had to basically shut it all down
06:26 <Halcyon> The backup chiller, which was supposed to kick in... didn't.
06:28 <Halcyon> So yeh, fun.
06:45 <Ampera> was debating mentioning the utility of backup systems
06:52 <Ampera> but, perhaps, a backup for the backup :P
07:03 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Ampera :) I'm fine, but I might have the covids \o/
07:08 <Halcyon> The building we're in has had air conditioning problems since the day it was built
07:10 <Ampera> oh that's good
07:19 <Ampera> out and over with it
07:37 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Time off work?
08:04 <Ampera> when this building was built, electric air conditioning had only existed for 18 years
08:24 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon: I'm unemployed anyways atm, so.....
08:46 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, are you waiting on test results?
09:28 <Ysjoelfir> nope, since I'm only second contact I don't even get a test anymore in germanistan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09:42 <Ampera> wha
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> yep
09:47 <Ampera> I can walk down the street today and get a test
09:57 <Ampera> probably wouldn't even have to pay much, if anything
10:12 <Ampera> I mean, I get their reasoning to be honest
10:21 <Ampera> the best place for someone who has covid is not going out to get a test
10:39 <Ysjoelfir> Yes, but thats not the reason. Germany just wasn't smart enough to buy enough tests, and they repeated that un-smartness while ordering vaccines. so..... no.
10:48 <Ampera> even with the drive through testing places, you gotta think even if you don't have covid, you're in a line full of people who think they do
10:55 <Ampera> haha
11:14 <Ampera> and to think I was ranking on NY being the bureaucracy capital of the US
11:19 * steve30 pets Ysjoelfir with the social distancing broom
11:39 <Ampera> we have enough vaccines, we're just giving them to hospitals that aren't equipped for mass inoculation
12:26 <Ampera> so while they might have the fridges (or might not) to store them, they're understaffed as it is, and simply are centralized single places that make it hard for the people eligible to be vaccinated to get one
12:57 <Ampera> while all the counties who have plans and sites in place for mass vaccination since forever are wondering wtf
12:57 <Ysjoelfir> since mrs. spouse said at the doctors that a child in the Kindergarden hat the covids and now she feels sick, she is already contact 1. she gets a test, I don't. Especially since children are basically sterile, according to german education ministries.
13:18 <Ampera> children are sterile if you load them into a furnace
15:10 <Halcyon> Ampera, you don't generally get out of the car at drive-through testing places?
15:17 <Ampera> never been
15:22 <Ampera> my guess is they do you through the window
15:27 <Halcyon> So even if the person behind you has it, you aren't going to catch it
15:31 <Ysjoelfir> thats what everyone who has even remotely seen a child in their live knows. but not the german ministries. they just decide to hide studies themselves have ordered because they would confirm that they were idiots the whole last year and just didn't do anything while covid was "tame" in the summer. instead they propagate that schools and childcare need to reopen ASAP and that those places are one of the SAFEST EVER for children to
15:31 <Ysjoelfir> pandemic
15:47 <Halcyon> Yes, they "do you" through the window
15:48 <Halcyon> Hahaha
16:06 <Ampera> Halcyon, airborne particles, surfaces, you all being done in the same spot, I'd imagine the chances aren't perfect either way, but it's more risk than standing in the park
16:25 <Ampera> since, considering ~1 in 10 test positive rates, there is likely going to be at least one person who has it in line
16:41 * Ampera pops a cap in Halcyon reverse drive-thru style
16:49 <Halcyon> COVID-19 doesn't last long in the air. Whilst it's "airborne", it's the droplets that are suspended in air, albeit for a very short time and distance.
17:27 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, Europe simultaneously takes itself too serious, and also manages to be a massive problem zone anyways
17:35 <Halcyon> The virus is as good as dead in outside air, unless you cough in close proximity of someone, or the virus settles and survives on a surface
17:38 <Ampera> Germany is a country of paradoxes.
18:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, I just said surfaces, and wind is certainly a thing
18:06 <Halcyon> Even then, the viral load has to be sufficiently high for someone to catch it.
18:43 <Halcyon> Wind yes, but with wind comes increased evaporation. The virus particles travel through air in droplet form, not as the raw virus.
18:43 <Ampera> my point is even if it is safe
18:45 <Ampera> what have you done?
18:51 <Ampera> if you're sick, you stay home anyways
18:56 <Halcyon> Exactly
19:32 <Ampera> Halcyon, around this time of year, evaporation is particularly low, as while the air is dry, it's also frigid
19:43 <Ampera> even in summer, evaporation is difficult despite the increased surface area, as we have incredibly humid air
19:48 <Ysjoelfir> yep, they indeed do. which is one reason I am not a europe union fan. there is just to much shitmongerie here.
20:03 <Ampera> not by indochina standards, but 50-80 sat @ 80f isn't uncommon
20:38 <Ysjoelfir> laws deciding over the bend radius of yellow fruits to decide when they are allowed to be called a banana and such things. paid by taxpayers money.
20:44 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, as much as you might know to the contrary, I'm not sure Germany is the single core problem of the EU. I think the issue with the EU is they're trying to tie politically and ethnically diverse nations into a single government way too hard
20:50 <K> fwiw here govt is considering involving veterinaries and dentists in innoculation effort
20:58 <Ampera> why not
21:00 <K> kinda makes sense
21:09 <Ampera> you just need someone who can handle needles safely
21:14 <Ysjoelfir> thats exactly the problem Ampera.
21:25 <K> yea, we got some moderna vaccines, less hassle about storage and transport
21:27 <Halcyon> It's not just evaporation though, temperature, surface type, light, all have a significant impact on the virus. Once you get below about 20 degrees C, the lifetime of the virus significantly decreases.
21:36 <Ampera> I like the concept of a treaty union, but the EU hasn't been one, probably since it's been the EU
22:02 <Ampera> trade, transit, and residence agreements are all really nice, even a unified currency can be convenient (despite having its own problems)
22:23 <K> they should turn down the internal heating of public spaces to 15
22:40 <Halcyon> Or turn it up above 30-40 degrees, either way :P
22:49 <Ampera> but once they start getting hard into criminal law, such as copyright
23:18 <Ysjoelfir> despite that they also want to create a system of unity that just can't work. like with the vaccine orderings. that stuff we can get here has to be stored at minus 70C the whole time or otherwise its unusable. instead of delegating the doses for countries that just CAN'T transport and store that because they don't have the machines for that to some other country who can and needs it, they just decide to store it for when they have
23:18 <Ysjoelfir> technology. wtf?
23:22 <Halcyon> On many surfaces. the viable life is measured in minutes or hours and that's assuming you are licking surfaces
23:32 <Ampera> no matter what, celsius is the /one/ unit/scale I've never been able to grasp in my mind
23:44 <Ampera> if you told me 10 meters away I'd get that, but I have no fucking clue what 15, 30, 40c are
23:53 <Halcyon> 100 degrees is the temperature of boiling H2O
23:56 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 30c to f
23:57 <EEVBlog> The result is: 86 f
23:58 <Halcyon> 0 is Freezing point
24:27 <Ampera> yes I know the definition of the reverse celsius scale
24:52 <Ampera> the problem is I can't map 32 <-> 212 to 0 <-> 100 in my head
24:55 <K> ice is 0, scolding hot watter is close enough to be 100
25:01 <Ampera> especially when it's weather when half that scale isn't even used
25:15 <Halcyon> *shrug*
25:19 <Halcyon> Sounds like a you problem :P
25:25 <K> yea u weird
25:27 <Ysjoelfir> I have the same problem, just the other way around. I can kind of envision what a mile, inch, galon, cup, whatever, is, but what is one fahrenheit? :D
25:28 <Ampera> /ban halcyon being annoying
25:29 <Ampera> whoops
25:51 <K> anyoning
26:02 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, with f it's easy though, because 100 is fucking hot and 0 is fucking cold
26:09 <Ampera> and 50 is not that hot and not that cold
26:12 <K> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyon
26:23 <K> 50 is about tea temp?
26:40 <Ampera> with C 50 is you're on the fucking sun, and 0 is mildly cold
26:57 <Ampera> K, if you like tepid tea
27:04 <Ampera> I'm talking weather/room temperature
27:12 <K> ah.
27:18 <Ampera> good tea temperature I imagine is probably around 120f or more
27:25 <K> 50C
27:33 <Ampera> 120f ~= 50C
27:34 <K> EEVBlog convert 50C to f
27:34 <EEVBlog> The result is: 122 f
27:40 <K> yay
27:50 * Ysjoelfir now reads about anyons
28:12 <Ampera> I have a few snap points for where C matches F, but I can only vaguely guess as to what 27C is
28:21 <Ampera> whereas if you said, 72f, I'd know /exactly/ what that feels like
28:29 <Halcyon> :P
28:44 <Halcyon> This is why I like Youtubers like LGR... they use metric
28:49 <Ampera> I could bake a cake using SI, drive somewhere in km, and fill up my tank in liters
28:50 <Halcyon> It makes sense
29:00 <Ampera> LGR uses both
29:03 <Ysjoelfir> 27c is roughly a warm summer day. to warm for my taste. above 30 it gets nasty for my taste.
29:04 <Ampera> like almost any american
29:12 <Halcyon> He put the stupid units in brackets
29:20 <Halcyon> But in spoken word he uses metric
29:22 <Ampera> I've yet to meet the American who does not use the SI
29:45 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, that comes down to where you live and what you're used to
29:48 <Ampera> whoever he is, he's probably in his 80's and not gonna be a problem in a few more years anyways
30:21 <Ampera> good summer day is between 80 and 90, higher than that gets a bit iffy, and once you go beyond 100f it's insultingly hot
30:27 <Ampera> and if you reach 120f you're arizona
30:33 <Ampera> and also dead
30:59 <Ysjoelfir> yeah Halcyon, I expect you to feel mildly cold at 30C, preparing to get a hoodie :)
31:19 <Ampera> The unit conversations are all fun, but the fastest way to piss me off is to insist that the US somehow doesn't use the SI
31:26 <Ampera> when we use it about as much as we use our own system
31:37 <Ysjoelfir> can't blame us, thats what we'
31:42 <Ysjoelfir> ...
31:43 <Ampera> you literally cannot go into a store and buy a package of food of any sort without it being marked in both units
31:48 <Ysjoelfir> re tought in school
32:09 <Ysjoelfir> "the americans are the only nation to keep using that stupid imperial system!"
32:15 <Ampera> that's wrong too
32:20 <Ampera> because we don't use the imperial system and never did
32:20 <Ysjoelfir> well, and the brits... and the canadians....
32:28 <Ampera> the brits and canadians did
32:30 <Ampera> we did not
32:46 <Ysjoelfir> I know. but you used something close to that^^
33:07 <Ampera> we technically use an SI-pegged adaptation of a subset of units from a precursor to the imperial system, which was redefined by the UK after we left the union
33:17 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, bah, shorts weather is anywhere from 10 degrees C and upwards
33:21 <Ampera> the official name is the US Customary System
33:46 <Ysjoelfir> to make it easier: your tons and other stuff were a tad bigger. ^^
33:55 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, yes, I agree strongly to that
34:33 <Ampera> while I'm playing the person who gets upset if words aren't used right, the metric system hasn't been used in well over a hundred years, ever since it was replaced by the SI
34:50 <Ysjoelfir> true
34:50 <Ampera> the SI is /a/ metric system, it's not /the/ metric system
34:54 <K> si, senior!
34:59 <Ysjoelfir> xD
35:05 * Ampera hugs the mexikan
35:13 <K> spanish!
35:27 <K> or portugese too, maybe?
37:31 <Halcyon> Oh Ampera, I had to laugh today
37:45 <Ampera> that sucks
37:49 <Halcyon> Our ESXi server died. Shut it down, it didn't want to boot back up (software issue)
37:52 <Ampera> I hate it when I have to do that
38:06 <Halcyon> Our systadmin is so anti anything that isn't Microsoft or some expensive service agreement
38:43 <Ampera> why's he not using Hyper-V then?
38:45 <Ampera> the fraud!
38:51 <Halcyon> No idea
38:59 <Halcyon> It would have been better
41:11 <Halcyon> I don't know how the hell he has things configured but one server not starting resulted in all the network shares being down
41:15 <Halcyon> So that was fun :P
41:37 <steve30> I have to go out in the cold soon. Hopefully it won't rain too much.
44:05 * Halcyon offers steve30 an umbrellan and a coat
44:09 <Halcyon> -n
47:34 * Halcyon installs Novell NetWare on steve30's computer
48:06 <steve30> havign never used that, i'm not sure I'd know what to do with it
48:21 <Halcyon> I used it in high school
49:35 <steve30> well, i'm off to the doctors'. Back later.
49:59 <Ysjoelfir> so, official order from the doctor: Mrs spouse has to quarantine herself and isn't allowed to go outside or anything. I, who is always around her, don't have to do anything. I can move around however I like.
50:42 <Halcyon> How the hell does that make sense?
52:40 <K> you are to self-isolate and be reasonable
53:15 <Ysjoelfir> It makes as much sense as saying that children are basically immune and sterile. So I don't wonder the slightest bit.
53:27 <Ysjoelfir> K: I do that for roughly a year now, so.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
55:19 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klaJqofCsu4
55:22 <Halcyon> I want these lamps
55:28 <Halcyon> Only because I can't have them :P
55:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
57:07 <Ysjoelfir> I recently discovered "new" style led filament immitation lamps. those look realy authentic like the old carbon filament incandescent bulbs
58:57 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kuK_3Tu_CPBKv-3UO-aF_yfaAZNS4hIq/view?usp=sharing
59:15 <Halcyon> Oh neat
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> yeah
06:27 <Ysjoelfir> though its more like a mood lamp they say. it has only .5W.
06:41 <Ysjoelfir> but I found it bright enough to be used in my bedroom as a reading lamp
06:54 <Halcyon> I prefer subtle lighting
06:55 <Ysjoelfir> it also makes a realy warm light which makes me sleepy, so thats perfect
07:06 <Halcyon> I have dimmers on almost every light in my house and almost always run them at minimum
08:42 <Ysjoelfir> we use a whole bunch of led fairylights and led strips for all kind of lighting. thats enough most of the time
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21:21 <Ampera> When I eventually buy a house, I intend to vy for the most efficient lighting possible
21:30 <Ampera> /except/ for christmas time
21:42 <Ampera> as under no circumstances will I buy LED christmas lights
21:45 <Ampera> it's immoral I say
22:34 <Ysjoelfir> I agree, but mrs. spouse likes her fancy colorful led lamps
22:59 <Ampera> I wish they made RGB bulbs that work over X10
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39:49 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo! "Zgr is on the way with your delivery!"
39:56 <Ysjoelfir> wtf is that for a name?
40:00 <Ysjoelfir> Hi, my name is Zgr
40:50 <Ampera> how do you say it
40:56 <Ampera> zigger?
41:22 <Ysjoelfir> ssssskkrrr? I dunno? K? Maybe thats something from your area?
42:57 <K> u wot?
43:14 <K> no, Zgr sounds like a bad variable name to me
43:20 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
44:01 <K> our names usualy end with "s" for m or "a"/"e" for m
44:06 <K> for f
44:18 <Ysjoelfir> maybe thats a unisex name!
44:27 <K> dont have those i think
26:23 <T3sl4> wow, that's advanced simpsonsshitposting https://i.redd.it/iq7o4azes0b61.jpg
26:43 <Ysjoelfir> lol
52:19 <steve30> hi
52:54 <rust_collector> ok, so today is a day too. it looks a lot like yesterday. That is not very interesting
53:27 <Ysjoelfir> indeed not
53:32 <Ysjoelfir> its a boring one as well
54:03 <rust_collector> oh. I knew I should have gone into hibernation
54:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
55:16 <rust_collector> or at least go to the mail box, and see if I got some bills or something
57:19 <rust_collector> did you see hsn posting videos this morning? milk-tea
57:35 <K> disgusting.
57:56 <rust_collector> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNZcO13kjtwc5OiNhn_QOitALt_lmbwoPiri-WmhFWwwRVHQVYVBbsgHDbLzUpKzA/photo/AF1QipN0upGhLI31vnvJ28S1dJ7vKyv8ATqySkXUAeCg?key=TENENFZsaVlqWDNnZWRyM0IwU0RlWUVuUTZqdHdR
58:49 <K> no, i refuse!
59:40 <K> hah, for a moment i thought he will dump it on the poor plants
59:55 <rust_collector> lol
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