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19:31 <Avatar> you should revise it to not be there
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04:58 <Tashes> Avatar: Faction Nazi
05:02 <Tashes> i can see you having your own comic
19:16 <Avatar> I am not a comic book character !
24:28 <Tashes> I think you could be.
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39:12 <Namagem> Interesting
49:28 <Namagem> Mojang, the company who made minecraft is doing a project this weekend
49:35 <Namagem> In which they take two polls
49:47 <Namagem> One for theme, and one for game style
50:02 <Namagem> And take the highest and lowest contenders for each
50:07 <tristen> heheh just add money
50:08 <Namagem> And smash them together
50:16 <Namagem> Actually,it's all going to charity
50:22 <Namagem> All of it
50:25 <tristen> no i mean to make it happen
50:53 <Namagem> Right now, it's a Steampunk/Ancient Egypt RTS/Beatemup
51:00 <Namagem> http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/15/humble-bundle-mojam/
52:33 <tristen> heheh i voted dungeon crawler / fantasy
59:55 <Hydrazine> yo.
03:37 <tristen> heya hydrazine
03:43 <tristen> man i've been busy
03:56 <tristen> wanna see some cool shit?
04:59 <tristen> http://www.journeyo.com/public/game/bofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
06:33 <tristen> i've got it now so it switches maps
06:41 <tristen> the gm can set everything up in advance...
06:51 <tristen> the players just lob onto the single page
07:00 <tristen> and never have to reload/refresh or anything like that
07:47 <tristen> still got a bit of work to do
07:56 <tristen> but it's getting there...
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18:53 <Namagem> That's actually really cool
26:42 <tristen> cheers!
27:00 <tristen> i've spent the last couple of weeks getting it to that stage...
28:35 <tristen> actually soon i could do with some playtesting if you're interested?
33:12 <MekkisScreen> tristen: what are you running?
36:34 <tristen> i probably need to run something to test this bloody webpage
36:59 <tristen> it's scary good
37:12 <tristen> the dm doesn't see the out-of-character chat window at all XD
37:30 <tristen> so the players can blahblah away to their hearts content without spamming the dm
38:06 <tristen> have you see it mekkis?
38:10 <tristen> the latest?
38:21 <tristen> seen*
42:13 <MekkisScreen> yes
42:19 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20
42:19 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20: [1d20=5] 5
43:51 <tristen> i'm like a code monkey on crack atm
43:54 <diebot> this is being sent from sendtoIRC.sh testing interprocess communication
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02:40 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20
02:41 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20: [1d20=11] 11
10:07 <Namagem> Can someone link the PF big pdf of pregens?
10:47 <diebot> this is a test of a socket-based IRC relay
21:25 <tristen> yeah one sec
21:59 <tristen> http://www.pathfinderdb.com/character-sheets/48-fan-created-sheets/145-pathfinder-society-pregens-for-the-pathfinder-rpg
24:48 <diebot> another test....
25:07 <diebot> What about if I put possible 'unsupported quotes" in it`
25:46 <MekkisScreen> tristen: what IP is your server running on?
26:18 <tristen> 203.214.66.249
26:28 <tristen> no ipv6 atm for the site though...
26:37 <tristen> never got round, er, tuit
27:22 <tristen> actually i'd actually be happy if you brought my web server down
27:29 <tristen> it's not that hardened
28:05 <tristen> it's pretty stable though i think i've hammered it with all sorts of stuff
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35:46 <Hydrazine> wheres the other brian?
38:09 <tristen> he's an imposter
38:31 <Hydrazine> having a look now.
38:34 <Hydrazine> show me the map change?
39:24 <Hydrazine> cooool
04:32 <diebot> test
10:57 <tristen> hey mekkis i saw the bad request!
11:01 <tristen> if you did it
11:16 <tristen> feel free to do that a million times :)
11:19 <tristen> i want it to break
27:54 <diebot> test
34:01 <MekkisScreen> ;5~;5~I didn't do any request
34:19 <Avatar> I tried using it on my phone the other day and it broke
34:20 <MekkisScreen> tristen: how are you handling the chat?
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37:29 <tristen> mekkis: just through ajax
37:53 <tristen> or do you mean the presentation of the chat?
39:31 <tristen> which phone avatar?
39:39 <tristen> http://www.journeyo.com/public/game/bofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
39:45 <tristen> maybe just go there?
39:59 <tristen> i think those old links are broken now
40:11 <MekkisScreen> what I mean is the backend
40:20 <tristen> but i've been working on it continuously so you might have just caught it at a bad time
40:32 <tristen> c++ and postgresql
40:47 <tristen> my own engine
40:52 <MekkisScreen> could you get it to dump each chat line to a tcp port?
41:02 <tristen> yep!
41:17 <MekkisScreen> specifically nl.ti4200.info:2000
41:22 <tristen> ok 
41:29 <tristen> gimme a sec
41:37 <tristen> do you want me to open/send/close?
41:48 <tristen> or maintain an open connection?
42:24 <Avatar> ok I have 94 gig to download by midnight tonight !!
42:27 <Avatar> what should I download ?
43:01 <tristen> the internet!
43:20 <Avatar> you can do that ??
43:26 <tristen> XD
43:38 <Hydrazine> if you google search for google, you can break the internet.
43:51 <tristen> woah man that's deep!
44:22 <Hydrazine> 94 gigs of pron?
44:28 <Hydrazine> you can make a song about it.
44:44 <Hydrazine> 94 gigs left of pron to download, 94 gigs of pron..
44:52 <tristen> LOL
45:11 <Hydrazine> get some down, fap like a hound, 93 gigs or pron..
47:59 <tristen> actually mekkis how about i send it to that address as a http packet?
48:09 <tristen> or a get request
48:34 <tristen> i'd like to just allow the dm to specify where to send chats
48:44 <tristen> ie:
48:58 <MekkisScreen> ummm
49:03 <tristen> http://nl.ti4200.info:2000?text=blahblah&from=brian
49:10 <MekkisScreen> no...
49:22 <tristen> well maybe not THAT address
49:25 <MekkisScreen> that would not be good
49:32 <tristen> but do you have a php page that can receive them?
49:41 <MekkisScreen> no
49:58 <MekkisScreen> I have a socket that can receive them from your server
50:05 <MekkisScreen> not from the client
50:25 <tristen> yeah i'll make the request from the server
50:28 <tristen> (not the client)
50:30 <MekkisScreen> and not as http!
50:34 <tristen> lolol
50:35 <tristen> ok
50:44 <tristen> gimme a bit...
50:58 <MekkisScreen> plain text
52:20 <tristen> yeah just newline terminated yeah?
52:45 <MekkisScreen> yeah
53:07 <MekkisScreen> probably \r\n
53:25 <MekkisScreen> no fancy stuff like telnet
53:30 <MekkisScreen> just raw text
54:37 <MekkisScreen> don,t spam that port :/
54:59 <tristen> no i'll just send one manually to begin with...
55:04 <diebot> hello mekkis, just a test
55:06 <tristen> heheh
55:20 <tristen> ok do you want me to tie it to the chat thingie?
56:31 <MekkisScreen> perhaps
56:35 <tristen> actually i'll send three in a row
56:36 <tristen> one sec
56:39 <MekkisScreen> probably
57:00 <diebot> one
57:01 <diebot> two
57:01 <diebot> three
57:11 <tristen> seems legit
00:44 <diebot> test
00:50 <tristen> ok
01:00 <diebot> one two three
01:40 <diebot> [url=http://www.google.com]google[/url]
01:50 <tristen> heheh
02:03 <tristen> well there you go - it needs more formatting, but yeah it'll work
06:11 <MekkisScreen> and the bold stuff
07:06 <MekkisScreen> sed s/\[\/?b\]/\001/g or something
07:16 <diebot> [b]bold[/b]
07:28 <diebot> [i]italic[/i]
07:32 <MekkisScreen> (you send \001 rather than [b])
07:37 <diebot> [u]underline[/u]
07:40 <MekkisScreen> and IRC doesn't understand italics
07:45 <MekkisScreen> or underlining
07:52 <diebot> [url]http://www.google.com[/url]
07:58 <diebot> [url=http://www.google.com]google[/url]
07:58 <MekkisScreen> or URLs
09:43 <MekkisScreen> "We live in a world that has rules, and those rules have to be guarded by men with dice. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for comments on your chronicle sheet, and you curse the society. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That flying mount's legality, while tragic, probably saved characters. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you
10:21 <tristen> don't stop there! that's gold!
10:30 <MekkisScreen> sorry
10:36 <MekkisScreen> irssi doesn't split it up
10:53 <tristen> rant of the century that!
11:10 <MekkisScreen> "We live in a world that has rules, and those rules have to be guarded by men with dice. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for comments on your chronicle sheet, and you curse the society. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know.
11:15 <MekkisScreen> "That flying mount's legality, while tragic, probably saved characters. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves characters. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in this role, you need me in this role. 
11:20 <MekkisScreen> "We use words like explore, report, cooperate. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very rules that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide them.
11:25 <MekkisScreen> "I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up some dice, and play. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
15:24 <Hydrazine> Whats all this from?
15:25 <tristen> a few good men...
15:37 <tristen> well lifted from a few good men
15:49 <Hydrazine> ah.
16:42 <Avatar> "let me do what I want, however tragic, thank me for it, and piss off"
19:59 <tristen> hehe
26:02 <MekkisScreen> I still think the BOFH verseion of that is better
29:33 <MekkisScreen> 15 lines:
29:51 <MekkisScreen> objections?
30:55 <MekkisScreen> Bastard: "You want answers?"
30:56 <MekkisScreen> Boss: "I think I'm entitled to them!"
30:56 <MekkisScreen> Bastard: "YOU WANT ANSWERS?"
30:56 <MekkisScreen> Boss: "I want the truth!"
30:56 <MekkisScreen> Bastard: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
30:58 <MekkisScreen> Son, processes live on a system that has finite resource. Resources guarded by people with System Admin experience! Who's going to look after that system? You? The support guy who drools so much he has a drip tray?
31:02 <MekkisScreen> I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.
31:04 <MekkisScreen> You weep for lost sessions and curse system admins - you have that luxury! You have the luxury of not knowing what I know - that session killing, while tragic, saves resource - And my existence, while incomprehensible and expensive to you - saves resource!"
31:08 <MekkisScreen> You don't want the truth because deep down, in places you don't like to talk about at user group meetings, WANT me on the system - you NEED me on the system!"
31:11 <MekkisScreen> We use words like "I/O wait", "Pagefaults", and "CPUtime", as a backbone of a life spent sorting out user-caused problems. You use them as a cop-out for downtime at Management meetings.
31:15 <MekkisScreen> I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who connects and disconnects under the very blanket of the very performance I provide, then QUESTIONS the manner in which I provide it. I'd rather you left a nice message with helldesk.
31:19 <MekkisScreen> Or read a linux admin manual and checked out the performance monitors. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you are entitled to!"
31:22 <MekkisScreen> Boss: "Did you kill -9 the Database Server?"
31:25 <MekkisScreen> Bastard: "I did my job - I kept the system running!"
31:27 <MekkisScreen> Boss: "Did you kill -9 the Database Server?!"
31:30 <MekkisScreen> Bastard: "YOU'RE GODDAM RIGHT I DID!"
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35:44 <tristen> that's pretty funny
36:06 <tristen> i've gotten so used to kill -9 i just do it out of habit
36:54 <MekkisScreen> that's horrible!
37:09 <MekkisScreen> you should use -2 and -15 (and -14) before you use -9
37:37 <MekkisScreen> (FYI, every time you send something to diebot, there's a kill -SIGUSR1 that gets sent to diebot...)
38:45 <diebot> one
38:46 <diebot> two
38:46 <diebot> three
38:50 <tristen> that time?
51:43 <Avatar> https://plus.google.com/photos/107982618909749811163/albums/5709463957214126609/5709463958681668498
53:40 <MekkisScreen> each time
53:55 <MekkisScreen> diebot reads from a named pipe when it receives SIGUSR1
54:05 <MekkisScreen> how do I access the chronicle sheet generator>?
55:22 <Avatar> told you last night
55:43 <Avatar> or the other day you asked about it
56:13 <MekkisScreen> ah
56:14 <MekkisScreen> PM
56:18 <MekkisScreen> I keep forgetting to check them
57:08 <MekkisScreen> I'm trying to work out Itzamna's total worth
58:11 <tristen> mekkis it's probably happening because i'm shutting the connection down each time i send
58:17 <tristen> it won't always be like that
58:28 <tristen> but for the moment it will
58:54 <MekkisScreen> it always will
58:57 <MekkisScreen> and that's by design
59:05 <tristen> well i mean to say
59:13 <tristen> i'll try and keep the connection open
03:55 <MekkisScreen> how much gold does Song of the Sea Witch give you at tier 3-4?
05:29 <tristen> was that the "wuss" tier we uptiered from?
05:35 <Avatar> 1315
05:45 <Avatar> oh yeah we uptiered
05:48 <Avatar> 3382
05:58 <Avatar> pretty sexy gold
06:01 <tristen> (sings) sweet loot
07:21 <MekkisScreen> no
07:31 <MekkisScreen> I was working out how much gold Itzamna had
07:39 <MekkisScreen> 4393
07:49 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: when are you planning on running QFP?
08:08 <Avatar> week after next if you're doing BTD 2 next week
08:13 <MekkisScreen> ok
08:19 <MekkisScreen> so Itzamna should be level 4 by then
08:20 <Avatar> unless tristen or someone else wants to DM
08:23 <MekkisScreen> will that be a problem
08:35 <Avatar> why would that be a problem
08:44 <MekkisScreen> the tier
08:55 <Avatar> I don't know, depends who is coming
09:01 <Avatar> I'm not pre-planning the tier
09:28 <Avatar> isnt' Itzamna brand new
09:40 <Avatar> are you playing 9 games between now and then
10:31 <MekkisScreen> no
10:36 <MekkisScreen> GM credit
10:59 <Avatar> you're meant to use that as soon as possible when you get it, aren't you
11:31 <MekkisScreen> not really
11:38 <MekkisScreen> you can keep them lying around
11:58 <MekkisScreen> mysql keeps crashing
12:18 <Avatar> A  GM  who  runs  a  module  may  likewise  apply  the 
12:18 <Avatar> Chronicle sheet to one of her Pathfinder Society characters. 
12:19 <Avatar> The GM must decide which of her characters will receive 
12:19 <Avatar> the  Chronicle  sheet  at  the  time  when  the  module  is 
12:19 <Avatar> completed and the Chronicle sheets are filled out
13:19 <MekkisScreen> yeah
13:24 <Avatar> sounds like you will be playing at level 1
13:28 <MekkisScreen> well, I dump them all onto 10339-6
13:37 <MekkisScreen> even if I don't get around to writing up the sheet
13:46 <Avatar> what is 10339-6
13:48 <MekkisScreen> unless it's first steps credit
13:54 <MekkisScreen> in which case it's 10339-8
14:14 <MekkisScreen> my nextt character
14:17 <MekkisScreen> obviously
14:26 <Avatar> what
14:47 <MekkisScreen> his faction's been declared
14:54 <MekkisScreen> nothing else is required
15:18 <Avatar> oh, he doesn't have a name
15:32 <MekkisScreen> I'll change it when I get put into that position, yeah
15:47 <Avatar> do you mean -8 doesn't have a name, or -6
15:52 <MekkisScreen> neither
16:00 <MekkisScreen> 10339-7 does
16:18 <MekkisScreen> 10339-8 is a gnome
16:49 <MekkisScreen> as is 10339-6
20:46 <Avatar> you'd better send me that char sheet well before the game starts
21:33 <Hydrazine> hmmm.
21:40 <Hydrazine> saturday 7pm?
22:08 <Avatar> one at 11am, one at 7pm
22:13 <Avatar> another on sunday 11am
22:21 <Hydrazine> trying to convert and figure out when the hell that is my time
22:46 <Hydrazine> saturday morning i think
22:46 <Avatar> it should be on the site in your timezone
22:56 <Avatar> click schedule
24:00 <Hydrazine> well, i think i could make atleast one of those.
24:30 <Avatar> did you get invites in your email
24:38 <tristen> hey mekkis what would happen if i spammed that address with a wall of text?
25:36 <tristen> ie: do i need to consider how to bust up the text?
25:43 <tristen> or can i just spam it?
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29:42 <Mort-> Look what the cat brought in :d
29:53 <Hydrazine> oh balls.
30:08 * Mort- mews
30:09 <Mort-> Lol
30:30 <Hydrazine> shit its Mort. Hide the fun.
30:38 <Hydrazine> Go back to being boring.
31:28 <Mort-> Haha :d
31:42 <Mort-> I been running through my magus calculations :d
31:48 <Mort-> Probably can't make it on Sunday
31:59 <Mort-> Got a dress to shop for maybe
32:05 <Mort-> Or an air show to go to
32:07 <Hydrazine> goin on a date?
32:37 <Mort-> I'm my cousins bridesmaid
32:52 <Mort-> Got to get a cute pink dress for the occasion
32:59 <Hydrazine> cool.
33:04 <MekkisScreen> tristen: 1 line in, 1 line out
33:34 <tristen> i can make one helluva line mekkis
33:34 <Mort-> My dad wants me to come along with him to the air show
33:38 <tristen> what will irc do with it?
33:54 <Mort-> So ill probably be out on Sunday
34:10 <MekkisScreen> if you send one line to that address, it will put one line to IRC
34:20 <MekkisScreen> \if you send two lines, it will put two lines on IRC
34:23 <MekkisScreen> \simple
34:26 <tristen> yeah and if that line is one helluva long line?
34:40 <MekkisScreen> it'll truncate to approx 350 characteres
34:47 <tristen> there we go
34:48 <Mort-> Hydrazine
34:50 <MekkisScreen> (or the IRC server will)
34:54 <tristen> yes
35:00 <Mort-> Create another channel ill join you there
35:12 <Mort-> Can't be fked to register nick
35:16 <Mort-> I'mon cell
35:47 <Mort-> I can't msg you because nick is not registered
36:03 <tristen> mekkis i don't limit the size of the chat on the site
36:06 <Mort-> Hydrazine
36:11 <Mort-> I created a new channel
36:15 <Mort-> Testone
36:19 <Hydrazine> buh
36:20 <tristen> at least not for any practical purposes
36:20 <Mort-> We can talk thereJmj
36:22 <Mort-> Lol
37:02 <MekkisScreen> yeah
38:11 <MekkisScreen> but how often to people actually send something of that size?
40:34 <tristen> whenever the dm has to post a wall of text?
40:38 <tristen> fairly often
40:48 <tristen> actually very often
41:07 <MekkisScreen> yes
41:13 <MekkisScreen> but it's several lines
41:15 <MekkisScreen> isn't it?
41:34 <tristen> dunno, but if it's all on one line i'm not fussed
41:39 <tristen> it'll just wrap in html
41:51 <tristen> but i can make sure i put a cr every so many characters
41:54 <tristen> easy
42:03 <tristen> crlf*
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04:44 <MekkisScreen> I probably should change it to look at PID files rather than just issuing a killall
04:45 <MekkisScreen> :S
48:16 <Avatar> interview went OK
48:23 <Avatar> 32 applicants for the same position, though :|
50:35 <Mort-> Good luck
50:39 <Mort-> What was it for
50:44 <Mort-> The job i mean
50:56 <Avatar> quality assurance
51:23 <Mort-> For what
51:29 <Mort-> Is it a permanent job?
51:33 <Avatar> an insurance company
51:35 <Avatar> yeah, permanent
52:01 <Mort-> Cool
52:04 <Mort-> Sounds good
52:13 <Mort-> Insurance companies are rich :d
52:18 <Mort-> Mine is contract
57:40 <Avatar> it's a top notch position
58:08 <Mort-> Cool :d
58:14 <Mort-> Be nice and charming :d
58:27 <Avatar> but I am not nice and charming
58:34 * Mort- uses bit of luck on avatar
58:36 <Avatar> I am mean and grumpy
58:36 <Mort-> :d
58:39 <Mort-> Lol
00:30 <MekkisScreen> you're supposed to be
00:37 <MekkisScreen> at an insurance company!
01:06 <Avatar> apparently not, at this one
01:06 <Mort-> Not if you doing front line sales
01:11 <Mort-> I can be pretty sweet
01:16 <Mort-> If i want to be
01:24 <Mort-> :d
02:04 <MekkisScreen> you're in QA right?
02:26 <Avatar> yeah they still don't want you to be a dickhead
02:28 <Mort-> He still has to talk to people :o
02:38 <MekkisScreen> so you need to tell the developers, "Terribly sorry, but it seems that there's a MASSIVE BUG in your software that will cause us to lose MILLIONS of DOLLARS per DAY!"
02:46 <MekkisScreen> :)
02:57 <Mort-> What you working as mek
02:59 <Avatar> you gotta be diplomatic
03:00 <Mort-> In rl
03:08 <MekkisScreen> one of those developers
03:18 <MekkisScreen> without a decent QA department
03:19 <Mort-> Sounds like avatar needs some cha
03:24 <Mort-> Or diplomacy
03:51 <Avatar> my diplomacy is fantastic
03:55 <Avatar> it might have saved me
04:35 <Mort-> Cool
09:50 <tristen> hey avatar i'd be interested to see how this behaves in your phone: http://www.journeyo.com/public/game/bofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
09:54 <tristen> or you mort
10:03 <Avatar> you need a QR code
10:37 <Mort-> I see site
10:37 <Avatar> http://qrcode.kaywa.com/img.php?s=8&d=http%3A%2F%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.journeyo.com%2Fpublic%2Fgame%2Fbofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
10:59 <Mort-> Can't do anything on site
11:03 <tristen> mort do you see the map change?
11:20 <tristen> should be swamp now?
11:31 <Mort-> I see bar
11:33 <Mort-> Still
11:37 <tristen> no mort you can't do anything on that page except view
11:48 <Mort-> Oh now i see swamp
11:51 <tristen> excellent!
11:52 <Mort-> alligator!
11:55 <tristen> hahah
12:00 <Avatar> http://qrcode.kaywa.com/img.php?s=8&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.journeyo.com%2Fpublic%2Fgame%2Fbofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
12:02 <tristen> now back to bar?
12:02 * Mort- hides
12:03 <Avatar> that one is better
12:09 <tristen> excellent
12:14 <Mort-> They like lemurs too much :(
12:30 <tristen> and pathfinders
12:45 <Mort-> Bar!
12:56 <Mort-> Actually i think that game
13:03 <tristen> so you think it's important for the gm to see out-of-character chat?
13:12 <tristen> do*
13:13 <Avatar> tristen: can't type in either chat
13:16 <Mort-> You guys could have kited the c
13:18 <Mort-> Around
13:20 <Avatar> takes a few seconds to load the entire chat history
13:24 <Mort-> And killed in by range
13:29 <tristen> no you can only type in chat if you're logged in AND you're one of the players
13:41 <Mort-> As long as you guys played it smart
13:54 <Avatar> forget that
13:57 <Avatar> just put ban options in
14:03 <tristen> avatar yeah a chat is only as long as a game
14:12 <Avatar> yeah but this chat is already huge
14:20 <tristen> yeah i've been spamming it :)
14:28 <Avatar> does it look like 4 hours worth of chat
14:31 <tristen> but when a new game starts it will always be empty
14:44 <tristen> well you don't have to worry about it when you're playing
14:50 <Avatar> trying to scroll to the bottom of that and back up every time you need to look at the map will be a problem
14:54 <tristen> because it only downloads the last chat as it happens
14:57 * Mort- bounces
15:15 <tristen> woah - hang on the chat should only be little
15:20 <tristen> and with a scroll-bar 
15:36 <Avatar> no, it's huge
15:38 <tristen> heheh
15:45 <Avatar> there is a scroll bar but I don't think that works
15:46 <tristen> what browser?
15:53 <tristen> is it opera mini?
15:59 <tristen> or opera mobile?
16:02 <Avatar> opera mobile
16:10 <tristen> wow ok that's a problemo
16:20 <tristen> how about for you mort?
16:24 <tristen> same?
16:38 <Mort-> I use opera mobile
16:45 <tristen> and the chat thing on that page?
16:48 <tristen> is it huge?
16:56 <Mort-> I am not actively testing
17:04 <tristen> never mind...
17:14 <Mort-> Don't see biat
17:16 <Mort-> Chat
17:20 <Mort-> It empty
17:33 <tristen> where it says "in character"
17:34 <tristen> ?
17:37 <tristen> that's empty?
18:12 <Avatar> took a while to load for me
18:15 <Avatar> it looked empty
18:31 <MekkisScreen> we can get the chat streamed to IRC :)
18:59 <Mort-> Its empty pull for me
19:02 <Mort-> Still
19:19 <tristen> hit refresh mort?
20:22 <Mort-> I see it now
20:33 <tristen> is it going WAY down the page?
20:40 <tristen> or do you get the chat in a scrollable box?
21:37 <tristen> ie: can you see the chat from hydra and the gm?
48:32 <Avatar> :o)
55:38 <Thelen> :D
03:49 <tristen> avatar yeah i can see that fucking opera problemo...
03:56 <tristen> damn it all
04:02 <tristen> there's always one
04:19 <tristen> (i mean troublesome browser)
06:31 <Avatar> don't knock opera
06:37 <Avatar> opera ftw
07:55 <Avatar> trying it on the default android browser
08:07 <Avatar> doesn't seem to be loading
08:09 <Avatar> is it still up
08:53 <Avatar> yeah not loading at all, wifi
09:28 <Avatar> oops there she goes
09:49 <MekkisScreen> let's see if I get it in my version of oper
09:57 <Avatar> decent sizing on the chat boxes now, but I can't scroll
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18:24 <MekkisScreen> what's the URL?
20:04 <tristen> http://www.journeyo.com/public/game/bofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
20:13 <tristen> it's broke in opera
20:19 <tristen> i'm using an emulator thingie
20:25 <tristen> and it's stuffed for the moment
21:30 <tristen> i'll see if there's some hack or something for it...
25:46 <tristen> yeah i can keep the height at 200px on opera 
25:51 <tristen> but no bloody scrolling...
25:53 <tristen> gah
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00:12 <Ballig> Brunius: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ppwzq/iama_former_games_workshop_employee_ama/
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44:47 <Brunius> Meh
44:52 <Brunius> Seen the like before
45:18 <Ballig> when
45:27 <Brunius> Dakkadakka
46:05 <Ballig> that's not when
46:48 <Brunius> I dunno
46:56 <Brunius> 6mths-1 year ago?
47:04 <Ballig> where's the link
47:31 <Brunius> I don't see any proof that he's a former GW employee, either.
47:43 <Brunius> All this is standard economics stuff
48:55 <Ballig> what proof did the other guy provide?
48:57 <Mekkis> ummm
49:08 <Mekkis> when I said 7pm, I meant 7pm my time
49:12 <Brunius> Approx none
58:26 <Brunius> Oh, I might not be able to DM on saturday
59:06 <Mekkis> what's happening?
59:56 <Brunius> VCE is handing out more homework than I expected
00:18 <Ballig> tell him that you can't do the homework because you are running a game of pathfinder society
00:20 <Ballig> then ask him if he wants to play
00:49 <Brunius> That might actually work on my physics teacher
01:00 <Brunius> and might have worked last year on my english teacher
01:53 <Ballig> that's the hot female english teacher, right
03:44 <Brunius> Are you an accountant from canberra, Ballig.
04:16 <Ballig> yes
04:17 <Ballig> yes I am
06:34 <Ballig> Mekkis: I changed the time for you, but be specific next time :p
09:13 <Mekkis> I said my time
09:49 <Ballig> well no, you said AEST
09:53 <Ballig> you know that is confusing for Avatar
10:04 <Mekkis> ah
10:10 <Mekkis> I'll be more specific next time
10:14 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Ballig
10:15 <Mekkis> sorry for the confusion
10:21 Ballig has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 11am (Brunius, new game) / Sat 8pm (Mekkis, new game) | Sun 11am (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
10:25 * Ballig removes channel operator status from Ballig
10:34 <Mekkis> what will you be running, Ballig?
10:43 <Ballig> assault on the kingdom of the impossible
10:54 <Mekkis> ah
11:02 <Mekkis> Isle of Jalmaray
11:57 <Mekkis> with people who speak Varisian
12:46 <Mekkis> wow, this Virgin Blue thing might give me a free flight home after conquest
13:02 <Brunius> you free flight claimer
13:39 <Mekkis> Brunius, should I offer to DM something at Conquest, so I won't get forced into DMing something at Conquest?
13:48 <Brunius> Maybe.
14:14 <Mekkis> what do you want me to DM in person?
14:17 <Mekkis> BTD2?
14:19 <Mekkis> :)
14:45 <Brunius> Ye gads
17:11 <Ballig> darkest vengeance
17:28 <Mekkis> no way
17:42 <Mekkis> unless someone runs midnight mauler really well
17:55 <Mekkis> (iirc, Darkwhite mused about running it in here)
21:00 <Mekkis> I'm tossing up between Aquatic and Quadrupod
21:44 <Brunius> Take aquatic
23:32 <Ballig> name the summoner Aquaman
25:50 <Mekkis> I noticed that the eidolon in Before The Dawn 1 has a +16 to perception!
25:53 <Mekkis> and Sense Motive
26:06 <Ballig> it's very perceptive
27:49 <Mekkis> I think I'll try aquatic and change into a Quadruped next level
30:03 <Mekkis> see how much not having pounce hurts
30:17 <Mekkis> stupid "only Quadruped base forms can pounce" BS
32:42 <Mekkis> hmmm
32:48 <Mekkis> Reach or Improved Natural Attack?
33:21 <Mort-> Wahoo
33:23 <Mort-> I'm out
33:36 <Mort-> And today i got to talk to hydrazine
33:58 * Mort- has a blissful look on her face
34:51 <Mort-> Well it ended up a very stunned and dead eidolon
35:07 <Mort-> I swear next time I'm bringing smelling salts
35:13 <Mekkis> what should I give my eidolon?
35:19 <Mort-> In case i spray my allies by mistake
35:22 <Mort-> A tail!
35:25 <Mekkis> Reach, Improved Natural Attack, or Skilled
35:26 <Mort-> Paws
35:32 <Mort-> Furry muzzle
35:35 <Mekkis> I only have 1 evolution point letf
35:37 <Mekkis> left
35:42 <Mort-> Brown fur!
35:42 <Mekkis> and it's not that type of eidolon
35:46 <Mort-> Id say reach
35:48 <Mort-> Gah
35:58 <Mort-> I thought you would get a lemur
36:06 <Mort-> Reach is invaluable as a tank type
36:34 <Mort-> like those ds that can hit at 10 ft are nasty
36:54 <Mort-> Eidolon with reach should get combat reflexes :-)
37:10 <Mekkis> screw that: Power attack!
37:47 <Mort-> Lol
37:56 <Mort-> Reach first? :d
38:56 <Mekkis> actually
38:57 <Mort-> What's your eidolons damage like
38:58 <Mekkis> Bite!
39:11 <Mekkis> a lot less than it will be at 5th level
40:01 <Mort-> Ok but you haven't told me how much you will be doing in one combat round
40:01 <Mort-> Which reminds me
40:07 <Mekkis> what's a better attack routine?
40:08 <Mort-> Hydrazine says he can make the 8 pm game
40:24 <Mekkis> bite/claw/claw/claw or bite/slam/claw/claw?
40:31 <Mort-> Since mort is busy. Khaz/kendra will pop out?
40:46 <Mort-> Slam has status element to it?
41:09 <Mort-> Slam sound cool because it gives blugeoning damage
41:24 <Mort-> Else looks all piercing and slashing damage
41:39 <Mekkis> bite is all three
41:53 <Mekkis> I think clawing is more appropriate
42:10 <Brunius> http://chzscience.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/funny-science-news-experiments-memes-possibly-my-favorite-stretch-of-road.jpg
42:10 <Mort-> Ya for rp purposes
42:40 <Mort-> Who is running what on sat
42:45 <Mort-> !topic
43:02 <Brunius> I will be
43:04 <Brunius> Probably.
43:31 <Mort-> Brunius
43:33 <Mort-> Tell your teacher a shadow mastiff ate your homework
43:51 <Brunius> But my homework isn't named Mellon
44:36 <Mort-> And if she pisses it off
44:37 <Mort-> She gets an aoe fear
44:37 <Mort-> Sunday games i can't make it
44:55 <Mort-> But sat! Bring it on! :d
46:04 <Mort-> Tell her it does horrible things
46:12 <Mort-> Anyway what is your homework :p
46:25 <Mort-> I wonder if i can help haha
47:42 <Brunius> This seems familiar: http://chzscience.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/funny-science-news-experiments-memes-galactic-gas-sloshing.jpg
48:41 <Mort-> What home work were you assigned any way ^^
48:56 * Mort- is experiencing an alignment shift :p
52:16 <Mekkis> what from?
52:52 <Mekkis> Thank you for shopping at Capital Dick
53:03 <Mekkis> yay for truncation on pole displays
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00:16 <Mekkis> hey Jaggedsoul 
00:29 <Jaggedsoul> sup Mekkis
00:50 <Mekkis> fun stuff swapping a server around'
01:05 <Jaggedsoul> so that's why
01:09 <Jaggedsoul> :D
02:14 <Avatar> trust Jaggedsoul
02:15 <Jaggedsoul> I was wondr'n why Mibbit is acting up
02:33 <Jaggedsoul> to do what Avatar?
02:38 <Mort-> Lol
03:00 <Mekkis> hmm
03:02 <Mekkis> what feats?
03:47 <Jaggedsoul> I think I just landed into the middle of a conversation?
04:32 <Mekkis> nbt really
05:02 <Mort-> Vol you reach!
05:56 <Mekkis> so a summoner can't change his eidolon's skills or feats
06:14 <Jaggedsoul> what feats?
07:54 <Mort-> Told you
09:18 <Avatar> things
10:52 <Mekkis> hmmm
10:59 <Mekkis> looks like you also can't change base form
11:05 <Mekkis> :(
14:06 <Avatar> er, really
14:12 <Avatar> that breaks my summoner
14:51 <Avatar> well, maybe not
15:25 <Mekkis> looks like I need to make my eidolon a quadrupod now
15:31 <Mekkis> rather than next level
16:03 <Avatar> don't think we can do that now?
16:21 <Mekkis> I can
16:27 <Mekkis> he's never played a session :)
16:37 <Avatar> oh you have more than one summoner
17:05 <Mekkis> yes
17:06 <Avatar> WhyisTashestaken: tashes isn't taken
18:58 <tristen> avatar: http://www.journeyo.com/public/game/bofwimwapakhsbvmqsmzhloqqccfin
19:06 <tristen> can you look at that with opera again?
19:28 <tristen> it seems ok-ish now...
19:39 <tristen> have to click those up/down/top/bottom links to scroll though
19:50 <tristen> opera mobile doesn't support the native scrolling...
21:16 <Mekkis> tristen, what's up with the google ads?
21:32 <Mekkis> or adchoices
21:34 <Mekkis> or whatever
21:36 <tristen> dunno?
21:49 <tristen> i can't see them - i adblock :)
21:58 <tristen> are they messed up or something?
22:05 <Mekkis> they exist
22:06 <Mekkis> why?
22:30 <Avatar> can't talk, playing AC:R
22:43 <tristen> i thought you were asking if something was wrong with them
23:34 <tristen> are you asking me why do they exist?
23:53 <Mekkis> yeah
24:08 <tristen> generally? or on that page?
24:15 <Mekkis> on your server
24:26 <tristen> i put them on every page automatically
24:35 <Mekkis> does it make you much $?
24:48 <tristen> no it doesn't make me a cent
25:06 <Mekkis> then why do you do it?
25:35 <tristen> because i might make some beer money one day?
27:13 <Mekkis> looks like my eidolon will have less armour
32:19 <Mort-> Hydra can make it for your game mek
32:47 <Mort-> Look foward partying with him
33:21 <Mort-> Pity both khaz and kendra aren't packrats
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39:54 <tristen> yeah hydra's awesome
40:05 <tristen> he was talking to me earlier about SUPER-RANGER
40:22 <tristen> i thought i'd have to waste a feat on weapon specialisation
40:33 <tristen> in order to get that point blank master thing
40:42 <tristen> but i don't!
40:48 <tristen> i can just get it
40:53 <tristen> but rapid shot first
40:54 <Mekkis> weapon specialisation isn't a waste!
41:38 <tristen> it is when you only get a combat feat every 4 or 5 levels...
42:02 <tristen> oh wait weapon focus...
43:00 <tristen> dang it
43:06 <tristen> i need one or the other...
43:41 <tristen> i chose a stupid feat
43:47 <tristen> "deadly aim"
43:53 <tristen> deadly aim my arse what a waste
44:15 <Mekkis> it's not a waste!
44:46 <tristen> lol no - i'm such a buffoon
45:02 <tristen> Trade ranged attack bonus for damage
45:15 <tristen> i haven't been using that...
45:28 <tristen> +10 to hit atm
45:37 <tristen> shit shit shit
45:52 <Mekkis> -1 to attack
45:54 <Mekkis> +2 to damage
45:59 <Mekkis> GOOD TRADE!
46:06 <Mort-> It is
46:32 <Mort-> Same reason why my magus will take pa
47:09 <Mort->  Why do the boards say fighters are not good?
47:11 <tristen> still it's pretty crappy
47:25 <Mekkis> Mort-, the boards say that about a lot of things
47:32 <tristen> i'd rather get in a second shot...
47:33 <Mekkis> I disagree
47:47 <Mekkis> it's just that fighters are really difficult to make
48:01 <Mort-> Hitomi is my hero  ^^
48:05 <Mort-> Lol
48:13 <tristen> hitomi is everyone's hero!
48:22 <Mort-> Yes!
48:30 <tristen> (but i don't want to sit in his lap)
48:44 * Mort- cheers thelen
49:16 <Mort-> How hard it it to make a fighter
49:23 <Mort-> Wear plate
49:39 <tristen> you just say "wear this plate"
49:40 <Mort-> Get big sword
49:43 <Mort-> Start hitting
50:07 <tristen> man those hits on the sea witch were the stuff of legen
50:08 <tristen> d
50:17 <Mort-> Yeah
50:31 <tristen> i'm certain buck lives because of it
50:46 <Mort-> Khaz reaction to that kind of thing
50:57 <Mort-> Not entirely sure
51:08 <Mekkis> Mort-, that's exactly how to be very bored
51:09 <tristen> what would we have done if hitomi hadn't killed it?
51:12 <Mekkis> and hardly effective
51:16 <Mort-> He had 13rounds
51:22 <Mort-> To live
51:36 <Mort-> I was thinking of cutting tentacles
51:38 <Mort-> Actually
51:45 <tristen> yeah but what could any of us done if it was out of reach?
51:53 <Mort-> Not much
51:57 <tristen> nada
52:03 <Mort-> His ac is sick
52:09 <tristen> and there was no way buck was grappling free
52:18 <Mort-> Yeah
52:19 <tristen> or wrestling or whatever
52:24 <tristen> he's lucky as
52:57 <Mort-> I swear  i won't go out without grease again
53:10 <tristen> heheh
53:15 <Mort-> And not without glitter dust either
53:15 <Mekkis> tristen, you know you can use deadly aim and rapid shot together?
53:22 <Mort-> Yeah
53:36 <Mort-> He only has one feat though
53:43 <Mort-> He has to choose
53:46 <tristen> man i hate rapid shot
53:54 <Mort-> Why
53:59 <tristen> because i don't have it
54:03 <Mort-> Lol
54:09 <Mort-> Get it then
54:24 <Mort-> Can't wait to play with hydra
54:32 <tristen> i will! that's why i'm cranky is because i got that crappy deadly aim before i took rapid shot
54:44 <Mort-> Ill leave him to do all the talking
54:52 <Mort-> Lol
55:08 <Mort-> Khaz doesn't like to talk
55:16 <Mekkis> my Eidolon will take Antagonize!
55:18 <Mort-> He is quiet
55:27 <Mort-> Whats that
55:55 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/antagonize
56:38 <tristen> woo
56:44 <tristen> that's awesome
57:02 <tristen> On its next turn, the target must attempt to make a melee attack against you.
57:25 <Mekkis> that's right
57:50 <Mort-> Yes but only once per day per creature
57:59 <Mekkis> so?
58:03 <Mort-> Do it only once
58:15 <Mekkis> "YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT - SCRAWNY WIZARD!"
58:21 <tristen> XD
58:22 <Mort-> Like daze
58:27 <Mort-> Oh lol
58:30 <Mekkis> "WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER HERE AND HIT ME WITH YOUR QUARTERSTAFF THEN!"
58:32 <Mort-> Poor guy
58:41 <Mort-> Has to run over 
58:42 <tristen> aoo city
58:48 <Mekkis> (so I can kill you while you're not casting spells)
58:52 <Mort-> Tell that to khaz
59:16 <Mort-> He will say he has a problem and charge
59:20 <Mort-> Lol
59:42 <Mort-> But may not be good idea
59:44 <Mort-> 17
59:51 <Mort-> Ac
59:54 <Mekkis> then I'll claw claw claw bite him
00:08 <Mekkis> !throw 4#1d20+6
00:09 <diebot> Mekkis, 4#1d20+6: [1d20=1] 7, [1d20=15] 21, [1d20=19] 25, [1d20=12] 18
00:29 <tristen> owch
00:37 <Mort-> What level at
00:39 <Mekkis> !throw 4#1d6+5
00:40 <diebot> Mekkis, 4#1d6+5: [1d6=2] 7, [1d6=3] 8, [1d6=4] 9, [1d6=2] 7
00:43 <Mekkis> ummm
00:46 <Mort-> Definetdjw fked
00:47 <Mekkis> ignore the first one
00:49 <tristen> ded
00:52 <Mekkis> and take 24 damage
01:02 <tristen> lvl 1?
01:06 <Mekkis> level 4
01:10 <Mort-> Really?
01:20 <Mort-> Obviously
01:20 <tristen> still there's a near death experience for someone right there
01:25 <Mekkis> oh, and make a reflex save vs grease!
01:33 <tristen> erk
01:38 <tristen> he slimed me
01:39 <Mort-> Khaz will splat
01:52 <tristen> what IS your eidelon?
02:03 <Mekkis> Iktomi
02:04 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+2
02:04 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+2: [1d20=15] 17
02:07 <Mekkis> an arachnid
02:10 <Mort-> Lol
02:13 <tristen> no shit?
02:49 <tristen> how do you go in cities with an arachnid?
02:54 <Mekkis> she has 4 limbs
03:02 <Mekkis> I mean
03:09 <Mekkis> she's taken the limbs evolution 4 times
04:27 <tristen> powerful shit those eidelons
05:41 <Mort-> Wtf
05:51 <Mort-> How do you get +6
05:53 <Mekkis> hmmm
06:00 <Mort-> For attack roll :p
06:04 <Mekkis> BAB +3
06:07 <Mekkis> 16 str
06:08 <Mekkis> easy
06:14 <Mort-> Your eidolon cheats 
06:17 <Mort-> :p
06:32 <Mort-> I get 1d20+
06:38 <Mort-> 3:(
06:43 <Mekkis> hmm
06:45 <Mekkis> skills
08:06 <Mekkis> Intimidate, obviously
08:35 <Mort-> Oh wait
08:41 <Mort-> At 3 i get.
08:49 <Mort-> !throw 
09:41 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+4
09:41 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+4: [1d20=8] 12
09:49 <Mekkis> Acrobatics maybe?
10:17 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+12
10:18 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+12: [1d20=12] 24
10:27 <Mort-> Concentration successful
10:42 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+4
10:43 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+4: [1d20=8] 12
10:48 <Mort-> Oh man
11:02 <Mort-> Which is probably miss for both attacks
11:04 <Mekkis> mort, make a 20th level 3.5e character!
11:10 <Mort-> Why
11:24 <Mekkis> to get Ballig to run QQ!
11:35 <Mort-> Im afraid to fk up
11:43 <Mort-> I think i would run a magus
11:45 <Mort-> Lol
11:50 <Mekkis> 3.5e
12:08 <Mort-> But i don't know how to calculate it
12:49 <Mort-> If my rolls were that bad.
12:58 <Mort->  I wonder how the fk i hit things
13:04 <Mort-> 12 wtf :d
13:09 <Mekkis> actually
13:12 <Mekkis> touch AC is 12
13:13 <Mekkis> :)
13:43 <Mort-> Its a melee attack
13:52 <Mort-> I'm meleeing
14:55 <Mekkis> then no
14:57 <Mekkis> AC is 16
15:01 <Mekkis> 20 with Mage Armour
16:48 <Mort-> Yeah
17:04 <Mort-> Totally useless when trying to hit shit
17:10 * Mort- wincep
17:16 <Mort-> But 20 ac
17:23 <Mort-> Well if i have time to prepare
17:33 <Mort-> Its 21 ac here
18:08 <Mekkis> if I had time to prepare, you'd be grappled
18:58 <Mort-> I guess
19:05 <Mort-> What's your grapple roll
19:17 <Mort-> Don't think I'm that easy to graple
21:05 <Mort-> Does dodge apply to cmd?
21:15 <Mort-> Because i have 17 for cmd
21:20 <Mort-> Otherwise
23:38 <Mekkis> not sure
23:45 <Mekkis> +6
23:50 <Mekkis> but I get four tries!
24:33 <Mekkis> one after each hit!
39:39 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (Brunius, new game) / Sat 8pm (Mekkis, new game) | Sun 11am (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
39:39 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Thu Feb 16 20:05:28 2012
39:39 <***> Buffer Playback...
39:39 <***> Playback Complete.
39:53 <Mekkis> "Come over here and say that!"
43:01 * Mort- refuses to go over. Ac won't take it
43:03 <Mort-> :d
44:13 <Avatar> I am feeling pretty thirsty for a game
44:25 <Avatar> might run something tomorrow during the day if people are here
44:59 <Mort-> BARBARIAN ALWAYS FIND THAT RAGELANCEPOUNCE AM GOOD BEGINNING, MIDDLE, AND END TO DISAGREEMENT.
45:05 * Mort- giggles
45:06 <Mort-> Look
45:08 <Mort-> Lol
46:10 <Avatar> assuming I wake up early enough :|
46:25 <Avatar> I guess I could always schedule an afternoon game
46:29 <Mort-> I won't be around
46:31 <Mort-> Work
46:43 <Avatar> pretty sure we can gather up 3 people
46:43 <Mort-> I may be online
46:47 <Mort-> But can't game
46:51 <Mort-> Get hydra
46:52 <Avatar> ok mort
48:14 <Mort-> Most people build fighters who are stupid, powering attacking lunkheads without the sense God game a brick. -
48:24 <Mekkis> Mort-, except that that Doesn't Work
48:31 <Mort-> Cheers. But i love hydra anyway :p
48:38 <Mekkis> (I imagine you've read that thread now)
48:43 <Mort-> Actually he is probably smarter then i am
48:46 <Mort-> Yeah
48:47 <Avatar> what are you two talking about doing
48:48 <Mort-> Some of it
48:57 <Mort-> Uh
49:13 <Mort-> An afternoon of combat tactics and sharing the crits
49:25 <Mort-> With butterfly sting
49:36 <Mort-> I can ensure i hit using use strike
49:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, several months ago, someone claimed that they had made a barbarian who could take on and defeat any caster
49:40 <Mort-> True strike
50:10 <Mekkis> and kept it up with a bunch of bullshi
50:11 <Mekkis> t
50:23 <Avatar> that's a bit vague
50:34 <Avatar> is there a thread?
51:41 <Mort-> Paladin? Make love to your horse and quit bugging me with your moral qualms while I'm killing these goblin vermin before they breed. Hey, did you hear that next adventure is all constructs and killer mushrooms?
51:42 <Mort-> Lol
51:54 * Mort- giggles more
52:34 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4r3h&page=1?AM-BARBARIAN-Build
52:38 <Mekkis> Avatar, enjoy
52:51 <Avatar> ta
53:15 <Mort-> But i know my brothers bezerker in baldurs gate
53:24 <Avatar> er, is this level 20
53:27 <Mort-> Was able to shrug off a lot of magical things
53:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, maybe :S
53:43 <Mort-> Again. Once i got my hand on the casomyr
53:46 <Mekkis> I don't know
53:48 <Mort-> So could i
54:20 <Mort-> Wtf. I just confessed i played a paladin before :(
54:33 <Mort-> But i was young and naive back then
55:39 <Avatar> did Kempt vanish
55:40 <Avatar> what's his story
56:07 <Avatar> I find it weird when there are newbies who come in, get a character ready, stay in the channel until the DAY BEFORE the game they're meant to play
56:12 <Avatar> and then vanish on said day
57:33 <Mekkis> Mort-, don't be hard on Paladins like that. That's Heresy!
57:50 <Mekkis> heresy is a crime
58:02 <Mekkis> punishment is burning
58:08 <Mort-> Well i was younger back then
58:09 <Mekkis> Paladin is Lawful!
58:23 <Mort-> And i wanted to be able to use that shiny holy sword!
58:37 <Mort-> Now i know it isn't worth it!
58:48 <Mort-> I keep losing my alignment
58:52 <Mort-> :d
59:20 <Mort-> I haven't met a pally that hasn't turned me off with goody two shoes :p
59:35 <Mekkis> you haven't met Asmel
59:55 <Mort-> The only thing pallies are good for is keeping mobs off me
00:05 <Mort-> And using my cure light wounds wand :d
00:10 <Mort-> To heal me :d
00:18 <Mort-> And oh yes. The spell magnet
00:42 <Mort-> They have such good saving throws they should make use of it!
00:44 <Mort-> Also the trouble magnet.
00:58 <Mekkis> That's very selfish of you.
01:00 <Mort-> Charge into a roomful of bads
01:08 <Mort-> To rescue a damsel in distress
01:23 <Mort-> That's why i can't play paladin
01:35 <Mort-> Lawful good is too restrictive
01:41 <Mekkis> no it isn't
01:48 <Mort-> Ill be in serious danger of alignment shift
02:03 <Mort-> I can't play a lawful character
02:11 <Mekkis> it's people like you who make it hard for anyone to play a paladin
02:18 <Avatar> I'm not even sure you can play a neutral character
02:39 <Mort-> I think I'm chaotic good
02:47 <Mekkis> lots of people do
02:49 <Mort-> Actually
02:54 <Mort-> For alignment base
03:10 <Mekkis> I'm not convinced my alignment is good yet
03:20 <Mort-> Don't worry. I won't show my disdain for paladins in a fight
03:42 <Mekkis> after speaking with people like Bossman, I'm thinking I do tend towards law
03:54 <Mort-> After all i get to go without my clw if the pally gets pissed ^^
04:01 <Mort-> I'm a long way from law
04:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, you notice how I didn't complain when you changed Jasim's alignment
04:23 <Mekkis> although he kept trying to prove you wrong
04:24 <Mort-> What did jasim do
04:27 <Mort-> Btw
04:29 <Mort-> Curious
04:51 <Mekkis> he did everything
05:05 * Mort- still thinks disdainful stuff about paladinr
05:10 <Mort-> Paladins
05:12 <Mort-> Heh
05:13 <Mekkis> I think he made most of the decisions in LSK that actually completed the missions
05:20 <Mekkis> he wasn't a paladin
05:29 <Mekkis> he was a human fighter/barbarian
05:39 <Mort-> You do what you must when the devil driver
05:43 <Mort-> Drives
05:50 <Mekkis> who was neutral good
05:53 <Mort-> What happened to his alignment
05:56 <Mort-> Ok
05:59 <Mekkis> and stood up for what he believed in
06:01 <Mort-> Neutral?
06:04 <Mort-> At the end?
06:18 <Mort-> Which is your right. But may not always be right :d
06:20 <Mekkis> he believed that Natsumi was not someone who should remain on this plane
06:25 <Mort-> Ah
06:30 <Mort-> Did he turn evil?
06:36 <Mekkis> neutral
06:42 <Mort-> Ah
06:52 * Mort- shrugs
07:09 <Mort-> I don't think i can play an evil character either
07:13 <Mort-> I'm not that evil
07:52 <Mekkis> playing evil really requires the cooperation of the DM
08:25 <Mekkis> the easiest way to play an evil character is to simply have a desire and be willing to do /anything/ to achieve it
09:52 <Mort-> Ah
10:06 <Mort-> But its possible getting you killed by your party
10:16 <Mort-> Like taking all the lewt^^
10:16 <Mekkis> depending on how you play it
10:36 <Mekkis> if you take all the loot, then the party won't want you around
10:40 <Mort-> Btw can i give more anti pally quips? :p
10:42 <Mort-> Yeah
10:46 <Mekkis> so you won't be able to get more loot 
10:52 <Mort-> I guess
11:03 <Mekkis> so it's in your interest for you to have the party around
11:04 <Mort-> K its like spirit eating
11:13 <Mekkis> more like: what happened in a campaign I was in
11:18 <Mort-> Even most evil characters
11:31 <Mekkis> some people are planning to poison many townsfolk
11:34 <Mort-> Don't go on endless spirit buffet in motb
11:38 <Mort-> Too hard to control
11:42 <Mekkis> we know that they are there, and where they are
12:12 <Mort-> Do you have any vested interest in the towns folk?
12:13 <Mekkis> of course, we could find them an kill them before they start poisoning everyone
12:25 <Mort-> You could probably make money selling cures ^^
12:51 <Mort-> Or intimidate them into giving you cash to ensure you keep your mouths shut
12:57 <Mekkis> but it'd get us more money to let them kill people, cause some panic, and then, when they come begging to us to save them, charge a lot of money
13:07 <Mort-> Ah i see
13:17 <Mekkis> oh, and stockpile potions of lesser restoration and antitoxin
13:18 <Mort-> So you took the selling cures route :p
13:24 <Mekkis> no
13:29 <Mort-> That i mentioned earlier?
13:31 <Mekkis> we took the selling cures route
13:43 <Mort-> Nice :d
13:47 <Mekkis> and the "kill them, but only after they offer us a massive reward"
14:12 * Mort- gives her best evil villian laugh
14:14 <Mort-> Excellent
14:29 <Mort-> Your on your way to becoming a sith lord
14:35 <Mort-> I love your style :d
14:39 * Mort- grins
14:52 <Mort-> Damn I'm getting closer to the dark side
15:13 <Mekkis> actually, in that campaign my LE assassin was more friends with the LG fighter than the CN rogue and CN ranger
15:23 <Mort-> Why
15:31 <Mort-> How did the lawful good fighter
15:33 <Mekkis> because we could trust each other
15:37 <Mort-> Even allow you to sell cures
16:02 <Mort-> Yes chaotic characters are hard to work with
16:07 <Mekkis> because I explained to him the law of supply and demand
16:13 <Mort-> So?
16:15 <Mekkis> and asked him if he really wanted to defy it
16:20 <Mort-> Why didn't he demand that you
16:26 <Mort-> Kill the guys spreading poison
16:40 <Mort-> It is against his alignment not to do so
16:40 <Mekkis> we did
16:42 <Mekkis> in the end
16:44 <Mort-> Before they even start
16:52 <Mort-> Yes but why did he even allow you
17:02 <Mort-> To let the guys poison the towns folk
17:10 <Mort-> My wizard would protest
17:18 <Mort-> And she is neutral good
17:41 <Mort-> I really didnt approve of doing the kill on sight stuff in the sins
17:43 <Mort-> Shop
17:58 <Mort-> Kendra would not care
18:08 <Mort-> Not sure how khaz would feel about i
18:09 <Mort-> It
18:14 <Avatar> in the what?
18:22 <Mort-> Shop
18:26 <Avatar> what is the sins shop
18:32 <Mort-> The shop
18:35 <Mort-> Bad spelling
18:40 <Avatar> what shop
18:42 <Mort-> They just went kill on sight
18:51 <Avatar> oh, BTD 1?
18:53 <Mort-> The shop in before the dawn
18:58 <Mort-> Yeah
19:10 <Avatar> yeah that is the biggest recurring gripe I have heard about PFS
19:11 <Mort-> I really didn't care for it in wizard form
19:15 <Avatar> people who don't cooperate
19:26 <Mort-> I do cooperate
19:32 <Avatar> once you've done something, it's done
19:41 <Mort-> If your in a fight you want to be the last one standing
19:50 <Mort-> But you shouldn't start unnecessary ones
19:57 <Mort-> Not with people in a shop!
20:18 <Mort-> Bloodthisty bastards ^^
20:40 <Mort-> My take on the situation is this. People stare at each other all the time
21:01 <Mort-> You wouldn't punch someone in the face in rl if he stared at you
21:10 <Mort-> So why are you doing it in game :p
21:28 <Mort-> Especially if you are playing good characters
21:46 <Mort-> If you are playing chaotic evil characters
21:52 <Mort-> Wouldn't give a fk
22:19 <Mort-> I say. Too much testrone.
22:28 <Mekkis> Senzar?
22:48 <Mort-> Ya :p
22:55 <Mort-> Now i didn't use sense motive
23:20 <Mekkis> There are three types of people
23:25 <Mekkis> The Good people
23:30 <Mekkis> The Neutral people
23:37 <Mort-> So i don't see the hidden implications of the situation
23:41 <Mekkis> and the people who don't like using labels
24:07 <Mort-> Ah
24:20 <Mort-> I dunno
24:41 <Mort-> I believe in the classic rules of engagements  like they have in armies
25:07 <Mort-> You do not shoot on sight unless you can see a life will be threatened
25:34 <Mort-> Maybe they interpreted that our lives would be threatened
25:38 <Mort-> Khaz is actually fairly effective with a bow
25:44 <Mort-> damage wise
25:56 <Mort-> Hitting might be an issue though
26:12 <Mort-> 1d20+3 ><
27:39 <Mort-> I haven't been able to differentiate khaz and mort yet
27:55 <Mort-> Should start tryin to split them
29:40 <Mekkis> Do you have any idea how many hours have gone into this crap?
29:40 <Mekkis> Thousands upon thousands. Capturing humans, testing them, developing viruses, giving the humans the viruses, watching them die, capturing more humans …
29:40 <Mekkis> So I mean, I’ve been working as long as I can remember on perfecting a virus for the humans. Ever since I got to this stupid place.
29:40 <Mekkis> And here I am slaving away, trying to develop the perfect contagious killing machine … 
31:26 <Mort-> That's sheer evil
31:33 <Mort-> He should be killed
31:47 <Mort-> And burn his body to ashes so there is no rez
33:25 * Mort- snarls
33:34 * Mort- growls as well
36:04 <Avatar> oh crap, I still have a few hours to download 93 gig
38:47 <Mort-> Lol
39:47 <Mort-> But personally i think fighters are seriously short changed when dealing with weird stuff
40:03 <Mort-> Like what do you do when something goes invis on you?
40:16 <Mort-> Or incorpreal
40:54 <Mekkis> incorporeal isn't hard
40:59 <Mekkis> it's just 50% damage
41:00 <Mort-> Yell holy fking shit and hope someone in party brought along holy water or glitterdust
41:07 <Mekkis> yeah
41:14 <Mekkis> that's what the wizard is there for
41:22 <Mort-> Well that's my wizard will have
41:34 <Mort-> I think my magus may pick it up too
41:44 <Mekkis> faerie fire
41:50 <Mekkis> see invisibilty
42:05 <Mort-> What do you do if you can see
42:12 <Mort-> But your party members cannot
42:25 <Mort-> Say instead of glitterdust
42:25 <Mekkis> cast faerie fire!
42:30 <Mort-> You used see invisible
42:32 <Mekkis> or glitterdust
42:34 <Mort-> Wizard
42:37 <Mort-> Can't
42:45 <Mekkis> cast Dancing Lights
42:50 <Mekkis> or flaming sphere
42:52 <Mort-> But you can tell them which square right
42:59 <Mekkis> and yell "Hit where the sphere is"!
43:27 <Avatar> Mekkis: our party in that special didn't have a wizard
43:35 <Mekkis> yeas
43:40 <Mekkis> it was difficult, wasn't it
43:48 <Avatar> pretty punishing
43:51 <Avatar> lucky you had a GUNSLINGER instead !
43:54 <Avatar> :D
44:20 <Mort-> What did you do lol
44:28 <Avatar> well I shot things
44:30 <Avatar> a lot
44:40 <Mekkis> yeah
44:43 <Mort-> It doesn't help if invisible
44:56 <Mekkis> Grolschmir had faerie fire
45:09 <Mort-> In that case of btd
45:50 <Avatar> how do ranged weaps work vs invisible
45:57 <Mekkis> choose a square
45:59 <Mekkis> roll to hit
46:03 <Mekkis> roll miss chance
46:12 <Avatar> surely you wouldn't aim for a square
46:12 <Mort-> That s got glittery and very dead
46:12 <Avatar> I mean you would, but you'd attack in a line
46:12 <Avatar> anything in that line, closest to you, would be hit first
46:12 <Avatar> or is that too logical
46:12 <Mort-> That person in line can dodge
46:22 <Mekkis> incorrect
46:26 <Avatar> that's choosing a square
46:26 <Mekkis> you aim for a square
46:32 <Avatar> but your shot goes in a line
46:41 <Mekkis> it goes in an arc
46:53 <Avatar> miss chance I can understand
46:53 <Mort-> K
46:56 <Avatar> shots don't go in an arc
47:00 <Avatar> unless you're talking range increments
47:01 <Mekkis> yes they do
47:06 <Mort-> Time to get dancing lights for mort
47:09 <Mort-> Its an hida
47:11 <Avatar> within the first 40-120ft, you're still fine
47:11 <Mort-> Idea
47:16 <Avatar> range increments covers arcs
47:18 <Avatar> you're shooting in a line
47:28 <Mekkis> you're always shooting in an arc
47:29 <Mort-> I'm out of glitterdust
48:00 <Mekkis> gravity doesn't turn off if you
48:08 <Mort-> How do you use powder to fight an invisible creature
48:09 <Mekkis> 're not shooting something far away
48:14 <Mekkis> throw it at them
48:28 <Avatar> for the first range increment, it's a line
48:31 <Mekkis> anyway. Sleep
48:33 <Mekkis> not it isn
48:34 <Mekkis> 't
48:35 <Mort-> Say if you have no caster who loaded anything to deal with invisibility
48:39 <Mort-> Ok
48:41 <Avatar> have you ever done real archery before
48:44 <Mekkis> gravity doesn't care how far you're shooting
48:51 <Mekkis> have you ever thrown a shovel before?
48:52 <Avatar> when you aim at a target, you're not shooting a little higher
49:00 <Mekkis> or thrown darts?
49:02 <Avatar> it's not throwing a shovel, it's shooting a bow or a bullet
49:03 <Mort-> My friend went for it
49:14 <Mekkis> you are shooting a little higher
49:18 <Avatar> throwing a shovel would be a 10ft range increment anyway
49:20 <Mort-> Don't know how it turned out though
49:27 <Avatar> you would still be throwing in a line
49:41 <Mekkis> try throwing a shovel 10' without accounting for the arc
49:50 <Avatar> OK I will
49:53 <Avatar> I'll throw it at you ok
49:57 <Avatar> let's see if I hit you
50:07 <Mekkis> try throwing it at a wall
50:14 <Avatar> put your money where your mouth is
50:17 <Hydrazine> don't forget your -4 for improvised weapons.
50:34 <Avatar> maybe I should throw something I'm proficient in
50:42 <Mekkis> throw a keyboard 10'
50:53 <Mort-> Haha
50:54 <Avatar> it's not really fair to compare throwing a shovel to shooting a bow or a gun
51:10 <Mort-> -4 for improvised weapons
51:10 <Mekkis> what about a dart?
51:11 <Mort-> I like
51:20 <Avatar> yeah a dart is ok
51:29 * Mort- bets avatar will miss
51:33 <Hydrazine> even darts have nothing close to the raw speed of a bullet.
51:46 <Avatar> within 1 range increment, I doubt it
51:46 <Mort-> Because avatar doesn't have good dex :p
52:01 <Mekkis> what's the range increment of a dart?
52:04 <Avatar> 20ft
52:07 <Mort-> I think hydrazine would hit though
52:08 <Avatar> how many m is that
52:22 <Avatar> about 6.5m
52:30 <Mekkis> wow
52:46 <Hydrazine> is this a in-game dart or a real dart?
52:49 <Mekkis> at 6m, you will be taking into account the arc
52:51 <Avatar> this is a real dart
52:54 <Avatar> that I will throw in a line at mekkis
52:58 <Avatar> if he's right, I'll miss
53:01 <Hydrazine> because i believe a regulation dart board line is 10ft.
53:11 <Hydrazine> and even then you consider arc.
53:14 * Mort- giggles
53:21 <Mekkis> (that being said, my throwing style uses the arc more than it probably needs to)
53:27 <Mekkis> (I hold it by the tip)
53:33 <Avatar> a dart board would be less than a small creature
53:37 <Mekkis> throwing a dagger is even harder
53:39 <Avatar> especially if you're talking aiming for a bullseye
53:50 <Mort-> Don't you hold darts in the middle?
53:51 <Mekkis> you're always aiming for the bullseye :S
53:55 <Hydrazine> i used to have a dartboard. when i tried to throw at 20ft, i hit my roof.
54:02 <Mort-> I've never throw a dart before
54:09 <Avatar> aiming for the bullseye on a medium creature is like aiming for a critical hit
54:20 <Hydrazine> thats silly, avatar.
54:30 <Mekkis> the bullseye is in the middle
54:38 <Avatar> you're aiming for a medium creature
54:46 * Mort- has no idea how to throw darts
54:55 <Hydrazine> ...think of it this way. EVERY single time you throw, you're AIMING for a bullseye. when you hit the target, you hit the target. when you hit the bullseye, you got really lucky and you win.
54:56 <Mekkis> there are two ways: the middle and the tip
55:04 <Avatar> you're trying to convince me you can't throw a dart in a line and expect to hit a target
55:17 <Mort-> Id use the middle but that's me
55:21 <Mekkis> daggers are even harder
55:27 <Hydrazine> ...go stand infront of a dartboard while people are playing?
55:28 <Avatar> it doesn't matter whether it's the middle or the tip
55:32 <Avatar> if we're talking bows or guns
55:35 <Mort-> I've never really thrown wa dart in rl
55:36 <Mekkis> because you need to take into account rotation
55:53 <Avatar> you shoot straight
55:53 <Mort-> I've thrown pillows though!
55:58 <Mort-> They arc
56:00 <Mekkis> it doesn't help if you've hit an enemy with the handle
56:01 <Avatar> ESPECIALLY if we're trying to hit an invisible creature
56:29 <Mekkis> I thought you'd ready an action to shoot him :S
56:38 <Hydrazine> what rotation? bows and guns keep the pointy end first the whole time.
56:55 <Hydrazine> or well. you get the point.
57:00 <Avatar> ho ho ho
57:18 <Mekkis> RAW, you choose the square
57:32 * Mort- throws a pillow at hydrazine
57:47 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+2
59:19 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+2: [1d20=5] 7
59:19 <Avatar> right, so it's just for the sake of the game that you shoot in an arc, right
59:19 <Avatar> it's not actually logical
59:19 <Mort-> Damn. Missed :(
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