// #eevblog — 2020-05-16
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00:34:49 <rust_collector> pling plong dingdong
00:59:45 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
01:00:54 <rust_collector> yes yes
01:16:22 <hsn> hi rusty
01:16:26 <hsn> bye rusty
01:16:35 <hsn> see u every1
01:16:52 <rust_collector> good night hsn
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02:44:18 <Lemon> ma bois, just left the sensor in a few hours in a box https://imgur.com/1Zh6y9I
02:44:26 <Lemon> seems those waves I was afraid off are normal
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03:36:55 <hsn--> heh digikey doesnt sell small screws for 0.8mm or similar sizes ?
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04:04:53 <Lord_of_nothing> re
04:05:06 <Lord_of_nothing> Does anyone listen to amateur radio?
04:10:16 <Ysjoelfir> only citizen band, I don't have an amateurs license
04:26:40 <rust_collector> I think you can listen without a license?
04:27:47 <rust_collector> I know... it is like one of those police radios. if you have one, it is very hard to not say anything
04:37:29 <rust_collector> ok, I performed my nap. it was ok
04:44:18 <andre> The only radio I do is icecast. Something completely different.
04:44:56 <Ampera> I have a nice Grundig camping radio with SW1 and SW2 bands
04:45:01 <Ampera> but besides that no
04:45:19 <Ampera> It's like Usenet, really really cool if I had the time, but just not worth what little I have now
04:46:17 <Lemon> ho hey hi
04:54:49 <Ampera> Hi Lemon, how are you doing
04:55:07 <Lemon> hey ! ho fine thanks, been playin with the thermometer
04:55:31 <Lemon> and I just saw that if I use a sensor with wires put in a closed box, readings are pretty flat (like expected)
04:55:45 <Lemon> so I think the wavy behavior I get with the sensor in open air is normal
04:56:21 <Lemon> I just dont have any other explainations
04:56:29 <Ampera> Of course it'd be normal.
04:56:39 <Ampera> Currents, nearby electronics, anything can cause the air to change temperature all the time
04:56:41 <Lemon> the thing is, on breadboard it was flatter
04:56:52 <Ampera> We just don't notice it as the fluctuations are relatively minute.
04:57:18 <Lemon> it wasnt as wavy when everything was on a breadboard, thats why I was concerned
04:57:25 <Lemon> maybe it wasnt showing me the truth back then
04:57:47 <Ampera> Perhaps the breadboard had more components nearby, so the heat of them would have caused the temperature to be more stable.
04:58:12 <Lemon> hmmm well right now its tight in a box with tons of wires
04:58:15 <Lemon> so yeah idk
04:58:18 <Lemon> thats somewhat weird
04:58:18 <Ampera> Breadboards also happen to have quite a bit of metallic mass, so maybe that mass keeps the components a similar temperature moreso
04:58:29 <Lemon> thats a possibility yes
04:58:32 <Lemon> more likely
04:58:38 <Lemon> so right now im seeing the truth you think ?
04:58:42 <Ampera> Well the box would make sense, there's not so many air currents in there, so the temperature wouldn't fluctuate as much.
04:58:44 <Lemon> well true readings
04:58:46 <Ampera> Indeed.
04:58:57 <Lemon> the sensor is outside but yeah
04:59:02 <Ampera> >:D You're too smart of a cookie to fuck up like that
04:59:16 <Lemon> heh smart idk but I sure worked quite a few hours on that fucker !
04:59:20 <Lemon> so I was a bit worried
04:59:28 <Lemon> but if its flat af in a box
04:59:31 <Lemon> its working
05:00:10 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/a/fw2cqGi
05:00:25 <Lemon> first one is the sensor directly on the thermometer, outside of the box
05:00:33 <Lemon> the sencond is the wired sensor stuck in a closed box
05:01:21 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/6zX4vnQ / https://imgur.com/yMLdPpd
05:02:55 <Ampera> Lemon, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/710930508980289617/Emulator.PNG
05:02:58 <Ampera> This is how my project is going.
05:03:01 <Ampera> It's done! \o/
05:03:34 <Lemon> ho thats neat !! what is it exactly ? (graphs looks normal to you btw ? )
05:03:59 <Ampera> Oh yeah that looks absolutely normal
05:04:19 <Ampera> It's a GPS emulator, so you can load routing data from a database, and output it to a few different places
05:04:19 <Lemon> I kinda wanted to know if with oversampling I could add a decimal
05:04:25 <Ampera> including directly into an Android device
05:04:36 <Lemon> ho wow thats pretty neat !
05:06:23 <Ampera> I'm just writing documentation for it now
05:07:33 <Lemon> I think my program will stay at home, its not really meant to be used with something else without slight mod
05:07:56 <Lemon> well if you have something outputing i2c data on a single line, with 2 decimal places it will work I guess xD
05:08:07 <Lemon> serial not i2c
05:11:55 <Lemon> hmmm so I just moved the thermometer which was on the top of a lab psu (which is off, like everything right now) and on the front of my workstation screens, to my desk (maybe 50cm away)
05:12:11 <Lemon> temp got down by like 0.6C
05:12:17 <Lemon> maybe its the screens ?
05:12:19 <Lemon> thats weird
05:13:43 <Lemon> damn its really going down
05:14:01 <Lemon> I mean, heat rises sure but the lab psu is what, 30cm high ? xD so either its the screens or idk
05:15:13 <Lemon> almost 1C difference
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05:18:21 <rust_collector> so, the screens are on?
05:18:28 <Lemon> yeah all three
05:18:34 <Lemon> its still going down
05:18:49 <Lemon> I realize it was at that place when it was on a breakboard
05:19:07 <rust_collector> I guess they heat up, so air rises, and pulls in fresh air at the bottom?
05:19:20 <Lemon> I guess yeah
05:20:18 <rust_collector> or maybe it is just in line with the leaky spot in the bathroom wall, and the small vent under the stairs
05:20:29 <Lemon> 1,23C delta
05:20:38 <Lemon> and its still going down but its settling a bit it seems
05:21:10 <Lemon> thats those famous heat gradients I read about I guess
05:21:21 <Lemon> its pretty difficult to measure temperature at many decimal places
05:21:25 <Lemon> 2 is already a lot it seems
05:22:17 <rust_collector> that is why I am ok with a meter that measures within half a volt or so for most things
05:22:30 <Lemon> ha volts are easier :>
05:22:43 <rust_collector> yes, but it is the same idea
05:22:46 <Lemon> I mean my 30 euros fluke can measure down to milivolts on the 1V range
05:22:50 <Lemon> so theres no excuses
05:23:12 <rust_collector> I really have no use for the 3rd or 4th place behind the .
05:23:31 <Lemon> well maybe mv if you are working on low power stuff but yeah I understand
05:23:39 <Lemon> if you arent in voltnutting its not useful
05:24:37 <rust_collector> now, I would want a pretty ok meter. but I would probably use a cheap whatevermeter for most things
05:24:44 <Lemon> so yeah almost 1,4C difference
05:24:56 <Lemon> yeah the fluke is my cheap one
05:25:03 <Lemon> well, also my only handheld lol
05:25:16 <Lemon> I kinda want a second fluke but a better one, and sturdier maybe
05:25:21 <Lemon> which can measure current
05:27:39 <Lemon> if I manage to pull a third decimal on the thermometer it would make finer graph lines I think
05:27:46 <Lemon> not that I'd use it for anything
05:27:57 <Lemon> but its always nice to have
05:29:08 <rust_collector> hmm, have you looked at the fluke 15b 17b and those things? They could be good enough, maybe? but ok, get a nicer one some time
05:29:31 <Lemon> yeah I saw them but second hand sometimes you can get better ones for even cheaper
05:29:46 <Lemon> there was an old 77 for 30 euros but the dude wont send it :(
05:31:09 <Lemon> also I found another nice psu
05:31:11 <Lemon> but no I shouldnt
05:31:19 <Lemon> im running out of space and I have enough of them
05:31:32 <Lemon> but damn if I like lab supplies for some reasons, especially old linears
05:32:16 <rust_collector> yep. but you do have enough, so unless the have some special feature...
05:32:50 <Lemon> yeah I still want a higher voltage one but I'll stop getting 30-40v ones
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06:52:50 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, guess what I have for lunsj
06:54:20 <rust_collector> grønnkålstuing?
06:55:30 <rust_collector> a bag full of spring rolls?
06:55:47 <rust_collector> one fried goat?
06:56:01 <rust_collector> air soup?
06:56:16 <Ysjoelfir> What day is it?
06:56:33 <rust_collector> WEEKEND!!!
06:56:38 <Ysjoelfir> close.
06:56:42 <Ysjoelfir> lets call it taco friday XD
06:57:09 <rust_collector> you sick. ... . ... . .... .. . .. ....... ...
06:57:21 <Ysjoelfir> :P
07:00:36 <rust_collector> well, better luck next friday-day
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07:02:16 <Ysjoelfir> :P
07:02:24 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoy it with an ice cold raki
07:03:12 <rust_collector> say hi to the balkan brothers
07:03:35 <Ysjoelfir> I do when I see them next time ;)
07:03:44 <Ysjoelfir> can you guess what we will have tomorrow?
07:04:19 <rust_collector> kinky insertions and noodles
07:04:31 <Ysjoelfir> close.
07:04:38 <rust_collector> I knew it!
07:04:39 <hsn> Ampera nice gui :P
07:04:43 <Ysjoelfir> lets call it Lørdagspizza
07:04:50 <Ysjoelfir> sadly not from grandiosa
07:04:50 <Ampera> mmm, It's my abuse of WinForms
07:05:25 <hsn> i like the buttons near graph but not the (play pause stop record) ones ..
07:05:41 <Ampera> sorry
07:05:47 <hsn> xD
07:06:48 <hsn> Ysjoelfir do u ever used small screws used in mobile phones or watches ?
07:07:05 <hsn> do ? = did ?
07:07:19 <hsn> damn my english is getting worse !
07:07:43 <rust_collector> just wait. it will get worse and worse, year by year
07:08:01 <hsn> but why .. it used to be better .. somthing is making it worse now
07:09:02 <rust_collector> yes, you are getting lazy, because people seems to understand you well enough
07:09:09 <rust_collector> damn internet
07:09:58 <rust_collector> try writing something by hand, and see if that works better?
07:11:41 <hsn> yes, i should quit being lazy
07:12:23 <hsn> please dont understand me next time i do mistakes .. say bad jokes and try to make fun of my words and grammer if possible. thanks :>
07:12:26 <rust_collector> I think there is something to do with that anyway. being sloppy is good enough on irc
07:12:34 <rust_collector> sure
07:13:05 <rust_collector> who is i anyway?
07:13:11 <hsn> rusty
07:13:20 <rust_collector> what?
07:13:29 <hsn> who is i = u r rusty
07:13:44 <rust_collector> I am rusty, but who is i?
07:13:53 <hsn> i is imaginary
07:13:57 <hsn> fellow
07:14:33 <hsn> some people think i is ampera ..
07:15:00 <rust_collector> I do not understand. Why should I not understand you, the next time imaginary does a mistake?
07:16:39 <hsn> ok, i suppose i did grammer mistake in the previous senstence related to (next time i do mistake) .. so what should it be (please dont understand me when im doing mistakes next time) ?
07:16:59 <rust_collector> I?
07:17:04 <hsn> ah
07:17:20 <hsn> i dont like to capital my self :)
07:17:29 <rust_collector> hah! yes, it is stupid. but it is a thing
07:17:38 <hsn> ok .. noted
07:17:39 <hsn> sir
07:18:23 <rust_collector> pffft
07:19:22 <rust_collector> maybe, if you did not make your senstences so complicated
07:19:39 <rust_collector> I have to look up senstences
07:20:21 <rust_collector> nope, I can not find it
07:20:52 <rust_collector> This is going to get really annoying, after a few minutes
07:22:02 <rust_collector> Maybe someone who knows english should do this, I am just a foreigner, that almost went to school a few times
07:35:05 <hsn> its ok, the key idea is not to troll on my mistakes but to fix them .. xD
07:35:29 <hsn> dont try hard to troll i know you like it xD
07:35:32 <rust_collector> Oh. then we really should find someone else
07:36:28 <hsn> if you notice somthing feel free though .. dont worry I wont feel offended :P
08:02:32 <steve30> hi
08:02:55 <rust_collector> hi mr steve
08:03:21 <rust_collector> And hsn, I would not be so sure about that
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08:07:07 <Nothing\> hey ho fambly
08:08:34 <rust_collector> OI!
08:09:10 <steve30> hi Nothing\
08:09:36 <Nothing\> how goes?
08:09:44 * steve30 has coffee
08:11:15 * Nothing\ has coffee and a new kitteh
08:11:47 <steve30> :)
08:11:54 <Nothing\> which is unusual cuz i don't usually consume caffeine but i can barely keep my eyes open if i'm sitting still so i've been cleaning up and kitten proofing the house
08:12:07 <Nothing\> he's really playful and loves to chew on wires
08:12:37 <steve30> Meow :D
08:14:04 <Nothing\> https://i.imgur.com/VlE7Swg.jpg
08:14:07 <Nothing\> there he is
08:14:12 <Nothing\> we called him smokey
08:14:20 <Nothing\> and holy crap was that url hard to copy by hand
08:14:32 <Nothing\> i kept thinking the Vl was VI
08:14:34 <steve30> aww
08:14:47 * steve30 pets smokey
08:15:07 <Nothing\> was $275, shots included, neutering included, microchipping included
08:15:13 <Nothing\> so i think we got a good deal
08:15:39 <Nothing\> plus they didn't even bother looking at our adoption papers cuz the lady fostering them them was my cousin's wife
08:16:33 <Nothing\> we've decided we're gonna get a second one when the next batch is ready in 4 or 5 weeks, give smokey a playmate
08:16:53 <Nothing\> but holy crap this little guy's been a handfull, it's ust like having a toddle in the house
08:17:06 <Nothing\> you can't leave him alone with anything cuz he gets into anything he can
08:17:10 <steve30> hehe
08:17:28 <Nothing\> plus he's super playful, especially at 6:30 am when you're trying to sleep
08:17:34 <Nothing\> keeps biting on my toes
08:18:18 <Nothing\> or on my mom, he'll sleep right on the crux of her neck with his paws on her face
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08:20:40 <Nothing\> https://i.imgur.com/JS7moBi.jpg
08:20:42 <canadaguest> hi from evening canada :->
08:20:53 <Nothing\> hello fellow canadian
08:20:57 <Nothing\> where abouts do you hail from?
08:21:11 <Nothing\> i'm from souther ontario, just near hamilton, which is near toronto
08:21:22 <Nothing\> bout an hour southwest of toronto
08:21:22 * steve30 meows at smokey
08:21:36 <Nothing\> lol he more squeaks than meows
08:21:43 <Nothing\> or mews if he really puts effort into it
08:22:07 <canadaguest> so just to recheck, when a ptc datasheet says 'trip current' whats the context there? its titling two columns for both mA and celsius temperature
08:22:09 <Nothing\> i got him a dollar store laser pointer that he absolutely lavose
08:22:42 <Nothing\> canadaguest, wish i could, but i couldn't help you with that, sorry
08:22:57 <canadaguest> hi nothing funny indeed. but anyhow I'm currently sleeping in south quebec for now although the news said the provincial lines may be un-blockaded soon
08:23:16 <Nothing\> not too knowedgable about PTCs or NTCs
08:23:45 <Nothing\> oh, i didn't realize the provincial borders were blocked as well
08:23:49 <canadaguest> nothing yeah I don't know alot either but I can somewhat understand their amperes-related resistance .. its just that the datasheets aren't being very helpful :-s
08:24:28 <canadaguest> nothing well you basically only could travel over the line if it was a health-related issue so no rovering or anything
08:24:49 <canadaguest> not easy on split families that live part in hull and part downtown
08:24:52 <Nothing\> i shoud get some PTCs and NTCs to play and experiment with them for the sake of learning, but so far out of the 10 or so things i've ordered on ali express since covid 19 i've only recieved 1 package
08:25:14 <canadaguest> hmm maybe the problem was you ordering way far away? :)
08:25:19 <Nothing\> which was a pack of 74ac14 schmitt triggers
08:25:34 <canadaguest> I've ordered puzzles two times .. special dry food once .. etc and it all surprisingly came via canada post in a short time
08:25:40 <Nothing\> probably is, but ordering local is expensive in small quantities
08:25:44 <canadaguest> all of these were from canadian warehouse locations
08:25:46 <Nothing\> i only order maybe 10 at a time
08:26:40 <Nothing\> other places i've found local are like jersey or mouser or direct from the supplier from TI or such
08:27:01 <Nothing\> or something like umm oh what's that one site
08:27:04 <Nothing\> banggood
08:27:11 <Nothing\> which just seems crap
08:27:22 <canadaguest> not too sure what a schmitt is so don't think I can help you either sorry :) heh
08:28:13 <Nothing\> canadaguest, it's basically a switch with hysteresis, so say it turns off at 2.2v, it'llturn back on at 2.7v, sorta thing
08:29:10 <Nothing\> so yo uget more stability on the switching instead of it switching high and low at say 2.5v and when it reaches that point just rapidly switching back and rforth
08:29:32 <canadaguest> nothing so as far as I see it a ntc and ptc have their own purposes when used on separate spots of a large circuit, one to clamp on excessive inrush current startup and other to clamp on drawing too much continuously
08:29:54 <Nothing\> it's great fro eliminating noise or converting non-square wave waveforms to squarewaves
08:29:55 <canadaguest> ah, ok I see :)
08:30:14 <canadaguest> heh funny you mentioned noise .. I'm still trying to understand basic emi :-s
08:30:24 <Nothing\> eevblog has a great video on how to use them and the benefits as does wo2 aces
08:30:32 * canadaguest doesn't want to spend $40+ each for basic low-emi dc-dc so will make my own
08:31:22 <canadaguest> the issue of course is that I know how a rectifier works .. I can figure out the capacitor more or less .. a choke mm well not that much yet .. and as for how to cut down the ripple noise from the output side I'm a little too clueless yet :-s
08:31:39 <canadaguest> don't worry about me too much tho ;)
08:33:54 <canadaguest> what were you going to wire this hysterical switch to? :)
08:42:51 * canadaguest bounces a nice ball of yarn off nothing to get your catlike distracted attention back? heheh
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09:02:41 <steve30> i should get some food
09:02:45 <canadaguest> hmm think I do have something else too, is a ptc with vrms maximum of 245v still reasonably safe on the usual residential/commercial 240v voltage ranges or is it likely too much of a zero margin?
09:03:13 <canadaguest> steve30 can't help as I ate a hour ago and theres no leftover from it? :-s
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09:13:39 <canadaguest> tell me what you find tho steve30
09:17:32 * steve30 has sausage sandwich
09:22:14 <canadaguest> mm
09:23:09 <canadaguest> some kaleballs (or veggie "meatballs") still left around here, fresh gnocchi, and a bit of morning-made breads
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09:38:05 <_mamalala> ma ma ma my corona :P
09:38:06 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2JtsVumFA
09:38:18 <_mamalala> and anyway, aloha everyone
09:42:20 <canadaguest> hi there
09:42:23 <canadaguest> :)
09:42:32 <Ampera> morning
09:44:34 <_mamalala> Ampera: pah, barely past midnight :P
09:45:13 <canadaguest> its only 19:48 here!
09:45:15 <canadaguest> :P
09:45:57 <_mamalala> canadaguest: well, thats because of all the moose skewing things....
09:46:22 <canadaguest> nope its not :P
09:46:28 <canadaguest> its too early for the sun to go down yet
09:46:30 <canadaguest> :)
09:46:45 <_mamalala> pfff....
09:48:06 * canadaguest bonks you with the sun in that case
09:48:07 <canadaguest> :)
09:48:13 <_mamalala> i mean, seriously.... who would trust a canadian... they can't even decide on what their language is ... frog or munglish ... hahaha
09:49:20 <_mamalala> at least the frogs have t6he better wine ...
09:49:23 * _mamalala ducks
09:49:47 <_mamalala> they also may have the better whine, though
09:51:34 * canadaguest bonks mamalala to please make some sense :)
09:51:45 <canadaguest> anyway nevermind all of this, what're you doing electronics-wise tho?
09:51:49 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: CO-RO-NA !!! wake up!!! :P
09:53:13 <_mamalala> canadaguest: hm, well, mostly i have fun with electronics ... but then, i also earn a buck or two from the stuff i do in electronics....
09:53:16 <Ysjoelfir> actually I just decided to go to bed exactly now xD
09:53:20 <Ysjoelfir> so gn8 all :)
09:53:28 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: lame excuse
09:54:08 <Ysjoelfir> oh, _mamalala - I may have some work for someone that can cut acrylic, soon ;) but I can tell you about that tomorrow. gn8 all :)
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09:57:03 <_mamalala> canadaguest: if you really want to know some aspects.... http://atelier-klippel.de/Report2020/61_2020_TSG03_R_Almeter.pdf
10:00:59 <rust_collector> did you put some easter eggs in there?
10:01:47 <_mamalala> rust_collector: in some sense i did, yes... but i did not know beforehand that they would be those
10:02:46 <rust_collector> hmm, well, i will take that as a yes
10:03:04 <rust_collector> so that is good
10:03:17 <_mamalala> rust_collector: indeed
10:03:27 <canadaguest> hm I see
10:03:42 * canadaguest just does electronics either indirectly (like cars) or for hobby purpose
10:04:02 <canadaguest> still trying to make sense of a power supply box but I'll hopefully get there
10:04:30 <_mamalala> canadaguest: everyone has to start at some point
10:04:58 <canadaguest> well I already know about simple electronics but .. thermistors and dc ripples just aren't my things yet tho :P
10:05:33 <_mamalala> canadaguest: what do you need to know? maybe someone here can help....
10:06:42 <canadaguest> its ok but ty
10:06:56 <_mamalala> the best cover i know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGedPHeLYOs
10:07:15 <_mamalala> canadaguest: aww, come on, don't sy that
10:07:21 <_mamalala> say
10:07:43 <_mamalala> lets take thermistors, for example
10:08:09 <_mamalala> are you aware of what PTC and NTC means?
10:09:02 <canadaguest> ok heres the first one if you really wanted it: what does trip current mean especially if given as a column with mA numbers?
10:10:08 <_mamalala> canadaguest: it depends on what basis that trip curruent is derieved from ... but as an example:
10:10:30 <_mamalala> you regular circuit breaker is labeled as 16 amps
10:11:13 <_mamalala> you can have a current draw of 20 amps for a while, until it trips
10:11:23 <_mamalala> however
10:11:59 <_mamalala> you can also have a much larger current that trips the breaker immediately
10:12:47 <_mamalala> another example is with glas fuses
10:13:26 <_mamalala> they may be labelled as xxx mA ... and sure enough, they hold that
10:14:06 <_mamalala> but depending on the type of fuse, the point they trip at is different
10:14:58 <_mamalala> canadaguest: does that help you a bit?
10:15:11 <canadaguest> yeah ty, do you sometimes watch classic sci-fi movies btw?
10:15:29 <_mamalala> define "classic"
10:15:38 <canadaguest> this almost made me think of that one time marty exclaimed to doc "english please doc!" :)
10:15:42 <_mamalala> you know .. uh ... it depends on so many things
10:15:46 <canadaguest> and you did pretty much just that :)
10:16:24 * canadaguest thankfully wasn't a high school dropout tho
10:16:25 <_mamalala> canadaguest: meh, that is not sci-fi...
10:16:27 <_mamalala> :P
10:17:04 <canadaguest> well it was while doc was trying to explain why going from 1985 to 2015 'now' would not work tho :)
10:18:49 <rust_collector> you need to set your time traveling lathe properly. no problem
10:18:50 <canadaguest> mamalala anyway I'll see what more I might do tomorrow morning about using thermistor to cap the current spike for the rectifier capacitor
10:21:10 <canadaguest> rust_collector english please
10:21:15 <canadaguest> ;)
10:21:41 <rust_collector> Why? I iz non englees
10:21:52 <_mamalala> canadaguest: ah, well, i tried to message you here ... but as stupid as i am, i forgot my own /identify password...
10:22:32 <_mamalala> but thenm if you have any questions, my email is right there, at the top of that paper
10:23:16 <_mamalala> rust_collector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyF5A7BFnqw
10:25:10 <canadaguest> also re old sci-fi .. I've watched 'the last starfighter' .. have a copy of it somewhere in my big ex-bedroom pile too I'm sure
10:25:21 <rust_collector> well, here is one that is not a cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTvKaLW5bu8
10:25:43 * canadaguest notes it was the second major use of cray-drawn cgi, after tron
10:27:03 * _mamalala notes that the only supercomputer suitable as a sofe is the cray xmp sonething
10:27:14 <_mamalala> *sofa
10:27:35 <canadaguest> on a related note the car was actually just a standard vw beetle underneath which probably made it cheap to build not surprisingly
10:27:54 <canadaguest> (it would explain it being easy to get such a low short nose on that car, the engine was in rear heh)
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10:30:39 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvvd-9azD1M
10:34:18 <_mamalala> oh....
10:34:26 <_mamalala> and in any case
10:34:52 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJhMfOPWdE
10:35:08 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7sIqyoRFiU just because I like the drawings
10:37:43 <_mamalala> rust_collector: meh... lame
10:37:54 <canadaguest> I'll let you two have fun in your time ones, I'm going off for now
10:37:56 <canadaguest> :)
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10:40:00 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6iOXqZJQ7A
10:40:13 <_mamalala> all we are ...
10:45:15 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYo-ajDpXXw
11:02:46 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7oBKEiOgEw
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11:21:36 <Halcyon> Morning everyone
11:22:57 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, I see sovereign citizens are making a comeback with their craziness
11:26:06 <_mamalala> Halcyon: aloha there!
11:26:41 <Halcyon> :)
11:26:46 * Halcyon offers coffee to the channel
11:27:04 <_mamalala> Halcyon: hope you are all alright
11:27:15 <Halcyon> I am thank you, how about yourself?
11:27:16 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
11:27:19 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :D
11:27:54 <_mamalala> Halcyon: well, after some thousand pages of useless writing... well, iÄm ok, i guess
11:28:21 <_mamalala> Ampera: ahh, hello to you as well!
11:28:55 <Halcyon> Oh what have you been writing?
11:29:23 <_mamalala> Halcyon: do you really want to know? :P
11:29:30 <Halcyon> Of course
11:31:27 <_mamalala> Halcyon: ok... here you go... http://atelier-klippel.de/Report2020/61_2020_TSG03_R_Almeter.pdf
11:32:05 <Halcyon> Holy crap
11:32:08 <Halcyon> Sounds... dry
11:32:27 <_mamalala> ...
11:32:51 <_mamalala> you asked for it ... so don't complain :P
11:32:59 <Halcyon> I was curious :P
11:34:09 <_mamalala> well... as said ... you asked, idelivered...
11:34:58 <_mamalala> and please, don't give me that "i was just curious" excuse ... hahaha
11:35:05 <Halcyon> :)
11:39:42 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd1y-DDpASk
11:44:29 <_mamalala> ahhhh... yes ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-MdiUm1_Y
11:44:29 <steve30> hi Halcyon
11:45:31 <_mamalala> steve30: heya!
11:46:18 * steve30 meows at _mamalala
11:46:52 * _mamalala purrs back
11:48:36 <_mamalala> steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2YJF4Yhp1I
11:49:12 <_mamalala> steve30: also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_7wiz_lURg&t=46802s
11:50:12 <steve30> kitties \o/
11:52:59 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpigDGf6vXM
11:53:09 <_mamalala> ahhh.... jyeah ....
11:53:38 * steve30 passes Halcyon a kitten
11:56:15 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhCPt6PZIU
11:56:20 <_mamalala> ....#:P
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11:57:22 <_mamalala> lol
11:58:07 <_mamalala> "the powers that be give other powers to themselves..."
11:58:25 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
11:58:39 <_mamalala> don't worry, don't pay attention to the guy behind the curtain.....
12:00:43 * Halcyon shaves Steve's cat
12:01:19 <steve30> :o
12:01:22 <steve30> *hiss*
12:01:28 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-x59ON5Q88
12:01:33 <_mamalala> ahhh... yesss...
12:02:10 <Halcyon> https://i.redd.it/slhcp384rlq21.jpg
12:02:36 <_mamalala> :)
12:04:49 <rust_collector> oh you satanists....
12:05:17 <Halcyon> What? *smirk*
12:06:04 <_mamalala> well, i have lost several cats due to old age.... the oldest was 21+ years
12:06:52 <_mamalala> gues i'm the male version of "crazy cat lady"
12:07:03 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
12:07:19 <steve30> Halcyon, I'm pleased to say my hips have been better this last few days. They were hurting earlier in the week.
12:07:35 * steve30 snuggles up on T3sl4
12:08:19 <T3sl4> feeling hip, then?
12:08:34 <_mamalala> all that sound like some cop-out.,,,
12:10:13 <steve30> The doctor did prescribe me some more Naproxen yesterday
12:10:21 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eguD5AljSCI
12:10:55 * T3sl4 sips some port
12:12:14 <steve30> i think i'll go back to bed for a bit
12:14:07 <_mamalala> steve30: have a good nights sleeps then
12:15:04 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPC8QJF6sI
12:16:49 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIZutUkA7MY
12:17:41 <_mamalala> awwwww
12:20:17 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqSF08VER_s
12:21:18 <rust_collector> you and your cover songs
12:22:27 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFIwEQkH7sg
12:23:13 <_mamalala> rust_collector: mmmhhhmmm....
12:24:35 <_mamalala> "killimg an arab".... be lucky that you are even still alive, so to say....
12:25:07 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1qdTx6Lzg
12:25:12 <rust_collector> yeah, maybe
12:26:23 <_mamalala> rust_collector: you surely are the antichrist ... :P
12:26:51 <rust_collector> you are not very wrong
12:27:04 <rust_collector> but also very wrong
12:27:59 <_mamalala> well... i'm also very sick.. according to some "speialiastst"
12:28:30 <_mamalala> "specialists", hat is...
12:28:42 <_mamalala> or somesuch
12:29:02 <rust_collector> I never got the disease. i even tried to look into it, but nope, so far, I am immune
12:29:57 <_mamalala> rust_collector: us fuckers will rule the world.... haha
12:30:27 <rust_collector> meh, probably not, but we will get some things done here and there
12:30:45 <_mamalala> but does it mtter?
12:30:54 <_mamalala> *matter
12:30:59 <rust_collector> no
12:31:18 <_mamalala> woah
12:31:35 <_mamalala> the first person that seems to agree with me
12:31:56 * _mamalala feels humbled
12:32:14 <rust_collector> maybe it is an ag thing?
12:32:16 <rust_collector> age
12:32:25 <rust_collector> ....old man
12:32:34 <_mamalala> dunno, my birth date is 1972
12:33:05 <rust_collector> well, I am 79, maybe it was a 70s thing
12:33:29 <_mamalala> ...
12:35:05 <rust_collector> the year 79.....
12:35:09 <rust_collector> .....old man
12:35:10 <_mamalala> just wait a se....
12:35:49 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I
12:39:25 <rust_collector> ok, time for bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZpRXQlkTYs
12:43:12 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqSF08VER_s
12:46:14 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGedPHeLYOs
12:57:51 <_mamalala> and there is that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZpRXQlkTYs
13:03:53 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_2D8Eo15wE
13:08:41 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls_Jnu8VItY
13:08:45 <_mamalala> yeah.....
13:20:51 <steve30> i didn't manage to sleep
13:20:57 <Halcyon> Awww
13:21:34 <_mamalala> welcome to my world.,....
13:22:54 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZP54bClDRw
13:28:30 <steve30> i might go out for a walk in a bit
13:29:25 <steve30> I just had some nice cheesy pasta
13:29:32 <Halcyon> Oh yum
13:35:05 <_mamalala> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3qF8v9CTw
13:35:11 <_mamalala> !!!
13:51:42 <Halcyon> Great song
13:51:47 <Halcyon> I love Dire Straits
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13:52:10 <Halcyon> If you have a good speaker system, I have the Wave files ripped from CD if you want them
14:06:14 <T3sl4> Halcyon: mmm, i wouldn't mind
14:12:34 <Halcyon> Got somewhere where I can upload T3sl4 ?
14:12:53 <T3sl4> hmm
14:13:21 <Halcyon> I haven't got my cloud server exposed to the net at the moment
14:13:27 <Halcyon> Got to sort out a certificate issue
14:33:40 <steve30> I went out for a walk
14:36:35 <T3sl4> i had a walk earlier :)
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14:50:07 <Lemon> hello my name is earlyboi
14:50:08 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Lemon!
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14:52:50 * Halcyon gives Lemon a squeeze
14:53:02 <Lemon> ayeeee
14:53:06 <Lemon> whats up ?
14:53:13 <Halcyon> Not much, how about you?
14:54:00 <Lemon> hmmm my ex-gf I havent seen in like, 3 years maybe ? is coming in a few hours to give me my little guitar back, and say hi :> and im quite tired lol
14:54:21 <Halcyon> Uhuh, is that all? ;-)
14:54:26 <Halcyon> "Say hi" indeed
14:54:35 <Lemon> it better be ! x)
14:55:00 <Lemon> nah for real, I moved on a long time ago and im far from being interested anymore, same thing for her
14:55:07 <Lemon> we've been in good terms
14:55:17 <Halcyon> Report back in a few hours :P
14:55:27 <Lemon> but she lives a bit far now, and guess what ? her dear father moved in front of my house a few months ago lol
14:55:31 <Lemon> the world is so damn small
14:56:00 <Lemon> sure :>
15:05:41 <Lemon> ho btw, heres a pic of my famous thermometer https://imgur.com/opQxMin
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15:11:15 <Halcyon> Neat
15:11:17 <Halcyon> Did you make it?
15:11:33 <Halcyon> I like your old scopes too
15:12:46 <Lemon> yes ! with a pro micro, a random 18 bit adc I found on ebay for 6 euros on a breakboard, and a lmt70 sensor also found on ebay on a breakboard :> + a box that was covered in paint drops I found in my fathers stuff, I sanded it and spray painted it :> carved it with a hot knife and some shitty files xD
15:14:07 <T3sl4> Lemon: https://i.imgur.com/VXVnXsG.jpg
15:14:17 <Lemon> and heres the vbnet software I built https://imgur.com/9niudmX
15:14:29 <Lemon> haha perfect ! xD
15:14:47 <Lemon> scopes are a tek 2245 and a tds 540 :>
15:17:59 <T3sl4> mmm
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18:31:20 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
18:31:21 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
18:31:31 <Ysjoelfir> Hello EEVBlog Bot
18:31:33 <Lemon> hi boi
18:31:40 <Ysjoelfir> Hello Lemon
18:31:40 <Lemon> eevblot
18:31:41 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
18:31:50 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon, EEVBlog, how are you?
18:32:17 <Lemon> ho fine thanks, ex gf coming in 10 minutes to give me back a guitar I lend her years ago
18:32:42 <Ysjoelfir> you play the guitarr?
18:32:45 <Ysjoelfir> -r
18:32:55 <Lemon> I used to yes, its been a long time sadly
18:33:32 <Ysjoelfir> hmm
18:33:48 <Lemon> I started on classical, then electric for a few years, then back to classical :>
18:34:09 <Ysjoelfir> I have a guitar I actually never use. was rather expensive from a beginners perspective. still looking for a way to sell it. handmade in spain by rafael ortega.
18:34:34 <Lemon> wow indeed !
18:34:42 <Lemon> Id say ask a professionnal store
18:34:51 <Ysjoelfir> I started learning it but my guitar teacher kicked me out because I never managed to learn the bare.. barree... bárèêé chords
18:37:25 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like an idea. I should ask if they would be willing to trade it for either a bagpipe practice chanter or a hurdy gurdy (with me paying a bonus off course...)
18:37:55 <Lemon> ho no no
18:37:58 <Lemon> no bagpipe please
18:38:00 <Lemon> nooooooo !
18:38:23 <Lemon> (I also quited guitar classes because I refused to learn the proper way to read partitions :> )
18:38:30 <Lemon> I learnt all by ear and it was pissing him off
18:39:04 <Ysjoelfir> yes! bagpipes are so great!
18:39:26 <Lemon> I hate it so much Xd
18:39:33 <Ysjoelfir> aaaah, come on!
18:39:37 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXm8JdC4k4c listen to that
18:39:56 <Lemon> no please no xd
18:40:00 <Lemon> its a torture !
18:40:01 <Ysjoelfir> listen
18:40:02 <Ysjoelfir> to
18:40:02 <Ysjoelfir> that
18:40:03 <Ysjoelfir> !
18:40:05 <Ysjoelfir> :P
18:40:11 <Ysjoelfir> and look at the sexy girls
18:40:37 <Ysjoelfir> and the old indian guys in the background looking quite irritated seeing a woman in a skirt playing the bagpipes in an indian market
18:40:45 <Lemon> yeah I do know that one, a friend wanted one too and kept spamming it xd
18:41:04 <Lemon> at least theres a melody in this one x)
18:41:13 <Lemon> but traditionnal scottish bagpipes songs
18:41:17 <Lemon> damn my ears
18:42:34 <Lemon> show me that guitar btw please !
18:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> oh come on. traditional scottish songs are great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqeYKf8tdsU
18:42:45 <Lemon> I have a nice classical one, an alhambra 5p if im right
18:42:51 <Lemon> I dont remember the model number
18:43:00 <Ysjoelfir> its just a basic classic concert guitar. let me take a pic
18:43:56 <Ysjoelfir> but I admit, I prefer irish bagpipes over scottish ones. they have a way.... "softer" sound, not that squeaking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvW3bI-83U
18:46:19 <Lemon> thats acceptable yes
18:46:35 <Lemon> https://i.imgur.com/VXVnXsG.jpg
18:47:22 <Lemon> ho guess what, ex gf is late !
18:47:26 <Lemon> why im not surprised
18:47:47 <Lemon> god damn I hate this so much
18:47:56 <Lemon> is it too fucking hard to plan ahead ?
18:48:09 <Lemon> 3-5 minutes ok, acceptable
18:48:16 <Lemon> but we are talking 1 hour late, she just msged me
18:48:30 <Ysjoelfir> oh god.
18:48:33 <Lemon> it was even longer sometimes
18:48:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats just... like.. "mneh, I don't care"-late
18:48:47 <Ysjoelfir> so, let me just upload the guitar pics
18:49:20 <Lemon> no but if she needs to be at 10;45 here, at 10;45 she'll get ready, go out at 11;00 with 30 minutes of driving
18:49:41 <Lemon> once we needed to go to amsterdam with her sister and sis bf
18:49:48 <Lemon> we were supposed to go at 20;00
18:49:54 <Lemon> we went off at midnight
18:49:59 <Lemon> fucking midnight
18:50:14 <Ysjoelfir> while I do that you should listen to the hurdy gurdy, which is often also said it is simmilar to a bagpipe in terms of sound profile. I like it even more, but those beasts are expensive as fuck
18:50:18 <Ysjoelfir> wow
18:50:19 <Lemon> we waited 4 hours, 2 for them to come here, and two more to get ready
18:50:28 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... just... wow
18:50:38 <Ysjoelfir> (your late ex gf I mean) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrolrI30_c
18:50:57 <Lemon> ha yes I didnt know the name
18:51:02 <Lemon> I dont want to know the price
18:51:29 <Lemon> but I advice you to start maybe with something simpler, to know if you have the patience
18:52:01 <Lemon> because getting expensive instruments can be sad if you realise you dont havve the patience to learn it, especially if the learning curve is steep
18:54:59 <Lemon> as much as I love my alhambra, I havent played much with it :/
18:55:14 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xKH6Cakqu7lTwkYQnOls-DfHAHEanQWB?usp=sharing
18:55:16 <Lemon> and it was close to 1k euros if I remember right
18:55:39 <Ysjoelfir> Yeah, which is why I want to learn bagpipes. its an instrument i love and you learn it like a simple flute.
18:55:58 <Lemon> ha it really looks like mine
18:56:11 <Lemon> thats a nice guitar
18:56:21 <Lemon> hmmm I heard bagpipes werent that easy in facyt
18:56:24 <Lemon> but you dont smoke
18:56:26 <Lemon> which is a plus
18:57:26 <Ysjoelfir> it absolutely is. bagpipes are hard to play in terms of the "real" instrument thing, yes
18:58:10 <Ysjoelfir> however,m learning to play it is relatively easy. but learning to breathe the right way and pump the sack is the hard part. and yes, it was a nice guitar. now its detuned as fuck xD
18:58:53 <Lemon> ha yeah thats what I meant by hard
18:59:00 <Lemon> hoo no problem ! its easy to tune :>
18:59:05 <Ysjoelfir> even more though if you want to learn a type of bagpipe that is not that common as the great highland pipes (the scottish ones). like, the irish Uillean pipes for example.
18:59:10 <Lemon> it deserves new strings too I guess
18:59:19 <Ysjoelfir> yeah I know, I even have a tuning thingy
18:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> but meh. I don't bother with it anymore, I want to get rid of it
18:59:33 <Lemon> yeah when we got to your home I almost died taking those stairs
18:59:42 <Ysjoelfir> seriously? :D
19:00:02 <Lemon> yes, smoking is really bad, add to that a total lack of sports :>
19:02:09 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
19:02:36 <Ysjoelfir> however, I'm gonna play a game now. I installed Elex yesterday and I like it so far
19:02:37 <Lemon> ho btw, the metrix psu I got recently
19:02:49 <Ysjoelfir> but I can still read here on the second screen
19:02:52 <Lemon> I openned it by curiosity, theres a cap the size of a 33cl coke can !
19:02:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes? whats whith it?
19:03:05 <Ysjoelfir> heh. yeah, those were enormous back then
19:03:09 <Lemon> 100V 6000uF if im right
19:03:13 <Lemon> impressive stuff xD
19:03:16 <Lemon> I love them
19:03:25 <Lemon> I kinda want to buy one or two bigass ones just for fun :>
19:03:39 <Ysjoelfir> I stuff some into the packet that I will send you
19:04:04 <Lemon> hooo thats really nice !! but please tell me for the shipping !
19:04:46 <Ysjoelfir> as soon as its full to the top :)
19:04:59 <Lemon> haha I cant wait :PP
19:05:22 <Lemon> btw that decade box was already sold :(
19:05:24 <Lemon> it was a neat deal
19:41:50 <steve30> hi
19:41:58 <Lemon> hello steve
19:47:52 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1778940511.htm/ nice one, the guy wrapped it in food cellophane or whatever is it called and said 'new'
20:07:47 <Halcyon> *yawns*
20:08:10 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:08:15 <Halcyon> Herro
20:08:31 <steve30> I went to sleep for a few hours. I'm tired though.
20:08:39 <Halcyon> Naww
20:08:42 <Halcyon> I watched a movie
20:08:51 <steve30> I need to go to my grandmothers. I think I'll go back to bed afterwards.
20:09:08 <Halcyon> Helping with the garden?
20:09:13 <steve30> yeah
20:10:02 <Halcyon> You're a good boy
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20:14:41 <Halcyon> steve30, I bought some salt and cracked pepper crisps from the UK today
20:14:43 <Halcyon> They were yummy
20:14:49 <steve30> yum
20:16:08 <Halcyon> I think they sell them at M&S
20:16:13 <Halcyon> But my local supermarket has them
20:16:34 <steve30> yeah, i used to get the M&S ones now and again
20:17:07 <Halcyon> I've been trying things :)
20:17:13 <Halcyon> Like IRN BRU yesterday which was meh
20:17:55 * steve30 needs to go to M&S again next week
20:31:23 <Halcyon> https://imgur.com/opQxMin
20:31:26 <Halcyon> Dammit
20:31:33 <Halcyon> I mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnNyJ0t4Y0
20:32:31 * steve30 afk
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21:21:49 * Ampera prods Halcyon
21:21:54 <Ampera> good morning friend
21:21:57 * Halcyon prodded
21:22:00 <Halcyon> *is
21:22:03 <Halcyon> I need to pee, BRB
21:22:05 <Lemon> im back
21:22:14 * Halcyon squeezes Lemon again
21:22:30 <Ampera> Hi Lemon, how are you
21:22:31 <Lemon> Halcyon for the report, well, we talked a bit, nothing much :>
21:22:45 <Lemon> ho im doing good, just saw my ex gf, and you ?
21:23:03 <Ampera> I'm lying in bed, having just woken up
21:25:05 <Halcyon> So no over the pants fondling Lemon?
21:25:08 * Halcyon joins Ampera in bed
21:25:20 <Ampera> Halcyon, want to call? I'll get up
21:25:28 <Halcyon> Only if you're getting up?
21:25:38 <Ampera> well yes I'm up I might as well go the full monty
21:25:45 <Halcyon> Put some pants on
21:25:53 <Ampera> fuck you
21:26:07 <Halcyon> OK don't. More titillating for me :P
21:48:46 <rust_collector> ok, so this is tomorrow... I can not see much change...
21:48:56 <Halcyon> Nope
21:48:58 <Halcyon> I'm still here :P
21:49:07 <rust_collector> arrr
21:50:41 <rust_collector> hmm, someone has dropped off a car here. I have to find out what I am supposed to do with it. and maybe who owns it, lol
21:50:54 <Halcyon> At your house?
21:52:09 <rust_collector> yes
21:52:18 <Halcyon> My parents had that happen once
21:52:40 <rust_collector> I have it happen every now and then
21:53:02 <Halcyon> Just call the Police, they'll deal with it
21:53:09 <rust_collector> no
21:53:14 <Halcyon> What do you mean no?
21:53:53 <rust_collector> #1, I have probably agreed to look at it, and maybe do somehting to it. I just do not know which what this car is.
21:54:03 <Halcyon> Ahhh
21:54:06 <Halcyon> Hahaha
21:54:11 <Halcyon> So you are expecting a car
21:54:23 <rust_collector> #2 i do not want the police near me.
21:54:30 <Ampera> sorry, rust_collector, Halcyon just enjoys a bit of police brutality now and again
21:54:32 <rust_collector> well, not that I can remember
21:54:34 * Halcyon shuffles away from rust_collector
21:54:59 <Ampera> make sure the ends of your wrenches aren't too sharp or pointy, he'll book you for that
21:55:02 <Ampera> over the head
21:55:03 <Ampera> with a brick
21:55:12 <Halcyon> Yep :)
21:55:16 <rust_collector> mmhmm
21:55:18 <Halcyon> Good use for telephone books
21:55:49 <Ampera> I prefer the yellowpages, because I'm not a racist nor a communist
21:55:51 <Ampera> unlike you
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21:56:14 <Halcyon> I don't know if we have phonebooks here anymore? I haven't seen one for ages
21:56:20 <rust_collector> okay then. just watch out for electric door handles, and try to not get shot.
21:56:36 <rust_collector> I think up here, you have to order them?
21:56:37 <Ampera> rust_collector, you can't shoot Halcyon, that's illegal
21:56:53 <rust_collector> no, it is only illegal if they find him
21:56:54 <Halcyon> Apparently they are upon request now
21:56:56 <Ampera> He's only allowed to shoot you, your children, and pets
21:57:14 <Ampera> especially your cats if you have any, he hates those
21:57:17 <Halcyon> Yep
21:57:22 <Halcyon> Cats get Taser
21:57:27 <rust_collector> good, do you want my address?
21:57:46 <rust_collector> bring extra batteries
21:57:51 <Halcyon> Heh
21:57:59 <Halcyon> They charge off a USB lead so I'm good
21:58:02 <rust_collector> ok
21:58:11 <Ampera> not those sort of batteries
21:58:25 <rust_collector> hmm, how long does it take to charge?
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21:58:32 <Halcyon> I'm tempted to order some phone books for shits and giggles
21:58:51 <Ampera> rust_collector, however long it take for four bogans in riot gear to swing it
21:59:53 <rust_collector> haha. be careful, if you do that here, you will probably get 4 books every month, and have to go thru alltheoffices to get them to stop
22:00:25 <rust_collector> if you are at a restaurant, your meal will be served on the phone book
22:00:37 <Halcyon> Oh apparently the Yellow and White pages are just one book now
22:00:44 <Halcyon> I guess most people don't list in it?
22:00:50 <Ampera> Halcyon, symbolic innit?
22:00:56 <Halcyon> Hahah
22:00:57 <rust_collector> if you meet someone late at night, they will give you a package of phone books
22:01:23 <Ampera> we might have some old phone books in the breezeway
22:01:38 <rust_collector> I think I have a few in the attic
22:01:40 <Halcyon> We use them at work for our gun loading thingys
22:01:51 <Halcyon> So if you "accidentally" discharge a shot, it goes into the phone book
22:02:03 <Ampera> Halcyon, brings a whole new meaning to the term rifling through a phone book
22:02:11 <Halcyon> Yup
22:03:08 <rust_collector> we used to get plastic covers for the phone book. they were the perfect size to put on the autocad manual books
22:03:23 <Halcyon> Why would you need covers?
22:03:30 <Halcyon> Didn't you get new ones every year?
22:03:44 <rust_collector> I don't know, and yes
22:03:56 * Ampera throws Halcyon down the stairs, then throws a phone book at him
22:03:57 <Halcyon> Maybe for the oldies who were heavy users
22:04:20 <Halcyon> That's mean Ampera, weren't you going upstairs then playing games?
22:04:27 <Ampera> I did go upstairs
22:04:30 <Ampera> he's sleeping
22:04:35 <Ampera> so I can't be up there, or I might wake him up
22:04:36 <Halcyon> The cat?
22:04:38 <Ampera> no
22:04:40 <Ampera> the guy
22:04:44 <Halcyon> What guy?
22:04:48 <Ampera> bud
22:04:55 <rust_collector> "THE guy"
22:04:56 <Halcyon> Who the fuck is bud?
22:05:02 <Ampera> what rust_collector said
22:05:14 <Ampera> he's sleeping on the cough
22:05:18 <Ampera> er, couch
22:05:20 <rust_collector> you should listen, Halcyon
22:05:24 <Halcyon> You have an odd house Ampera
22:05:30 <Halcyon> Speaking off odd, how is your brother?
22:05:36 <Ampera> Halcyon, I hate him
22:05:51 <Halcyon> You bought him a new video card or SSD not long ago
22:05:52 <rust_collector> is he named odd?
22:06:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, I did that to get him to do his schoolwork
22:06:08 <Ampera> so he'd stop harassing my mom
22:06:21 <Halcyon> And we hate him again?
22:06:26 <Ampera> I never stopped
22:06:58 <Halcyon> I wish I had a brother
22:07:06 <Halcyon> I have a sister and we aren't really that close
22:07:13 <Halcyon> Plus she lives like 4 hours away
22:07:51 <Ampera> I'm glad I don't have a sister, my life would have been weirder and sadder than it already is
22:08:33 <Halcyon> I'm thinking about making a chocolate pie thingy
22:09:11 <Halcyon> They aren't that nice, just some frozen pre-packaged bullshit, but I feel like chocolate
22:09:11 <Ampera> isn't it past 10 there
22:09:16 <Halcyon> 2212 yes
22:09:27 <Ampera> well that's 12 hours 12 minutes after 10
22:09:42 <Halcyon> I'm going to do it...
22:09:49 <rust_collector> DO IT!!!
22:09:49 <Ampera> don't you dare
22:09:55 <Ampera> I swear to fuck I will eat your entire ass if you do
22:10:25 <rust_collector> if he keeps eating pies, you will have a lot to do
22:11:02 <Halcyon> Ampera, all the more reason to do it :P
22:11:19 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Nah. my ass is pert and small
22:12:15 <Halcyon> I sent Ampera a nude pic on Discord
22:12:26 <Ampera> if I could I'd ban you
22:12:29 <Halcyon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447698094528659457/711189805156925480/20200516_221356.jpg
22:12:58 <Ampera> what sort of soup is that
22:13:06 <Halcyon> Chorizo
22:13:13 <Ampera> huh
22:13:15 <Ampera> that's what I thought
22:13:23 <Ampera> and I don't know why, I can't read it for the life of me
22:13:25 <Halcyon> I kind of made it up
22:14:18 <Halcyon> It's a spicy, sausagey, tomatoey soup
22:15:43 <rust_collector> ok, I should go look at this car. i do not remember anything about working on an audi.
22:15:49 <rust_collector> have fun
22:15:54 <Halcyon> Good luck r
22:15:57 <Halcyon> rust_collector,
22:16:09 <Halcyon> Oh, maybe that's why you have an Audi... because of your name?
22:16:29 <rust_collector> well, they do actually not rust that much
22:16:43 <Halcyon> It was more of a dig as Audi/VW for being a bit shit
22:16:50 <Halcyon> Modern cars generally don't rust
22:17:15 <rust_collector> I can agree that they are less great than people think they are
22:17:42 <Halcyon> I would sooner buy a poverty pack BMW or Merc than a VW/Audi
22:18:48 <rust_collector> and they are fucking annoying to work on, as every bolt is put in from the wrong side. you have to take the whole assembly off, to get the bolt out, even if they could just put the bolt in from the other side, and it would be a quick job
22:19:05 <Halcyon> I assume you repair cars?
22:20:22 <rust_collector> But, I think i would probably get a vw before a mercedes or bmw. some bmws and mercedes are just complete shit, and some are very good, but you never know, until you bought it
22:20:42 <rust_collector> i do fix things, a bit on the side
22:20:54 <Halcyon> I find the entry level Euro cars absolute shit
22:21:28 <Halcyon> Same as Subaru, really mediocre built quality and performance
22:21:34 <Halcyon> *build
22:21:56 <rust_collector> well, all new cars are. they are not built to last very long, so why would they bother making them very good?
22:22:18 <Halcyon> These days, I would by another Volvo, Lexus, Kia or some makes of Toyota
22:22:29 <Halcyon> Oh and BMW if I had the money
22:22:59 <rust_collector> as for subaru... yes, they are cheap-ish built, but they tend to keep running. I am starting to like kia more these days.
22:23:31 <rust_collector> bmw is probably ok, if you buy a new one, and sell it after 3 years
22:24:20 <Halcyon> Subaru for the most part are OK when it comes to the engine
22:24:29 <Halcyon> It's just everything that connects to it tends to go
22:24:33 <rust_collector> Both mercedes and bmw are pretty good, mechanically. but they get so many weird electric faults, and especially the mercedes do rust
22:24:37 <Halcyon> That and the body are just like tin cans
22:25:26 <rust_collector> well, the body of a subaru is only there to keep most of the rain out. the motor and transmission is ie most of the "frame" on those things
22:27:02 <rust_collector> replacing the clutch on a subaru is a bit different. and it is ok, unless it is one of the turbo versions, because the easy way, is to take the engine out, and leave the transmission in.
22:27:27 <Halcyon> Sounds like fun
22:27:35 <rust_collector> oh yes
22:28:08 <Halcyon> I'm on my 3rd Volvo and love them (mostly)
22:28:09 <rust_collector> otoh, the turbo versions do not have leaky rocker covers, like the non-turbo ones, lol
22:28:29 <Halcyon> I disliked my S40 which was more like a Ford Focus and you could see stupid Ford manufacturing in some bits of it
22:28:35 <rust_collector> yes
22:29:07 <rust_collector> I think the s40 was a mixed up thing of ford and mitsubishi, actually
22:29:18 <Halcyon> Like the fuse box under the passenger footwell, that was retarded
22:29:25 <Halcyon> And a pain to get in and out
22:30:06 <Halcyon> I don't understand what was wrong with a traditional box in the engine bay with a clip-on cover
22:31:47 <rust_collector> on the volvo trucks, there are 3 "fuse boxes" in the cab. one in the passenger footwell, almost by the floor, one on the top/middle of the dashboard, so you use the key, to unscrew the cup holder, and yank the top off the dash. and you get to a bunch of fuses and relays. underneath that, there is a 3rd box, which you have to take apart some more stuff to get to
22:32:43 <rust_collector> All this would be ok, if you knew where they put xxx fuse, in exactly that truck.
22:33:08 <rust_collector> Most are in standard locations, but some optional things can be anywhere
22:33:49 <rust_collector> heh, if you want an other volvo truck quirky feature...
22:34:27 <rust_collector> on most other trucks and cars, you can reset most things by taking the power, ie disconnecting the battery...
22:35:16 <rust_collector> well, it seems they have too advanced computers now, so they either store everything, all the time, or they have a backup power source. and probably both.
22:35:33 <Halcyon> That kind of doesn't surprise me
22:35:40 <Halcyon> But yeh it would make it annoying
22:36:15 <Halcyon> What shits me, just slight change of topic, why they haven't designed wallovens and microwaves to hold the time during short power outages
22:36:22 <rust_collector> so, if you want to reset the computers, you press the hazard flasher button, 1 time quickly, then one more time, but keep it pressed in for areoun 7 seconds,
22:36:24 <Halcyon> Surely with a supercap it wouldn't be that hard
22:36:40 <rust_collector> it will act weird for a while, until it relearns things
22:36:48 <Halcyon> Oh, that's easy, beats disconnecting the battery
22:37:29 <rust_collector> it is, but you have to know about it
22:38:55 <Halcyon> I wonder if that works for cars, not that I really want to try
22:39:28 <rust_collector> they also recommend you charge the batteries every few weeks, because they somehow forgot that they made cars for 90 years, that did not need that
22:40:09 <Halcyon> Wha?
22:41:02 <rust_collector> hmm, no idea, but I guess most modern cars has some built in hit button xx and yy and press the brake, and the radio will work function
22:42:12 <Halcyon> I mean, I've never needed to charge my car battery, the car seems to take care of that fairly well, but I do check it from time to time
22:42:41 <rust_collector> right
22:43:28 <Halcyon> Particularly if I haven't driven it in a while, I'll just quickly give it a top up charge
22:43:48 <rust_collector> it is just a thing with the new style trucks. afaik.
22:43:50 <Lemon> im back, again
22:43:54 <Halcyon> It's not unusual that my car is sitting at work for over a week unused
22:44:16 <Halcyon> Welcome back Lemon :)
22:44:48 <rust_collector> hey lemonface
22:44:52 <Lemon> Halcyon so you wanted to know, basically it was a case of : "me me me me me me"
22:44:57 <Lemon> hey rusty
22:45:46 <Halcyon> So, no hand party for Lemon?
22:45:47 <Halcyon> :P
22:46:09 <Lemon> ho hell no, I forgot how love can make you blind
22:46:09 <rust_collector> me me me me me me me was an awesome song
22:46:27 <Halcyon> Meh, a hand is a hand :P
22:46:38 <Halcyon> Although I prefer mine
22:46:39 <Lemon> but I must say something, two years ago I made a friend, and she is probably the most wonderful girl I ever met
22:46:46 <Lemon> so standards went pretty high
22:47:00 <Lemon> I see her tommorow, btw
22:47:09 <Halcyon> Ooooer
22:47:36 <Halcyon> Lemon, I'm being manly and talking about cars and trucks with rust_collector
22:48:06 <Lemon> if it aint using 20 litters of diesel per 100km, its not a car
22:48:12 <rust_collector> and I am just saying shit about volvos, as uasual
22:48:20 <Lemon> at least'
22:48:29 <Halcyon> Unleaded is cheaper than diesel here at the moment
22:48:30 <Lemon> volvos are the best !
22:48:42 <Lemon> I miss mines
22:49:00 <rust_collector> best to convert money into back problems and shop bills, yes
22:49:01 <Lemon> the s70 was nice but the 850 t5 was a real beast
22:49:01 <Halcyon> I love my S60
22:49:11 <Lemon> it saved my life giving her in return
22:49:21 <Halcyon> Best Volvo I've owned so far, although my C30 was more fun
22:49:38 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1774930206.htm/
22:49:41 <Lemon> not a volvo but
22:49:45 <Lemon> im interested
22:50:04 <rust_collector> no dc amps?
22:50:23 <Lemon> its rare on a clamp
22:50:28 <Lemon> I realized that
22:50:46 <rust_collector> rare is going a bit far, but...
22:51:08 <rust_collector> as long as you know, when you buy it...
22:51:19 <rust_collector> it is up to you
22:51:36 <Lemon> yeah if I get this one it will be to test various ac shit, motors, appliances, whatever
22:51:37 <Halcyon> Did you work out what that Audi was doing in your driveway rust_collector ?
22:51:46 <Lemon> I dont have a good ac clamp
22:51:56 <Lemon> 30 euros delivered for a fluke is neat I think
22:52:38 <rust_collector> Halcyon, yes, it is getting summer tires put on, and I have to look at the front right wnter tire, because it is leaking
22:52:59 <rust_collector> so, I should do that, lol
22:53:35 <rust_collector> I will be back with more rants later. have fun
22:53:36 <Halcyon> We don't have summer/winter tyres
22:53:42 <Halcyon> So that idea is odd to me
22:53:50 <Halcyon> I mean we have snow chains?
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23:33:49 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aASr5x0d3Ys&list=PLhNeRwBqkeSU9Km4O4cn1EFgTxvEK9hcN
23:33:56 <Halcyon> I want Tonkatsu now
23:50:03 <rust_collector> pom pom pom... lalalalalaaaa
23:50:55 <rust_collector> well, this audi was looking pretty good. otoh, it has plastic covers all the way underneath, so I can not really see anything.
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