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36:05 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) | Sun 1pm-ish (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
36:05 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sun Feb 19 06:32:57 2012
36:05 <***> Buffer Playback...
36:05 <***> Playback Complete.
36:54 <Mort-> yeah
36:56 <Mort-> Im cute and fluffy
41:11 <Puddle> nick Tashez
41:15 Puddle is now known as tashez
41:20 * tashez pets Mort- 
41:33 <tashez> i wish i was cute and fluffy :(
41:38 <tashez> can i have pics?
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06:52 <Mort-> oh ya
06:55 <Mort-> valdars.net/mort..
06:58 <Mort-> look for mort jpg
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30:15 <Tashes> Someone should run something on Monday afternoon@
30:35 <Mort-> get hydra raound
30:41 <Mort-> and trist
30:42 <Mort-> I cant be
31:10 <Tashes> aawwww
31:20 <Tashes> i dont think i've ever gotten to play with you
32:03 <Mort-> yeah
32:09 <Mort-> u werent around that time :P
32:13 <Mort-> I havent gotttne ot paly wtih jerus yet
32:19 <Mort-> or at least Ive had to dm for him :D
32:20 <Mort-> lol
32:20 <Tashes> i'm not around much
32:22 <Mort-> ccuuuutttee
32:24 <Mort-> hang aorund ore
32:26 <Mort-> oar
32:27 <Mort-> moar
32:29 <Mort-> damn im tired
32:31 <Tashes> I would if i could@
32:32 <Mort-> making spelling mistakes
32:36 <Mort-> haha'
32:38 <Mort-> what happend duduuudette
32:48 <Tashes> My friend just asked if you were Mort, death's apprentice?
33:07 <Mort-> mp
33:08 <Mort-> no
33:11 <Mort-> Im mort the mouse lemur
33:13 <Mort-> from magadascar
33:17 <Tashes> oh, okay
39:12 <Tashes> hey, that mort's not fuzzy!
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41:57 <Hydrazine_> so ronery.
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44:02 <Hydrazine> !roll 1d6+2; 2d8
44:07 <Hydrazine> bah.
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58:38 <Ballig> !throw 1d6+2; 2d8
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50:20 <Avatar> zzzz
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17:36 <Avatar> Hydrazine_: !roll 1d6+2 works
17:44 <Avatar> just don't add any text after it
17:49 <Avatar> you can't do 2 rolls at once
17:56 <Hydrazine_> even without diebot?
18:05 <Hydrazine_> !roll 1d6+1
18:05 <Avatar> [Hydrazine_] 1d6 -- 3 +1 (Total: 4)
18:07 <Hydrazine_> ah.
18:28 <Hydrazine_> is diebot in the shop for work?
35:51 <Avatar> it's mekkis' bot
48:18 <Hydrazine_> looks like i can catch tide of twilight with ya on saturday. but i'm not committing yet because shit might come up before then.
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49:05 <Mekkis> Hydrazine_, tide of twilight?
49:13 <Hydrazine_> rather just wait till i'm fairly sure than play the yes-no-yes-no game.
49:19 <Hydrazine_> um. thats what the schedule says
49:26 <Mekkis> then it's wrong
49:30 <Mekkis> it's before the dawn II
49:49 <Hydrazine_> Don't forget the schedule converts to talk to me in america-time.
50:29 <Hydrazine_> Cheers for whoever got that in. Makes it alot easier for me.
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51:46 <MekkisScreen_> http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12709283&postcount=314
51:48 <MekkisScreen_> 5e stuff
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59:59 <Hydrazine_> a 4th ed rogue can hit for 3d8 at level one.
04:14 <Hydrazine_> ohsnap.
04:18 <Hydrazine_> i'm not raiding friday.
04:35 <Hydrazine_> this opens up opportunity!
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29:22 <Avatar-> my reception is a bit dumb here, yell out if it gets annoying
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56:58 <Mort-> Im irritated
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40:07 <Hydrazine_> why?
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14:01 <Hydrazine> so i'm a bit excited.
14:09 <Hydrazine> might play two games this week.
14:27 <tristen> i'd be excited too!
14:53 <tristen> we've got two people disagreeing on something atm
15:00 <tristen> i won't name avatar or mekkis...
15:05 <tristen> oh dear
15:20 <Hydrazine> thats old news.
15:27 <Hydrazine> and none of our business.
15:30 <Hydrazine> I say we keep it that way.
15:39 <tristen> well i think it should be aired
15:41 <Hydrazine> Any new progress on your CA 2.0?
15:49 <tristen> it effects the community i say
16:02 <Hydrazine> No, it doesn't. And not your call man.
16:11 <tristen> pffft it stresses me out
16:11 <Hydrazine> ANd if you wanna talk to me about it, we can do that elsewhere.
16:28 <Hydrazine> But I'm not a fan of any shit being made in public channels, k?
16:36 <tristen> yeah, it's ok i'll lay off it
17:07 <tristen> on another note
17:08 <Hydrazine> People round here are grown up enough to sort their own shit out. Even the youngins.
17:30 <tristen> i'm working out that whole background image thing atm
17:37 <tristen> like if you don't have a map
17:39 <Hydrazine> ah. not the other information tracker thing?
17:44 <tristen> and just want to draw one
17:49 <tristen> well it's all on the list
18:01 <tristen> i think i put in the ability to record hp/ac
18:02 <Hydrazine> so you're throwing in something like basic paint program?
18:05 <tristen> just not to change it
18:20 <tristen> well not even a basic paint program yet!
18:39 <tristen> just the ability to have "background" squares and "foreground" squares
18:40 <Avatar-> what's the issue
18:56 <Avatar-> re effects the community
19:18 <tristen> well...
19:30 <tristen> hydra was saying i shouldn't pry
19:33 <tristen> or something
19:49 <Hydrazine> i'm saying deal with things privately.
19:56 <tristen> and i feel the differences between you and mekks is a community issue
20:11 <Hydrazine> a problem between A and B is not something the whole channel needs to witness.
20:15 <Avatar-> yeah I agree actually
20:47 <Avatar-> I talked to ballig about it last night
21:01 <tristen> yeah i'm not going to push it or anything
21:19 <Avatar-> hydrazine that's just how it happens though
21:30 <tristen> but no-one here is going to say: "HE'S RIGHT AND HE'S WRONG"
21:46 <Avatar-> but what's the solution
21:49 <Hydrazine> Eh. Just not how I feel things should be done. But what the hell do I know?
22:32 <tristen> half the problem is i don't know what the issue is - i therefore can't offer anything to help resolve it
22:42 <Avatar-> it's meant to be more discussion/debate and less argument
23:04 <Avatar-> none of us want to get nasty over it
23:08 <tristen> aye but resulting in "not playing" makes it quite serious
23:59 <tristen> and therefore a community issue (i think)
24:13 <Hydrazine> i disagree. its a game. something we do for fun. hes under no obligation to play or dm.
24:25 <Avatar-> mekkis made a lot of gm plays which weren't in the book that I think are quite serious
25:45 <Avatar-> yeah but what tristen is talking about is like
26:04 <Avatar-> we have one less player in a lot of games
26:20 <Avatar-> and it affects everyone in those games
26:32 <Hydrazine> or rather, not in them.
26:44 <Hydrazine> but sure, if thats how you feel about it.
27:39 <Hydrazine> perhaps a discussion between you two, open in channel might help? The rest of us here to keep it from turning ugly and ...mediating some?
27:41 <Avatar-> it's been happening for a long time and the solution in the past has been discuss privately, suck it up and move on
28:50 <Hydrazine> let me ask this. what is it that mekkis could do to make you happy? lets define happy as content to game and interact here.
28:53 <Avatar-> it's just disagreement
29:02 <Avatar-> it never gets ugly
29:30 <Hydrazine> is it going anywhere positive in the current scheme?
29:42 <Avatar-> improvise less, railroad character destiny less
29:55 <Avatar-> in a nutshell
30:23 <Hydrazine> now the trick is to ask him the same, i think. and see where you two will bend to meet somewhere in the middle over it.
31:31 <Avatar-> we've sort of already done it
31:48 <Avatar-> you can't be super specific
31:54 <Hydrazine> so is everything all fine and theres gonna be avatar/mekkis games now?
32:20 <Avatar-> it's an attitude that has to change and neither of us are really willing to bend any more than we have
32:39 <Avatar-> no it hasn't worked
32:45 <Hydrazine> hm.
34:23 <Hydrazine> So, whats next?
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35:21 <Avatar-> open to suggestions, but
35:32 <Avatar-> I don't think there's a good answer
35:39 <Avatar-> need more players
37:16 <Hydrazine> well.
37:20 <Hydrazine> maybe we'll get there?
37:40 <Avatar-> it wasn't a decision I made lightly
40:19 <Avatar-> it wasn't over 1 or 2 games
40:19 <Avatar-> I spoke to mekkis, I spoke to con people, I reported a game, I went to the forums
40:19 <Avatar-> sucking it up isn't working, I keep feeling like my characters are getting screwed over
41:03 <tristen> wow ok and what was the outcome?
42:45 <Avatar-> this is the outcome
43:04 <tristen> no i meant the feedback from con people and the forums?
43:09 <tristen> i presume on the issue?
43:38 <tristen> right? wrong? grey?
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45:15 <tristen> and the meaning of life is...
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45:44 <tristen> ah hullo again!
45:52 <tristen> i dunno if you saw it
46:19 <tristen> but i was asking you if the external feedback on the issue was positive, negative, grey?
48:07 <Avatar-> surprisingly indifferent
48:57 <Avatar-> the thing to do is to talk to the dm about it, if you can't sort it out, don't play with them
49:21 <Avatar-> that's what everyone says
49:27 <tristen> yes
50:47 <Avatar-> I was very tolerant about how much I was willing to push through just so it wouldn't cause issues with games running
51:58 <Avatar-> going back into dodgy reception area
52:19 <Avatar-> :o)
52:54 <tristen> yes, sorry too - i didn't mean to say that was my main concern earlier (running of games)
53:07 <tristen> that's just a side-effect if you know what i mean
53:58 <Avatar-> what's the concern
54:36 <tristen> just having two awesome players/dms at odds with each other
54:51 <tristen> it just plain old sucks :)
55:45 <Avatar-> we are otherwise cool
56:26 <tristen> yes i know - i've never gotten so much as a whiff of animosity
56:32 <tristen> which is cool
57:20 <Avatar-> I think some of his characters are cheesery and he thinks I don't roleplay enough
57:55 <Avatar-> it's a fairly healthy "at odds"thing
58:18 <tristen> heheh - well i'm a bit of a bonehead and all that - but i think you're both right on those observations!
58:18 <Avatar-> brings up issues that we get to talk about
58:19 <Avatar-> we kind of like that
58:47 <tristen> "THIS IS MAH BOOMSTICK" XD
59:38 <tristen> please don't confuse that with criticism! it's all a rich tapestry is waht ima saying...
02:13 <Avatar-> tristen you cant be a bully
02:18 <Avatar-> criticism can be healthy
02:41 <Avatar-> it's good that you mentioned a concern with it
04:56 <tristen> no worries yeah i was confident there wasn't a raging argument from what i'd heard here and there...
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31:59 <MekkisScreen_> well
32:04 <MekkisScreen_> I'm on luch now
32:07 <MekkisScreen_> lunch
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32:47 <MekkisScreen_> so say what you want to
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54:51 <Thelen> mmmm
54:51 <Thelen> sooo
54:51 <Thelen> who knows about minecraft :D
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19:01 <MekkisScreen_> we all do
19:02 <MekkisScreen_> why?
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31:25 <Thelen> trying to find out bandwidth usage
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37:56 <MekkisScreen_> having internet issues?
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43:42 <Thelen> everyone is
43:46 <Thelen> aus wid issues atm
47:18 <Thelen> Description:   
47:19 <Thelen> Due to an unplanned network outage with our upstream provider, access to international web sites may be currently unavailable. There is no ETR at present and network engineers are currently investigating the issue at the highest priority.
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51:30 <MekkisScreen_> yeah
51:49 <MekkisScreen_> IPv6 wasn't affected as much
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33:43 <grumpymort> God dammd
33:52 <grumpymort> Work ate me again
39:05 grumpymort is now known as mort-
39:29 <Hydrazine_> aw well.
40:24 <MekkisScreen_> it does that
42:18 <mort-> Yeah
42:43 <mort-> Had to type out someone hand written letter in an h
43:06 <mort-> As flawlessly as possible
43:23 <mort-> 4 pages worth
43:50 <mort-> Then call in maintainence
43:50 <mort-> For a faulty light
44:16 <mort-> Track down the guy who was complaining about the printer
44:34 <mort-> And the guy who wanted me to book his air ticket
44:36 <Avatar-> what's going on
45:06 <Hydrazine_> people will always complain about printers.
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45:20 <Hydrazine_> I swear they just aren't designed to actually operate reliably with anything.
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45:48 <Mort-> Not to mention i used up all my excel and word magic
46:05 <Mort-> Yesterday doing a mail merge 
46:40 <Mort-> And i had a tiff with my mom last night
47:36 <Mort-> She told me to find a permanent job twice
48:01 <Mort-> In like 5 min intervals and recommended Singapore customs
48:10 <Mort-> And she said she isn't giving me any pressure
48:11 <MekkisScreen_> yeah
48:21 <Mort-> Bullshit
48:21 <MekkisScreen_> Singapore customs sounds like a good job!
48:23 <MekkisScreen_> go for it!
48:29 <Mort-> Right
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48:50 <Mort-> I am probably going to be working on week ends
48:53 <Mort-> Bb dnd
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48:59 <Mort-> No way!
49:02 <Mort-> :d
49:16 <Mort-> Get the point mek?
49:23 <Hydrazine_> working, mort?
49:26 <Hydrazine_> starting this weekend?
49:28 <Mort-> Ill be posted to inspect stuff
49:36 <Mort-> Lunch break atm
49:52 <Mort-> So I'm whining for all I'm worth
49:54 <Hydrazine_> i think i play one, maybe two games this weekend.
50:03 <Mort-> As a person i don't like community lunches
50:19 <Mort-> How do i put it?
50:39 <Mort->  I need quite some time alone?
50:58 <Mort-> I can only spend so much time with people before i get irritated
51:07 <Hydrazine_> even us?
51:26 <Mort-> Uh you guys are different
51:42 <Mort-> If my collegues played utopia or dnd
52:23 <Mort-> Hey we could run scenarios all day
52:50 <Avatar-> mort thinks we are top notch
53:52 <Avatar-> mort: you're meant to agree
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55:43 <Mort-> Oh yes
55:57 <Mort-> For gaming purposes
56:07 <Mort-> I get really sociable suddenly :p
56:23 <Mort-> But if you talk to me about ties things in life
56:38 <Mort-> You probably bore me in an h :p
56:41 <Avatar-> no we don't care about that
56:58 <Avatar-> you bore us too
57:30 <Avatar-> not really mort
57:44 <Avatar-> you are a-okay
58:10 <Hydrazine_> for a lemur.
00:48 <MekkisScreen_> so yuo won't be here on Saturday, Mort-?
00:49 <MekkisScreen_> ?!
01:21 <Mort-> Well ill be
01:33 <Mort-> Who told you i won't
01:44 <Mort-> Anyway i really am avoiding week end jobs
01:46 <MekkisScreen_> you said you'd be working...?
01:49 <Mort-> Because of that
01:51 <Mort-> Id say
02:00 <Mort-> If i applied for a new job
02:08 <Mort-> I might end up work on sat
02:12 <Mort-> Which i don't want
02:17 <MekkisScreen_> you should apply
02:25 <Mort->  Why
02:31 <MekkisScreen_> if they say "you'll be working Saturday", you can reply "no I won't"
02:37 <Mort-> I have a relative doing that
02:40 <MekkisScreen_> so then at least you're applying for jobs
02:46 <Mort-> And shift work is part of the job
02:48 <MekkisScreen_> and your mother will be off your back
02:51 <Mort-> I'm already working atm
02:55 <MekkisScreen_> even Avatar applies for jobs!
03:02 <Mort-> I told her i wasn't interested
04:06 <Mort-> T least sometimes i get free time to talk shop with you all
04:21 <Mort-> I tell you my family drives me nuts sometimes
04:48 <Mort-> I've taken to carrying my laptop out of the house sometimes just to get a solid stretch of dnd
05:32 <Avatar-> yeah even I apply for jobs and I don't want one
05:53 <Avatar-> with any luck I will remain without work for some time
06:12 <Avatar-> for some sweet pfs
09:17 <Mort-> My family wouldt kill me
09:23 <Mort-> For each day i remain jobless
10:39 <Avatar-> mine too
12:10 <Mort-> How are you still alive haha
19:18 <Avatar> I left the state
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20:15 <Avatar> what's this about internet issues people are having 
20:46 <Mort-> Internet down
20:47 <Mort-> I guess
20:55 <Mort-> Oh i have cookies at work :d
20:55 <Avatar> ...more details
21:02 * Mort- purrr
21:07 <Mort-> Chocolate cookies!
21:17 <Hydrazine_> c is for cookie.
21:21 <Hydrazine_> thats good enough for me.
21:30 <Mort-> So yes
21:34 <Mort-> I'm happy here
21:35 <Mort-> Actually
21:44 <Mort-> The only problem is its contract
23:12 <Avatar> I can't see anyone here having dodgy internet
23:18 <Avatar> except me, but I've been in dumb reception areas
23:31 <Mort-> Even if you can't see
23:36 <Mort-> Doesn't mean it isn't there
23:42 <Mort-> K get back to work
23:48 <Mort-> Walking back to office
23:56 <Mort-> Then its more work
24:11 <Mort-> I need to sort out all that data from my mail
24:17 <Mort-> And work out a to do list
24:44 <Mort-> At least thinkip are begining to take shape
25:00 <Mort-> And tonight. Its have a good dinner
25:13 <Mort-> Maybe later ill go shopping for office stuff
25:23 <Mort-> They ran out of pantry cookies
25:37 <Mort-> You can't run out of cookies!
26:03 <Mort-> Awful things happen when you run out of cookies!
27:50 <Mort-> But i need to drink more water
27:58 <Mort-> Been so busy in the morning
28:08 <Mort-> I didn't hit the pantry
28:23 <Mort-> Ah well i bet everyone knows I'm an excitable one
29:08 <Hydrazine_> for a second i thought i saw panty and i was really confused.
29:21 <Mort-> Pantry!
29:28 * Mort- squeals
29:39 <Hydrazine_> its why i get for tabbing too fast and not actually reading.
29:40 <Mort-> You need a pantry
29:56 <Mort-> Yeah!
30:13 <Hydrazine_> We have a pantry.
30:16 <Hydrazine_> Theres even stuff in it.
30:31 * Mort- hopes avatar and mek get their differences sorted out
30:33 <Mort-> :d
30:48 <Mort-> At least they still can hang around in the same channel :d
31:01 <Hydrazine_> I should get to play this weekend.
31:03 <Mort-> Once i got so pissed with someone in irc
31:19 <Mort-> That i couldn't even stay in same channel as them
31:32 <Mort-> Id yell rude things of make a scene
31:39 <Mort-> If i had stayed there
31:48 <Mort-> But sat morning
31:52 <Mort-> We doing btd2
31:59 <Mort-> You need to have done part 1
32:03 <Mort-> Else can't do 2
32:13 <Mort-> And ya what else. Oh cookies!
32:29 <Mort-> The Sunday ballig game is good though :)
32:39 <Mort-> Yay!
33:16 * Mort- just zips around innanely
34:27 <Avatar> http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1015740
35:06 <Mort-> I'm not even aussie
35:14 <Mort-> i need to get nor sleep though
35:15 <Mort-> More
36:17 <Mort-> I'm running out of it
38:54 <MekkisScreen_> http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12709283&postcount=314
38:57 <MekkisScreen_> D&D 5e
41:54 <Mort-> Oo
42:30 <Mort-> Ok back to work
42:34 <Mort-> See you when i can
42:44 <Mort-> Which is. Probably not till i get off
46:45 <Avatar> that playtest sounds terrible
47:09 <Avatar> I mean it's rough detail so I can't understand it that well, but it seems - gasp - worse than 4e
48:14 <Mort-> Things get worse and worse
48:27 <Mort-> Old school ftw! :p
50:46 <Avatar> it's very rough, so it's not really fair to judge it for what it actually is
51:05 <Avatar> like no matter what's there it's guaranteed to be better than that
53:16 <Avatar> sounds like 5e is making magus the standard wizard
54:45 <MekkisScreen_> it's telling me that 5e probably isn't for me
56:59 <tristen> what's _actually_ the most popular version?
57:26 <Mort-> 3.5 :d
58:04 <Avatar> yeah 3.5
58:12 <Avatar> that's why pathfinder is so successful
58:22 <tristen> right
58:23 <Avatar> it improved 3.5, and d&d went to 4e instead
58:49 <tristen> so more people actually play 3.5 (including pathfinder say) than 4e?
01:44 <Avatar> I don't know what the numbers are like, but it's commonly known that many players didn't move from 3.5 to 4e
01:50 <Avatar> they either stayed with 3.5 or moved to pathfinder
01:53 <MekkisScreen_> more people BUY pathfinder than 4e
02:12 <MekkisScreen_> according to both online figures and "I asked my FLGS"
02:34 <tristen> heheh check out this shortened url from google: Wizards of the Coasts announces new edition of 'Dungeons and ...
02:38 <tristen> oh
02:39 <tristen> sorry
02:53 <tristen> in my browser it came up as "new version of Dung"
03:00 <Avatar> haha
03:24 <MekkisScreen_> I'd say that the most popular version of D&D amoung D&D players is 4e
04:00 <tristen> k because sales aren't an accurate representation of usage? or more sales are required with pathfinder than 4e?
05:42 * Mort- hasn't bought anything and blushes
06:12 <Avatar> mort if you can't afford it, it's not even worth thinking about
07:24 <Avatar> this is all too much to think about
07:31 <Avatar> going to have to get some tea
07:36 <tristen> :)
07:49 <Avatar> the good stuff
07:50 <tristen> BRAINFOOD
09:59 <MekkisScreen_> becaouse 3.5e players now play Pathfinder
10:02 <MekkisScreen_> which isn't D&D
10:12 <MekkisScreen_> so they don't count as D&D players
10:37 <tristen> oh you know what i mean though
11:15 <MekkisScreen_> tristen: I would venture to say the Pathfinder is more popular than 4e, but it's really hard to measure
11:21 <tristen> right
11:35 <MekkisScreen_> sales indicate that - both local and global
11:46 <MekkisScreen_> convention attendence indicates it too
12:08 <tristen> right! that strikes me as two pretty good indicators
12:15 <tristen> combo i mean
15:01 <Hydrazine_> i read most of the 4e phb today.
15:18 <Hydrazine_> most meaning i glazed over the spells and specific powers some, for later levels.
21:44 <MekkisScreen_> the pictures are pretty good
22:33 <tristen> speaking of which: have you seen that picture in the core edition of the bloke getting his arm ripped off by some mad wereseal or something?
25:41 <Hydrazine_> i'm a bit stunned that you can't diarm someone.
26:09 <Hydrazine_> and people can be prone, but other than knocking them out or failing a balance check, i'm not really sure why they would be,
26:31 <tristen> why can't you disarm someone?
27:18 <Hydrazine_> maybe you can and i'm dumb, but i looked, and i couldn't find a rule for it.
27:33 <tristen> one sec...
27:47 <Hydrazine_> theres no cmb/cmd.
27:59 <Hydrazine_> or combat manuevers at all as you know of it.
28:06 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Disarm
28:24 <Hydrazine_> but pretty much everyone gets to move around alot, and shove people around.
28:50 <tristen> actually that page in general is a pretty good one-stop-shop: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat
29:06 <Hydrazine_> thats not 4e.
29:10 <tristen> oh sorry
29:33 <tristen> thought you were talking about, you know: "that _other_ game"
29:54 <Hydrazine_> i thought i started with 'i read the 4e book today.'
30:20 <tristen> yeah you did, but i didn't read it because i was too busy lolling
30:41 <tristen> you mentioned "disarm" after i mentioned soemthing about a bloke getting his arm ripped off...
31:04 <tristen> geddit? disarm? (drumroll)
31:17 <tristen> sigh
32:03 <Mort-> Lame tristen
32:19 * Mort- hands tristen crutches
33:00 <tristen> i know i know
33:02 <Hydrazine_> lol
33:23 <Hydrazine_> and everyone can heal themselves
33:54 <Hydrazine_> and all the tough guy classes have 'hit me or take penalties' stuff.
34:08 <Mort-> Can't we all heal ourselves?
34:08 <tristen> yeah wtf is that about healing yourself?
34:19 <tristen> and getting full hp over-freaking-night?
34:23 * Mort- eats a cookie!
34:30 <Mort-> See. Full hp!
34:33 <tristen> heheh
34:52 <Hydrazine_> no, mort.
34:56 <Hydrazine_> i mean a rogue healing himself.
34:57 <Hydrazine_> in combat.
35:03 <Hydrazine_> no special items. no special tricks.
35:05 <Hydrazine_> any rogue.
35:32 <Mort-> Ah. But he has cookies!
35:42 <tristen> it's just not cricket i say
35:43 <Mort-> Of course he can heal himself.
36:12 <Mort-> Chocolate cookies are a cure serious wounds pot
36:15 <Mort-> :d
36:28 <Hydrazine_> and 3d8 a round from a level 1 rogue?
36:31 <Hydrazine_> srsly?
36:53 <tristen> what?
37:00 <tristen> GODMODE
37:05 <Hydrazine_> it also looks like combat is all pretty balanced out. like fighters don't actually fight better than.. well, anyone.
37:27 <tristen> sensitive new age rpg-ing
37:30 <Hydrazine_> holy shit i just saw pedro!
37:51 <tristen> did you smoke a joint together?
37:51 <Hydrazine_> ..theres a gecko that lives behind the table next to me, in the corner of this room.
38:05 <Hydrazine_> traditionally, a resident gecko of this room is named pedro.
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07:11 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking BESM or shadowrun
07:48 <Spaceshot> since they're both gamer programmers they'll like shadowrun's theme, and they both (I think both anyway) like/watch anime so they should like BESM
08:00 <Spaceshot> so far I've only got 2 peeps, should easily get more :P
08:16 <Hydrazine_>  whats BESM?
08:26 <Spaceshot> big eyes, small mouth
08:55 <Spaceshot> basically, a rules system to allows you to play anime RPG
09:08 <Spaceshot> in a sense
12:56 <Mort-> Exalted?
13:05 <Mort-> Heresy :p
13:16 <Brunius> Who wants an anime RPG
13:25 <Mort-> There are no other worlds except pf :p
13:39 <Brunius> Mort-, you are crazy.
13:51 <Mort-> Of course i am.
14:02 <Mort-> You just realised i have screws loose?
18:27 <Spaceshot> brunius is slow mort
19:10 <Brunius> Cheers
21:11 <Spaceshot> and yes, I prefer non-dnd/pf games, just for the lack of classes/levels
22:36 <Brunius> Is the levelling system to much like algebra?
23:47 <Spaceshot> maths isn't the issue
24:02 <Spaceshot> the lack of improvement at the players choice is the issue
24:37 <Hydrazine_> exalted's pretty anime styled, and levelless.
28:51 <Hydrazine_> Tash is trying to get me to play Dark Heresy.
34:10 <Mort-> Oh
34:17 <Mort-> Disarm?
34:20 <Mort-> Grapple?
34:50 <Hydrazine_> what about them?
36:59 <Brunius> Yay, Dark Heresy!
37:27 <Spaceshot> Dark Heresy is ok
37:44 <Spaceshot> good rules, average setting :P
38:34 <Hydrazine_> hmmm.
38:37 <Hydrazine_> pfs words of power.
38:40 <Hydrazine_> fus ro da?
38:50 <Spaceshot> ???
39:09 <Avatar> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/291364,dodo-cops-blame-for-national-outages.aspx?eid=5&edate=20120223&utm_source=20120223&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=newsflash
39:14 <Hydrazine_> theres a words of power section in UM.
39:20 <Spaceshot> not allowed in PFS
39:38 <Spaceshot> it's really good for a magus
40:34 <Brunius> Huh
40:36 <Brunius> So that's what it was
41:32 <Hydrazine_> not allowed?
42:00 <Hydrazine_> oh. right.
42:01 <Spaceshot> nope, not for PFS
42:12 <Hydrazine_> just curious to have a look. its new stuff for me.
42:19 <Spaceshot> heh go nuts
42:29 <Spaceshot> I'm still tempted to run shadowrun in here
42:35 <Brunius> jerk
42:48 <Spaceshot> wha/
42:54 <Spaceshot> ?*
43:03 <Brunius> Looks like I'm spending 6 hours gaming tomorrow
43:06 <Brunius> Or more !
44:28 <Spaceshot> why?
44:32 <Spaceshot> and how is that a bad thing?
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50:28 <Brunius> School swimming sports
50:39 <Brunius> As geeks, we ignore the sports and just play D&D all day.
50:43 <Brunius> I ran PFS last year :D
51:24 <tashes> rofl
51:26 <Brunius> Chances are D&D will crash and burn from people making last minute decisions to drop out, and I'll end up playing magic
51:33 <Brunius> Either way, day will be awesome
51:38 <tashes> i usuall got 'sick' on sports day
51:44 <Spaceshot> haha
51:44 <tashes> or i was cheer squad
51:48 <Brunius> Someone brought a wii emulator last year
51:52 <Spaceshot> nice
52:04 <tashes> we went bowlign one year
54:11 <tashes> anyway, someone should hold a game monday afternoon
54:23 <Brunius> y
54:37 <tashes> 'cos i'll be around
54:48 <tashes> i'm in bris, and my frien dis havign surgery then
54:59 <Spaceshot> I'll be here
55:03 <Spaceshot> doubt you want to play with me XD
55:06 <Brunius> Monday, hmm
55:21 <Brunius> Damn, that's the day I have every subject
55:24 <Brunius> No free periods
55:25 <tashes> lol
55:27 <Brunius> So I can't play then
55:30 <Brunius>  :(
56:02 <tashes> :(
56:20 <Spaceshot> free periods? you're in yr 11?
56:26 <Spaceshot> keep forgetting your age :P
56:32 <Brunius> I should be in 10
56:38 <Brunius> But I am in 11
56:46 <tashes> Brunius is smart!
56:58 <Brunius> Last year I was in S3!
57:00 <Spaceshot> people in the middle of know where have nothing better to do but study I guess
57:11 <Spaceshot> nowhere*
57:16 <Mort-> Lol
57:17 <tashes> Where is brun?
57:20 <Brunius> Emerald.
57:34 <Spaceshot> an hr or more train out from melb city
57:38 <tashes> oh right
57:48 <Brunius> Avatar offered to drive me home from Arcanacon, and I told him I couldn't let him, because he'd get home at 1am
57:51 <Brunius> He thought I was joking
57:53 <Brunius> I WASN'T
57:58 <Spaceshot> haha
58:07 <Spaceshot> aren't you meant to be living closer by now?
58:12 <Brunius> Yeah, so?
58:16 <Brunius> Meant to be
58:19 <Brunius> Doesn't mean I am
58:26 <Spaceshot> hurry up, need peeps to play IRL games with
58:32 <Nama_> Oh hey
58:33 <Spaceshot> avatar isn't enough and he's a shut in
58:41 <Spaceshot> didn't notice you ther Nama
58:42 <Nama_> www.Baldursgate.com
58:55 <Nama_> New music, new art, newly registered site
59:00 <Nama_> All my anticipation
59:15 <Brunius> I LIKE TRAINS
59:17 <Brunius> FWOOOOSH
59:29 <Nama_> Hey brun
59:45 <Spaceshot> you like to be on trains for hrs?
00:03 <Brunius> Dude
00:09 <Spaceshot> I take a 15-20min tram to AIE
00:11 <tashes> trains are great for reading. and studying.
00:17 <Brunius> The other day I spent more time travelling to/from school than actually at school
00:23 <Spaceshot> hahaha
01:11 <Spaceshot> we get orientation day tomorrow
01:14 <Spaceshot> at 1pm
01:16 <Spaceshot> in a park
01:20 <Spaceshot> in 35 degree heat
01:26 <Spaceshot> we're programmers
01:30 <Spaceshot> this is all bad bad stuff
04:19 <tashes> hey space, come smash a dominion game with us
04:40 <Spaceshot> you mean the lol tower capping game mode?
04:46 <tashes> yrs
04:48 <Spaceshot> ahh
04:51 <Brunius> I need to remember to pull the cash I need to give spaceshot out tomorrow
04:53 <Spaceshot> wait... I thought you hated me XD
04:58 <Hydrazine_> she does.
05:07 <Spaceshot> haha yea you should do that, also brunius, I need to make my barb
05:13 <Spaceshot> but sure
05:17 <Hydrazine_> who do you play anyway?
05:22 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec to see how long it'll take to update
05:24 <Brunius> I should paint that mini
05:26 <Hydrazine_> add me. I'm Hydrazine there too.
05:38 <Avatar> who's adding what where
05:39 <Avatar> I'll add you
05:40 <Spaceshot> lol
05:44 <Spaceshot> LoL*
05:51 <Spaceshot> Dom is fun
05:57 <Hydrazine_> Its funny. Hes not just laughing at you.
05:57 <tashes> Avatar shoudl come play LoL too. Chances are he'll feed. 
06:00 <Spaceshot> regular lol is too boring and people bitch to much
06:01 <Hydrazine_> Hes answering the question.
06:04 <Avatar> what is LoL
06:05 <Brunius> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/358792.page
06:09 <Avatar> laughing out loud
06:10 <Brunius> Scroll down till you see the valk
06:10 <Spaceshot> league of legends
06:15 <Brunius> There goes my cash...
06:18 <Avatar> what's that
06:21 <tashes> (i only want space to play with us so i can kill him and then accuse him of being a newb)
06:24 <Brunius> It's a lame DotA-ish game
06:30 <Avatar> forget fucking dota
06:31 <tashes> league of legends
06:34 <Avatar> don't even trick me into that
06:50 <Spaceshot> hahaha
07:02 <Spaceshot> avatar, Dom isn't really dota
07:15 <Avatar> someone is lying
07:18 <Spaceshot> if you guys are gonna play more games after this one
07:28 <Spaceshot> I should be ready after this game :P
07:31 <Hydrazine_> mkay.
07:31 <Brunius> He's saying the gamemode isn't really dota
07:36 <Brunius> Just like Parasite isn't really sc2
07:41 <Avatar> ohh
07:45 <Spaceshot> yea, lol has 2 game modes, classic and Dom
07:52 <Spaceshot> Dom is more hero bashing hero fun
07:59 <Spaceshot> classic is basically dota
08:03 <Brunius> skimmer
08:10 <Avatar> it wasn't clear in the text
08:16 <Hydrazine_> and in dom, you can't have jackasses drag a game out for an extra half an hour.
08:20 <Spaceshot> thinks he'll crash into any terrain he flys over
08:34 <Spaceshot> really? hasn't happened to me yet in Dom
08:41 <Spaceshot> I've had games that take 6mins
08:42 <Brunius> Spaceshot, use a blue mana to give him flying
08:45 <Spaceshot> very painful
08:45 <Hydrazine_> hasn't happened in regular, you mean?
08:52 <Spaceshot> regular yes
08:55 <Hydrazine_> i've had a reg game stretch for wayyyy too long.
09:01 <Spaceshot> oh can't, thought you said ca
09:02 <Spaceshot> can*
09:03 <Hydrazine_> it doesn't happen in dom. thats dmy point.
09:23 <Spaceshot> yea dom is fast
09:30 <Spaceshot> 20mins is the longest I've had
09:35 <Spaceshot> and it was down to <10 each side
10:17 <Spaceshot> so brunius, is darkwhite going to be the DM?
10:24 <Brunius> I don't know
10:31 <Brunius> He DMs there quite often
10:33 <Brunius> I'll email him
10:47 <Brunius> Want me to say you'll be there or can you fire off your own emails?
11:36 <Spaceshot> I can email, but if you were going to email him anyway, then just tag it along
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26:23 <Hydrazine_> hey space
26:26 <Hydrazine_> you didn't add me
26:39 <Spaceshot> still updating
26:51 <Spaceshot> haven't logged on to lol for a little while
30:46 <Hydrazine_> how long you got?
31:51 <Spaceshot> it's not telling me
32:05 <Spaceshot> bounces between 0:00 and negative time at the moment
34:32 <Spaceshot> just finished
35:17 <Spaceshot> sent
37:41 <Hydrazine_> They made Shen OP as balls.
37:57 <Spaceshot> haven't played in a while
38:21 <Hydrazine_> i know.
39:20 <Spaceshot> hate rammus in dom
39:23 <Spaceshot> too ninja
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49:44 <Brunius> Yo spaceshot, you haven't played any of the quest for perfection series have you?
51:22 <Spaceshot> I've played first steps 1 and first steps 3
03:49 <Spaceshot> wow kayle was shit and annoying
04:35 <Hydrazine_> yeah...
04:49 <Hydrazine_> i wasn't even having that bad of a game really.
04:57 <Hydrazine_> considering 3/5 built armor out the ass.
05:25 <Spaceshot> yea, kayle was playing straight AD
05:45 <Hydrazine_> woah, they gave ryze a Hellboy skin?
08:14 <Brunius> Yeah
08:18 <Brunius> It's pretty badass eh?
08:57 <Hydrazine_> alright. night guys.
08:58 <Hydrazine_> later.
32:02 <Mort-> Yeah i got eaten by work
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11:18 <AndChat|> Oh dear
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13:39 <yeagel> hi
13:53 <Brunius> Sup
14:02 <yeagel> i'm new to DnD
14:14 <yeagel> and i was wondering if i could sit in on a game
14:17 <yeagel> and watch, maybe
14:22 <Brunius> No problem, I think
14:29 <yeagel> cool
14:33 <Brunius> Avatar, Ballig?
14:38 <yeagel> what time is it there?
14:40 <Ballig> hm?
14:41 <Spaceshot> there probably won't be one till sat or sunday
14:46 <Brunius> It's 9:15pm atm
14:47 <yeagel> okay
14:47 <Spaceshot> it's 9:15 server time
14:52 <yeagel> okay
14:56 <Spaceshot> also, we play mainly pathfinder
15:03 <Spaceshot> which is basically dnd 3.5
15:04 <yeagel> it's 3 45 PM here 
15:09 <yeagel> neat
15:15 <yeagel> is it under the open gaming license?
15:17 <Brunius> Yeah
15:21 <yeagel> neat
15:22 <Brunius> It's under the OGL
15:35 <Spaceshot> give him the srd link
15:40 <Spaceshot> I don't have it handy atm
15:50 <Brunius> Our next game looks like it'll be 11am Sunday our time, which looks like 5am your time.
15:51 <yeagel> i have the one for DnD 3.5
16:09 <yeagel> i'll be there.
16:10 <Brunius> We probably won't get started until about 12/6, and the game will probably go for about four hours
16:28 <yeagel> neat
16:59 <yeagel> i haven't even introduced myself yet
17:02 <yeagel> um
17:08 <yeagel> i'm ravi from india
17:20 <Spaceshot> we use online synonyms
17:31 <Spaceshot> we'll use your IRC name
17:41 <yeagel> cool
17:47 <Spaceshot> but welcome anyway
17:51 <yeagel> thanks
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20:38 <yeagel> is it an ongoing quest?
20:54 <yeagel> that you're having?
20:57 <Spaceshot> not really, it's quite the opposite
21:05 <Spaceshot> it's pathfinder society
21:10 <Spaceshot> and organised form of pathfinder
21:41 <Spaceshot> someone here should be able to fill you in a lot more than I could
23:41 <yeagel> i guess not many are on, at the moment
23:55 <yeagel> what i was going for is 
24:05 <yeagel> if i could possibly participate in the game
24:15 <yeagel> i'll read up, as much as i can
24:36 <Spaceshot> people are usually still around at this time
24:48 <Spaceshot> it's quite odd for it to be quiet at this time when someone new joins
25:19 <Spaceshot> you'll have to talk to the other people her, specifically avatar, ballig and/or mekkis
26:15 <yeagel> okay
27:40 <Spaceshot> here*
36:32 <Mekkis> ummm
36:34 <Mekkis> hi?
36:51 <Mekkis> "server time"?
36:56 <Mekkis> this isn't an MMORPG
38:03 <Spaceshot> the time in which the times are based on
39:58 <Mekkis> it's called AEDT
40:01 <Mekkis> so call it AEDT
40:46 <Spaceshot> sorry mishta elitist
40:57 <Mekkis> you better be!
41:00 <Spaceshot> but Yeagel, you should talk to him about pathfinder society
42:38 <yeagel> back
42:44 <Mekkis> hey
42:54 <yeagel> hello mekkis
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43:30 <Mekkis> Good evening...
43:35 <yeagel> i have been reading srds for a while now, but i have zero experience in actual gameplay
43:39 <Mekkis> you're from India?
43:43 <yeagel> yes
43:54 <Mekkis> cool!
44:18 <Mort-> Oh great
44:22 <Mort-> I just died
44:29 <Mekkis> well, we try to have games in here once or twice a weekend
44:34 <Mort-> I ate cookies laced with poison :(
44:47 <Mekkis> occasionally someone tries to run something on a weekday, and sometimes that works
45:11 <Mort-> You want hydrazine for weekday games
45:22 <Mekkis> perhaps
45:27 <Mort-> Tristen is sometimes around as well
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45:34 <Mort-> I can't play on week days
45:40 <Mort-> I am at work lol
45:40 <Mekkis> but you're welcome to lurk here
45:40 <yeagel> me neither
45:44 <Mekkis> I suggest you do actually
45:46 <yeagel> i'm at work
45:53 <Mort-> Now?
45:59 <yeagel> yes, now
46:00 <Mort-> Now I'm free yes but no comp
46:04 <Mort-> Only cell :d
46:09 <Mort-> im off work atm
46:12 <yeagel> i'm on mibbit at the moment
46:15 <Mekkis> I know
46:32 <Mort-> Your not suggesting you playing at work lol? :d
46:39 <Mekkis> Ballig used to do that
46:49 <yeagel> i wouldn't mind, though i might hold up the game sometimes :p
47:50 <Mekkis> I will be running a game this Saturday
48:15 <Mort-> Its a wonder he didnt get sacked by his boss
48:27 <Mort-> Sorry but my job i may be around for an h
48:36 <Mort-> Then afk for the next h
48:42 <Mort-> Too unreliable to play
49:07 <yeagel> i've heard there would be a game at 5-6 am (my time)
49:12 <yeagel> on sunday morning
49:22 <yeagel> that should be, saturday night i think - your time
49:39 <yeagel> where are you guys located?
49:45 <Mort-> What?
49:49 <Mort-> I'm sg
49:56 <Mekkis> you're UTC+5.5
49:58 <Mort-> They are auzzies
50:04 <Mekkis> I'm UTC+10
50:28 <yeagel> what's sg?
50:29 <Mekkis> most of the others are UTC+11 because of daylight savings
50:35 <Mekkis> Mort's singaporian!
50:41 <Mekkis> UTC+8 I think
50:42 <yeagel> oh
50:43 <yeagel> cool
51:07 <yeagel> great, so i'm behind you in time
51:10 <Mekkis> Mort-'s IRC client doesn't reply to CTCP queries
51:20 <Mort-> Yeah
51:38 <Mort-> I'm on a phone
51:42 <Mort-> Optimus 1
51:51 <Mort-> Lg
51:57 <Mekkis> MekkisScreen_ is generally on a phone
52:05 <Mekkis> of course, you can't really tell the difference
52:13 <Mekkis> that IRC client replies to CTCP
52:41 <yeagel> i should probably get IRC on my phone too
53:10 <Mekkis> I'd suggest getting an SSH client instead
53:20 <Mekkis> and running IRC on a shell
53:48 * Mort- is boggldd
55:29 <yeagel> how do i get about that on an android?
56:16 <Mort-> You down load andchat
57:37 <yeagel> yeah
57:48 <yeagel> which app?
59:28 <Spaceshot> andchat
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07:38 <Mort-> Hi 
07:45 <yeagel> hi
07:48 <Mort-> Yeagek
07:57 <yeagel> Mort
07:59 <Mort-> Dl andchat
08:06 <Mort-> For cell irc
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08:13 <yeagel> okay
08:26 <diebot> Ich bin Die Bot!
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13:31 <Mort-> Hi hydrazine
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37:55 <Mekkis> yeagel, where do you work?
37:59 <Mekkis> if you don't mind me asking
43:16 <yeagel> i work as a business analyst here
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54:20 <Mekkis> cool
05:22 <Mekkis> is tristen around?
11:27 <Mekkis> I hate it when my boss rings me at 10pm
12:32 <yeagel> Happens to me, sometimes
13:16 <Mekkis> I was unlucky
13:33 <Mekkis> most of the time, my room is a faraday cage, so it doesn't receive mobile phone signals
17:10 <Mekkis> which sourcebooks have you read?
17:14 <Mekkis> or sources?
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35:46 <tashes> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426597_329291533773272_232251440143949_834551_753100492_n.jpg
50:42 <Avatar> yeagel: you don't need to talk to me or ballig until you're ready to create a character
50:47 <Avatar> and need to upload your sheet
51:32 <Avatar> anyone can tell you anything else you want to know
55:42 <yeagel> i've read a few of the wizards DnD sourcebooks
56:15 <yeagel> and i do know the basics of filling up a character sheet
56:27 <yeagel> can i see a blank format of yours?
57:40 <yeagel> or a filled up sample
57:53 <yeagel> i had a walkthrough of it once
59:18 <tashes> there's blanks on the website, no?
59:30 <yeagel> yeah
59:35 <yeagel> i had a walkthough of that one
59:45 <tashes> oh okay :)
01:04 <yeagel> listen
01:06 <yeagel> um
01:18 <yeagel> would it be possible to meet up on skype in a few hours
08:45 <Avatar> what for
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18:19 <yeagel> i'd like to run through it again, if possible
18:30 <yeagel> easier with voice
18:41 <Mort-> hi
18:42 <Mort-> what?
18:46 <yeagel> i know what stats do, and about checks
18:59 <yeagel> and the initial rolling and filling up 
19:09 <yeagel> but i'm a bit hazy on the details still
19:25 <Mort-> what od you need ot know
19:27 <Mort-> ask.
19:29 <Mort-> Il ltry to help
21:20 <yeagel> so , i know what most of the fields do
21:29 <yeagel> but how do you get the stats for height/weight
21:44 <yeagel> and fame?
22:13 <yeagel> why are there four rows in HP?
22:37 <Avatar> hang on, which one are you looking at
22:46 <Mort-> height and weight..?
22:58 <Mort-> go read d20 on the height and wat for most races
23:15 <yeagel> http://dnd.ballig.net/pfcharsheet_v1.1.pdf
23:29 <yeagel> okay
23:29 <Avatar> it's like that because you can multiclass
23:32 <Avatar> only worry about one line at a time
23:48 <Avatar> Mort-: you can't tell someone who's brand new to "go read d20"
23:49 <yeagel> okay
24:02 <Avatar> do you know what race you want
24:28 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/elf
24:29 <Mort-> say elf
24:43 <Mort-> Gender 	Base Height 	Height Modifier 	Base Weight 	Weight Modifier
24:43 <Mort-> Male 	5 ft. 4 in. 	+2d8 in.
24:43 <Mort-> (5 ft 6 in. - 6 ft. 8 in.) 	100 lbs. 	+(2d8×3 lbs.)
24:43 <Mort-> (106 - 148 lbs.)
24:43 <Mort-> Female 	5 ft. 4 in. 	+2d6 in.
24:43 <Mort-> (5 ft. 6 in. - 6 ft. 4 in.) 	90 lbs. 	+(2d6×3 lbs.)
24:43 <Mort-> (96 - 126 lbs.
24:46 <Mort-> thres this nice table there
25:52 <yeagel> yeah
26:02 <yeagel> i'm looking at half-elves and dwarves
26:53 <Nama__> Huh
26:59 <Mort-> so u see at elves
27:02 <Mort-> u can see a table there
27:04 <Mort-> if u look at dwarves
27:07 <Mort-> u can see a table there too
27:15 <Nama__> Just found an indie RPG that recently hit 100% funding on kickstarter
27:16 <Nama__> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/170831994/school-daze
27:22 <Nama__> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/170831994/school-daze
27:28 <Nama__> whoops
27:32 <yeagel> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/races.html
27:42 <Avatar> Nama__: not news
28:54 <yeagel> the d20 site is blocked by my office firewall
29:08 <Avatar> can you get around it
29:08 <yeagel> i don't know why
29:16 <Avatar> you can get a pdf instead
29:31 <yeagel> i will, when i get home in a couple of hours
29:57 <Avatar> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/738618/PFRPG_SRD.pdf
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59:51 <yeagel> gonna go afk
59:55 <yeagel> see you later
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