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00:57:59 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
02:38:12 <aram> so my landlord wanted to install new light fixtures and called these electricians.
02:38:15 <aram> they were hilariously incompetent.
02:38:16 <aram> then they resumed workin again on the live circuit again.
02:38:19 <aram> they didn't have a ladder, and asked me for one.
02:38:21 <aram> then, they started working on the live circuit :|.
02:38:24 <aram> then they got electrocuted.
02:38:26 <aram> then they caused a short, and the lights went out. they didn't have a flashlight so they asked me for one.
02:38:29 <aram> then they could not decide between themsleves which wire is the live wire and which wire is the neutral wire.
02:41:14 <K> natural selection happening in front of your eyes
02:43:05 <steve30> I'd just calmly leave them to injure themselves.
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03:01:03 <Ampera> steve30: That sounds about like what he did.
03:01:49 <Ampera> My god, did he just call Dave next door? I thought people had to be licensed and trained to work as electrical contractors.
03:02:57 <aram> I thought so too, but apparently not.
03:04:15 <aram> the lamps they installed are awful, I have to get new ones anyway.
03:04:26 <aram> I'll install them myself.
03:04:36 <aram> assuming I can borrow a drill from somewhere.
03:05:58 <aram> I don't understand why most LED fixtures are so dim. it's not like you can't put more dirt cheap LEDs in them.
03:06:59 <steve30> I think commercial type lights are best, as opposed to household type ones
03:07:26 <aram> yeah, the households are pretty awful, and they lie in their spec sheet.
03:07:56 <aram> I measured the output from a so called 1400 lumen system with a DSLR and it's only 800 lumen.
03:08:36 <aram> plus their color rendition is pretty bad too, depending on your luck.
03:09:19 * steve30 <3 his Osram Dulux L Lumilux DeLuxe lamps :)
03:09:20 <aram> you can find good LED lights in traditional form factors (A21, etc) but those are rather dim, so you need many of them.
03:09:40 <aram> I compiled this list of good (according to my criteria) LED bulbs
03:09:41 <aram> https://xw.is/wiki/LED_lights
03:13:30 <steve30> nice page
03:14:32 <steve30> I have some LED tape with decent CRI. I still need to install that somewhere
03:34:06 <Ampera> We are still primarily on CFLs
03:34:46 <Ampera> I think we have two active LED bulbs in the entire house.
03:35:26 <Ampera> The rest are either CFL, Halogen, or some misc incandescent
03:36:01 <DHess_US> Eh, reminds me of when I helped a friend fix a wall socket. *using pliers to remove wire* "Is this circuit live?" *ZAAAAAAP* "Not anymore."
03:36:11 <Ampera> I think we have three special bulbs in one ceiling fan/lamp because it can't take normal bulbs, and the regular ones are ass
03:36:58 <DHess_US> I don't like CFLs or LED bulbs where I currently live. Our dirty power keeps buring them out and they cost a lot more than incandescents.
03:36:59 <Ampera> I mean I replaced the switches in a dual switch lighting setup for my grandfather
03:37:15 <DHess_US> The incandescents burn out also but at least they are a fraction of the cost.
03:38:00 <DHess_US> With an LED builb, I would save a couple dollars per year ... except I would pay several times that replacing the LED bulb during that year.
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08:26:32 <Ampera> mmm, spray paint
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15:55:40 <DHess_US> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YCC1KS/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_apa_PyFbCb7XXVDGX?fbclid=IwAR2jXDKDk7Sb2A1Oapb_Ov-W1eccNfS6zNSKGBesS6XmUkdGBSjh8y45p_0&pldnSite=1
16:02:06 <ServalSpots> Fun fact: Trade slang for those is a "donkey dick"
16:04:53 <DHess_US> Oh? I'm suprised nobody mentioned that in the questions, answers, or comments.
16:14:35 <ServalSpots> I would imagine Amazon's filters would catch those
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16:49:46 <KF5QQV> Hey, anyone online?
16:50:29 * KF5QQV is lonely
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17:22:06 <kallsyms> lol
18:35:29 <steve30> morning
18:50:48 * steve30 hugs ServalSpots
21:33:48 * Halcyon pokes Steve
21:33:59 <Halcyon> Evening all
21:38:28 <T3sl4> o/
21:39:06 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
21:39:43 * T3sl4 grabs Halcyon by the pussy
21:39:56 <Halcyon> Man pussy I'm guessing?
21:40:00 <T3sl4> bussy
21:40:15 <Halcyon> :)
21:40:20 <Halcyon> What's been happening?
21:40:30 <T3sl4> just had breakfast
21:42:03 <Halcyon> What was breakfast?
21:42:14 <T3sl4> toasted bagel, creamcheese and sliced sausage on top ;)
21:42:43 <Halcyon> So American
21:42:51 <Halcyon> Did you use a bagel slicer?
21:42:52 * T3sl4 nods freedomingly
21:42:59 <T3sl4> more american than that
21:43:01 <T3sl4> presliced :P
21:44:05 <Halcyon> Wrapped in plastic too ?
21:44:13 <T3sl4> five in a bag
21:44:17 <Halcyon> :D
21:44:33 <Halcyon> I don't think I've ever bought a Bagel
21:44:40 <Halcyon> I vaguely remember trying one?
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22:58:05 <ThunderSqueak> hi
22:58:06 <ThunderSqueak> oo
22:58:08 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
22:59:33 * T3sl4 sips tea
22:59:35 <kallsyms> O.O
22:59:37 <kallsyms> hi ThunderSqueak
22:59:47 <ThunderSqueak> hi therey
22:59:50 <ThunderSqueak> https://youtu.be/QkNVYz9uajU?t=175
22:59:57 <ThunderSqueak> I want that beretta BB gun
23:00:06 <ThunderSqueak> that looks like fun to do target shooting with
23:00:42 <T3sl4> how much gas does it waste on just moving that damn slide
23:01:08 <T3sl4> also, good way to get shot by the police, carrying around one of those :P
23:01:51 <ThunderSqueak> T3sl4, you use it responsibly
23:02:05 <ThunderSqueak> also, I live in alaska... EVERYONE carries guns here
23:02:14 <T3sl4> ofc
23:02:46 <ThunderSqueak> no permit required for conceal carry
23:02:53 <T3sl4> but bringing a bb to a gun fight, should the situation occur, has some obvious drawbacks :P
23:03:06 <T3sl4> ("guns" may include bear arms, etc.)
23:03:13 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, but I was thinking of shooting targets XD
23:03:24 <ThunderSqueak> not carrying my sig p226
23:06:12 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, that BB gun looks like a fun balloon popper out at a range :P
23:06:19 <ThunderSqueak> or in a gravel pit somewhere
23:06:22 <T3sl4> definitely :P
23:06:25 <T3sl4> :) *
23:06:43 <ThunderSqueak> I would not carry that for self defense, you would piss someone off
23:07:32 <ThunderSqueak> huh that beretta is 100 on amazon
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23:22:16 <xDR1TeK> hello all
23:22:45 <xDR1TeK> did our benevolent leader make an appearance?
23:23:03 <ThunderSqueak> who is that?
23:23:22 <xDR1TeK> Dave man
23:23:32 <ThunderSqueak> not seen a dave man
23:23:33 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
23:23:40 <xDR1TeK> dave woman then
23:23:42 <xDR1TeK> :D
23:23:51 <xDR1TeK> he is old enough for that now
23:24:14 <ThunderSqueak> you have to be old enough for that?
23:24:20 <xDR1TeK> or cold
23:24:25 <xDR1TeK> which ever comes first
23:24:30 <ThunderSqueak> cold?
23:24:31 <ThunderSqueak> O.o
23:24:36 * ThunderSqueak is now so confused
23:24:56 * xDR1TeK why me? am i the only middle aged person on this planet?
23:26:00 <xDR1TeK> so with age things get,, howyou say? tiny? bald? shrivled up?
23:26:06 <xDR1TeK> forget it
23:26:12 <xDR1TeK> this needs imagination
23:26:12 * ThunderSqueak has been 29 for well over a decade now
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23:28:01 <xDR1TeK> sorry was trying to connect another server
23:29:01 <xDR1TeK> nice how dave managed to run his blog site, did he commission anyone to do it? i don't think he did it himself.
23:29:23 <ThunderSqueak> at first he did it himself
23:29:29 <ThunderSqueak> later he hired dave II ??
23:30:04 <xDR1TeK> close enough
23:30:08 <xDR1TeK> hired iNerds
23:30:08 <xDR1TeK> https://www.inerds.com.au/
23:30:25 <xDR1TeK> meh nice to know we are only human and we dont have super human powers
23:33:11 <ThunderSqueak> working on any fun projects?
23:33:17 <xDR1TeK> many
23:33:19 <ThunderSqueak> all mine are on the floor under rubble right now
23:33:31 <ThunderSqueak> but my back was killing me so I took a day off from sifting through it
23:33:35 <xDR1TeK> oh so what happened with the earthquake lately?
23:33:47 <ThunderSqueak> roughly 2000 aftershocks now
23:33:53 <xDR1TeK> wow
23:33:54 <ThunderSqueak> and lots of repair and cleanup
23:34:04 <xDR1TeK> life moved on i guess
23:34:09 <ThunderSqueak> yes
23:34:17 <xDR1TeK> speaking of projects
23:34:19 <ThunderSqueak> and to prove how tough alaskans are... 0 deaths
23:34:21 <xDR1TeK> work is killing me
23:34:29 <xDR1TeK> awesome
23:34:39 <xDR1TeK> that is pretty good news
23:34:40 <ThunderSqueak> other places with 7 or better quakes had lots of deaths, some in the hundreds of thousands
23:34:45 <ThunderSqueak> we had 0
23:34:55 <ThunderSqueak> people pulled together and we made do
23:34:56 <xDR1TeK> there you go, good planning
23:35:47 <xDR1TeK> can anyone move to alaska?
23:36:11 <xDR1TeK> i am not in the same continent mind you
23:36:14 <ThunderSqueak> yes but most either leave quick or are tough
23:36:27 <ThunderSqueak> the conditions can be hard up here
23:36:33 <xDR1TeK> oh
23:36:36 <xDR1TeK> figures
23:36:46 <ThunderSqueak> hence why I said tough
23:36:53 <ThunderSqueak> those up here are strong :)
23:37:17 <xDR1TeK> conditions are not in favor of life i imagine
23:38:32 <ThunderSqueak> but yeah, I have 1 room left to clean, I am up to about 3-4k in damages in my house
23:39:02 <xDR1TeK> bad
23:39:24 <ThunderSqueak> I was near the epicenter, the road near me collapsed and is rubble
23:39:39 <ThunderSqueak> like a harmonic wave hit this area
23:40:26 <xDR1TeK> anything nice in alaska? i know the scenery might be nice, but what do people do there in their spare time?
23:41:07 <ThunderSqueak> outdoor sports, tabletop game, hack and mod, and other normal stuff
23:41:17 <ThunderSqueak> I do archery in the summer
23:41:30 <ThunderSqueak> D&D all year round
23:41:34 <ThunderSqueak> and bike
23:41:36 <ThunderSqueak> etc
23:41:41 <ThunderSqueak> oh and fish.. lots of fishing
23:41:43 <xDR1TeK> DD?
23:41:52 <ThunderSqueak> role playing game
23:41:56 <ThunderSqueak> dungeons and dragons
23:42:00 <xDR1TeK> oh
23:42:22 <xDR1TeK> and living? how do you earn money?
23:42:33 <ThunderSqueak> since I am an EE and work from home, it is how I socialize
23:43:33 <xDR1TeK> i miss EE, i mentioned this last time, but thirst to do something in EE is killing me. I have frigging IT
23:44:03 <ThunderSqueak> I used to be IT
23:44:13 <ThunderSqueak> I did that for a living for 20 years
23:44:34 <xDR1TeK> it is worse now
23:44:48 <xDR1TeK> every few months, something pops up
23:44:52 <xDR1TeK> a new language
23:44:56 <ThunderSqueak> I got out because my paycheck dropped from 6 figures to 5
23:45:02 <xDR1TeK> new framework
23:45:10 <xDR1TeK> lol
23:45:20 <ThunderSqueak> wasnt worth my time anymore
23:45:49 <xDR1TeK> 6 figures? i know people will give a testicle for it. i know it depends where you live.
23:46:04 <ThunderSqueak> I ran a repair business
23:46:04 <xDR1TeK> anyhow, i just didn't find myself in IT that is all
23:46:11 <ThunderSqueak> I did a lot of contract work
23:46:29 <ThunderSqueak> <- was one of the few that did board level repair in alaska
23:46:53 <ThunderSqueak> infact, as other old techs retired, they often came to me and donated their gear
23:46:58 <xDR1TeK> IT now, routing, networking, Azure cloud, AWS cloud, bluemix cloud for IoT and so on.
23:46:59 <ThunderSqueak> so I have a LOT of old stuff
23:47:22 <ThunderSqueak> apparently no one was picking up the torch for electronics repair on a board level
23:47:32 <ThunderSqueak> consumer stuff isnt worth it anymore
23:47:39 <xDR1TeK> true
23:47:43 <ThunderSqueak> so, eventually ... I left
23:47:51 <ThunderSqueak> I used to make 110 an hour
23:47:56 <xDR1TeK> but those old boards, 0.o alaskan gold now
23:47:59 <ThunderSqueak> per client
23:48:21 <DHess_US> xDR1TeK, last time I heard, they were paying people to move to Alaska.
23:48:35 <xDR1TeK> from good old Middle East?
23:48:42 <xDR1TeK> the shit place on planet earth
23:48:55 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, I went into R&D and was trying to do something, and one day I realised I didnt know the math required so I went to the university and studied EE
23:49:02 <ThunderSqueak> got a degree in math along the way
23:49:09 <ThunderSqueak> and no they are not
23:49:10 <xDR1TeK> coool
23:49:25 <xDR1TeK> not giving money to move to alaska
23:49:26 <ThunderSqueak> they pay you about 700-1000 per year to live here
23:49:36 <xDR1TeK> ?
23:49:38 <ThunderSqueak> .but, that is NOTHING
23:49:46 <ThunderSqueak> it is a dividend from oil
23:49:46 <xDR1TeK> year?
23:49:49 <xDR1TeK> holy crap
23:49:51 <ThunderSqueak> yes per YEAR
23:49:59 <ThunderSqueak> I spend more than that sneezing
23:50:27 <xDR1TeK> 1000 for killing the ecosystem with co2?
23:50:32 <ThunderSqueak> yep
23:50:34 <ThunderSqueak> basically
23:50:36 <xDR1TeK> still too little
23:50:47 <ThunderSqueak> so the oil companies can ravage our lands
23:50:53 <xDR1TeK> ah
23:50:53 <ThunderSqueak> it is stupid tbh
23:51:17 <ThunderSqueak> but many alaskans "depend" on it...
23:51:18 <xDR1TeK> the good old "one hand washes the other"
23:51:33 <xDR1TeK> it doesnt matter
23:51:36 <ThunderSqueak> but its litterally not enough to even cover rent
23:51:41 <xDR1TeK> if it ain't them, someone else would come along
23:51:56 <ThunderSqueak> it is crazy expensive to live here in comparison to the rest of the usa
23:52:00 <ThunderSqueak> also, I am drunk
23:52:04 <xDR1TeK> lol
23:52:08 <xDR1TeK> thumbs up
23:52:13 <ThunderSqueak> couldnt sleep, back still hurt
23:52:20 <ThunderSqueak> got out the pistachios and wine
23:52:22 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
23:52:29 <xDR1TeK> and smokes
23:52:33 <xDR1TeK> shit not the smokes
23:52:35 <ThunderSqueak> no
23:52:39 <ThunderSqueak> I dont smoke
23:52:58 <xDR1TeK> frankly, what else is there these days
23:52:59 <ThunderSqueak> insense sometimes, but no smoke
23:53:07 <ThunderSqueak> pot is legal here but I think that stuff stinks
23:53:14 <xDR1TeK> pipe myself, 7 seas tobacco
23:55:04 <xDR1TeK> can't find irish ones though
23:55:26 <ThunderSqueak> salty pistachios go surprisingly well with a pinot wine
23:55:32 <xDR1TeK> i don't people here think past much water if it is in another ocean
23:55:32 <ThunderSqueak> very crisp flavor
23:55:34 <DHess_US> At least tobaco doesn't smell like the rope locker caught on fire.
23:55:47 <xDR1TeK> lol
23:56:02 <xDR1TeK> hemp and dust you mean
23:56:16 <ThunderSqueak> or skunk
23:56:24 <xDR1TeK> ouuuhhh
23:56:33 <ThunderSqueak> the pot here is so strong you can smell it for miles
23:56:36 <ThunderSqueak> it is crazy
23:56:39 <xDR1TeK> lol
23:56:54 <xDR1TeK> never tried it, i don't know what smell it is
23:57:14 <ThunderSqueak> ever smell a skunk?
23:57:28 <xDR1TeK> never
23:57:30 <DHess_US> It has the same smell as burning hemp which is commonly used to make rope hense the rope locker comment.
23:57:35 <DHess_US> It really does smell like a burning rope locker.
23:57:50 <ThunderSqueak> its ... revolting
23:58:02 <DHess_US> Eh, a skunk is a lot more revolting than burnign hemp.
23:58:05 <xDR1TeK> you know people can't imagine smells
23:58:24 <ThunderSqueak> the pot here smells like skunk
23:58:43 <ThunderSqueak> like the city had to pass laws based on smell
23:58:44 <xDR1TeK> i'm sure that is not why they like it
23:58:52 <ThunderSqueak> if you can smell it the person gets fined
23:58:56 <ThunderSqueak> it is so strong
23:59:07 <xDR1TeK> oh wow, that much
23:59:16 <xDR1TeK> compared to cigs
23:59:21 <xDR1TeK> more or less smell?
23:59:32 <ThunderSqueak> you can smell it a city block away
23:59:41 <xDR1TeK> bloody hell
23:59:48 <ThunderSqueak> its bad
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