// #d&d — 2014-09-15
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01:08:42 <s_gmusic> here's a thing: when playing 6-03 The Technic Siege, have a face character in the party.
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06:57:17 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, I don't understand why you'd make a character with absolutely no social skills
07:22:31 <Avatar> yeah the latest seasons have done a really good job on emphasising their need
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12:17:32 <s_gmusic> it was an old character I made pre-season 5
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16:44:58 <Avatar> yo
16:49:17 <Steven> yo
16:53:07 <Avatar> found a way to relieve my boredom at work: make new characters and fix existing ones!
16:53:17 <Avatar> started putting together an investigator
16:53:24 <Avatar> they are pretty damn amazing
16:53:35 <Avatar> possibly a bit shit in combat
16:53:49 <Steven> and by possibly you mean are.
16:54:05 <Avatar> yeah I am not too sure how to get around it
16:54:16 <Steven> you basically make it a flanking buddy.
16:54:21 <Avatar> was going to weapon finesse a sword cane
16:54:32 <Steven> grab body guard and a benevolent armor.
16:54:33 <Avatar> feels like a losing battle though
16:54:40 <Steven> and just help people not get hit
16:54:47 <Avatar> what do those do
16:55:02 <Steven> bodyguard lets you use an AoO to aid another persons defence
16:55:24 <Avatar> I am kind of more worried about my defence
16:56:03 <Steven> benevolent armor enchant is whenever you aid another for defence they get a bonus to the aid equal to your armor enchant.
16:56:06 <Avatar> looks kind of similar to my archaeologist's defence situation
16:56:20 <Steven> so if you have a +4 chainshirt or whatever, when you aid another they get a +6 AC to their armor.
16:56:38 <Avatar> mate I am never going to get a +4 chain shirt
16:56:42 <Avatar> is benevolent a +1 bonus
16:57:11 <Steven> i think it might be.
16:57:16 <Steven> but anyways
16:57:25 <Steven> its something to do in combat that will help with survivability
16:57:43 <Steven> and no its +2000g
16:58:27 <Steven> one of my characters does the whole bodyguard thing.
16:59:31 <Avatar> if I was a bad guy and the big hitter was getting +6 AC from the guy in the back, I'd probably be trying to hit the squishy guy in the back
17:01:43 <Steven> yeah... but if you're rocking a a +4 armor with a dex character you're likely pretty hard to hit yourself
17:02:41 <Avatar> by the time you can get +4 armor, I don't think so
17:03:09 <Steven> level 5-6...
17:03:11 <Avatar> with a 16 dex (I think i'm 14, but let's say 16), that's +4 armor +4 enhancement, +3 dex
17:03:17 <Avatar> 21 AC blerg?
17:03:34 <Avatar> how much is a +4 bonus on aror
17:03:36 <Avatar> armor*
17:03:39 <Steven> if you're only rocking +3 dex might as well go mithril chainmail.
17:03:44 <Avatar> maybe I am thinking weapons
17:03:55 <Avatar> is it 16000gp?
17:04:37 <Steven> total cost of +4 Belnevolent mithril chainmail would be 22k
17:04:54 <Avatar> mate who has 22k at level 5-6
17:05:08 <Avatar> let me open up my level 6 alchemist and see how much he has
17:05:08 <Steven> so 6-7th level
17:05:49 <Steven> but the start to that is 7k
17:05:50 <Avatar> 5032gp
17:06:09 <Avatar> all he has is a headband of int +2
17:06:15 <Avatar> and a haversack
17:06:33 <Avatar> so basically if I go without any items, I might be able to get half way to this armor you're talking about
17:08:53 <Steven> my level 4 has 5.7k
17:09:27 <Steven> so it will have 7.2k at 5th level.
17:09:40 <Avatar> if he doesn't buy anything
17:09:46 <Avatar> is your level 4 a GM credit baby
17:10:02 <Steven> yeah, I played him tonight.
17:10:11 <Steven> bought armor and a weapon.
17:10:41 <Steven> didnt need much else really.
17:10:41 <Avatar> you bought armor and a weapon at level 4 for the first time?
17:10:51 <Avatar> is he a monk
17:10:54 <Steven> nope
17:11:01 <Steven> he is... complicated.
17:11:02 <Avatar> this character doesn't count man
17:11:42 <Steven> why doesnt he count?
17:11:47 <Steven> becaue i built him too well?
17:11:53 <Avatar> he isn't normal
17:12:01 <Steven> he is normal.
17:12:02 <Avatar> you didn't build him well, he is a GM credit baby
17:13:04 <Steven> alright... i'll go to a different character
17:13:35 <Steven> Level 7...
17:13:45 <Avatar> you know what I'm saying right, if it's got exp put on it from GM credit, you don't have to make any purchases up until you play him
17:13:58 <Avatar> which is different to a regular character you play from early on
17:14:34 <Steven> so level 7 total gold earned is 27k
17:15:19 <Avatar> class?
17:15:34 <Steven> they bought a +2 headband some mundane armor, a dagger, and an amulet of mighty fists.
17:15:51 <Steven> so 18k or round abouts left for whatever.
17:16:35 <Steven> could totally buy a +3mithril chainmail and give +5AC to people if they wanted.
17:16:46 <Steven> point being 20k isnt a lot of gold.
17:17:03 <Avatar> I have to find where my money is going
17:17:24 <Steven> are your GMs just nickle and diming it out of you?
17:17:37 <Steven> oh this guy wants a bribe... 150g please.
17:17:54 <Avatar> no
17:18:15 <Avatar> I haven't actually played that much over the last year I think, a lot of GMing
17:18:34 <Steven> are you spending gold on things you could spend prestige on?
17:19:02 <Avatar> Snickers is spending quite a lot on restorations and resurrections
17:19:37 <Steven> yeah... that character got pretty boned.
17:26:33 <Avatar> I'm looking at an online con on warhorn that has 6 GMs and 9 players
17:26:40 <Avatar> for bonekeep 3
17:26:49 <Avatar> is there some kind of hot boon that is making people jump to GM
17:26:59 <Steven> yeah... not dying.
17:27:18 <Steven> all rewards with no risk is awesome
17:31:10 <Avatar> shit reason to jump on GMing
17:31:19 <Avatar> like that
17:37:38 <Steven> happens.
17:47:25 <Mekkis> there are some pretty nice boons on Bonekeep 3
17:49:11 <Avatar> maybe that's just how they recruit GMs, free for all signups on warhorn, I dunno
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17:59:58 <Mekkis> hey, I survived Bonekeep 3...
18:00:20 <Mekkis> all but one room cleared
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18:10:50 <Steven> building a vivisectionist.
18:12:05 <Avatar> the illegal ones
18:12:18 <Steven> yeah
18:12:22 <Steven> its not for pfs
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18:27:18 <Avatar> go all out and build a synthesists then !
18:27:21 <Avatar> or two
18:27:32 <Steven> nah, Its for kingmaker.
18:27:40 <Steven> turns out 3 people are making melee characters.
18:27:49 <Avatar> be a synthesist king
18:28:04 <Steven> so I'm gonna make a stealthy ranged attacking dude.
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18:39:09 <spider21b> hi
18:50:37 <Mekkis> hi
18:52:21 <Steven> sup
19:14:00 <spider21b> any games this weekend?
19:15:38 <Brunius_> /topic #d&d
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23:01:20 <Mekkis> !search rust
23:01:23 <diebot> Mekkis, 32 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
23:01:33 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
23:01:37 <Mekkis> !search rust
23:01:38 <diebot> Mekkis, 32 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
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