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03:22 * canadaguest curiously pokes rust_collector with a mgb wiper blade
09:04 <rust_collector> canadaguest, 2002 corolla wagon
09:14 <canadaguest> ah
09:22 <canadaguest> I do like some toyotas (but older tho)
09:45 <rust_collector> yes, they were pretty good until 2004
10:03 <rust_collector> they are still not bad, but it is not like they used to be
10:46 <canadaguest> 2004 is way too new for any cars to me :)
11:25 <rust_collector> well, they still exist, so I have to keep them going
11:53 <rust_collector> this one is such a messed up mix of random parts
12:18 <canadaguest> mm
13:30 <rust_collector> van engine, little corolla. it will pull anything, but there is not guarantee it will stop
14:58 <canadaguest> well give me a 1992 toyota and I won't mind keeping it :)
15:14 <canadaguest> either way good luck with re the jacked car outdoor
15:39 <rust_collector> Meh, I need a strip of steel... we will see
16:14 <rust_collector> I have an audi coming probably on monday, maybe I can just snag a strip from that
19:46 <rust_collector> I have a sheet on 0.9mm, it is a bit thick for this. too many shapes to form
21:21 <rust_collector> 0.025" stainless... nope...
23:23 <canadaguest> sheet that reminds me I need to recheck if I'll have something to cut terminal blocks apart nicely
24:23 <rust_collector> sheet man!
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25:04 <rust_collector> hey!
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32:20 <canadaguest> forgot about this one yesterday morning but for something like https://www.chipquik.com/store/index.php?cPath=490 what does one use the adhesive for? is that the kind where you glue a resistor to the pcb or not that usercase?
33:22 <rust_collector> to stick things to other things?
33:50 <rust_collector> you have quite a few different ones on that page
34:46 <rust_collector> wow! I can buy an aftermarket replacement bumper for the corolla, lol
35:08 <rust_collector> maybe I should do that, because mine has been pretty smashed
37:00 <canadaguest> rust_collector oh hm you're right about that. still I wonder what kind of glue it is tho - obviously not for wood (or was I wrong there)
37:28 <rust_collector> you can probably use it on glue too
37:49 <rust_collector> probably more as a sealer
38:54 <rust_collector> https://www.chipquik.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=490001
39:05 <rust_collector> there, that will stick stuff to a pcb
39:07 <canadaguest> ty anyhow, was wondering when I saw that category (was shopping for something else there)
40:58 <rust_collector> most on that page, looks like normal silicone sealant, and latex caulking, like you get at the builders supply place
52:16 <canadaguest> anyhow I better go figure out other things for today, have fun car-ing rust_collector ;)
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01:35 <rust_collector> uh huh. fun stuff
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02:54 <rust_collector> it will do for today. time to put it on its wheels, and go buy dinner
03:31 <rust_collector> I think today is chinken day
03:49 <rust_collector> chinese chicken dish of some kind
14:35 <steve30> i might have fish for tea
38:47 <rust_collector> mmmmm fish tea
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29:07 <rust_collector> ok, this turned into chinken ins'h allah curry-ish something
38:40 <rust_collector> or soup
39:02 <rust_collector> "let sit for 2 to 3 days n medium heat to reduce"
57:54 <MrMobodies> Hello
57:54 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
58:07 <rust_collector> ollaaaa
58:37 <MrMobodies> Seller and courier... unhelpful. Police told me to open a case on Payal
58:47 <MrMobodies> and as soon as I brought a brilliant idea
59:04 <MrMobodies> to send the same people who delivered it back there to collect it
59:18 <MrMobodies> 12 minutes later I got a response that that is exactly what they're going to do
59:43 <MrMobodies> Fedex said that they are having problems with the moment with stolen items
00:00 <MrMobodies> something to do with Covid 19 and requiring them to sign
00:18 <MrMobodies> but there IS s a signature and name on there
00:23 <rust_collector> yeah. we just quit the signing thing up here
00:38 <MrMobodies> the guidance I read is taking pictures
01:30 <MrMobodies> If I find that the previous occupants stoke it I will not be very happy
01:41 <MrMobodies> the delivery drivers there have a tough job
02:16 <rust_collector> well, you know, at least they are underpaid... it will be ok
02:17 <MrMobodies> I heard they employ on the cheap and expect them to deliver hundreds of parcels
02:31 <rust_collector> well, yeah, that is their job...
03:16 <MrMobodies> and being acccused of fraud, I hope the seller puts the police onto the occupants if they have lied and have been found with it.
03:39 <MrMobodies> I just had a Chinese
04:10 <MrMobodies> fried rice which I won't get again, the appearance put me off, it looked like maggots with the soya sauce over it
04:48 <MrMobodies> but I had the fried chicken, in sweet and sour sauce, which I won't get again, I was told it was full of sugar
04:54 <MrMobodies> very nice though
05:05 <MrMobodies> chicken nuggets and the white crispy things
05:35 <MrMobodies> I threw the maggot rice stuff and the chips out and the birds are going mad over it
05:58 <MrMobodies> very fast eaters when it comes to that stuff, the small ones are picking up the large chips
06:08 <MrMobodies> and flying away
09:04 <rust_collector> i made chicken curry and rice. looks quit similar to chicken kebab vomit on rice. but it was pretty tasty
12:59 <rust_collector> I do wonder what the white crispy things are...
14:35 <MrMobodies> popadoms
14:44 <rust_collector> oh, right
15:15 <MrMobodies> https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0e/a8/92/ef/popadoms.jpg
15:35 <MrMobodies> with some sweet and sour sauce
47:22 <rust_collector> i have had the door on each side of the house open all day. I should close one of them now but it is still not really cold. I bet next we will have snow and -30, just because
53:40 <MrMobodies> It is extremely hot in England
54:02 <MrMobodies> good thing is I cool down under the air conditioner
54:09 <MrMobodies> it seems to turn on very quickly
54:42 <MrMobodies> it is a split unit where the blower is put in the convservatory
54:52 <rust_collector> extremely hot?
55:25 <MrMobodies> yes
56:11 <MrMobodies> well actually it has cooled down now
56:13 <MrMobodies> https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/u1214b469#?date=2020-05-21
56:21 <Lemon> damn im getting bad at doom
56:23 <MrMobodies> it's 25c
56:28 <Lemon> or that brutality mod really is idk
56:39 <MrMobodies> lovelly thing is there is a bit of breeze
56:43 <MrMobodies> from the trees
57:02 <MrMobodies> in ugly Upminster/Hornchurch in Essex no breeze, just heat and high humidity
57:17 <MrMobodies> and very bright
57:33 <MrMobodies> very few trees there except the parks
57:41 <rust_collector> uuh, come on. 25c is not extremely hot. sure it is early in the year, but
58:00 <MrMobodies> well it'll get past 30 soon at some point
58:09 <rust_collector> ok, it is more than I like, but...
58:12 <MrMobodies> that's calls for lots of water and ice
58:44 <rust_collector> meh, I think you are thinking too much
58:47 <MrMobodies> the humidty was horrible in the evenings in Essex
58:51 <rust_collector> don't worry about it
59:03 <MrMobodies> I always think too much without realizing
59:19 <rust_collector> I get that feeling....
59:32 <MrMobodies> but not you said I think I'll, rest and go for some cold water
59:54 <MrMobodies> with a cup full of ice
00:09 <rust_collector> people have survived in 25c before.
00:37 <rust_collector> it is down to 12c here now. Lemon what is your temp?
00:49 <rust_collector> noNO! the outside temp where you are
00:57 <Lemon> haha yes
01:00 <Lemon> I was tempted
01:05 <Lemon> 24.51 right now
01:09 <Lemon> outside idk but should be close
01:13 <Lemon> as doors are open
01:37 <rust_collector> well, they are here as well, but outside is 12, and inside is 19
02:37 <rust_collector> I think the point where I change from cold to hot is around 17...
05:59 <rust_collector> https://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Vestfold_og_Telemark/Horten/Skoppum/?spr=eng
06:11 <rust_collector> not much weather to speak of here for some time
08:07 <Lemon> so rusty
08:21 <Lemon> what should I build after the voltmeter that requires me to order parts and wait for them several wweeks ?
08:30 <Lemon> you always have good idea
11:25 <rust_collector> an stm32 controlled robot shelf unit. so you type in resistor 4.7k, and it gives you options for 1w, 5w, and 50w, you select, and it will get the drawer of 150w resistors for you
11:50 <Lemon> that surely would be nice but I'd prefer a regular bench tool you know :>
11:52 <Lemon> one that is doable
11:59 <rust_collector> it is doable
12:39 <rust_collector> a hydraulic bench cleaner? just flips the bench on its end, and "cleans" it
12:50 <rust_collector> like a bench reset button
13:25 <Lemon> please rusty
13:31 <Lemon> ho about a bench button
13:38 <Lemon> I kinda wanted to make an emergency button box
13:47 <Lemon> to shut everything, in case of a thefuckisgoingon
14:14 <rust_collector> well, you can measure voltages in all directions, temperature, you can supply sane voltages, you can measure currents, you have scopes... you can supply signals...
14:48 <Lemon> yeah but theres always cool things to build
14:58 <Lemon> like the thermometer was, the future multi-channels voltmeter
15:01 <rust_collector> make a fucking tray, with 3 rooms, and a dowel sticking up on one side
15:31 <Lemon> rusty please :(
16:47 <rust_collector> the divider between the rooms must be movable, so you put a reel of wire on the dowel, pull the wire under a spring loaded clamp, on the divider, over to the "wall". snip it off, and put it in compartment #2, next wire... pull, snip, place...
17:14 <rust_collector> yeah, be angry you..... you
17:34 <Lemon> remember rusty, a doable thingie
17:39 <Lemon> that fits in a box :>
17:41 <Lemon> a little box
17:52 <Lemon> a decade box
17:57 <Lemon> if I can find some nice resistors
18:07 <Lemon> well in fact I thought about doing it with regular 1%
18:13 <rust_collector> a tray with a fucking dowel is one of the most doable things I have thought about in... an hour or so
18:14 <Lemon> because its not realistic, if I use better ones
18:59 <rust_collector> why is better than 1% not realistic?
19:21 <Lemon> well most of the time I'll use it to build something using 1% resistors
19:27 <Lemon> you know what I mean ?
19:30 <rust_collector> sure
19:46 <Lemon> and also, its almost impossible to make a decade box up to the million with 1 ohm steps
19:58 <Lemon> I'd need 1Mohm 0.0001% resistors
20:05 <Lemon> which wont happen
20:13 <rust_collector> ohmygawd, you are getting sane thoughts... go take a nap
20:39 <Lemon> heh well I had this one a few months ago
20:53 <Lemon> so I think getting good 1% with decent tempco is better, easier and more realistic
20:58 <Lemon> watcha think ?
21:05 <rust_collector> go for it
21:22 <Lemon> a capacitor box would be neat too
21:32 <Lemon> or maybe two, for lytics and ceramic
23:43 <rust_collector> I vote for using one of those switches, that look like an old car odometer, so dial in the value you want, and it will switch to the needed resistors
24:11 <Lemon> a multiposition rotary one ?
24:22 <Lemon> ha odometer
24:27 <Lemon> I think I visualize it
24:32 <Lemon> well it will be hard to find
24:39 <Lemon> but I do want nice switches
26:19 <Lemon> but again, its aboutt whats easy to find on ebay, for a decent price, working well
28:12 <rust_collector> yeah, that would be something, right?
28:26 <Lemon> right right
29:05 <rust_collector> I think you need an airflow meter
29:37 <Lemon> dont tempt me
29:48 <Lemon> no but I wanted a decent luxmeter
29:55 <rust_collector> well
30:16 <Lemon> I foudn one use for it, see if my mothers' car lights are still good
30:20 <Lemon> the optic I mean
30:23 <rust_collector> hmm, can you measure light "colour"?
30:25 <Lemon> we polished it some days ago
30:28 <Lemon> yes
30:32 <Lemon> well not me but its possible
30:50 <rust_collector> sure it is possible, but... is that a thing?
31:12 <rust_collector> well, you will see it, when they turn grey again.
31:50 <Lemon> theres sensor to detect colours yeah
31:57 <Lemon> I gues it works roughly but works
32:09 <rust_collector> I hate the modern headlights, with 12.000.million colour thingiemeasurement
32:14 <Lemon> but lets do those decade boxes first
32:22 <Lemon> yeah it sucks
32:24 <rust_collector> nah, you do it
32:27 <Lemon> we have a 2006 megane
32:33 <rust_collector> oh crap
32:34 <Lemon> we have to remove the front bumper to access lights
32:37 <Lemon> yes crap
32:45 <rust_collector> I know
33:07 <rust_collector> well, fuck that, put tape on the bumper, and polish away
33:30 <rust_collector> it is not like a 2006 renault will drop more in value anyway
33:56 <rust_collector> it is otoh, pretty amazing that it still works, lol
35:31 <Lemon> yes really amazing, its working decently on the motor part
35:36 <Lemon> but on the electric part
35:42 <Lemon> lets not talk about it
36:26 <rust_collector> other than the crank pulley loosening up, the engines tend to work well enough
37:14 <Lemon> yeah but damn, windows that wont go up, trunk openning itself randomly, random shit like this all the time
37:20 <Lemon> lights dying for no reasons
37:47 <rust_collector> they make you buy a new pulley, bolt, and the seal, and the indexing thing. it is bullshit, just crank it down with a million monkeys on a long bar, and it will no longer be an issue
37:59 <rust_collector> yeah, they can be interesting
38:54 <rust_collector> very random too. some are close to perfect for a long time, until they just implode
39:50 <Lemon> exactly
39:55 <Lemon> no problems for 6 years now bam
40:39 <rust_collector> well, they are only designed to last for 7, so... not bad
41:34 <Lemon> heh
41:41 <Lemon> ok lets find rotary switches
42:35 <rust_collector> again?!!?
43:08 <Lemon> well you know, for those decade boxes
43:12 <Lemon> I need some nice ones
43:18 <rust_collector> yes
43:39 <rust_collector> get the ones you decided on the last time?
44:50 <rust_collector> how many positions on each?
45:05 <rust_collector> ok, 11, and you want 3 of those?
45:30 <Lemon> 10 positions
45:35 <Lemon> from 0 to 9 ?
45:38 <Lemon> I think
45:56 <rust_collector> be weird, and use red and white square pushbuttons, so they look like an old dance floor...
45:57 <Lemon> and hmmm
46:09 <Lemon> heh well I'll pass
46:25 <Lemon> how many of them, lets say 7 for the resistor decade box
46:30 <Lemon> we'll see how mcuh they cost
46:31 <Lemon> much
46:36 <rust_collector> i still wonder why you keep saying I... brrr
47:03 <rust_collector> hmm, what size will this box be?
47:24 <rust_collector> 3x1.5x8.5?
47:29 <rust_collector> yes, in inches
47:30 <Lemon> that will depend on the switches I guess
47:35 <Lemon> usually I look at that after
47:46 <rust_collector> well, you have to have some idea?
48:20 <Lemon> maybe 20x15x10cm
48:24 <rust_collector> I am not going to look for powerplant spec switches, if you want them in a small box
52:47 <rust_collector> https://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-Rotary-Switch-Potentiometer-1-Pole-11-Position-for-Guitar-effect-Audio-1P11T/292070506574?_trkparms=aid%3D1110012%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOIPOST%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200420083544%26meid%3D43d417e03410459e9e3e612acd2ad34f%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D292074424156%26itm%3D292070506574%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
52:55 <Lemon> yeah I saw them
53:00 <Lemon> but they are 11 positions
53:09 <rust_collector> just block one?
53:15 <Lemon> how so ?
53:40 <rust_collector> put a stopper on the button, or whatever
53:48 <rust_collector> use that one as 0?
53:52 <Lemon> that wont be pretty
53:55 <rust_collector> I dunno?
53:57 <Lemon> well 10 positions is 0 to 9
54:04 <rust_collector> depends on the buttons you get
54:42 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Band-Switch-Rotary-Channel-Selector-1-Deck-1-Pole-10-Position-Throw-1P10T-Knob/382836069601?hash=item5922ced4e1:g:QxcAAOSw5Jhch8Ab
54:46 <Lemon> those are ok but expensive
57:27 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1set-Thumbwheel-BCD-Switch-5-Digit-Cap-TF41-GTF411221-0-9-Scale-H-24mm-Hampolt/132065622728?hash=item1ebfb97ac8:g:mrgAAOSw241Ye3KL
57:30 <Lemon> I could use those
57:39 <Lemon> easy to read, smaller
57:54 <rust_collector> yep
58:24 <rust_collector> what is a hampolt?
59:01 <Lemon> no idea
59:18 <rust_collector> well, you can stack those, to...many of them...
59:36 <Lemon> yeah I just have to use my brain to know how to wire resistors
59:36 <rust_collector> that is the kind I meant with the odometer like one
59:52 <rust_collector> well, HA HA!!!
59:52 <Lemon> ha ok I thoguht about something else
00:22 <rust_collector> well, with an up and down button on each digit, but close enough
01:10 <Lemon> theres that t ype too yeah
01:27 <rust_collector> meh, thumbwheel will be faster
01:34 <Lemon> yeah
01:44 <rust_collector> and they are schmall enough
02:04 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1set-Thumbwheel-BCD-Switch-4-Digit-Cap-TF51-GTF511221-0-9-Scale-H-18mm-Hampolt/142248466470?hash=item211eab5826:g:5NoAAOSwopRYfZ-y
02:15 <Lemon> those should be better, I can do a 1/2/2/2/2 setup
03:13 <rust_collector> they look the same to me
03:49 <Lemon> look at the connections
03:54 <Lemon> theres binary/hex types
04:26 <rust_collector> blah blah blah blah
05:20 <rust_collector> well, ok, that is done then, get some resistors, a bunch of opamps, and a pic microcontroller, and you can start to make the guy cut the pieces for your variac box
05:41 <rust_collector> oh no. I see now...
05:47 <rust_collector> those are also
05:51 <Lemon> why opamps ? :o
05:52 <rust_collector> hampolt
06:00 <rust_collector> you always need opamps
09:25 <Lemon> thats true
11:29 <rust_collector> there you go
12:33 <rust_collector> hmm, I was outside, just looking... so my car is almost flipped on its side, the bench is standing on its end, the table is on its side... I shoud go flip the trailer sideways too
13:45 <Lemon> perfect sight
13:55 <Lemon> or those thumbwheels looks fine
14:05 <Lemon> I'll take 4 of them, 7 for the resistor box
14:10 <Lemon> 9 for the cap
14:17 <rust_collector> didn't you order a bunch of pots for this thing?
14:22 <Lemon> for 1pf to 100uf
14:28 <Lemon> no ?
15:13 <rust_collector> ok then
25:43 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1pf-100nf-1000pcs-50value-50V-Ceramic-Capacitor-Assorted-Kit-Assortment-Set/110930170817?hash=item19d3f413c1:g:WQ8AAOSwa39UrOdn
25:48 <Lemon> those look fine
26:32 <rust_collector> they all look fine. you would have to measure them, I guess
26:52 <Lemon> 20% tolerance I think
26:58 <Lemon> thats high
27:00 <Lemon> but common
28:19 <rust_collector> i do not think there are too many high precision caps. maybe in some timing stuff?
28:27 <Lemon> yeah its rare
28:52 <Lemon> but 20% is really high
35:02 <Lemon> idk if making a decade box with such high value variance isworth it
38:23 <rust_collector> you do not know what value they are, until you measure them... 20% does not mean they have to be out by 20%
38:33 <Lemon> yeah sure
44:13 <Lemon> 16 euros for 2600 resistors, 130 different values
44:15 <Lemon> 1% ones
44:49 <Lemon> you'd be surprised but most of the kits dont have the values I need, I need 1/2R, 10/20R, etc
44:52 <Lemon> 100k 200k
45:02 <Lemon> theres always 2.2k, 22k, 220k etc
45:07 <Lemon> but no 2/20/200k
45:09 <rust_collector> uuuh, no, I would not
45:12 <Lemon> only on that big kit
45:16 <Lemon> so well im going for it
46:03 <Lemon> now a box
48:27 <Lemon> hampolt is the brand btw
49:19 <rust_collector> oh
50:27 <rust_collector> brrrrffff grrrmbblll ok, that was the wrong bottle
50:43 <Lemon> jeez
50:50 <rust_collector> this will be interesting
51:36 <rust_collector> I did not plan on having a drink today. oh well
52:00 <rust_collector> that is what I get for watching videos, while trying to do something, I guess
54:11 <Lemon> im watching some doom brutality playthrough
54:13 <Lemon> its really dope
54:19 <Lemon> I played a bit but damn thats hard
54:24 <Lemon> im quicksaving every minute
54:50 <rust_collector> bah, super mario
55:53 <Lemon> theres so many weapons/monsters now
56:06 <Lemon> kicking, combat knife etc
56:13 <Lemon> you can even throw grenades
56:45 <rust_collector> why would you throw away a perfectly good grenade?
57:12 <Lemon> true, true
57:48 <Lemon> but those kind of imps that walk on the roofs
57:50 <rust_collector> I mean, if you find a big bolt, you put those in your backpack, right? you never know when you need a big bolt
57:51 <Lemon> godamn
58:50 <Lemon> I really like how doom never gets old
58:58 <rust_collector> eeh
59:08 <Lemon> theres always new dope mods, maps etc
59:48 <rust_collector> dope mods... so you get blurry vision, and bad baalance?
00:18 <Lemon> it can be yeah
00:46 <rust_collector> I am 98% happy I do not play games
00:58 <Lemon> then you need to play games
01:04 <Lemon> maybe thats those last 2%
01:09 <rust_collector> mmm, no
01:37 <rust_collector> I think they are boring.
01:49 <Lemon> maybe you didnt play the good ones ?
02:02 <Lemon> but yeah I dont have the same passion I had for them
02:07 <rust_collector> well, not the good games, like solitaire, and tetris, those are great
03:22 <Lemon> but doom dude
03:28 <Lemon> theres a 4 barrel shotgun
03:46 <rust_collector> eeeh, not interested
04:09 <Lemon> dual wielded 500 magnums ?
04:16 <rust_collector> blah blah
05:14 <Lemon> I realise I bought 10 of those dual banana posts
05:21 <Lemon> when I need only four
05:28 <Lemon> thats great I'll have some leftovers
05:37 <Lemon> for the decade box for example
05:47 <MrMobodies> Anyone with any medical knowledge on drips and tubes?
05:55 <rust_collector> yeah, you will need them soon enough
06:10 <rust_collector> heh that sort of fit
06:50 <rust_collector> what did you get yourself into this time, MrMobodies? did you disconnect someones drip by accident?
07:28 <MrMobodies> no, it's for a clogged printer head
07:35 <MrMobodies> I see that is a joke
07:44 <MrMobodies> I am up to all sorts of things
07:58 <MrMobodies> I have some cleaning stuff and solution
08:01 <MrMobodies> 4 heads
08:08 <MrMobodies> 3 of them flush through okay
08:13 <MrMobodies> the black one is clogged
08:32 <MrMobodies> If I put in a tube and syringe, pressure builds up
08:51 <MrMobodies> if I push it in and out the black ink comes out but goes back when letting go the syringe
08:58 <MrMobodies> now if I can find a valve
09:18 <MrMobodies> so I can hold the syring up, and put hot water with peroxide (I read you can do that)
09:20 <rust_collector> hmm. how big is the tube?
09:24 <MrMobodies> that should gon in there
09:58 <rust_collector> so, it is like an ink sausage
10:41 <MrMobodies> 1mm diameter, I;ll just check the order
10:51 <rust_collector> hmm, that is not much
10:53 <Halcyon> Great we, have no power. Can't have a shower :(
10:53 <MrMobodies> it does fit on the print head inpit
12:35 <MrMobodies> it's this one, now I got it and I measure it
12:36 <MrMobodies> https://bchtechnologies.com/size-s-unclogging-syringe-tool-for-epson-tight-fit-guranteed/
12:40 <MrMobodies> no power?
12:51 <rust_collector> I was just wondering if it would fit... say a ketchup bottle or something,
13:08 <MrMobodies> this is tiny, small than the 1mm tube
13:30 <MrMobodies> but if I can fine some valve, so when I suck the ink in there out, turn the valve to the hot water
13:44 <MrMobodies> I believe it would go in it's place
13:52 <MrMobodies> and melt the dry ink
14:17 <MrMobodies> a bit like this
14:18 <MrMobodies> https://www.dreamstime.com/saline-solution-tube-valve-joint-connection-medicat-saline-solution-tube-valve-joint-connection-image111494331
15:18 <rust_collector> so, the syringe sucks on the outlet? or pushes into the inlet?
15:41 <MrMobodies> it sucks
15:50 <MrMobodies> pushing it and it bursts open the tube
15:58 <MrMobodies> so if I let go when it sucks
16:06 <MrMobodies> the ink in the head goes back in
16:23 <MrMobodies> so if I had a two way valve
16:41 <MrMobodies> I could suck the ink out on one end with the syrine, whilst holding it up
16:54 <MrMobodies> turn the valve, and it takes in hot water
17:00 <rust_collector> hmm, maybe try to put a bit of hot water in the syringe, suck, turn everything upside down, so the water drops down to the ink sausage, maybe?
17:07 <MrMobodies> I did
17:18 <MrMobodies> I think it is time to take out the print head
17:39 <MrMobodies> BCHtechnologies has a video on removing the head
17:42 <MrMobodies> on that type of printer
17:48 <rust_collector> ok
18:01 <MrMobodies> then I can try all sorts of things, like steaming it with a steamer
18:30 <MrMobodies> but the medical tube Idea I think would work but I can't find any selling apart from pictures
18:36 <rust_collector> yeah, if it does not have any sensitive parts, you could probably just boil it, lol
20:06 <MrMobodies> also I found something interest earler
20:09 <MrMobodies> on ebay
20:10 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGI-70000654-AccelePort-ISA16-Port-RJ-45-NEW/231986559122?
20:31 <MrMobodies> 80186 processor on board in each concentrator
21:08 <MrMobodies> 8x 186 cpus on that board
22:36 <MrMobodies> ftp://ftp1.digi.com/support/documentation/cx-xxxx-inst-91000746.pdf
23:04 <MrMobodies> Interesting, I never heard of that one before, is that some version of Token Ring.
26:03 <MrMobodies> http://ftp1.digi.com/pub/digi/pdf/product/adapter/cx.pdf
27:49 <MrMobodies> I see it is another serial based network controller
28:37 <MrMobodies> and it can go 5 miles
29:32 <MrMobodies> oh 3.7mbps nothing special the CPU is just for offloading.
32:14 <MrMobodies> I think I will order some Peroxide and then give it a go with the printhead in hot water
37:12 <rust_collector> hmm, peroxide. I should get some of that too
38:04 <rust_collector> I was looking for it a while ago, started to look at all the hair thingie bottles the wife has, but no. then i forgot about it
40:25 <MrMobodies> I got this video which is VERY HELPFUL
40:45 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXArnIGrAA
41:21 <MrMobodies> the one I got is a WF7200
41:36 <MrMobodies> but the print looks identical and they show you how to take it apart
41:49 <MrMobodies> that's why I got the cleaning stuff from
46:43 <rust_collector> where is that guy from?
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55:15 <MrMobodies> BCHtechnologies I think
55:29 <MrMobodies> or it could be one of their customers
55:35 <rust_collector> well, yes, but where is that accent from
56:11 <MrMobodies> America-Indian?
56:40 <rust_collector> I do get a sort of asian feeling.
56:43 <rust_collector> oh well
57:00 <MrMobodies> Yes I hear a bit of Chinglish
57:21 <MrMobodies> I don't mind a bit of chinglish when it is too my advantage
58:20 <rust_collector> nah, it is fine, I was just curious
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01:25 <MrMobodies> I have got some bits off already
01:46 <MrMobodies> he makes it so easy
02:16 <MrMobodies> and the printhead is identical so far
05:45 <rust_collector> yeah, they probably used it in half of their models
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43:03 <canadaguest> hi after a busy big supper today :->
45:00 <canadaguest> not sure if its possible to answer this wire related thing but I was wondering if theres any particular fields where a double-crimp is much more common and vice versa for oval-crimp?
47:16 <canadaguest> and has anyone heard any new progress from lemon's own project? :)
47:36 <rust_collector> hey
48:07 <rust_collector> hmm, well he did order some more crap
48:15 <rust_collector> I mean components
49:42 <rust_collector> he is making a resistor substitution box thing, and one for capacitors. He has been talking about those for a while now
50:09 <canadaguest> heh ok and hows our norway rust doing? :)
50:31 <rust_collector> well, I did go outside, and found some good japanese rust
51:40 <rust_collector> I did also dig a nice stainless cable out of the garage, it was supposed to be supporting the mast of a sailboat... I do not know what happened there, but it did end up on my garage
51:51 <canadaguest> mind a little train chat again or not for tonight? :)
52:27 <rust_collector> well, I am not going to say very much today. I am getting very close to bed. but go on, if you are bored
52:59 <rust_collector> what kind of food is YOUR kind of food?
53:44 <rust_collector> and no, you can not say pizza. the next best thing
54:18 <rust_collector> and no, ice cream is not food
54:34 <canadaguest> most vegan, some fish, a bit of good local meat, varying bread/scone .. and thats not counting breakfasts in the morning which has its own variety :)
55:03 <rust_collector> hmmm.
55:37 <rust_collector> cheese sort of messes up any veganism... oh well
56:06 <canadaguest> but anyhow you mentioned about liking the emd sw's .. well its technically 'tr' not 'sw' but heres something interesting tho https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/IC_TR1_9251.jpg/737px-IC_TR1_9251.jpg running two cabs had a slight problem with limited backward visibility when shunting a lot so the easy answer was to just not add
56:06 <canadaguest> the cab .. still had its own engine .. some people nicknamed them "cow and calf" because the calf always wanted to be with a mother (no/limited controls themselves)
56:48 <canadaguest> although strangely enough at least two railroads decided to order two calves for each cow units they bought like this factory-delivery photo shows http://www.kingstonemodelworks.com/TR3/TR3-1.PNG
57:43 <canadaguest> some small secondary railroads used to buy unwanted/downgraded sw units and torch the cab off to make their own version .. but still, end up in the same idea
58:29 <rust_collector> the thing about high hoods, and some lines running them "backwards" was always something I thought was weird. I mean the gp/sd sort of units
58:59 <canadaguest> strangely it was just mainly an emd thing .. I have never seen a photo of any alco/baldwin switchers with this kind of option
00:00 <canadaguest> rust_collector ah well Norfolk ordered quite a lot of their *7 and *9 emd units long-hood for some time because of still having bunch of older engineers around so they wanted to preserve the boiler-like experience
00:40 <canadaguest> and some railfans funny enough nicknamed early longhood ones refitted with dynamic brakes "hammerhead" because from the front-on they made a big 'T' shape .. just like an actual hammerhead shark
01:17 <canadaguest> some but not all longhood's had dual-controls on a side note
03:12 <rust_collector> I still think it is a bit weird. it is not like they would not notice it was not a steam engine. "No, I just like not seeing anything"
04:32 <canadaguest> rust_collector btw about hoods .. there were not many of them but they still did look weird tho .. do you want to know what happens when you want to order something like an alco rs unit .. but you also wanted steam heating AND dynamic brakes fitted in one? you end up with something thats often set up to run long-hood forward as it has a big humping
04:33 <canadaguest> hump right up to the roofline on the short hood end as to house the boiler in lower section and dynamic brake panels in the upper section
06:55 <canadaguest> heres one of these odd short-hump unit although it seem it has weak or no dynamic brakings (as theres not much vent around the roof) https://akronrrclub.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/lv-to-cr.jpg
07:37 <canadaguest> rust_collector I can see what you mean .. still labours on some railways wanted the long boiler-like setup so what is one to say
10:01 <canadaguest> rust_collector anyhow if you're not all tired yet alco did get just a bit odd with the rsd-15 units .. for some reason they set the cab back a bit and let it have a long nose https://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/6/5/7/1657.1295961967.jpg they almost always were nicknamed 'alligator' and that is a bit too obvious :)
11:10 <rust_collector> yeah, those look like they just added a bit to fit 2 more axles
12:44 <canadaguest> btw rust_collector I forgot the entire history or what number it was given but there was one very specific SD40 (I think) that was the very original prototype as such that it actually was mounted onto a SD35 chassis giving to a slightly squashed walkways at both ends .. it surprisingly lasted a long time that it evevtually was still owned by either
12:44 <canadaguest> CP or CN into the 90's
13:30 <canadaguest> place the 'prototype' SD40 next to an actual SD40 and the body looks same but the chassis length doesn't match up :)
15:37 <canadaguest> about 'add a bit' thats what I found a bit odd about certain early electric locos from the prr railroad . hm wait I think I know the name so let me find it...
17:20 <rust_collector> Trains Magazine Newswire is reporting that Canadian National Railway has just retired Illinois Central SD40 No. 6071, Electro-Motive Division's prototype SD40, built in January 1966.
17:28 <rust_collector> that was posted in 2004
17:58 <canadaguest> oh new haven not prr sorry but anyway heres one http://riverpointstation.com/images/ep3_1933.jpg they were purely-passenger units (as far as I have seen photos) so the extra-big walkway was quite useless except for holding the extra axles underneath
18:16 <canadaguest> thats just one of them (re ep3) there was another one too but I think one's enough for now :)
18:49 <canadaguest> I suspect there was some reason NH wanted two guide axles at both ends .. otherwise without the fat walkway just one would had do
19:12 <canadaguest> 2004? I'm not surprised at that
21:20 <canadaguest> rust_collector oh about electrics .. it was used on and off for lighter freights (so you probably won't have mind it) but here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/PRR_R1.jpg/1200px-PRR_R1.jpg its not a gg1 but umm yeah they did share a lot of the parts bin still :)
21:54 <canadaguest> basically two less drive axles
22:02 <rust_collector> I think the same guy was involved in that
22:35 <rust_collector> but 1966, it is not that old...
23:57 <canadaguest> rust_collector and also I forgot exact source now but one gg1 was involved in an odd accident that owned many thanks to that a gg1 was there
25:30 <canadaguest> short version: metroliner-branded emu was out of service so the schedule was turned over to a gg1-hauled metroliner coaches trainset instead .. and the gg1 ended up wrecked with a track maintenance machinery .. left its forward hood nearly all crushed up and a bit of cabin damaged .. but thats that, just lot of minor human injuries and no more .. i
25:30 <canadaguest> f it had been the emu there would had been a lot of crushed seats aka human tolls
25:54 <canadaguest> talk about a strange 'happy' fate
26:56 <canadaguest> other than for the one gg1 with nonworking brakes that ran into a station concourse these two were the only major accidents they were ever involved in (abit the latter one was surprisingly repaired back to normal service)
27:54 <rust_collector> i remember one train crash up here, where one of the newer diesels ran thru 1.5 waggons of a local passenger train. it was not pretty, but the diesel was fine, it needed new lights, and the handrails straightened
31:16 <canadaguest> well yeah sometimes when you match plastic to metal .. the metal often wins figuratively speaking .. I actually do recall one story where an old dmu met a quite-new dmu .. and umm I'll rather not talk about the human sides of that but lets say the old one just had a bit of bucked body but still could limp out while the new one was a huge heap of sp
31:16 <canadaguest> linters everywhere and not much of a chassis to find
33:15 <rust_collector> yeah, that is because they do not have much of a chassis to start with. I hate the new trains up here, they are like big trams. Now, they are quick and fast, but bounce around and are... not very quiet
33:58 <rust_collector> well, we used to have state owned railways here, but that ended last year, I think it was
34:28 <rust_collector> so now the swedes run one line, the british one line, not sure who does the rest
35:33 <canadaguest> btw its a classical railroad (rather than eg new haven which was a passenger-busy corridor railroad) but heres something with a lot of overhang https://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0802/it1590.jpg .. I think (I won't be surprised if I was right) its because it used to be a 4-axle unit and they wanted some 6-axle one for heavier trains cheaply so th
35:33 <canadaguest> ey just took the same locomotive and float it on these 'new' walkways
36:04 <canadaguest> you still can see the wastline of the original chassis the body is sitting on
36:58 <rust_collector> well... those look kind of nice
36:59 <canadaguest> and that wasn't all they apparently managed to order this from somewhere too .. 8 axles again but with curved-end hoods instead http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0702/it72.jpg
37:44 <rust_collector> but, it is nap time. have a good...whatever time
38:35 <canadaguest> bye rust_collector thanks for the little fun we had :)
38:49 * canadaguest goes back to electronics as I was in a hour ago
39:09 <rust_collector> keep having some fun, even if it is electronic things
39:17 <rust_collector> good night
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09:11 <canadaguest> hmm
09:31 * canadaguest stares at shoplist
25:17 <canadaguest> np capacitors and that I don't know if I want to order two crimps .. hopefully I can start on the circuits by next month
25:24 <canadaguest> np=no* me and my fingers
25:32 <canadaguest> :-s
32:05 * canadaguest bonks in a silly way at how theres confusingly so many different capacitors everywhere :P
32:12 <canadaguest> heheh
40:18 <MrMobodies> I managed to unclogged it
40:20 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/RFpDExA
41:04 <MrMobodies> The solution now goes throw them and it also the blue that was blocked too
41:23 <MrMobodies> I used the kettle as the spout is 90 degrees angle
41:59 <MrMobodies> and slowly I press the syringe and it took over an hour to get not only all the black but the pressure to be the same as the other inlets
42:29 <MrMobodies> Horrible work this is, very messy and I am hoping not to do it again.
42:32 <MrMobodies> I am putting it back but I don't expect it to work.
53:54 * canadaguest goes to bed soon
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15:55 <MrMobodies> Wwell that is great
16:23 <MrMobodies> it turns on and works but as soon as it prints, error code 031008
17:34 <MrMobodies> accoeding to the service manual: ADF Encoder failure (contaminated/detached scale, Encoder Board failure)
17:45 <MrMobodies> the ink must of gotten in there too
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32:16 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/Awwducational/comments/gnz0ge/the_hooded_pitohui_is_the_first_scientifically/
40:58 <steve30> hi
41:55 <T3sl4> morning steve30
44:49 <Halcyon> Hey all
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57:28 <steve30> hi Halcyon
58:01 <Halcyon> OMG look at all the ducks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ehoxu9QY8
58:05 <Halcyon> So cute
59:26 <steve30> Halcyon, AC is finished :)
59:33 <T3sl4> Halcyon: duck you
00:52 <Halcyon> Did you have it on last night Steve?
01:03 <Halcyon> Ducks are cuuuute, except they make a mess
01:07 <steve30> i put it on before i went to bed. Didn't leave it on all night.
01:31 <steve30> hehe, he put it on his instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdp2ANBkiP/
01:54 <T3sl4> can be quite mean, too
02:00 <T3sl4> tho idunno what breeds those are
02:35 <T3sl4> they seem well behaved in the video, and their fertilizer will help the vines :)
04:58 <Halcyon> I'm guessing you don't use your home alarm system?
05:40 <steve30> nope
05:52 <Halcyon> Good thing you didn't need that PIR sensor then :P
06:06 <steve30> i think that one is faulty anyway
09:55 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKR26EYYEU8
10:18 <Halcyon> Oh no
10:22 <Halcyon> That's evil
11:16 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ashens+will+it+sodastream
11:31 <Halcyon> I meant this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNFKr4fjorI
12:04 <steve30> The AC man has put 20% VAT on the invoice. I need to query that; It ought to only be 5%
12:30 <Halcyon> VAT is fixed yeh?
12:54 <steve30> It depends on the type of goods/service.
13:00 <Halcyon> Oh that's annoying
13:24 <steve30> AC for a house ought to be 5%. AC for a business should be 20%
13:27 <Halcyon> We have a flat 10%. Goods/services are either GST inclusive (which is far more common) or exclusive
13:47 <steve30> He did state 5% on the quotation
13:56 <Halcyon> He probably just made an error
14:22 <steve30> I hope so; otherwise it means an extra £600 to the tax man :S
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16:56 <Halcyon> I should start making dinner
17:00 <Halcyon> It's going to take a while
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44:33 <Stiff> what are we having tonight?
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14:47 <Halcyon> Stiff: Guinness stew with colcannon
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12:43 <Lemon> bonjour
13:18 <steve30> hi
14:24 <T3sl4> baguette hon hon hon
14:43 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
15:03 * T3sl4 swats at steve30 with some crusty bread
15:20 <steve30> yum
05:11 <Halcyon> I love fresh bread with butter
05:47 <T3sl4> fresh bread is a good thing
24:31 <Lemon> ok so im planning to build a resistor decade box with thumbwheel switches
24:37 <Lemon> but theres many different kinds
24:50 <Lemon> I need to find the kind where I can put resistors like this : 1/2/2/2/2
25:02 <Lemon> for 5, it short the first 3, etc
27:52 <Lemon> or I can just go for decimals
34:10 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/PP8-5-5A-Thumbwheel-Switch-5-Digits-Decimal-Code-0-9-Gold-Plated-USSR-88YEAR/223829839968?hash=item341d4c5060:g:2YEAAOSw8UdeDjLK
34:13 <Lemon> those are neat
35:13 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/PP7-4-4A-Thumbwheel-Switch-4-Digits-Decimal-Code-0-9-Silver-Plated-USSR-88YEAR/223741252194?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Dabf3cab015bd452fafc5f73d51f9ab68%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D223975416961%26itm%3D223741252194%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 or those, cheaper and maybe easier to read
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03:09 <Lemon> rust_collector you there boi ?
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27:03 <canadaguest> hi to anyone else who even cares if its friday today :P heh
27:18 <Lemon> hello !
27:48 <canadaguest> hi lemon hows your work been doing? zapped youtself yet? :p
28:18 <Lemon> ho well im not doing much, as im waiting for parts :> been playing some of that doom mod called brutality, and damn thats good !
29:16 <Lemon> im planning ahead and purchasing parts for another project
29:22 <Lemon> which will be a simple resistor decade box :>
29:33 <Lemon> with some nice urss silver plated thumbwheel switches !
29:48 <Lemon> from 0 to 99Mohms if I can find decent 10Mohms resistors
33:01 <canadaguest> mmm, ok :)
34:03 <canadaguest> just almos tfinished with my one shoplist here, still 2 things missing but I'm looking now
35:04 <Lemon> I love to purchase parts
35:12 <Lemon> also it will look like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvJqAh4nwa0
35:19 <Lemon> maybe a different arrangement
35:43 <Lemon> IET make ones with 0.1% resistors that cost like 600-700 euros...
35:48 <Lemon> utter ripoff
36:04 <Lemon> even if I use 0.1% it will cost what, 60 euros total ?
36:32 <canadaguest> well one of my problem is when I can't find a distributor for a specific part # I want and the other similar one are not the right function/cosmetic type for me to want to use these alternatives
36:38 * canadaguest stares at the c&k switch
44:21 <Lemon> hmmm I found some nice resistors
44:28 <Lemon> I wanted to use regular 1% ones
44:42 <Lemon> but I found some vishay 1% wiht a decent tempco
46:14 <Lemon> 50ppm/C, should be better than those random chinese one
47:29 <canadaguest> heh funny you mentioned vishay as I need a few resistors (for the homemade ac-dc circuits) and plan to order from them
48:12 <canadaguest> 480vf diodes as well
49:17 <canadaguest> on that note its interesting that sub-400 diodes seem to be often only in smt packages but I'm not sure if I want to try solder that to free-hanging wires so mm ehh
49:35 * canadaguest isn't too worried about the exact volt drop tho
50:32 <canadaguest> lemon btw if you wanted to know it goes to as low as like 220 or so as far as vishay makes them (not sure if theres any better from someone else)
51:56 <Lemon> yeah vishay makes nice things, just take care about specs, sometimes they tend to lie a bit on higher precision ones
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53:28 <canadaguest> not to be silly but I've sometimes noticed jokes about precisions .. some people can be silly but :)
54:00 <canadaguest> I mean "how precise did you want to measure it? is 2 feet versus 10 feet precise enough?" :)
54:27 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w <--- The Active Denial System (ADS)
55:04 <canadaguest> that or the more nitpicky ones that goes "and just how many demicial points is THAT?"
55:40 <canadaguest> hi hsn
55:56 <hsn> hi canadaguest
56:10 <Lemon> yeah theres two kind of peoples, those who wont accept anything under 3 decimal places, and those who use their bare eyes to measure something
56:29 <hsn> lemon there are 3 kind of people actually
56:49 <hsn> under 3 decimal , bare eyes, and lemons
56:51 <hsn> xD
57:41 <Lemon> lemons are the best kind :>
57:51 <hsn> canadaguest 480vf diodes?
57:58 <hsn> agreeed, lemon !
59:20 <canadaguest> hsn yeah a little less than 1v of loss in the rectifier so thats very little heat to deal with relatively constantly, not too bad for me I would think
59:54 <hsn> 480vf is series name or somthing ?
00:49 <canadaguest> lemon btw I don't know how true it is anymore but in the books I have about trucking from uk through the arabs during the late 70's boom .. the trucker mentioned that the arabs often seem to have very wobby built-in eye levels because a lot of the things the arab built were all slanted like mad and nothing joined perfectly
01:04 <canadaguest> hsn nope .. its the vf values :)
01:26 <hsn> vf < 0.7 u want ?
01:37 <Lemon> theres a french saying which is 'travail d'arabe'
01:41 <hsn> forward voltage right ?
01:42 <Lemon> means shitty work
01:52 <canadaguest> lemon mm did not know that but interesting :)
02:22 <Lemon> alright resistors + thumbwheel switches will cost me around 50 euros
02:26 <Lemon> now a nice box and bam
02:29 <hsn> lol
02:32 <hsn> im arab btw xD
02:40 <Lemon> I know ! :P
02:46 <Lemon> I just said, there is a saying x)
02:53 <hsn> np
03:09 <hsn> i dont mind xD
03:18 <canadaguest> hsn well obviously I don't want the diodes to have to dissipate 2w of heat as that would be a rather warm rectifier overall. so a low vf is nice but it doesn't have to be extremely low nevertheless. right? :)
03:32 <Lemon> but I must be honest, most arabs in france, who doesnt even speak arab anymore, are really acting bad.. and most of my arab friends know it and dislike them
03:44 <Lemon> I dont know what happenned but its a serious case
04:03 <hsn> yes Canadaguest, but i just dont understand what is (480 vf) ..
04:05 <Lemon> the new generation is really fucked up for some reasons
04:16 <canadaguest> lemon probably french-arab are a different world from pure arab? especially if the french-arab have been drinking french bottles .. aka too much wines? :)
04:21 <Lemon> im the kind of person to be really cool, and helpful
04:30 <Lemon> yet many time I got shit on for no reasons
04:34 <Lemon> just because im white
04:39 <Lemon> how crazy is that seriously
04:42 <canadaguest> I could be wrong
04:45 <hsn> i think these mostly from algeria ?
04:46 <canadaguest> just a theory tho mind you
05:13 <Lemon> well most of them are from france, as them + their parents been born there, but yeah algeria, maroc tunisia etc
05:26 <hsn> i think germany suffer from syrian arabs as well..
05:30 <Lemon> they all swear on god but most of them if not all never read the coran
06:01 * Ampera squeezes Lemon 
06:03 <Ampera> good morning
06:07 <Lemon> squich
06:07 <hsn> it doesnt matter, even if they read xD
06:10 <Lemon> hello boi waddup !
06:11 <hsn> gm Ampera
06:11 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Lemon!
06:14 <canadaguest> lemon btw I know its a bit different thing but when citroen was starting to sell their then-new 2cv cars. they also tried to export it to uk too and well not surprisingly it was not that popular over there EXCEPT that apparently a lot of ex-french english drivers did buy them in a sizeable number still (so that explains why there was quite a few hu
06:14 <canadaguest> ndreds of 2cv registered to around london/etc)
06:22 <Ampera> oh man why do I have to exist today
06:41 <Lemon> heh
06:48 <Lemon> canadaguest yeah I heard about that
07:00 <Lemon> I think im going for a nap
07:10 <canadaguest> have a good nap without souring yourself too much mr.lemon
07:11 <canadaguest> :)
07:23 <Ampera> lol
07:24 <hsn> Ampera, why do we exist everyday
07:34 * canadaguest looks at ampera and says hi to you too :)
07:43 <Ampera> hsn, some faggot made us for his own sick amusement
08:07 <hsn> who
08:16 <Ampera> cares
08:35 <hsn> :P
09:17 <canadaguest> mm not quite electronics but does get related tho .. what do you actually call these things that look like metal tubes with a male or female thread at one end and female thread at other end .. sorta like an extension/standoff
09:46 <hsn> standoffs ?
09:47 <Ampera> well if it's male on one end and female on the other end you call it a 21st century man
09:49 <Ampera> or a standoff
10:03 <hsn> board standoff , spacer
10:15 <canadaguest> oh so they're actually called standoff themselves? hm .. interesting, thanks
10:24 * canadaguest goes to see what digikey would have
10:26 <Ampera> if it's female on both ends then that's a bit stranger
10:45 <hsn> https://www.digikey.com/products/en/hardware-fasteners-accessories/board-spacers-standoffs/582?k=standoff
11:19 <hsn> its a lesbian ampera
11:41 <Ampera> hsn, I think you're lesbian annoying.
11:51 <hsn> :<
11:57 <Ampera> <3
12:07 <hsn> :P
12:15 <hsn> ok i'll go see u later enjoy
14:57 <Ampera> ciao
19:57 <canadaguest> ampera well female/female does exist in sizeable number as far as digikey says .. next to male/male and male/female
20:02 <canadaguest> just noting
20:13 <Ampera> There's probably some use somewhere
20:20 <canadaguest> yeah
20:26 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZkCfcimCUE
21:50 <canadaguest> hmm, oh boy...
22:07 <canadaguest> just found another german company name that sounds weird in english. why am I not surprised at that again
22:28 * canadaguest wonders about ordering from assmann .. ass my man .... :>
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49:47 <canadaguest> ampera not to be silly but why do some people actually use 0ohm resistors? like won't a dumb plain piece of wire just do
50:19 <Ampera> canadaguest, honestly I can't tell you the real reason, but presumably because 0ohm resistors are exactly that, just in an SMD form factor
50:41 <Ampera> It might be useful for applications where components, and thus supporting components might need to change, so a resistor is or is not needed in any given location
51:21 <canadaguest> oh hmm didn't think of it that way for smd
51:23 <canadaguest> thanks
51:34 <Ampera> if you're doing stuff like pick and place I imagine placing a tiny tiny piece of wire down on two pads and then gluing it would be a fair bit harder to orchestrate than just a normal form factor SMD part
52:15 <Ampera> you then have to deal with stuff like coating the wire with solder guard or something so that wave soldering doesn't go nuts on it
52:29 <canadaguest> I see
53:15 <Ampera> again, I have zero clue what I'm talking about, this is just my opinion based on deductive reasoning
55:06 <canadaguest> heh, re reasoning .. as someone famous more or less said "its elementary watson!"
55:56 <Ampera> it's elementary dear data
59:59 <canadaguest> and if you don't mind, not to nitpick but one line I liked was when spock basically said 'illogical..yet true hrm"
00:19 <canadaguest> (re star trek)
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37:44 <canadaguest> think just going go off for now. have fun wondering why you're ever awake ampera ;) hehe
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37:59 <rust_collector> mornings
56:14 <Ampera> morning rust_collector, how are you
56:19 <Ampera> is your rust collection doing well?
56:33 Quit: Lemon ([email protected]) EOF from client
56:55 <rust_collector> oh yes, thanks for asking, let me talk for a while about my rust collection
57:25 <rust_collector> eeh, i am ok
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