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00:48 <K> what are you using for for meetings, Ampera?
00:55 <Ampera> Microsoft Teams
01:00 <K> i see.
01:33 <Ampera> It's basically post-microsoft Skype, but worse
01:45 <Lemon> hah meetings !
02:00 <Lemon> im looking for a lenovo x220, as a data-logging machine and some other stuff :>
02:07 <Lemon> I always loved those puppies
04:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, my old OpAmp video still gets over 1000 views a day, every day, 6 years later! At 1.5M views, it's the most popular video on my channel. https://t.co/MBxzdPWjzh
05:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: LBRY 📚 🔬 📣: Imagine if you went to a restaurant get a juicy hamburger 🍔 and the restaurant said no have this broccoli 🥦 https://t.co/rKSYPGyJFh
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44:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Why on earth can't you have a Youtube video set to Unlisted AND scheduled for release? Why does it have to be forced to private in order to use the schedule function?@TeamYouTube This makes the schedule feature useless for creators who give early access to Patrons etc. https://t.co/dbkGj4Frjx
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50:42 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
50:42 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
50:42 <MrMobodies> the chording? with the guitar at the end is excellent
50:42 <rust_collector> there is lots and lots of very high quality crap out there. It can be executed perfectly, but it is still crap. sure, you can say they are very good at doing their thing... but some times, i like things that are not perfect or pretty.
50:42 <rust_collector> yes, it just depends on what you like, right?
50:42 <MrMobodies> yes
50:42 <MrMobodies> well I like some imperfect things too
50:42 <MrMobodies> the only things I ever despise... Kate Nash? using some Beethovens tune in her track (mistakenly thought it was just Beethoven) her voice comes on and I start to hear swearing.
50:42 <Ysjoelfir> I'll go to bed. gn8 guys
50:42 <MrMobodies> Oh the swearing don't despise me as much as using the track to fool me into thinking it was something else
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50:42 <rust_collector> night
50:42 <MrMobodies> oh night
50:42 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AvV1RNdV04&list=PLhVPHi0Ws-P7-1iJUxv6xzznqZnh2UX99&index=30
50:42 <MrMobodies> 2.04 where the hole goes? in line with the tune
50:42 <MrMobodies> the tune sounds to me like someone in search of something not knowing where they are
50:42 <MrMobodies> I mean in literally situation where they are searching some place
50:42 <MrMobodies> I think all music has some kind of meaning but then my perception might be wrong
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50:42 <MrMobodies> I like this one for the beat
50:42 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhZ72Ayln2U&list=PLhVPHi0Ws-P7-1iJUxv6xzznqZnh2UX99&index=33
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50:42 <*buffextras> lego.jp.austnet.org set mode: +v EEVBlog
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50:42 <rust_collector> I like this one, for the... thing. I am not sure if it has any meaning either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuHOkPeGJ8
50:43 <rust_collector> ok, it is too late. good night
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50:43 <MrMobodies> I got disconnected, the line was up still but many attempts for the PPPOE to connect
50:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/MyspGXV.jpg
50:43 <MrMobodies> strange how it seems to show up, but no disconnection in phone line just the link
50:43 <MrMobodies> On both lines at the same time and a spike in both graphs
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50:43 <*buffextras> [email protected] is now known as Ampera1
52:07 <MrMobodies> I noticed many are being disconnected here within 10 - 20 minutes
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47:36 <MrMobodies> I just went out to see if they were doing night work on the cabinet
47:47 <MrMobodies> but no one there
48:03 <MrMobodies> It looks like it has stopped PPPOE reconnecting
53:41 <Halcyon> weird
55:54 <steve30> hi Halcyon
56:03 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
56:29 <Halcyon> I just woke up :P
56:35 <Halcyon> It's almost 1100
56:45 <steve30> hehe
56:55 <steve30> I'm going to bed in the near future, but I'm going to have a coffee first
57:10 <steve30> Halcyon, the air conditioning guy says he should be able to come next Wednesday :)
57:20 <Halcyon> Oh nice
04:22 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's desk
10:29 <steve30> I want a cute boy to cuddle.
14:08 <MrMobodies> I got an air conditioner in my conservatory. It was very hot last week and it seemed to work straight away
14:12 <MrMobodies> It called Gree
14:32 * Ampera1 slobbers on Halcyon 
14:35 <MrMobodies> I remembered one that took ages to work in a warehouse
14:45 <MrMobodies> it was a Daikin date stamp 1988
15:00 Nick: Ampera1 is now known as Ampera
15:02 <MrMobodies> after about 30 minutes it cooled the room down very fast
15:17 <MrMobodies> I don't know if there something wrong with the pipes
15:23 <MrMobodies> or its age
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15:53 <MrMobodies> slobbers?
16:01 <steve30> hello EEVBlog
16:26 <MrMobodies> oh "have saliva dripping copiously from the mouth."
31:32 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
31:37 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
31:39 <Ampera> call?
31:52 <Halcyon> Sure, very short one, I have to do in a minute
32:05 <Halcyon> *go
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07:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: The Amp Hour Podcast: This week on the show @ArkElectron, @OLearyKieran and Jeremiah Gillis joined @Chris_Gammell for a 2nd electronics consultant "impedance matching" episode. This is when we have multiple guests coming together to discuss a particular topic, like consulting. https://t.co/SOAbIRkcFh https://t.co/4uE5dwDnzV
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22:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wondering how many calculators Casio sells every year? https://t.co/Kvn53nL5pK
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32:04 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
51:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: A for effort for this digital marketer who wants to have a virtual coffee and chat about how he can help me "adapt my business model toward digital and online service delivery while also reducing technology costs" I wonder if he has a script to auto-insert names on the cup? https://t.co/LHvp7gFvnr
25:25 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The numbers just came in, 2.7M aussies out of work or have had hours cut. Chump change compared to the US and other places though.
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26:09 <Ysjoelfir> Hello all
26:18 <andre> hello
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39:24 <Ysjoelfir> someone should ban kiwiirc users. They just never say anything usefull, just join and leave, join and leave,....
45:16 <K> hello
48:51 <Ysjoelfir> hello K
48:52 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
49:11 <Halcyon> Dave wanted the web client on his website
49:58 <Ysjoelfir> meh
50:03 <Halcyon> I know, I agree
50:09 <Ysjoelfir> and hy Halcion
50:10 <andre> Now he got this discord thing.
50:12 <Ysjoelfir> erm
50:14 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
50:16 <Ysjoelfir> replace i and y
50:26 <Ysjoelfir> what is discord?
50:28 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm not a huge fan of Discord
50:36 <Halcyon> It's like a chat program for gamers
50:38 <andre> some fancy modern chat thing
50:44 <Ysjoelfir> oh, that discord
50:46 <Halcyon> It does text, voice and video
50:50 <Ysjoelfir> I think I have that, too.
51:06 <Halcyon> It's a bit clunky to use, I'm not a huge fan
51:12 <Ysjoelfir> For playing with a friend over the internet. but... don't ask me what it can besides being a ad free alternative to skype
51:27 <andre> I quite agree... I'm looking to get an IRC bridge to that thing
51:42 <K> bridge is wierd
52:23 <Halcyon> It is weird, but I'm open to it
52:31 <Halcyon> If people want to use Discord, let them
53:01 <Halcyon> I think some of the Austnet guys were looking into a bridge
53:10 * Halcyon looks in Damien's direction
53:17 <Halcyon> damian even
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> Ah yes. I checked, I have it. and I use it for just one thing - playing with one specific friend two games. xD
54:46 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, its clunky as hell
54:55 <K> for in game voice it is ok
55:14 <K> what games are you playing, Ysjoelfir?
55:18 <Halcyon> Yeh I mostly only use it for voice
55:31 <Halcyon> Although I mostly use Signal Private Messenger
56:00 <Ysjoelfir> it is, absolutely. and also for streaming. said friend has a bad connection at the moment for reasons everyone knows except from the provider. so i streamed the game we usually play together and he just commented what I should do.
56:58 <Ysjoelfir> K - I play many games. the two using discord are Factorio https://factorio.com and the Forest https://store.steampowered.com/app/242760/The_Forest/
57:03 <K> ah.
57:27 <K> that does not overlap with the one game i play
58:03 <K> wrt to irc/discord bridge - in one of my parallel worlds this is used - https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc
58:16 <Halcyon> Yeh quite a few people use them
58:23 <Halcyon> I think Ampera was looking into one too
58:24 <Ysjoelfir> well, it's not the only ones I play xD For the late evening, when swmbo is snorring on the sofa, I prefer strategy games like Crusader Kings 2 or Civilisation VI
58:32 <Halcyon> He is amazing when it comes to coding and setting these sorts of things up
58:43 <Halcyon> (He wrote the Twitter bot thing in here)
58:51 <Ysjoelfir> What do you play K?
58:55 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, Ampera is great :)
59:04 <K> i have 5000 hours on tf2
59:32 <Ysjoelfir> I actually never played TF2. (was there even a TF1?), but I like the idea and always wanted to try it, somehow.
59:46 <K> tf1 is prehistoric
00:40 <Ysjoelfir> I just googled it. That should have been a thing when I was in my CS1.6 high time
01:31 <K> about that time yea
04:37 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, those were the times. running around with a knife, killing innocent terrorists.
05:18 <Ysjoelfir> or jumping around giant rat maps, hiding behind a soda can on a fridge after nearly dieing because you missed the landing spot by a millimeter
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20:53 <Ysjoelfir> oh no, its the Lemon!
21:02 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon :)
21:07 <Lemon> its a-miiiii
21:49 <Lemon> how its goin ?
23:57 <Ysjoelfir> Good. Just drinking a nice cup of Yuzu Tea
25:14 <Ysjoelfir> and hoping that Ampera finally falls out of bed. I have to force him to write a CMS for me. :D
26:07 <Lemon> heh good good :>
27:03 <Halcyon> He shouldn't be too far away, I spoke to him about 7-8 hours ago and he wasn't far off bed. It's 0430 where he is
28:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats a bad time to fall out of bed.
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> its 1030 here. I just got up 1.5 hours ago
31:07 <Lemon> now the question is, will the thermometer box I spray painted yesterday look good
31:21 <Lemon> man I had to carve it with my bare hands
31:32 <Lemon> only a lighter, a knife and some shitty mini files xD
31:42 <Lemon> I really need to buy a dremel
32:32 <K> nonsense
32:40 <K> you obvs need a mill
33:22 <Lemon> hoooo I just found a nice thing
33:24 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1777908377.htm
33:39 <Lemon> resistors are supposed to be 0.5% so thats perfect
40:07 <Ysjoelfir> but the knobs are broken
41:08 <Lemon> two caps yeah
41:12 <Lemon> the knobs themselves are fine
41:36 <Lemon> but a working 0.5% 0-1Mohm decade box for 30 euros (maybe a bit more with shipping) is pretty damn fine
45:07 <Ysjoelfir> but the knobs!
45:29 <Lemon> I know I know....
45:34 <Lemon> but maybe I can find them later
45:35 <Ysjoelfir> I so damn hate scanners. I have never owned one that just works. Oh you want to scan over ethernet to your PC? well, good luck to you!
45:43 <K> would someone think of the knobs for once?!
46:14 <K> Ysjoelfir, the one we have in the office works very well
46:29 <K> otoh i'm not on a PC
46:48 <Ysjoelfir> Well, lets state it like that: mine works well, too. but only if I place the document into the ADF, walk back to the PC and tell him to scan
47:23 <Ysjoelfir> the function "scan to PC target" on the printer itself doesn't work, even though it finds all my PCs in the network - some even twice
47:52 <K> oh, that's fancy
48:02 <Ysjoelfir> which is a bit of a PITA if you don't want your documents to get kinked while being pushed through the ADF, like I do right now when trying to scan my bachelors degree
48:45 <Ysjoelfir> so you put one on the single sided glass scan plate... walk back... tell it to scan.... wait for the preview... tell it to scan again.... walk back, flip the damn paper.. walk back to the pc, tell it to scan,.....
49:18 <Ysjoelfir> thats annoying AF, especially since my printer is in another room and not near the PC
50:48 <K> you'll wear out the carpet at this rate!
51:39 <Ysjoelfir> I have wood floor, but yes. also if you try to use the ADF with good, thick, slippery paper, this is your result. Yes, I clamped the side guides tight to the paper. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uJMLgdAN6OhB_SZTERA0xxqnhkG1Mo0X/view?usp=sharing
52:31 <K> it asks me to sign in
52:37 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
52:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uJMLgdAN6OhB_SZTERA0xxqnhkG1Mo0X/view?usp=sharing
52:53 <Ysjoelfir> does this one work`?
53:45 <Ysjoelfir> wait, its the same link. But I changed settings for sharing, it should work now
54:02 <K> yea
54:28 <K> welp, that is a 2 person job then
06:03 <Ysjoelfir> FINALLY got more or less ok-ish
07:36 <Ysjoelfir> still some strange things, but hey. at least it is.... readable. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UY-6g3FnHsErFO05Z8bMMRTG5vr75CZV/view?usp=sharing
26:39 <K> does look a bit wierd to me, kinda like low-res scanned books
34:27 <Ysjoelfir> yep. but its the highest DPI option.
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23:20 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, I can't remember, was it you who was on VDSL2?
23:24 <Halcyon> Or was it MrMobodies
23:24 <Halcyon> ?
25:43 <Ysjoelfir> We have VDSL2, yes
26:07 <Halcyon> What's your sync speed?
27:50 <Ysjoelfir> where can i measure that?
28:28 <Halcyon> If you login to your modem, it will tell you under line stats or similar
28:31 <Halcyon> But it's OK
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> i did, but the statistics don'T tell me that. it just tells me the up/down speeds, latency ("fast"... no shit sherlock), signal/noise ratios and length and dampening of the cable between the routet and the DSLAM
32:11 <Ysjoelfir> it also telly me only the amount of synchronisations, not the time it takes. strange. I would expect that to be in there somehow
36:24 <K> someone be steelin'!
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55:04 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I hate web dev
55:11 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
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55:33 <Ysjoelfir> don't worry, I won't make you do that. I was just annoyed by my CMS once again
07:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1306 (2 of 5): 3 Cent Padauk Micro - PCB Soldering & Assembly https://t.co/RdGmJFfcF5
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11:32 <canadaguest> sunny hi to anyone still awake ;) heh
12:39 <andre> hi
12:56 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FySbHvzeAB0
12:57 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
13:31 <canadaguest> hows you two so far?
13:40 <Halcyon> Hey canadaguest
14:04 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
14:04 <K> that cat is too fat.
15:36 <canadaguest> I'm doing ok, hoping to make a bit more progress today but we'll just have to see how that goes
28:07 * canadaguest is still thinking to use C8 for the ac side but still has to see if I'm going to need to run any grounds or not
28:29 <Ysjoelfir> who is C8 and why do you want to abuse him?
31:19 <canadaguest> ysjoe umm...heh...actually C8 is that 2-prong ac connector like you would basically see on some laptop power bricks among many other tv/computer related things
31:44 * Ampera throws a can of polar smoked herring at Ysjoelfir 
32:21 <canadaguest> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320 here if you need a reminder
32:49 <Ysjoelfir> aah, those. why didn't you just say IEC60320 type C8, I would have known it then!
33:08 * Ysjoelfir eats Ampera's hering
33:25 <canadaguest> well thats not how many companies list it for some weird reason .. try type in 'iec' just alone and you get zero product results
33:36 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
33:45 <canadaguest> although digikey for example does seem to make some partial suggestions
34:40 <canadaguest> ampera hmm do you live in an igloo? :)
34:52 <Halcyon> He went to the bathroom
35:00 <Ysjoelfir> try to find a german mains plug by its official name. CEE Plug type 7/3. won't happen.
35:09 <Ysjoelfir> well, at least not in shops
36:29 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, sounds like it schukos
36:50 <Ysjoelfir> it does
38:21 <canadaguest> ysjoe but either way from the 16v transformer itself I'm only planning to draw at the most 12a (averages a lot less) so <2.5a from the wall even at only 100v doesn't seem to be any serious harm .. just no grounding unless I find out my circuit does need it which in that case then I'll have to change my cart to use a C14 and allow a bit bigger footp
38:21 <canadaguest> rint altogether
40:56 * canadaguest still has to look into emi
45:49 <canadaguest> mm yeah don't mind me maybe talking to myself just a little bit :P
46:00 <Ysjoelfir> xD
46:23 <Ysjoelfir> I do that sometimes, too, so dont worry
52:36 <K> isn't C8 a bit wimpy for 2.5A?
53:40 <Ysjoelfir> well, C8 is actually exactly for 2.5A max
54:02 <K> ah.
54:56 <canadaguest> k well if you want wimpy just look up razor-only plugs. these have just like a 200mA rating per iec :-s
55:06 <canadaguest> not surprisingly classified as C1/C2
55:53 <canadaguest> at least 110v*200ma = about enough to drive a small motor
55:54 <K> dont want wimpy! and my razor uses powercon!
56:08 <K> don't mind me, just arsing around
56:38 <Ysjoelfir> my razer uses pure male elbow grease, a sharpening stone and a leather belt!
56:38 <canadaguest> k heh, well if you want a friendly kind of confusion .. you know that ac cord you use with your desk computer's psu?
58:05 <K> um, it's macbookpro charger, standart eu plug on one end, and some wierd ass connector on the end that slots into psu
58:20 <K> come to think of it, it looks like that C8, somewhat
58:38 <canadaguest> k well I never knew this till I was looking up re ac connector standards last month but the ones you use with computers are C13/C14 but there is also C15/C16 which sorta has a fourth pin (I suspect its plastic generally) meant for high-heat things like electric kettles .. and thats not all there is also C15A/C16A which has same 4-pin pattern but sl
58:39 <canadaguest> ight different contours and is rated for ever higher temperatures
58:39 <K> the mating parts, that is
59:25 <canadaguest> and also finally if the prongs are horizontal rather than vertical thats C19/C20 which I don't think many people would have ever seen
00:08 <K> C19/C20 looks like "not impressd, pal"
00:21 <canadaguest> heh yeah :)
04:19 <canadaguest> k also on a related note to ac...
05:43 <canadaguest> I hate these stupid cheap polarized warts (even as much as I hate pretty much ANY warts in first place heh) .. a lot of the times when you try put it in you find out many times that it has to be put in upsidedown which then in some cases makes it lean away from the wall quitr a bit that you have to wonder how exposed the prongs are from that angle
05:43 <canadaguest> :-|
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06:44 <K> wall warts are the worst
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07:09 <K> oh deary me
07:31 <canadaguest> k yeah I mean who designed these things that they can't be fit with the cord coming downward rather than upward
07:36 <canadaguest> but :)
11:41 <canadaguest> k are you in or outside north america btw?
11:50 <K> nope
12:04 <K> ah.
12:08 <K> outside.
13:29 <canadaguest> heh ok do you like your ground pin to be on top or bottom? :)
15:17 <K> hmm ground here connects via side contacts generally
16:01 <canadaguest> ah..hm ok
16:11 <K> everythging with ground needs generally uses this - https://www.deltaco.lv/media/catalog/product/cache/5/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/e/del-110.jpg
16:35 <K> there is provision for ground pin in the socket going into the plug
17:08 <K> and devices dont care for live/neutral polarity
17:47 <canadaguest> k well here its a bit of a silly clusterfook (if thats still a safe word for you heh) because NEMA says grounding should be on top since its the first one to make contact (especially with your hand on top of the connector too) and thats how many old houses and nicely-done newer ones seem to have it .. but go into the city and now you find so many o
17:48 <canadaguest> f them are upsidedown that stupidly enough polarity-sensitive warts somehow also mirrors too
22:13 <canadaguest> k this is how a proper NEMA outlet is suppose to look like https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/B7SKMHRJte-0Nr1E0IsBjA/o.jpg and this is how too many city outlets wires them instead (and so warts expect them) https://tech90.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/nema5-15-electrical-outlet.jpg
22:23 <canadaguest> (just if you were wondering what I was talking about)
22:52 <K> those do not spark joy.
23:48 <canadaguest> can't argue with you
25:12 <K> but might just spark though.
27:36 * canadaguest stares at cart wondering
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30:45 * canadaguest squeezes lemon a bit? :)
41:19 <Lemon> heh :
41:30 <Lemon> im finishing to build my thermometer !
41:38 <Lemon> thats not really beautiful but well, it works
42:21 <canadaguest> :)
42:37 <canadaguest> I'm hoping to have an actual power supply...umm..around end of may
56:47 <canadaguest> anyway lemon have fun with temperatures, I think I'll be off for a while today
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