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18:42 <s_gmusic> So... could someone clarify buying and inscribing scrolls into a spellbook in PFS? something about it is not 'clicking' for me.
20:51 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, you can do it, but it's not worth it.
21:00 <Mekkis> Instead, just pay for 'spell access'
25:17 <Mekkis>  Can I scribe spells from another PC's spellbook into my own? What about gaining spells via scrolls found during an adventure?
25:17 <Mekkis>     Players are welcome to exchange spells with each other during an adventure. They must still follow all the normal rules as put forth in the Core Rulebook and their class descriptions (for instance, an alchemist can scribe from a wizard, but not vice-versa) and they must not bog the session down.
25:17 <Mekkis>     Similarly, scrolls found during an adventure can be used to add spells to spellbooks and similar class features (such as a witch's familiar), using the normal rules for doing so. Scrolls used in this way during an adventure do not need to be purchased, but are still consumed as normal.
25:17 <Mekkis>     With either method, the GM should sign off on the spells gained (after witnessing successful skill checks) on affected players' chronicle sheets. All other methods of gaining new spells (such as by gaining a level or purchasing access to an NPC's spellbook) function as described in the Core Rulebook and relevant class descriptions.
25:17 <Mekkis>     In the rare instance of a wizard charging a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks, this fee is equal to half the cost to write the spell into a spellbook (see Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook). Rare and unique spells do not change the fee in PFS.
27:06 <Mekkis> !hp 10d8m2
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28:01 <Mekkis> !hp 10d8m2
28:02 <diebot> Mekkis, 73
30:31 <Mekkis> !spell share glory
30:35 <diebot> Mekkis, SHARE GLORY transmutation ([]) bard 2, cleric/oracle 3, druid 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 2, witch 3 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one non-mythic creature/3 levels Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Mythic Adventures
30:36 <diebot> You imbue the targets with a fraction of your mythic nature. They count as mythic creatures for the purpose of path abilities, spells, and other effects that function differently for mythic creatures. This doesn't grant the targets mythic tiers or any uses of mythic power; it merely gives them a greater advantage when others use abilities that work
30:36 <diebot> differently for mythic creatures. You must be at least a 1st-tier mythic character to cast this spell.
30:38 <Mekkis> !spell misdirection
30:39 <diebot> Mekkis, MISDIRECTION illusion (glamer[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, summoner 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature or object, up to a 10-ft. cube in size Comp: V, S Duration: 1 hour/level Save: none or Will negates; see text SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
30:40 <diebot> By means of this spell, you misdirect the information from divination spells that reveal auras (detect evil, detect magic, discern lies, and the like). On casting the spell, you choose another object within range. For the duration of the spell, the subject of misdirection is detected as if it were the other object. Neither the subject nor the other
30:40 <diebot> object gets a saving throw against this effect. Detection spells provide information based on the second object rather than on the actual target of the detection unless the caster of the detection succeeds on a Will save. For instance, you could make yourself detect as a tree if one were within range at casting: not evil, not lying, not magical,
30:40 <diebot> neutral in alignment, and so forth. This spell does not affect other types of divination magic (augury, detect thoughts, clairaudience/clairvoyance, and the like).
31:51 <Mekkis> !spell Baphomet's Blessing
31:52 <diebot> Mekkis, BAPHOMET'S BLESSING transmutation (polymorph[]) cleric/oracle 4, druid 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, summoner 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: touch one living creature Comp: V, M/DF (powdered bull's horn) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates SR:yesSource: Inner Sea Gods
31:53 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/baphomet's_blessing.html
32:46 <Mekkis> !spell Damnation Stride
32:47 <diebot> Mekkis, DAMNATION STRIDE conjuration (teleportation[fire]) sorcerer/wizard 5, summoner 4, witch 5 1 standard action Range: long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level) self and creatures within a 10-foot-radius burst (see below) Comp: V Duration: 1 minutes/level Save: Reflex half, see text SR:noSource: Advanced Race Guide
32:47 <diebot> This spell functions like dimension door, except you leave behind a burst of fire. Choose one corner of your starting square. A 10-foot-radius burst of flame explodes from that corner the moment you leave, dealing 4d6 points of fire damage (Reflex negates).
33:26 <Mekkis> !spell Transmogrify
33:27 <diebot> Mekkis, TRANSMOGRIFY transmutation ([]) summoner 4 1 hour Range: touch your eidolon Comp: V, S, M (a flask of quicksilver worth 1,000 gp) Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:noSource: APG
33:27 <diebot> Your eidolon's form shifts and transforms. This spell allows you to change any of the eidolon's evolutions by allocating its evolution pool on new evolutions. If you have the aspect or greater aspect ability, this spell also allows you to change the evolution points spent to modify you, including removing or adding points as allowed by those
33:28 <diebot> abilities. Your eidolon cannot benefit from this spell more than once per day. This spell does not allow you to change your eidolon's base form.
33:44 <Mekkis> !spell Major Creation
33:45 <diebot> Mekkis, MAJOR CREATION conjuration (creation[]) sorcerer/wizard 5, summoner 4, witch 5 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S, M (a tiny piece of matter of the same sort of item you plan to create with minor creation) Duration: see text Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
33:45 <diebot> This spell functions like minor creation, except that you can also create an object of mineral nature: stone, crystal, metal, or the like. The duration of the created item varies with its relative hardness and rarity, as indicated on the following table. Hardness and Rarity Examples Duration Vegetable matter 2 hr./level Stone, crystal, base metals
33:45 <diebot> 1 hr./level Precious metals 20 min./level Gems 10 min./level Rare metal* 1 round/level * Includes adamantine, alchemical silver, and mithral. You can't use major creation to create a cold iron item.
33:56 <Mekkis> !spell fabricate
33:57 <diebot> Mekkis, FABRICATE transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5 see text Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) up to 10 cu. ft./level; see text Comp: V, S, M (the original material, which costs the same amount as the raw materials required to craft the item to be created) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
33:57 <diebot> You convert material of one sort into a product that is of the same material. Creatures or magic items cannot be created or transmuted by the fabricate spell. The quality of items made by this spell is commensurate with the quality of material used as the basis for the new fabrication. If you work with a mineral, the target is reduced to 1 cubic
33:58 <diebot> foot per level instead of 10 cubic feet. You must make an appropriate Craft check to fabricate articles requiring a high degree of craftsmanship. Casting requires 1 round per 10 cubic feet of material to be affected by the spell.
35:03 <Mekkis> !spell Contact Other Plane
35:04 <diebot> Mekkis, CONTACT OTHER PLANE divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, witch 5, summoner 4, alchemist 5 10 minutes Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: concentration Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
35:04 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/contact_other_plane.html
37:01 <Mekkis> !spell summon stampede
37:03 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON STAMPEDE conjuration (summoning[]) cleric/oracle 6, druid 6, summoner 4 1 round Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, M (piece of fur from a herd animal) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Reflex halves (see text) SR:noSource: Chronicle Of The Righteous
37:03 <diebot> You conjure a herd of aurochs or similar herd animal that immediately stampedes in the direction you indicate. The herd takes up a 20-foot-radius space and moves at a rate of 120 feet per round in a straight line. Any creatures caught in the herd's path take 4d6+9 points of damage that round as they are trampled beneath dozens of animals' hooves. A
37:03 <diebot> successful Reflex save halves this damage. If the stampede's path would put it in an obviously dangerous area (such as over a cliff or through a fire) or force it to move through a solid barrier, the herd stops at the obstacle and moves in a new randomly determined direction until it reaches another obstacle or the spell's duration ends.
37:51 <Mekkis> !spell magic circle
37:53 <diebot> Mekkis, MAGIC MISSILE evocation ([force]) sorcerer/wizard 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) up to five creatures, no two of which can be more than 15 ft. apart Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
37:53 <diebot> A missile of magical energy darts forth from your fingertip and strikes its target, dealing 1d4+1 points of force damage. The missile strikes unerringly, even if the target is in melee combat, so long as it has less than total cover or total concealment. Specific parts of a creature can't be singled out. Objects are not damaged by the spell. For
37:53 <diebot> every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile-two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher. If you shoot multiple missiles, you can have them strike a single creature or several creatures. A single missile can strike only one creature. You must designate targets before you
37:53 <diebot> check for spell resistance or roll damage.
37:59 <Mekkis> !spell magic circle against evil
38:00 <diebot> Mekkis, MAGIC CIRCLE AGAINST EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 3, paladin 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 3, inquisitor 3, summoner 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: touch  Comp: V, S, M/DF (a 3-ft.-diameter circle of powdered silver) Duration: 10 min./level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see textSource: PFRPG Core
38:00 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/magic_circle_against_evil.html
38:29 <Mekkis> !spell planar binding, lesser
38:31 <diebot> Mekkis, PLANAR BINDING, LESSER conjuration (calling[see text]) sorcerer/wizard 5, summoner 4 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels); see text one elemental or outsider with 6 HD or less Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates SR:no and yes; see textSource: PFRPG Core
38:32 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/planar_binding,_lesser.html
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38:54 <Mekkis> !spell dimensional anchor
38:56 <diebot> Mekkis, DIMENSIONAL ANCHOR abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, summoner 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: none SR:yes (object)Source: PFRPG Core
38:56 <diebot> A green ray springs from your hand. You must make a ranged touch attack to hit the target. Any creature or object struck by the ray is covered with a shimmering emerald field that completely blocks extradimensional travel. Forms of movement barred by a dimensional anchor include astral projection, blink, dimension door, ethereal jaunt,
38:56 <diebot> etherealness, gate, maze, plane shift, shadow walk, teleport, and similar spell-like abilities. The spell also prevents the use of a gate or teleportation circle for the duration of the spell. A dimensional anchor does not interfere with the movement of creatures already in ethereal or astral form when the spell is cast, nor does it block
38:56 <diebot> extradimensional perception or attack forms. Also, dimensional anchor does not prevent summoned creatures from disappearing at the end of a summoning spell.
45:46 <s_gmusic> so basically, instead of buying the scrolls and then paying to inscribe them, "borrow" someone else's book and copypasta from it. sounds legit.
46:00 <s_gmusic> but how do you determine cost?
46:17 <Mekkis> normal scribing cost is spell level squared x10gp
46:41 <Mekkis> getting an NPC spell access is spell level squared x5gp.
47:00 <Mekkis> So scribing a spell you don't have access to normally is spell level squared x15gp.
55:53 <s_gmusic> okay. do I still have to roll... Spellcraft(?) checks for this?
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19:19 <Avatar> I don't actually have 7d6 channelling anyway
19:36 <Avatar> that's level 13
19:37 <Steven> you can get it at level 9
19:50 <Avatar> I'm not using a phylactery, I've got a headband
19:52 <Avatar> of wis
20:01 <Steven> phalachary of positive channeling>headband of wis.
20:19 <Avatar> I actually saw this feat earlier now that I read it
20:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, what about the concept of a cleric who rides a roc, and rains holy fire down on her enemies.
20:22 <Avatar> that is a very good feat
20:42 <Avatar> yeah ok you have my attention
20:43 <Mekkis> by means of searing light, holy smite etc
20:55 <Avatar> can a cleric actually get a roc
21:07 <Avatar> I would like a roc companion, that is probably the only exception to the AC rule
21:17 <Avatar> that I would enjoy, at least
21:19 <Mekkis> certainly.
21:21 <Steven> how about worshiping http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Vildeis
21:24 <Mekkis> I asked that question years ago
21:39 <Avatar> terrible domains
21:43 <Steven> she is all about martyrdom 
21:50 <Avatar> even a terrible favoured weapon, a dagger? are you serious
21:54 <Steven> pick up Sepratist Cleric
22:25 <Avatar> I would kind of like a deity that has two good domains rather than one
22:33 <Avatar> if I can help it
23:52 <Steven> iunno the resurrection domain is pretty awesome.
24:17 <Steven> oh so and so died... we REALLY need that front liner/caster
24:20 <Mekkis> What about  Easivra 
24:26 <Steven> well... get up and fight some more.
24:44 <Mekkis> Has the Feather and the Sun domains
25:13 <Mekkis> Sun domain gives you the best blasting spell of all
25:35 <Mekkis> (and also the ability to Really give Darkness the middle finger)
26:08 <Avatar> that really isn't as good as the heroism domain
26:23 <Mekkis> Didn't think Erastil had that
26:28 <Avatar> yeah, glory
26:51 <Avatar> oh wait a sec
27:07 <Mekkis> I would disagree
27:09 <Avatar> yeah you're right, that ruins my day a bit
27:28 <Mekkis> heroism domain isn't THAT good
28:05 <Avatar> 30ft aura of heroism is sweet as
28:14 <Avatar> spellcasting/support, hello!
28:41 <Avatar> the spells suck a bit
28:42 <Mekkis> not as good as a spell that does 11d8+88 damage at level 11.
28:59 <Avatar> what spell is that
29:06 <Mekkis> Fire Seeds
30:29 <Avatar> that's 8d8+11
30:54 <Avatar> and it sounds like I have to hurt myself to use them
31:13 <Avatar> it's not a 5ft range increment, it's 'you can throw it only 5ft'
31:30 <Avatar> if that is the case I would be hoping another healer is around the place
32:34 <Steven1> isnt there a diety thats favorite animal is an eagle... brb gonna go look.
32:36 <Mekkis> It's "Swoop down, drop it, fly back up, BOOM!"
32:37 <Avatar> even 10d4 is pretty shit at level 10
32:51 <Avatar> oh, excellent point
33:03 <Mekkis> Or: Cast Resist Energy on the fighter (or your roc), and get them to toe-to-toe the enemy
33:03 <Avatar> ok so that stops me hurting myself, but still 8d8+11
33:19 <Mekkis> 8d8+88
33:25 <Steven1> Ketephys
33:30 <Mekkis> each berry does 1d8+11 damage
33:38 <Avatar> ohhhh
33:40 <Avatar> holy hell
33:53 <Steven1> yeah fire seeds is a decent spell against the right opponents.
34:03 <Mekkis> (those not immune to fire)
34:07 <Steven1> which can be said about just about any elemental spells
34:19 <Avatar> thank god demon season is over
34:27 <Steven1> yeah... now we have robot season!
34:28 <Avatar> that was becoming a nightmare for my alchemist
34:32 <Avatar> immune to fire, immune to poison
34:49 <Avatar> are robots immune to fire
34:50 <Mekkis> yeah, they're just immune to spells in general
35:11 <Mekkis> Thou Shalt Learn Thy Summons
35:34 <Steven1> avatar... how bout a cleric Alchemist.
36:01 <Avatar> one alchemist is enough
36:17 <Steven1> the fire seeds are are treated as Splash weapons.
36:18 <Avatar> as good as this fire seed roc plan sounds, it forces me to be a separatist
36:39 <Mekkis> how?
36:56 <Mekkis> There are at least two deities that have both domains
37:00 <Avatar> which
37:11 <Avatar> I am only looking at the core rulebook, I might be missing some
37:12 <Steven1> there are no deities with both the fire and feather domains that are good aligned probably.
37:20 <Avatar> sun domain
37:21 <Mekkis> Horus
37:36 <Mekkis> Easivra
37:41 <Steven1> source book requirement.
37:41 <Mekkis> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Easivra
39:02 <Steven1> start planning your roleplay avatar.  He is currently worshiped only by the sabosan, a race of nocturnal bat-like humanoids native to the Mwangi Expanse
39:19 <Avatar> are these in the ISWG
40:08 <Avatar> or what book ?
40:19 <Steven1> no he is in the council of theives AP and the heart of the jungle splat book
40:25 <Mekkis> Heart of the Jungle, which unfortunately isn't PFS legal
40:44 <Steven1> yeah... wonder if they put him in the inner sea gods table
40:56 <Mekkis> I'd just stick with Erastil
41:27 <Mekkis> there's still a multitude of stuff you can do without the Sun domain
41:35 <Mekkis> Searing light/Holy Smite
41:41 <Mekkis> Reach Bestow Curse
41:43 <Steven1> woot woot, they reprinted him in the table in Inner Sea gods.
41:46 <Mekkis> Blindness/Deafness
42:18 <Avatar> Easivra actually gets a minor mention in inner sea gods
42:34 <Avatar> not with domains/favoured weapon though
43:18 <Steven1> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Easivra
43:31 <Steven1> sadly i left my physical copy at the store tonight.
44:19 <Avatar> leaning back towards desna probably isn't a bad idea
44:44 <Steven1> no reason why you couldnt just go sepratist Desna.
46:56 <Avatar> separatist isn't actually as bad as I thought now that I meet the "2 levels later" issue anyway
47:26 <Mekkis> If you're going separatist, I'd get fire rather than Sun.
47:44 <Mekkis> Fireball on your spell list means: FUN WITH THE &staff of fire!
47:48 <diebot> STAFF OF FIRE [moderate evocation] CL:8 none 18950gp, 5lb
47:48 <diebot> Crafted from bronzewood with brass bindings, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Burning hands (1 charge) • Fireball (2 charges) • Wall of fire (3 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
48:11 <Steven1> you'd get an animal companion at level 6 and could pick up boon companion at level 7, and have a rock at -1lvl class level... sounds decent really.
50:06 <Avatar> the character is level 10 already
50:10 <Steven1> so at level 8 you'd be flying around beatin people down.
50:11 <Mekkis> see?
50:14 <Mekkis> What's the issue?
50:23 <Mekkis> Flying around fireballing peoples
50:39 <Steven1> oh man... i didnt know you had 10 levels of playing to work with.
50:55 <Avatar> yeah lots of GM credit on this one because I hated playing him at lower levels
51:21 <Avatar> turns out even at higher levels he was a bit shit to play because I couldn't work out how to play a cleric
51:32 <Avatar> the beginning of waking rune was a bit embarassing
51:54 <Mekkis> the end was even more embarassing
52:07 <Steven1> was the middle embarassing?
52:15 <Mekkis> The aftermath was an embarrassment to everyone
52:44 <Avatar> I think in terms of embarrassment from not so embarassing to most embarassing, it went, the beginning, the middle, the end
52:58 <Avatar> and yes probably the aftermath was the worst
53:20 <Avatar> but lucky for me it overshadowed how badly I played my cleric at the beginning
53:28 <Avatar> I mean it was terrible
53:52 <Avatar> which reminds me, which faction did ulzef pick for his pirate
54:04 <Avatar> I need to change Buck's faction to that
54:24 <Mekkis> exchangr\e
54:41 <Avatar> that makes sense
55:05 <Avatar> weird choice for Buck, but okay
56:49 <Steven1> hey avatar how badly do you want to be able to channel... is that something we can tinker with?
56:56 <Avatar> sure
57:06 <Avatar> it can be toned down but not removed
57:14 <Steven1> oh.... damn....
57:19 <Avatar> what were you thinking
57:26 <Avatar> the alternative had want to be amazing
57:44 <Steven1> cause i was gonna say... if we went for flying insane dropping bombs on people... i got something for that lol
58:12 <Avatar> talk to me
58:24 <Steven1> Human Divine Hunter w/ the feather domain.
59:08 <Steven1> you would have a Celetial Roc that could have +6 to an ability score you decide.
59:39 <Steven1> 2 from level 2 from eye for talent 2 from class ability.
00:28 <Steven1> so... instead of say a 20str roc you would have a 26str roc.
00:33 <Steven1> that is celestial
00:48 <Avatar> I think you might need to slow down a bit
00:52 <Avatar> what book is any of that in
01:01 <Steven1> Advanced Class guide.
01:36 <Avatar> divine hunter? no?
01:40 <Steven1> You'd be a Hunter not a Cleric... but if you wanted to do crazy stuff like ride a roc around and wreck people... that would be the way to go
01:49 <Avatar> no way, must stay a cleric
02:08 <Avatar> that is an enormous change
02:42 <Steven1> druids have just as many buff spells as clerics do. they just happen to be more single target rather than aoe like bless and prayer
04:29 <Steven1> the other pretty stupid thing about the hunter build is you get a free belt of your choosing.
05:57 <Avatar> man I would really love the travel domain, I keep looking at it and salivating
07:58 <Mekkis> Yay. Almost all my levelling is done
08:18 <Avatar> this is the problem with separatist: all of the abilities say 3+wis modifier, and that gets dropped by 2
09:42 <Avatar> what is that staff that has cloudkill?
09:49 <Steven1> iunno
09:51 <Avatar> is that the one that got grandfathered
09:52 <Mekkis> toxins
10:05 <Avatar> is that high priced now
10:08 <Mekkis> it's still around, but it did get grandfathered
10:13 <Avatar> urgh
10:13 <Mekkis> !item staff of toxins
10:19 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF TOXINS [moderate varies] CL:9 none 34200gp, 5lb
10:19 <diebot> This length of hemlock-shrouded oak gives off the faintest whiff of rot and corruption. It allows use of the following spells: • Stinking cloud (1 charge) • Cloudkill (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
10:23 <Avatar> the smoke domain is a variant fire domain and has stinking cloud
10:39 <Mekkis> just go straight fire.
10:44 <Mekkis> fireball
11:15 <Mekkis> pay someone at Paizo to make a domain that gets Battering Blast
12:04 <Avatar> Wall of Ashes (Su): At 8th level, you can create a wall of swirling ashes anywhere within 100 feet. This wall is up to 20 feet high and up to 10 feet long per cleric level you possess. The wall of ash blocks line of sight, and any creature passing through it must make a Fortitude save or be blinded for 1d4 rounds. The wall of ash reveals invisible creatures that are inside it or adjacent to it, 
12:04 <Avatar> although they become invisible again if they move away from the wall. You can use this ability for a number of minutes per day equal to your cleric level, but these minutes do not need to be consecutive.
12:48 <Avatar> replacement spells are good, but don't kick in until 7th caster level
13:02 <Avatar> that sounds better than fire resist 10 though
13:17 <Mekkis> fire resist 10 is good
13:22 <Avatar> you reckon
13:32 <Mekkis> you disagree?
13:42 <Avatar> I can't remember the last time I got some fire thrown at me
13:57 <Steven1> I disagree... you can get Fire Resist 20 from a second level spell.
15:02 <Avatar> am I reading that right, 20ft high per cleric level and 10ft long per cleric level?
15:08 <Avatar> that's insane
15:23 <Steven1> its 20ft tall
15:44 <Avatar> and 10ft per caster level?
15:50 <Steven1> yeah i think so.
15:56 <Avatar> that is still crazy
16:03 <Steven1> it is pretty good.
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53:17 <Avatar> do some deities not allow subdomains of their own domains
53:22 <Avatar> sarenrae has fire but not ash
53:42 <Avatar> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Deities_Quick_Reference
53:44 <Avatar> according to that
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18:04 <Avatar> the channelling feats in the ACG are kind of terrible for a cleric
19:27 <Avatar> s_gmusic: I've had trouble working out how to scribe spells into a spellbook/familiar as well, I'm sure I've overpaid
20:08 <Avatar> When you channel positive energy, any creature healed by the channel also gains the effect of freedom of movement for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum 1 round). This effect has a caster level equal to your effective cleric level.
20:13 <Avatar> that's kind of amazing
20:53 <Avatar> pity a level 9 cleric can only do a 5d6 channel, that has a pre-req of 7d6, and it's in inner sea gods which is like $30 for the PDF
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45:45 <Avatar> I can't bring myself to dump dex
45:51 <Avatar> I try but I feel dirty
46:37 <Avatar> clerics can dump int safely can't they
46:42 <Avatar> 10 is the same as a 7?
50:48 <Avatar> clerics have awful reflex saves as well, +3 all the way to level 11
01:21 <Brunius> clerics can dump cha
02:35 <Steven> its a powerful book
03:53 <Avatar> it's an expensive book
03:59 <Avatar> not sure if it's a cleric must-have
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16:48 <s_gmusic> herro
18:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, Kernigahn's statline was 10/12/12/11/16/14 before racial mods
19:08 <Mekkis> To be fair, if I was creating a cleric to the concept I proposed, I'd probably dump str
26:07 <s_gmusic> so if I have this right: to get a new spell in my spellbook in PFS, I only have to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) and handwave the Spellcraft roll by Taking 10 on it (my Spellcraft is 11, so it'd be 21). How do I list this on a chronicle, then? Just as "Gold Spent"?
29:14 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, no, you need to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) to get access to the spell, followed by a slightly larger amount of gold (spell level squared x 10) to put it in your spellbook. Just put it on your chronicle sheet as "scribing costs, see attached", and attach a sheet listing spells and their costs.
32:47 <s_gmusic> ah, got it.
33:22 <s_gmusic> also, how do these faction changes work? do I get to keep all my fame and prestige from the old faction, or is some of it lost?
45:37 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, to answer your question: take10
09:02 <Mekkis> you keep everything
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13:34 <Steven|mobile> sup
15:21 <Steven|mobile> at the shop
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07:56 <Steven> !roll 5d8+9
07:57 <dicebot> Steven, 5d8+9: [5d8=8,1,6,8,2] 34
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25:08 <Mekkis> !hp 11d8m2
25:09 <diebot> Mekkis, 80
27:56 <Mekkis> !spell Vitriolic Mist
27:58 <diebot> Mekkis, VITRIOLIC MIST evocation ([acid]) alchemist 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, summoner 4 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (a piece of lemon rind) Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save:  SR:Source: Ultimate Magic
27:58 <diebot> This functions as fire shield, except it wreathes you in yellow or green acidic mist instead of hot or cold flames. The spell deals acid damage to attackers and protects you against acid damage. This spell does not shed light.
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11:40 <dung_beetle> yo yo yo yooooooooooooo partayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy fkerssssssssssssssssssss
11:44 <dung_beetle> supppppppppppppppppppp
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20:28 <Mekkis> !hp 8d10m1
20:29 <diebot> Mekkis, 60
30:29 <Avatar> yo
33:02 <Avatar> made some progress on fixing my cleric today
33:12 <Avatar> not much, mind you
33:18 <Avatar> but progress is progress
34:37 <Steven> yes, good ole progress.
37:48 <Avatar> steven just the man I want to see
38:13 <Avatar> abadar, erastil or desna?
38:31 <Avatar> travel/caves, feather/heroism, or luck/liberation/travel respectively ?
41:56 <Steven> travel so good
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11:33 <Avatar> that wasn't terribly helpful
11:55 <Avatar> I should have mentioned I am still going positive channelling
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37:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, given that you've stated that you don't like animal companions, I'd go Desna
37:37 <Mekkis> sorry
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37:43 <Mekkis> I'd Suggest that you go Desna
37:53 <Brunius> Suggest with a capital S
37:59 <Steven> hey sorry, i went home after answering your thing, so i didnt see anything else you wrote
38:01 <Mekkis> indeed
38:08 <Mekkis> <Avatar> that wasn't terribly helpful
38:45 <Mekkis> Brunius, are you getting prepared to get Screwed Over By Uni Fees?
38:51 <Steven> sure it was!  anything with the travel domain is awesome... cant really make a bad decision
38:54 <Brunius> My body is ready
39:09 <Brunius> Actually, I've heard that with the delays in the senate, I might be able to sneak in under the current system
39:38 <Brunius> I don't know how it's working though
39:44 <Mekkis> True that
40:39 <Steven> also, avatar did you not enjoy our thread derail in a thread that is basically just a 'wah theres something i dont like' thread?  
41:00 <Mekkis> Steven, do you do that sort of thing on purpose?
41:21 <Mekkis> Did you know that Grand Prince Stavian III is a wizard?
41:34 <Steven> it evolved into it as we kept responding to each other, was a great laugh.
42:09 <Steven> though really, i guess it would actually be a devolved
42:26 <Avatar> that thread derail was atrocious man
42:42 <Avatar> there were a lot of good points in that thread where PFS has room for improvement and you guys went on a jerkfest
43:17 <Avatar> it should tell you something that a moderator had to step in to remove all your posts
43:26 <Steven> i saw no points that were going to contribute to the growth of PFS.  Just a lot of crying really.
43:36 <Avatar> then you're missing out on something
43:47 <Avatar> feedback is invaluable
43:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's a very 21st-Century American thing. If people are discussing something you don't like, keep filibustering and going off-topic until everyone loses track.
44:05 <Avatar> that's exactly what was happening
44:08 <Mekkis> It's why US Congressmen haven't been able to pass a budget in about half a decade
44:19 <Avatar> you can't do that kind of thing when you're VO's man, that's disgusting
45:01 <Mekkis> Why? Lots of VOs do disgusting things. Throwing RAW out the window, running 8 player tables...
45:12 <Avatar> this was worse than any of that
45:21 <Steven> Seriously though... the thread is just this months 'why cant pfs be my way' entitlement thread.
45:43 <Avatar> that thread is full of things that can be changed to improve PFS
46:24 <Steven> that will never be improved because the problem isnt with the feats, classes, or anything its with the players playing those classes being douches and not knowing when not to hog the spotlight from other players.
46:24 <Avatar> when you say 'why can't pfs be my way', it's a fair question if people agree those things need to be changed
46:55 <Avatar> there was one about how a table of 3-3-3-3-5 in season 0-3 is forced to play tier 1-2
47:31 <Avatar> there are a lot of things people might not notice and that post encouraged people to post them 
47:42 <Avatar> some posts were silly, but a lot of that can be let off because it was light hearted
47:54 <Avatar> even the first couple of posts you guys made - that are still there - are fine
48:03 <Avatar> but you can't just troll it to pieces, that's terrible
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48:27 <Avatar> two VO's, a scenario author, 4-star GMs, all trolling an improvements thread
48:47 <Brunius> that's not the sort of image you want to send to new players
49:34 <Steven> you're right we should have started arguing about things... then its completely fine.
49:50 <Steven> we could bicker and get catty and our posts would still be there.
49:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should create a thread about that.
50:14 <Avatar> I don't need to create a thread about it, they saw it and it got deleted
50:19 * Steven writes this down in his things to do folder.
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52:34 <Steven> was still hilarious thread derail... made my day.
53:19 <Steven> and i think you should get the travel domain through Hanspur.... such an underrated god.
55:21 <Avatar> who the crap is that
55:23 <Steven> just get create pit and a decanter of endless water stuff.
55:42 <Steven> minor deity in the river kingdoms.
56:00 <Mekkis> he's the god of misfortune at sea, I believe
56:13 <Mekkis> !hp 9d6m2
56:14 <diebot> Mekkis, 56
56:18 <Mekkis> !hp 9d6m3
56:19 <diebot> Mekkis, 65
56:20 <Steven> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Hanspur
58:49 <Avatar> I only see the travel domain that I like there
59:00 <Avatar> why would I pick hanspur
59:18 <Steven> cause... nobody would expect it.
59:20 <Mekkis> I can't see Avatar playing a Hanspur preacher
00:06 <Steven> dont crush my dream mekkis...
00:15 <Steven> let it live a little while longer lol
00:29 <Mekkis> Steven, how can I increase my sorcerer's ranged touch attacks?
00:39 <Mekkis> preferably through items
00:47 <Steven> like to hit?
00:51 <Mekkis> yeah
00:58 <Steven> dex belt
01:03 <Mekkis> at level 9, +7 is pretty average.
01:07 <Mekkis> Already have one of them
01:22 <Steven> upgrade dex belt.
01:36 <Mekkis> any way that's cheaper than throwing 12000gp at the problem?
01:49 <Steven> theres not a lot of ways to increase +hit.
02:01 <Mekkis> yeah.
02:12 <Steven> quicken spell metamagic rod and truestrike?
02:18 <Steven> um.....
02:26 <Steven> yeah....
02:29 <Steven> thats about it.
02:37 <Avatar> yeah I am not picking a deity for flavour
02:46 <Avatar> if I was doing that I would be picking cayden cailean, no question
02:54 <Steven> oh man.... I've been waiting so long to say this.
02:55 <Mekkis> maybe I should cast reduce person on myself, enlarge person on my familiar, and riding him :S
03:03 <Steven> Optimizer!
03:03 <Avatar> I want some optimisation, that's it
03:08 <Avatar> hence the 3 choices
03:10 <Steven> Cheese Monkey!
03:11 <Mekkis> oh
03:21 <Mekkis> if you want optimisation, definitely go Erastil.
03:31 <Mekkis> get animal companion.
03:45 <Avatar> I'd go feather, not animal
03:52 <Mekkis> feather is a subdomain of animal
03:57 <Steven> be a Sepratist.
03:59 <Mekkis> doesn't it still give you the companion?
04:03 <Avatar> don't forget I don't *like* animal companions
04:07 <Avatar> no I don't think so
04:33 <Steven> what are you trying to do with your cleric anyways man?
04:40 <Mekkis> yep, still has it
04:45 <Avatar> oh wait it does
04:50 <Mekkis> So you could get a roc companion :)
05:02 <Mekkis> actually, wow
05:10 <Mekkis> Feather subdomain is powerful
05:17 <Mekkis> pretty awesome actually
05:22 <Avatar> yes you're welcome
05:24 <Steven> yup.
05:41 <Steven> so what you trying to do with your cleric avatar?
05:43 <Avatar> can I get a roc animal companion
05:46 <Mekkis> Phil Goodall, Kernighan's companion has an int of 5
05:49 <Mekkis> you can, yes
05:52 <Avatar> pick a deity and domains
06:01 <Avatar> I'm finding making a cleric is not at all like making any other class
06:05 <Mekkis> so knows eighteen tricks
06:13 <Steven> i know... but i mean what is the goal for your cleric.
06:15 <Avatar> deity/domains has to be chosen first
06:17 <Mekkis> yes, there are so many options.
06:23 <Avatar> then you can start thinking about ability scores
06:38 <Avatar> I don't much of a goal
06:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, you going a spellcasting cleric, a support cleric, or a fighting cleric?
06:44 <Avatar> he's staying as a negative channeller
06:48 <Steven> I made an animal companion that had 7 Int at 4th level.
06:52 <Avatar> spellcasting/support
06:56 <Steven> so smarter than some paladins.
07:03 <Avatar> I could go either ranged or melee, I'm not terribly fussed
07:11 <Mekkis> you said he was a positive channeller before
07:12 <Avatar> probably melee to save on featage
07:19 <Avatar> er
07:21 <Avatar> I meant positive
07:23 <Avatar> sorry
07:40 <Avatar> yeah Cairo is keeping most of his roots where possible
07:43 <Avatar> just fixing where he's fucked up
07:45 <Steven> if you are looking to be a spellcasting support. I highly recommend Cayden and picking up LIberation channel.
07:47 <Mekkis> oh
08:04 <Avatar> what is this about alternative channelling, I can't find it anywhere
08:15 <Mekkis> The problem with spellcasting clerics is that they get really boring at low levels.
08:21 <Steven> it isnt an alternative channeling, its a channeling feat.
08:30 <Avatar> yeah this is a rebuild, so that's not a problem here
08:34 <Mekkis> Considered something like the fire domain?
08:40 <Avatar> what's the feat called
08:47 <Steven> Liberation channel
08:50 <Steven> liberating channel
08:51 <Avatar> Cairo actually had the fire domain, it was O.K.
08:52 <Steven> something like that
08:59 <Avatar> !feat liberating channel
09:01 <diebot> Avatar, VERSATILE CHANNELER []Prereq:  Channel energy class feature, necromancer or neutrally aligned cleric (see below).  You can choose to channel positive and negative energy. 
09:01 <diebot> Benefit:  You may make a choice whenever you use your channel energy class feature. If you normally channel positive energy, you may choose to channel negative energy as if your effective cleric level were 2 levels lower than normal. If you normally channel negative energy, you may choose to channel positive energy as if your effective cleric
09:02 <diebot> level were 2 levels lower than normal. Having this feat means you qualify for feats and abilities that have “channel positive energy” or “channel negative energy” as a prerequisite (for example, you qualify for the Command Undead feat and the Turn Undead feat). Source: UM
09:06 <Avatar> that's not it
09:23 <Avatar> inner sea gods
09:27 <Avatar> is the feat worth $30
09:31 <Mekkis> no
09:44 <Avatar> I'm really not sure that book is worth it hey
09:52 <Avatar> what were they thinking pricing it so high
10:05 <Avatar> even the ACG is still $10 like every other book
10:09 <Steven>  Liberation Channel Source Inner Sea Gods pg. 213 (Amazon) Your channeled energy is truly liberating.  Prerequisites: Channel energy 7d6, worshiper of Cayden Cailean.  Benefit: When you channel positive energy, any creature healed by the channel also gains the effect of freedom of movement for a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum 1 roun
10:23 <Avatar> I don't actually have 7d6 channelling anyway
10:39 <Avatar> that's level 13
10:40 <Steven> you can get it at level 9
10:53 <Avatar> I'm not using a phylactery, I've got a headband
10:55 <Avatar> of wis
11:04 <Steven> phalachary of positive channeling>headband of wis.
11:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, what about the concept of a cleric who rides a roc, and rains holy fire down on her enemies.
11:22 <Avatar> I actually saw this feat earlier now that I read it
11:25 <Avatar> that is a very good feat
11:45 <Mekkis> by means of searing light, holy smite etc
11:45 <Avatar> yeah ok you have my attention
11:58 <Avatar> can a cleric actually get a roc
12:10 <Avatar> I would like a roc companion, that is probably the only exception to the AC rule
12:21 <Avatar> that I would enjoy, at least
12:22 <Mekkis> certainly.
12:24 <Steven> how about worshiping http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Vildeis
12:27 <Mekkis> I asked that question years ago
12:42 <Avatar> terrible domains
12:46 <Steven> she is all about martyrdom 
12:53 <Avatar> even a terrible favoured weapon, a dagger? are you serious
12:57 <Steven> pick up Sepratist Cleric
13:29 <Avatar> I would kind of like a deity that has two good domains rather than one
13:36 <Avatar> if I can help it
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14:55 <Steven> iunno the resurrection domain is pretty awesome.
15:21 <Steven> oh so and so died... we REALLY need that front liner/caster
15:23 <Mekkis> What about  Easivra 
15:29 <Steven> well... get up and fight some more.
15:46 <Mekkis> Has the Feather and the Sun domains
16:16 <Mekkis> Sun domain gives you the best blasting spell of all
16:38 <Mekkis> (and also the ability to Really give Darkness the middle finger)
17:11 <Avatar> that really isn't as good as the heroism domain
17:26 <Mekkis> Didn't think Erastil had that
17:31 <Avatar> yeah, glory
17:54 <Avatar> oh wait a sec
18:10 <Mekkis> I would disagree
18:12 <Avatar> yeah you're right, that ruins my day a bit
18:31 <Mekkis> heroism domain isn't THAT good
19:08 <Avatar> 30ft aura of heroism is sweet as
19:17 <Avatar> spellcasting/support, hello!
19:44 <Avatar> the spells suck a bit
19:45 <Mekkis> not as good as a spell that does 11d8+88 damage at level 11.
20:02 <Avatar> what spell is that
20:09 <Mekkis> Fire Seeds
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21:32 <Avatar> that's 8d8+11
21:57 <Avatar> and it sounds like I have to hurt myself to use them
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22:16 <Avatar> it's not a 5ft range increment, it's 'you can throw it only 5ft'
22:33 <Avatar> if that is the case I would be hoping another healer is around the place
23:37 <Steven1> isnt there a diety thats favorite animal is an eagle... brb gonna go look.
23:39 <Mekkis> It's "Swoop down, drop it, fly back up, BOOM!"
23:40 <Avatar> even 10d4 is pretty shit at level 10
23:54 <Avatar> oh, excellent point
24:06 <Mekkis> Or: Cast Resist Energy on the fighter (or your roc), and get them to toe-to-toe the enemy
24:06 <Avatar> ok so that stops me hurting myself, but still 8d8+11
24:21 <Mekkis> 8d8+88
24:28 <Steven1> Ketephys
24:33 <Mekkis> each berry does 1d8+11 damage
24:41 <Avatar> ohhhh
24:43 <Avatar> holy hell
24:56 <Steven1> yeah fire seeds is a decent spell against the right opponents.
25:06 <Mekkis> (those not immune to fire)
25:10 <Steven1> which can be said about just about any elemental spells
25:22 <Avatar> thank god demon season is over
25:31 <Steven1> yeah... now we have robot season!
25:31 <Avatar> that was becoming a nightmare for my alchemist
25:36 <Avatar> immune to fire, immune to poison
25:52 <Avatar> are robots immune to fire
25:53 <Mekkis> yeah, they're just immune to spells in general
26:14 <Mekkis> Thou Shalt Learn Thy Summons
26:37 <Steven1> avatar... how bout a cleric Alchemist.
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27:04 <Avatar> one alchemist is enough
27:20 <Steven1> the fire seeds are are treated as Splash weapons.
27:21 <Avatar> as good as this fire seed roc plan sounds, it forces me to be a separatist
27:42 <Mekkis> how?
27:59 <Mekkis> There are at least two deities that have both domains
28:04 <Avatar> which
28:14 <Avatar> I am only looking at the core rulebook, I might be missing some
28:15 <Steven1> there are no deities with both the fire and feather domains that are good aligned probably.
28:23 <Avatar> sun domain
28:24 <Mekkis> Horus
28:39 <Mekkis> Easivra
28:44 <Mekkis> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Easivra
28:44 <Steven1> source book requirement.
30:05 <Steven1> start planning your roleplay avatar.  He is currently worshiped only by the sabosan, a race of nocturnal bat-like humanoids native to the Mwangi Expanse
30:23 <Avatar> are these in the ISWG
31:11 <Avatar> or what book ?
31:23 <Steven1> no he is in the council of theives AP and the heart of the jungle splat book
31:28 <Mekkis> Heart of the Jungle, which unfortunately isn't PFS legal
31:47 <Steven1> yeah... wonder if they put him in the inner sea gods table
31:59 <Mekkis> I'd just stick with Erastil
32:30 <Mekkis> there's still a multitude of stuff you can do without the Sun domain
32:38 <Mekkis> Searing light/Holy Smite
32:44 <Mekkis> Reach Bestow Curse
32:46 <Steven1> woot woot, they reprinted him in the table in Inner Sea gods.
32:49 <Mekkis> Blindness/Deafness
33:22 <Avatar> Easivra actually gets a minor mention in inner sea gods
33:37 <Avatar> not with domains/favoured weapon though
34:21 <Steven1> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Easivra
34:35 <Steven1> sadly i left my physical copy at the store tonight.
35:23 <Avatar> leaning back towards desna probably isn't a bad idea
35:47 <Steven1> no reason why you couldnt just go sepratist Desna.
37:59 <Avatar> separatist isn't actually as bad as I thought now that I meet the "2 levels later" issue anyway
38:29 <Mekkis> If you're going separatist, I'd get fire rather than Sun.
38:47 <Mekkis> Fireball on your spell list means: FUN WITH THE &staff of fire!
38:51 <diebot> STAFF OF FIRE [moderate evocation] CL:8 none 18950gp, 5lb
38:52 <diebot> Crafted from bronzewood with brass bindings, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Burning hands (1 charge) • Fireball (2 charges) • Wall of fire (3 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
39:15 <Steven1> you'd get an animal companion at level 6 and could pick up boon companion at level 7, and have a rock at -1lvl class level... sounds decent really.
41:10 <Avatar> the character is level 10 already
41:13 <Steven1> so at level 8 you'd be flying around beatin people down.
41:14 <Mekkis> see?
41:17 <Mekkis> What's the issue?
41:26 <Mekkis> Flying around fireballing peoples
41:42 <Steven1> oh man... i didnt know you had 10 levels of playing to work with.
41:58 <Avatar> yeah lots of GM credit on this one because I hated playing him at lower levels
42:24 <Avatar> turns out even at higher levels he was a bit shit to play because I couldn't work out how to play a cleric
42:35 <Avatar> the beginning of waking rune was a bit embarassing
42:57 <Mekkis> the end was even more embarassing
43:10 <Steven1> was the middle embarassing?
43:18 <Mekkis> The aftermath was an embarrassment to everyone
43:48 <Avatar> I think in terms of embarrassment from not so embarassing to most embarassing, it went, the beginning, the middle, the end
44:01 <Avatar> and yes probably the aftermath was the worst
44:23 <Avatar> but lucky for me it overshadowed how badly I played my cleric at the beginning
44:31 <Avatar> I mean it was terrible
44:55 <Avatar> which reminds me, which faction did ulzef pick for his pirate
45:08 <Avatar> I need to change Buck's faction to that
45:27 <Mekkis> exchangr\e
45:44 <Avatar> that makes sense
46:08 <Avatar> weird choice for Buck, but okay
47:53 <Steven1> hey avatar how badly do you want to be able to channel... is that something we can tinker with?
47:59 <Avatar> sure
48:09 <Avatar> it can be toned down but not removed
48:17 <Steven1> oh.... damn....
48:22 <Avatar> what were you thinking
48:29 <Avatar> the alternative had want to be amazing
48:47 <Steven1> cause i was gonna say... if we went for flying insane dropping bombs on people... i got something for that lol
49:15 <Avatar> talk to me
49:27 <Steven1> Human Divine Hunter w/ the feather domain.
50:12 <Steven1> you would have a Celetial Roc that could have +6 to an ability score you decide.
50:43 <Steven1> 2 from level 2 from eye for talent 2 from class ability.
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51:31 <Steven1> so... instead of say a 20str roc you would have a 26str roc.
51:36 <Steven1> that is celestial
51:52 <Avatar> I think you might need to slow down a bit
51:55 <Avatar> what book is any of that in
52:05 <Steven1> Advanced Class guide.
52:39 <Avatar> divine hunter? no?
52:43 <Steven1> You'd be a Hunter not a Cleric... but if you wanted to do crazy stuff like ride a roc around and wreck people... that would be the way to go
52:52 <Avatar> no way, must stay a cleric
53:12 <Avatar> that is an enormous change
53:45 <Steven1> druids have just as many buff spells as clerics do. they just happen to be more single target rather than aoe like bless and prayer
55:32 <Steven1> the other pretty stupid thing about the hunter build is you get a free belt of your choosing.
57:00 <Avatar> man I would really love the travel domain, I keep looking at it and salivating
59:01 <Mekkis> Yay. Almost all my levelling is done
59:22 <Avatar> this is the problem with separatist: all of the abilities say 3+wis modifier, and that gets dropped by 2
00:45 <Avatar> what is that staff that has cloudkill?
00:52 <Steven1> iunno
00:54 <Avatar> is that the one that got grandfathered
00:54 <Mekkis> toxins
01:08 <Avatar> is that high priced now
01:11 <Mekkis> it's still around, but it did get grandfathered
01:16 <Avatar> urgh
01:16 <Mekkis> !item staff of toxins
01:22 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF TOXINS [moderate varies] CL:9 none 34200gp, 5lb
01:23 <diebot> This length of hemlock-shrouded oak gives off the faintest whiff of rot and corruption. It allows use of the following spells: • Stinking cloud (1 charge) • Cloudkill (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
01:26 <Avatar> the smoke domain is a variant fire domain and has stinking cloud
01:42 <Mekkis> just go straight fire.
01:47 <Mekkis> fireball
02:18 <Mekkis> pay someone at Paizo to make a domain that gets Battering Blast
03:07 <Avatar> Wall of Ashes (Su): At 8th level, you can create a wall of swirling ashes anywhere within 100 feet. This wall is up to 20 feet high and up to 10 feet long per cleric level you possess. The wall of ash blocks line of sight, and any creature passing through it must make a Fortitude save or be blinded for 1d4 rounds. The wall of ash reveals invisible creatures that are inside it or adjacent to it, 
03:07 <Avatar> although they become invisible again if they move away from the wall. You can use this ability for a number of minutes per day equal to your cleric level, but these minutes do not need to be consecutive.
03:51 <Avatar> replacement spells are good, but don't kick in until 7th caster level
04:06 <Avatar> that sounds better than fire resist 10 though
04:20 <Mekkis> fire resist 10 is good
04:25 <Avatar> you reckon
04:35 <Mekkis> you disagree?
04:45 <Avatar> I can't remember the last time I got some fire thrown at me
05:00 <Steven1> I disagree... you can get Fire Resist 20 from a second level spell.
06:06 <Avatar> am I reading that right, 20ft high per cleric level and 10ft long per cleric level?
06:11 <Avatar> that's insane
06:26 <Steven1> its 20ft tall
06:47 <Avatar> and 10ft per caster level?
06:53 <Steven1> yeah i think so.
06:59 <Avatar> that is still crazy
07:06 <Steven1> it is pretty good.
44:20 <Avatar> do some deities not allow subdomains of their own domains
44:25 <Avatar> sarenrae has fire but not ash
44:45 <Avatar> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Deities_Quick_Reference
44:47 <Avatar> according to that
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36:48 <Avatar> I can't bring myself to dump dex
36:54 <Avatar> I try but I feel dirty
37:40 <Avatar> clerics can dump int safely can't they
37:45 <Avatar> 10 is the same as a 7?
42:27 <Avatar> clerics have awful reflex saves as well, +3 all the way to level 11
52:24 <Brunius> clerics can dump cha
07:50 <s_gmusic> herro
09:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, Kernigahn's statline was 10/12/12/11/16/14 before racial mods
10:11 <Mekkis> To be fair, if I was creating a cleric to the concept I proposed, I'd probably dump str
17:10 <s_gmusic> so if I have this right: to get a new spell in my spellbook in PFS, I only have to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) and handwave the Spellcraft roll by Taking 10 on it (my Spellcraft is 11, so it'd be 21). How do I list this on a chronicle, then? Just as "Gold Spent"?
20:16 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, no, you need to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) to get access to the spell, followed by a slightly larger amount of gold (spell level squared x 10) to put it in your spellbook. Just put it on your chronicle sheet as "scribing costs, see attached", and attach a sheet listing spells and their costs.
23:49 <s_gmusic> ah, got it.
24:25 <s_gmusic> also, how do these faction changes work? do I get to keep all my fame and prestige from the old faction, or is some of it lost?
00:04 <Mekkis> you keep everything
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