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00:59:23 <steve30> o/
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09:34:49 <Halcyon> Morning all
09:39:54 <IoTPanic> Evening
09:40:13 <rust_collector> almost night
09:40:51 <IoTPanic> Yep, what tz rust?
09:41:07 <rust_collector> eeh, +1, I think
09:41:45 <rust_collector> yep, it is
09:44:35 <IoTPanic> Ah
09:45:05 <IoTPanic> UTC-5
09:45:18 <rust_collector> that is just cheating
09:45:29 <IoTPanic> East most side, I cannot be further east
09:45:36 <IoTPanic> I see the sun first in America
09:46:21 <Halcyon> I see tomorrow first, well almost :)
09:47:13 * IoTPanic throws snowball
09:47:54 <IoTPanic> Been raining, snowball would hurt
09:48:16 * rust_collector makes flames fall from the sky
09:48:34 <IoTPanic> Rust is god I guess. Ill fetch the virgins
09:48:43 <rust_collector> I think that is pretty interesting, because they are hot, so they should go up, no?
09:49:03 <rust_collector> hah, perfect timing
09:49:03 * IoTPanic goes to D&D and holds several pimply nerds hostage.
09:49:05 <IoTPanic> Oh...
09:49:29 <IoTPanic> And no
09:49:46 <IoTPanic> Means they're icy and very heavy
09:50:54 <IoTPanic> Wdym?
09:50:55 <rust_collector> you are still talking about the virgins, right?
09:51:29 <IoTPanic> Im all confused. I spent a day with my family and my brain is mush and Im playing loud music to try to revive myself
09:52:01 <rust_collector> music is not loud? whay are you playing?
09:52:05 <rust_collector> what
09:52:18 <IoTPanic> I said Hi to my stepmother and if looks could kill, I would be through earths mantle
09:52:33 <rust_collector> good times
09:52:42 <IoTPanic> I said "Hi Kelly, hope youre doing well"
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09:53:12 <Halcyon> You don't get along with her?
09:53:30 <IoTPanic> And Im playing The Offsprings. And no. She just hates me.
09:53:45 <Halcyon> I don't understand why some people put so much time and effort hating others
09:53:53 <Halcyon> They must be really miserable people
09:54:03 <IoTPanic> I know I wasent the best kid, but this woman legitimately had it out for me. I have the perfect example
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09:54:08 <rust_collector> they need a hobby... might as well do something you are good at
09:54:13 <Halcyon> Morning Tim
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09:55:13 <IoTPanic> One day, after I went to bed, my step mother rearranged all the dishes then cooked. I woke up, say a dishwasher full of clean dishes, and saw dishes out of order in the cabneits.
09:55:28 <IoTPanic> I thought to myself, jee, my step sister must have done dishes recently
09:56:43 <IoTPanic> So before she woke up, I fixed everything, put the dishes away, and then made breakfast for everyone that she didnt like. So when she woke up, Im the worst person ever because I put everything back the way it was (She and my dad have a LOT of dishes) then made a mess in the kitchen
09:57:17 <IoTPanic> So its just stuff like that. We really dont understand each other and she hates me for it
09:57:18 <Halcyon> Whose house was it?
09:57:26 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8CqfpGwzw
09:57:53 <IoTPanic> My fathers
09:58:02 <Halcyon> Ah fair enough
09:58:11 <IoTPanic> Yep
09:58:11 <Halcyon> Yeh some people are just bitter
09:58:17 <rust_collector> oh well, some people just are not compatible.
09:58:20 <Halcyon> They look for any excuse to have a go at people
09:59:13 <IoTPanic> She makes being with my own family harder than it has to be. Because she looked at me liked that I didnt ask my step sister how she was doing and hoped her tumor turned out ok
09:59:36 <IoTPanic> turns**
10:06:58 <IoTPanic> Whatever, anyways. Did anyone do anything cool today?
10:07:18 <Halcyon> I'm about to go out shopping, so some last minute grocery shopping for Christmas
10:08:00 <rust_collector> nope. I replaced a perfectly good starter motor on a bmw e38, for no reason, and drained the oil on a chrysler auto box
10:08:35 <IoTPanic> Nice, and nice.
10:08:46 <rust_collector> but not ecactly cool
10:08:52 <IoTPanic> Obviously rust, your thing cooler
10:09:02 <IoTPanic> No one is disagreeing
10:09:26 <IoTPanic> But its nice Halcyons gonna go do that too.
10:09:40 <IoTPanic> Dont take it personnely XD
10:10:02 <Halcyon> :)
10:11:33 <Halcyon> I'll be happy once Christmas is over, it's just a lot of fuss
10:12:03 <rust_collector> I found a cool old store, for all kinds of things. I went there to get some bolts, which I got in a nice brown paper bag, but the guy had everything. chainsaw, yep, blender, yep. I thought that kind of place was no longer a thing
10:12:31 <Halcyon> We have a hardware store like that where I live
10:12:41 <Halcyon> Run by some old Austrian (not Australian) guy
10:13:29 <rust_collector> you just get to the counter, and the guy runs around picking whatever you ask for off random shelves. I have only seen that in old movies
10:14:38 <rust_collector> but I like it, I have to go there more
10:29:56 <steve30> hi
10:30:16 <rust_collector> hello
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10:40:01 <MrMobodies> I am here, I just finished for the night on my desk in the attic.
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10:41:34 <MrMobodies> I got the side baskets, the 2x 10 way distribution sockets that span across the two desks and I am hoping to finish in a couple of days.
10:44:06 <rust_collector> if the oldest kid decides to be a bartender in ibiza, I think I will build a desk in his room
10:48:40 <MrMobodies> After Christmas I am going to draw plans, go to Bartons down the road, get them to cut the wood, buy loads of brackets and build a side unit so I can put together using brackets. I calculate £10 for brackets £30 for wood at the most.
10:49:12 <MrMobodies> Oops pine wood.
10:49:34 <coppice> is the wood pining for its forest home?
10:49:58 <MrMobodies> Yes, the attic where I live.
10:50:04 <MrMobodies> It's all wooden up there.
10:50:25 <T3sl4> gonna use oil based paint
10:50:27 <rust_collector> pine is an antisocial tree, they hate other trees, and likes going to the city
10:50:51 <rust_collector> I always use oil based paint indoors
10:51:03 <MrMobodies> Got lots of it in my workshop here. It doesn't get on with the locals that visit me.
10:51:13 <MrMobodies> I mean the shelving.
10:51:27 <coppice> T3sl4: bloody Americans just can't get off the oil consumption habit
10:51:58 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM5-xFenaZI
10:52:22 <rust_collector> oil paint is better in the house, imo. if you need paint.
10:53:48 <rust_collector> you get a lot of... uhm, vapor, or gassing? for a short time, if you use water based, you get less, but for much longer time
10:54:34 <T3sl4> water based varnish is just about useless
10:54:36 <MrMobodies> I like oil paintings. They''re nice over a distance.
10:54:44 <MrMobodies> ooh sorry varnish
10:55:03 <T3sl4> paint, latex is fantastic
10:56:13 <coppice> yeah, any marks and you have a build in rubber to erase them
10:56:14 <rust_collector> rubber paint...
10:58:00 <MrMobodies> Does rubber paint become sticky after a while?
10:58:23 <steve30> I really should paint my desk some time
10:58:57 <MrMobodies> I should get a surface matt to cover both desks.
10:59:19 <MrMobodies> They are exactly the same width and length but different shades of wood.
10:59:34 <MrMobodies> They are joined with a sqaured middle piece
11:02:11 <rust_collector> different colors do not matter, if you just cover them in random junk and "projects"
11:02:19 <MrMobodies> One came out of Woolworths in 2009. It was a managers desk, 1600x for £40, and the other, an Ikea desk which was given to me with the square piece and they fit.
11:02:27 <MrMobodies> Yes
11:02:35 <MrMobodies> it has got lots of scatches on them
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11:03:35 <coppice> If it came from Woolworths it a historic artefact. Take care of it.
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11:04:30 <MrMobodies> Woolworths desk 160x80cm, Ikea side peace 80x80cm, Ikea desk 160cmx80 and the end is curved.
11:04:37 <MrMobodies> Oh I am taking care of it.
11:04:45 <MrMobodies> I did drill some holes to get the wires through.
11:04:55 <MrMobodies> My stuff use to overheat because of the back board.
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11:05:12 <MrMobodies> It has got three shelves in there now.
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11:06:01 <MrMobodies> The top one for my power packs, the middle one for hard drives and the bottom as a small wiring tray.
11:06:14 <MrMobodies> Plugs are at the back of the board.
11:06:20 <MrMobodies> with a tray underneath
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13:06:23 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/6LSXeVO
13:10:29 <coppice> little Miss Muffet needs to chill
13:11:26 <T3sl4> little miss muffet thinks you can gofuckit
13:15:04 <coppice> these people and their blatant arachnophobia sicken me
13:16:24 <DHess_US> I learned a completely differnet versions of those nursery rhymes.
13:16:48 <T3sl4> jack and jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water; jack stabbed jill, enjoyed the thrill, and the rest of the town he did slaughter
13:16:55 <DHess_US> Mary Mary quite contrary how does your garden grow? With tinkle bells and cockle shells and one goddamn weed right in the middle.
13:17:02 <T3sl4> was that a version you heard?
13:17:23 <DHess_US> No, not thatone.
13:18:25 <coppice> Mary had a little lamb, the midwife fainted.
13:18:50 <T3sl4> ZEUS!!!
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14:57:50 <Ampera> Tezzers, yeah Idk what it's about, but it's some pretty energetic shit
14:57:56 <Ampera> https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1076575869185839104
15:01:09 <DHess_US> Those crazy French.
15:02:02 <gremlinz> epic
15:02:20 <DHess_US> They are worse than Canadians when they lose a hockey game.
15:03:07 <DHess_US> http://i.imgur.com/7shie.jpg
15:03:23 <coppice> The French like a good riot for Christmas. The Christmas before wifey and I were married we were supposed to spend the week before Christmas in Paris, and the whole bloody country shut down with strikes and unrest
15:03:47 <Ampera> where the fuck was this during WW2?
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15:24:50 <Halcyon> Christmas food shopping all done
15:25:36 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon.
15:25:41 <Halcyon> Heya
15:26:01 <Ampera> Paris is still on fire, and people on Twitter are currently upset over two comedians saying the n-word over 6 years ago.
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15:31:41 <IoTPanic> #FakeNews
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15:47:04 <coppice> Ampera: I know people's priorities tend to be screwed up, but I wouldn't conflate those two activities. What's happening in Paris has no bearing on the lives of Americans
15:48:48 <DHess_US> You just had to ask that Ampera.
15:49:40 <DHess_US> https://img.pr0gramm.com/2018/12/22/c67c6c5344bb296b.jpg
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15:54:48 <IoTPanic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCodnn0HOyI If anyone wants to see a 56 core 224 thread ARM server and get their nerd boner on
15:57:28 <IoTPanic> I didn't know that ARM processors could have four threads per core which apparently scales really well in web hosting and database activities
16:00:18 <DHess_US> "Scales really well" is code for "has terrible single thread and memory performance".
16:01:00 <coppice> "Scales really well" sounds like a salmon that's easy to prepare for the table
16:02:01 <coppice> I don't think ARM has developed any multithreaded cores. Is that chip using a core which Cavium developed themselves?
16:02:06 <IoTPanic> I guess to both. Hey, if PHP runs faster for less money on ARM im okay with checking it out because its really cool even though I wouldnt use it.
16:02:47 <IoTPanic> Apache engines apparently run better than x86 in very specific and well optimized instances
16:02:58 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law
16:04:07 <DHess_US> The only place it makes sense is for applicaitons which are trivial to parallelize.
16:04:43 <IoTPanic> Which... it is?
16:04:50 <IoTPanic> PHP is not trivial?
16:04:54 <DHess_US> It's like that recent list of processor performance graphs which who ARM beating x87 on IPS/MHz. Well, no shit.
16:05:11 <DHess_US> PHP is trivial when you can dispatch separate operations.
16:05:20 <DHess_US> That's just load balancing.
16:05:24 <coppice> DHess_US: Amdahl's law isn't very relevant to many of these web serving loads, as they have more independent threads of activity than any currently proposed bundle of small weak cores are likely to have
16:05:39 <IoTPanic> Well I dont see how you're disagreeing with me.... Are you saying its not cool anyways?
16:06:13 <DHess_US> coppice, I agree. But when someone lists "scales well", what they really mean is "terrible at single threaded tasks" which related to Amdahl's law.
16:06:49 <IoTPanic> I was just sharing something neat I found. And okay, I get your point, I will stop quoting people from YouTube
16:06:56 <IoTPanic> Jesus
16:06:56 <DHess_US> You want a more real world test? Do a Linux multithreaded kernal compile on it.
16:07:11 <IoTPanic> Thats not more real
16:07:15 <IoTPanic> Its just a diffrent task
16:07:22 <IoTPanic> Im not saying it will be faster
16:07:54 <coppice> DHess_US: no processor design does everything well.
16:07:57 <IoTPanic> Im saying that some IT pros find that when a few million people hit certain PHP scripts, its better to have this cool ARM box
16:08:24 <IoTPanic> Im not saying its faster
16:08:42 <IoTPanic> Im not saying it can compile linux faster
16:08:46 <IoTPanic> Is it not cool?
16:09:04 <coppice> Not cool, but quite interesting
16:09:19 <IoTPanic> Whatever your word selection is, not something you see every day
16:09:54 <IoTPanic> Might enjoy clicking the link like I have. idfk
16:10:31 <DHess_US> Not surprisingly, RWT has a discussion which just started about ARM and SMT. https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=182399&curpostid=182399
16:12:06 <IoTPanic> I mean, if you go through the thread it sounds like in very small use cases
16:15:14 <IoTPanic> Windows is trying to get back onto arm again
16:15:23 <IoTPanic> Gonna go as well as last time
16:15:53 <DHess_US> Macrosoft can bring some of that Windows 10 success to the ARM world.
16:16:47 <IoTPanic> I wish I could return my pro key for how much business downtime ive experienced since my boss made me switch from Linux
16:17:21 <DHess_US> I'm still missing some key capabilities on my Windows 10 test system. But I got it to stop crashing.
16:18:13 <IoTPanic> We operated linux for one year, and windows 10 for one year. We had one day of downtime using.... I believe I was running Ubuntu like a scrub. Switched to Windows and I have had well over a week.
16:19:04 <DHess_US> My FreeBSD router on PC hardware has failed once in 10+ years ... when the ice machine upstairs sprung a leak and dropped water into the chassis.
16:20:03 <IoTPanic> There you go, I favorite red hat variants, but I really wanna try FreeBSD
16:20:15 <IoTPanic> Fedora is my favorite
16:20:23 <IoTPanic> For personnel use
16:21:07 <DHess_US> After I finish my Windows 10 test system, I'm going to start up a Gentoo test system.
16:21:42 <IoTPanic> There you go. Why do you have a Windows 10 test system? I can tell you its garbage
16:21:52 <IoTPanic> Want my stability report? XD
16:24:36 <Halcyon> Gah Windows 10 *hiss*
16:25:30 * IoTPanic high fives Halcyon for that Red Hat goodness
16:25:36 <Halcyon> :)
16:26:56 <IoTPanic> Anyways, I gotta work tomorrow, night all
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19:55:57 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, are you awake
19:56:11 <T3sl4> buh
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19:56:50 <mrpackethead> thanks for your reply about the transformer.
19:57:17 <T3sl4> cheers :)
19:58:27 <mrpackethead> am i off track in assuming that the magnetic flux of each side cancels each other out
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20:14:31 <T3sl4> you are correct
20:14:55 <T3sl4> as i said, i have little to say but laugh at the one reply
20:15:05 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 :D
20:15:14 <T3sl4> but hey, such is the free advice you'll get out there
20:15:28 * T3sl4 nudges mrpackethead's wallet, and Halcyon's bum
20:15:42 <Halcyon> lol
20:15:44 <Halcyon> Random
20:16:05 <T3sl4> in one fluid motion no less; i'm skilled like that
20:16:07 <mrpackethead> I am correct in assuming i'm off track
20:16:34 <T3sl4> no, it cancels
20:16:45 <mrpackethead> thats what i thought.
20:16:55 <mrpackethead> there was as reason i went to school.
20:17:26 <mrpackethead> someone was spurting out a concept without reading
20:18:04 <mrpackethead> they are cheap, i think i'll just lab-test this out and see what happens.
20:18:34 <mrpackethead> in the mean time have asked TDK if they are intending on making a bigger one for 802.3bt
20:19:09 <T3sl4> no answer?
20:19:22 <T3sl4> i mean, give it a few weeks ofc
20:21:07 <mrpackethead> yeah, only mailed them yesterfday
20:21:10 <mrpackethead> and it is christmas.
20:24:14 <T3sl4> btw the pass/fail thing would be because of adding extra transformers in the chain; you didn't mention if this was an inline thing or an endpoint, and i dont remember how much margin there is for extra transformers in the path
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20:33:44 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, at this point my prime motivation is for an inline.
20:34:00 <mrpackethead> wanting to do a 802.3bt midspan
20:34:07 <T3sl4> ah, all the more reason then
20:34:29 <mrpackethead> it works nicely with 'regular' sized transformers
20:34:31 <T3sl4> two transformers in parallel would probably be a killer, since thats 4 total
20:35:03 <mrpackethead> i'm not sure i want to start building ethernet switches.
20:36:19 <mrpackethead> the real issue is space.
20:36:49 <mrpackethead> using 'regular' transformers means my port density drops dramatically
20:43:16 <mrpackethead> I think i'll just build a little test pcb and see how it goes.
20:45:38 <T3sl4> remember to test with lots of packet lengths and patterns, 10 and 100, and maximum cable length
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21:03:06 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, need to test with varying cable length as well
21:03:22 <T3sl4> sure
21:18:02 <Ampera> Dear god, it's Christmas tomorrow/day after.
21:18:15 <Halcyon> Yep
21:18:43 <Halcyon> Our family celebrates Euro Christmas on Christmas Eve
21:18:44 <Ampera> I just finished watching Techmoan's christmas special.
21:18:52 <Ampera> Euro Christmas?
21:19:14 <Halcyon> Yeh Scandinavians have Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve and open presents then
21:19:18 <Halcyon> Christmas day is for sleeping in
21:19:58 <Ampera> Not here, we have two Christmas dinners I guess, one on eve and one on day.
21:20:05 <Ampera> Presents are opened Christmas morning.
21:20:41 <Halcyon> We are doing a Christmas dinner/lunch on Christmas day for the partner's family
21:21:13 <Ampera> I had to wrap two box shaped presents.
21:21:23 <Ampera> On a bed, with nothing but a roll of tape and a stanley knife.
21:22:12 <Halcyon> What's wrong with that ?
21:22:31 <Ampera> Have you ever tried to cut anything that's not a box with a stanley knife?
21:22:53 <Ampera> Well, more to the point, wrapping paper
21:22:54 <Halcyon> Sure
21:23:06 <Halcyon> As long as its sharp, never had a drama
21:23:11 <Ampera> Anyways, everybody's getting computer keyboards this year.
21:23:15 <Halcyon> \o/
21:23:21 <Ampera> maybe I should add mine is half way dull.
21:23:39 <Halcyon> Oh then I would expect the paper to shred and rip
21:23:49 <Ampera> Anyways, all of them were being organized through me, so at one point I had 4 mechanical keyboards in my room.
21:24:08 <Ampera> Ever so slightly, but I think it was the bed that was the bigger problem, the paper kept trying to bend in ways I didn't want it to.
21:24:17 <Halcyon> Stupid paper
21:24:36 <Ampera> you calling my paper stupid?
21:25:33 <Halcyon> Misbehaving is probably more accurate
21:25:47 <Ampera> you calling my paper ill-behaved?
21:27:21 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNV9gv0NmzU This is a really nice live performance.
21:28:24 * T3sl4 hocks a bowl of chili at Ampera
21:29:29 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://gyazo.com/e46f6a4123e48e4935194df9f83df616
21:32:57 <T3sl4> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hock
21:33:13 <T3sl4> is it spelled hawk? i don't really care
21:33:20 <Ampera> (c)huck
21:33:46 * Ampera pours a bowl of warmed up potato mash in T3sl4's lap
21:33:55 <Halcyon> Mmmm ham hock
21:34:01 * Halcyon grabs onto T3sl4's hock
21:34:15 * T3sl4 wishes he could autofellatio to eat said mash
21:35:47 <T3sl4> this chili is rather bland now :/
21:36:12 <T3sl4> i've fully acclimated to the habaneros, and even a generous squirt of sriracha didn't help much
21:37:47 <T3sl4> Ampera: good opening, i've seen karaoke renditions of that song not quite as good as theirs
21:38:30 <Ampera> My point is that the singing sounds nice, and the instrumentation is well performed.
21:38:50 <T3sl4> i'm not disagreeing ;)
21:38:56 <Ampera> While technological assistance is not ruled, in my mind the true mark of a good band is one that sounds just as good live as they do in the studio.
21:40:31 <T3sl4> apparently grateful dead's sound guy was very serious about that
21:41:42 <T3sl4> most very large performances are, or i would hope are, as serious about that
21:42:34 <T3sl4> in my genre, iron maiden comes to mind, not only do they sound as good in concert (well, judging by recordings anyway, i have yet to see them in person) but they sound almost as good as they did 30 frikkin years ago
21:43:21 <T3sl4> on the other hand, i've seen megadeth in concert, and i don't know if it was the venue or what, but it was terrible, high/low balance was all off, distorted?
21:46:58 <Ampera> I think my definition of a good singer/group is one that could perform entertaining doo-wop right infront of you, without any tech helping them.
21:47:39 <T3sl4> it's not going to be entertaining beyond the first about 50 people, which would be fine in a small bar venue but obviously impractical in a stadium
21:47:53 <T3sl4> without equipment, that is
21:48:10 <Ampera> No, my point is in a live performance, you don't know if they are cheating.
21:48:29 <Ampera> I'd say if they could hypothetically do that infront of me, I would consider them to be good singers.
21:48:39 <T3sl4> nice thing about small venues is, there's a certain amount of interaction possible, a tiny charm that can't be offered by large settings
21:48:42 <Ampera> Singing live without any tech is not fuckin easy, it's a damn hard skill.
21:49:36 <T3sl4> oh, of course they're cheating -- there's almost always a backing or melody or something track there; the worst don't even try and just lip sync it
21:50:08 <T3sl4> and yeah, they do that because, guess what, it's easier that way ;)
21:50:30 <Ampera> Well if there's an instrumental backing, I can forgive that, but my point is I like it when they can do that without any of that.
21:50:34 <T3sl4> i can sing, but i can't hit a pitch or key worth a damn without some chords to find where i'm going
21:50:49 <T3sl4> for sure, a capella is an impressive feat
21:50:52 <Ampera> There was a time before autotune or lip syncing was possible or even widely known about/used, and people still managed to sing well.
21:52:43 <T3sl4> also helps to have a sound guy on top of things, e.g. if the band trips over its shit, they hit the stop button on the tape player :P
21:53:14 <Halcyon> Fucking ESXi
21:53:34 <T3sl4> what a horrible acronym, you can't even pronounce it
21:54:03 <Ampera> What pisses me off is they didn't use SEXi, which would be way funnier.
21:54:19 <T3sl4> Sign EXtend (integer)?
21:54:29 <Halcyon> Amp: This is why you unplug shit: https://youtu.be/990aLn39hlo?t=769
21:55:26 <T3sl4> that wasn't very loud
21:55:37 <Halcyon> Not so much the audio
21:55:50 <Halcyon> We were discussing surges and direct lighting strikes earlier today
21:55:59 <T3sl4> meh, it's only ~100kA
21:56:04 <Halcyon> :P
21:56:18 <Ampera> Halcyon, how about you let me break my shit, and you eat yours.
21:56:21 <T3sl4> i can generate that with... hrm, i probably don't have quite enough capacitors, actually
21:56:29 <Halcyon> You can if you like :)
21:56:57 <T3sl4> but hey, i spent the last week offsite at the testing lab, i get to brag
21:57:05 <T3sl4> my design passed with flying colors
21:57:12 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/990aLn39hlo?t=551
21:57:17 <Halcyon> Here is another from the same video
21:57:37 <Halcyon> YAY!
21:57:40 <Ampera> yeah, but this is Australia, lightning doesn't exist in the US.
21:57:44 * Halcyon gropes T3sl4
21:57:51 * T3sl4 ESDs Halcyon
21:57:55 <Ampera> we don't have most of the shit that tries to kill you up here.
21:57:57 <Halcyon> *runs around*
21:58:06 <Halcyon> OK Ampera :)
21:58:07 <T3sl4> Ampera: tornadoes tho
21:58:15 <Halcyon> And Earthquakes
21:58:25 <T3sl4> and tsunamis
21:58:27 <T3sl4> oh wait
21:58:49 <Halcyon> And nutbags with guns ;-)
21:58:59 <Ampera> do you know how you fix that, Halcyon?
21:59:05 <Ampera> mandatory open carry.
21:59:12 <Halcyon> Nope :)
21:59:24 <T3sl4> Ampera: easiest way i can think of is to sell millions of guns to australia
21:59:33 <Ampera> ^
21:59:34 <Halcyon> We don't want them thank you :)
21:59:44 <T3sl4> they can't brag about their gun homicide rates if they don't not have guns anymores
21:59:50 <Ampera> Start training children to shoot at age 8.
21:59:57 <T3sl4> age 6
22:00:06 <Ampera> age 4, but only use a 22
22:00:14 <T3sl4> by age 8 they should know that a wild animal has delicious tastymeats inside it
22:00:33 <Halcyon> Nah fuck it, buy a Large Big Mac Meal, get a firearm free with your coupon
22:00:34 <Halcyon> :D
22:00:51 <Ampera> by age 10 they should be able to fully disassemble every single primary US service rifle and to reassemble it within 4 minutes.
22:00:51 <Halcyon> 'merica
22:00:51 <T3sl4> a happy meal that would bring any true gun lover to climax
22:01:21 <Halcyon> Or they could learn to spell, count and learn the basics of how to live a meaningful life
22:01:37 <Halcyon> In high school I learnt Electronics, Cooking and Hospitality, budgeting, etc...
22:01:47 <T3sl4> boooooooring
22:01:50 <T3sl4> those are girl things
22:01:57 <Halcyon> :P
22:02:03 <T3sl4> are you gay?
22:02:05 <T3sl4> oh.
22:02:09 <Halcyon> *grin*
22:02:20 <Ampera> This is why we have people like Pence in power.
22:02:25 <Ampera> to bring y'all homos down Westinghouse style.
22:02:39 <Halcyon> You guys can keep him
22:02:40 <T3sl4> pray the gay away
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22:02:44 <T3sl4> it's the only solution
22:02:47 <T3sl4> you might even say, final
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22:03:02 <Ampera> Halcyon.
22:03:06 <Halcyon> Yessum>
22:03:07 <Halcyon> ?
22:03:08 <Ampera> 1 2 3 4, I declare a trade war!
22:03:18 * T3sl4 plays Wall against Ampera
22:03:28 <Halcyon> Alright ?
22:03:32 <Ampera> No not wall, steel slats.
22:03:49 <T3sl4> it's more aesthetic that way!
22:04:20 <Ampera> /A E S T H E T I C
22:04:25 <Ampera> /
22:05:19 <Halcyon> I'm going to go lay in bed and watch the Youtubes
22:05:24 <Halcyon> Later guys
22:05:33 <T3sl4> so about trump; he must know that his followers/supporters will believe anything he says, right? can he not simply "fake the moon landings" and "build the wall" with pure propaganda?
22:05:49 <T3sl4> it's not like they'll believe "pictures", from the "media", obvious photoshopped fake news-
22:06:04 * T3sl4 tucks in Halcyon and kisses his forehead
22:50:43 <DHess_US> How much of that is because "media" has a credibility problem?
23:03:35 <rust_collector> 68%
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