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50:28 <Ampera> DHess_US: more emphasis on the consumer part of that, but you didn't exactly have a PDP-11 on the desk of every office, and for good reason.
58:30 <IoTPanic> Wow, are you guys still up?
58:49 <coppice_> actually, at the end the LSI11's life it did go into quite a few VT100s (I forget what they called the VT100 with the card cage actually filled with an LSI11). Not exactly the kind of box you found on every desk, but you did see quite a few in technical environmetns
01:03 <Ampera> I'm not saying they weren't around, I'm saying microprocessors quickly took over for very good reason.
01:36 <Ampera> IoTPanic, like I fuckin sleep
01:52 <IoTPanic> I feel like I dont
01:59 <IoTPanic> I should see a doctor
24:06 <DHess_US> Ampera, but they were huge in the business fields. In the early 70s, TTL was the most cost effective technology for computers.
24:53 <DHess_US> It took 16 bit microprocessors like the 68k to displace them.
32:23 <coppice_> Even the crude old 8080 and Z80 started to have a big impact on TTL computers, well before the 16 bit machines made an impact. The early 16 bit machines, like the 9900, were not that successful
37:53 <Ampera> I said didn't go anywhere, I didn't say they weren't huge.
38:18 <Ampera> The point is they were replaced, and quite happily, as sticking a load of chips into a box is hot and expensive.
38:22 <Ampera> sort of like me
41:10 <coppice_> Its more interesting that the only architecture from the TTL and ECL days which became broadly significant as a single chip design was the 9900. The LSI11, the single chip HP processors, and others never broke out of the confines of their developers own machines
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25:56 <rust_collector> awesome! one more confusing thread about power supplies
26:08 <rust_collector> hey people.
29:19 <IoTPanic> Hi
30:10 <rust_collector> hey-o! is it a good day? I have been pretty busy with car stuff today
31:10 <IoTPanic> Its okay
31:46 <rust_collector> YAAY!!! rainbow unicorn flowers!!!
35:32 <rust_collector> ok, back to car stuff. have fun
43:57 <steve30> anyone know how to block youtube ads?
47:09 <IoTPanic> Pi-Hole? Wont totally get rid of them but it will reduce them quite a bit
47:21 <DHess_US> That';s funny coppice_, we were using Z80 CP/M computers as terminals and to do development of programs to run on TTL minicomputers which were in a different class.
47:23 <IoTPanic> And will remove ads across your network
47:44 <DHess_US> TTL systems like the PDP and VAX were huge.
47:57 <IoTPanic> On every site every machine. You can install it on a server like freeNAS or a rpi
57:26 <rust_collector> ublock works pretty well for me?
59:49 <IoTPanic> I also use AdBlock plus which is free
59:55 <IoTPanic> Even though its called plus
07:08 <DHess_US> ublock origin here
07:18 <rust_collector> I used to use adblock plus, but there was some comments about it using lots of resources... must have been a few years ago, so went to ublock. I have not tried adblock since then, so I don't know if there is much difference now
07:45 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, ublock origin
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42:28 <DHess_US> I ran Edge on my Windows 10 test system for about 15 minutes. I don't know how people put up with the unblocked web. It was owned in 15 minutes and I had to kill it with task manager.
46:28 <coppice> Edge is now dead
56:16 <DHess_US> The same happens with Firefox but at least it doesn't get compromised.
56:30 <DHess_US> Firefox without script and ad blocking.
01:56 <IoTPanic> Yeah, edge is being replaced with a chrome backend based browser
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45:17 <cappicard> good afternoon y'all :)
50:39 <IoTPanic> evening
51:35 <DHess_US> The only thing Microsoft could release which does not suck is a vacuum cleaner.
52:19 <IoTPanic> Omg thank you for that tid bit XD I strongly agree
55:44 <cappicard> introducing Microsoft Mega Maid! :)
56:09 <coppice> Dyson seems to be getting into electric cars as part of some grand "products that suck/don't suck
56:16 <coppice> joke
59:32 <DHess_US> 6 days 20 hours uptime on my Windows 10 test system. I might have fixed it.
03:59 <Halcyon> Gawd my legs hurt
05:35 <DHess_US> Why?
05:58 <Halcyon> Exercise yesterday
06:20 <DHess_US> A NSAI like aspirin will help a lot.
06:37 <Halcyon> *nod* I would need to go get some
07:01 <DHess_US> You have nothing? Not even Alka selter?
07:21 <DHess_US> alka seltzer
07:29 <Halcyon> Nah
07:34 <Halcyon> I don't normally take drugs
07:56 <DHess_US> I've been debating whether to add aspirin and naproxin sodium to the emergency kit I keep with me.
08:33 <DHess_US> They are actually good to keep for treating a heart attack or stroke before you can get to a hospital.
08:53 <Halcyon> *nod* Indeed, they say those with heart problems should keep Asprin on them all the time
09:48 <DHess_US> I have a pile of Vicodin from my last two surgeries but i wouldn't carry that with me.
10:21 <DHess_US> It's for my Dr. House impression. I need to get a cane also though.
10:43 <Halcyon> Hahah
25:43 <cappicard> naproxen sodium works for my lower back (scoliosis)
26:02 <Halcyon> Or I can stop being a sook and just deal with it :P
28:35 <IoTPanic> DHess_US install a firewall that informs you of a new program using your network interface and that shows you the name like glasswire, you will stop liking Windows 10 a lot
29:05 <Halcyon> DHess_US likes Windows 10? What is wrong with you? :P
29:16 <IoTPanic> And Halcyon, you want to see American style policing if you don't really understand how it works? And I dont think he does, but he's suing it
29:41 <Halcyon> Hm?
29:42 <IoTPanic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WqONRu1Nl4
29:47 <Halcyon> Oh *clicks8
29:51 <IoTPanic> Watch this guy a bit
30:09 <IoTPanic> He is a bounty hunter turned law enforcment
30:17 <IoTPanic> Literally the opposite of what normally happens
30:35 <Halcyon> For some reason my browser doesn't want to play it. It is a recent upload?
30:54 <IoTPanic> From the other day
31:14 <IoTPanic> Or, actually, maybe today
31:15 <Halcyon> Yeh I find for whatever reason, my browser doesn't play recently uploaded videos until YouTube converts them into a format it likes
31:19 <rust_collector> works fine here
31:21 <IoTPanic> I havent been paying attention to youtube
31:22 <Halcyon> I have to work out why
31:30 <Halcyon> rust_collector: It's something to do with my machine
31:38 <IoTPanic> What is the error message?
32:10 <Halcyon> It's the generic "Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats available. Click here to visit our FAQ about HTML5 video."
32:28 <Halcyon> If I give it 12-24 hours, it normally works
32:29 <IoTPanic> Oh, hahahaha. What are you using for a browser?!
32:32 <Halcyon> Opera
32:35 <IoTPanic> HAHAHA
32:39 <IoTPanic> XD
32:39 <Halcyon> On Windows its never been a problem
32:42 * IoTPanic dies
32:44 <Halcyon> Its since moving to Linux
32:55 <IoTPanic> It don't even have HTML5
32:57 <DHess_US> Halcyon, it is a test system for confirming and reinforcing my dislike of Windows 10.
33:06 <IoTPanic> Lmao
33:08 <Halcyon> IoTPanic: It does, but for some reason its broke on this install
33:24 <IoTPanic> Just install firefox, do yourself a favor, or purge it and reinstall
33:28 <rust_collector> opera is sort of chromium based now, isn't it?
33:33 <Halcyon> *shrug*
33:35 <IoTPanic> Kind of....
33:39 <IoTPanic> Its kinda shady now
33:40 <Halcyon> As I said I just haven't gotten around to fixing it
33:45 <IoTPanic> In my opinion
33:46 <Halcyon> Its never been a bother for me
33:54 <DHess_US> Oh, I'm using Firefox. But I used Edge to download it.
33:54 <IoTPanic> I have found ads for it IN a virus
34:10 <Halcyon> I'll download Firefox...
34:14 <IoTPanic> Yeah...
34:29 <IoTPanic> I think Opera lost that project of her's
34:38 <IoTPanic> Like three years ago
34:48 <IoTPanic> Either that or she's been doing crack
35:11 <Halcyon> Gah I need to order more printer toner
35:26 <Halcyon> I've been shaking it for so long its now starting to finally fade
35:32 <IoTPanic> Why dont we use heat sensitive paper?
35:37 <IoTPanic> Then we wouldnt need ink
35:40 <Halcyon> Because I live in Australia :P
35:52 <Halcyon> Thermal paper sucks
35:56 <Halcyon> And fades
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36:02 <IoTPanic> Ah
36:06 <IoTPanic> Its SOOO cheap
36:17 <Halcyon> I'm thinking about buying a new dot matrix
36:29 <Halcyon> OK I'm watching that video
36:49 <IoTPanic> That is how american police get legal authority to enter a household
36:51 <IoTPanic> Evidence
37:06 <Halcyon> I am so glad we don't have "bounty hunters" here
37:14 <Halcyon> I'd imagine they are like pretend cops?
37:25 <IoTPanic> Eh, most turn out that way
37:51 <IoTPanic> Or ex cops who got fired for a terrible crime. I think Patty just didnt go to school for it until just recently
37:59 <rust_collector> I looked up where opera is, and it is quite possible they are on crack
38:12 <Halcyon> "Female screaming inside" ?!
38:18 <Halcyon> That old chestnut aye
38:50 <IoTPanic> I think halcyon has had all of his information purchased online because crack deals gave Opera a half pound of fresh from the microwave crack
38:58 <IoTPanic> dealers**
39:11 <IoTPanic> And now they own the browser
39:19 <Halcyon> Oh OK, it seems that she is actually bound and gagged ?
39:24 <Halcyon> I couldn't hear it before
39:31 <IoTPanic> Um.... yeah. That is an actual kidnapping
39:36 <Halcyon> They really look unprofessional
39:41 <Halcyon> Guns pointed everywhere
39:51 <IoTPanic> Well, because they dont know if HE has a gun
39:55 <DHess_US> Opera lost it a couple years ago.
39:56 <IoTPanic> And he's assulting them
39:56 <Halcyon> Sure
40:20 <Halcyon> But they are in the perfect position for cross fire
40:32 <Halcyon> This is how innocent people get shot
40:57 <DHess_US> Haha. Do a search for police shoot bystander.
41:39 <IoTPanic> Yeah
41:52 <IoTPanic> But they're in the middle of fucking no where
42:02 <IoTPanic> 45 minutes was nearest medic
42:11 <Halcyon> Yep
42:44 <IoTPanic> Enjoy the hillbillies
43:02 <Halcyon> 'merica
43:03 <Halcyon> :P
43:06 <IoTPanic> Yep
43:29 <Halcyon> Thankfully our bogans are usually alright, they are just lazy fucks.
43:34 <Halcyon> And dumb
43:41 <Halcyon> But have this weird respect for Police
43:46 <IoTPanic> If you havent seen the land owner yet... XD
43:49 <IoTPanic> The RP
43:51 <Halcyon> The big old guy
43:53 <Halcyon> ?
44:09 <Halcyon> I skipped ahead a bit
44:10 <IoTPanic> Not the one in cuffs, he is not the reporting party
44:27 <IoTPanic> The other old hillbilly lookin guy who lives in the mobile home vs the trailer
44:36 <IoTPanic> He's towards the end
44:37 <Halcyon> Glasses?
44:41 <IoTPanic> Yeah
44:42 <rust_collector> well. I remember my mom in law being told she should get some kind of gun, by the local police, because if anything happened, they would probably not get there until about 2 hours.
44:48 <DHess_US> This is much more amusing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG6WF-BhnCg
45:21 <IoTPanic> Oh, thats not amusing at all, that is a woman duck taped missing for 3 days
45:35 <IoTPanic> But DUIs are in general on youtube yes
45:43 <Halcyon> Hahaha
45:49 <IoTPanic> OH ive seen this....
45:56 <IoTPanic> Haha
45:58 <Halcyon> I can honestly say I've never pulled over a scissor lift
46:09 <IoTPanic> That is one of my favorite videos
46:12 <IoTPanic> Period
46:17 <IoTPanic> That IS america
46:27 <Halcyon> I can tell by the accent
46:31 <IoTPanic> I bet he was going to walmart to get more beer
46:34 <Halcyon> (of the simpleton)
46:47 <IoTPanic> And lunch
46:56 <IoTPanic> And dunkin if he's on the east coast
47:18 <Halcyon> Hahaha I love when people say "I know my rights" or "You need a warrant" as if I don't know the law... I always tell them they've been watching too much television
47:34 <Halcyon> You would be amazed how many people try to recite when they see on American TV in Australia
47:49 <Halcyon> *what they see
47:52 <IoTPanic> "I KNOW MY RIGHTS I PAY YOUR SALARY" "Are you coming down or are we forcing you down steve?"
48:01 <Halcyon> Hahaha yes that's another good one :P
48:23 <IoTPanic> Presses hydraulic release
48:58 <coppice> "I KNOW MY RIGHTS. I PAY YOUR SALARY. HOW ABOUT A 10% PAY RISE, AND WE FORGET ABOUT THIS?"
49:04 <IoTPanic> Ugh. You would hate my morning walk, all yall
49:05 <DHess_US> Halcyon, is your car marked MFP?
49:14 <Halcyon> I think one of the stupidest things I've witnessed was an Asian woman reversing around a roundabout because she missed the exit
49:18 <Halcyon> MFP ?
50:01 <DHess_US> https://madmax.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Force_Patrol
50:42 <Halcyon> Hah
50:46 <Halcyon> Not a huge fan of Mad Max
50:51 <DHess_US> "Helicopter parenting sounded freaking awesome, until I realized it didn't involve my wife giving birth to an actual helicopter."
51:06 <IoTPanic> omg
51:11 <IoTPanic> No
51:16 <IoTPanic> Go to scarbrough
51:29 <Halcyon> ?
51:39 <coppice> I think helicopter parenting involves use of a chopper
52:13 <coppice> Scarborough is signposted from here
52:25 <IoTPanic> Its a town here
52:34 <IoTPanic> Rather known for their helecopter parents
52:54 <IoTPanic> Specifically mothers
58:11 <Halcyon> Holy shit that looks awesome: https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/baileys-ice-cream-cake-recipe/bk1pkrfc
58:25 <Halcyon> Cake AND booze together
05:35 <coppice> The daughter of the man who came up with Baileys Irish cream was on the radio the other day. She said he was given a consultancy job to find a way to make money from the UK cream surplus that was resulting from the shift in public taste to half fat milk. At the same time he was consulting on how to bring a loss making Irish whiskey factory to profitability. He combined the tasks, et voila.....
06:09 <Halcyon> \o/
08:43 <IoTPanic> Im watching daves new video, I like it when he mentions his old military stuff
09:16 <Halcyon> I'm looking at recipes
09:25 <IoTPanic> Nice, with booze?
09:55 <Halcyon> Heh, no, something to make for dinner
09:57 * T3sl4 beers IoTPanic
10:16 * IoTPanic grins because T3sl4 broke the law
10:24 <T3sl4> fuck da police
10:43 <Halcyon> Broke the law?
11:01 <IoTPanic> Wouldnt mind a beer. Im not of legal drinking age
11:04 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
11:07 <IoTPanic> I can fight for trump
11:11 <IoTPanic> But cant drink a beer
11:22 <Halcyon> Oh that's right, you Americans can buy guns, but you can't be trusted to drink until 21
11:30 <coppice> T3sl4: If two police, who love each other very much....
12:21 <IoTPanic> I can get my legs blown off with an IED in Afganistan and wouldnt legally be able to take a shit before they amputated me in the field
12:29 <IoTPanic> shot**
12:30 <IoTPanic> wow
12:32 <Halcyon> Drinking age here is 18 but you can legally be supplied alcohol if you're younger if you're supervised by a responsible adult... e.g.: During family functions etc...
13:08 <IoTPanic> Yes, Maine is cool so pot is legal and we have a kinda workaround too
13:20 <IoTPanic> 12+ if your parents give permission on their own peoperty
13:24 <IoTPanic> Weird state maine
13:31 <coppice> In the US you can be arrested for giving your teenagers alcohol... or letting them play in the park
13:34 <Halcyon> Smoking too much there perhaps?
13:49 <Halcyon> What coppice?
14:21 <IoTPanic> Yes, you could federally be arrested
14:28 <IoTPanic> But no federal police care
14:46 <IoTPanic> State and city police have no legal obligation to
14:52 <IoTPanic> Due to state law
15:15 <Halcyon> I don't think we have many crazy laws in my state, Victoria have a few I believe
15:38 <Halcyon> Apparently it's *technically* illegal for an unqualified person to change a light bulb in Victoria.
15:42 <Halcyon> $10 fine
15:43 <IoTPanic> If I had pot and got pulled over by city or state police, I would be OK, if I got pulled over by a federal agent because they thought I killed a hooked, I would get additional jailtime
15:51 <coppice> Except in Utah. They recently passed a law banning the prosecution of parents for giving their children the kind or freedom that was normal until 20 years ago
15:52 <IoTPanic> And thats funn
15:54 <IoTPanic> y
16:25 <coppice> Halcyon: they can change them, but the light bulbs have to want to change
16:36 <coppice> Halcyon: its all about consent
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16:55 <Halcyon> lol
17:23 <IoTPanic> All make sense Halcyon?
18:07 <Halcyon> Actually that one's false, I looked it up
18:09 <Halcyon> Dammit
18:21 <IoTPanic> What?
18:25 <Halcyon> The light bulb one
18:36 <IoTPanic> Oh, lol
19:01 <IoTPanic> Its illegal to have ice cream in your back pocket on a Sunday in one state that starts with an I
19:52 <Halcyon> Apparently Western Australia have a "Marketing of Potatoes Act"
20:01 <Halcyon> Which looks like its still in-force
20:35 <coppice> Australia is big on agricultural laws
20:57 <Halcyon> I think you're right, I don't know much about those sorts of laws myself
21:08 <Halcyon> I'm sure our Rural Crime Investigators do
21:35 <Halcyon> Apparently theft of Cattle etc... is quite common in rural areas
22:00 <coppice> and the muddy shoes of those arriving at Australian airports
22:11 <IoTPanic> Yeah, still a problem in a lot of places...
22:17 <Halcyon> That's a Customs and Border Protection problem :P
22:57 <Halcyon> But it makes sense, there are restrictions on what kind of fruit you can bring into certain parts of Australia. For example we have Fruit Fly protection areas where they have crops.
23:27 <Halcyon> https://www.interstatequarantine.org.au/travellers/quarantine-zones/
23:46 <coppice> Halcyon: unlike the US, they are really trying to keep out filthy Mexicans
23:57 <Halcyon> Hahah, yes, so it seems
24:41 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FKM6NOZmrY
24:44 <IoTPanic> Dont worry, the wall is going to solve ALL of our problems
25:06 <IoTPanic> AKA soup?
25:36 <Halcyon> That looks delicious
25:39 <IoTPanic> Looks good, why do you have to do it over a fire?
25:53 <Halcyon> Needs chilli though
26:13 <rust_collector> you don't, but I guess it is easier if you do have a fire, and a huge pan thing like that?
26:37 <rust_collector> I have seen some people put chilli in there
27:32 <T3sl4> hard to control the heat in a place like that
28:36 <Halcyon> My kind of breakfast: https://www.goodfood.com.au/recipes/breakfast-fried-rice-with-egg-and-bacon-20180612-h119fa
29:28 <rust_collector> I think you do not have to control the heat that much for this dish? And I think adding the carrots and stuff does help, due to the water content, maybe
30:11 <rust_collector> that looks nice too
30:36 <IoTPanic> I will give you credit though, it looks very good.
30:37 <T3sl4> gotta stir it enough that it doesn't burn, without a small-shaped carb source in there i would guess it doesn't burn so quickly at least
30:48 <T3sl4> ah, yes, let's fish five cloves into it
30:52 <coppice> Halcyon: looks very Indonesian
30:54 <T3sl4> sorry, /heads/
31:28 <T3sl4> although on that note, what's he adding at 25:00ish? rice?
31:58 <rust_collector> yes, rice
32:11 <T3sl4> rust_collector: are you slavic/russian?
32:46 <rust_collector> nope, but for some reason, I have been interested in "russian" cooking lately
33:05 <Halcyon> I like the simplicity of their recipes
33:25 <rust_collector> even if it is just the same 3 dishes, made in 200 different ways
33:30 <IoTPanic> I like making some Pakistani food
34:25 <rust_collector> T3sl4: I is norwegian, thanks many
34:57 <T3sl4> ahhh
35:19 <T3sl4> heh, sort of close, i guess :P
35:39 <IoTPanic> eh, closer than most Americans
35:44 <T3sl4> ^
35:50 <IoTPanic> Cant ask for much
35:57 <rust_collector> yep, I have actually been in russia with a military jeep, so...
36:17 <T3sl4> now i can't help but read that as "jep" and "yeep"
36:21 <IoTPanic> I went to school with a girl who thought china was where canada is and vice versa
36:26 <IoTPanic> Totally convinced
36:45 <rust_collector> that is something
36:52 <IoTPanic> She was insanely dyslexic and one of those the earth is flat people
36:57 <T3sl4> 38:00ish i'm unsure if he's showing the garlic heads off as the centerpiece of the dish, or if the meat is
36:58 <coppice> China is in the cupboard near the kitchen sink
37:43 <rust_collector> I do mix up different countries in south america, but china and canada...
37:58 * Halcyon noms on Lebanese breat
38:01 <Halcyon> bread
38:12 <coppice> If china and canada were swapped, think how much shipping cost could be saved
38:24 <rust_collector> not if you live up here
38:42 <rust_collector> shipping from the us is really really expensive
39:28 <MrMobodies> Global Shipping Programme can be a bit high sometimes.
39:42 <MrMobodies> I use that a lot on Ebay to get things I can't get in the uk.
39:43 <T3sl4> i can connect both of these topics by noting, a friend lives in sask, but is slavic more or less; he'd probably have moderate interest in this conversation :P
40:06 <T3sl4> Halcyon: was gonna say, breast is the last thing i'd expect you to nom
41:20 <Halcyon> I do like Chicken breast though
41:32 <MrMobodies> I like it fried and breaded.
41:34 <Halcyon> So juicy and moist
42:00 <Halcyon> Mmmm schnitzel
42:25 * T3sl4 schnitzes on Halcyon
42:27 <MrMobodies> Fried breast with hash browns on it. and a bit of mayonnaise.
42:46 <Halcyon> I reckon I could eat Katsu Don forever
43:26 <rust_collector> looks nice
43:33 <Halcyon> It's delicious
43:35 <Halcyon> Quite easy to make too
43:55 <Halcyon> But you need that Japanese red pepper/chilli stuff to do with it
43:57 <MrMobodies> Never heard of it before but it looks nice in all that cheese in Google images.
44:07 <rust_collector> gulai otak is pretty nice
44:11 <Halcyon> It's not cheese, it's egg
44:17 <MrMobodies> Oh sorry.
44:55 <Halcyon> It's basically rice cooked with onions and I think soy sauce, topped with either pork or chicken schnitzel, spring onions and egg
45:32 <rust_collector> I want a wok. But then I would need a fire, or some sort of gas burner
45:40 <rust_collector> which I guess I could make
45:41 <MrMobodies> I'll have it made soon when I get the ingredients together it looks good.
45:55 <coppice> Halcyon: you need to use real panko, not european style breadcrumbs like a schnitzel
46:01 <MrMobodies> This one: http://thewoksoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/katsudon-6.jpg
46:01 <Halcyon> Absolutely
46:24 <Halcyon> I love panko breadcrumbs, they are much crunchier
46:33 <coppice> I recently found how panko is made. that's one seriously industrial cooking process
46:59 <coppice> they pass a current through the slurry like dough to heat ot
47:25 <Halcyon> You also want to get or make some of this to go with Katsudon: https://www.chefsarmoury.com/products/shichimi-togarashi-15g
47:30 <rust_collector> they used to make aluminum, but then one day...
47:34 <Halcyon> It's so good
49:15 <MrMobodies> They look thicker the Panko breadcrumbs?
49:26 <Halcyon> Yeh the crumbs are much larger
49:50 <coppice> they are 100% crust
49:56 <MrMobodies> This is giving me a tase on what my meals should look like: https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/39797/8375.jpg
50:23 <Halcyon> Yep
50:29 <Halcyon> I could demolish that
51:17 <Halcyon> https://storage.googleapis.com/gen-atmedia/3/2015/04/4a3d0792b93e364b518b083db2ccf61aac26037c.jpeg
51:34 <Halcyon> You get a "fluffier" and crispier coating with Panko
51:37 <MrMobodies> Home made without the chemicals.
54:20 <Halcyon> I feel like cooking now, but I've just had breakfast
55:34 <MrMobodies> It is nearly midnight and I might have a fishfingers ham and beans. Tomorrow I'll get some those ingredients.
55:35 <Halcyon> Maybe I'll do Chicken Pad Kee Mao for dinner
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56:36 <MrMobodies> It looks good. https://norecipes.com/pad-kee-mao-recipe
56:57 <MrMobodies> All these ideas will get me to eat more salads.
57:06 <Halcyon> https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/chicken-pad-kee-mao/475870b2-0965-4468-ba2e-3d475fa6c57a
57:17 <Halcyon> This is the recipe I'll use. It's a bit more "saucy"
58:19 <MrMobodies> It puts places like Subways to shame. I don't go there I see their adverts.
58:21 <Halcyon> I love those wide rice noodles
58:33 <Halcyon> I find all Subway tastes the same
58:37 <Halcyon> It's just... bland
58:42 <Halcyon> Unless you drown it in sauce
58:43 <MrMobodies> And their floor tiles.
59:03 <Halcyon> Floor tiles?
59:18 <MrMobodies> They look plain like a public toilet.
59:29 <Halcyon> I can't say I've ever noticed it
59:36 <Halcyon> Then I again I don't go that often
59:38 <MrMobodies> One of my jokes.
59:57 <MrMobodies> I see it on the adverts and outside the shops. there are many of them in the town centres.
00:17 <T3sl4> mmm, babycorn
01:34 <MrMobodies> Oh sorry, I have look and they have changed.
02:11 <MrMobodies> The local one to me. It has a been a while. It is no longer plain they decorated it. Sorry about thtat.
02:19 <Halcyon> :P
02:24 <MrMobodies> https://www.zomato.com/photos/pv-res-6123177-r_MDU4MzAyNDA1OT
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03:25 <Halcyon> I need to go to the shops, back later guys.
03:53 <rust_collector> going to bed, good night
04:23 <rust_collector> Beef Rendang looks great
05:17 <MrMobodies> Not fund of beef but that looks good as well.: https://rasamalaysia.com/beef-rendang-recipe-rendang-daging/
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08:36 <Alexandrecvl2> Is someone here used to build the own front panels?
10:14 <MrMobodies> Solar panels?
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25:31 <coppice> rendang is good
26:37 <coppice> there's a lot of good Indonesian food.
28:11 <MrMobodies> I can see. It looks appetising.
32:09 <MrMobodies> There is a French Restaurant in my town centre. They make things in their like Chocolate and strawberry mouses and eclairs with no beef gelatine.
32:16 <MrMobodies> It's called Le Moulin.
33:51 <MrMobodies> When they make chocolate eclairs they put chocolate moose in there and not just a lousy bit of plain cream.
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40:24 <DHess_US> chocolate moose? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFSWxzXXOo
50:49 <MrMobodies> Oops spelt it wrong.
52:15 <DHess_US> You did. And I copied you so I'm in the clear.
52:34 <DHess_US> And I linked a funny video for extra credit.
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52:54 <MrMobodies> I mean I spelt it wrong. It was comical.
53:22 <MrMobodies> I never saw that film before. Now I got to see it.
54:32 <MrMobodies> Oh maybe I am tired and hallucinating. I thought you spelt it right "Mousse" but when I looked back moose.
55:34 <DHess_US> Top Secret is a great film although some of the reference migth be obscure to a non-American audience.
57:10 <coppice> I like the Pinto reference at the end
58:48 <MrMobodies> I just looked at the beginning there where he says "chocolate mousse" and he eats a cuban cigar.
59:50 <DHess_US> I owned a Pinto and never blew up. I feel cheated.
59:51 <MrMobodies> Wating a lit cigar. Maybe that is some knd of reference to the cubans.
01:23 <MrMobodies> Just going to cook my food.
39:31 <Halcyon> Can someone come and mow my lawns for me :D
41:34 <DHess_US> Plant emo grass. It cuts itself.
41:49 <Halcyon> Hahahah!
41:54 <Halcyon> I like that
44:45 <MrMobodies> Tell me a place on the high street where lads go in there and come out broke?
45:10 <Halcyon> ?
45:15 <MrMobodies> Ladbrokes
45:19 <Halcyon> Heh
45:28 <MrMobodies> A betting shop
45:35 <Halcyon> Not that I'm a betting person, but I don't trust those betting companies
45:50 <Halcyon> Heard bad things about them holding peoples money before they spend a certain amount etc...
46:42 <Halcyon> I guess most people who use those sites don't realise (or don't care) that their primary goal is to make money, not to make the punter money
47:09 <MrMobodies> Some people don't get that the literal meaning that "Fixed betting terminals" means "fixed".
47:46 <Halcyon> As in rigged?
47:51 <MrMobodies> Yes
47:59 <Halcyon> *nod*
48:02 <MrMobodies> I don't trust them.
48:15 <Halcyon> Like Poker machines, they aren't programmed in the user's favour
48:39 <MrMobodies> "Never heard of a broke bookie" is what I often hear.
48:48 <Halcyon> Quite
49:01 <Halcyon> Nor a broke car dealer
49:10 <Halcyon> Well, excluding those shonky used car ones
52:44 <MrMobodies> When I got my car I was suspicious of the car dealer. He loved the car and used it whilst his other one got put behind but the wife forced him to sell it on EBay and then I came along.
53:54 <Halcyon> Anyway Im going to go mow these lawns while I can be half-bothered
54:45 <MrMobodies> these lawns? You have many gardens.
59:17 <IoTPanic> Two drunk women just rang my bell trying to get in the building
59:41 <IoTPanic> I had to escort them out since they were looking for 110 and were trying to then break into my neighbor 104
00:24 <IoTPanic> I don't really know what else to do about this...
04:47 <damian> bleep bleep
04:48 <damian> im a robot
05:20 <MrMobodies> What kind of robot?
05:42 <coppice> a T1000
05:50 <damian> a bleeping robot. bleep bleep
08:12 <MrMobodies> Can you cut grass and rid of termites?
10:10 <damian> no, i just bleep. bleep bleep
17:28 <IoTPanic> Bleeping robot, now on sale
17:36 <IoTPanic> Now clearance
22:04 <IoTPanic> They make law mowing robots tho
22:12 <IoTPanic> lawn** jesus
29:59 * Halcyon sweats
30:04 <Halcyon> It's slightly warm outside
31:57 <MrMobodies> Freezing cold for the whole day yesterday with windy weather. My workshop is okay with the window shut. Normally I to have it open or it heat builds up quick in here.
32:41 <IoTPanic> Its pretty warm where I am, 35F
34:08 <Halcyon> It's 32C here
34:37 <MrMobodies> Like a Summers day.
34:59 <Halcyon> Funny that
46:57 * IoTPanic remembers the -11F earlier this week
48:03 <IoTPanic> Wow, people found out its 50% cheaper to buy an i5 NUC than a mac mini and it whips the mini's ass, and it can run MacOS really easily
48:16 <IoTPanic> And get twice the storage, etc
48:35 <IoTPanic> i5 instead of i3. who would have guessed
50:13 <DHess_US> Oh?
51:21 <IoTPanic> Yep. I would 100% buy that for a family member and be happy
51:49 <IoTPanic> I didint have to give tim crook my money, and they get their puny Mac ecosystem
52:38 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzRrgZUnbFY
53:01 <DHess_US> I was chatting with someone earlier to day about him wanting to get the cheapest MacOS system to practice on for work.
53:07 <DHess_US> I just forwarded your comment.
53:12 <IoTPanic> $450
53:25 <IoTPanic> i5, 8GB of RAM, 256NVMe SSD
53:31 <MrMobodies> I don't like them given to me as gettings parts can be difficult.
53:39 <IoTPanic> Newegg
53:56 <IoTPanic> Unless you are not in the US or similar....
54:04 <IoTPanic> I should have thought of that
54:20 <DHess_US> He was considering a used previous generation Mac Mini for $200
54:43 <IoTPanic> When they took the disc drive off is when I lost faith in Appe
54:49 <IoTPanic> Apple**************************
55:02 <MrMobodies> I got one some months ago.
55:09 <MrMobodies> Had to get a converter as the SSD failed
55:25 <MrMobodies> someone wanted 400 500 pounds to get the photos off
55:31 <MrMobodies> for 2 minutes worth of work
55:57 <MrMobodies> I had to use a cheap noname converter
56:18 <IoTPanic> I love how photoshop is listed as a game XD
56:47 <DHess_US> And to upgrade just pick it up, throw it in the trash, and buy a new one.
57:06 <MrMobodies> I wonder if I Apple will go after the big brands if they are caught making the SSD adaptors for their connectors.
57:06 * IoTPanic is sad because he was typing that
57:28 <IoTPanic> They cant, who are they gonna sue?
57:42 <IoTPanic> Some guy in china? iPhones were just banned there so they dont care
58:16 <MrMobodies> I mean I could only find nonames. Nothing from Startech or so.
59:03 <MrMobodies> Funny, they ban iphones and yet they make parts and third party noname parts.
59:31 <IoTPanic> They make the iPhones themselves
59:43 <IoTPanic> All Apple factories are in China
59:52 <IoTPanic> Human rights need not apply
00:03 <MrMobodies> I heard a fightor some brawl in a Foxconn factory.
01:04 <IoTPanic> There is about to be a lot of unrest in China. I would leave while I still could eaily
01:37 <IoTPanic> Communist regimes don't last. Especially around the new internet bound generation
02:12 <IoTPanic> China as a country is great, that government is something special
02:56 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://i.redd.it/vj4zo66ihbx11.jpg
04:06 <IoTPanic> Thanks reddit... dont know what we'd do without you...
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05:04 <MrMobodies> Yes, wikipedia "In May 2010, <font size="3">Shanghaiist reported that security guards had been caught beating factory workers" and yet as well for Apple Foxconn make boards for Dell, hp and many other OEMS.</font>
06:23 <IoTPanic> Yes, Apple got a lot of lash back for that
06:36 <IoTPanic> They just seemed to tolerate it
06:45 <IoTPanic> If I remember correctly
07:22 <IoTPanic> They work for something like the equivalent of $40 USD/month
07:58 <IoTPanic> While China has tons of millionaires, because nothing says communism like wealth gaps
10:36 <IoTPanic> http://11foot8.com/ Thank you internet, if anyone in this chat room needs some cheering up and need to watch other's have bad days
12:21 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I have seen those last year. Hotspots for accidents waiting to happen.</font>
12:51 <cappicard> LOL! the 11'8" bridge is hilarious. Olathe, Kansas has a similar bridge at Spruce Street just west of Kansas Avenue. It has flashing yellow lights and signs. A few idiots still ignore it.
13:24 <cappicard> and it's usually Penske truck drivers who are clueless.
13:36 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I bet that surprised the driver it bounced.</font>
13:42 <cappicard> lol
14:06 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I have a bad day by listing to most modern day pop music.</font>
14:06 <cappicard> My irc client does not like those html tags BTW.
14:20 <IoTPanic> Mine either
14:38 <IoTPanic> gtoger is aso pretty great, just people having their cars towed
14:41 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I go onto Bart Bakers channel to listen to a version that will neutralize it</font>
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16:09 <cappicard> https://goo.gl/maps/3qV2tnuwCNk :)
16:31 <cappicard> oh wow. this one is even lower... I wasn't aware of that. 11'4"
17:12 <cappicard> the last time a truck tried that stunt, it shut down Spruce St for a few hours.
17:53 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I remembered that petrol tanker that exploded in Italy.</font>
17:54 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6rlbwz</font>
19:29 <cappicard> yikes!
21:05 <IoTPanic> I get a 404
22:20 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">Daily Wail Article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6034921/Moment-petrol-tanker-explosion-left-two-dead-scores-injured-Italy.html</font>
22:52 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">Also a bridge in Italy the week after collapsed: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/world/europe/italy-genoa-bridge-collapse.html</font>
24:55 <IoTPanic> Wow, how did only the driver die, thats lucky, even though 70 wounded
25:12 <IoTPanic> Again, 404
26:02 <IoTPanic> Im goin to bed tho, night all
26:19 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">Youtube</font>
26:20 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRbYWML8EO8</font>
26:27 <T3sl4> MrMobodies: you might want to turn off your font settings
26:37 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">Aah okay</font>
26:43 <T3sl4> cappicard: penske is rental, so, yes, you are correct
26:59 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">Font settings?</font>
27:53 <cappicard> T3sl4, oh yeah. I'm very much aware of them. A Peterbilt mechanic driving a Penske truck rear-ended me in '13.
28:35 <T3sl4> MrMobodies: what client are you using
28:59 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I use several, this one an old Gaim client.</font>
29:16 <MrMobodies> <font size="3">I'll sign in on a different client.</font>
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29:28 <T3sl4> every message since your wikipedia quote has been pasting in <font> tags
29:45 <cappicard> the driver thought i was making a left turn, when in fact i was creeping up to see past a median. He initially stopped but slammed into me from the rear. pushed me into the intersection. Peterbilt actually had a body shop estimator. The estimator had the gall to ask me if i wanted to bring my car to peterbilt for repair!
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30:24 <MrMobodies> How about now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRbYWML8EO8
30:30 <T3sl4> clean :)
30:51 <cappicard> not a good idea to run and IRC client as administrator. But the changes you made are much cleaner now.
31:01 <cappicard> s/and/an/
31:32 <T3sl4> tanker wasn't fucking looking
32:03 <cappicard> oh yeah. i had to fight peterbilt's insurance for my medical bills for several months.
32:06 <T3sl4> on a similar note, most 11foot8 incidents would've been easily handled by a driver that was, you know, actually looking at the road ahead of them
32:28 <cappicard> oh that. yeah. he/seh was not paying any attentiokn
33:20 <T3sl4> uh, oh. and /then/ it explodes. that wasn't just spilled fuel from the tank, that was... probably the vehicle's fuel tank? and then the tank let loose...
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33:55 <cappicard> that tanker looked it jackknifed and then disconnected on the freeway
34:32 <T3sl4> looks like it's going pretty straight and normal up to the impact, but the video starts pretty late so who knows
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35:12 <cappicard> hard to tell, but it seemed like the driver didn't bother to slow until it was too late
35:41 <MrMobodies> Okay what about now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRbYWML8EO8
35:41 <T3sl4> asleep at the wheel? just fucked up in any number of ways? who knows
35:48 <MrMobodies> Is that clean or the same problem?
35:56 <T3sl4> that's fine :P
36:09 <T3sl4> try quoting some wikipedia again i guess?
36:17 <cappicard> it's clean. xchat is interpreting the url just fine here
36:37 <T3sl4> don't you just love in-band signalling
36:40 <MrMobodies> I have an old of Pidgin on a virtual machine. It's been left there for a long time
36:52 <MrMobodies> oh I mean Gaim and just updated it.
37:05 <T3sl4> pidgin would probably be better? idunno :P
37:10 <cappicard> ah ok. i've not used gaim nor pidgin in a while.
37:15 * T3sl4 uses pidgin, but can't recommend it very strongly
37:37 <cappicard> i haven't used IMs outside of WeChat or FB in years.
37:41 <T3sl4> its IRCing seems okay; its Telegram support is spotty, which is what i have most issues with, natch
37:44 <MrMobodies> I used it for experimenting
37:55 <MrMobodies> On Psycmuve years ago
38:13 <cappicard> for console, cant go wrong with irssi
38:21 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68xDlvm9ws
39:06 <T3sl4> drunk/drugged man standing in street, check
39:09 <cappicard> lol
39:13 <T3sl4> car not noticing what's hanging off it, check
39:17 <T3sl4> horse and wagon, check
39:21 <MrMobodies> Many strange videos out there.
39:24 <T3sl4> wagon driver falls off similarly, check
39:46 <cappicard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_Q_iAnmys :D
39:51 <T3sl4> also, russian propaganda channel, check :P
40:54 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/Tkx9txn.gif
42:40 <Halcyon> Front lawns all done \o/
42:44 <Halcyon> Time for a cold beverage
42:50 * T3sl4 lemonades Halcyon
42:59 <Halcyon> Too much sugar :)
43:03 <Halcyon> I like sparkling water
43:11 <T3sl4> "lemonade" was a euphamism for my penis
43:15 <Halcyon> Oh
43:21 <Halcyon> Then I'll take it ;-)
43:26 <T3sl4> or.....what comes out of it....
43:29 <MrMobodies> Suhar make sme tired.
43:32 <cappicard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sYJinHOvwM it is green. :)
43:33 <MrMobodies> oops
43:33 <Halcyon> Preferably not "lemonade"
44:41 <MrMobodies> The big man looks to me like a scotch egg.
44:47 <T3sl4> hehe
45:44 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/wrXMfz9.jpg
46:13 <cappicard> now we know what the enterprise runs on!
47:18 <cappicard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5l26Fs0LI (I really hate this! yes, please)
47:36 <T3sl4> i'll have mine with mint frosting
48:31 <cappicard> LMAO!
49:06 <cappicard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7ZLYPtiRs
49:43 <MrMobodies> That haircut
49:54 <MrMobodies> of the humanoid
50:04 <MrMobodies> it reminds me of George Osbourne.
50:10 <cappicard> who? worf?
50:27 <MrMobodies> A british Politician
50:35 <cappicard> oh
51:03 <MrMobodies> I looked on Google images and they seem to match to me. The hair style
51:13 <cappicard> brent spider's hair on TNG?
51:36 <cappicard> er- spiner
51:57 <MrMobodies> Here's a carton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhvLid6GS0
52:02 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/fGHmE
53:34 <cappicard> https://imgur.com/gallery/msHWc :D
53:35 <cappicard> 
54:43 <cappicard> LOL... he looks like Mr. Bean
55:57 <cappicard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knl4EYfpbFA Graham Norton's hilarious in this one!
57:16 <MrMobodies> In the cartoon his head is a bit flat https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Osborne_2015.jpg
57:28 <MrMobodies> He does look like bean
58:13 <MrMobodies> Nice prank
01:14 <MrMobodies> It made them look at themselves.
01:37 <MrMobodies> You know when someone don't realise they pooed themselves.
01:45 <MrMobodies> until they fart
02:16 <Halcyon> Charming :P
02:51 <T3sl4> holy shit internet
02:54 <T3sl4> was it that fucking hard
03:06 <T3sl4> some things are fucking impossible to search for
03:08 <T3sl4> this is 2018
03:22 <T3sl4> anyway, tens of minutes late, i just wanted to share this one https://imgur.com/gallery/KJyAiS2
07:23 <MrMobodies> No audio
07:37 <MrMobodies> Ah a parody with no audio
07:52 <T3sl4> it's an imgur tradition, adding subtitles
08:12 <T3sl4> i mean, you can't very well voice it over without a scotty to do it
09:56 <MrMobodies> It looks okay, they mimed so the words matches the mouth movement.
12:35 <MrMobodies> Voice over it? I know a channel that used cuts outs to do something similar and it was "Cassette boy" on Youtube
12:54 <T3sl4> from the other channel (10:14:02 PM) jspiros: okay, that's pretty good https://imgur.com/QkGyP8K
14:32 <MrMobodies> Arch Linux. I actually used one with a Zoneminder recording package using some old Bt878 tv cards with some cameras. It was in a college and someone got caught cheating.
15:02 <MrMobodies> It seem pretty stable at the time.
16:04 <MrMobodies> Well I have to go bed soon I have got a desk to make shelves under to the wiring tray.
16:14 <MrMobodies> For later today.
16:21 <T3sl4> cheers
17:30 <MrMobodies> Goodnight. I'll leave the client left open and so I can read the messages back.
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19:01 <Halcyon> Goodnihgt
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43:17 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AgSapZAi8
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02:51 * Ampera stares at Halcyon
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51:26 * Halcyon pokes Ampera in the eye
51:52 * Ampera pokes Halcyon in the ass
51:55 <Ampera> how do
52:21 <Halcyon> I know what you meant by that, but just know I took that comment in another direction :P
52:37 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad. Just prepping fewd
52:44 <Ampera> what direction did you take it in?
52:48 <Halcyon> Sexual
52:54 <Ampera> that's exactly how I meant it
52:57 <Halcyon> Lies
52:58 <Halcyon> :P
53:07 <Ampera> what other way is there to mean that
53:17 <Halcyon> A literal poke in the butt
53:35 * Ampera beats Halcyon silly with a large dildo
53:47 <Halcyon> Back in a moment...
53:59 <Ampera> now I'm scared
54:32 <Halcyon> I just had to check the oven, relax
55:00 <steve30> mmm, food
55:15 <Ampera> I had pizza for dinner
55:17 <Halcyon> Yeh my partners daughter has a "bring a plate to school" thing on tomorrow
55:22 <Ampera> mushroom and bacon
55:31 <Halcyon> Knowing most lazy parents, they will bring cup cakes or some kind of sugary thing
55:35 <Halcyon> I'm making mini quiches
55:45 <Halcyon> Sounds nummy Ampera
55:54 <Ampera> I'd say you have more Y than you know what to do with, Halcyon.
56:02 <Halcyon> Y ?
56:44 <Ampera> Maybe they don't teach that in Australian schools...
57:17 <Ampera> You see, humans have things called DNA, organized into groups called chromosomes, the last two of which determine biological sex, with an XX for female, and XY for male.
57:58 <Halcyon> I understand biology
58:09 <Halcyon> It's just when you say "Y"... who the fuck knows what you're on about
58:27 <Halcyon> Also, fuck you. I love cooking and I'm good at it :P
58:49 <steve30> Do chromosomes affect ones ability to make quiches?
59:26 <Ampera> I'm a good cook too, I'm just calling you gay.
00:25 <Halcyon> ^
00:33 <Halcyon> Apparently quiches are camp
00:33 <Halcyon> ?
01:25 <Ampera> Yes, they stereotypically are.
01:36 <steve30> I don't find quiches appealing
02:03 <Ampera> it's basically egg pie
02:46 <Ampera> sort of like if you started making an omelet, but just kept sticking eggs in there until it filled a pie dish
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25:11 <Halcyon> Quiche is delicious
25:53 <Ampera> That's subjective
26:16 <T3sl4> i love keesh
26:17 <Halcyon> Egg, bacon, cheese
26:20 <Halcyon> What's not to like?
26:24 <Halcyon> Oh and pastry
26:30 * T3sl4 sticks a broccoli in Halcyon
26:36 <Halcyon> I love Brocolli
26:45 <Halcyon> Wait... which end first :P
26:53 <T3sl4> one, then the other
27:00 <Halcyon> Heh
27:15 <Halcyon> I'm making this for dinner tonight: https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/chicken-pad-kee-mao/475870b2-0965-4468-ba2e-3d475fa6c57a
27:28 <T3sl4> :)
28:15 <Halcyon> I haven't made wok food for ages
35:31 * steve30 wouldn't mind some food
36:31 <T3sl4> https://youtu.be/Ay7_5Qq5WCc?t=130
46:05 <Ampera> what about kok food, Halcyon?
46:38 <Ampera> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtklZ171mNI
48:43 * T3sl4 is listening to BTSX-E2 music right now
50:46 * Ampera is listening to the voices in his head
51:26 * steve30 hugs Ampera 
51:38 * Ampera hugs steve30 
53:19 <T3sl4> hmmm, for some reason, JS doesn't like recursion doing every pixel over a 1100 x 800 image
54:04 <damian> you just need an i9 processor, T3sl4!
54:21 <damian> chicken pad kee mao is the best
54:34 <damian> there's a little asian place down the road from work, i get that at least once every couple of weeks
54:38 <T3sl4> Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
55:44 <Ampera> that's what you get for using JS
57:32 * Ampera gives T3sl4 a real good Cing to
57:50 <T3sl4> well, that's also what i get for writing a naive recurser that makes four calls to itself
58:06 <Ampera> mmm, reghretti code
58:07 <T3sl4> C isn't going to like it any better
58:37 <damian> bad programmer? :P
58:40 <damian> use mirc script
58:46 <Ampera> I mean you're trading an interpreted scripting language to a compiled full feature language, so yes, it will make it better, but perhaps not that specific issue.
58:51 <Ampera> mirc is gay
58:57 <damian> so's your mum
59:24 <Ampera> she's not gay, I'm gay.
59:31 <damian> high 5!
59:33 <Ampera> ya fat cunt
59:43 <damian> i'm not fat, my mum is.
59:55 <T3sl4> https://jamespaddock.bandcamp.com/track/scattered-ashes
00:14 * Ampera is listening to Elton John
00:27 <Ampera> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
02:27 * Ampera is shy, bi, and ready to die
02:45 <damian> that's no good
03:53 <Ampera> which part
05:47 <T3sl4> hmm, no tail call optimization either, or at least not that works for the same number of calls...
06:27 * Ampera calls T3sl4 on the telephone
07:10 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVa78-03OQ
08:01 <Ampera> ew, lady gaga
08:43 <T3sl4> ye
08:47 <damian> the ready to die part!
09:27 <Ampera> what's wrong with that damian?
09:42 <damian> i dont want you to die, i only just got to know you!
09:44 * damian cries
09:54 * T3sl4 hugs damian
10:10 <damian> thanks
10:26 <Ampera> suck it up, I enjoy the prospect of death
10:37 <damian> BUT WHY!
10:37 <Ampera> it's one of the few things in my life I get joy from looking forward to.
10:43 <Ampera> life's stanky
10:50 <damian> what do you do for work?
11:00 <Ampera> can't find a job, nobody wants to hire me
11:26 <damian> what's your skillset?
12:50 <Ampera> I'm heavily proficient in maths, up to a level of Calculus 2 (US), I have extensive knowledge on the inner workings of PC compatibles, including legacy gear, I am a rising C programmer, with the ability to pick up and learn almost anything quickly.
13:40 <Ampera> I type at around 100WPM (depends on the situation), and have a hobbyist's understanding of pin tumbler locks
14:00 <damian> you dont seem to be able to learn how to find a job
14:02 <damian> BAZINGA!
14:07 <damian> how old are you?
14:11 <Ampera> 16
14:17 <damian> seriously?
14:20 <Ampera> yes.
14:25 <damian> 16 * what?
14:30 <Ampera> 1
14:39 <damian> ok, so you ARE good at math
14:41 <Ampera> 16 years old, ask Halcyon if you don't believe me.
14:58 <damian> are you still in high school?
15:33 <Ampera> No, I've graduated with a TASC diploma (HS equivalent)
15:45 <Ampera> I also have 18 college credits of pure math
16:02 <damian> did you go to college/uni?
16:08 <damian> or get the credits through school
16:20 <Ampera> Yes, for a few classes while I was being homeschooled (replacement for math I would otherwise have at home).
16:41 <damian> what do you want to do work related?
16:53 <Ampera> I planned to go to college this semester, but NY didn't get me my TASC diploma in time, which I need to register, and I can't go next semester, because I didn't have financial aid ready in time.
17:34 <Ampera> Oh, forgot, I do have a good general grasp on some Linux and Unix environments (Arch and FreeBSD, but I can get by with Debian and friends)
17:57 <damian> that's alright
18:08 <Ampera> For work, I honestly am open to a lot. Ideally I'd like a position doing some IT work to start with, as I think that's the one skill I have the most experience in that is the most marketable.
18:11 <damian> you sound like me at your age, but i was only OK with math
18:38 <damian> but do you think you would enjoy it going forwards. workplace happiness is one of the key things to a good career
18:44 <Ampera> I quite like maths, and would be better, but I've been on a pretty much 1 year hiatus from serious maths, and it will likely be a while longer before I continue.
19:04 <damian> what languages do you know besides C?
19:11 <Ampera> In the future I want to do EE, which is half the reason I'm here, but I don't have nearly the experience to go into that.
19:38 <Ampera> I've dabbled in a bunch of languages. Previously Java was my go-to language, but I'm trying to get myself off it for various, likely obvious reasons.
19:45 <damian> you can always just create a vlog, a website, and do stupid shit with EE!
19:52 <damian> teach people how to not blow themselves up with various things
19:57 <Ampera> Can't have no good place to film things.
20:01 <damian> but at the end of every webisode, blow yourself up
20:14 <Ampera> I have pretty much all the gear I would need, and I think I could make some decent content, but I just don't have the space.
20:50 <damian> Java isn't too bad, it makes the world go 'round. back when i learn programming it was the worst, it had been around for a while but the underlying environment would just kill the computers we had
21:05 <Ampera> For other languages, I've dabbled in Assembly, x86 and 68k, but I'd need someone to help me through learning the rest of x86 assembly, as I just can't get my head around it with the free materials available to me.
21:09 <damian> i had a 500mhz computer when i first learnt Java ... that was bad!
21:18 <damian> these days it's a dog, but the cpu/mem of modern computers keep up
21:34 <Ampera> I have Java on a 120mhz P5, but it's just included with OS?2
21:36 <Ampera> *OS/2
21:58 <damian> ahh yeah, you like retro stuff dont you
22:00 <Ampera> I also do legacy computer collecting, and am currently wrapping up my PC compatible collection, looking to go into something else.
22:11 <Ampera> Oh yes, my collection is actually pretty good imo.
22:12 <damian> (@Ampera) Can't have no good place to film things.
22:21 <damian> ^ not valid, all you need is your computer desk and a sheet
22:32 <Ampera> I don't have that either.
22:37 <damian> YOU DONT HAVE SHEETS?!
22:41 <Ampera> My room is packed, and I would have literally no place to put anything.
22:42 <damian> or a kitchen bench
22:51 <Ampera> The walls are also all orange, which aren't exactly great.
22:57 <Ampera> No can do, too many people and too many things.
24:11 <Ampera> I was thinking of doing some contract work, I literally have 6 months of free time, and can get papers allowing me to work full time from the state.
24:31 <Ampera> However I just don't know where I'd get started, who I would do things for, or any of that.
25:34 <damian> do you live with parents?
26:04 <damian> have a look at airtasker, money isn't good for programming .. but it's good experinece
26:19 <Ampera> Yes, unfortunately I do have to live with my parents.
26:52 <damian> learn internet security and then do code breaking, make money from that
27:02 <damian> your brain is still a sponge, it's perfect
27:12 <Ampera> If I was working internationally, I'd rather it be for something really good, or for someone I know.
27:37 <Ampera> Not a big fan of white hat stuff, I've learned through hard experience to stay away from that shit.
27:39 <damian> yeah, but money is money, and experience is experience!
28:05 <Ampera> I'm not even sure if I could be hired internationally, or how that would work.
28:16 <damian> my first actual IT experience was running shell/webhosting servers for a few guys on AustNet
28:24 <damian> no pay, but i got free internet, free web/shell
28:36 <Ampera> To what laws would I need to follow (presumably Australia's) and do I need to be allowed to work in Australia?
28:43 <damian> and since then, not much linux has changed.. so good experience :P
29:01 <Ampera> I wouldn't mind doing that, and I've actually run some small servers for people.
29:12 <Ampera> It is experience, but I need money right now, not experience.
29:22 <damian> you can work for australian people without anything, if you wanted to COME to australia to work you need credentials
29:28 <Ampera> Experience I can get on my own time with bumming around doing random stuff, which I do quite a bit.
29:44 <Ampera> My question is what is the wage law situation, do they pay me NY rates or Australian rates?
29:49 <Ampera> because NY rates are probably higher
29:58 <Ampera> so it might be a good idea to find work local.
30:07 <damian> what kind of job are you talking about?? :\
30:18 <Ampera> no clue, but my question would be hourly
30:50 <Ampera> NYS rates are USD 11.10/hr as of next year.
31:11 <damian> if you managed to find a job based in australia that you could do remotely, it would be in australian .. but if it's an actual proper job, you'd still need australian credentials to work it, because of the employers requirements as an employer
31:55 <Ampera> Then that's why, unless it's casual work for a friend, or something really big, I'd rather get a US/EU job
31:58 <damian> thats' where things like airtasker are great, they pay for a service, not personel, so they dont have to worry about hourly rates, super, tax, etc
32:12 <Ampera> Ah, so it's contract work.
32:24 <damian> yeah, they put out a contract for $xxx you fulfill it
32:51 <damian> but minimum wage in australia is $18.29/hr which is $13.14/us
32:54 <Ampera> I'll consider looking into it, but I'd rather find something a bit more local, perhaps personal.
33:13 <Ampera> Yeah, and after conversion fees and stuff, that's probably around our 11.10/hr
33:23 <Ampera> also Australian taxes are probably WAY higher
33:27 <damian> and that's minimum wage. there isn't an IT job i know of that pays minimum wage
33:47 <damian> the only people who pay minimum are maccas
34:05 <Ampera> mmm, upside down Mickey D's
34:20 <damian> yeah, we call it Waccas here
34:31 <Ampera> no clue why
34:52 <timk> lol i always wondered what mickey d's meant
34:53 <damian> and airtasker is international, a lot of philo/indians do it for cash
34:56 <timk> the penny had never dropped
35:00 <damian> because obiously it's a lot harder to find work in those countries
35:14 <damian> wow tim!
35:23 <damian> hey tim, you do software development or something these days right?
35:34 <timk> i do security testing
35:42 <Ampera> I'd rather find something outside of software dev if possible
35:57 <Ampera> I can do it, but I think I have better skills that will be more useful to people, and less of a risk on my part
36:22 <Ampera> I haven't done enough programming to consider it worth a whole lot.
36:34 <timk> i break things rather than fix them
36:42 <Ampera> My dad does that for a living
36:43 <Ampera> QA
37:22 <timk> mine is more specialised, i do research and penetration testing
37:51 <damian> what's your rough $$ annual
38:04 <timk> i get paid fairly well
38:15 <damian> six figures, wow!
38:16 <damian> :P
38:26 <timk> although i have some decent creds
39:00 <timk> this conversation is kind of awkward hah
39:06 <damian> hahah
39:08 <timk> happy to take it to pm
39:15 <damian> nah it's all good
39:50 <damian> airtasker also has every kind of job Ampera, have a broken door knob? chuck it on there! need someone to walk your dog? chuck it on there!
39:54 <damian> i wonder if sexual favours are on there
40:05 <Ampera> age of consent in NY is a conditional 16
40:10 <Ampera> so there is a limited age range
40:25 <Ampera> also prostitution is not legal here.
40:45 <damian> so i've seen from every movie that features new york
41:29 <Ampera> I'm in the capital of New York, not NYC
41:31 <damian> prostitution is legal here, but it's regulated and pretty strict. you can't do street walking, you have to be part of an established brothel, and to be a brothel you have to be marked as such .. for example, an asian massage place with a happy ending is illegal
41:34 <damian> ahhh
43:42 <damian> but hey all i'm saying is that there's work out there if you need money and have some kind of skills (hell, even if you dont), you just have to be looking for it, and not be too much of a snob to take odd jobs
44:20 <Ampera> I know there's stuff out there, but I need to find it, and while I appreciate the suggestion, not sure if looking to Australia is an amazing idea.
44:36 <timk> australia is an awesome place
44:38 <Ampera> I have US and EU citizenship, so I can get jobs in a lot of countries.
44:55 <damian> i didnt say australia, lol.. you said australia
44:56 <Ampera> y'all can't use a swiss army knife in public, which makes me sad
44:59 <timk> but if you were looking to work in a big city, forget sydney imo
45:26 <damian> all of my ^^ above is generic to Earth first world
45:40 <damian> where are you tim?
45:50 <timk> brisbane
45:54 <damian> ahh yaeh
45:55 <Ampera> no, you said airtasker, which is an Australian company
46:00 <Ampera> with Australian jobs
46:21 <timk> ~2.5m population, awesome weather (if you can put up with a bit of humidity)
46:46 <Ampera> I don't think I'll be leaving the US any time soon, as I'm thinking about buying a gun, which isn't taken too kindly in a lot of countries.
46:53 <damian> weird, you're right. i always thought it was international. there's others out there like it then, because i used to talk to people who use something for getting jobs done like airtasker
47:06 <damian> no way australia has an original idea like that which isn't adopted by other countries :P
47:34 <Ampera> of course not, Australia has a national ban on original ideas.
47:37 <damian> guns are fine in Australia, as long as you're legal for it. you can't carry it on you though
47:43 <damian> but why would you need to
47:45 <Ampera> in fact they have a ban on unapproved ideas in general
47:51 <Ampera> what guns though?
48:02 <Ampera> I'm planning on buying an M1 Garand.
48:04 <damian> you can pretty much own anything that isn't carried by the military
48:12 <Ampera> that is carried by the military.
48:14 <damian> but you can get guns that are the same as military, just not carried by them
48:49 <Ampera> The primary issue with going to Australia is I'm not a citizen and do not have permission to live there, whereas I am a US/German citizen.
49:06 <damian> yeah that's fair enough
49:09 <damian> working visa!
49:24 <Ampera> my question is do you need a gun permit to have a weapon in Australia?
49:32 <damian> yeah you do
49:36 <Ampera> not in the US.
49:49 <damian> because giving a gun to anyone who wants them without vetting is fucking stupid
49:53 <Ampera> NY is a bit stingier than other states, and there is a background check.
50:14 <Ampera> there is a vetting process, I guess.
50:30 <Ampera> and you can be barred from buying a gun (even in Texas) for various reasons, like trying to kill yourself
50:56 <damian> well, that's a start i guess ;)
51:49 <Ampera> I do like Garands though...
52:01 * Ampera has had a Garand on his mind for the past few days
52:26 <damian> as long as it doesn't cause things to go THROUGH your mind/head
52:56 <Ampera> first rule of owning a gun, don't point it at anything you don't intend to shoot
53:07 <damian> yup
53:11 <Ampera> well there's a lot of first rules of owning a gun, probably the best first rule of owning a gun is have a place to put it
53:39 <Ampera> Not sure what the laws on that are, but I've considered possibly storing a Garand in my car if I get a Garand.
53:47 <Ampera> that is if I have better place to put it.
54:06 <damian> did you see the skit from sacha baron cohen on guns talking to your gun leader?
54:15 <Ampera> no, and I don't want to.
54:22 <damian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDULmIOqwA8
54:24 <damian> it's so funny though
01:18 <Ampera> mmm, I love trading pokemon to myself
06:44 <T3sl4> there we go, had to rewrite the fill algorithm rather seriously
06:53 <T3sl4> now it uses a natural array stack at least
08:47 <T3sl4> still, 38 meg peak heap usage...
09:31 <T3sl4> sure is nice having a built in profiler tho
23:42 <damian> what are you working on?
25:27 <T3sl4> http://www.seventransistorlabs.com/compr.html (load a small image file into it, it does a couple not very useful things)
28:41 <damian> what's the heat map represent?
28:58 <T3sl4> nothing right now, so it's just a random recolor :P
29:22 <damian> hahahaha
29:25 <T3sl4> it's eventually going to encode a mostly flat colored image into solid rectangles that are easy to store, and bitmap rectangles that are easy to draw (but not cheaper to store)
29:35 <damian> and pixelates it
29:58 <T3sl4> it was pixelated to begin with, you can just see them better now :P
30:00 <damian> i saw a site a while ago which did a sampling of an image and checked it for edits
30:13 <damian> so if someone photoshopped an image, it would outline what has been changed vs. the original imag
30:14 <damian> e
31:00 <T3sl4> i forget what that was based on, probably frequency content?
44:09 <Halcyon> Foom
44:21 * Ampera explodes Halcyon 
44:38 <Halcyon> I liked it better when you were poking my butt
45:06 * Ampera smashes dat ass
46:03 <Halcyon> :D \o/
46:24 <Ampera> I guess that's why they call it the blues.
46:39 <Halcyon> Good song
46:43 <Halcyon> Love Elton
46:59 <Ampera> A nice depressing song.
47:11 <Halcyon> I don't think it's meant to be depressing
47:14 <Ampera> I do enjoy songs that make me feel worse about my life.
47:19 <Halcyon> Music like that puts me in a good mood
47:29 <Ampera> As does it to I.
47:41 <Halcyon> Game of CAH gentlemen?
48:57 <Halcyon> DogWomble you about?
49:02 <DogWomble> yeah, i'm here :)
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49:23 <Halcyon> I've been on my feet all day, I need to unwind
49:24 <Ampera> My audio might be a bit shit, because I broke my headset adapter
49:34 <Ampera> so it will be from my tablet's internal mic
49:39 <Ampera> but join up, I'll get a game going
49:56 <Ampera> T3sl4, IoTPanic, y'all up for that?
49:56 <Halcyon> Cool
50:08 <Halcyon> I'll message my mate as well
53:18 <Ampera> https://xyzzy.clrtd.com/zy/gameold.jsp#game=2
53:22 <Ampera> watermelon
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07:24 <Halcyon> Meow
10:50 <Halcyon> Ampera you still awake?
29:57 <Ampera> Halcyon, yeah
30:03 <Ampera> was just talking with my grandfather.
30:03 <Halcyon> :)
30:07 <Halcyon> He is up too ?
31:09 <Halcyon> Isn't it like 0430 there?
33:31 <Ampera> it's 5:35
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