// #d&d — 2012-02-12
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00:00:14 <Mort> wgat was the competition again
00:00:16 <Mort> thwer was it
00:00:19 <Mort> and yes dl the noobie guide
00:00:22 <Mort> ion character creation
00:00:34 <Mekkis> that's not a dwarf fighter
00:00:45 <Mekkis> it's a bipedal gnome synthesist !
00:01:00 <Mort> where was the competition thing again
00:01:09 <Mekkis> not a competition, Mort
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00:02:48 <Mort> darkwhit
00:02:53 <Mort> e
00:02:54 <DarkWhite> ?
00:03:01 <Mort> darkwhite where was teh character creation thignie :D
00:03:01 <Mort> the things to create
00:03:07 <Mort> at 1,4 and 7 right?
00:03:19 <Mort> how much Gp do you get once you hit 4 and 7?
00:03:21 <Mort> Ive not created any high level characters before
00:03:50 <DarkWhite> Guide to Organised Play?
00:04:29 <Mort> ah so its down there?
00:04:57 <DarkWhite> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
00:04:58 <DarkWhite> not sure
00:04:59 <Mekkis> there are some numbers in the Guide
00:05:06 <Mekkis> but they're for 3.5e conversion
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00:05:28 <Mekkis> there are some numbers in the core rules, but I'm sure there's something wrong with that too
00:05:49 <Mekkis> if I were you, I'd look at level 4 Valaros and see how much money he has in total worth
00:07:35 <Mort-> on balligs dnd web?
00:07:37 <Mort-> sounds liek an idea
00:08:04 <DarkWhite> Oddly enough. Hide shirt is in two different modules, the hide shirt is only banned in one of them.
00:08:05 <DarkWhite> It's in two different Player's Guides for two different Adventure Paths. The one which is legal is keeping with the intended flavor. The one which is not allowed is a Med. Armor, the one that is allowed is Light.
00:08:37 <Mekkis> I noticed something in Before The Dawn I's chronicle sheet
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00:09:01 <Mort-> that ranger is using a bow and longsword right?
00:09:04 <Mort-> single longsword
00:09:09 <Mort-> means its probably like tasiv
00:09:09 <Mekkis> the cost of the Feather Token (whip) is 300gp
00:09:26 <Mekkis> is this a misprint, or does it somehow give you a 200gp discount?
00:09:56 <DarkWhite> not sure, I've seen misprints on cost like that before
00:10:08 <Mort-> what weapon is that ranger using
00:10:11 <Mort-> bow and longsword right?
00:10:19 <Mekkis> bow
00:10:27 <Mort-> http://www.pathfinderminis.com/gallery2.htm
00:10:32 <Mort-> the sheathe is a longsword sheathe
00:10:38 <Mekkis> could be
00:10:57 <DarkWhite> I don't actually see any sword
00:10:57 <Mort-> brown curly hair, with brown eyebrows and moustache
00:11:07 <DarkWhite> I've got the figure in hand now
00:11:12 <Mort-> eyes Id say black
00:11:14 <Mort-> the sheathe
00:11:17 <Mort-> is a longsword sheathe
00:11:20 <Mort-> at least if I interpret it
00:11:27 <DarkWhite> it's actually a quiver of arrows, not a sheathe
00:11:41 <Mort-> quiver should be onyour back?
00:11:46 <Mekkis> so he has two quivers: one on his back, one at his side?
00:11:46 <DarkWhite> he does have a knife in his boot though
00:11:52 <Mort-> bloody thing isnt loading too well
00:11:56 <DarkWhite> this one is strapped across his waist
00:12:03 <Mekkis> are we sure he's a ranger, not a fighter?
00:12:03 <Mort-> I interpret is scabbard for longsword
00:12:07 <DarkWhite> it definitely appears to have arrows in it
00:12:10 <Mort-> thats what the figurine says
00:12:14 <Mort-> the resolution online aint that good
00:12:20 <DarkWhite> figure says ranger on the base
00:12:26 <Mekkis> Mort-, http://paizo.com/image/content/Blog/092311_RangerPreview.jpg
00:12:26 <Mort-> I dont even see the knife
00:12:28 <Mort-> on the boot
00:12:31 <DarkWhite> but you could repurpose him if you wish
00:13:13 <Mort-> I stlil dont see the knife
00:13:18 <Mort-> but wow the arrow is that fat?
00:13:19 <Mort-> lol
00:13:27 <DarkWhite> see those yellow bits sticking out the top? they're his arrows
00:13:33 <Mekkis> oh, and Valaros cheated on his Beginner box pregen :)
00:13:42 <DarkWhite> they're the feathers
00:13:48 <Mekkis> he pulled 2HP out of thin air
00:13:56 <DarkWhite> not surprising
00:14:04 <Mort-> yeah I saw
00:14:08 <Mort-> on the better picture
00:14:12 <Mort-> now lets go get some sheets
00:14:24 <Mekkis> Mort-, try http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler
00:14:30 <DarkWhite> the knife difficult to see in that shot .. but it's there
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00:15:36 <Mort-> does ballig's PDF sheets work?
00:15:38 <Mort-> or is it down to txt again
00:15:40 <DarkWhite> how do I signup/login?
00:15:46 <Mort-> get avatar/ballig
00:15:48 <Mort-> give you access
00:15:48 <Mekkis> has Avatar given you a login yet?
00:16:09 <DarkWhite> I asked earlier .. not sure Avatar reponded though
00:16:31 <Avatar> I missed it
00:16:34 <Avatar> sec
00:16:47 <Avatar> what's your character's name? Lo'gan?
00:16:54 <DarkWhite> Lo'gan Kho
00:17:15 <DarkWhite> I have a few characters .. not sure I'll be playing them all online though
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00:17:32 <Avatar> give me all of them
00:17:38 <Avatar> I'll add them and if you dont' play them, that's fine
00:17:39 <Avatar> just first names
00:19:39 <Mort-> okay knife + longbow
00:19:41 <Mort-> for ranged fighting
00:19:41 <Mekkis> is it reasonable for the elf wizard to have a weapon?
00:19:45 <Mort-> defintiely need to start having..
00:19:47 <Mort-> why not
00:19:52 <Mort-> my elf whizzzie has a longsword
00:19:54 <Mort-> thats why Im elf
00:19:57 <Mekkis> there isn't one on the mini
00:20:03 <Mort-> longsword + longbow proficiency
00:20:05 NickOP sets mode -r Mekkis
00:20:06 <Mort-> just give a staff
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00:20:12 <Mort-> eveyrone knwos gandalf uses a staff
00:20:40 <Mekkis> no
00:20:43 <Mekkis> he had a longsword
00:20:47 <Mekkis> get it right
00:20:52 <Avatar> yeah he dual wielded them
00:21:07 <Mekkis> he grabbed it from the troll horde in /The Hobbit/
00:21:12 <Mort-> urm
00:21:17 <Mort-> why is it I remember the LOTR version
00:21:18 <Mort-> on PS
00:21:21 <Avatar> wizards should be able to specifically dual wield a quarterstaff with another weapon
00:21:21 <Mort-> I was using a staff?
00:21:32 <Mort-> I was using a staff!
00:21:36 <Mort-> I hit bad guys using a staff
00:21:39 <Mort-> nevermind
00:22:09 <Mort-> how do you see level 4 valeros with gp
00:22:11 <Mort-> I got the pregens
00:22:15 <Mort-> but not showing how much gp they have
00:22:20 <Mekkis> you add it all up
00:23:18 <Mort-> urgh..
00:23:22 <Mort-> I have a headache and I hate maths :D
00:24:38 <Mort-> 6000 gp?
00:24:40 <Mort-> hrm sounds good
00:24:46 <Mort-> at least its better to count cookies now
00:25:28 <Mekkis> what would her bonded item be?
00:25:42 <Mort-> ID say a staff mm
00:31:11 <Mekkis> it's not on her mini
00:31:21 <Mekkis> maybe ring
00:33:21 <Avatar> I actually considered going druid/magus for a while
00:33:27 <Avatar> but I don't think it would work very well
00:33:52 <Mekkis> why not druid-with-no-archtype?
00:34:11 <Avatar> the reason I haven't had a druid up until now is because I hate the pure druid
00:34:26 <Avatar> I think all the class abilities you get at each level are garbage
00:34:43 <Avatar> wild shape never really appealed to me either
00:34:50 <Mekkis> too much paperwork?
00:35:39 <Avatar> woodland stride is just moving through overgrown areas without issue, which rarely, if ever, happens
00:35:43 <Mort-> the problem is if you go druid magus
00:35:49 <Avatar> trackless step - when do you get ever tracked
00:35:49 <Mort-> is that your druid will give arcane failure penalty
00:35:52 <Mort-> to your magus side
00:35:59 <Mort-> so you can only use divine spells in spellcombat
00:36:02 <Mort-> I think
00:36:11 <Avatar> resist nature's lure is bonuses to saves vs fey ?
00:36:14 <Mort-> though there is a skill called broad study that lets you use other spells for spellcombat
00:36:21 <Avatar> and wildshape is too much paperwork
00:36:25 <Mort-> i did think of crossclassing magus before but it..
00:36:33 <Mort-> doesnt mesh wiht alot of thigns if you still want to cast onit
00:37:30 <Mort-> what iD really want to xclass magus with is maybe a fighter for weapon specialization and feats
00:37:42 <Mort-> but its going to fk up ANY kind of arcane casting I ever will have
00:37:50 <Avatar> yeah
00:37:58 <Mort-> at level 10..almost end game, I can take half my magus levels as fighter levels for feat qualification
00:38:00 <Avatar> arcane armour proficiency would be handy
00:38:01 <Mort-> which by that time
00:38:02 <Mort-> is too late
00:38:08 <Avatar> I think?
00:38:13 <Avatar> or doesn't that work with magus
00:38:21 <Mort-> I dont need arcane armor proficiency
00:38:26 <Mort-> as a magus tehcnially
00:38:38 <Avatar> yeah it would work
00:38:43 <Avatar> it doesn't restrict to light armour
00:39:11 <Mort-> the moment I take fighter, full arcane penalties will hit me
00:39:13 <Mort-> on the magus side
00:39:33 <Mort-> I will take on the fighter class the arcane spell penalties
00:39:47 <Avatar> eldritch heritage could be good
00:39:58 <Avatar> I could dump my str and bump my charisma instead
00:40:05 <Avatar> that'd be a good use of my aasimarness
00:40:34 <Mort-> Prerequisites: Cha 13, Skill Focus with the class skill of bloodline selected for this feat (see below), character level 3rd.
00:40:35 <Mort-> cant
00:40:39 <Mort-> not for my magus
00:40:42 <Mort-> I already set some routes
00:40:47 <Mort-> but I can look at arcane armor stuff
00:40:51 <Mort-> though I think it is a waste of time
00:40:56 <Avatar> good for my druid though
00:40:57 <Mort-> must as well stay full magus and fk the armor
00:42:04 <Mort-> once Ihit 7
00:42:11 <Mort-> Im going to get myself a mithral full plate
00:42:17 <Mort-> I can wear medium armor at 7..
00:43:04 <Mort-> no I dont think magus can be xclassed
00:43:20 <Mort-> not without more trouble then its worth
00:45:23 <Mort-> mithral fullplate isnt a bad idea
00:45:25 <Avatar> is there no good druid feats?
00:45:27 <Mort-> I acutally ahve +2 dex so I can..
00:45:35 <Mort-> make pretty decent use of it
00:45:52 <Mort-> only problem is it costs a fking bomb
00:47:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, and Animal Companion?
00:47:46 <Mort-> wow
00:47:49 <Mort-> if I dont dump stat
00:47:51 <Mort-> it really sux
00:48:18 <Mort-> any combat feats taht lets you use str on a range weapon intsead of dex?
00:48:20 <Avatar> same deal as wildshape
00:48:42 <Mekkis> what do you mean same deal?
00:48:43 <Avatar> don't think so
00:48:45 <Avatar> how would that work
00:48:46 <Mekkis> too much paperwork?
00:48:50 <Avatar> yeah :P
00:48:59 <Mekkis> not really
00:49:22 <Avatar> I keep forgetting druids can't even use bows
00:49:26 <Avatar> or xbows
00:49:34 <Mekkis> so?
00:49:42 <Avatar> I keep leaning towards the point blank tree
00:49:48 <Avatar> and then remember that I can't really use it
00:50:08 <Mekkis> work out what your druid is doing before you decide on feats or archtypes
00:51:00 <Avatar> the archetype decides what my druid is
00:51:14 <Mekkis> no, it's the other way around
00:51:27 <Mekkis> you decide what your druid is, then choose the most suitable archetype
00:51:45 <Avatar> he's a spellcasting urban druid
00:51:56 <Avatar> so urban druid is his most suitable archetype
00:52:22 <Avatar> hang on, I'll make it even better for you
00:52:43 <Avatar> I want him to be able to spontaneously cast domain spells
00:52:52 <Mekkis> you're really making it hard on yourself. What sort of spells, and what will he do after he's run out of spells
00:53:07 <Avatar> and have a good lot of lore class skills
00:54:28 <Avatar> I guess I have to make him a bit of a meleer
00:54:42 <Avatar> hey, where is that throw anything feat
00:54:43 <Mekkis> what sort of spells?
00:54:47 <Avatar> that could be fun
00:55:13 <Mort-> Mod
00:55:13 <Mort-> Str: 16 +3
00:55:13 <Mort-> Dex: 16 +3
00:55:13 <Mort-> Con: 12 +1
00:55:13 <Mort-> Int: 10 +0
00:55:13 <Mort-> Wis: 13 +1
00:55:13 <Mort-> Cha: 10 +0
00:55:13 <Mekkis> core
00:55:14 <Mort-> gn
00:55:16 <Mort-> hm
00:55:19 <Mort-> hows this for ranger stats
00:55:24 <Mort-> just ran acouple of em true
00:55:26 <Mort-> through
00:55:39 <Mekkis> Mort-, here's what I've got for the elf wizard
00:55:41 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=5
00:55:52 <Avatar> you can't exactly magick up anything when you throw anything though, can you
00:56:01 <Mekkis> sure
00:56:06 <Mort-> elf can hit 20 for int acutally
00:56:06 <Avatar> better to take a weapon proficiency feat
00:56:07 <Mekkis> get lots of Adamantine wayfinders
00:56:13 <Mekkis> Mort-, I know
00:56:28 <Mort-> screw cha more dex :p
00:56:29 <Mort-> lol
00:56:29 <Mort-> haha
00:56:36 <Avatar> couple of repeating crossbows wouldn't go astray
00:56:55 <Mort-> and u guys still havent told me whats a reachrod for
00:57:07 <Mekkis> Spaceshot thinks it's good
00:57:14 <Mekkis> I think Spaceshot's talking shit
00:57:54 <Mort-> mm
00:57:55 <Mort-> bit sleepy
00:57:57 <Mort-> :D
00:58:11 <Mort-> Im still using notepad format >.<
00:58:12 <Mort-> lol
00:58:15 <Mort-> old school..
00:58:27 <DarkWhite> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=360
00:58:37 <DarkWhite> Lo'gan's deceased brother
00:58:42 <DarkWhite> 1st-level
00:58:49 <DarkWhite> I'll need to update it
00:58:55 <DarkWhite> but it's a start
00:58:56 <MekkisScreen> Deceased has no brother!
00:59:04 <DarkWhite> haha :)
01:00:01 <Mort-> wow
01:00:04 <Mort-> I didnt knwo your ninja was smart
01:00:10 <Mort-> btw you should have a little conversation with khaz
01:00:13 <Mort-> he has issues
01:00:17 <DarkWhite> sure, I wanted extra skillz
01:00:37 <DarkWhite> Goka died on a Pathfinder mission
01:00:37 <Mort-> he urm
01:00:39 <Mort-> has 17 ac
01:00:40 <Mort-> oh dear
01:00:46 <Mort-> and he is nervous about being in the melee :P
01:00:54 <DarkWhite> Lo'gan went searching for him, and has joined Shadow Lodge as a result
01:01:12 <DarkWhite> actually, I played him AC 15 today
01:01:13 <Mort-> lol
01:01:30 <Mort-> thats why khaz has been trying to work out ninja acts!
01:01:34 <Mort-> with a fogstick :p
01:01:36 <Mort-> oh dear.
01:02:14 <Avatar> lamellar armor is light armor, +4 AC, +3 max dex, -2 ACP
01:02:16 <Avatar> 60gp
01:02:19 <Avatar> that's pretty sweet
01:02:21 <DarkWhite> I think their stats are identical (except Lo'gan got past 1st level)
01:02:23 <Mort-> is made out of what
01:02:25 <Avatar> leather
01:02:29 <Mort-> ah
01:02:32 <Mort-> becuase some eastern armors
01:02:35 <Mort-> are made out of plate
01:02:38 <Mort-> as in metal strips
01:02:44 <Mort-> the stonecoat was an eastern armor type
01:02:48 <Mort-> 45 lbs but no dex bonus
01:03:02 <Avatar> it seems to be the equivalent of the chain shirt for druids
01:03:05 <Mort-> khaz is smart..
01:03:06 <Avatar> and it's 40gp cheaper !
01:03:08 <Mort-> yeah good
01:03:12 <Mort-> taht
01:03:14 <Mort-> do
01:03:17 <Mort-> about 16 int worth
01:03:26 <Mort-> 18str,14 dex 16 int 13 cons..
01:03:28 <Mort-> 7 for wis and cha
01:03:29 <Mort-> lol
01:03:32 <Mort-> the price paid sigh....
01:04:46 <Mekkis> !recentsheets
01:04:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 15:55 360 <title>#d&d - Lo'gan - View Character</title>
01:04:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 03:50 336 Zirul
01:04:48 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 00:53 289 Mort
01:04:48 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-10 23:38 328 Tasiv
01:04:48 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-10 12:25 359 Landruff
01:04:56 <Mekkis> hmm
01:05:00 <Mekkis> !history Mort
01:05:12 <Mort-> what does that give u?
01:05:16 <Mekkis> !history 289
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01:05:18 <Mort-> how many cookies I stole?
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01:05:19 <Mort-> :P
01:05:30 <Avatar> I'm sort of wondering whether combat expertise is worth it
01:05:32 <Mekkis> !diff 289 r165
01:05:33 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/289r165.txt
01:05:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you trying for one of its prerequisites?
01:06:03 <Avatar> not yet
01:06:07 <Mekkis> then no
01:06:18 <Avatar> you think combat expertise is garbage?
01:06:25 <Mekkis> yes
01:06:30 <Mekkis> to put it mildly
01:06:44 <Avatar> what if I want to get gang up
01:06:45 <Mekkis> it's "that shitty feat you need to take to get something like Improved Trip"
01:07:19 <Mekkis> it was more useful in 3.5
01:07:44 <Avatar> maybe dodge/mobility is the chain to go for
01:07:50 <Avatar> quite a few options there
01:08:02 <Mekkis> why not the spell focus route?
01:08:15 <Avatar> no idea what spells I'll use
01:08:30 <Avatar> I am a druid spell noob
01:08:34 <Mekkis> since it's established that you're not going the fighting routh
01:08:36 <Mekkis> route
01:08:39 <DarkWhite> have to change my faction trait now :(
01:09:16 <Mort-> after dodge and mobility
01:09:17 <Mort-> what do you get
01:09:55 <Avatar> I dunno, spring attack
01:10:02 <DarkWhite> what character is this for?
01:10:07 <Mort-> a druid
01:10:08 <Avatar> my aasimar druid
01:10:13 <Mort-> druids probably need to be near fighting
01:10:15 <Mort-> but melee..?
01:10:18 <Mort-> not entirely sure youd want to
01:10:25 <Mort-> my magus has to melee. period.
01:10:27 <Avatar> yeah that's the thing, I don't even plan to go into melee much
01:10:31 <Mort-> Im still trying to worry about his ac problem
01:10:41 <Avatar> except for maybe shillelaigh or however you spell it
01:10:43 <Mort-> then you're probably better off with higher dx lower str
01:10:47 <Mort-> dex
01:10:56 <Mort-> but your dmg is gonna suck..
01:11:07 <Mort-> I generally like running charactesr with high str low dex
01:11:11 <Mort-> and just wear armor
01:11:14 <Mort-> casters are different story
01:11:15 <DarkWhite> does he/she venerate any parrticular animal, eg companion, totem etc?
01:11:31 <Mekkis> Druid: 1st - Shillelagh, Produce Flame, Entangle, Faerie Fire; 2nd - Flaming Sphere, Heat Metal, Lesser Restoration; 3rd - Call lightning, Contagion, Poison, Sleet Storm; 4th Freedom of movement, reincarnate
01:11:33 <Mekkis> scrying
01:11:34 <Avatar> no, doesn't like wildshaping, doesn't have a companion
01:11:50 <Mekkis> in other words, wants a druid who isn't really a druid
01:12:07 <Avatar> I just want to cast the spells
01:12:22 <Mekkis> but yeah, they're the spells you should look at
01:12:35 <Mekkis> druid is special in that it has the most banned spells in PFS!
01:12:40 <Avatar> those are all good
01:13:12 <Mekkis> you'll burn through slots quickly if you cast them a lot though
01:13:25 <Avatar> yeah but you get powers as well
01:13:27 <Avatar> from the domain
01:13:37 <Avatar> I know I need a backup plan
01:13:38 <Mekkis> it's clear from that list that Spell Focus Evocation is important
01:13:44 <Avatar> but that's what shillelagh and the like are for
01:13:57 <Mekkis> (flaming sphere, for instance, is reflex /negates/)
01:14:02 <Avatar> does evocation have many saves
01:14:09 <Avatar> okay
01:14:18 <Avatar> everytime I think evocation, I think magic missile
01:15:34 <Mekkis> the good thing about Call Lightning and Flaming Sphere is that you get a lot of shots for your slot
01:15:49 <Mekkis> also consider Spell Penetration
01:20:21 <Avatar> not at 1st level
01:21:07 <Mekkis> of course not
01:21:16 <Mekkis> spell focus maybe though
01:21:46 <DarkWhite> argh, I wanna update my HeroLab character, too tired to think
01:21:51 <DarkWhite> can wait until tomorrow
01:22:08 <DarkWhite> at least I don't have to GM tomorrow
01:22:15 <DarkWhite> RyanK's running Silent tide
01:22:28 <DarkWhite> though I should be prepared with a back-up plan
01:22:40 <DarkWhite> just incase we receive more players than expected
01:23:10 <DarkWhite> I'll probably bring Midnight Mauler, just in case
01:23:13 <Mort-> at lv 1?
01:23:18 <Mort-> u can use faerie fire?
01:23:19 <Mort-> wtf
01:23:21 <Mekkis> yeah
01:23:25 <Mort-> glitterdust is lv 2
01:23:25 <Mekkis> it's a great spell
01:23:31 <Mort-> I get skewed
01:23:34 <Mort-> glad I had the dust though
01:23:47 <Mekkis> it's even better on an intelligent weapon with blindsight!
01:24:00 <Mort-> see..?
01:24:04 <DarkWhite> who here hasn't played Midnight Mauler?
01:24:06 <Mort-> why
01:24:09 <Mekkis> I haven't
01:24:10 * Mort- raises paw
01:24:15 <Mort-> what tier
01:24:17 <DarkWhite> really Mek???
01:24:19 <Mort-> anwyay - morts busy
01:24:24 <Mort-> so, not till a fortnight later :D
01:24:25 <Mekkis> really
01:24:38 <Mort-> what level is midnight mauler
01:24:44 <Mekkis> 1-5 I think
01:24:44 <Mort-> is it safe to bring lv 1s in?
01:24:49 <Mort-> ah k
01:24:51 <Mort-> khaz will be fine
01:24:53 <Mort-> I think
01:24:58 <Avatar> if mekkis hasn't played it, none of us have
01:25:00 <DarkWhite> it's 1-7 .. about to become 1-5 or 3-7 (can't remember which?)
01:25:18 <Mekkis> if it's anything like the other scenario set in Ustalav, it'll be filed under "TPK at all tiers"
01:25:27 <Mort-> u serious?
01:25:29 * Mort- gulps
01:25:32 <Mort-> I have shield scrolls!
01:25:35 <Mort-> geezus
01:25:36 <Avatar> pass on TPK scenarios
01:25:38 <Mort-> some old habits die hard
01:25:42 <Mekkis> probably 3-7 - less rewriting to do
01:25:53 <Mort-> oh dear
01:25:55 <Mort-> k we'll pass :D
01:26:07 <Mekkis> (I'm referring to The Darkest Vengeance
01:26:25 <DarkWhite> it's not a TPK scenario .. none-the-less, some teams fail their mission
01:26:51 <Avatar> as long as they don't fail by everyone dying, that's fine :P
01:26:58 <Mort-> Im really like
01:26:59 <DarkWhite> nope
01:27:02 <Mort-> how much should you spend on consumables
01:27:13 <Mort-> I mean u know my whizzie probably has a whole set of consumables, but thats overdone..
01:27:22 <DarkWhite> it's actually a fun scenario, for the most part
01:27:22 <Mort-> for a melee I DO have a LOT of beter things to spend on then consumables..
01:27:52 <DarkWhite> I might see if I can GM it online
01:27:57 <Mort-> lol
01:28:18 <Mekkis> I think I should sleep now
01:28:36 <DarkWhite> it's a 5-star / VC / VL exclusive for another week or two, then it's available for any GM to run
01:29:11 <Avatar> yeah if you want to GM it in here, by all means
01:29:14 <Mort-> geezus
01:29:16 <DarkWhite> think I should too sleep too
01:29:19 <Mort-> thinking what kahz would have odne
01:29:22 <Mort-> yeah Ill go to bed too
01:29:26 <Mort-> porbalby try to roll performance
01:29:33 <Mort-> acrobatics
01:29:35 <Avatar> I'll be up doing this druid until 5am
01:29:36 <Mort-> but its shitty
01:29:38 <Mort-> hehe
01:29:38 <Mort-> :D
01:29:45 <Mort-> let me have alook at khaz on his skillsets
01:29:54 <DarkWhite> heheh @ Avatar
01:29:57 <Avatar> or probably not, since we have a game at 11
01:30:19 * Mort- really wishes she could be there
01:30:21 <Mort-> but not fair to the party
01:30:41 <Mort-> is it any good to have like +4 for a knowledge skill?
01:30:45 <Mort-> say that you hav ehte points for it?
01:30:49 <Avatar> definitely
01:30:52 <Mort-> bleh like religion or something
01:30:56 <Avatar> knowledge skills are fantastic
01:30:58 <Mort-> I mean the only thing is ILl put one rank in it for int
01:31:06 <Mort-> khaz is NOT a knowledge whore like mort is
01:31:10 <Avatar> only need 1
01:31:11 <Mort-> mort is..epic..pwnage for that kind of thing
01:31:28 <Mort-> walking encyclopedia
01:31:45 <Mort-> khaz atm I only have arcana, dungeoneering
01:31:48 <DarkWhite> Avatar .. game at 11? online or Blackburn?
01:31:56 <Mort-> online
01:32:12 <DarkWhite> awww .. thought you might be joining us
01:32:32 <Avatar> brunius is running echoes of the overwatched
01:32:46 <DarkWhite> cool :)
01:33:14 <Mort-> I would be glad ot
01:33:17 <Mort-> but I play essentialy
01:33:19 <Mort-> half the sceanrio
01:33:24 <Mort-> the other half Im busy at a birthday party
01:33:26 <Mort-> would it be fair?
01:33:28 <Mort-> id say not :(
01:33:41 <Avatar> do you guys ever run games during the week?
01:33:54 * DarkWhite = no
01:33:58 <Mort-> lol
01:34:05 <Mort-> darkwhite. u not a jobless fk? :D
01:34:06 <Mort-> hehhe
01:34:07 <Avatar> not just you, anyone
01:34:10 <Mort-> I was a jobless fk till recently..
01:34:24 <Avatar> did you get a job
01:34:24 <DarkWhite> I can't guarantee getting off work on time to game in the evening
01:34:30 <Mort-> yeah I did
01:34:36 <Mort-> didnt u notice I dissappear during the day time?
01:34:38 <Mort-> werking
01:34:39 <Mort-> :P
01:34:40 * Mort- blushes
01:34:47 <Avatar> don't you work at good games during the week
01:34:56 <DarkWhite> me? naah
01:34:59 <Mort-> lol I dont
01:35:08 <Avatar> geez how did I miss that
01:35:16 <DarkWhite> is there Good GAmes in .sg?
01:35:25 <Mort-> dont think so
01:35:31 <Mort-> I havent seen anyone make a knowledge history check yet
01:35:33 <Mort-> hrm not so useful..
01:35:43 <Mort-> religion local is impt I think
01:35:59 <Mort-> linguistics is good too
01:36:07 <DarkWhite> knowledge history comes up from time-to-tome
01:36:16 <DarkWhite> knowlege religion is useful
01:36:28 <DarkWhite> linguistics is more useful than one would suspect
01:36:35 <DarkWhite> eg, today apparently
01:36:39 <Avatar> I have great faith in linguistics
01:36:52 <Avatar> I took a chance on it and ended up using it a lot
01:37:10 <DarkWhite> often required by faction missions
01:37:14 <Mort-> religion is useful
01:37:17 <DarkWhite> some factions more than others, I suspect
01:37:18 <Mort-> linguistics next level on khaz
01:37:23 <Mort-> atm Im doing the class skills first
01:37:29 <Mort-> next level I think its religion, linguistics..
01:37:29 <Mort-> local
01:37:33 <Mort-> I have 5 points ot spend
01:37:56 <Mort-> nature/geography/history better or not
01:37:57 <DarkWhite> local comes up during most VC intros
01:38:03 <Mort-> local is useful
01:38:07 <Mort-> since khaz can never diplo
01:38:09 <Mort-> -2 for cha
01:38:14 <Mort-> he gets to find his information somewhere else
01:38:52 <DarkWhite> g'nite guys ...
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06:53:17 <Ballig> zzz
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09:43:00 <Avatar> zzz
09:44:02 <Brunius> your a azzz
09:45:19 <Avatar> I sure am
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09:52:35 <tristen> hola!
09:53:40 <Avatar> aloha
09:54:06 <tristen> we had a cracking game yesterday...
09:54:54 <Ballig> smashing
09:55:01 <Avatar> did lura or her eidolon end up casting grease
09:55:06 <Avatar> and was it invisible grease
09:55:10 <tristen> nope!
09:55:14 <Avatar> lucky
09:55:22 <tristen> the eidelon died real quick
09:55:31 <tristen> mort was off at lunch and said "play my char"
09:55:36 <tristen> so i did XD
09:55:45 <tristen> and cast colourspray BAM
09:55:51 <tristen> down went eidelon
09:55:56 <tristen> over went leis
09:56:00 <tristen> coup de grace
09:56:12 <tristen> end of story for the eidelon
09:56:34 <tristen> lura put up a bit of a fight
09:56:43 <tristen> but we had her way outnumbered
09:56:56 <tristen> i think i coup de graced her too!
09:57:46 <tristen> it took about an hour for us to start fighting...
09:57:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, their party worked together, and wasn't playing Minecraft
09:57:59 <tristen> i kept trying to start a mass-brawl
09:58:11 <Mekkis> I thought it was funny
09:58:19 <Mekkis> you paid off the guy with the horses
09:58:30 <Mekkis> and your PA took your money and walked out of the door
09:58:36 <tristen> that was SO crap
09:58:52 <tristen> everyone was like "we've caused enough trouble"
09:58:54 <Mekkis> I probably should have mentioned it a second time as they were leaving
09:58:59 <tristen> and i'm like "we haven't even started"
09:59:03 <Avatar> if only one of our party went to lunch
09:59:08 <tristen> no it was plainly said
09:59:24 <tristen> everyone was too worried about causing trouble in mos eisley
09:59:32 <tristen> mos eisley was MADE for trouble
09:59:56 <tristen> "a hive of scum and villainy"
10:00:14 <tristen> (read: bloodcove)
10:00:53 <tristen> the guys in the bar cheered us for murdering the patrons XD
10:00:58 <tristen> it was like "HURRAH!"
10:04:19 <Brunius> Who's around and available for Echoes?
10:04:54 <tristen> hey brunius
10:04:55 <Avatar> we're still waiting on thelen and kempt
10:05:14 <tristen> is this a level one thing today?
10:05:25 <Brunius> 1-5
10:05:47 <tristen> so kempt is level 1
10:05:55 <tristen> thelen is level 1 too? firon?
10:06:06 <tristen> avatar how about yout?
10:06:48 <tristen> i can level leis to 4 and play - or i can do a new level 1...
10:07:22 <tristen> and ballig, mekkis: what level chars you playing?
10:07:29 <Mekkis> I've played it
10:07:37 <tristen> k
10:08:11 <Ballig> I might not be able to play with this connection
10:08:33 <tristen> you wireless?
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10:08:58 * Mort- gawks :d
10:09:03 <tristen> morning!
10:09:11 <Mort-> Just watching
10:09:27 <Mort-> Gone in like 2.5-3h :(
10:09:38 <Ballig> tristen: tethered from my mobile
10:09:43 * Mort- fingers are itchy though :p
10:10:14 <tristen> k
10:10:19 <Avatar> here comes trouble
10:10:31 <tristen> you mean: here comes Trouble
10:11:11 <Mekkis> !recentsheets
10:11:12 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 15:55 360 <title>#d&d - Lo'gan - View Character</title>
10:11:13 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 03:50 336 Zirul
10:11:13 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-11 00:53 289 Mort
10:11:13 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-10 23:38 328 Tasiv
10:11:13 <diebot> Mekkis, 2012-02-10 12:25 359 Landruff
10:11:38 <tristen> why's that get spammed with html sometimes?
10:11:52 <Mekkis> because I'm not escaping my apostrophes
10:11:58 <tristen> sometimes findchar spams too
10:12:17 <Mort-> Did i tell you about the joke
10:12:41 <Mort-> About trouble shut up and manners?
10:12:54 <Mekkis> we know it
10:13:00 <tristen> no but i can hazard a guess...
10:13:04 <Mort-> Ah k :p
10:13:23 <Mort-> It involved them and a police station ^^
10:14:08 <Brunius> If we haven't russled up min table size by half past game is off
10:14:14 <Brunius> rustled up, even
10:14:42 <Mort-> Tristen - get thelen?
10:14:52 <Mort-> Avatar played this before?
10:15:00 <Avatar> obviously not if I'm playing today
10:15:19 <Mort-> Ok.
10:15:34 <tristen> mort: if he's not on skype...
10:15:37 <Mort-> So tristen needs to find thelen
10:15:42 <tristen> i could call his mobile...
10:15:44 <Mort-> Call his house :p
10:15:56 <Mort-> Did he sign up for todays stuff?
10:16:02 <tristen> good question
10:16:05 <Avatar> it might be worth putting it off anyway if ballig can't make it and we can't contact kempt on top of thelen not being here
10:16:29 <tristen> it's gone from the site?
10:16:30 <Avatar> 5 down to 2 is a pretty atrocious turnout
10:16:35 <Brunius> Yeah tis
10:17:03 <tristen> avatar: what level char were you planning on playing?
10:17:13 <Avatar> Snickers
10:17:16 <Avatar> maybe Snake
10:17:20 <Avatar> so 2, or maybe 1
10:17:22 <Mort-> Ballig can't be here because
10:17:25 <tristen> righto
10:17:30 <Mort-> He is on cell? :p
10:17:34 <Avatar> I could play Cairo if we're doing high tier
10:17:37 <Ballig> Mort-: right
10:17:38 <Avatar> who is 5
10:17:42 <Ballig> slow and unreliable connection
10:17:48 <tristen> tasiv is 5 and leis is 4
10:17:53 <Mort-> Did you try
10:17:54 <tristen> but i'm happy to start a level 1
10:18:06 <Avatar> what level is Rek
10:18:07 <Mort-> Using cell to wireless your lap top?
10:18:12 <Avatar> oh, leis
10:18:12 <tristen> rek is awol
10:18:19 <Avatar> I keep getting those two confused
10:18:20 <Ballig> Mort-: I'm tethering the phone to my PC
10:18:24 <tristen> but he's level 1...
10:18:25 <Mort-> Rek doesn't exsist cote
10:18:29 <Ballig> I'm not actually using my phone to type, I'm just using its data connection
10:18:31 <Mort-> I did it before.
10:18:40 <Mort-> Actually its stable enough
10:18:44 <Avatar> yeah time to get a new level 1 character ready Just In Case
10:18:51 <tristen> k i'll do that
10:20:25 <Brunius> I think I have like 4 level 1 characters ready Just In Case
10:20:29 <Mort-> Anyway ballig. You can play on cell connection
10:20:30 <Brunius> Er, 3 now
10:20:42 <Ballig> Mort-: that's not for you to decide though is it
10:20:50 <Mort-> True
10:20:54 <Avatar> I wish I only had 3
10:20:54 <Mort-> But well :p
10:21:04 * Mort- fingers itch
10:21:16 <tristen> ballig you must do as mort commands...
10:21:28 <tristen> you're feeling sleepy, sleeeeeepy
10:21:34 <Mort-> Ah yes ^^
10:21:38 <Brunius> you're commanding that, tristen
10:21:39 <Brunius> Not mort
10:21:40 <tristen> play...the...game...ballig....
10:21:47 * Mort- cheers tristen on
10:21:55 <Mort-> Haha :p
10:28:18 * Mort- twiddles stump
10:29:58 * Ballig sets Mort-'s stump on fire
10:30:35 <Brunius> Aright, game's off
10:30:37 <Brunius> Sorry guys :S
10:33:00 <Avatar> not your fault
10:33:00 <Avatar> can you run it on saturday
10:33:00 * Mort- jumps into a pond.
10:33:00 <Brunius> Next Saturday?
10:33:00 <Avatar> coming saturday
10:33:00 <Brunius> Hasn't Mekkis booked that?
10:33:00 <Mort-> Yes he has
10:33:00 <Avatar> the 18th
10:33:00 <Mort-> Wait no
10:33:00 <Avatar> he's booked the week after
10:33:00 <Mort-> He booked the fortnight after
10:33:00 <Mort-> Well that's how i felt on week days
10:33:04 <Mort-> Only me and hydra around
10:33:13 <Avatar> that's because it's a weekday
10:33:30 <Mort-> I would try to level us up
10:33:46 <Mort-> He can be like online 20/7 during week days
10:34:19 <Avatar> Brunius y/n?
10:34:24 <Brunius> Uhhhm
10:34:31 <Brunius> See how things pan out
10:34:37 <Avatar> okay
10:35:06 <Mort-> Sat i should be fine
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10:35:22 <Mort-> I need to shop fora pink dress though
10:35:29 <Brunius> What about the one in mort.jpg
10:35:35 <Mort-> So one Sunday will be eaten
10:35:44 <Mort-> The colour theme was light pink
10:35:49 <Mort-> Thats mageta
10:35:50 <Mort-> Can't
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10:36:21 <Brunius> Not sure what happened there
10:36:29 <Mort-> Already got yelled at saying I'm colour blind when i suggested that
10:36:35 <Mort-> Happened to me yesterday
10:36:42 <Brunius> Counter accuse them of being colour blind
10:36:43 <Mort-> One Sunday i think ill be gone
10:36:49 <Brunius> Say your friends on the internet think that's pink
10:36:53 <Mort-> Lol
10:36:57 <Brunius> That'll work, right?
10:36:59 <Mort-> To go shopping
10:37:02 <Mort-> No
10:37:14 <Mort-> I really don't like to shop
10:37:26 <Mort-> I think ill see if i can shop on a week day
10:37:38 <Brunius> Won't you be working
10:37:52 <Mort-> Now shopping for scrolls and other stuff is a different story ^^
10:37:55 <Brunius> Dammit Minotaur, ship my stuff already!
10:37:57 <Mort-> After work
10:38:13 <Mort-> Now i would happily spend hs
10:38:39 <Mort-> Shopping for stuff like grease.
10:38:52 <Mort-> Alchemist fire
10:39:05 <Mort-> Climbing kits
10:39:25 <Mort-> Oh yes. The tanglefoot bags
10:39:41 <Mort-> And true strike wand / scroll!
10:39:58 <Mort-> Say good bye to your range touch attack woes!
10:40:14 <Mort-> With a single true strike spell!
10:41:44 * Mort- mmphs
10:42:09 <Mort-> Lets go read walters magus creation guide again
10:42:19 <Mort-> Maybe ill read the wizard guide as well
10:42:57 <Avatar> hasn't thelen already played echoes of the overwatched?
10:43:03 <Brunius> Yeah
10:43:06 <Brunius> I keep forgetting
10:43:09 <Avatar> why did he accept the invite
10:43:21 <Mort-> He didn't
10:43:24 <Brunius> Didn't realise what it was for?
10:43:25 <Avatar> he did
10:43:33 <Mort-> Trist said he cancelled?
10:43:42 <Avatar> oh that might be right
10:43:48 <Avatar> can't decline after you accept
10:44:13 <Ballig> yeah I'll add it in
10:44:27 <Ballig> I might see if I can make it so you can leave a comment too
10:44:38 <Mort-> Sometimes things crop up last minute
10:44:47 <Mort-> 17 march i won't be available either
10:44:52 <Mort-> Cousins wedding
10:44:56 <Brunius> Yeah I was about to suggest comments
10:45:01 <Mort-> But that's quite some way off
10:45:04 <Ballig> what sort of things show up in a feed on facebook
10:45:11 <Brunius> Time
10:45:16 <Brunius> The option to like
10:45:42 <Brunius> The option to report for spam
10:45:49 <Mort-> God
10:45:58 <Ballig> I mean the kinds of messages
10:46:01 <Mort-> The nearest public holiday
10:46:05 <Mort-> Is good Friday
10:46:07 <Mort-> :(
10:46:39 <Brunius> Fly down to melbourne for good friday!
10:46:45 <Brunius> Play some sweet PFS at conquest!
10:47:12 <Mort-> Would anyone be interested if i ran fs on week days split into like 3-4 2h sessions? :(
10:47:34 <Mort-> Problem is like weekdays when i get home its at least 7 pm
10:47:45 <Mort-> Or 10 pm aussie time
10:47:52 <Mort-> Play till midnight
10:47:57 <Mort-> Wtf :((
10:48:08 <Mort-> I don't think its a good idea.
10:48:21 <Mort-> I am after all 3 h behind all of you
10:48:23 <Mort-> :(
10:49:12 <Mort-> If i flew to play pfs in rl
10:49:25 <Mort-> I think i would have to carry tons of books
10:49:54 <Brunius> Mekkis: How much do your books weigh?
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10:50:16 <Brunius> Sledgy here is looking likely to be a spammer
10:50:39 <Mort-> Seriously
10:50:50 <Mort-> I would bring lap top around
10:50:51 <SledgeHammer> spammer?
10:50:55 <Mort-> Show them pdf
10:51:08 <Mort-> Because its more environmentally friendly
10:51:23 <Mort-> Save the earth!
10:51:36 * Mort- should have been a drood :p
10:51:51 <Brunius> I should mention you have to have legal copies of the pdfs
10:51:59 <Brunius> For them to be permissible at a PFS table
10:52:11 <Mort-> If i really played in life
10:52:14 <Brunius> We ignore that online, but IRL it might come up more
10:52:16 <Mort-> They would be legal
10:52:19 <Mort-> Believe me
10:52:31 <Mort-> I know how to purchase stuff just ^^
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10:55:09 <Mort> so yeahI wass back again
10:55:12 <Mort> time to read the guide
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17:14:08 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Feb 12 10:30:51 2012
17:14:35 <Mekkis> Brunius, how did your game go today?
17:14:57 <Mekkis> and I don't ignore it: I ask you whether you have a legal copy
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17:28:27 <Avatar> [17:37] <Jaggedsoul> I'm sad tha there is no game today :(
17:28:28 <Avatar> [17:43] * Jaggedsoul ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
17:28:28 <Avatar> [18:01] <Avatar> maybe you should have accepted the invite
17:28:28 <Avatar> [18:03] <tristen> and been here at 11!
17:28:28 <Avatar> [18:04] <Ballig> and not have signed out 17 minutes before people started telling you what you should've done!
17:29:19 <Jaggedsoul> :)
17:29:26 <Jaggedsoul> It was crazy
17:29:41 <Jaggedsoul> I wet to work late, around 4pm my time
17:29:50 <Jaggedsoul> and then had to render ot
17:30:02 <Jaggedsoul> crashed my bed as soon as I got home
17:30:19 <Jaggedsoul> woke up at 9am my time
17:30:37 <Jaggedsoul> so again, i am sad
17:30:52 <Avatar> I was here at 11, waited till 11.30, then went back to sleep until 4
17:31:00 <Jaggedsoul> and that's the reason why I was not able to accept the invite
17:31:16 <Avatar> it was there all week
17:32:51 <Jaggedsoul> The Quest for Perfection is showing 5pm Feb 17?
17:33:04 <Jaggedsoul> this is my time right?
17:33:37 <Jaggedsoul> and the end time shows 10am?
17:34:55 <Jaggedsoul> how abut now? any players?
17:35:13 <Avatar> er, does it
17:35:17 <Ballig> are you signed in
17:35:20 <Ballig> or are you looking at that in GMT
17:35:27 <Jaggedsoul> wait
17:35:31 <Jaggedsoul> lemme sign in
17:35:43 <Ballig> it's meant to show in Sydney time when you aren't signed in,b ut for some reason it's showing GMT
17:35:51 <Ballig> haven't found the problem yet
17:36:01 <Avatar> add a timezone field
17:36:43 <Ballig> it's in the account settings
17:36:46 <Ballig> it's been there forever
17:37:01 <Jaggedsoul> signed in
17:37:12 <Ballig> does it show as 8am now
17:37:14 <Avatar> no I mean on the schedule
17:37:21 <Avatar> so when you look at it you don't think it's 5pm your time
17:37:23 <Ballig> it's in the account settings
17:37:33 <Jaggedsoul> Ballig, yes
17:37:39 <Ballig> you're the one who made me take the login off that page man
17:37:45 <Ballig> you can't now blame me for people looking at it and not realising they aren't signed in
17:37:55 <Avatar> I'm not blaming you, it's good that it's not there
17:38:10 <Avatar> but you don't want people looking at it thinking it's in their timezone
17:39:02 <Ballig> I don't know the person's timezone, just the GMT offset
17:39:03 <Ballig> I don't know their timezone
17:39:11 <Avatar> I could run QFP 1 on friday is that works for people
17:39:17 <Avatar> if*
17:41:47 <Jaggedsoul> nah, saturday's good
17:42:28 <Avatar> brunius' game gets priority, if he can run it on saturday
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17:42:32 <Brunius> America
17:43:43 <Brunius> MekkisScreen: Game today didn't go ahead, not enough people
17:45:14 <Mekkis> ah
17:46:08 Mort ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
17:46:25 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=5
17:46:31 <Mort> hi
17:46:34 <Mort> the mort is back :D
17:46:40 <Mort> well that sure took ages
17:46:47 <Mort> glad I didnt think about playing dnd today
17:47:23 <Avatar> prepare for spam
17:47:33 <Mekkis> to interrupt it?
17:47:35 * Mort bombards channel wiht spam
17:47:36 <Brunius> Mekkis: Could I have access to http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/2-11Brunius.pdf please?
17:47:47 <Mort> ave misesed out with half he game
17:47:47 <Avatar> mort's here :P
17:47:58 <Mort> if I had tried to play
17:48:04 <Mort> I thought could u know, go there, eat, come back continue
17:48:08 <Mort> but aghh social functions in RL..
17:48:11 <Mort> likebirthaday parties
17:48:14 <Mort> we got there at 11.30 am
17:48:19 <Mort> didnt leave till like 1 pm
17:48:24 <Avatar> I don't mind having a day off every now and then
17:48:24 <Mort> acutally make it 1.30 pm
17:48:29 <Mort> what?
17:48:32 <Mort> I dont socialize in RL :D
17:48:35 <Mort> Im really shy ;)
17:48:36 <Avatar> a day off pathfinder
17:48:45 <Brunius> Avatar, go get a job.
17:48:47 <Brunius> Seriously.
17:48:54 <Avatar> okay
17:48:57 <Avatar> thanks for the tip
17:49:01 <Mort> yeah once u get a job
17:49:02 <Brunius> No problem :P
17:49:06 <Mort> u dont have to worry about being off for pathfinders
17:49:09 <Mort> u get the whole weekdays off
17:49:10 <Mort> :D
17:49:59 <Brunius> Why do I even have this game set to Deutsch
17:50:12 <Mort> but anyway
17:50:13 <Mort> ARGGGHH
17:50:14 <Mort> FOCUS
17:50:16 <Mort> BF BF BF
17:50:25 <Brunius> bf bf bf?
17:50:36 <Mort> battlefields
17:50:37 <Mort> got a kd to run
17:50:44 <Mekkis> Brunius, running an AP?
17:50:48 <Mekkis> in German?
17:51:02 <Brunius> AP = Adventure Path?
17:51:24 <Avatar> one game a week works plenty fine for me
17:51:28 <Mekkis> ja
17:51:34 <Brunius> Nein
17:51:42 <Brunius> Nicht sprechen sie Deutsch
17:52:04 <Mekkis> runnint an AP in English?
17:52:19 <Mort> hehe
17:52:25 <Brunius> Maybe
17:52:28 <Mort> yeah and avatar u should get a job :D
17:52:40 <Mort> like u know. can you write up modules for pazio as a job? :D
17:52:45 <Mort> mm
17:52:48 <Mort> I might log off do somethign else
17:52:55 <Mort> the only problem is I have no clue what else I should do
17:53:45 <Mort> do any of you knwo any nice pokemon versions to play?
17:53:51 <Mort> sort of want to turn my brains off for abit
17:54:43 <Avatar> urban druid has some pretty awful choices for domains I have to say
17:54:47 <Avatar> I think I'm going with weather
17:55:13 <Avatar> I can spontaneously cast any of the domain spells
17:55:25 <Avatar> but none of them in any domain I can choose from are good to be cast spontaneously
17:55:33 <Avatar> even the subdomains
17:56:41 <Mort> Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell’s final adjusted level.
17:56:44 <Mort> what does this mean
17:56:48 <Mort> lv 1 spell --> lv 0?
17:56:49 <Mort> I dunno
17:57:00 <Avatar> like if you have quicken spell
17:57:10 <Avatar> you treat it as if it were 3 levels higher
17:57:12 <Mort> I would probably have empower spell..
17:57:13 <Avatar> instead of 4 levels higher
17:57:53 <Mekkis> empower spell, scorching ray isn't bad
17:58:18 <Mort> but the max dmg is 5d6 on a shocking grasp?
17:58:23 <Mort> oh wait. what does empower do
17:58:31 <Mort> not htat youre gonna reach it any time soon
17:58:35 <Avatar> so empower spell uses up a slot 2 levels higher
17:58:39 <Avatar> with that trait, it's one level higher instead
17:58:51 <Avatar> for that one spell
17:59:17 <Mort> I heard alot of magi swear by the shocking grasp
17:59:56 <Mort> Toppling Spell (Metamagic)
18:00:13 <Mort> A toppling spell only affects spells with the force descriptor. A toppling spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level.
18:00:14 <Mort> hrm
18:00:30 <Mort> i dounno why they swear by toppling spells, magical lineage and shocking grasp
18:00:33 <Mort> I see if I can figure it out
18:00:45 <Avatar> what does toppling spell do
18:00:48 <Avatar> knock people prone?
18:00:55 <Mort> trip
18:00:56 <Mort> yep it trips
18:01:01 <Mort> but so far the only ting ucan use it for
18:01:02 <Mort> is magic missile
18:01:36 <Mort> You take Toppling spell at 1st level and can have Trip Attempts layered on for free for the 1st 7 or so levels.
18:01:37 <Mort> Later putting Intensify on at higher levels has you doing up to 10d6 with NO save from what is still a 1st level spell.
18:01:56 <Mort> I dont think intensify is a pathfinder allowed thing though
18:01:57 <Mort> Il check
18:02:26 <Mekkis> !feat Topplin
18:02:30 <Mort> Benefit: An intensified spell increases the maximum number of damage dice by 5 levels.
18:02:31 <Mort> oh my god
18:03:02 <Mort> Pick one spell when you choose this trait. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell’s final adjusted level.
18:03:22 <Brunius> oh wow
18:03:27 <Mort> Benefit: An intensified spell increases the maximum number of damage dice by 5 levels.
18:03:28 <Mort> OH MY GOD
18:03:33 <Mort> well I suppose I was rather new
18:03:35 <Mort> when I created my magus
18:03:40 <Mort> didnt read all the guides people wrote
18:03:48 <Brunius> Who needs guides
18:03:56 <Mort> well I made it up on the spot I guess
18:03:58 <Brunius> You just level your character to 6 then abandon them after they die!
18:04:07 <Mort> argh
18:04:12 <Mort> now i know if I ever create a magus again what combi to do
18:04:16 <Mekkis> don't read guides
18:04:16 <Mort> I owouldnt change anything else though
18:04:19 <Mekkis> it's bad
18:04:24 <Mort> I cant help it :D
18:04:31 <Mort> I read..stuffs
18:05:10 <Mort> but somehow they didnt play it theway I planned to'
18:05:51 <Mort> have I gone to the dark side yet?
18:06:07 <Mort> I still dont thik that shocking grasp can be used with quickdraw
18:06:11 <Mort> wait sorry
18:06:14 <Mort> with toppling spell
18:06:26 <Mort> becuase shockign grasp is NOT a force spell, its a lightining one
18:07:34 <Brunius> Are you sure it isn't force lightning
18:07:47 <Mort> urm
18:07:51 <Mort> Im trying to learn about the force
18:07:56 <Mort> but its so much more clunky
18:08:08 <Mort> basically it means my magus should be hurling shocking grasp all around the field
18:08:10 <Mekkis> I should probably start prepping Before the Dawn 2
18:08:11 <Mort> DAMN
18:08:14 <Mort> why didnt I read..
18:08:16 <Mort> the guide earlier :(
18:08:18 * Mort cries
18:08:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you prepped QFP1?
18:09:00 <Avatar> yeah, from when I ran silent tide
18:09:50 * Mort cries
18:10:04 <Mort> oh my goodnesss...
18:10:11 <Mort> imagine a shockign grasp every fight
18:10:36 <Mort> argggghhh!!!
18:10:39 <Mort> better go read on what more I missed out
18:10:48 <Mort> I dunno why they rate close range skill so badly
18:10:59 <Mort> maybe its because they're on shocking grasp crack, so if youre doing like 10d6 per combat round..
18:11:10 <Mort> you dont really miss out on an attack
18:11:15 <Mort> and I still think truestrike has potential
18:11:56 <Avatar> hmmm
18:12:05 <Avatar> do aasimars not get favoured class options
18:12:12 <Avatar> aside from the standard stuff
18:12:42 <Mort> thast really given me alot to think about
18:12:46 <MekkisScreen> not yet
18:14:29 * Mort goes ARRRGGGGHHHHH
18:14:32 <Mort> I really should have...
18:14:37 * Mort jumps up and down
18:17:01 * Mort goes and jumps into a pond argggghhhh
18:17:04 <Avatar> is anyone interested in doing a speedrun of first steps 3
18:17:19 <Avatar> (has anyone not played it?)
18:18:32 <Jaggedsoul> 1st steps 2 is what i havent played
18:18:58 <Jaggedsoul> zirul has not played 1st steps 3, and I wasnt really there for the latter haf
18:19:22 <Avatar> apparently brunius hasn't played any of the first stepses
18:19:23 <Jaggedsoul> Mekkis, PMd you
18:19:34 <Avatar> or shades of ices
18:19:45 <Avatar> oh wait, that's what he has played
18:20:09 <Mort> kendra
18:20:11 <Mort> hasnt
18:20:17 <Mort> kendra is fine
18:20:21 <Mort> Khaz already went to party
18:20:28 <Mort> mort is too late
18:20:40 <Mort> kendra is ready
18:20:48 <Mort> btw first steps 3 I cant say anything I knwo too much
18:20:55 <Jaggedsoul> when you say its illegal to replay scenarios
18:20:59 <Avatar> you're missing the point mort
18:21:02 <Avatar> everyone knows
18:21:04 <Mort> :D
18:21:06 <Jaggedsoul> is it per character or player?
18:21:11 <Avatar> per player
18:21:17 <Avatar> first steps and we be goblins are an exception
18:21:22 <Avatar> are exceptions*
18:23:32 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: given the choice, would you rather play or DM?
18:23:45 <Avatar> I'd prefer to mix it up
18:23:58 <Avatar> I don't want to just DM or just play
18:24:37 <Avatar> I'm screaming to DM now while the arcanacon ones are still in my head
18:26:42 <Mort> kendra is ready
18:26:43 <Mort> anytime
18:26:48 <Mort> as long as Im online shes ready to play
18:27:12 <Avatar> well why haven't you accepted the invite
18:28:12 <Mort> what invite?
18:28:34 <Avatar> for the QFP game
18:29:32 <Mort> Date: Friday, 17 February
18:29:33 <Mort> Start Time: 5:00 PM
18:29:33 <Mort> End Time: 10:30 AM
18:29:33 <Mort> urm
18:29:34 <Mort> cant
18:29:37 <Mort> sorry I need to alter
18:29:43 <Mort> 5 pm is my 2pm?
18:29:45 <Mort> Im still at work
18:30:13 <Mort> cant be playing at werk u know
18:30:22 <Avatar> the timezones are broken
18:30:25 <Mort> oh
18:30:25 <Avatar> it's 11am saturday
18:30:28 <Mort> OH THATS GREAT
18:30:30 <Mort> I can make it easy :D
18:30:34 <Jaggedsoul> that's 8am sat our time mort
18:30:50 <Mort> cool
18:30:51 <Mort> lets parteh :D
18:31:01 <Mort> anwyay
18:31:03 <Mort> mort wont be present
18:31:06 <Mort> khaz will be I think
18:31:16 <Mort> becuase mort is stuck in
18:32:05 <Jaggedsoul> Mort, add me in facebook!
18:32:32 <Mort> Actually, I'm running a medium-magic game (no casters with full spell progression). And most of them went divine or martial. Nobody has glitterdust, see invis, etc.
18:32:36 <Mort> I odnt have facbook
18:32:37 <Mort> lol
18:32:39 <Mort> what bunch of..
18:32:45 <Mort> mort HAS glitterdust..
18:32:50 <Mort> well shes out of it atm :(
18:33:07 <Mort> she has powder though :D
18:34:34 <Brunius> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=293188674078288&set=a.247057092024780.61501.156832574380566&type=1&ref=nf
18:35:40 <Mort> On a related topic, the magus touching his held weapon doesn’t count as “touching anything or anyone” when determining if he discharges the spell. A magus could even use the spellstrike ability, miss with his melee attack to deliver the spell, be disarmed by an opponent (or drop the weapon voluntarily, for whatever reason), and still be holding the charge in his hand, just like a normal
18:35:41 <Mort> spellcaster.
18:35:49 <Mort> that means should I fail my shocking grasp
18:35:55 <Mort> I am still holding the charge and can use it for next round
18:36:41 <Avatar> no I don't think so
18:36:52 <Avatar> you touch something to discharge the spell
18:37:02 <Avatar> but that doesn't mean like, you're "touching" your weapon
18:37:25 <Mort> it said there if you misss, you still hold the charge in your hand?
18:37:40 <Avatar> what do you mean by 'fail my shocking grasp'
18:37:46 <Mort> I cast shockging grasp
18:37:51 <Mort> I try to hit hte monster, and miss
18:37:52 <Mort> :D
18:37:52 <Avatar> if you miss your melee attack?
18:37:57 <Mort> when I deliver my spellstrike through melee
18:38:03 <Mort> yeah. it happens. Id say pretty often.
18:38:16 <Avatar> yeah if you miss your attack then you still have it
18:38:28 <Avatar> I thought you mean like it saves on its DC or something
18:38:30 <Mort> I will miss sometime or another
18:38:33 <Mort> shocking grasp has no save
18:38:36 <Mort> it only has SR
18:38:39 <Mort> I think
18:38:44 <Avatar> whatever, saves on its SR
18:39:05 <Avatar> it's saying it's counted as a separate thing to the melee attack
18:39:23 <Mort> saves me the trouble of burning up a spell slot next round :D
18:40:00 <Avatar> tristen: your traits page doesn't include the new factions?
18:41:58 <Mort> Close Range - As pointed out to me, Close Range is in fact the BEST and FIRST Arcana that should be taken.
18:41:58 <Mort> Why? Zero level spell Ray of Frost + Arcane Strike = Extra attack every chance I get.
18:42:03 * Mort reads a magus book :D
18:45:55 <Mort> You must actually have sufficient caster levels to surpass the maximum in order to benefit from this feat.
18:45:56 <Mort> oh ho
18:46:00 <Mort> so no point trying to do it early
18:46:05 <Mort> need minimum of lv 5
18:46:10 <Mort> 4 acutally
18:47:34 <Avatar> silver crusade's traits are terrible
18:48:04 <MekkisScreen> 8+ 697're asking what your faction will give you, Osirion wins
18:48:26 <Avatar> what?
18:48:50 <MekkisScreen> if you're asking what your faction will give you, Osirion wins
18:49:00 <MekkisScreen> sorry, phone
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18:49:43 <Avatar> perception as a class skill
18:49:47 <Avatar> I already have perception as a class skill
18:50:27 <Avatar> lantern lodge has a proficiency with a monk weapon
18:50:31 <Avatar> which I could probably sorely use
18:51:29 <MekkisScreen> 8pp for your first raise dead!
18:52:10 * Mort is trolling the boards
18:52:21 <Avatar> that's easy, don't die
18:52:55 <MekkisScreen> you're not very good at that :P
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18:53:51 <Mort> eir primary function being to save spells until truly needed in order to allow the Magus to Nova against BigBad encounters, the forte of the class. Forcing a SoS save every round, even a low one, while also attacking should not be underrated.
18:53:56 <Mort> Nova..
18:53:57 <Mort> I like
18:53:58 <Mort> damnnn
18:54:05 <Mort> why didnt I see the guide before I created my magus :(
18:54:13 <Mort> I could have saved myself one morning hunting for feats
18:54:21 <MekkisScreen> which boon in Blood under absalom did you take, Avatar
18:54:35 <Avatar> skill boon
18:55:02 <Avatar> no more of that I need a DC something roll to win a faction mission with no retries
18:55:11 <MekkisScreen> mort, stay away from that part of the boards, therein lies madness and unorigionality
18:55:44 <Avatar> UC has a lot of good monk weapons
18:56:03 <Avatar> 0 monk weapons that have reach, though
18:56:21 <MekkisScreen> heh
18:56:28 <MekkisScreen> for a druid?
18:56:37 <MekkisScreen> scythe, man!
18:57:05 <Avatar> you reckon?
18:57:12 <MekkisScreen> why not a paladin, Avatar?
18:57:25 <MekkisScreen> yeah, you use it to mow your lawn
18:57:35 <MekkisScreen> and coup de grace enemies
18:57:38 <Avatar> I like the idea of druid, I don't like the idea of paladin
18:57:59 <Avatar> the problem with any fighter type is I'd gravitate towards the mount/lance/charge thing
18:58:10 <MekkisScreen> you've forced me to play one!
18:58:44 <Avatar> I didn't force you to play anything
18:59:05 <MekkisScreen> ummm
18:59:09 <MekkisScreen> yes you did
19:00:15 <MekkisScreen> you told me to make a character that engaged things in melee, didn't use a mount, reach weapon, wasn't a druid or summoner, and stood there taking hits!
19:01:03 <MekkisScreen> then you pretty much said that you wouldn't allow any of my other characters at your table!
19:08:15 <Mort> actually I think Ill still put some of my own tweaks into it
19:08:21 <Mort> like I dont know why they dont like close range
19:08:24 <Mort> it looks awesome to me..
19:09:38 <Mort> and power attack at 3?
19:09:43 <Mort> or should I do the quickdraw shield feat..
19:09:45 * Mort is tempted..
19:09:45 <Mort> :P
19:09:49 <Mort> damn
19:09:52 <Mort> Im picking up nonsesnse :D
19:10:06 <MekkisScreen> I warned you
19:11:26 * Mort wiggles her stump
19:11:31 <Mort> ur not doing anything else to it are u?
19:13:44 <Avatar> Mekkis: I won't allow Grolschmir or Nightmare, the others are fine
19:13:47 <MekkisScreen> I'm cooking pizza
19:14:05 <Avatar> I didn't 'force' you to roll up that paladin
19:14:20 <Avatar> i was saying make a character like that for a challenge
19:14:33 <Avatar> better than choosing slow progression
19:14:54 <Avatar> did you guys know you can fight defensively
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19:15:05 <Avatar> -4 to attack, +2 to AC
19:15:48 <Avatar> there's bonuses you can get to tip that bonus/penalty
19:15:50 <Jaggedsoul> yeah
19:16:04 <Avatar> there's a weapon called a double chicken saber
19:16:08 <Avatar> I might get that just for its name
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19:19:42 <Avatar> a two-handed 1d10 19-20/x2 looks pretty sweet, not sure if I want to give up my shield though
19:21:12 <Avatar> with a quickdraw shield it's probably okay
19:22:13 <Avatar> beats the bullshit scimitar I was going to get
19:25:05 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I've told you the concept for Itzamna
19:26:18 <MekkisScreen> If I played him in QFP1 and you 'disliked' him, would you refuse him in QFP2 and 3
19:26:55 <Avatar> is that the paladin
19:27:11 <Avatar> just let me have a look over the sheet before you play
19:27:21 <Avatar> if you play 1 part, you can play all 3
19:27:28 <Avatar> even if I dislike him later
19:27:35 <Avatar> I don't want to screw you out of a boon
19:27:40 <MekkisScreen> no, the summoner - the non synthesist
19:27:49 <Avatar> is it on the site
19:27:56 <Avatar> !findchar itzamna
19:27:56 <MekkisScreen> I'd like to keep his plans secret
19:27:58 <diebot> Avatar, Character: itzamna, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
19:28:05 <MekkisScreen> not yet, no
19:28:10 <Avatar> I need to see the sheet first
19:28:13 <MekkisScreen> still working on it
19:30:08 <Avatar> the eastern weapons and armour in UC seem very well designed
19:33:34 <Avatar> should take the adopted trait on my aasimar
19:33:45 <Avatar> I could be like superman !
19:35:04 <Mort> :D
19:57:04 <Brunius> ha
19:57:32 <Brunius> !findchar Itzamna
19:57:32 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Itzamna, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
20:05:50 <Brunius> Man being able to remember this long string of numbers is great
20:12:23 <Avatar> +1 to all charisma checks during the day is a pretty sweet trait
20:13:22 <Jaggedsoul> what happens if you wear armor and you are not proficient?
20:14:42 <Ballig> you take the armour check penalty on attack rolls
20:15:25 <Ballig> and to all skill checks that involve moving
20:16:14 <Avatar> it's pretty harsh
20:16:33 <Avatar> I've considered it several times
20:17:52 <Jaggedsoul> not worth it
20:18:09 <Ballig> I've seen it used fine when the ACP was 0 anyway
20:20:03 <Avatar> on a wizard
20:20:47 <Mekkis> ah, the Twilight Mithril Chain Shirt
20:20:55 <Mekkis> along with the Mithril light shield
20:24:14 <Avatar> the monk reach weapons do shit damage
20:24:52 <Mekkis> yeah
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20:25:02 <Mekkis> because SKR hates monks
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20:25:58 <Avatar> maybe hates reach
20:27:05 <Mort> ARGGGHHHHH
20:27:10 <Mort> I just found out something
20:27:12 <Mekkis> no
20:27:15 <Mekkis> he hates monks
20:27:16 <Mort> what happens if you use arcane mark..
20:27:24 <Mort> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/arcane-mark
20:27:26 <Mort> for touching someones armor
20:27:32 <Mort> while youre at it you decide to hit him on his bum
20:27:35 <Mekkis> he thinks that wizards should be superior
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20:44:44 <Jaggedsoul> don't read guides Mort
20:44:56 <Jaggedsoul> now you're no longer making any sense
20:45:13 <tristen> would it be incredibly stupid to have a fighter with a con of 10?
20:45:33 <tristen> or even just a bit stupid?
20:45:37 <Jaggedsoul> ouch
20:46:01 <Mekkis> tristen, it wouldn't, it my opinion, be smart
20:46:03 * Jaggedsoul makes some changes to a character's sheet
20:46:12 <tristen> i'm creating the skinniest fighter the world has ever seen
20:46:16 <Mekkis> but if the fighter's concentrating on ranged attacks, it could be workable
20:46:22 <Mekkis> oh, and tristen....
20:46:29 <tristen> yep?
20:46:38 <tristen> no he's not a ranged fighter
20:46:46 <tristen> he's gonna have a great big hammer
20:47:06 <Mort> tristen..
20:47:08 <Mort> Ifked up..
20:47:10 <Mort> my magus :(
20:47:18 <Mort> I could have gotten an entangle attack per round..
20:47:20 <Mort> no saves..
20:47:23 <Mort> if I took the right trait
20:47:25 * Mort sniffs
20:47:25 <Mort> lol
20:47:28 <Mekkis> are you familiar with the !save command?
20:47:40 <tristen> what's the trait?
20:47:50 <Mekkis> Mort, I've got an "Additional Trait" boon...
20:47:53 <Mort> magical lineage
20:47:54 <Mort> urm
20:47:55 <Mort> nevermind
20:47:59 <Mort> I screwed myself up myself
20:48:01 <Mort> I dont want to urm..
20:48:05 <Mort> nevermind
20:48:09 <Mort> if I earn it thats a different story
20:48:14 <Mort> again
20:48:15 <Mekkis> yeah
20:48:18 <Mekkis> go to a con
20:48:19 <Mekkis> !
20:48:19 <Mort> I have been reading tomes of forbidden...
20:48:20 <tristen> you gotta go to a con mort
20:48:22 <Mort> magic :D
20:48:23 <tristen> win a trait
20:48:26 <Mort> so its not really fair :D
20:48:42 <tristen> singapore has cons surely?
20:48:51 <Mort> no
20:48:51 <Mort> :D
20:48:58 * Mort is the one and only lemur playing :D
20:48:59 <Mort> hehe
20:49:08 <Mort> k but anwyay I have been reading tomes of forbidden magic
20:49:11 * Mort blushes
20:49:11 <tristen> no cons :(
20:49:14 <Mort> I have gone to the dark side
20:49:17 <Mort> for COOKIES!
20:49:24 <Mort> so if I had taken magical lineage,,
20:49:31 <Mort> I would have been able to use rime spell on ray of frost
20:49:44 <Mort> which I should really get the frost version of alchemist fire on
20:49:47 <Mort> to give 1d3+1 dmg
20:49:58 <MekkisScreen> oh
20:50:00 <Mort> so that would have made my spell strike at 3 standrard attack, spellstrike..
20:50:05 <MekkisScreen> that dark side
20:50:06 <Mort> and ray of frost,
20:50:07 <Mort> yeah
20:50:09 <Mort> that dark side
20:50:13 <Mort> I went over for cookies
20:50:19 <Mort> I still dont understand why they say PA isnt a good idea
20:50:21 <Mort> and close range sux
20:50:24 <Mort> but urm.
20:50:26 <MekkisScreen> nit the dark side of "I bought a scroll of Shadow Projection"
20:50:29 <Mort> we're all entitled to our opinions
20:50:35 <Mort> I dont even knwo what shadow projection is
20:50:37 <MekkisScreen> not*
20:50:38 <Mort> I have alot to learn
20:50:42 <MekkisScreen> yeah
20:50:47 <MekkisScreen> it's the dark side
20:50:55 <Mort> I think magical lineage on ray of frost is better then shocking grasp imo
20:51:02 <Mort> shocking grasp intense spell trick only works at lv 10
20:51:05 <Mort> thats damn lategame
20:51:24 <MekkisScreen> mort, you need to get there first
20:51:49 <tristen> hey is there any other reason than con = hp and fort saves for the fighter?
20:52:05 <Mort> Id say con is for hp :D
20:52:07 <MekkisScreen> con=HP
20:52:14 <Mort> and fireballs dont care about your ac
20:52:19 <Mort> so yeah hp.
20:52:20 <MekkisScreen> that should be reason enough
20:52:30 <Mort> you know that ray of frost trick would be so cool with rimespell+ truestrike
20:52:35 <Mort> you can entangle an enemy caster
20:52:37 <tristen> k, i'll think on that, ta
20:52:42 <Mort> good luck making concentration rolls :D
20:52:51 <Mort> hes entangled.. :D
20:53:02 * Mort winces
20:53:05 <Mort> damn I really fell fast :D
20:53:07 * Mort grinz
20:55:02 <Mort> I swear..magi really swear by the shocking grasp.
20:55:20 <Mort> they spark lightning all the time
20:59:09 <Mekkis> yeah
20:59:17 <Mekkis> because it does the most damage
21:04:07 <Mort> not to mention pesky thingies like devils stil get struck by lightning
21:04:26 <Mort> somehow i think I would try play magus the more attack route..wouldnt swear by shocking grasp that much
21:04:52 <Jaggedsoul> what does greenblood oil do?
21:05:00 <Mort> probably prevent some heal check or something
21:05:37 <Mekkis> look it up
21:05:40 <Mort> d20 didnt say anyting bout it :(
21:05:43 <Mort> said its a poison
21:06:09 <Mort> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/afflictions/poison/greenblood-oil
21:06:10 <Mort> :(
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21:06:33 <Mort> I thi kits -1 cons
21:06:35 <Mort> per round for 4 rounds
21:07:06 <Avatar> stuff is so goddamn heavy
21:07:43 <Mekkis> oh
21:07:50 <Mekkis> people who played yesterday
21:07:59 <Mekkis> I had a little issue with your merrymead boons
21:08:04 <Mekkis> could you redownload them please
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21:13:57 <Avatar> I have no idea how to work out an aasimar's age or height/weight
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21:14:08 <Mort-> What was it
21:14:11 <Mort-> On cell
21:14:17 <Mort-> Will fix wireless
21:14:45 <Mekkis> Avatar, read some 3.5e or 3.0e books and use those measurements
21:16:03 <Mort-> What was it about people playing yesterday
21:16:06 <Avatar> oh shit, aasimars don't need food or water
21:16:10 <Mort-> I missed the whole thing
21:16:13 <Avatar> I can ditch that stupid waterskin weighing me down
21:16:14 <Mort-> I dced
21:16:26 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> people who played yesterday
21:16:26 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> I had a little issue with your merrymead boons
21:16:26 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> could you redownload them please
21:16:41 <tristen> hey how many combat feats does a lvl 1 fighter get (human)?
21:16:43 <tristen> is it 2?
21:16:45 <Mekkis> 3
21:16:46 <tristen> one for class
21:16:47 <Mekkis> well
21:16:54 <Mekkis> one needs to be a combat feat
21:16:54 <tristen> one for human
21:16:58 <Mekkis> the others don't
21:17:03 <Avatar> one for human, one for first level, and one bonus fighter feat
21:17:06 <tristen> and oh, one bonus
21:17:08 <tristen> yep
21:17:10 <tristen> ok
21:17:28 <tristen> can i run some stuff past you?
21:17:45 <tristen> here's the char i have in mind
21:17:58 <tristen> a really skinny human fighter
21:18:10 <tristen> wielding an EARTH MOVER (great big hammer)
21:18:17 <tristen> str: 18
21:18:19 <tristen> dex: 14
21:18:21 <tristen> con: 14
21:18:24 <tristen> wis: 10
21:18:26 <Mekkis> tristen, could you consider using !save a little more when for Leis: it seems that you were struggling with attack and damage rolls
21:18:33 <tristen> int: 7
21:18:51 <tristen> yeah i was getting confused by what i could and couldn't do in sneak/flank
21:18:58 <tristen> sorry...i'll get a grip on it
21:19:15 <Mort-> Ah thanks
21:19:19 <tristen> and cha 8
21:19:22 <tristen> XD
21:19:26 <Mekkis> it's not too much of a problem, but I felt that you were struggling
21:19:28 <Avatar> looks solid
21:19:36 <tristen> yeah i was struggling
21:19:42 <Mekkis> looks like you're 6 points short
21:19:53 <tristen> 6?
21:20:01 <Mekkis> assuming your +2 for being human's going into str
21:20:11 <Avatar> yeah 6 points short
21:20:13 <Mort-> I am on cell rebooting my comp
21:20:16 <tristen> oh yeah! i just counted the cost of 18
21:20:17 <tristen> right
21:20:22 <Mort-> Lol
21:20:25 <Mekkis> so you've got str 16 (10 points) dex 14 (5 points) con 14 (5 points)
21:20:27 <tristen> one sec i'll throw some more numbers around...
21:20:30 <Avatar> Mekkis: what book am I looking at
21:20:33 <Avatar> not the monster manual
21:20:40 <Mekkis> you could push everything to 10 10 10 for mental stats
21:20:53 <tristen> yeah that was what i was originally doing...
21:20:54 <Mort-> Actually yes
21:20:57 <Mekkis> Aasimar and Tiefling - a Guide to Half-breeds
21:21:07 <Avatar> man I don't have that
21:22:54 <Jaggedsoul> tristen, do you mean an earth breaker?
21:23:09 <Jaggedsoul> or is earth mover a diff weapon?
21:24:33 <tristen> yeah an earth breaker...
21:24:38 <Mekkis> Avatar, Races of Faerûn p112 describes Aasimars
21:24:52 <Avatar> !throw 2d10; 2d4
21:24:53 <diebot> Avatar, 2d10: [2d10=9,8] 17; 2d4: [2d4=2,3] 5
21:24:53 <tristen> gawd i could crank dex or con up to 16...
21:25:09 <Mekkis> gives you good skin colours and hair and eye colours
21:25:09 <Mort-> Dex :d
21:25:16 <Mekkis> and some interesting stuff about them
21:25:24 <tristen> yeah i like your thinking mort
21:25:29 <Mort-> Can they fly?
21:25:49 <Mekkis> Mort-, anything can fly if you throw enough levels of Synthesist at it
21:25:55 <Mort-> I keep creating glass cannons
21:26:04 <Mekkis> no you don't
21:26:10 <Mort-> No assimars as a race
21:26:15 <Mekkis> nope
21:26:28 <Avatar> anything can do anything if you throw enough levels of synthesist at it
21:26:36 <Jaggedsoul> cya guys
21:26:38 <Mort-> Heh i keep thinking they have wings
21:26:38 <Mekkis> heh
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21:27:01 <Mekkis> Mort-, the one in MoTB wasn't an Aasimar, she was a half-celestial
21:27:03 <Avatar> Mekkis: do you have races of destiny hosted?
21:27:10 <Mekkis> ummm...
21:27:13 <Mekkis> maybe
21:27:27 <Avatar> if you don't, don't worry about it
21:27:28 <Mekkis> I just set up a script to leech from some website, once
21:27:55 <Mekkis> oh
21:27:56 <Mekkis> I do
21:27:58 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/~mekkis/D&D%203.5%20-%20Races%20of%20Destiny%20%5bOEF%5d.pdf
21:28:15 <Mort-> Sigh
21:28:22 <Mort-> Ill get online
21:28:31 <Mort-> Ah ok
21:28:38 <Mort-> I mix up kaelyn
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21:29:18 <Avatar> cheers
21:31:05 <Mekkis> ooh
21:31:07 <Mekkis> I forgot:
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Andoran 52
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Cheliax 33
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Grand Lodge 33
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Lantern Lodge 3
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Osirion 19
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Sczarni 4
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Shadow Lodge 1
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Silver Crusade 4
21:31:14 <Mekkis> Total for Taldor 37
21:32:29 <Mekkis> No Qadirans have completed faction missions!
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21:35:33 <Avatar> I considered going qadiran
21:35:37 <Avatar> but why would I?
21:36:48 <Mekkis> I couldn't answer that question either
21:37:16 <Avatar> if there were some serious money making vanities, maybe
21:39:09 <Mekkis> the "I think I'm good enough to uptier every scenario" vanity!
21:40:06 <Mekkis> costs 24 PA
21:45:07 <Mekkis> (each time you die)
21:47:02 <Mekkis> what are some good feats for an elf conjurer?
21:48:44 <Avatar> spell focus (conjuration)
21:49:02 <Mekkis> sorry
21:49:04 <Mekkis> traits
21:49:17 <Mekkis> that have to be from the CTWE
21:58:41 <Mekkis> help me come up with a bio for this character, Avatar
21:58:46 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=5
21:59:50 <tristen> hey mekkis can you set me up an new character on ballig.net?
21:59:54 <Mekkis> no
22:00:00 <Mekkis> I can't
22:00:02 <Mekkis> Avatar can
22:00:08 <tristen> cool avatar?
22:00:13 <Mekkis> tristen, can you help me with a backstory for that character?
22:00:23 <tristen> yeah lemme see...
22:00:51 <Mekkis> I've been playing around with that profiler
22:01:06 <tristen> wow
22:01:18 <Mekkis> what's wow?
22:01:23 <tristen> the profiler
22:01:37 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/
22:01:45 <Mekkis> if you want to create an account and a character
22:01:49 <tristen> does it calculate and stuff?
22:01:53 <Mekkis> mostly
22:01:58 <Mekkis> it's missing a bit of stuff
22:02:09 <Mekkis> mainly because my javascript/php is really weak
22:02:34 <Mekkis> it's a slight modification to RPGWebProfiler
22:02:39 <tristen> it's no longer javascript dude - it's jquery!
22:02:41 <tristen> heheh
22:02:51 <tristen> man jquery kicks arse
22:03:11 <Mekkis> web programming isn't my forte
22:03:18 <Mekkis> give me an embedded device any day
22:03:29 <tristen> heheh yep i hear you
22:03:51 <tristen> what sort of stuff you work on?
22:04:00 <Mekkis> at the moment?
22:04:02 <Mekkis> not much
22:04:15 <tristen> when you're working on embedded devices
22:04:25 <Mekkis> playing around with a few TI microcontrollers, but nothing really: I'm in IT at the moment, working on POS systems
22:04:39 <tristen> ah k
22:04:56 <tristen> what language you working in for pos stuff?
22:05:00 <tristen> gui? or char-cell?
22:05:23 <Mekkis> no. VB :S
22:05:32 <tristen> really?
22:05:37 <Mekkis> yeah :(
22:05:46 <tristen> man, the pain, THE PAIN
22:05:50 <tristen> but a jobs a job
22:06:19 <tristen> so you're doing functional stuff?
22:06:25 <tristen> like business logic and stuff?
22:06:37 <Mekkis> yeah...
22:06:37 <tristen> create this payment here
22:06:43 <Mekkis> it's all OO at least
22:06:44 <tristen> post that entry there
22:07:18 <tristen> yeah seriously the language at work is almost besides the point when you're doing business logic...
22:07:31 <tristen> if that makes sense
22:07:34 <Mekkis> but it doesn't really feel like programming
22:07:42 <Mekkis> it feels like wiring boxes together
22:07:46 <tristen> nah but it pays the bills
22:08:20 <Mekkis> yeah
22:10:03 <tristen> my new skinny fighter is "Yagh" (read: yarg)
22:10:09 <tristen> 6 foot 2
22:10:11 <tristen> skinny as
22:10:15 <tristen> bald head
22:10:30 <tristen> bushy white eyebrows and handlebar moustache
22:10:32 <tristen> lol
22:10:39 <tristen> with that HAMMER
22:10:55 <tristen> i settled on str: 18, dex: 16 con: 14
22:11:00 <tristen> wis: 10
22:11:03 <tristen> cha: 9
22:11:06 <tristen> int: 7!
22:13:01 <tristen> i'm thinking power attack, cleave and dodge...maybe
22:21:50 <Mekkis> tristen, the unique thing about that profiler is:
22:22:04 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/extraction.txt
22:24:11 <Mekkis> FYI: if you want to take it and improve it, you're welcome
22:24:36 <tristen> bloody nice that!
22:24:53 <Mekkis> (as long as I can get read-only sql access to the characters table)
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