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00:24:16 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 29th 12pm (Damalon,1-5) || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:24:16 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Sep 24 18:24:09 2014
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02:30:44 <s_gmusic> I have enough crap on my computer. don't need to download a thing to spend money I ain't got for stuff this laptop can't handle. :\
03:02:46 <Avatar> yo
03:04:10 <Damalon01> hey Av
03:04:26 <Damalon01> have you got a minute?
03:06:14 <Avatar> soitanly
03:07:33 <Damalon01> i got Jason's OK so im ready to setup the next game im gonna run on Balligs site
03:09:17 <Damalon01> would Sunday at midday be ok with you?
03:11:54 <Avatar> ummm
03:11:57 <Avatar> saturday is better
03:12:02 <Avatar> do you want sunday
03:12:54 <Damalon01> hmm i might be able to manage Saturday
03:13:18 <Damalon01> ill call jason, be a minute
03:13:21 <Avatar> playing on sundays just feels like the game eats the weekend
03:15:52 <Avatar> ready to be scheduled when you've got it sorted
03:18:03 <Damalon01> hes not answering his phone.
03:19:23 <Avatar> does he respond to texts
03:19:39 <Avatar> mate sometimes my phone rings and I go goddamn who is calling me this time ! and dont' answer it
03:19:57 <Avatar> businesses should use messaging
03:20:08 <Damalon01> usually he answers if hes able. ill try again a bit later.
03:24:46 <Damalon01> ill be back later
03:32:46 <Avatar> did you guys finish way of the wicked?
03:46:21 <s_gmusic> so... just finished watching Transformers 4. no worse than the first trilogy. John Goodman did a voice for it, so that's a plus. came across as a bit preachy, though.
03:46:52 <Avatar> I can't bring myself to watch any of the transformers sequels
03:47:02 <Avatar> even though I thought the first one was decent
03:50:57 <s_gmusic> Watch the 4th, if you think you can. it takes place about 5 years after the trilogy, so there's a plot connection to get it started, then it goes on its own.
03:57:09 <Avatar> well I can watch any of them
03:57:18 <Avatar> but the 2nd and 3rd got some bad press
03:57:37 <Avatar> I'm not sure if they were good or not, I just don't care about them
03:57:49 <Avatar> I didn't really care about transformers in the first place, I was surprised I liked the first one as much as I did
04:22:30 <Damalon01> back and I still havent gotten through to Jason
04:22:42 <Damalon01> is it possible for you to play on sunday Av?
04:22:51 <Avatar> yeah
04:23:08 <Damalon01> ok could you schedule the game for midday sunday please?
04:23:27 <Avatar> done
04:23:32 <Damalon01> thank you
04:27:02 <Damalon01> Will you take your pally Judas? is he level 4?
04:32:25 <Avatar> ah, oops, no, he's 3 still
04:32:33 <Avatar> my 4 on the site is a 3, I'll change that later
04:33:01 <Damalon01> ahhh
04:50:16 <Damalon01> Youre gonna run Scars of a Third Crusade Tony? have you run it before?
04:50:48 <Avatar> no but I played it with you
04:51:10 <Avatar> the slot zeroes don't necessarily mean the GM of that game will GM it again for realzies
04:51:17 <Avatar> just someone at that table
04:54:18 <Damalon01> okey dokey
04:54:48 <Damalon01> i was gonna say if youre gonna run it, some aduvce: check out the forums for it on the Paizo site
04:55:09 <Damalon01> they talk alot about preps you can make and holes in the scenario
04:55:23 <Mekkis> Umm.. In Pathfinder, is the ethereal plane coexistent with the material?
04:55:59 <Mekkis> Damalon01, it's a good starting point, but no substitute for running it before you're required to at a con.'
05:02:27 <Damalon01> ayup youre Mekkis
05:02:46 <Damalon01> right
05:05:24 <Avatar> yeah man I always look at the forums
05:05:34 <Avatar> when I go to work, I don't really work, I just go to paizo.com
05:05:56 <Avatar> I used to get lost on paizo.com but now it is like second nature
05:11:22 <Damalon01> lol wish i could get work like that
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06:06:35 <Damalon01> well im off
06:07:52 <Brunius> <Brunius> Anyone want 10% off stronghold crusader 2?
06:07:53 <Brunius> <Brunius> or 50% off hotline miami?
06:07:57 <Brunius> on steam to be clear
06:19:23 <Avatar> there's free games on there!
06:36:03 <Avatar> never heard of stronghold
06:36:12 <Avatar> hotline miami is a shithot game that I think everyone already has
06:40:13 <s_gmusic> don't got it. don't got steam
06:43:47 <Avatar> what do you mean you don't got steam
06:43:51 <Avatar> everyone's got steam
07:09:55 <s_gmusic> nope
07:14:28 <Avatar> mate get it
07:27:55 <Avatar> yeah stonelords is better than those
07:28:05 <Damalon01> interesting
07:28:07 <Avatar> the mythic stuff at the end of siege was shit
07:28:18 <Damalon01> yeah i really hated that
07:28:23 <Avatar> race for the runecarved key had a good plot, but it was messy
07:28:40 <Damalon01> i hated the last 1/4 of it, i hated it so very much
07:28:51 <Avatar> yeah there is no mythic garbage in stonelords
07:28:58 <Damalon01> well thats good
07:29:05 <Avatar> I don't think it really feels 'unfair'
07:29:08 <Avatar> at any point
07:29:20 <Damalon01> ill talk to my mate bazz and see what he think/wants to do
07:29:31 <Avatar> not to say it isn't tough, it is
07:29:34 <Avatar> but not 'unfair' tough
07:29:57 <Damalon01> yeah seems like specials are always made to be as challenging as possible
07:30:32 <Avatar> if you have a table of 6 and you're prepared it should be alright
07:31:00 <Damalon01> if i play ill probs play with mah cleric, my strongest pfs character atm
07:33:41 <Damalon01> hey your gonna play 'Trail by Machine' with mah Av!
07:33:53 <Avatar> yeah that is a good table
07:34:30 <Avatar> ulzef and daniel, with john d GMing
07:34:57 <Avatar> paths we choose is the other important one to play
07:35:03 <Avatar> but that's faction dependent
07:35:15 <Avatar> I don't really understand how it will be organised
07:35:24 <Damalon01> Im gonna play Paths at an online convention a week after Unicon
07:35:35 <Avatar> what online convention???????
07:35:41 <Damalon01> VirtuaCon
07:35:48 <Avatar> that sounds familiar
07:36:01 <Damalon01> i played at VirtuaCon last year
07:36:10 <Damalon01> its chaotic but fun
07:36:17 <Damalon01> and theres prizes!!
07:36:45 <Avatar> yeah online cons seem great for prizes
07:36:45 <Damalon01> i won a prize for best player last year, 3 months free membership on rolld20
07:36:52 <Avatar> I seem to win something everytime I play in one
07:36:56 <Damalon01> :)
07:37:33 <Avatar> is it on warhorn?
07:38:08 <Damalon01> no i dont think VirtuaCon is on warhorn
07:38:46 <Damalon01> its not just PFS, in fact PFS seems minimal this year
07:39:01 <Damalon01> http://www.rpggeek.com/wiki/page/Virtuacon14
07:39:06 <Damalon01> if your interested
07:40:06 <Avatar> this seems very badly organised
07:40:32 <Damalon01> like i said chaotic
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08:12:46 <Avatar> I really can't make head or tail of this
08:12:57 <Mekkis> most f2p games available on steam are also available elsewhere
08:13:42 <Avatar> http://time.is/UTC
08:13:44 <Avatar> that's pretty cool
08:15:19 <Avatar> oh right, it's all part of the G+ community
08:17:27 <Damalon01> yeah, signing up is all handled on G+
08:17:45 <Avatar> some aren'a
08:17:47 <Avatar> some aren't
08:18:30 <Damalon01> i do like the chart they have on RPGgeek to help explain the timezones with which game slot your looking for
08:18:43 <Avatar> 7am game is a bit harsh
08:18:49 <Avatar> and people yell at me when I run games at 9am !
08:18:52 <Damalon01> the whole thing is designed to be going 24 hours
08:19:01 <Damalon01> yeah!
08:19:12 <Damalon01> some of the games start at like 5 am for aus
08:19:20 <Damalon01> like i said 24 hour Con
08:19:41 <Avatar> any idea where the GM is located
08:19:44 <Avatar> or the other players
08:19:50 <Damalon01> since its run for a worldwide viewpoint, so theres games for all timezones
08:20:03 <Damalon01> multiple gms and timezones
08:20:12 <Damalon01> depeding on what game your talking about
08:20:17 <Avatar> 6-05
08:20:26 <Damalon01> argh i think thats america
08:20:32 <Avatar> I could only find that one and paths we choose
08:20:55 <Damalon01> theres a game of the Confirmation too but its at like 5 am or something
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08:21:37 <Avatar> you can get confirmation run anytime
08:21:42 <Avatar> replayable tier 1
08:21:54 <Avatar> or 2
08:22:17 <Avatar> what level are your guys
08:24:18 <Damalon01> Jason has a level 2 Magus and Bazz has a level 3 druid and level 1 bard
08:24:38 <Damalon01> i was thinking about running the confirmation again for jason before he hits level 3
08:24:47 <Damalon01> so he can get his free watfinder
08:24:57 <Damalon01> wayfinder
08:25:33 <Avatar> I've only run it once before, haven't actually played it yet
08:25:51 <Avatar> I've got a level 1 investigator I can dig up I think
08:26:12 <Avatar> ug no he's level 2
08:26:35 <Avatar> too many characters
08:26:47 <Avatar> must be something else in the ACG that I can play
08:27:29 <Avatar> I'm not a huge fan of the other classes
08:27:39 <Avatar> arcanist, shaman and investigator were the only ones that grabbed me
08:28:04 <Damalon01> hehehe none of the ACG classes have grabbed me
08:28:52 <Avatar> you can't tell me the investigator doesn't sound interesting
08:29:19 <Avatar> or at least one of the million archetypes
08:29:34 <Avatar> maybe a bolt ace
08:30:44 <Avatar> FINALLY !
08:30:48 <Avatar> now what did I have to ask you
08:31:04 <Avatar> you recommended the unsworn shaman didn't you steven
08:31:18 <Steven> did i?
08:31:23 <Avatar> was that you
08:31:46 <Avatar> or was it a different one
08:32:25 <Avatar> ????????
08:32:55 <Steven> iunno
08:33:09 <Avatar> are you okay
08:33:20 <Steven> yeah... just had a migraine all day.
08:33:39 <Avatar> ug
08:34:43 <Steven> i dont remember exactly why i suggested this one.
08:35:33 <Avatar> I can't tell if sacrificing some of the spirit stuff is a big deal
08:35:40 <Avatar> because it seems like you get it anyway
08:36:29 <Steven> i like the spirit guide
08:36:42 <Avatar> and some people are suggesting you can't take anything that requires you to have the hex ability, because it has minor spirit which "replaces hex", even though it still gives you hexes
08:46:07 <Steven> yeah spirit guide is probably my favorite archetype from the ACG
08:46:55 <Avatar> do you mean spirit warden
08:47:17 <Steven> no
08:47:28 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/archetypes/paizo---oracle-archetypes/spirit-guide
08:47:46 <Avatar> no I am playing a shaman !
08:48:44 <Steven> so...
08:49:00 <Steven> spirit guide is pretty awesome.
08:49:15 <Avatar> I am pretty sure you recommended unsworn shaman
08:49:23 <Steven> i dont remember doin that.
08:49:26 <Avatar> this sounds like something of a devious trick
08:55:28 <Steven> i just dont remember suggesting it mang.
08:55:32 <Steven> happens.
09:05:32 <Steven> my character is done!
09:05:34 <Steven> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwFtjAun89SiQVBaRFJ2a2ttUVE/edit?usp=sharing
09:05:57 <Steven> for kingmaker.
09:44:37 <Mekkis> What do you think about this:
09:44:38 <Mekkis> Belle's Mass Tattoo Removal (Necromancy [good])
09:44:38 <Mekkis> Bard 2, Cleric/oracle 2, Summoner 2
09:44:38 <Mekkis> Casting Time: 1 standard action
09:44:38 <Mekkis> Components: V, S
09:44:38 <Mekkis> Range: Medium (100' + 10' per level)
09:44:39 <Mekkis> Targets: One creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30' apart.
09:44:41 <Mekkis> Duration: 1 round/level
09:44:43 <Mekkis> Save: Will negates
09:44:45 <Mekkis> SR: yes
09:44:47 <Mekkis> A wave of holy energy surrounds any magical tattoos on the targets, and burns them off, and replaces them with new, unscarred skin.
10:03:13 <Steven> at 6th level I'll do 1d4+12+1d6+5d6 damage.
10:04:33 <Steven> with a +12 to attack.
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13:58:53 <ishmael> yo yo yo
13:59:12 <ishmael> sup nerds
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15:12:58 <Steven> sup
15:17:04 <s_gmusic> yo
15:17:38 <Steven> last fight in RotRL... killed 3 people.
15:18:00 <s_gmusic> last as in recent or as in campaign final?
15:18:10 <Steven> the finale
15:18:25 <s_gmusic> wow.
15:18:53 <s_gmusic> we just got to... Thistletop(?) last time we played.
15:19:41 <Steven> yeah, they got the big bad down to half life and he was like... well.... fuck it... /cast 9th level spells
15:20:16 <Steven> dropped 2 people with a delicious 200 damage cause they failed their save.
15:20:48 <Steven> fight lasted 11 rounds.
15:22:17 <Brunius> http://assbutts-and-pudding.tumblr.com/post/88372786986/steamchef-thatonegirlontumbler
15:22:23 <Brunius> I have no idea what I just listened to
15:22:57 <Steven> what and now you want to inflict it upon us?
15:23:07 <Brunius> it's not terrible
15:23:30 <Steven> nah..... i'm not gonna risk it.
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15:38:25 <s_gmusic> it's safe, steven. it's a cover of "We Will Rock You" by Max Raabe & Palast Orchester.
15:38:33 <Brunius> he's gone
15:38:33 <s_gmusic> not horrible at all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQLXWjN8MI
15:38:35 <s_gmusic> blarg
15:39:19 <s_gmusic> and I was all " I can use that new app I have for this!"
15:41:19 <s_gmusic> Sony TrackID is the best app I've found for finding out about music. more accurate and faster than the one built in to android.
15:41:29 <Brunius> I found both useless
15:41:38 <s_gmusic> oh?
15:42:11 <s_gmusic> what do you use, then? or do you not bother?
15:45:29 <Brunius> don't bother
15:49:16 <s_gmusic> this works well, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bPh9CitHJs
16:49:19 <Mekkis> !spell borrow skill
16:49:20 <diebot> Mekkis, BORROW SKILL transmutation ([]) bard 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: S Duration: up to 1 round/level (see description) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
16:49:20 <diebot> You borrow one of the target's known skills. After touching the subject, you can make a single check with the chosen skill using the subject's skill ranks, but modified by your own key ability. If you take longer than the spell's duration to make the check or the check requires more time, then it fails and you must use your own skill ranks (if
16:49:20 <diebot> any). If the borrowed skill is a class skill for you, you gain the +3 bonus on checks using that skill.
16:49:34 <Mekkis> !spell invigorate
16:49:35 <diebot> Mekkis, INVIGORATE illusion ([figment]) bard 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V Duration: 10 minutes/level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
16:49:35 <diebot> This spell banishes feelings of weariness. For the duration, the subject takes no penalties from the fatigued or exhausted conditions. The effect of invigorate is merely an illusion, however, not a substitute for actual rest or respite. When the spell ends, the subject takes 1d6 points of nonlethal damage, along with the return of the original
16:49:35 <diebot> condition(s). A creature can be under the effects of only one invigorate spell at a time; if it is cast a second time on that creature, the first immediately ends.
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18:11:31 <Avatar> james has a scroll of borrow skill and he's never used it
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20:02:09 <Steven> suuuuuuuup
20:02:41 <Avatar> sup
20:03:07 <s_gmusic> still can't sleep
20:03:17 <Steven> notta much
20:03:32 <s_gmusic> it should not be 5:02a. last time I looked at a clock it was barely 4a
20:03:36 <Mekkis> so, 5e is... interesting
20:03:47 <Avatar> is it just me or are american commercials are more annoying
20:03:51 <s_gmusic> dont' do it, mekkis!
20:03:57 <Mekkis> why not?
20:04:00 <Avatar> is it good
20:04:01 <Steven> i think all comercials are annoying.
20:04:12 <Avatar> american ones are worse though
20:04:22 <Brunius> yeah they are
20:04:22 <Steven> sure sure.
20:04:23 <Avatar> the voiceovers are annoying
20:04:59 <s_gmusic> on top of the voice overs, throw in prescription drug commercials. no need for those.
20:05:36 <Avatar> Mekkis: good?
20:07:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, I had fun playing it, but I'm not sure if it's because of the system
20:07:49 <Steven> i wasnt particularly impressed with the syste
20:07:52 <Steven> system
20:08:14 <Avatar> what parts of it are interesting
20:08:16 <Steven> it is like any game though, if you've good people playing it with you, you'll have fun.
20:09:01 <Mekkis> it's rather simplified - some things are interesting though. We did have a TPK :S
20:09:10 <Mekkis> Steven, yeah, which is why I'm reserving my judgement
20:14:08 <Mekkis> I do like Forgotten Realms :)
20:21:55 <Steven> yeah forgotten realms had a pretty good backstory
20:41:15 <Mekkis> has*
20:43:18 <Steven> had
20:43:39 <Mekkis> they haven't *changed* the backstory have they?
20:44:20 <Steven> their later additions to the story failed to impress me.
20:45:47 <Mekkis> ah
20:46:13 <Steven> it is a lot like PFS and numeria
20:46:43 <Mekkis> Do you enforce the technologist BS?
20:47:13 <Steven> i am required to Run as written.
20:47:53 <Mekkis> It's not written into any of the scenarios...
20:47:55 <Mekkis> also...
20:50:33 <Mekkis> Guide p33 says stuff regarding that
20:58:14 <Avatar> the thing that bothers me is that they've actually said it was never intended when the scenarios were written
20:58:22 <Avatar> but still they've left it as it is ???
20:59:40 <Avatar> the best I can think to do with it is to maybe somehow make the experience of working it out as humourous as possible while they discover it
20:59:58 <Avatar> I have no idea, I haven't read a season 6 scenario yet
21:01:38 <Mekkis> GMs may use other Pathfinder RPG [other than the core rulebook] sources to add flavor to the scenario, but may not change the mechanics of encounters.
21:01:48 <Mekkis> p33 of the Guide
21:03:41 <Avatar> suggesting what
21:04:07 <Avatar> oh here's an interesting question for you
21:04:26 <Avatar> if a PC selected "sign language" as one of their languages from linguistics, would you let them use it with other players who also had sign language?
21:04:33 <Mekkis> The Technology guide cannot change mechanics of encounters.
21:04:39 <Mekkis> Sure.
21:05:01 <Avatar> apparently that is in dispute
21:05:04 <Brunius> why?
21:05:12 <Brunius> regional variations?
21:05:14 <Avatar> because 'sign language' isn't listed as a legal language anywhere, it must be illegal !
21:05:16 <Brunius> ...
21:05:24 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2riwj?Are-there-PFS-Legal-Sign-Language-options
21:05:28 <Brunius> There's a reason we play a tabletop RPG and not a computer RPG
21:05:39 <Avatar> yeah a-men
21:05:40 <Brunius> It's because you can fuzz the rules and make illegal options legal if it makes sense
21:05:57 <Avatar> then they started talking about 'well if you can make up a language, what's to stop someone making up their own feat ?'
21:05:58 <Mekkis> Why are people making so much fuss. Lip-reading is specifically called out as being legal.
21:06:00 <Brunius> It's because sometimes you don't want an exact mechanic
21:06:04 <Avatar> like REALLY?
21:07:08 <Avatar> I don't like having to put what seems like such an obvious thing to me into a logical fair argument
21:07:25 <Avatar> I just want to slap them
21:08:12 <Avatar> I mean this is basically why some people don't like to play society
21:08:41 <Mekkis> What? the politics?
21:08:54 <Avatar> the idiots who read into minute RAW or bust
21:09:14 <Avatar> one of the people in that thread was a VL arguing against me
21:10:03 <Mekkis> VLs can be jerks, you know
21:10:16 <Avatar> I'm finding concedeing the point with a VO is usually folly, because they're often wrong
21:10:50 <Avatar> they've got a strange position, because they're really there to organise events, not make rulings
21:10:59 <Avatar> yet they're expected to make rulings, I think?
21:11:07 <Mekkis> To be fair, I think lip-reading shouldn't be legal.
21:11:15 <Avatar> why
21:11:42 <Avatar> because it counterbalances deaf oracles too much?
21:12:39 <Mekkis> The only reason it exists is for deaf oracles to be playable. I don't think that deaf oracles really have that much of a place in PFS - they're the ideal choice for the player who wants to powergame their character, and couple it with an excuse to not roleplay.
21:13:27 <Avatar> it does wreck it a bit
21:14:51 <Mekkis> because they are extremely powerful. You can cast silence, nullify pretty much every opposing spellcaster, and still spam spells with impunity.
21:18:01 <Mekkis> There's a reason people call Silence lesser Antimagic Field
21:27:53 <Steven> they're dumb?
22:10:49 <Mekkis> it is functionally very similar
22:21:44 <Damalon01> ohai
22:28:04 <Steven> tweeked my character for kingmaker tomorrow
22:28:19 <Steven> Kensei bladebound magus.
22:28:58 <Steven> went dex based instead of str based.
22:36:04 <Mekkis> looks like our group for Reign of Winter will consist of three gnomish druids
22:37:03 <Steven> that seems pretty crazy
22:37:12 <Steven> at least you'll get along with the fey
22:38:17 <Mekkis> I suppose so
23:40:30 <Mekkis> I think the druid is an underrepresented class
23:41:27 <Brunius> I agree
23:44:36 <Steven> i like me a druid.
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