// #eevblog — 2018-12-06
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00:09:20 Quit: DogWomble ([email protected]) EOF from client
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00:34:29 <T3sl4> i know, and our president is so representative too
00:35:38 <DHess_US> Doesn't Frontier have a low monthly transfer cap?
00:40:15 <Ampera> Many cable and DSL services do in the US, but I don't believe they do on fiber
00:40:17 <Ampera> let me check
00:43:18 <Ampera> Can't find anything in their T&C as far as data caps go.
00:43:44 <Ampera> Not even for their regular (what I believe is cable) internet
00:43:48 <Ampera> could be DSL
00:45:31 <Ampera> Either way, regardless of what the service is like, the FttP modem would have to catch fire in order to be worse than Comcast.
01:04:48 <coppice> FTTSONLW == Fibre to the socket on the lounge wall
02:52:21 <DHess_US> I'm still waiting for FTTB - Fiber to the Brain
02:54:49 <coppice> Fibre to the digestive tract
02:56:18 <T3sl4> technically it's fiber through the digestive tract
03:01:40 <coppice> you get a pass for that one
03:05:22 <K> gass
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04:22:23 <Ampera> Guys, I'm ashamed of all of you.
04:22:42 <Ampera> FttPenis is all anybody would ever need.
04:24:35 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera with rope
04:25:04 <Ampera> \\o/
04:25:16 <Ampera> * -\
04:26:01 <Ampera> I want a nice big hug around the neck with a good rope.
04:26:34 <T3sl4> fiber to the neck
04:26:49 <coppice> fibre around the neck
04:27:06 <Ampera> Fiber to the Deck
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05:09:08 <Ampera> https://www.spacex.com/webcast rocket launch in 5 minutes
06:36:10 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/Htx1hPe.png
06:36:52 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/jizzjohnson68/status/1032318873004122116
06:38:35 <T3sl4> >My wife said: "Please go to the store and buy a carton of milk and if they have eggs, get six." I came back with 6 cartons of milk She said, "why in the hell did you buy six cartons of milk"
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06:44:03 <steve30> :)
06:45:09 <DHess_US> Approach gate, unlock gate, open gate, through gate, close gate, lock gate.
06:48:31 <mrpackethead> T3sl4, you learned instructions in the wrong school to understand wife.
06:49:18 <T3sl4> that's contradictory
06:49:25 <T3sl4> "understand" and "wife" in the same sentence
06:49:31 <mrpackethead> wife is whats called a 'variable' language, where instructions mean different things but you can never know when. Its very difficult to debug.
06:49:49 <mrpackethead> s/very difficult/impossible
06:51:25 * steve30 suggests having cats instead of wives
06:51:39 <mrpackethead> i have a cat and a dog
06:51:41 <mrpackethead> and a wife
06:51:45 <mrpackethead> and grandchildren
06:51:51 <mrpackethead> ( and grown up children )
06:52:00 <mrpackethead> grandchildren are the easiest to understand
06:52:21 <mrpackethead> grandaughters 6-11 are easy
06:52:26 <mrpackethead> then they go all weird on you
06:52:43 <mrpackethead> they say your granddad jokes are not funny
06:55:17 <steve30> Its cold today
07:05:00 <alexandrecvl2> could anyone have a quick look on enclosures that I produced to sell?
07:08:06 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
07:14:34 <DHess_US> Of course grandchildren are the easiest to understand. *hands back to parent* "He's wet. You take him."
07:34:23 <Ampera> Welp, that's it, I've given up on Linux for my Surface Pro 3.
07:34:56 <Ampera> It just almost works, but wlan support is iffy, and stylus support is pretty broken. I'm going to try Windows 10 and see if I have a better experience with it
07:35:02 <Ampera> it pains me to do this, but whatever
07:49:15 <damian> lol
08:05:16 <DHess_US> If the portable cannot be used to beat a zombie to death and then run AutoCAD, I'm not interested.
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08:09:34 <Ampera> DHess_US: well it's made of solid magnesium alloy, so maybe, and it can run Windows, so yes
08:09:52 <Ampera> it will likely become my Fusion 360 machine, as Windows has been kicked off my desktop computer, hopefully forever
08:18:09 <damian> surface pro 3 should run both of those alright :P
08:32:21 <Ampera> yeah
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08:38:28 <DHess_US> I've had too many bad experiences with poor portable reliability and toughness. Even laptops are just too fragile.
08:39:13 <Ampera> I wouldn't like to drop this tablet, but it doesn't seem like something that will just fall apart.
08:39:28 <Ampera> The screen glass I've heard is thin, but as I said, don't drop it.
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09:31:48 <alexandrecvl2> could someone evaluate my enclosures for electronic prototypes? https://groupgets.com/campaigns/478-mwf-folded-case
09:32:03 <alexandrecvl2> I want to do something better than those hammond boxes
09:50:45 <ServalSpots> Hey alexandrecvl2, long time no see
09:53:44 <Ampera> My god that was stupid
09:54:26 <Ampera> I had stored all of my important stuff from Linux onto another machine, but Doplhin (KDE) kept corrupting the SSH key I need to access my computer (and thus IRC client)
09:54:36 <Ampera> but now, I have SSH
09:57:17 <DHess_US> alexandrecvl2, I would want to be able to remove the top without removing the front panel which doe snot appear to be possible.
09:59:01 <ServalSpots> It'd also be nice to be able to pop the dimensions on screen while designing things
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11:46:23 <DHess_US> It is the start of the robot rebellion. https://abcnews.go.com/US/24-amazon-workers-hospital-bear-repellent-accident/story?id=59625712
11:57:01 <coppice> 250g of capsaicin will definitely spoil your day
12:03:03 <damian> (DHess_US) I've had too many bad experiences with poor portable reliability and toughness. Even laptops are just too fragile.
12:03:24 <damian> all surface devices are pretty good. they will obviously break if you are too rough, but all in all they're great devices, just expensive
12:04:02 <damian> especially the surface books, those things are very high performance, dual gpu (depending on use mode), tough little guys
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13:00:01 <DHess_US> damian, my problem is actually that my last expensive laptop had to be returned 3 times under warranty and then failed 1 month after the warrenty expired anyway. I could have built three repairable small form factor systems for that and still had them working.
13:01:10 <DHess_US> Now I know a lot more mechanical engineering and can more easily see how they are designed to be fragile.
13:05:42 <coppice> DHess_US: not all expensive laptops are built to be truly portable. There is a reason why, say, Dell has their Inspiron, Latitude and other lines. The Latitude ones can roam the world for several years with a low failure rate. The Inspirons are great for a home user, but don't expect it to tolerate endless airline travel.
14:00:31 <steve30> LAG members the other day were impressed with the build quality of my ThinkPad A31 :D
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18:18:16 <mrpackethead> well, someones claiming they have hacked the Rigol5000
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18:57:06 <Halcyon> "Hacked" ?
18:57:09 <Halcyon> As in... ?
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19:17:54 <Halcyon> Hmmm VLC under Linux really don't like playing WMV files
19:27:30 <Ampera> then repackage it into a wrapper that's not stupid
19:29:40 <Halcyon> CBF
19:29:50 <Halcyon> Also hi Ampera :)
19:30:14 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
19:31:15 <Ampera> I've replaced Linux on my Tablet with Windows.
19:31:29 <Halcyon> Really ?
19:32:58 <Halcyon> It's not April fools though ?
19:35:09 <Ampera> Eh, I was having issues with wlan support and the pen interface
19:35:35 <Halcyon> :(
19:35:37 <Ampera> using the active stylus could cause all finger touches to be disabled until reset
19:35:49 <Ampera> it just wasn't meant to be, but I'm getting decent performance on Windows
19:36:03 <Ampera> Windows 10 actually comes with OpenSSH out of the box, which I am using right now to talk to you
19:37:31 <Halcyon> It's still not enough to get me to use it
19:41:31 <Ampera> I still have Linux on my desktop computer
19:41:41 <Ampera> but I can actually watch videos from my SFTP share live now, so that's good
19:42:09 <Ampera> I can even mount the SFTP share to a drive letter, and the good part is unlike Plex, it's completely and totally free
20:34:23 <Halcyon> I just bought a Plex lifetime licence when it was cheap
21:07:00 <alexandrecvl2> is someone here experienced with EMI/EMC?
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21:18:27 <coppice> some people are too impatient to be helped
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21:32:22 <ThunderSqueak> hi there
21:32:37 <ThunderSqueak> hmmm https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtmyiDqUUAA-KbF.jpg
21:32:47 <coppice> How is your post apolcalytic existance?
21:33:08 <ThunderSqueak> recovering
21:33:24 <ThunderSqueak> university started up again today, they declared the buildings sound
21:33:28 <ThunderSqueak> well, most of them
21:33:58 <coppice> Maybe I should type apocalyptic a little slower
21:34:10 <ThunderSqueak> I read typo
21:34:19 <ThunderSqueak> fluent in it infact, I get a lot of practice
21:34:22 <coppice> I used to live in Tai Po
21:34:40 <ThunderSqueak> that image I just linked is hilarious
21:34:46 <ThunderSqueak> I love the response to it
21:35:39 <coppice> Isn't it old?
21:35:44 <ThunderSqueak> it is
21:35:59 <ThunderSqueak> just made me chuckle, was perusing images
21:37:51 * ThunderSqueak went gun shopping today.
21:38:07 <coppice> must have been a blast
21:39:35 <ThunderSqueak> it was fun
21:39:43 <ThunderSqueak> took about 3 hours before I found one I liked
21:40:12 <coppice> well, even if you don't like them, at least you gave it a shot
21:40:25 <ThunderSqueak> well, it was what I was shooting for
21:40:38 <ThunderSqueak> but I dont want to give you ammunition for more bad puns
21:41:04 <coppice> Its nice when you reach that bullseye moment
21:43:39 <ThunderSqueak> yes, I did pull the trigger on a purchase too
21:46:05 <ThunderSqueak> coppice, you have any firearms?
21:46:21 <coppice> I live in the UK, so no
21:46:28 <ThunderSqueak> ah gotcha
21:46:55 <ThunderSqueak> thought you could own them to hunt over there?
21:47:04 <ThunderSqueak> even if very very restricted
21:48:42 <coppice> Shotguns aren't hard to licence. Hand guns held within gun clubs can be licenced. More generally things are very restricted
21:49:16 <ThunderSqueak> ah, I live in an area where you don't even need a permit to conceal-carry
21:49:25 <ThunderSqueak> you just assume everyone is armed
22:02:59 * T3sl4 glomps ThunderSqueak
22:05:09 <ThunderSqueak> Hi T3sl4
22:05:18 <ThunderSqueak> how are you, I am winding down
22:05:42 <T3sl4> i just got up :P
22:07:21 <ThunderSqueak> ah, its 2am here, I have class tomorrow morning
22:07:45 <ThunderSqueak> but, I fell asleep earlier in the afternoon, so taking a bit to fall asleep
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