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47:04 <Derek_> Hello
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32:46 <Mekkis> Ballig, I used to believe your stance on roleplaying, until at arcanacon, where people were doing the same thing.
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26:53 <tristen> omg this is gold:
27:01 <tristen> "Gift of Sight"
27:09 <tristen> You can read the future by cutting open your abdomen and pulling out your entrails. This is a full-round action that deals 6d6 points of damage to you. This functions as the divination spell, using your Hit Dice as the caster level. You can perform this ability no more than once per day.
27:20 <tristen> i would have thought it would be once per lifetime...
46:18 <Hydrazine> i guess its assuming you survive the 6d6/
47:57 <tristen> i can just see a monster once a day saying "oh hold up lads. gimme a second - i'm just going to check my future..."
48:47 <Hydrazine> brandishing a big ass knife.
48:51 <Hydrazine> cutting his gut open.
49:13 <Hydrazine> there was a wicked cool second ed spell, it involved putting a demon baby in someone.
49:42 <Hydrazine> did like 6d6 damage being born, or double if the victim's a man.
50:18 <Hydrazine> and after its born, it immediate grows to full size of the parent, and looks almost identical. then it picks up the host's weapons, while they're still suffering and stunned from the birth, and murder face.
50:27 <Hydrazine> with all the attack rolls and feats and such.
50:29 <tristen> owch
35:24 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) / Sun 11am (Brunius, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
35:24 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Feb  9 18:12:53 2012
40:58 <Hydrazine> wand golems! entirely made of magic wands! Shoot fire and shit everywhere!
45:15 <MekkisScreen> cool
07:54 <MekkisScreen> 1there's a troll in Kaer Maga who does that
08:29 <MekkisScreen> covering a sign in its entrails
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32:55 <Hydrazine> Hey look, its that guy.
33:21 <Kempt> You uh, talking about me?
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33:48 <Hydrazine> ...I guess not.
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34:13 <Hydrazine> Whats up?
34:24 <Kempt> Nothing, just got some free time.
34:32 <Kempt> See if I can't finish my character sheet.
35:09 <Hydrazine> now you got me started.
35:10 <Kempt> How's whatever you've been up to?
35:10 <Hydrazine> http://youtu.be/0ggbRTRDFOI
35:14 <Hydrazine> Goin'.
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35:45 <Kempt> I am so sorry.
35:56 <Hydrazine> You're all sorts of disconnecty and shit.
36:01 <Hydrazine> Anyway, I'm around if you need a hand.
36:07 <Kempt> Thanks champ
36:18 <Hydrazine> I'l good at rulebooks. Lots of practice.
37:19 <Kempt> How long have you been playing?
37:35 <Hydrazine> Um. Tabletop in general? 8 years or so?
37:49 <Hydrazine> I also had some serious rulebooking to do in a professional aspect aswell.
38:00 <Kempt> Yeah, that sounds like experience.
38:16 <Kempt> Hey, this d/c thing is starting to get to me. I'm gonna find out what the deal is.
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06:27 <tristen> optusnet.com.au XD
12:37 <Hydrazine> optusnet is fail isp?
19:00 <tristen> oh it might be it might not be - i could be wrong but i don't think it's the isp of choice for techies
20:43 <tristen> hey did you make that video up there?
20:53 <tristen> or involved in?
21:15 <Hydrazine> ...No? Its just a cool video.
21:29 <Hydrazine> And I like the musician.
21:37 <Hydrazine> I'm one of his ~3 fans.
21:43 <tristen> yeah it's well done
22:21 <Hydrazine> Yeah, I thought it was cool. Telling a whole story from the knees down.
22:32 <Hydrazine> Fuckin' nobody knows about Kenna.
15:33 <Avatar> anyone know how much a wand weighs
15:57 <Avatar> no more than 1 ounce
19:06 <tristen> Physical Description: A wand is 6 to 12 inches long, 1/4 inch thick, and weighs no more than 1 ounce. Most wands are wood, but some are bone, metal, or even crystal. A typical wand has Armor Class 7, 5 hit points, hardness 5, and a break DC of 16.
20:19 <tristen> hullo avatar
20:19 <tristen> quiet day today
20:19 <tristen> i thought friday would have everyone slacking off
20:19 <tristen> hey no topic?
20:19 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) / Sun 11am (Brunius, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
20:20 <tristen> i haven't levelled tasiv up yet
20:37 <tristen> gawd mekkis WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE
20:47 <tristen> what we playing do ye know?
20:48 <Avatar> you don't know the half of it
20:54 <Avatar> before the dawn part 1
20:59 <tristen> level?
21:08 <Avatar> that's usually decided when players are confirmed
21:09 <Brunius> Oh lawdy
21:12 <tristen> 5+ or 5-
21:15 <tristen> okee
21:21 <Avatar> have you confirmed
21:40 <Hydrazine> dam you guys and your saturday mornings.
21:41 <tristen> on the site you mean?
21:56 <Avatar> yeah
22:14 <Avatar> jaggedsoul is in, so it'll probably low tier
22:45 <Avatar> Brunius: haven't you played it?
22:58 <Brunius> Yeah
23:05 <Avatar> you accepted the invite
23:05 <tristen> is echoes of the overwatched pfs?
23:14 <Brunius> Wasn't that the one we screwed up abysmally
23:17 <Avatar> yeah, they played it while we were doing quest for perfection 3
23:23 <Avatar> sure was
23:59 <tristen> don't mention quest for perfection 3 - i got brunius kilt
24:08 <Brunius> That was #1
24:42 <Hydrazine> He probably deserved it.
24:47 <tristen> no? wasn't it at the monest...moenest...temple at the end?
24:54 <Avatar> that was 1
24:55 <Brunius> Yeah, that was #1
25:06 <Brunius> because we needed that before we could do #2, timeline wise
25:08 <Avatar> 3 was the one with matt's cavalier 
25:11 <Brunius> Plot wise, rather
25:12 <tristen> ah yeah "takes possession of the thingie"
25:26 <Avatar> IT WILL BE GLORIOUS
25:29 <tristen> XD
25:40 <tristen> fuck that cracks me up
25:49 <Avatar> still
25:52 <Hydrazine> Nerds.
26:00 <Avatar> man you weren't there
26:16 <tristen> yes still for bloody ever
26:22 <tristen> man you had to be there
26:28 <tristen> this guy - i couldn't play
26:32 <tristen> i had sore ribs
26:36 <Hydrazine> lol.
26:39 <Hydrazine> man, those're the days.
26:46 <Hydrazine> i remember games like that.
33:54 <Brunius> Avatar: If I've already played, why was I invited?
38:16 <tristen> feature of the day: http://www.journeyo.com/public/combat/yvghudpelkagoysjiqjapvxpvyoyvi
38:27 <tristen> if you move your mouse around and click where you want
38:32 <tristen> it'll "save" the position
38:50 <tristen> so you can cut and paste the position and irc it
39:11 <tristen> avatar: remember when we were trying to express to mekkis the line of sight thing?
39:14 <tristen> ranged combat
39:29 <tristen> and he had to just click around a lot until we said "yeah there"?
40:08 <Hydrazine> i don't think i understand the benefits over the ability to just say.... F7.
40:27 <tristen> it was the corner of the square was the issue
40:51 <tristen> regardless, both can be cut and paste
41:06 <tristen> just a small thing i was working on...
41:21 <tristen> the biggest change i've made is to the map image
41:27 <tristen> i was cheating a little bit earlier
41:41 <tristen> and serving some of it from my server
41:52 <tristen> now none of that map image is served from my server at all
41:57 <Hydrazine> i think the marker movement bothered me a good bit, though. or is there an option to just click or drag shit around I wasn't aware of?
42:08 <tristen> well there is "warp"
42:15 <tristen> so if you click the "warp" function
42:22 <tristen> and then click anywhere on the map
42:31 <tristen> selected players/npcs will move to that spot
42:40 <tristen> keeping formation if there's more than one selected of course
42:59 <Hydrazine> ah. Neat.
43:07 <Hydrazine> Was that there last time I was playing with it?
43:18 <Hydrazine> As in, did I just not see it or is it new?
43:29 <tristen> uhm not entirely sure
43:37 <tristen> possibly...possibly not
43:42 <tristen> i've done a lot in the last few days...
44:19 <tristen> yeah the compass movement is a bit cumbersome - so i did the "warp" thing
44:27 <MekkisScreen> level 1-7
44:35 <tristen> which is also handy if there are several "maps" in the same image
44:45 <tristen> k mekkis cool
45:51 <MekkisScreen> but Avatar, Brunius and I think Ballig have already played it
46:03 <Hydrazine> How do you change the total size of the map?
46:12 <MekkisScreen> here is "warp"
46:12 <MekkisScreen> 07:38 < tristen> so if you click the "warp" function
46:12 <MekkisScreen> 07:38 < tristen> and thenhere is "warp"
46:13 <MekkisScreen> 07:38 < tristen> so if you click the "warp" function
46:20 <MekkisScreen> oops
46:22 <tristen> you change the size of the map image
46:30 <tristen> resize it in whatever
46:39 <Hydrazine> hm.
46:46 <tristen> remember: i only have read-only access to the map image
46:54 <Hydrazine> Remember my little map that I was testing with?
47:07 <tristen> yeah
47:22 <Hydrazine> i found my tab and took a poke when you mentioned the warp thing.
47:44 <tristen> sorry i can't resize it because that would mean i would have to serve the image from my server - copyright issues are too heavy
47:52 <Hydrazine> Ah.
48:02 <Hydrazine> ...but the game map size is bigger than the map i linked?
48:12 <Hydrazine> its tiling across.
48:16 <tristen> ah ok
48:26 <tristen> just expand the "map" tab
48:33 <tristen> and click "apply"
48:36 <MekkisScreen> the middle mouse button on this stylus is tempramental
48:38 <tristen> it should right itself
48:55 <MekkisScreen> 07:39 < tristen> uhm not entirely sure
49:32 <tristen> how's that looking now hydra?
49:50 <Hydrazine> unchanged.
50:01 <tristen> ok one sec probably a bug
50:27 <Hydrazine> my simple bar map i looted off the google
51:03 <tristen> refresh now?
51:26 <tristen> it's still a bug btw - i'll look closer at it now
51:39 <Hydrazine> ...Glad to help out I guess?
52:22 <tristen> heheh no it's all good
55:19 <Hydrazine> you should make the colors list a drop-down or something. or palette.
55:40 <Hydrazine> since its just a type box when i was messing with it, i tried shit like mauve and lavender, just to see what happens.
56:09 <Hydrazine> salmon and chartreuse were next.
57:00 <Hydrazine> oh. you did.
57:05 <Hydrazine> well.. bravo then.
57:30 <tristen> yeah i copped a bit of flak for not having those :)
57:39 <tristen> early days early days
57:48 <Hydrazine> hmmm..
58:18 <Hydrazine> You sure showed me on that one.
59:32 <Hydrazine> i see you got cones in too. i was curious how you would implement it. Not bad.
00:40 <MekkisScreen> how did you end up doing it
01:00 <Hydrazine> select a color, size and direction, and click the origin square.
01:04 <Hydrazine> and boom, cone.
01:22 <Hydrazine> Easy enough that i could get it right on the first try.
01:33 <tristen> cheers!
01:43 <tristen> yeah always click the square of the caster
01:51 <tristen> i haven't really made that clear
02:05 <tristen> but i also haven't done any faq or anything
02:22 <tristen> oh areas will center on the nearest grid-intersection
02:33 <tristen> so be wary of that
02:56 <Hydrazine> Possible to have things like ranges typable input aswell as clicked?
03:28 <tristen> you mean for stuff that isn't 15 or 30?
03:42 <Hydrazine> i mean for the range function.
03:54 <tristen> oh right
03:56 <Hydrazine> the to and from have to be clicked in, currently.
04:22 <tristen> yeah i could make that an input that gets populated if you click - leaving you free to enter something manually if you want?
04:27 <tristen> how's that sound?
05:09 <Hydrazine> pretty sweet.
05:09 <tristen> actually that would work for everything...i think...
05:14 <tristen> ok one sec...
07:01 <Hydrazine> hmm.
07:12 <Avatar> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/66710809/double-fine-adventure?ref=discover_rec
07:15 <Hydrazine> am i not seeing the ability to have a large player or NPC?
07:25 <Avatar> started yesterday, I think
07:57 <tristen> hydrazine not yet but i will very soon...
08:10 <tristen> i'll make size a drop-down
08:36 <Hydrazine> mkay. just saying. i know we got some guys ride mounts. and bigger enemies are big enemies.
08:46 <tristen> yeah understood for sure
08:51 <Hydrazine> i think swarms are 10ft cubes too?
08:57 <MekkisScreen> no
09:11 <MekkisScreen> they're 4x5' squares
13:16 <Brunius> It they're 4'x5' they're not square
13:23 <Hydrazine> ...srd says 10ft on each side. is that wrong?
13:51 <tristen> so a swarm could be a "large" npc?
14:01 <Brunius> That's correct, Hydrazine
14:32 <MekkisScreen> they can be a 20'x5' line
14:53 <MekkisScreen> four 5' squares
15:04 <MekkisScreen> 08:05 < MekkisScreen> they're 4x5' squares
15:18 <Hydrazine> well. i think it would be more effective to display them as highlighted squares rather than an actual circular marker.
15:31 <Hydrazine> particularly because swarms attack by occupying your space.
15:58 <tristen> yeah - i can make that optional for the npcs too (square/round)
16:12 <tristen> because atm you can only do a "swarm" by painting it
16:16 <tristen> no movement
16:31 <MekkisScreen> tristen:  height indicators....
16:34 <tristen> if it's an npc (square, large) then it's good
16:39 <Avatar> you can already do swarms on it
16:41 <Avatar> it's just a range
16:50 <tristen> you can't move a range
17:13 <Avatar> you can't move blasts in CA either
17:16 <Avatar> it's just remove and recreate
17:40 <MekkisScreen> 08:10 < MekkisScreen> they can be a 20'x5' line
17:58 <Hydrazine> I think I agree with avatar on this one. Easier to work a swarm as a range.
18:58 <tristen> no worries i'll put it in there and you can choose to handle it any way you want then...
19:13 <Hydrazine> but that doesn't negate that a way of representing larger targets is needed.
19:46 <tristen> right
20:16 <tristen> yeah i'll let the dm choose the size of an npc/player and it's outline shape (circle default, square optional)
20:32 <tristen> easy
20:52 <tristen> hey mekkis what's this about height indicators?
21:57 <Brunius> He needs them for his roc
22:19 <tristen> ah!
22:25 <tristen> of course the roc!
22:43 <tristen> (and other forms of death from above)
22:57 <Hydrazine> and other things.
23:00 <Hydrazine> show how deep a pit is?
23:08 <tristen> interesting
23:18 <tristen> very interesting
23:21 <Hydrazine> how high a wall. and such.
23:51 <tristen> so when the player moves the mouse over a square it tells the height? 
23:55 <Hydrazine> anytime height gets involved, theres questions like, will this hurt? can I jump or climb that?
23:56 <tristen> i can do that!
23:59 <Hydrazine> ....that would kick ass.
24:28 <Hydrazine> considered adding something for keeping track of initiative?
24:39 <tristen> aye i have XD
24:50 <tristen> like those little magnet boards
25:03 <Brunius> Those magnet boards are pretty good
25:10 <tristen> yeah
25:28 <Hydrazine> i used a wheel for it in some other games.
25:45 <tristen> THE SPINNING WHEEL OF DEATH
25:55 <Hydrazine> players get markers on the wheel, and theres one for current turn.
26:32 <Hydrazine> it was particularly useful because the game system didn't have set turns.
26:59 <Hydrazine> but we liked it enough to keep using it even in stuff with standardized turns like 3.5.
27:14 <tristen> actually that's pretty interesting
27:50 <Hydrazine> it was kind of necessary.
28:02 <tristen> i could do something where whoever's turn it is is - takes their turn and get's bumped to the bottom?
28:07 <tristen> the next one pops to the top
28:12 <Hydrazine> sounds awesome.
28:15 <tristen> hmmmm
28:21 <Hydrazine> add in the manual ability to slide people up and down.
28:25 <tristen> yes
28:46 <Hydrazine> a delay tag, to lock someone?
28:53 <tristen> yep
28:59 <MekkisScreen> when you go underwater
29:05 <Hydrazine> keeps them at the top until they use it.
29:09 <MekkisScreen> heh
29:30 <tristen> ok i'll take a stab at it and then i'll run it past you guys
29:33 <tristen> you tell me what sucks
29:39 <tristen> and i'll fix it
29:53 <Hydrazine> i thought we were doing pretty good at that so far.
29:56 <tristen> sweet jquery action
29:58 <Hydrazine> I will say its shaping up pretty nicely.
30:05 <tristen> aye cheers
30:41 <Hydrazine> and initiative isn't really secret, right? so all the better if everyone can just see it.
31:35 <tristen> yep - i can also make it optional if the dm doesn't want the players to see it
31:51 <tristen> so the dm can use it and decide whether to reveal it to the players
32:03 <tristen> either way i'll just get a basic version working first...
32:51 <Hydrazine> right, right. step one comes before step two and all thatr.
33:31 <Hydrazine> yeah. we needed it in exalted because weapons had different attack times.
33:56 <Hydrazine> a dagger user could get two attacks in by the time a warhammer got one.
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32:44 <Hydrazine> yo.
34:02 <NelsonFattardo> hello
35:51 <NelsonFattardo> later!
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47:00 <Hydrazine> welcome back. maybe.
47:06 <Kempt> I've sorted it out.
48:42 <Avatar> easy left. maybe
50:18 <Ballig> what's an easy left
50:50 <Kempt> hairpin left.
50:58 <Ballig> wouldn't that be hard
51:13 <Kempt> It was, I always crashed.
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52:24 <Kempt> You around hydra?
53:24 <Hydrazine> Yes.
54:16 <Kempt> I was wondering what tab means when you're talking about your weapons.
54:17 <Hydrazine> total attack bonus.
54:21 <Kempt> Thanks.
54:28 <Hydrazine> base attack bonus, + str or dex + whatever else adds to it.
54:45 <Hydrazine> strength for melee, unless you're using weapon finesse, dex for ranged.
55:16 <Hydrazine> you probably won't have any extra modifiers to it now, but you might later on.
55:28 <Kempt> Yeah, I don't think I do.
55:28 <Hydrazine> masterwork weaponry, for example.
00:23 <Mekkis> random traits
00:25 <Mekkis> size
00:30 <Mekkis> play a shorty!
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01:08 <Mekkis> play a shorty!
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16:49 <tristen> i did what ryan said was cheezie
16:55 <Mekkis> what?
17:07 <tristen> added humanoid (human) as my favoured enemy :D
17:16 <Mekkis> hmm
17:23 <tristen> can't ignore +2/+2 
17:24 <Mekkis> what's your incharacter justification?
17:42 <tristen> with my crappy skillz
17:54 <Mekkis> incharacter
18:04 <tristen> i suppose favoured terrain being urban?
18:14 <Mekkis> in-character
18:34 <tristen> so human quarry
18:35 <Mekkis> why would Tasiv wish to study methods of bringing death to humans?
18:52 <tristen> urban ranger and all that
18:52 <tristen> or do you mean i should have a real reason to hate humans or something? 
18:52 <Hydrazine> walker, texas ranger.
19:08 <tristen> oh you know, being andoran and all that ;)
19:10 <Avatar> because there's lots of human bad guys in PFS
19:12 <Mekkis> tristen, pretty much, yeah... there should be some reason
19:24 <tristen> well he's an urban ranger
19:33 <tristen> urban ranger = urban quarry
19:44 <Mekkis> Why is he an urban ranger
19:50 <tristen> he's just got better at it
20:04 <tristen> because i thought the whole stealthing around town thing was cool
20:35 <tristen> sort of espionage
20:40 <Mekkis> fair enough
20:45 <tristen> but there's not really much chance to exercise that
20:51 <Mekkis> and he found that lots of humans were giving him trouble?
21:04 <tristen> humans are always giving him trouble...
21:13 <tristen> from the scenarios
21:27 <tristen> like i said: he just got better at it
21:41 <Mekkis> maybe he'll roll higher than six soon!
21:50 <tristen> with any luck, yes!
22:02 <tristen> i still wouldn't like to go up against hitomi or buck
22:13 <tristen> i'd be deaderer than dead real quick
22:33 <tristen> also i've retro-picked some traits (because i never did in the first place)
22:40 <tristen> i took an andoran one 
23:01 <tristen> Captain's Blade which is pretty cool and gives me acrobatics as a class skill
23:10 <tristen> and also a social one:
23:28 <tristen> (cough) "prince" to give me diplomacy as a class skill too
23:41 <tristen> and i've taken up intimidate as a class skill now as well
23:58 <tristen> so i think i'm leaning in the right direction with the character
24:38 <tristen> i wish i got rapid shot instead of that stupid thing deadly aim...
24:43 <tristen> but that's another story
24:49 <tristen> one more level and i can address that
25:49 <tristen> actually the stealthing around town thing was good in that cold city up north
26:03 <tristen> until i think canine blew it for the lot of us?
26:39 <tristen> shades of ice 2 - a world of hurt
27:01 <tristen> "goggbane"
28:28 <tristen> question is now: what to do with my loot from that last scenario?
28:45 <tristen> i have ac20
28:53 <tristen> and a +1 enchanted bow
29:11 <tristen> where can i find the cost of enchantments table?
29:37 <tristen> like i think increasing the bow from +1 to +2 is a whole lot more expensive than increasing my armour to +1
30:08 <Hydrazine> +1 armor is 1k.
30:14 <Hydrazine> +1 weapon is 2k.
30:31 <Hydrazine> so +2 weapon is 4k. 3k upgrade.
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31:56 <tristen> ok
33:02 <tristen> so how about +2 armour is that just a straight up 3k to get it to +3?
33:08 <tristen> soz +3 armour
33:30 <tristen> fuck an ac23 would be NICE
34:19 <tristen> wait
34:26 <tristen> what's this you say
34:35 <Hydrazine> er. no.
34:37 <tristen> 3k to upgrade a weapon from +1 to +2?
35:04 <Hydrazine> sorry. i got my calcs wrong.
35:10 <tristen> np
35:16 <Hydrazine> 6k to take a weap from 1 to 2.
35:26 * tristen whistles
35:39 <tristen> 6k?
35:44 <Hydrazine> 6k.
35:45 <tristen> that's bloody expensive...
36:12 <Hydrazine> 4k base for +2 armor.
36:45 <tristen> have you got a d20pfsrd link on all that so i can read?
36:50 <Hydrazine> its bonus^2 x 1000
36:54 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons
36:54 <Hydrazine> for armor.
36:57 <tristen> ah
37:00 <Avatar> it's not that expensive if you play a few high tiers
37:04 <Hydrazine> double for weapons.
37:05 <tristen> ok
37:10 <Avatar> it's expensive if you keep playing low tiers
37:29 <tristen> so bonus^2 * 2000 for weapons?
38:12 <Hydrazine> yes.
38:21 <Hydrazine> so +1 is 2k. +2 is 8k.
38:44 <tristen> and to upgrade from +1 to +2 is 8k - 2k?
38:53 <Avatar> yep
38:54 <Brunius> 6k
38:56 <tristen> right
38:58 <tristen> cool
40:04 <tristen> hey on the ballig site i didn't say i would play a level 1 character tomorrow
40:19 <tristen> but i can if need be
40:27 <tristen> all good
42:57 <Avatar> can't change it
43:02 <Avatar> good 1 ballig
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45:31 <Ballig> change what
45:43 <tristen> if you make a mistake with the schedule
45:46 <tristen> you can't edit it...
45:54 <Ballig> who can't edit it
45:59 <tristen> me
46:04 <Ballig> what do you need to edit
46:21 <tristen> i neglected to say i could play a level 1 char tomorrow
46:30 <tristen> and i couldn't just reselect it
47:01 <Ballig> looks to me like it says you can play a level 1 character
47:20 <tristen> on sunday or saturday?
47:23 <Ballig> both
47:32 <Avatar> you changed something
47:38 <tristen> :)
47:41 <tristen> cheeky monkey
47:44 <Ballig> you can't prove anything
47:45 <Avatar> ballig the trickster !!
47:55 <Avatar> taking a page out of mavor's book
49:08 <Brunius> We should get Mavor into PFS
50:02 <Avatar> yeah mavor would love it
51:01 <Avatar> I'm going to create an aasimar bat shaman
51:04 <Avatar> named Batman
51:15 <Brunius> ...
51:40 <Avatar> what
51:57 <Avatar> it's a druid archetype
53:15 <tristen> batman? how about "manbat"?
53:33 <Avatar> that doesn't seem as good
53:43 <tristen> im clowning
54:45 <Avatar> I'm not really making a bat shaman either
54:50 <Avatar> it seems like a shitty archetype
56:40 <tristen> but druid would be interesting?
56:54 <tristen> or is a druid a bit too smelly to be an aasimar?
56:58 <Avatar> yeah I am making an urban druid
59:48 <Avatar> um
59:55 <tristen> charisma doesn't come into it too much with a druid
59:58 <Avatar> there's a druid archetype which gives you an automatic reincarnate at 5th level
00:02 <Brunius> gg
00:04 <tristen> the aasimar has surely to be a cleric
00:19 <Brunius> yeah man you should make another cleric
00:24 <Brunius> dumping cha this time
00:24 <Avatar> cleric is the only 'best choice' for an aasimar
00:30 <Avatar> pass
01:41 <tristen> why dump the cha brunius?
01:49 <Brunius> nobody needs cha
01:55 <Avatar> he's being a smartass
01:55 <Brunius> you only need it for channels
02:56 <Avatar> like mekkis got thomas to dump charisma on his cleric
02:56 <Avatar> so he would never be able to properly channel
02:56 <tristen> yeah but think of the skilles - the aasimar is a freaking holy messenger
02:56 <Brunius> who needs channels though?
02:56 <tristen> a cleric?
03:15 <Avatar> an aasimar cleric
03:15 <Brunius> why?
03:21 <Avatar> to channel
06:34 <tristen> and diplomacy +50million
06:34 <tristen> pure gold that
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06:34 <tristen> kempt how goes it?
06:34 <Avatar> mr disconnection man
06:42 <Brunius> you disconnector
07:00 <Avatar> you yousayer
07:24 <tristen> hey speaking of the spoils from the con
07:30 <tristen> those bonus traits
07:39 <tristen> can i only apply them to new characters?
07:50 <Avatar> I think you can apply those to existing ones
07:51 <tristen> or can i tack 'em on to existing?
08:01 <tristen> perfecto
08:02 <Avatar> just means you don't get to take full advantage of it
08:13 <tristen> ?
08:16 <Avatar> like you don't get 12 levels of 3 traits
08:25 <Avatar> you only get the 7 or so you have left
09:48 <Kempt> Yeah, doing well trist.
10:06 <Kempt> I've made some changes and I'm about to upload it.
10:16 <tristen> excellent!
10:17 <Kempt> I don't suppose you could take a quick look when I do?
10:25 <tristen> of course
10:31 <Kempt> Make sure I haven't touched anything I shouldn't.
10:33 <Kempt> Thanks
13:05 <Kempt> What's the command for looking at someone else's character sheet?
13:46 <Avatar> findchar
13:55 <Kempt> Thanks
16:48 <Brunius> !findchar Cairo
16:50 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Cairo, number: 270( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=270 )
17:02 <Brunius> A whole 3 seconds, diebot
17:02 <Brunius> You lagger
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19:12 <tristen> i don't think i've seen cairo for a while...
19:30 <tristen> citadel of flame maybe?
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27:22 <Avatar> do aasimars have to be women?
30:15 <Ballig> no
33:37 <Avatar> what's the quick point buy trick
33:40 <Avatar> 4 stats at 14?
34:07 <Mekkis> 9 10 10 12 12 18
34:27 <Avatar> 9 :(
35:14 <tristen> can't be 4 stats at 14
35:21 <tristen> 6 stats 20 points
35:30 <Avatar> what
35:35 <Avatar> 4 stats cost 20 points
35:38 <Hydrazine> .....if the other two are 10.
35:40 <Hydrazine> it works.
35:43 <Avatar> 14 is 5 points each
35:51 <tristen> sorry 6 abilities 20 points
36:06 <Avatar> 6 stats at 14 makes 30
36:18 <Avatar> 14 is 5 points yo
37:01 <tristen> oh sorry you meant right i'll shut up now...
37:08 <Hydrazine> rofl
37:17 <Hydrazine> we're all like, how are you being this dense, tris?
37:31 <Avatar> leave him alone he meant well
37:43 <tristen> no harm done!
37:45 <Hydrazine> its still funny. but i'm done.
38:25 <tristen> i'm ok at tying my velcro shoes and stuff
39:28 <Hydrazine> i know a girl who lives up the hill; she won't do it but her sister will!
39:35 <Hydrazine> yeah the boogie. the tube snake boogie..
39:48 <Ballig> so why bother telling me about the prude one
39:49 <tristen> THE BEARDED ONES
39:54 <Ballig> start with the one who WILL do it
40:16 <Hydrazine> you familiar with the band the Beards, Tris?
40:29 <Hydrazine> And all the beard related songs.
40:38 <tristen> lol no
40:41 <Hydrazine> Like, 'if you're dad doesn't have a beard, you've got two mums'
40:48 <tristen> bahahah
40:51 <Hydrazine> and the album 'you should consider having sex with a bearded man'.
40:58 <tristen> nooooo!
41:17 <Hydrazine> i think theres even an all i want for christmas is a beard.
41:26 <tristen> i cannot unread what i have read...
41:49 <Hydrazine> because of this.
42:01 <Hydrazine> if i ever play a game with you, my character will have a beard.
42:08 * tristen shrieks
42:34 <Hydrazine> but srs props on recognizing the ZZ top.
44:28 <tristen> those guys are legendary 
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44:58 <Mort-> Hi
45:21 <Mekkis> hi
45:26 <Mort-> I'm a tailess mur!
45:33 <Mort-> Thanks
45:34 <Mekkis> what happen ??
45:40 <Mort-> I finished my shopping
45:45 <Mort-> You ask ballig
45:51 <Mort-> He chopped off my tail
45:59 <Mekkis> what a tosser
46:00 <Mort-> And salted the wound
46:06 <Mekkis> what a savage tosser
46:09 <Avatar> I'm such a druid noob
46:12 <Mort-> 2 weeks ago
46:12 <Avatar> can druids wear studded leather
46:21 <Mekkis> probably not
46:22 <Mekkis> :S
46:31 <Hydrazine> if its studded with non-metal.
46:31 <Ballig> might be up to GM interpretation
46:37 <Hydrazine> which is mentioned somewhere.
46:59 <Avatar> reinforced with small metal studs
47:02 <Brunius> Stud it with darkwood
47:02 <Avatar> so I guess not
47:11 <Hydrazine> you could do bone.
47:12 <Mekkis> screw it: go Dragonhide!
47:13 <Avatar> might have to deal with leather at level 1
47:23 <Avatar> or hide
47:28 <Mekkis> or wood
47:39 <Avatar> there's wooden armor?
47:43 <Mekkis> yeah
47:45 <Ballig> yeah
47:47 <Mekkis> APG I think
47:47 <Ballig> check APG
47:50 <Mort-> Else i would go regenerate a new one
47:51 <Mort-> No metal
47:51 <Mort-> My wizard has 
47:51 <Mort-> 2 k gc left over
47:51 <Mort-> Don't know what to get
47:51 <Mort-> Ill save it i think
47:51 <Mort-> Then get  a headband of vast intelligence next
48:01 <Mekkis> it's pretty shitty, but it gives you a +4 to AC
48:12 <Mort-> How about a stone coat
48:24 <Mort-> With heavy armor proficiency?
48:29 <Mekkis> Grolschmir will stick with his dragonhide full plate
49:03 <tristen> thar she grows hydrazine: http://www.journeyo.com/public/combat/yvghudpelkagoysjiqjapvxpvyoyvi
49:50 <Mekkis> tristen, your link wrapped around at the last two characters, and made me think of a text editor
49:56 <Mort-> Hydra you got this week end free?
49:56 <Mort-> :p
49:57 <Mort-> I won't play on Sunday
49:57 <Mort-> Nieces bdae
49:57 <Mort-> Sat good to go though!
50:14 <Avatar> wooden is actually a solid choice
50:18 <Mekkis> it is
50:25 <Mekkis> Grolschmir used to wear it
50:42 <Avatar> quilted cloth looks pretty sexy too
51:16 <Mort-> Dragon hide should get you dragons of that colour chasing you :p
51:32 <Hydrazine> thats a big old buck!
51:37 <Mort-> After all you killed their kin for that hide?
51:38 <Mekkis> Grolschmir's only dealt with two dragons
51:52 <Avatar> they probably got one shotted
51:53 <Mekkis> one was a white one that he and Bob killed in six seconds
52:00 <Mekkis> the other one...
52:08 <Mekkis> was in The Asmodeus Mirage
52:17 <Mort-> Urm.
52:18 <Mort-> One is more then enough
52:18 <Mort-> Id say
52:25 <Mort-> One is one too many!
52:37 <Mort-> Level 5 fight dragon?
52:40 * Mort- shudders
52:43 <Mekkis> the one in The Asmodeus Mirage was better
52:45 <Mekkis> level 1
53:12 <Brunius> Ok guys
53:19 <Brunius> here's my idea for a PFS scenario
53:31 <Mekkis> it's probably a really good example of why to follow tactics
53:37 <Brunius> A team of pathfinders finds a portal that leads to outer space, where there are space nazis
53:59 <Mort-> ?
54:00 * Mort- is a shymur!
54:04 <Hydrazine> so whats next, tris?
54:07 <Brunius> Totally original, right?
54:19 <Mort-> Ya
54:20 <Mekkis> Brunius, as far as I've been told, that's Eyes of the Ten III: Red Revolution
54:22 <tristen> ima thinking about height
54:27 <Brunius> haha
54:28 <Mort-> What?
54:40 <Hydrazine> initiative rolodex!
54:47 <Mekkis> you might play it one day, when you've reached level 13
54:49 <Brunius> beat to it!
54:49 <tristen> oh yeah that too
55:17 <Mekkis> Mort-, at tier 1-2:
55:24 <Mekkis> enkendu the Mad            CR 19
55:24 <Mekkis> Male very old brass dragon
55:24 <Mekkis> CN Huge dragon (fire)
55:24 <Mekkis> hp 350 (MM 79)
55:43 <Mort-> I never heard of that one!
55:43 <Mort-> I say generation gap
55:43 <Mort-> What's tactics?
55:43 <Mort-> Hit everything that looks hostile ?
55:43 <Avatar> there are shields here you can get that only take a swift action to take out or put away
55:48 * Mort- wuhs
55:58 <Brunius> funsies
56:09 <Avatar> superior to bucklers, not expensive
56:16 <Hydrazine> bring grolshmir, he'll kick his ass.
56:33 <Mekkis> hell no
56:33 <Mort-> Oh dear
56:33 <Mort-> I recommend diplomacy
56:34 <Mort-> Sure will get pwned
56:41 <Mekkis> Enkendu isn’t meant to be a combat encounter himself. In fact,
56:41 <Mekkis>   if the PCs attack him at all he laughs at them and giggles
56:41 <Mekkis>   like they’re tickling him. If they do more than 50 hit points of
56:41 <Mekkis>   damage to the brass dragon, he gets frustrated and takes a
56:41 <Mekkis>   –4 to attack the PCs with his claws, dealing nonlethal damage
56:41 <Mekkis>   (and using his cone of sleep breath weapon) until they’re all
56:41 <Mekkis>   unconscious. Once they awake from the nonlethal damage, he
56:41 <Mekkis>   attempts to get them to do his bidding again—namely, to play
56:41 <Mekkis>   his game. Enkendu is mad, but not evil. He will not kill the PCs.
57:01 <Mort-> There is nothing that can kill 350 hp
57:17 <tristen> hitomi critting on his aoos?
57:22 <Mekkis> if Buck rolls REALLY WELL, and someone casts haste...
57:38 <Mekkis> four crits...
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58:09 <Mekkis> oh no, it's another mort
58:27 <AndChat|> Lol
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58:45 <AndChat|> My dopelanger and i
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59:08 * AndChat| commands mort to flank mek
59:16 <Ballig> I hated Enkendu
59:16 <AndChat|> Damn too slow
59:22 <AndChat|> Ok
59:24 <Mekkis> heh
59:31 AndChat| is now known as mort-
59:40 <mort-> K I'm back
59:47 <Mekkis> It should be tremendously obvious from his size that Enkendu will outmatch any group that might try to best him. Remind your players of this repeatedly—attacking Enkendu will lead to a TPK.
00:14 <mort-> Why would anyone hit him
00:30 <Mekkis> because you're on a time limit
00:33 <mort-> Im polite to things bigger then i am!
00:41 <Mekkis> and he drones on for about half an hour
00:47 <mort-> Oh and you need to talk to him?
00:48 <mort-> Lol
00:59 <Mekkis> he takes you into his lair
01:12 <mort-> I can imagine
01:18 <Mekkis> and sits in the doorway
01:35 <mort-> And talks shop to you?
01:44 <Mekkis> and then some
01:55 <Mekkis> pity they retired that scenario
01:58 <tristen> hydrazine: and also small on that page
02:10 <tristen> small is just a bit tinier than medium
02:19 <Hydrazine> ah. nice.
02:25 <tristen> because i'm not sure the distinction is that necessary...
02:32 <Hydrazine> it isn't.
02:34 <Mekkis> it generally isn't
02:37 <tristen> yep
02:47 <Mekkis> unless you start getting even smaller
02:49 <Hydrazine> taking up a 5ft square and taking up a bit less than that, but still having the same reach..
02:51 <Hydrazine> close enough.
03:05 <Avatar> druids aren't very proficient with weapons
03:08 <Hydrazine> well, it'd be hard to fit useful data on something tiny and beyond, hm?
03:13 <Mekkis> they don't need to be, Avatar 
03:27 <tristen> ja
03:29 <Avatar> can't even use a fucking bow
03:38 <Mekkis> so?
03:42 <Avatar> bows aren't metal
03:50 <Mekkis> elven druids can
03:59 <Avatar> I am aasimar
04:22 <Mekkis> companion or domain?
04:33 <Mekkis> or some archtype I haven't studied
04:33 <Avatar> domain
04:38 <Mekkis> which one?
04:46 <Avatar> I haven't gotten that far
05:02 <mort-> Sling
05:11 <mort-> Xbow?
05:32 <Avatar> sling, not xbow
05:35 <mort-> Why do scenarios get revised
05:42 <Avatar> weapons don't even seem restricted by metal
05:43 <mort-> Retired
05:43 <Avatar> I can use a scythe
05:50 <mort-> That's sick
05:54 <Mekkis> because people don't like them
06:16 <mort-> Go black leather and ill call you grim reaper
06:21 <Avatar> the mirage one wasn't good mort
06:28 <Mekkis> that's not very druidic
06:40 <Avatar> or aasimaric
06:41 <mort-> Why do scenarios get retired
06:51 <Mekkis> did you feel genuine fear about being trapped in there, Avatar?
06:53 <mort-> Not enough of them around?
06:57 <Brunius> because they tpk
06:58 <Avatar> mekkis just answered that
07:00 <Brunius> usually
07:02 <mort-> I would
07:14 <mort-> I hate enclosed spaces
08:14 <mort-> Morts growing up though
08:16 <Mekkis> because the Powers That Be decided that they weren't what people wanted
08:20 <Mekkis> partly that
08:29 <Mekkis> partly because they had assassin vines in them
08:41 <mort-> She will have to dungeon crawl soon
08:49 <mort-> And get nervous
08:52 <mort-> In caves
09:09 <Mekkis> and other 3.5isms
09:16 <Mekkis> I think that Slave Pits should be retired
09:32 <Avatar> don't you like it
09:49 <Mekkis> I like it
09:55 <Mekkis> but the NPCs don't work
10:02 <mort-> Didnt we run that?
10:05 <Mekkis> no
10:20 <Mekkis> I was planning to
10:22 <mort-> Ohs
10:38 <Mekkis> I still might run it
10:44 <Mekkis> but it's a high-prep scenario
10:58 <mort-> Ah
11:18 <Mekkis> because the tactics of some NPCs require things that worked in 3.5, but don't in Pathfinder
12:01 <mort-> Should i eat now or not
12:10 <mort-> Don't feel hungry
12:19 <Mekkis> then don't eat :S
12:28 <mort-> But meeting might be for a while
13:28 <mort-> I'm going for a meeting
13:28 <mort-> I'm more tired then actually hungry
14:04 <Brunius> nap
14:09 <Brunius> like avatar
14:14 <mort-> And my shoulder aches
14:21 <mort-> I might
14:23 <Avatar> one day you'll understand brunius
14:41 <Mekkis> Asmodeus Mirage is one of the few scenarios where they ASK the GM to fudge rolls
14:55 <mort-> I do th't when warring in uto
15:10 <mort-> Nap when army is out
15:31 <mort-> Set  alarm at 3 am for wave
17:44 <Avatar> jesus I can't wear wooden armour, it's too damn heavy
18:22 <mort-> Lol
18:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, I thought Cairo would have taught you not to dump strength!
18:42 <mort-> Jesus doesn't dnd? :p
19:13 <Avatar> Cairo's problem is both his str and dex are 10
19:19 <Avatar> dumping str would have fixed him
21:48 <mort-> What is cairo
21:51 <mort-> A cleric?
23:21 <Avatar> yeah
24:56 <Avatar> I could drop my dex to pieces :(
25:06 <Avatar> I don't think I've ever dumped dex before
26:00 <Avatar> !findchar landruff
26:02 <diebot> Avatar, Character: landruff, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
26:07 <Avatar> dumb diebot
29:38 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=359
32:18 <Brunius> !findchar Landruff
32:18 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Landruff, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
32:56 <Brunius> db hasn't been updated since lr was uploaded you nub
33:06 <Avatar> diebot is the nub
34:24 <mort-> Meeting
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39:08 <Avatar> what are compulsion effects
39:11 <Avatar> is that like domination
43:24 <Ballig> think it's like Command
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55:33 <Avatar> maybe I can just carry around tanglefoot bags
57:24 <Avatar> playing a druid is harder than playing a summoner
04:51 <Avatar> starting to wonder if druid is a bad choice
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21:54 <Avatar> UM has a sorcerer archetype that lets you substitute charisma for wisdom
21:58 <Avatar> for all the spellcasting stuff
22:16 <Avatar> the catch is you need to like celestial, which is a pretty shitty bloodline
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