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00:35:23 <rust_collector> what sort of things do you usually work on?
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00:43:46 <MrMobodies> mE?
00:43:54 <MrMobodies> I just take things apart
00:44:04 <MrMobodies> I am just a technician with interest
00:44:30 <MrMobodies> I am interested in whatever I can get my hands on.
00:44:35 <rust_collector> nice
00:44:38 <MrMobodies> If it is interesting enough
00:44:48 <MrMobodies> I got some Dedicated Micro video records
00:44:57 <MrMobodies> Don't know what to do with them
00:45:08 <MrMobodies> They all have a fault
00:45:40 <MrMobodies> Sometimes when they are shutdown the codecs boards don't turn back on and that was a genuine fault with some of the latest DM stuff
00:45:50 <MrMobodies> that's why they were given to me
00:46:12 <MrMobodies> I go on Ebay and buy the old Enermax power supplies.
00:46:34 <MrMobodies> Customers bring me their stuff with a broken power supply. I show them the insides and it encourages to pay a bit more.
00:47:06 <MrMobodies> I lend them mine and put an order in for a good one and they have no problems paying extra. A lot of strapped people in my area.
00:48:30 <MrMobodies> Also there is even a facebook page on how long some last before they need servicing
00:48:33 <MrMobodies> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.419692144732795.85048.176478752387470&type=1
01:35:07 <Ampera> youtube-dl is such an awesome peice of software.
01:41:55 <rust_collector> very handy
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02:19:20 <ThunderSqueak> Is it sad that as an insomniac, I am extremely happy that I managed to sleep from 10pm to 4am only waking up once about 2am for 30 minutes :D
02:20:16 <rust_collector> I would say that being extremely happy is not sad?
02:22:06 * ThunderSqueak hands rust_collector a glass of seltzer water flavored with some juice.
02:22:16 <MrMobodies> I have many things arriving in the post. It keeps me happy.
02:22:38 <MrMobodies> But ordering so many things can also be sad but it keeps me out of misery.
02:22:51 <MrMobodies> Just fill it in with nice things
02:23:16 <MrMobodies> Tools, bits and parts of Ebay when I find a joblot.
02:24:06 <MrMobodies> Also useful tools that I will need now and again.
02:25:34 <ThunderSqueak> hmm, you on a spending spree MrMobodies ?
02:25:46 <MrMobodies> Yes
02:25:53 <MrMobodies> They'll be things I need.
02:26:14 <ThunderSqueak> been a while since I did that, at least for stuff I wanted rather than absolutely needed
02:26:53 <MrMobodies> Yes, I got "wants" and "needs" mixed up again.
02:26:57 <rust_collector> "need"... depends on how you define that
02:27:11 <MrMobodies> But I am not buying anything else now I got what I need.
02:27:23 <rust_collector> ..... riiight
02:27:35 <rust_collector> until next week
02:27:36 <ThunderSqueak> sign of a great movie :D https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvrLEB6U0AAN7yZ.jpg
02:27:40 <MrMobodies> I wait and go on spending sprees when I see an opportunity,
02:28:59 <MrMobodies> Rent Movie: spend but don't own it . Buy movie and horde more.
02:31:11 <ThunderSqueak> I just bought the movie
02:31:28 <ThunderSqueak> if it is good, since it is a newer one, I may invite friends over later to watch it
02:31:36 <MrMobodies> Oh that's nice.
02:32:12 <MrMobodies> When I buy them, I copy them off the disc and analyze the background in the scenes.
02:32:38 <MrMobodies> I get obsessed by it.
02:32:47 <MrMobodies> for a while then I move over to something other movie.
02:33:06 <MrMobodies> I also hear the background music and sounds too.
02:33:07 <ThunderSqueak> ah, this is the latest jurassic park
02:34:12 <MrMobodies> Composer Michael Giacchino
02:34:45 <MrMobodies> He did a lot of stuff and in the music department
02:34:46 <MrMobodies> https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0315974/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr9
02:35:09 <MrMobodies> I expect the background music and sound is going to sound good.
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06:54:49 <randoh> oy!
06:56:28 <randoh> Anyone alive here? Anyone who knows rs-485, dmx and/or the max485 chip :)?
06:56:34 <randoh> I have a questin
06:56:39 <randoh> I have a question*
06:57:08 <randoh> I'm building a dmx controller here, and by looking around various schematics
06:57:15 <randoh> one thing sticks out
06:59:07 <randoh> About half of the schematics, only have the 120 Ohm termination resistor across DMX A and B data lines. And the other half also has these500 Ohm or even larger (one schematic had 20K) resistors for pull-up and pull down, like https://i.stack.imgur.com/Hrqk8.png
06:59:50 <randoh> What benefit do these resistors provide for the data lines? Are they only there to prevent the max485 from burning up? Since all my chips so far seem to die relatively fast :/
07:05:55 <randoh> A controller that is not designed for RDM can leave the resistors R1 and R3 and set the R2 Resistir to 120 Ω.
07:06:08 <randoh> is also present next to the image, I linked to
07:08:09 <DHess_US> I think the extra resistors to power and ground are there only to force the bus into a known state if no transmitters are active.
07:08:34 <DHess_US> They have nothing to do with protecting the transceivers.
07:08:44 <randoh> okay
07:09:42 <DHess_US> If only the termination resistor was present, then with no transmitter active, the bus would settle at zero volts and trigger spurrious bit changes in all of the receivers.
07:10:24 <randoh> mkay
07:10:29 <DHess_US> Some applications haves problems with random data showing up at the receiver.
07:12:42 <randoh> sounds reasonable
07:15:00 <DHess_US> http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?baseLiteratureNumber=SLYT324&fileType=pdf
07:15:24 <DHess_US> RS-485: Passive failsafe for an idle bus
07:16:02 <randoh> (y)
07:18:28 <DHess_US> The datasheet for the MAX485 mentions other Maxim parts which include fail-safe operation built in.
07:19:14 <DHess_US> https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX3080-MAX3089.pdf
07:22:54 <randoh> Mkay, I may try those.
07:23:06 <randoh> Perhaps they will live for a bit longer
07:23:44 <randoh> :D
07:24:03 <DHess_US> It is just a functional thing. It will not affect reliability.
07:24:22 <randoh> Currently, something causes them to heat up and not output anything the lights would react to
07:24:45 <DHess_US> How long is the cable?
07:25:12 <DHess_US> RS-485 has common mode voltage limits. If they are exceeded, they can cause that problem.
07:25:40 <DHess_US> RS-485 is intended to operate beween systems which share a ground.
07:25:40 <randoh> Even with a 1m cable, it just doesn't work :D
07:26:20 <randoh> Yeah, I'm planning to adjust my circuit to have an isolated dc/dc converter for the max side
07:28:04 <randoh> And should prbably test with proper dmx cable, not a mic one
07:29:04 <DHess_US> See, that is a problem. RS-485 requires a common ground which is the third wire not shown. If you isolate one side, then a ground wire should be added.
07:30:01 <randoh> I've been using common ground
07:30:22 <randoh> All grounds tied together currently
07:30:59 <DHess_US> What kind of data are you sending? Asynchronous serial?
07:32:39 <DHess_US> Apple had this problem a long time ago when they had the ADB (Apple Desktop Bus). Their solution was to use isolation transformers, like Ethernet transformers, on their RS-485 transceivers.
07:33:03 <randoh> DMX
07:34:12 <randoh> so as per the protocol, should be async half-duplex serial
07:34:27 <randoh> at 250kbit/s
07:35:12 <DHess_US> The serial communications method entails sending bytes of data in a stream of eight bits per byte, wrapped around a start bit and stop bits.
07:35:17 <DHess_US> So asynchronous serial.
07:36:23 <DHess_US> Cannot use transformer isolation then because asynchronous serial is not DC balanced.
07:36:30 <randoh> Even weirder... I have had this same perfboard working...
07:36:49 <randoh> but can't get it to operate normally anymore
07:37:32 <randoh> There's an arduino dmx shield with it's schematics available. Since that is an actual product, I may just use that shcematic :P Has proper dc/dc converter for the transmitter side, optos and all
07:38:43 <DHess_US> Yea, the optocouplers are a good idea for something like that but they are on the logic side rather than the RS-485 side.
07:40:31 <DHess_US> Ah, and the DMX wiring includes data+, data-, and ground.
07:41:03 <DHess_US> Make sure the ground wire is actually connected and is not open somewhere.
07:42:16 <randoh> hmm... Should check the lights
07:42:24 <randoh> Maybe they are badly designed, or something
07:42:28 <randoh> they are some cheap ones
07:48:09 <DHess_US> I'd measure the ground and data voltages.
07:48:58 <DHess_US> RS-485 transceivers are protected but could still use external protection against excessive voltages and currents in an application like that.
07:50:17 <randoh> Okay. Any good ideas on doing that for dmx?
07:54:38 <randoh> Can't put optos on the data lines now, can I :D ?
07:58:27 <DHess_US> No. The RS-485 transceivers have to be isolated on the logic side and an isolated power supply used.
07:58:49 <DHess_US> In theory you can make an isolated transceiver with the optos on the output but it would be a major task.
07:59:52 <DHess_US> Another alternative wuold be to make a "super" discrete RS-485 transciever but that is probably a waste of time.
08:00:26 <randoh> :D
08:00:34 <randoh> Ok, a dc/dc and optos on the processor side
08:00:45 <randoh> and hope for properly working lights
08:00:53 <DHess_US> Yep. It dosn't have to be much. An inverter could do it also.
08:01:17 <DHess_US> Although you need to use the optocouplers correctly to get 250kbits/sec
08:01:54 <randoh> Allright, I'll whip something up and go to jjlpcb :D
08:02:24 <randoh> even with the 10€ shipping here, they're cheaper, than local :D
08:02:24 <DHess_US> Probably easiest to use one of the existing isolated RS-485 transceiver chips.
08:04:43 <DHess_US> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/interface/transceivers/MAX3157.html
08:07:01 <DHess_US> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/interface/transceivers/MAX14852.html
08:13:14 <randoh> Will reseatch, thanks!
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10:02:12 <Ampera> I now own an HTC Vive.
10:30:41 <MrMobodies> That's good it also supports large glasses.
10:37:14 <Ampera> I haven't worn glasses since I was probably around 7
10:37:43 <Ampera> I still "needed" them (even though I could see perfectly well, I just had a lazy eye and they were corrective), but I hated wearing them so much I just stopped wearing them.
10:38:02 <MrMobodies> Lazy eye?
10:38:11 <Ampera> and lo and behold, even though I can't breath, smell, nor hear to save my life, I can read a sign from half way across a US supermarket.
10:38:15 <MrMobodies> is that like a ghosting of moving objects over darkness
10:38:22 <Ampera> No, it's a slow to focus eye.
10:38:44 <MrMobodies> I am having issues with my vision
10:38:54 <Ampera> I can still sort of have a similar effect, one eye actually (renders?) colour differently than the other, one being slightly bluer and the other slightly redder, and there is a very slight focusing differential.
10:38:57 <MrMobodies> I can see well but I am seeing artifacts
10:39:05 <MrMobodies> blue...
10:39:15 <Ampera> That may or may not be normal, as everybody has vision artifacts.
10:39:20 <MrMobodies> When I see a bright light in the dark I see blue rings, not around it but on the sides
10:39:21 <Ampera> it just depends to what severity they are.
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10:39:55 <Ampera> yeah that doesn't sound too off the rocker.
10:40:11 <Ampera> Unless it's blinding and stays around for ages, very large contrasts can tax even my eyes.
10:40:51 <MrMobodies> I was exposed to those bright leds lamps months before the issue. but I spend all day at the screens so maybe that's contributing
10:41:19 <MrMobodies> Oh yes I also see a after image
10:41:38 <MrMobodies> a negative after image when looking from bright to dark in a dark room
10:41:55 <Ampera> Yeah, that's normal.
10:42:16 <Ampera> So long as it's not intense and doesn't stay around, if i look at a bright light, even in a lit room, and look away, there's a ghost.
10:42:37 <MrMobodies> The opticians said that there was nothing wrong with my eyes, I was just being paranoid and to stop drinking too much coffee that can stimulate the nerves too much and spend less time on looiing at screeens
10:42:38 <Ampera> It's not that significant, and it goes away, so as long as it's not really really bad, and stays there for half an hour, then I wouldn't necessarily work about it.
10:43:17 <Ampera> Yeah, I'd say they are right. If they can't see any damage after looking in your eyes, then there probably isn't any, and you're just not handling normal stimulus how a lot of people would.
10:43:28 <MrMobodies> Maybe I need to get out and see more daylight.
10:43:50 <Ampera> Eyes aren't CCDs, they have a lot of noise, often from background radiation similar to a TV.
10:44:15 <Ampera> How tired you are, contrasting brightnesses, staring at the same thing for a while.
10:44:44 <Ampera> I mean even staring at my monitors, if I think about it, I can definitely see patterns and artifacts, but your mind compensates for that and filters it out.
10:45:59 <MrMobodies> I nearly had a stroke last year in early December
10:46:18 <Ampera> alright maybe that could be a contributing factor, ianao
10:46:18 <MrMobodies> that ambulance came and it turned out to be food poisoning and taking heart slowing sleeping tablets
10:46:36 <MrMobodies> then I had a humming in my right ear
10:46:41 <MrMobodies> and the thing with the vision started
10:46:53 <MrMobodies> and I see dots in the dark and blue
10:49:07 <Ampera> maybe you're turning into a hummingbird
10:49:54 <MrMobodies> They call it tinnitus
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10:50:36 <MrMobodies> but I am in a noisy workshop most of the day where the servers and the fans are on the right
10:51:28 <Ampera> yeah, my ears ring too.
10:51:40 <Ampera> That's normal to people too stupid to wear ear protection and turn down their dang headphones.
10:52:01 <Ampera> It's probably why I'm not so great in the hearing department myself, because I liked to blast headphones into my ears when I was younger.
10:52:25 <rust_collector> HEY KIDS!!! WHAT ARE YOU SO BUSY TALKING ABOUT??? WHAATA?? WHAAT?
10:52:30 <MrMobodies> I am deaf on certain frequencies
10:52:44 <MrMobodies> but I can hear other frequencies thartt not many can hear
10:52:56 <MrMobodies> so certain sounds sound louder than what they appear to sound
10:53:16 <MrMobodies> and I can hear certain sounds from a long distance
10:53:19 <DHess_US> https://i.postimg.cc/Gtyg8F0W/Malware.jpg
10:53:20 <MrMobodies> on my left ear
10:53:48 <rust_collector> I can hear if the wife is charging a nokia or a samsung phone.
10:54:00 <MrMobodies> that's nice
10:54:20 <rust_collector> not really, if it is in the bedroom
10:54:35 <MrMobodies> what I do in the house I put underlay int he doors to when someone slams it
10:54:38 <MrMobodies> it doesn't annoy me
10:55:02 <MrMobodies> in the like the bit where the lock slides in and the frame
10:55:08 <MrMobodies> 11m red underlay
10:55:11 <Ampera> I just have headphones on and listen to music all day
10:55:18 <Ampera> currently listening to the Monkees.
10:55:33 <Ampera> I most of the time just listen to the same song over and over again until I'm so sick of it I can't bear to hear it anymore.
10:55:57 <MrMobodies> When I find something I like it seems the thing to do
10:56:15 <Ampera> I have a very diverse and interesting taste in music, so there's ususally something for me.
10:57:47 <MrMobodies> I like detail like in the older stuff
11:00:41 <MrMobodies> I got one of those old Philips HD1502 from 2008 from Amazon marketplace. I remembered when i was trying to buyy it I could only find it selling refurbished. When I brought it the same seller listed a new one for the same price.
11:01:13 <MrMobodies> What I like about it, I can swap the rechargeables over and it doesn't cut out at low volumes like the others.
11:03:15 <MrMobodies> What's that about malware?
11:05:57 <MrMobodies> "Don't accept a friend request form/from this guy... It could be Mal-ware"
11:06:37 <MrMobodies> If you mean me, I don't do friend requests.
11:07:06 <Ampera> want to be my friend?
11:07:31 <MrMobodies> If you like, but not as a request.
11:07:44 <Ampera> that was a request, but not a friend request
11:07:47 <Ampera> just a request for friendship
11:07:55 <MrMobodies> oh okay
11:07:56 <Ampera> either way, it's a stupid idea to have me as a friend, just ask Halcyon
11:09:04 <MrMobodies> Don't have many friends at home the only ones I have are older than me.
11:09:05 <MrMobodies> So I look elsewhere.
11:09:38 <MrMobodies> I think it's the area. Which is why I am moving as well. Not very many nice people about.
11:10:26 <Ampera> how old are you?
11:10:32 <MrMobodies> 34
11:10:37 <Ampera> well I'm 16.
11:10:57 <rust_collector> move to holland.
11:12:07 <Ampera> me or MrMobodies?
11:12:25 <MrMobodies> Someone I worked with took me there once. It turned out to be a disaster.
11:12:37 <rust_collector> well, everyone should move to holland, imo
11:12:51 <MrMobodies> The food was nice
11:13:09 <MrMobodies> but it was what they did... all the wrong things imaginable
11:13:23 <rust_collector> the dutch?
11:13:35 <MrMobodies> they people who took me there
11:13:38 <rust_collector> right
11:14:11 <rust_collector> I really enjoyed the few times I went there, because the people were so laid back and in general nice
11:14:14 <MrMobodies> they had a day of, drink drink drink... eat eat eat... smoke smoke smoke (they green stuff) and the drugs on the street.
11:14:29 <MrMobodies> It looked nice and clean
11:14:29 <Ampera> I may or may not move to Germany at some point in my life, still thinking about it.
11:14:32 <Ampera> I have the citizenship.
11:15:11 <rust_collector> do you speak german?
11:15:16 <MrMobodies> No
11:15:23 <MrMobodies> Oh oops
11:15:25 <rust_collector> ampera
11:16:03 <Ampera> barely
11:16:20 <Ampera> I used to be able to speak at around a first grade level when I was younger, but I've lost some of it, and stopped learning it when I was young.
11:16:40 <Ampera> I have a basic grasp on the core gramatical structure and minor vocabulary, so I could probably pick it up very fast if I tried to learn it again.
11:16:49 <rust_collector> that is ok, you just lost a few weeks then....
11:17:15 <MrMobodies> I like Germans stuff
11:17:19 <MrMobodies> they seem to last
11:18:03 <rust_collector> Old german stuff was good. Industrial german stuff is good. cheap german stuff might as well be chinese
11:18:35 <rust_collector> Imo, that is
11:18:55 <Ampera> well even though us Germans are the smartasses of Europe, the universal constant of you get what you pay for is omnipresent.
11:19:05 <MrMobodies> I got an Audi 100e 1994 Quattro and when things go wrong with it I am given advance warning.
11:19:24 <MrMobodies> I seem to spend more on the parts than the labour
11:19:26 <Ampera> I actually do have a car, an American one.
11:20:05 <MrMobodies> They 're going to be built just as nice.
11:20:37 <Ampera> I think I need to go to sleep, it's way past my bedtime
11:20:40 <Ampera> 19:24
11:20:43 <Ampera> night
11:20:49 <MrMobodies> night
11:21:05 <rust_collector> I have had my sleepytime, it is tomorrow again for me
11:21:11 <rust_collector> good night
11:21:32 <rust_collector> 01:23
11:21:34 <rust_collector> yaay!
11:21:43 <MrMobodies> it is 00:27
11:22:22 <rust_collector> mine is :24?
11:22:49 <MrMobodies> mdinight
11:23:51 <rust_collector> Going to work in... about half an hour
11:24:52 <MrMobodies> With little to no work I tempted to live in the night and sleep in the day
11:25:03 <MrMobodies> nice and peaceful
11:25:30 <MrMobodies> no sounds of hooligans riding their cars with the wrong exhausts which is what I often hear in the da
11:25:33 <rust_collector> I did nights for several years.
11:25:53 <MrMobodies> and the phones going off with phone calls not for me
11:26:08 <MrMobodies> I seem to perform and think better in the night
11:28:26 <rust_collector> doing nerdy things, yeah, maybe
11:29:19 <MrMobodies> There was one time when I working at night in a building firm rearranging the rooms and doing putting up some more network cables
11:29:42 <MrMobodies> There was a tv screen with a computer for the insurance stuff but I set it to show CCTV
11:30:01 <MrMobodies> I saw a light and thought some folks where trying to break in the back
11:30:12 <MrMobodies> the police turned up with dogs
11:30:22 <MrMobodies> and it turns out they were smoking drugs
11:30:35 <MrMobodies> nerdy things
11:30:41 <MrMobodies> in Essex
11:30:58 <rust_collector> sounds like a very weird dream, police dogs smoking drugs
11:31:13 <rust_collector> that is now they train them
11:31:20 <rust_collector> just saying
11:31:24 <MrMobodies> yes.. it takes one to know one
11:31:32 <MrMobodies> for the dogs I mean
11:31:53 <MrMobodies> feed them drugs and they recognise it
11:32:53 <rust_collector> here boy, have a K of this
11:42:00 <rust_collector> crap. they have put up a "bad weather warning" in the area I am going today. I hope I can get thru that before the locals wake up
11:42:43 <MrMobodies> It keeps on going from cold to warm.
11:42:58 <rust_collector> yeah, yo-yo weather
11:44:03 <rust_collector> I am going down south, which is nice, because I can listen to the danish radio stations
11:44:44 <MrMobodies> I don't like the radio stations in the UK.
11:45:13 <coppice_> I like Radios 3, 4 and 4.5
11:45:15 <rust_collector> We turned off the fm stuff earlyier this year, so we only have a few local stations, unless you have a dab+ radio
11:45:22 <MrMobodies> They play some good old stuff sometimes but then it takes one "I doj't know how they can classify it as music.
11:45:23 <MrMobodies> oh
11:45:39 <rust_collector> I usually listen to the world service
11:46:42 <rust_collector> it is very...random? some days they have a lot of interesting stuff, some days they just keep gnawing on about the same non-issue
11:47:11 <MrMobodies> Some years back I like the absolute 80's but sometimes I hear repeats
11:47:36 <coppice_> The UK is not in a position to turn off the FM stations. There is still too much reliance on them
11:47:52 <MrMobodies> Yes I noticed
11:47:56 <rust_collector> so it was up here, but that did not stop them
11:48:27 <rust_collector> and they sold the transmitters and systems to africa, I think it was, so it is not like we can just turn it back on
11:48:29 <MrMobodies> They wanted to phase it out but
11:48:41 <coppice_> lots of 5 year old cars still didn't have DAB radios
11:49:02 <rust_collector> we still get our trucks without
11:49:38 <coppice_> even if you have a DAB radio in a car, you rely on FM filling in coverage gaps
11:49:53 <rust_collector> well, volvo has dab now, but then you have to drive a volvo, and I am not sure if it is worth it
11:50:21 <coppice_> all new cars in the UK seem to have DAB
11:51:19 <MrMobodies> I remember when i was 10
11:51:34 <MrMobodies> I was given by a school an old record desk with a tape a tuner
11:51:54 <MrMobodies> now on the tuner when adjusting it low
11:51:59 <MrMobodies> I could here the police
11:52:21 <MrMobodies> they seem to talk a lot on certain bands
11:52:38 <MrMobodies> It did AM/FM and nother one I cant remember
11:53:10 <rust_collector> that is also a thing. the police and the other emergency services got a new communication system a year or two ago, and it sucks, lol
11:54:43 <rust_collector> I have tried to make a little fm transmitter, so I can have that running from internet on the computer out in the garage, so I can use my old radios, but arrrgh, it is tricky (for me)
11:55:08 <rust_collector> I made 3 of them, and one sort of almost works
11:55:27 <MrMobodies> Oh broadcast audio from sound card to fm transmitter to radios
11:56:02 <rust_collector> but, when I put them in a box, and started to mess with someting else, I remembered that the radio I used to test them, maybe was not great
11:56:11 <ThunderSqueak> o.o//
11:56:30 * ThunderSqueak ran to the store and got nomnoms
11:56:34 <rust_collector> hey-o
11:56:49 <ThunderSqueak> hi there rust_collector
11:56:56 <ThunderSqueak> might I ask your age? I am curious
11:56:58 <ThunderSqueak> :)
11:57:20 <rust_collector> uuh. I am a -79 so... 38? 39?
11:58:07 <rust_collector> 38?
11:58:50 <ThunderSqueak> depending when you were born
11:58:55 <ThunderSqueak> XD
11:59:01 <ThunderSqueak> sure not 39 ?
11:59:02 <ThunderSqueak> :>
11:59:26 <ThunderSqueak> I was just curious, going to be 41 soon :/
11:59:35 <rust_collector> may 2nd, lol
12:00:02 * ThunderSqueak was born in 78
12:00:26 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
12:00:31 <MrMobodies> I am 34
12:00:54 <rust_collector> WEll, I am going to work. it is 2 over here
12:01:16 <rust_collector> have fun etc.etc.
12:01:20 * ThunderSqueak notes it is 4pm here
12:01:30 <ThunderSqueak> have fun at work
12:01:39 <MrMobodies> oh work
12:01:53 <MrMobodies> 2pm?
12:01:58 <rust_collector> am
12:02:12 <ThunderSqueak> just got called by a friend who I have been trying to get ahold of since christmas :/
12:02:22 <ThunderSqueak> turns out she is in the mayo clinic, almost died
12:03:15 <coppice_> too much mayo will kill you
12:03:18 <rust_collector> yeah, a good christmas
12:03:39 <ThunderSqueak> coppice_, apparently so will large tumors
12:04:07 <rust_collector> or hungry bears
12:04:10 <coppice_> there are more things that will kill you than will keep you alive
12:04:16 <ThunderSqueak> only if your a UPS guy
12:04:29 <ThunderSqueak> delivering packages to my door
12:04:36 <MrMobodies> I eat lots of mayo
12:04:37 <rust_collector> nah, regular postal guy here
12:04:41 <MrMobodies> I better be caregul
12:04:59 <ThunderSqueak> I just purchased a new jar of mayo
12:05:07 <MrMobodies> nice with eggs
12:05:40 <ThunderSqueak> which is ironic because it is made of egg
12:05:42 <rust_collector> nothing like eggs on egg
12:06:12 <ThunderSqueak> well, egg, lemon juice, wine vinegar, mustard, salt, and a touch of canola oil
12:06:21 <MrMobodies> I like lemon with it
12:06:54 <coppice_> that's fake mayo. the real stuff uses peanut oil
12:07:24 <ThunderSqueak> meh, just what I use to make it
12:07:35 <ThunderSqueak> when I make homemade mayo
12:38:58 <MrMobodies> My broadband is terrible at the moment
12:39:00 <MrMobodies> for both lines
12:39:20 <coppice_> My broadband is terrible at any moment
12:39:26 <MrMobodies> I tether my phone up to the router it is seems to be working faster
12:39:33 <MrMobodies> and I only get 2 bars in here
12:39:58 <coppice_> well, at least you can get drunk and take your mind off things
12:40:06 <MrMobodies> Oh yes
12:41:24 <MrMobodies> I have three screens in front of me
12:41:33 <MrMobodies> All the same sizes
12:41:50 <MrMobodies> One, for video, the middle the browsing and doing stuff and the third one, terminal sessions
12:42:04 <MrMobodies> Nice when I do many things at the same time
13:43:02 <DHess_US> When I dropped AT&T U-Verse, I got *better* performance using a VPN tunnel half way across the US through a hotel's open WiFi like a mile away with a directional AP.
13:43:41 <DHess_US> Faster, fewer dropped packets, and lower latency. WTF?
13:44:04 <DHess_US> Oh, and IPv6 worked because AT&T was deliberately blocking it.
13:46:26 <DHess_US> hehe. When I first tested the VPN tunnel, it was faster through AT&T's U-Verse than U-Verse was without it.
13:48:40 <DHess_US> I suspect AT&T was blackhole routing all traffic through a central location for CALEA but did not bother for encrypted traffic which could not be monitored anyway and that is why they were blockign IPv6.
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16:23:29 <Halcyon> *yawn*
16:23:30 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
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17:21:48 <Halcyon> It has felt like this year has gone by so quick
17:21:56 <Halcyon> 6.5 hours until 2019
17:36:37 <steve30> o/
17:36:50 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
17:40:10 * steve30 coffees
17:40:19 <Halcyon> YAY!
17:58:27 <steve30> Halcyon, I uploaded a video you might like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjVXbG2-Uc
17:58:39 <Halcyon> *click*
17:59:15 <Halcyon> Hahah 6 years to shoot and edit :P
18:00:07 <Halcyon> They did it on a road that was still open to traffic?
18:00:59 <steve30> One side was closed
18:01:29 <Halcyon> You need to come to Sydney when we have our Mardi Gras on. It's an experience
18:01:44 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__T2-TDcVo
18:02:41 <Halcyon> Oh that's right, Cher was at this years one
18:09:19 <steve30> That looks big and expensive
18:09:39 <Halcyon> Yeh it's one of the biggest events in Sydney during the year
18:10:31 <Halcyon> Over 600,000 people attended this year
18:28:29 <steve30> I could do with another coffee
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18:53:35 <steve30> are you having a new year celebration Halcyon?
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19:03:16 <Ahmed> Hi
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19:07:52 <Halcyon> Steve: No not really, I'm on-call for work
19:07:57 <Halcyon> So no drinking or partying for me
19:08:08 <Halcyon> My partner has gone out to watch the fireworks with his family
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19:16:29 <Halcyon> You guys will be able to get a great view of the fireworks here: https://webcamsydney.com/
19:16:39 <Halcyon> Although it looks like the weather isn't real nice
19:29:12 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
19:29:19 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 :)
19:29:27 * Halcyon fondles
19:31:01 <steve30> When chinese ebay sellers sell dentistry tools/accessories, are they aimed at DIY or professionals?
19:32:50 <Halcyon> Dentistry tools are great for very fine circuit board work
19:33:02 <Halcyon> I wouldn't stick Chinese crap in my mouth though
19:58:00 <rust_collector> hey geeks and nerds
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19:59:18 <Halcyon> Howdy
19:59:56 <rust_collector> is anything fun happening?
20:00:27 <Halcyon> Not really, just watching the rain
20:00:44 <rust_collector> exciting
20:00:54 <rust_collector> I just got home from work.
20:01:24 <rust_collector> so... now I have to figure out if I want to go back to sleep, or....not
20:01:58 <rust_collector> it is 10 in the morning here
20:03:54 <Halcyon> You could watch the new years fireworks: https://captiveye-kirribilli.qnetau.com/stream_scaling/public/default_iframe_n.asp
20:04:11 <Halcyon> Still a few hours for the big one, but the smaller display is in under an hour
20:04:32 <rust_collector> Sorry - you're seeing this page because you have come to
20:04:32 <rust_collector> this camera via a direct URL, or via a link
20:04:33 <rust_collector> that has not been authorised.
20:04:42 <Halcyon> Weird
20:04:46 <Halcyon> Try webcamsydney.com
20:06:28 <rust_collector> that works, but not much fireworks...
20:06:46 <Halcyon> Not yet. The small display + light show starts at 2100
20:06:52 <Halcyon> The main ones are obviously at midnight
20:07:04 <rust_collector> But, to me, fireworks are boring if you don't feel the air getting pounded out of you
20:07:13 <Halcyon> People have been camping out there for a few days to get a front row seat
20:07:20 <rust_collector> hah
20:08:24 <Halcyon> It's annoying though that the stream stops after 3 minutes, so I have a plug-in auto refreshing the page after 2.5 minute :)
20:08:47 <rust_collector> hehe, yeah, I just noticed, lol
20:09:32 <rust_collector> I like that bridge to the right. too bad someone splashed paint on it
20:09:48 <Halcyon> The Sydney Harbour Bridge?
20:09:59 <rust_collector> I.... guess, maybe?
20:10:02 <Halcyon> Also that's not paint, it's a projection
20:10:16 <rust_collector> ok, good. make them turn it off
20:10:35 <Halcyon> I suppose they will once stuff starts exploding :P
20:11:48 <rust_collector> I like exploding things
20:11:50 <Halcyon> All those people are going to get wet in about 30 minutes
20:11:54 <Halcyon> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR713.loop.shtml#skip
20:13:11 <rust_collector> perfection
20:25:01 <rust_collector> arrrgh, one of my favourite youtube people has posted a 1/2 hour video... do I watch it now, or go to bed
20:25:37 <Halcyon> Do both ?
20:25:57 <rust_collector> yeah, then I can..uuh
20:26:23 <Halcyon> ?
20:26:46 <rust_collector> yes...
20:26:47 <rust_collector> ???
20:27:16 <rust_collector> then I can watch it again, when I am just bored and waiting for things to go BOOM!
20:27:59 <Halcyon> I don't know what that long thing in the water is... I'm guessing it's a barge they will launch fireworks off?
20:28:57 <rust_collector> Looks like it could be
20:30:46 <Halcyon> I would also like to know how they project those images onto the bridge... laser projector perhaps?
20:31:16 <rust_collector> I know almost nothing about that.
20:31:32 <Halcyon> The source of the light is not obvious
20:32:19 <steve30> I've ordered some electronics :)
20:32:27 <Halcyon> What did you get?
20:32:52 <steve30> Li-Ion protection boards and connectors
20:33:00 <rust_collector> YAAY!
20:33:04 <rust_collector> ?
20:33:08 <Halcyon> What are you building ?
20:34:22 <rust_collector> if he is anything like me, he will put them in the window, and go do something else for a few months
20:35:41 <steve30> A small battery pack to power a light
20:35:51 <Halcyon> For your bike?
20:38:28 <T3sl4> \o/ my image encoder and decoder works https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/ActiveLoadLCD6.jpg
20:38:37 <rust_collector> Wife has an electric bike. I sort of want to try it, but otoh, I am going to stay far away from it.
20:38:58 <T3sl4> original: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/ActiveLoad_ImageTest.png obviously, the camera aliased the shit out of the pixels, but other than that, it's correct :P
20:39:19 <rust_collector> uhm, yes
20:39:27 <Halcyon> Awesome T3sl4
20:39:29 <rust_collector> but... what is happening there?
20:39:44 <T3sl4> just drawing the image to the LCD
20:39:48 <Halcyon> What is it you are working on ?
20:40:01 <T3sl4> electronic programmable load, https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/ActiveLoad2.jpg
20:40:13 <Halcyon> Will we be able to buy them?
20:40:33 <T3sl4> make me an offer :P
20:40:46 <Halcyon> Do you accept sexual favours?
20:41:06 <T3sl4> yes. my specific fetish is US dollars
20:41:15 <rust_collector> kinky
20:41:21 <Halcyon> I shall stuff them in your underwear :P
20:43:47 <rust_collector> will you add a slot in the left side, to use as a toaster?
20:44:10 <Halcyon> Or a heatsink to keep coffee warm
20:46:26 <rust_collector> I think it is best if I go into hibernation for a while. Have fun
20:46:51 <steve30> Halcyon, yes
20:47:04 <Halcyon> :)
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20:58:09 <Halcyon> YAY Fireworks
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21:24:47 * steve31 waves from the garage
21:25:42 <BurtyB> mornin
21:26:23 * T3sl4 spins some Garage Inc for steve3
22:03:51 <T3sl4> dayum: https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/ab5k9a/i_dont_care_if_he_is_dead_put_him_on_the_phone/
22:04:35 <Halcyon> Fuck people are stupid
22:09:25 <steve31> lol
22:09:37 <steve31> I'm glad he took the ashes to them :)
23:10:11 <steve31> i really need to get a new cable for this derailer
23:10:41 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
23:10:55 <Ampera> It's me, from last year.
23:14:23 <T3sl4> https://github.com/T3sl4co1l/st7735_gfx
23:14:55 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiwA0JrGfjA
23:15:23 <Ampera> footoowama
23:23:19 <steve31> i just made a quick video to demonstrate my bikes gearing dodgyness
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23:37:05 <mrpackethead> @T3s1aC01l, you get points
23:37:36 * T3sl4 nod
23:43:38 <mrpackethead> 100Resistors in ||, is in deed a 'correct' answer. Silly me did not specify other constraints.
23:48:33 <Ampera> resistors in or?
23:48:37 <Ampera> (I know it's parallel)
23:55:59 <T3sl4> very good &&pera
23:58:17 <mrpackethead> why did i know that was going to happen
23:58:46 <T3sl4> hey, you're the one whose head is full of packets
23:59:14 <Ampera> gotta clean your ears, let all the bytes fall out
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