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00:01:30 <Mekkis> Heresy is a 5-9.
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02:34:11 <mib_2ofi86> umm hello?
02:35:07 <mib_2ofi86> where can i find games??
02:39:31 <mib_2ofi86> anybody hello??
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02:46:54 <ricky> fuck
02:46:59 <ricky> i dont get this shit
02:47:28 <Steven> so what it is?
02:47:42 <ricky> /quote PONG DLHZPRXFJB
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02:57:41 <Avatar> yo
02:58:18 <Avatar> building a cleric is dumb
03:22:32 <Avatar> Mekkis: how long until diebot gets ACG feats/spells
03:22:36 <Avatar> \items
03:22:59 <Avatar> it turns out there's no feather/ash combo I could find, only feather/fire
03:23:18 <Avatar> and it turns out some deities don't actually take on subdomains of their own domains, complicating the entire domain system
03:56:27 <Steven> Made dinner.
03:56:30 <Steven> Lasagna
03:56:34 <Steven> nom nom nom
03:57:17 <Avatar> steven
03:57:19 <Avatar> cleric feats
03:57:19 <Avatar> go
03:58:33 <Steven> selective channeling, extra channel
03:58:56 <Steven> spell focus
03:59:01 <Steven> greater spell focus
03:59:33 <Avatar> no I have a 7 int
04:00:19 <Avatar> I would prefer to avoid extra channel in favour of something better if channeling is going to be healing only
04:01:16 <Steven> what does int 7 have anything to do with any of the feats i mentioned?
04:02:21 <Steven> divine interference
04:13:56 <Avatar> there's a pre-req of int 13 for the spell focus line
04:14:05 <Avatar> can take spell focus but not the others
04:14:12 <Avatar> divine interference is level 10+
04:14:14 <Avatar> I'm level 9
04:14:33 <Avatar> level 9 is also a small problem for the roc idea as well, because I'm medium size and so is it
04:14:49 <Steven> spell focus doesnt require anything
04:14:58 <Avatar> spell focus doesn't, the others in that line do
04:15:25 <Steven> you dont need spell specialization
04:15:27 <Avatar> possibly not greater spell focus actually, but that's 2 feats for +2 on the DC, bit weak when i'm feat starved
04:15:39 <Steven> take boon companion or something.
04:15:47 <Avatar> !feat boon companion
04:15:48 <diebot> Avatar, BREW POTION [Item Creation]Prereq: Caster level 3rd. You can create magic potions.
04:15:48 <diebot> Benefit: You can create a potion of any 3rd-level or lower spell that you know and that targets one or more creatures or objects. Brewing a potion takes 2 hours if its base price is 250 gp or less, otherwise brewing a potion takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. When you create a potion, you set the caster level, which must be
04:15:48 <diebot> sufficient to cast the spell in question and no higher than your own level. To brew a potion, you must use up raw materials costing one half this base price. See the magic item creation rules in Magic Items for more information. When you create a potion, you make any choices that you would normally make when casting the spell. Whoever drinks the
04:15:48 <diebot> potion is the target of the spell. Source: Core
04:15:53 <Avatar> wtf
04:16:21 <Avatar> nah I will just buy reduce person potions for a few levels I think
04:16:29 <Avatar> way better than taking a feat for it
04:16:35 <Avatar> *for a few scenarios, not a few levels
04:18:38 <Steven> I got punched by accident today.
04:19:42 <Avatar> how do you get punched by accident
04:20:05 <Steven> i was trying to duck between some friends who were rough housing in the store and had really bad timing.
04:20:20 <Avatar> ops
04:20:20 <Steven> caught a jab to the right eye.
04:20:25 <Avatar> are you okay
04:20:42 <Steven> yeah.
04:21:13 <Steven> was just a jab.
04:21:19 <Mekkis> certainly.
04:21:21 <Steven> how about worshiping http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Vildeis
04:21:24 <Mekkis> I asked that question years ago
04:21:39 <Avatar> terrible domains
04:21:43 <Steven> she is all about martyrdom
04:21:50 <Avatar> even a terrible favoured weapon, a dagger? are you serious
04:21:54 <Steven> pick up Sepratist Cleric
04:21:55 <Steven> just sucked.
04:22:25 <Avatar> I would kind of like a deity that has two good domains rather than one
04:22:33 <Avatar> if I can help it
04:22:44 <Steven> i mean, i totally fucked with the guy who did it, but i wasnt actually mad.
04:23:52 <Steven> iunno the resurrection domain is pretty awesome.
04:24:17 <Steven> oh so and so died... we REALLY need that front liner/caster
04:24:20 <Mekkis> What about Easivra
04:24:26 <Steven> well... get up and fight some more.
04:24:44 <Mekkis> Has the Feather and the Sun domains
04:25:13 <Mekkis> Sun domain gives you the best blasting spell of all
04:25:35 <Mekkis> (and also the ability to Really give Darkness the middle finger)
04:26:08 <Avatar> that really isn't as good as the heroism domain
04:26:23 <Mekkis> Didn't think Erastil had that
04:26:28 <Avatar> yeah, glory
04:26:32 <Steven> anyways...
04:26:51 <Avatar> oh wait a sec
04:27:07 <Mekkis> I would disagree
04:27:09 <Avatar> yeah you're right, that ruins my day a bit
04:27:11 <Avatar> was going to go with stats 14/9/14/7/20/16
04:27:18 <Avatar> that's with human and 4th & 8th
04:27:28 <Mekkis> heroism domain isn't THAT good
04:27:28 <Avatar> and a headband
04:27:36 <Steven> We have a group getting together to play through all the levels of emerald spire.
04:27:42 <Avatar> hmmmmm that doesn't look right actually
04:28:02 <Avatar> don't know about that
04:28:05 <Avatar> 30ft aura of heroism is sweet as
04:28:14 <Avatar> spellcasting/support, hello!
04:28:22 <Avatar> I guess I'd make a gunslinger or a witch to do it
04:28:36 <Avatar> my favourite classes in the whole wide worrld
04:28:41 <Avatar> the spells suck a bit
04:28:42 <Mekkis> not as good as a spell that does 11d8+88 damage at level 11.
04:28:59 <Avatar> what spell is that
04:29:05 <Steven> i'm a big fan of divine casters.
04:29:06 <Mekkis> Fire Seeds
04:29:52 <Avatar> I found a couple of potentially sweet feats in the ACG
04:30:02 <Avatar> one lets you use the spirit animal thing for your animal companion
04:30:11 <Avatar> and one of the shaman's spirit animals gives you DR 5/adamantine
04:30:29 <Avatar> that's 8d8+11
04:30:37 <Avatar> another gives you fast healing 1, another gives you a 5 or 10ft fly speed
04:30:43 <Avatar> another gives it constant blur
04:30:43 <Steven> yup yup
04:30:48 <Avatar> very cool feat
04:30:51 <Avatar> you can change it each day too
04:30:54 <Avatar> and it sounds like I have to hurt myself to use them
04:31:07 <Avatar> the other one I can't remember
04:31:13 <Avatar> it's not a 5ft range increment, it's 'you can throw it only 5ft'
04:31:24 <Avatar> reactive healing
04:31:30 <Avatar> if that is the case I would be hoping another healer is around the place
04:31:35 <Avatar> if you drop below 0, as an immediate action, you channel and heal yourself
04:31:40 <Steven> yup yup
04:31:47 <Avatar> amazing feat, better than toughness!
04:32:00 <Avatar> average 18 healing at level 9
04:32:27 <Avatar> I considered taking an exotic weapon proficiency for the tetsubo as well
04:32:34 <Steven1> isnt there a diety thats favorite animal is an eagle... brb gonna go look.
04:32:34 <Avatar> 1d10 with x4 critical
04:32:36 <Mekkis> It's "Swoop down, drop it, fly back up, BOOM!"
04:32:37 <Avatar> even 10d4 is pretty shit at level 10
04:32:43 <Avatar> but I don't know if I'll be getting into melee much for that to be worth it
04:32:51 <Avatar> oh, excellent point
04:32:52 <Avatar> I don't know if my 14 str is worth it yet
04:33:00 <Avatar> I just know 10 str 10 dex fucked me up completely
04:33:03 <Mekkis> Or: Cast Resist Energy on the fighter (or your roc), and get them to toe-to-toe the enemy
04:33:03 <Avatar> ok so that stops me hurting myself, but still 8d8+11
04:33:19 <Mekkis> 8d8+88
04:33:25 <Steven1> Ketephys
04:33:30 <Mekkis> each berry does 1d8+11 damage
04:33:38 <Avatar> ohhhh
04:33:40 <Avatar> holy hell
04:33:53 <Steven1> yeah fire seeds is a decent spell against the right opponents.
04:34:03 <Mekkis> (those not immune to fire)
04:34:07 <Steven1> which can be said about just about any elemental spells
04:34:19 <Avatar> thank god demon season is over
04:34:27 <Steven1> yeah... now we have robot season!
04:34:28 <Avatar> that was becoming a nightmare for my alchemist
04:34:32 <Avatar> immune to fire, immune to poison
04:34:49 <Avatar> are robots immune to fire
04:34:50 <Mekkis> yeah, they're just immune to spells in general
04:35:11 <Mekkis> Thou Shalt Learn Thy Summons
04:35:34 <Steven1> avatar... how bout a cleric Alchemist.
04:36:01 <Avatar> one alchemist is enough
04:36:17 <Steven1> the fire seeds are are treated as Splash weapons.
04:36:18 <Avatar> as good as this fire seed roc plan sounds, it forces me to be a separatist
04:36:39 <Mekkis> how?
04:36:56 <Mekkis> There are at least two deities that have both domains
04:37:00 <Avatar> which
04:37:11 <Avatar> I am only looking at the core rulebook, I might be missing some
04:37:12 <Steven1> there are no deities with both the fire and feather domains that are good aligned probably.
04:37:20 <Avatar> sun domain
04:37:21 <Mekkis> Horus
04:37:36 <Mekkis> Easivra
04:37:41 <Steven1> source book requirement.
04:37:41 <Mekkis> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Easivra
04:39:02 <Steven1> start planning your roleplay avatar. He is currently worshiped only by the sabosan, a race of nocturnal bat-like humanoids native to the Mwangi Expanse
04:39:19 <Avatar> are these in the ISWG
04:40:08 <Avatar> or what book ?
04:40:19 <Steven1> no he is in the council of theives AP and the heart of the jungle splat book
04:40:25 <Mekkis> Heart of the Jungle, which unfortunately isn't PFS legal
04:40:44 <Steven1> yeah... wonder if they put him in the inner sea gods table
04:40:56 <Mekkis> I'd just stick with Erastil
04:41:27 <Mekkis> there's still a multitude of stuff you can do without the Sun domain
04:41:35 <Mekkis> Searing light/Holy Smite
04:41:41 <Mekkis> Reach Bestow Curse
04:41:43 <Steven1> woot woot, they reprinted him in the table in Inner Sea gods.
04:41:46 <Mekkis> Blindness/Deafness
04:42:18 <Avatar> Easivra actually gets a minor mention in inner sea gods
04:42:34 <Avatar> not with domains/favoured weapon though
04:43:18 <Steven1> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Easivra
04:43:31 <Steven1> sadly i left my physical copy at the store tonight.
04:44:19 <Avatar> leaning back towards desna probably isn't a bad idea
04:44:44 <Steven1> no reason why you couldnt just go sepratist Desna.
04:46:56 <Avatar> separatist isn't actually as bad as I thought now that I meet the "2 levels later" issue anyway
04:47:26 <Mekkis> If you're going separatist, I'd get fire rather than Sun.
04:47:44 <Mekkis> Fireball on your spell list means: FUN WITH THE &staff of fire!
04:47:48 <diebot> STAFF OF FIRE [moderate evocation] CL:8 none 18950gp, 5lb
04:47:48 <diebot> Crafted from bronzewood with brass bindings, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Burning hands (1 charge) • Fireball (2 charges) • Wall of fire (3 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:48:11 <Steven1> you'd get an animal companion at level 6 and could pick up boon companion at level 7, and have a rock at -1lvl class level... sounds decent really.
04:50:06 <Avatar> the character is level 10 already
04:50:10 <Steven1> so at level 8 you'd be flying around beatin people down.
04:50:11 <Mekkis> see?
04:50:14 <Mekkis> What's the issue?
04:50:23 <Mekkis> Flying around fireballing peoples
04:50:39 <Steven1> oh man... i didnt know you had 10 levels of playing to work with.
04:50:55 <Avatar> yeah lots of GM credit on this one because I hated playing him at lower levels
04:51:21 <Avatar> turns out even at higher levels he was a bit shit to play because I couldn't work out how to play a cleric
04:51:32 <Avatar> the beginning of waking rune was a bit embarassing
04:51:54 <Mekkis> the end was even more embarassing
04:52:07 <Steven1> was the middle embarassing?
04:52:15 <Mekkis> The aftermath was an embarrassment to everyone
04:52:44 <Avatar> I think in terms of embarrassment from not so embarassing to most embarassing, it went, the beginning, the middle, the end
04:52:58 <Avatar> and yes probably the aftermath was the worst
04:53:20 <Avatar> but lucky for me it overshadowed how badly I played my cleric at the beginning
04:53:28 <Avatar> I mean it was terrible
04:53:52 <Avatar> which reminds me, which faction did ulzef pick for his pirate
04:54:04 <Avatar> I need to change Buck's faction to that
04:54:24 <Mekkis> exchangr\e
04:54:41 <Avatar> that makes sense
04:55:05 <Avatar> weird choice for Buck, but okay
04:56:49 <Steven1> hey avatar how badly do you want to be able to channel... is that something we can tinker with?
04:56:56 <Avatar> sure
04:57:06 <Avatar> it can be toned down but not removed
04:57:14 <Steven1> oh.... damn....
04:57:19 <Avatar> what were you thinking
04:57:26 <Avatar> the alternative had want to be amazing
04:57:44 <Steven1> cause i was gonna say... if we went for flying insane dropping bombs on people... i got something for that lol
04:58:12 <Avatar> talk to me
04:58:24 <Steven1> Human Divine Hunter w/ the feather domain.
04:59:08 <Steven1> you would have a Celetial Roc that could have +6 to an ability score you decide.
04:59:39 <Steven1> 2 from level 2 from eye for talent 2 from class ability.
05:00:28 <Steven1> so... instead of say a 20str roc you would have a 26str roc.
05:00:33 <Steven1> that is celestial
05:00:48 <Avatar> I think you might need to slow down a bit
05:00:52 <Avatar> what book is any of that in
05:01:01 <Steven1> Advanced Class guide.
05:01:36 <Avatar> divine hunter? no?
05:01:40 <Steven1> You'd be a Hunter not a Cleric... but if you wanted to do crazy stuff like ride a roc around and wreck people... that would be the way to go
05:01:49 <Avatar> no way, must stay a cleric
05:02:08 <Avatar> that is an enormous change
05:02:42 <Steven1> druids have just as many buff spells as clerics do. they just happen to be more single target rather than aoe like bless and prayer
05:04:29 <Steven1> the other pretty stupid thing about the hunter build is you get a free belt of your choosing.
05:05:57 <Avatar> man I would really love the travel domain, I keep looking at it and salivating
05:07:58 <Mekkis> Yay. Almost all my levelling is done
05:08:18 <Avatar> this is the problem with separatist: all of the abilities say 3+wis modifier, and that gets dropped by 2
05:09:42 <Avatar> what is that staff that has cloudkill?
05:09:49 <Steven1> iunno
05:09:51 <Avatar> is that the one that got grandfathered
05:09:52 <Mekkis> toxins
05:10:05 <Avatar> is that high priced now
05:10:08 <Mekkis> it's still around, but it did get grandfathered
05:10:13 <Avatar> urgh
05:10:13 <Mekkis> !item staff of toxins
05:10:19 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF TOXINS [moderate varies] CL:9 none 34200gp, 5lb
05:10:19 <diebot> This length of hemlock-shrouded oak gives off the faintest whiff of rot and corruption. It allows use of the following spells: • Stinking cloud (1 charge) • Cloudkill (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
05:10:23 <Avatar> the smoke domain is a variant fire domain and has stinking cloud
05:10:39 <Mekkis> just go straight fire.
05:10:44 <Mekkis> fireball
05:11:15 <Mekkis> pay someone at Paizo to make a domain that gets Battering Blast
05:12:04 <Avatar> Wall of Ashes (Su): At 8th level, you can create a wall of swirling ashes anywhere within 100 feet. This wall is up to 20 feet high and up to 10 feet long per cleric level you possess. The wall of ash blocks line of sight, and any creature passing through it must make a Fortitude save or be blinded for 1d4 rounds. The wall of ash reveals invisible creatures that are inside it or adjacent to it,
05:12:04 <Avatar> although they become invisible again if they move away from the wall. You can use this ability for a number of minutes per day equal to your cleric level, but these minutes do not need to be consecutive.
05:12:48 <Avatar> replacement spells are good, but don't kick in until 7th caster level
05:13:02 <Avatar> that sounds better than fire resist 10 though
05:13:17 <Mekkis> fire resist 10 is good
05:13:22 <Avatar> you reckon
05:13:32 <Mekkis> you disagree?
05:13:34 <Steven> just went and checked out my eye... got a little swelling on the lower eyelid.
05:13:42 <Avatar> I can't remember the last time I got some fire thrown at me
05:13:48 <Steven> makes me look like i've been rubbing my eye a lot.
05:13:57 <Steven1> I disagree... you can get Fire Resist 20 from a second level spell.
05:15:02 <Avatar> am I reading that right, 20ft high per cleric level and 10ft long per cleric level?
05:15:08 <Avatar> that's insane
05:15:23 <Steven1> its 20ft tall
05:15:44 <Avatar> and 10ft per caster level?
05:15:50 <Steven1> yeah i think so.
05:15:56 <Avatar> that is still crazy
05:16:03 <Steven1> it is pretty good.
05:34:22 <Steven> think im going to make a Kitsune for Emerald Spire
05:53:17 <Avatar> do some deities not allow subdomains of their own domains
05:53:22 <Avatar> sarenrae has fire but not ash
05:53:42 <Avatar> http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Deities_Quick_Reference
05:53:44 <Avatar> according to that
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06:22:13 <Avatar> the bless equipment feats sound pretty amazing
06:22:17 <Avatar> pity they are in an obscure book
06:28:54 <Avatar> i don't get this shiz :(((
06:29:08 <Avatar> wuts a chat room ?
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07:45:45 <Avatar> I can't bring myself to dump dex
07:45:51 <Avatar> I try but I feel dirty
07:46:37 <Avatar> clerics can dump int safely can't they
07:46:42 <Avatar> 10 is the same as a 7?
07:50:48 <Avatar> clerics have awful reflex saves as well, +3 all the way to level 11
08:01:21 <Brunius> clerics can dump cha
08:16:48 <s_gmusic> herro
08:18:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, Kernigahn's statline was 10/12/12/11/16/14 before racial mods
08:19:08 <Mekkis> To be fair, if I was creating a cleric to the concept I proposed, I'd probably dump str
08:26:07 <s_gmusic> so if I have this right: to get a new spell in my spellbook in PFS, I only have to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) and handwave the Spellcraft roll by Taking 10 on it (my Spellcraft is 11, so it'd be 21). How do I list this on a chronicle, then? Just as "Gold Spent"?
08:29:14 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, no, you need to pay a small amount of gold (spell level squared x 5) to get access to the spell, followed by a slightly larger amount of gold (spell level squared x 10) to put it in your spellbook. Just put it on your chronicle sheet as "scribing costs, see attached", and attach a sheet listing spells and their costs.
08:32:47 <s_gmusic> ah, got it.
08:33:22 <s_gmusic> also, how do these faction changes work? do I get to keep all my fame and prestige from the old faction, or is some of it lost?
09:09:02 <Mekkis> you keep everything
12:43:08 <mib_2ofi86> umm hello?
12:44:05 <mib_2ofi86> where can i find games??
12:48:28 <mib_2ofi86> anybody hello??
12:55:51 <ricky> fuck
12:55:57 <ricky> i dont get this shit
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13:52:30 <Mekkis> Heresy is a 5-9.
16:37:52 <Avatar> i don't get this shiz :(((
16:38:06 <Avatar> wuts a chat room ?
18:40:27 <Avatar> it's not impossible that I could run a pickup game of heresy tonight if I finally read the damn thing
18:40:45 <Avatar> it would only be tonight, not tomorrow or sunday, if this week
18:41:04 <Avatar> going to a slot zero on sunday, so it's already a stretch
18:41:35 <Avatar> not to mention I don't know if we can muster 3 7-11s
18:41:41 <Avatar> on a moment's notice
18:42:02 <Avatar> although I know that's brunius' preferred way to sign up !
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20:56:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, the reason 10 str/10 dex fucked you was you weren't high enough level
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