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06:19 <ThunderSqueak> omg https://twitter.com/profgalloway/status/1076911600798449669
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19:55 <coppice_> ThunderSqueak: its photoshopped :)
20:07 <ThunderSqueak> *nodnod* :P
20:18 <ThunderSqueak> I am just drunk enough atm that it looks real
20:19 <ThunderSqueak> :>
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50:02 <mrpackethead> happy christmas
03:51 <Ampera> merry christmas
04:15 <ThunderSqueak> Merry christmas (a day early here)
07:14 <AndrevS> Merry Christmas... in 9 hours or so
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09:30 <Ampera> I consider Christmas to be a two day holiday, but it is Christmas eve here.
39:15 <rust_collector> I consider christmas 3 days of overeating
08:37 <ThunderSqueak> I consider chrismas a day where I eat cheap frozen pizza, drink alcohol, and in general sit alone at home trying to distract myself from feeling sad
12:01 <rust_collector> well, stop feeling sad, you have the perfect christmas, so... happy happy
20:14 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
20:35 * ThunderSqueak hands rust_collector a hot coco with mini marshmallows.
20:51 <rust_collector> yyaaaay!
20:55 <rust_collector> thanks
21:23 * ThunderSqueak offers rust_collector a fresh sprig of mint from her little garden.
21:35 <rust_collector> much better than yesterdays coffe microwaved
21:41 <ThunderSqueak> eww
21:47 <ThunderSqueak> you know, I dont even own a microwave
21:55 <ThunderSqueak> I cook everything the old fashioned way
22:00 <ThunderSqueak> often in cast iron
22:02 <rust_collector> cool
22:05 <rust_collector> or hot
22:35 <rust_collector> I don't cook things in there either. it is just for a quick reheat
22:45 <ThunderSqueak> when friends come over they are often shocked at that fact, game nights had a few keep bringing microwave meals and are at a loss when they find out
22:48 <rust_collector> kids use it for poopcorn
22:56 <ThunderSqueak> so, I offer to make them real food
23:47 <rust_collector> good good. make it a social thing
23:53 <ThunderSqueak> really does not take a lot more work to make real food, just a bit longer wait in the oven... but things taste a lot better
24:05 <rust_collector> cooking is nice anyway
24:08 <ThunderSqueak> it is
25:18 <rust_collector> garden... do you have a lot in that garden? We just get random weeds here, and a small area with grass.
25:56 <rust_collector> We used to have oregano growing up in the rocks, just outside out garden, which was nice
26:29 <ThunderSqueak> example of my cooking https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXa1gcSVQAEfrzi.jpg
26:43 <rust_collector> and a cherry tree, which was cut down, because gramps was tired of trimming it every year
26:47 <ThunderSqueak> I live in alaska but I keep a small hydroponic garden
27:00 <ThunderSqueak> mostly kitchen herbs... basil, mint, thyme, etc
29:10 <ThunderSqueak> I need to replant the parsley and dill... both died out suddenly
29:13 <ThunderSqueak> :/
29:25 <ThunderSqueak> they are on the same end of the setup
32:18 <ThunderSqueak> http://www.urban75.com/Mag/java7.html
33:27 <IoTPanic> Thats pretty neat
33:47 <ThunderSqueak> hmm, 87
34:15 <ThunderSqueak> 91 :D
34:21 <ThunderSqueak> now my wrist is sore ; ;
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35:50 <rust_collector> arrrgh, we have people... later
36:04 <ThunderSqueak> https://twitter.com/ThunderSqueakAK/status/1077226962223943680
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54:25 <masta0fDisasta> :)
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20:37 <rust_collector> okay, christmas is done here
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30:28 <damian> DONE?!
30:47 <rust_collector> yep
32:30 <steve30> I'm not done till Thursday I expect as we've got Grandma coming for dinner tomorrow and wednesday
37:34 <rust_collector> We are going to the wifes grandma tomorrow, but I am not sure if I am, I think I am getting sick. We will see.
38:46 <damian> that's one short christmas and one long christmas
38:53 <damian> you guys should trade some christmas days
38:59 <damian> wait, tomorrow
39:01 <rust_collector> but hey! I got 2 pairs of "cat" socks, that actually is the correct size. which is nice
39:13 <damian> you're not in Australia, gotcha. tomorrow is today here
39:25 <rust_collector> 24th here
39:33 <rust_collector> today, I mean
39:56 <damian> i'm waiting for the woman to wake up to do anything
40:06 <damian> i'm planning on climbing a mountain this morning and have to do presents first!
40:11 <rust_collector> what sock size system do you use in australia?
40:23 <rust_collector> or shoe
40:25 <damian> no idea, the smelly kind!
40:47 <damian> a mixture, it's stupid
41:04 <rust_collector> ah, great
41:15 <damian> generally we use UK, but it could be US, and formal is usaully EU
41:26 <rust_collector> perfect!
41:44 <damian> if someone asks you what shoe size you are, you give it to them in UK
49:18 <rust_collector> Hmm, the wife got a slow cooker thing. It was suddenly in my pile of stuff, so I guess I can grow massive amounts of bacteria now
39:10 <coppice_> damain: I'm in the UK and I wear a 46
40:12 <rust_collector> about time you got used to the eu system
43:31 <steve30> I have some 46 shoes and some 47 shoes
45:46 <rust_collector> I used to use 47, but it seems like I need almost one size larger, if I get steel toes. Not that I have tried all of them, but the last couple years, I have had to get 48 for work
48:44 <coppice_> shoes sizes are quite variable. The US<>UK<>EU conversion tables never agree
52:49 <Halcyon> Merry Christmas everyone!
59:43 <DHess_US> The sizes do not even agree between different brands of shoes.
00:53 <coppice_> they don't even agree within brands
04:00 <coppice_> shoe sizes focus too much on length, ignoring width most of the time
07:17 <DHess_US> Length is likely more important. You do not want a shoe which is too short.
10:58 <Halcyon> Back soon, going to install my new UPS in the rack
11:08 <rust_collector> I prefer a shoe that I can put my foot in. I don't care if it is too short or too narrow. both are wrong
11:42 <rust_collector> I guess I just have non-standard feet
13:46 <DHess_US> Too narrow is not nearly as bad as too short.
14:08 <rust_collector> Well, I like having all my toes
14:38 <coppice_> sure, length is more important, but width only seems unimportant if you have narrow feet :)
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16:36 <rust_collector> I wonder if it would be a good idea to use something like a ups on a router/modem thing.
17:03 <rust_collector> I guess they could keep running for some time on a battery
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32:49 <Halcyon> YAY
32:50 <DHess_US> All of my network stuff is on UPS. That give me time to shut off all of my remote sessions from one system.
33:05 <DHess_US> Network gear doesn't draw much anyway compared to computing resources.
33:06 <Halcyon> My whole rack uses a measly 350 watts at idle
33:19 <Halcyon> (at 240VAC)
35:41 <DHess_US> My main network is an Intel 410 24 port 10/100 switch.
35:52 <steve30> I just use mains power with no backup at all
36:42 <Halcyon> Whilst I used ZFS for my NAS, I'd still prefer to shut down cleanly.
36:54 <DHess_US> If I did that, I'd have to stumble downstairs in the dark to bring up the monitor and KVM to shutoff my server and stuff. With the networked backed up, I can do that at my workstation.
37:11 <Halcyon> Plus we get pretty bad storms here during summer, I've already had lightning fry things, so I don't want that to happen again
37:49 <DHess_US> Yea, terrible storms here. Loose power at least 4 times a year and at least 2 time for more than hours.
38:18 <DHess_US> I may have lost one network card to a lightning strike.
38:27 <DHess_US> Lost a few ham radios.
38:57 <rust_collector> I think we have lost power 3 times in the last 10 or so years, so it is not a huge issue here, also being at home, and not doing any work... I just have the mains
39:24 <rust_collector> but I like the idea. I would rather have the network up, than the computer
39:30 <Halcyon> Yeh same DHess_US
39:52 <rust_collector> I can always use a laptop if I feel like I have to watch youtube
40:07 <rust_collector> eeh, some tube anyway
40:11 <steve30> if my power fails i just put up with it :)
40:12 <Halcyon> ;-)
40:48 <Halcyon> I don't need the UPS to last forever, just long enough that I can wait out small interruptions (say <15 minutes), after that, I'll just shut everything down.
41:11 <Halcyon> At the moment, I have about an hour's runtime on my UPS for my rack.
46:08 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
49:20 <Halcyon> Aww :)
49:24 * Halcyon pats Steve
50:18 * steve30 purrs
51:06 <Halcyon> I should probably go to the supermarket and grab some last minute things before my house is inundated with guests
51:28 <steve30> what kind of guests do you have coming?
51:44 <rust_collector> you really have to enjoy going to the store
52:01 <Halcyon> Some of my partner's family for dinner tonight, then the old half of his family are arriving from Melbourne in a few days to stay for a week or so.
52:30 <Halcyon> *other
52:31 <Halcyon> Not old
52:32 <Halcyon> :P
27:16 <DHess_US> Beware geeks bearing gifts.
12:31 <Halcyon> I suppose I should start cooking
02:23 <steve30> ooh, food
56:23 <DHess_US> https://tinyurl.com/y848c4bz
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29:17 <Halcyon> Evening all
40:45 <AustUser> evenning halcyon
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50:17 <Halcyon> Hey hsn
50:19 <Halcyon> How are you?
50:30 <hsn93> im good thank.. how r u ..
50:36 <Halcyon> Yeh not too bad
50:49 <Halcyon> Successful Christmas on this end, winding down. How about you?
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52:18 <hsn93> merry christmas. im in middle east. muslim culture. we have celebration of jesus birth but its not as big as christimas.
52:53 <Halcyon> I'm not religious at all. Christmas for me is about spending time with the ones you love. Also eating and drinking way too much.
53:05 <hsn93> xD
53:49 <hsn93> so succesful christimas means you are having excellent food :D
53:53 <Halcyon> Indeed
54:09 <hsn93> this bot can list the rules? any commands for it ?
54:16 <Halcyon> My family is half Scandinavian, so plenty of different food.
54:28 <Halcyon> Which bot are you talking about?
54:45 <hsn93> EEVBlog is a znc bot right?
55:21 <Halcyon> Yes, no commands for it at the moment. We've run it up as a test to relay the EEVBlog Twitter feed.
55:30 <Halcyon> Still ironing out some issues with it.
56:10 <Halcyon> Needless to say over the last week or so, silly season has prevented us investing too much time on it
56:52 <hsn93> oh, okay.. im not expert. but was searching about it yesterday only.
57:37 <Halcyon> What were you searching?
57:44 <hsn93> i was in some security irc they had cool bot.. thats all.. sometimes you want to see history chat. bots are helpful. .
58:02 <Halcyon> Indeed
58:34 <Halcyon> Although we don't want to run too many bots in here. We like to keep it simple. It's a place for communication and collaboration as opposed to automatically generated content.
59:28 <hsn93> i see.. nice, is it active channel with electronics discussion also ?
59:42 <Halcyon> We discuss all things
00:11 <Halcyon> It's rather quiet now as you can apprciate. Most people are either with their families or on the other side of the planet.
02:03 <hsn93> oh, ok.. cool... will need to get to know them when they come back :D
02:30 <Halcyon> Sure, that's what we're all here for.
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07:02 <Ampera> Hey Halcyon
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07:50 <Ampera> eyyyy, ThunderSqueak
08:03 <ThunderSqueak> hi there Ampera
08:14 <Ampera> So my friend Jack bought me PC Building Simulator for christmas, an neat sort of tycoon game
08:30 <Ampera> in the game there are situations where you have to run 3DMark to ensure a computer you just upgraded doesn't crash through being stressed
08:42 <ThunderSqueak> that sounds... horrible XD
08:48 <Ampera> well as stupid as it is, after running 3DMark, the computer in the game doesn't crash, the fucking game crashes.
08:50 * ThunderSqueak did that professionally for 20 years
08:54 <Ampera> It's actually not, it's really neat.
09:22 <Ampera> In my mind, professionally or not, it's like building a birdhouse.
09:40 <Ampera> Every time is a little different, and it's easily put together. I put older machines together for myself as a hobby.
10:11 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, just got my 10,000 hours in XD
10:17 <ThunderSqueak> fixing machines etc LOL
31:49 <ThunderSqueak> https://twitter.com/MattBloomFilms/status/1077152934453018624
15:11 <hsn> :D
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30:46 <coppice> ThunderSqueak: that's an old concept. Lots of late 80s/early 90s remotes had a shutter to cover most of the buttons.
31:26 <ThunderSqueak> coppice, I know... I lived through that era... I just found it funny with the tape
31:48 <DHess_US> Just lose the remote. Nobody will suspect a thing.
33:46 <coppice> ThunderSqueak: its not funny when they say "parents". It was people of "parents" age who developed the bloody remote controls in the first place. It just shows a serious dumbness
34:29 <ThunderSqueak> it depends how old they are
34:47 <ThunderSqueak> and how late they were born, not everyone of that vintage is tech savvy
35:04 <coppice> If they are too old to have been the generation who developed the first remote controls they'll be dead by now
35:30 <ThunderSqueak> ... and not everyone is tech savvy
35:32 <ThunderSqueak> anyway
35:55 <coppice> making it a joke about the dumbest in the room is very appropriate
37:45 <ThunderSqueak> ok fine, I thought it a humorous joke, having grown up in a very rural area where I know people that have issues with tech, anyway... thanks for wrecking my somewhat decent mood on christmas
38:50 <coppice> no problem. glad I could help.
39:26 <ThunderSqueak> merry christmas to ya, hope in the coming year you have a good one
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08:55 <hsn> i think its a joke of "everybody face this thing were parent ask them about how to do a thing with the remote" not related to "if old people are dumb or not" ..
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26:45 <coppice> hsn: how would "everybody face this thing where parent ask them about how to do a thing with the remote" not be predicated on "old people are dumb"?
51:58 <BurtyB> tbh I think it just shows how OK we are with ageism
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