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51:26 <Mekkis> back in ausland
56:39 <Lintor> w00t
13:52 <Steven> well... looks like Kingmaker is the next AP thats going to be ran.
34:17 <Mekkis> Good Oracle spells?
35:27 <Steven> see the discussion about Good Cleric Spells.
38:54 <Mekkis> can you recommend any?
39:57 <Mekkis> !spell luck y number
39:57 <diebot> Mekkis, LUCK Y NUMBER transmutation ([]) bard 1, cleric/oracle 1, druid 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: touch one willing creature Comp: V, S Duration: 24 hours or until discharged Save: none SR:noSource: Occult Mysteries
39:58 <diebot> You are able to tweak tiny variables affecting a creature's immediate future in order to grant the target a bit of luck at the right time. Roll a d20; once during the duration of lucky number, when the target creature rolls that result (regardless of what type of dice the target rolls), the creature has the option to either reroll the result or add
39:58 <diebot> a +2 luck bonus to the result. The creature must decide to use this ability before the success or failure of the original roll is known. A creature can have only one lucky number at a time. If lucky number is cast on a creature already affected by that spell, the new number replaces the previous one.
40:26 <Steven> they are pretty standardized with your build.. 
40:31 <Steven> buffers get bless and what not
40:46 <Steven> healers pretty much get the resist spells and what not
40:51 <Mekkis> Bless, Command, Liberating Command, Murderous Command?
41:05 <Steven> and battle oracles pick up the self buffs like wrath and what not.
41:31 <Steven> blasters pick up anything that deals damage for the most part.
42:03 <Steven> controllers pick up the control spells
42:12 <Steven> yeah those are fine spells.
42:14 <Mekkis> !spell cause fear
42:15 <diebot> Mekkis, CAUSE FEAR necromancy ([emotion, fear, mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, bard 1, cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one living creature with 5 or fewer HD Comp: V, S Duration: 1d4 rounds or 1 round; see text Save: Will partial SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
42:15 <diebot> The affected creature becomes frightened. If the subject succeeds on a Will save, it is shaken for 1 round. Creatures with 6 or more HD are immune to this effect. Cause fear counters and dispels remove fear.
42:44 <Mekkis> I'll drop Murderous Command for Cause Fear
42:49 <Mekkis> should be good.
43:51 <Steven> the only problem with cause fear is the hit die limit.
44:56 <Mekkis> So at tier 1-2, should be fine
45:43 <Steven> yeah but should probably switch it out the first chance you get.
46:02 <Mekkis> at 4th. Sounds good
46:17 <Mekkis> This is for my diceless character
47:41 <Mekkis> Actually, I need to drop one of them for Infernal Healing. Suggestions?
53:19 <Mekkis> Hmmm... Skills are an issue. I need ones that I can take 10 on.
38:14 <Mekkis> how easy would it be to remotely trigger a barrel of gunpowder in PFS?
48:00 <Avatar> dazing isn't mind affecting?
03:28 <Mekkis> Steven, do you think that binding an Avoral, at level 13, would be a balanced move?
03:31 <Mekkis> you know, just to have it as a companion during your exploits
04:07 <Steven> no clue whatcha talkin bout mang.
04:36 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/agathion/agathion-avoral
04:38 <Mekkis> that outsider
04:49 <Mekkis> seems to be really useful as far as a companion
05:22 <Steven> sure sure... do it up... long as its legal.
09:15 <Mekkis> Would Remove Fear stop a haunt mid-manifestation?
02:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, nope
07:42 <Mekkis> !item staff of eidolons
07:44 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF EIDOLONS [moderate conjuration and transmutation] CL:8 none 14400gp, 5lb
07:45 <diebot> This crooked staff is made of mahogany and decorated with the bones of eidolons that jut out of the wood. It allows the use of the following spells: • Lesser rejuvenate eidolon (1 charge; Advanced Player's Guide) • Unfetter (1 charge; Advanced Player's Guide) • Lesser evolution surge (2 charges; Advanced Player's Guide) Source: Ultimate
07:45 <diebot> Equipment
18:17 <Avatar> I have to pick that up for Snickers asap
25:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you going to unicon?
25:55 <Avatar> yeah
26:11 <Avatar> supposed to be slot zeroing legacy of the stonelords for it tomorrow but the planning is a mess
26:26 <Mekkis> Could you do me a favour?
26:42 <Avatar> what
26:54 <Mekkis> There's a guy who goes to those cons and prints mugs. I need one printed.
27:19 <Avatar> never seen a guy who prints mugs
27:35 <Mekkis> you've never been to the dealer stands?
27:45 <Avatar> yeah I have bought dice from them
28:21 <Avatar> what do you want on your mug
28:55 <Mekkis> Some elvish. I can send you a picture
29:04 <Avatar> ok
29:14 <Avatar> he can print stuff in elvish?
29:49 <Avatar> reminds me of this chick I knew at school
29:55 <Avatar> she was wiccan, or into witchcraft, or something
30:07 <Mekkis> he prints images. 
30:09 <Avatar> she had this letter written in runic and I got curious about it
30:20 <Mekkis> did you hit on her?
30:20 <Avatar> I asked if I could have a look, and she passed it over to me
30:24 <Avatar> and I started to translate it
30:29 <Avatar> she snatched it off me
33:24 <Mekkis> Oh...
37:54 <Mekkis> What did you get?
38:04 <Avatar> what do you mean
38:41 <Avatar> she obviously wrote it in 'code' so only her and the intended recipient would understand it
39:02 <Avatar> I only got a few words in before she realised what was going on
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28:15 <Steven> decided i'm going to just break the hell out of a terrible archetype from one of the core classes
13:42 <Mekkis> http://www.damninteresting.com/transforming-the-earth/
13:50 <Mekkis> wrapping the earth in a d20
36:09 <Avatar> are bomber alchemists ever good in specials
53:55 <Steven> !hp 1d6m0-1
53:55 <diebot> Steven, Malformed expression: 0d6m0-1
55:39 <Mekkis> spider21b, I watched a bit of that film you posted. You should consider dollying the camera
55:59 <Mekkis> Having it look like someone's holding the camera isn't generally what you want
56:39 <spider21b> that was kinda my thing having two cameras
56:55 <spider21b> one was the one i was holding and the other was going to professionalish
56:58 <spider21b> good point thou
57:08 <Steven> yay.... my 'charge' now gets +4AC for 1 round.
58:00 <Mekkis> is the music yours?
58:12 <Steven> suppose i should just get combat reflexes for my 5th feat.
58:19 <spider21b> nope
58:27 <spider21b> both public domain stuff
01:57 <Steven> crapstack! i jsut remember i am GMing Rise of the Runelords later today.
03:09 <Mekkis> what part?
07:06 <Avatar> ops
08:18 <Steven> on book 6 of 6 for Rise of the Runelords
08:38 <Mekkis> not sure. Heneski didn't have much trouble in the special...
09:47 <spider21b> really today?
09:54 <spider21b> what level is it?
11:24 <Steven> in two rounds i popped somebody for 16 Dex Drain
13:03 <Steven\> think they are on the 14-16 level one... the runeforge.
13:43 <spider21b> oh god i dont have any character that high
16:23 <spider21b> i wish i did
18:27 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
18:56 <Mekkis> the scroll of restoration is a pretty good thing to carry around these days, I think
19:38 <Steven> in a round if somebody fails their saves, 20 dex drain is the max.
20:30 <Brunius`> Avatar ping
22:03 <spider21b> where has my life turned into ?
22:16 <spider21b> = lots of level ones and one level 7
22:29 <spider21b> and maybe a level 4 and a 3 xd
24:07 <Avatar> wut
24:39 <Brunius`> nevermind, found it in the logs
24:43 <Brunius`> sorry to disturb you
24:52 <Steven> what up 
25:08 <Avatar> didn't disturb me
29:35 <Steven> damn cant decide what i want to apply the credit to these to.
37:45 <Steven> damn it i dont have a 16th level character
01:16 <Theta> (Having no idea how old the text above is) You're gonna have a blast on Legacy of the Stonelords. I got to play it a couple weeks ago here in the states. It was my first scenario where the entire room, 100+ people, was running the same thing. Amazing time.
12:34 <Steven> hmmmm.... do i want Temporial Stasis.
12:47 <Steven> DC31
14:57 <Mekkis> spider21b, the problem there is the 'lots of level ones'
19:20 <Steven> i could take Angelic Form Greater and punish my imp for imagined slights by making him the focus of it.
25:18 <Steven> Persistent DC35 Suffocation... aka Fight ender.
49:39 <Mekkis> Theta, I find that specials really lack in the roleplaying bit
50:04 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 13th 12pm? || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
50:04 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Sep 11 17:28:48 2014
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59:14 <Steven> think i'm gonna buy a spectral shroud...
05:54 <Mekkis> I was told, at waypoint, that Technologist was in the Guide.
05:55 <Mekkis> It isn't
06:05 <Avatar> of course it's not
06:25 <Avatar> there was talk about asking paizo to put it in there, but they wouldn't of course
06:51 <Steven> It is in the Technology Guide.
07:14 <Mekkis> When I played 6-01, the GM said that he'd use the rules if they made the game more fun. He stopped using the rules pretty quickly
07:15 <Steven> It is a feat tax for season 6 if you wanna tinker with things.
07:26 <Mekkis> it's a bullshit moneygrab
07:48 <Steven> i know... how dare paizo try to make money off a game they produce.
08:29 <Mekkis> there's trying, and there's extorting
08:55 <Steven> you dont have to play those PFS scenarios.
09:18 <Steven> depending on your location it is a hobby that is entirely up to you how much money you put into it.
09:23 <Mekkis> Does every VO respond to criticism like that?
09:53 <Steven> this has nothing to do with me being a VO
12:10 <Mekkis> !item ring of revelation
12:12 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF EVASION [moderate transmutation] CL:7 ring 25000gp, 0lb
12:13 <diebot> This ring continually grants the wearer the ability to avoid damage as if she had evasion. Whenever she makes a Reflex saving throw to determine whether she takes half damage, a successful save results in no damage. Source: Ultimate Equipment
12:16 <Steven> They run a business.  They put out products.  They want to be paid for those products.  If they can find ways to tie in some products with others and try to get you to purchase more products well that just sounds like a good business model.
13:03 <Mekkis> Steven, yes, and if you tie in products in such a way that alienates your customer-base, then it's a Bad business model
13:12 <Mekkis> s/model/practice/
14:00 <Steven> obviously not alienating more then they are gaining since they are growing still.
20:43 <Theta> Anyone have thoughts on the Blood Money/Fabricate spell combo?
21:45 <Steven> It's legal so long as the cast time isnt longer then a round is the last thing i heard.
22:18 <Theta> I was thinking more the infinite money.
22:41 <Mekkis> Theta, there are easier infinite money methods that are definitely PFS-legal
23:08 <Steven> way way easier.
23:31 <Theta> Indeed. Had a Venture-Captain using that method though. Was wondering what other players thought of it.
23:35 <Steven> remember in the early editions when you could buy a ladder, and then take the ladder apart to get 2 10ft poles and kindling and make money off of it.
23:45 <Avatar> I thought blood money isn't legal
23:49 <Mekkis> it is
24:06 <Steven> totes is.
24:21 <Steven> great spell if you dont wanna spend the diamond dust for restorations.
24:37 <Mekkis> I thought you said that wasn't legal?
24:53 <Steven> its legal some of the times.
24:55 <Mekkis> Given that restoration now takes 3 rounds to cast (down from a minute)
24:58 <Steven> i just went and looked at it.
25:08 <Steven> its one of those YMMV things
25:22 <Mekkis> pfft
25:34 <Mekkis> I've used it for Symbol of Revelation
25:37 <Mekkis> that's always good
25:52 <Theta> Our wizard was using it to ignore the costs of animate dead
26:11 <Mekkis> that's pretty common.
26:24 <Mekkis> I heard a pretty neat term at Waypoint
26:36 <Mekkis> "Evil in everything but alignment" 
40:17 <Steven> yo
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25:03 <Mekkis> Good Oracle spells?
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29:40 <Mekkis> can you recommend any?
30:43 <Mekkis> !spell luck y number
30:44 <diebot> Mekkis, LUCK Y NUMBER transmutation ([]) bard 1, cleric/oracle 1, druid 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: touch one willing creature Comp: V, S Duration: 24 hours or until discharged Save: none SR:noSource: Occult Mysteries
30:46 <diebot> You are able to tweak tiny variables affecting a creature's immediate future in order to grant the target a bit of luck at the right time. Roll a d20; once during the duration of lucky number, when the target creature rolls that result (regardless of what type of dice the target rolls), the creature has the option to either reroll the result or add
30:46 <diebot> a +2 luck bonus to the result. The creature must decide to use this ability before the success or failure of the original roll is known. A creature can have only one lucky number at a time. If lucky number is cast on a creature already affected by that spell, the new number replaces the previous one.
31:12 <Steven> they are pretty standardized with your build.. 
31:18 <Steven> buffers get bless and what not
31:35 <Steven> healers pretty much get the resist spells and what not
31:37 <Mekkis> Bless, Command, Liberating Command, Murderous Command?
31:52 <Steven> and battle oracles pick up the self buffs like wrath and what not.
32:22 <Steven> blasters pick up anything that deals damage for the most part.
32:51 <Steven> controllers pick up the control spells
33:00 <Mekkis> !spell cause fear
33:01 <Steven> yeah those are fine spells.
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33:02 <diebot> Mekkis, CAUSE FEAR necromancy ([emotion, fear, mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, bard 1, cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one living creature with 5 or fewer HD Comp: V, S Duration: 1d4 rounds or 1 round; see text Save: Will partial SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
33:02 <diebot> The affected creature becomes frightened. If the subject succeeds on a Will save, it is shaken for 1 round. Creatures with 6 or more HD are immune to this effect. Cause fear counters and dispels remove fear.
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33:30 <Mekkis> I'll drop Murderous Command for Cause Fear
33:34 <Mekkis> should be good.
34:38 <Steven> the only problem with cause fear is the hit die limit.
35:41 <Mekkis> So at tier 1-2, should be fine
36:30 <Steven> yeah but should probably switch it out the first chance you get.
36:47 <Mekkis> at 4th. Sounds good
37:03 <Mekkis> This is for my diceless character
38:22 <Mekkis> Actually, I need to drop one of them for Infernal Healing. Suggestions?
44:04 <Mekkis> Hmmm... Skills are an issue. I need ones that I can take 10 on.
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28:57 <Mekkis> how easy would it be to remotely trigger a barrel of gunpowder in PFS?
33:09 <Avatar> his level 7 has to be audited
47:20 <Mekkis> Steven, do you think that binding an Avoral, at level 13, would be a balanced move?
47:36 <Mekkis> you know, just to have it as a companion during your exploits
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54:10 <Mekkis> Steven, do you think that binding an Avoral, at level 13, would be a balanced move?
54:14 <Mekkis> you know, just to have it as a companion during your exploits
54:54 <Steven> no clue whatcha talkin bout mang.
55:22 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/agathion/agathion-avoral
55:25 <Mekkis> that outsider
55:36 <Mekkis> seems to be really useful as far as a companion
56:09 <Steven> sure sure... do it up... long as its legal.
00:01 <Mekkis> Would Remove Fear stop a haunt mid-manifestation?
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28:11 <Steven> damn i just dont feel like running a game today.
28:21 <Steven> hopefully that changes in the next 4 hours.
37:48 <Avatar> I know the feeling!
46:00 <Avatar> if I can quickly get my cleric finished this morning, I might not die today
54:45 <Mekkis> yeah. Playerxs getting you down?
55:20 <Steven> no just some bullshit i had to deal with today.
55:25 <Steven> family crap
56:02 <Avatar> 7 12 14 12 16 14
56:13 <Avatar> bumps to 7 12 14 12 20 16
56:23 <Avatar> does that sound good for a level 9 cleric
19:52 <Avatar> tough crowd
24:40 <Brunius`> avatar
24:47 <Brunius`> most people aren't up at 8am on a saturday morning
24:52 <Avatar> why not
24:54 <Avatar> I was up at 7
24:56 <Brunius`> that's why it's, as you say, a 'tough crowd'
24:58 <Avatar> up and at em
27:34 <Avatar> if I had to choose between running a game or going to work, I would run a game
28:19 <Theta> Well it's not quite 6:30pm here, so no problem being up on this side of the ocean. :)
28:31 <Avatar> Theta: are you using mirc
28:41 <Avatar> there's a way to turn on timestamps
29:00 <Avatar> options > IRC > Messages
29:26 <Theta> Nifty
29:41 <Avatar> I take it when you played stonelords you didnt' have a 4 player table
30:38 <Theta> Nadda. There were 6 at my table of Level 1-2. Only 2 lowbie tables. Most were in the 7+ area 
30:50 <Avatar> any tables that had 4 players?
31:38 <Theta> Probably not. Had 20 tables going at once, and I think some people had to sit due to lack of room. Don't think they could have afforded having a 4-man only
31:43 <Mekkis> so. Ecidon, dual-cursed spirit guide oracle...
32:51 <Mekkis> !feat dazing spell
32:53 <diebot> Mekkis, DAZING SPELL [Metamagic] You can daze creatures with the power of your spells.
32:53 <diebot> Benefit:  You can modify a spell to daze a creature damaged by the spell. When a creature takes damage from this spell, they become dazed for a number of rounds equal to the original level of the spell. If the spell allows a saving throw, a successful save negates the daze effect. If the spell does not allow a save, the target can make a Will
32:53 <diebot> save to negate the daze effect. If the spell effect also causes the creature to become dazed, the duration of this metamagic effect is added to the duration of the spell. A dazing spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell's actual level. Spells that do not inflict damage do not benefit from this feat. Source: APG
33:21 <Mekkis> damn, only damaging spells
34:03 <Avatar> Mekkis: when are you putting the ACG stuff on diebot
34:18 <Mekkis> any low-level cleric spells that do a fixed amount of damage and don't require an attack roll?
35:48 <Avatar> nope
36:32 <Mekkis> damn.
37:00 <Avatar> but you can bless!
38:20 <Steven> i hate dazing spell
39:05 <Avatar> I was thinking of taking it
39:10 <Avatar> on my exploiter wizard
39:37 <Steven> its pretty lame.
41:14 <Avatar> is it more lame than abilities like slumber
41:44 <Avatar> it seems quite similar to slumber actually, it's mind-affecting and requires a will save
41:49 <Steven> no its about the same.
41:59 <Avatar> 3 spell slots higher !
42:31 <Avatar> alright I am running way late
42:51 <Steven> and no its not mind effecting because it doesnt have that descriptor
01:03 <Mekkis> hmmm.. dazing consecreted sound burst...
04:44 <Mekkis> is spell resistance rolled p.er-spell or per-target?
08:32 <Avatar> !spell air step
08:35 <diebot> Avatar, AIR WALK transmutation ([air]) cleric/oracle 4, druid 4, alchemist 4 1 standard action Range: touch creature (Gargantuan or smaller) touched Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 10 min./level Save: none SR:yes (harmless)Source: PFRPG Core
08:35 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/air_walk.html
29:09 <Mekkis> sorry, I managed to get a flight five hours earlier...
29:35 <Avatar> Mekkis: would you allow a domain spell to be set for a preferred spell
29:58 <Mekkis> !feat preferred spell
29:59 <diebot> Mekkis, PREFERRED SPELL []Prereq:  Spellcraft 5 ranks, Heighten Spell.  You find it very easy to cast one particular spell.
30:00 <diebot> Benefit:  Choose one spell which you have the ability to cast. You can cast that spell spontaneously by sacrificing a prepared spell or spell slot of equal or higher level. You can apply any metamagic feats you possess to this spell when you cast it. This increases the minimum level of the prepared spell or spell slot you must sacrifice in order
30:00 <diebot> to cast it but does not affect the casting time.
30:00 <diebot> Special:  You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different spell. Source: APG
30:11 <Mekkis> sure.
30:24 <Avatar> even if you prepare the other domain spell?
30:46 <Mekkis> if you're going for the fireballing cleric, it's pretty normal to do that
30:51 <Avatar> cool
30:54 <Mekkis> sure
31:17 <Mekkis> (although the fireballing cleric should just buy a staff of fire.)
32:03 <Mekkis> (unless you think that six fireballs per scenario is Just Getting Startedd :)
32:06 <Avatar> yeah I have
32:15 <Avatar> but I already took preferred spell and I would prefer to keep it
32:25 <Avatar> even if it means assigning it to a different spell, but I want fireball out the wazoo if I can help it
32:32 <Avatar> possibly a bad idea
32:46 <Avatar> is there a better option for preferred spell
32:51 <Mekkis> ah. Six fireballs IS Just Getting Started!!
32:56 <Mekkis> I like it.
32:59 <Avatar> ya
33:07 <Avatar> I'm sort of worried about immunity to fire
33:14 <Avatar> but I have other things I can do
33:31 <Mekkis> being able to spontaneusly cast substituted empowered intensified fireballs...
33:50 <Mekkis> like substituted fireballs?
34:15 <Avatar> um
34:19 <Mekkis> !feat energy substitution
34:20 <diebot> Mekkis, EXTRA EVOLUTION []Prereq:  Eidolon class feature.  Your eidolon has more evolutions. 
34:20 <Avatar> I have heighten spell as well
34:20 <diebot> Benefit:  Your eidolon's evolution pool increases by 1.
34:20 <diebot> Special:  This evolution can be taken once at 1st level, and again at 5th, 10th, 15th and 20th. Source: UM
34:29 <Avatar> I'm not sure if you can heighten a preferred spell?
34:36 <Mekkis> sure you can
34:37 <Avatar> yeah it looks like you can
34:46 <Avatar> I doubt I ever would though, honestly
34:54 <Avatar> those high level spells are hardcore and in high demand
35:15 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/elemental-spell-metamagic
35:42 <Mekkis> yes, but...
36:33 <Mekkis> being able to throw out that Death Ward you prepared for a heighten fireball is a good thing, if the situation you're in doesn't require a death ward
36:57 <Avatar> I would never prepare death ward
37:07 <Steven> death ward is pretty awesome spell.
37:08 <Avatar> well maybe I would, apparently I wrote it on my spell list
37:29 <Avatar> you'd never use it unless you know a death spell is coming up?
37:35 <Avatar> it's not an immediate action
37:56 <Steven> if you've any information you're going up against a high level caster
38:05 <Steven> it is a pretty good buff.
38:23 <Avatar> mins/level
38:33 <Steven> yeah, its a precombat buff.
38:53 <Avatar> swapped out extra channelling for elemental spell
39:05 <Avatar> I'd struggle a bit to swap out a trait for magical lineage
39:12 <Steven> you could just buy a rod of it.... cheaper then a feat.
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39:53 <Mekkis> Steven, which one
40:16 <Avatar> yeah ok that's a no brainer
41:04 <Steven> avatar... DC 37 Persistent Suffocation
41:20 <Steven> seems pretty good.
41:22 <Avatar> OP
41:44 <Avatar> I don't want to take out encounters by myself unless it's with my fireballs
41:59 <Steven> thats basically what my suffocation is...
42:33 <Steven> i dont pull it out unless my character gets pissed because someone has insulted him, or i need to hit the oh shit button.
42:54 <Steven> otherwise i hit people with curses and Blindness/deafness
47:04 <Steven> im narrowing down the list
48:02 <Steven> well... i have completed all my purchases for the character... 50k left after my +5 book and robe.
50:10 <Steven> i could increase my weapon/armor i guess.
51:05 <Steven> get +7 armor and increase my AC to 15
53:42 <Mekkis> I'm looking at making a staff. A custom staff. Any suggestions?
54:27 <Avatar> any good cheap armor enchantments
57:52 <Steven> deathless is awesome
59:00 <Avatar> wow that is nice
08:29 <Steven> think i'm gonna buy a spectral shroud...
15:09 <Mekkis> I was told, at waypoint, that Technologist was in the Guide.
15:10 <Mekkis> It isn't
15:19 <Avatar> of course it's not
15:39 <Avatar> there was talk about asking paizo to put it in there, but they wouldn't of course
16:05 <Steven> It is in the Technology Guide.
16:29 <Mekkis> When I played 6-01, the GM said that he'd use the rules if they made the game more fun. He stopped using the rules pretty quickly
16:30 <Steven> It is a feat tax for season 6 if you wanna tinker with things.
16:41 <Mekkis> it's a bullshit moneygrab
17:03 <Steven> i know... how dare paizo try to make money off a game they produce.
17:44 <Mekkis> there's trying, and there's extorting
18:10 <Steven> you dont have to play those PFS scenarios.
18:33 <Steven> depending on your location it is a hobby that is entirely up to you how much money you put into it.
18:38 <Mekkis> Does every VO respond to criticism like that?
19:08 <Steven> this has nothing to do with me being a VO
21:25 <Mekkis> !item ring of revelation
21:27 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF EVASION [moderate transmutation] CL:7 ring 25000gp, 0lb
21:27 <diebot> This ring continually grants the wearer the ability to avoid damage as if she had evasion. Whenever she makes a Reflex saving throw to determine whether she takes half damage, a successful save results in no damage. Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:31 <Steven> They run a business.  They put out products.  They want to be paid for those products.  If they can find ways to tie in some products with others and try to get you to purchase more products well that just sounds like a good business model.
22:18 <Mekkis> Steven, yes, and if you tie in products in such a way that alienates your customer-base, then it's a Bad business model
22:27 <Mekkis> s/model/practice/
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22:31 <spider21b> hi
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23:15 <Steven> obviously not alienating more then they are gaining since they are growing still.
23:22 <Brunius> classic
29:58 <Theta> Anyone have thoughts on the Blood Money/Fabricate spell combo?
31:00 <Steven> It's legal so long as the cast time isnt longer then a round is the last thing i heard.
31:32 <Theta> I was thinking more the infinite money.
31:55 <Mekkis> Theta, there are easier infinite money methods that are definitely PFS-legal
32:22 <Steven> way way easier.
32:23 <Steven> thinkin of a Monk/rogue
32:45 <Theta> Indeed. Had a Venture-Captain using that method though. Was wondering what other players thought of it.
32:50 <Steven> remember in the early editions when you could buy a ladder, and then take the ladder apart to get 2 10ft poles and kindling and make money off of it.
32:59 <Avatar> I thought blood money isn't legal
33:04 <Mekkis> it is
33:21 <Steven> totes is.
33:36 <Steven> great spell if you dont wanna spend the diamond dust for restorations.
33:52 <Mekkis> I thought you said that wasn't legal?
34:07 <Steven> its legal some of the times.
34:10 <Mekkis> Given that restoration now takes 3 rounds to cast (down from a minute)
34:13 <Steven> i just went and looked at it.
34:22 <Steven> its one of those YMMV things
34:37 <Mekkis> pfft
34:49 <Mekkis> I've used it for Symbol of Revelation
34:52 <Mekkis> that's always good
35:07 <Theta> Our wizard was using it to ignore the costs of animate dead
35:26 <Mekkis> that's pretty common.
35:35 <Steven> might have to be a brawler so i can wear armor.
35:39 <Mekkis> I heard a pretty neat term at Waypoint
35:51 <Mekkis> "Evil in everything but alignment" 
36:10 <Theta> hmm. deep
37:50 <Steven> yeah after digging, the whole bloodmoney+resto thing i still up int he air.
37:58 <Steven> its why i've never bothered with the combo.
38:48 <Steven> suppose limited wish is legit though... just wish a restoration.
39:52 <Steven> 1d6 and 3 str damage to hit somebody with a resto aint bad really.
40:21 <Theta> Yea. give the cleric a wand of lesser restoration for afterwards, and you're good to go
46:30 <Mekkis> or, you could kill them, limited wish a reincarnate
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53:43 <Mekkis> !spell burst of radiance 
53:44 <diebot> Mekkis, BURST OF RADIANCE evocation ([good, light]) cleric/oracle 2, druid 2, sorcerer/wizard 2 1 standard action Range: long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, M/DF (a piece of flint and a pinch of silver dust) Duration: instantaneous Save: Reflex partial SR:yesSource: Champions Of Purity
53:44 <diebot> This spell fills the area with a brilliant flash of shimmering light. Creatures in the area are blinded for 1d4 rounds, or dazzled for 1d4 rounds if they succeed at a Reflex save. Evil creatures in the area of the burst take 1d4 points of damage per caster level (max 5d4), whether they succeed at the Reflex save or not.
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54:43 <Mekkis> !feat maximize spell
54:44 <diebot> Mekkis, MAXIMIZE SPELL [Metamagic] Your spells have the maximum possible effect.
54:44 <diebot> Benefit:  All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized. Saving throws and opposed rolls are not affected, nor are spells without random variables. A maximized spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell's actual level. An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the
54:44 <diebot> maximum result plus half the normally rolled result. Source: Core
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55:32 <Mekkis> maximised burst of radiance always lasts for 4 rounds?
01:24 <Steven> well... nevermind.
01:35 <Steven> I wont make that character since somebody else is making it.
11:07 <Mekkis> Avatar: for the record, I'm on a plane now, so no WotW today. I'll be off at 1450 or so.
05:03 <Mekkis> ??
05:06 <Mekkis> ?!
05:18 <Mekkis> !help
05:19 <diebot> Mekkis, Commands include !throw, !save, !dist, !chargen, !feat, !spell, !item, !search, !define. Type ??command for more information, eg ??!throw .
40:49 <Avatar> that game ran a little overtime
41:00 <Avatar> 11 hour game
53:45 <Theta> Just a little though right?
56:00 <Avatar> ya
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