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07:06 <Dave> hey
07:20 <rust_collector> hoi hoi
09:13 <K> which one of Daves is this one?
09:44 <Dave> the nice one
09:49 * T3sl4 squints at them
09:51 Nick: Dave is now known as TheDude
09:57 <T3sl4> hmmmmmmmmmmm, that's dave.
10:07 <rust_collector> TheDave
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05:43 <rust_collector> TADDA!
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06:04 <rust_collector> HAHAA!
06:19 <K> this is very suspicious.
06:55 <rust_collector> nah, he works for the british agency with not too many letters
08:20 <K> ho works?
08:26 <K> he, not ho
08:38 <rust_collector> are you turning french?
09:35 <rust_collector> anyway, not officially, it is off the books, I guess you could say
09:42 <rust_collector> secret things
10:42 <K> so secret noone knows
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16:33 <MrMobodies> I just saw Thunderf00ts latest video just now
16:39 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjfluJcHnA
16:40 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Thunderf00t HUMILIATED by Mars Helicopter Success!
18:17 <MrMobodies> and it seems, how do put it, the commenters are making out he's wrong and busted
18:36 <MrMobodies> when Nasa stated it was a high risk project
19:20 <MrMobodies> it's as if theyt are commenting over nothing, unless I am missing something.
19:36 <MrMobodies> and the video didn't have busted in the title
20:33 <MrMobodies> I think he said suspected them of being Elon Musk's fans
21:37 <MrMobodies> I found it a strange video where they seemed to be putting words in his mouth.
21:09 <Lemon> hello im looking to purchase all the digits and ppms pls
21:10 <eevBot> Hello, Lemon!
44:43 <Kuschelpony> lool:
45:00 <Kuschelpony> someone said "there is noc IC that makes a worse sinus than the XR2206"
45:14 <Kuschelpony> someone oter replied with "NE555"
12:02 <Lemon> this pa is driving me crazy
12:14 <Lemon> why the fuck it timeout exactly one out of two commands
12:30 <Lemon> no 45% or 61% of the time
12:40 <Lemon> one command outputs something, other timeout, then it works, then it doesnt
14:38 <Kuschelpony> i really really would give you an answer but have no idea
14:44 <electrohead> o/
14:56 <Kuschelpony> software never was my thing
15:48 * T3sl4 hugs Kuschelpony, wedges some Lemon on electrohead's pint of beer
16:10 <Lemon> I feel that nothing is my thing those last days
16:18 <Lemon> hello t3sl4
16:19 <eevBot> Hello, Lemon!
16:19 <electrohead> lol, hey guys
16:23 <Lemon> it really pissesm e off
16:32 <T3sl4> hello :)
16:33 <eevBot> Hello, T3sl4!
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01:01 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
01:05 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
02:02 <Ysjoelfir> so, lemon, did you find anything with the PA? my ex workmate would be happy to help
02:28 <Lemon> hello ! well, it timeouts exactly 1/2 of the time
02:29 <eevBot> Hello, Lemon!
02:31 <Lemon> heres an example
02:35 <rust_collector> well, Lemon it probably means you tell it to, every time. since it does the same every time...
02:42 <Lemon> <- ;;PR +2.465E+02;
02:42 <Lemon> ! VI_ERROR_TMO: A timeout occurred
02:42 <Lemon> Visa ErrorCode: 0xBFFF0015 (-1073807339)
02:42 <Lemon> <-
02:42 <Lemon> <- ;;PR +2.482E+02;
03:02 <rust_collector> mornings ysjoelf
03:03 <Lemon> OC; turns it in continuous output mode, sending something every 250ms
03:09 <Lemon> so after that I do a PR; to get power
03:13 <Lemon> and click read
03:22 <Lemon> read, it works, read again, timeout, and so on
03:36 <electrohead> Lemon: try to use a paste service, if you can
03:37 <Lemon> so yes at that stage I would really love if your coworker can help :P
03:51 <Lemon> ha yes sorry I thought it was tidy enough
04:16 <electrohead> all good, some clients have flood protection turned on by default, and parts the channel for X seconds
04:18 <electrohead> (like mine, lol)
04:19 <Ysjoelfir> could you write a question text I can copy and send him?
04:27 <Lemon> ok lemme try
06:31 <Lemon> Can you please tell me how to properly log from it ? I tried using the OC; function along with PR or any other measurement function, then use the "read response" function from Keysight interactive IO, and it works exactly one out of two times, like it outputs the measurement as expected, second time it timeouts, and so on. Doesn't matter if I use OR or ON to put it on normal output and send multiple time the PR function, it will also
06:31 <Lemon> times.
06:43 <Lemon> I did my best, I struggle to explain those things correctly
08:57 <Lemon> I think I've read the manual 10 times by now
09:04 <Lemon> I'm starting to know functions by heart xd
09:16 <Ysjoelfir> copy/pasted it for him
10:15 <Lemon> thanks a lot dude, im really desperate
10:25 <Lemon> and im sure it works, there's just something I overlooked or dont know
10:29 <Lemon> no way it half works like this
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13:30 <Guest|8331> hello
13:59 <Guest|8331> any ee's in here?
13:59 <rust_collector> HELLO!
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14:08 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v eevBot
14:13 <rust_collector> I think there are some of them here
14:13 <electrohead> howdy
15:13 <electrohead> !paste
15:14 <eevBot> Paste services: http://ix.io/ - http://sprunge.us/ - https://www.pastebin.com/
15:18 <electrohead> cool. :)
15:23 <rust_collector> hah
15:35 <rust_collector> like no one would know it was you....
15:52 <electrohead> ?
16:09 <rust_collector> nothing
16:11 <Guest|8331> i'm an MRO guy - just tried my hand at building a parts search for components onto our MRO site... looking for some feedback. anyone willing to take a look
16:26 <Ysjoelfir> whats an MRO?
16:39 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi
16:50 <Guest|8331> maintenance, repair, organisational... so parts search... but for non-electronics
16:55 <rust_collector> massively random organisation?
17:09 <electrohead> he means the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
17:12 <electrohead> :p
17:37 <Guest|8331> when you got to rs components and see they sell facemasks and fasteners... that sort of stuff is MRO
18:01 <Ysjoelfir> I think nearly everyone sells facemasks nowadays ;P
18:34 <Guest|8331> will i get kicked out for pasting a link for you guys to test? :-)
18:43 <rust_collector> nah
18:58 <electrohead> (depends on the credibility of the link)
19:04 <Ysjoelfir> that depends if I am in a good mood :P
19:12 <electrohead> `op
19:12 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o electrohead
19:16 <electrohead> Me too :P
19:26 <Ysjoelfir> oh, did you add op commands?
19:33 <Guest|8331> i'll risk it... https://www.stockedmro.com/ - so hopefully you can find some parts
19:34 <eevBot> [Title] - Stocked MRO - MRO & Electronic Component Data Aggregator
19:40 <Lemon> reported immediately
19:40 <electrohead> nah, that's always been part of the austnet network commands
19:41 <rust_collector> if you post different kinds of boobies, I am sure Ysjoelfir would allow it
19:57 <Lemon> ok but good boobies
19:59 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: if you're on the channel's op list, then you can do that, as well
20:15 Mode: (by electrohead) -o electrohead
20:44 <Ysjoelfir> fascinating.
20:53 <Ysjoelfir> I should read up what the ChanOP thing can actually do
22:15 <electrohead> it can do a lot :P
22:21 <Guest|8331> hmm might not have allowed me to post - just shows the page title from eevbot in here
22:52 <Ysjoelfir> sure it had
23:19 <Ysjoelfir> `access
23:33 <electrohead> that's what it is designed to do - eevBot will parse the title of the webpages linked in the channel
23:36 <rust_collector> it works
23:48 <rust_collector> you post the link, the bot posts the title
24:12 <Ysjoelfir> `access -
24:18 <Guest|8331> ah cool, thought it was filtering links out or something...
24:34 <rust_collector> I am not sure if it is something you have anything to do with, but if you search for briggs & stratton, I get : BRIGGS&amp;STRATTON
25:06 <rust_collector> it could just be a typo just there in the description. i dunno?
25:33 <rust_collector> yeah, no, it is probably just there
25:34 <Guest|8331> what page is that on
26:05 <Guest|8331> ah right
26:37 <Guest|8331> it's an early prototype so i'm working through a few of these things
26:58 <rust_collector> heh, when I click the item, it is fine, but it is only in the search result page....
27:23 <rust_collector> I guess you get the text there from other places, so it is probably not your fault
28:31 <rust_collector> hmm, or maybe it does that, because it looks like it tried to highlight b&s, which was my search term
29:03 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/Em1vDaq.png
29:08 <Guest|8331> ah yes, thats it. i just put in the highlight this afternoon. copied from stackoverflow... i guess those are the risks you take
29:27 <rust_collector> i am not sure if it is easy to see there
29:36 <Guest|8331> will fix that
29:42 <rust_collector> well, at least it is highlighted, lol
30:57 <electrohead> "copied from stackoverflow" --> https://stackoverflow.blog/2021/04/19/how-often-do-people-actually-copy-and-paste-from-stack-overflow-now-we-know/
30:58 <eevBot> [Title] - How often do people actually copy and paste from Stack Overflow? Now we know. - Stack Overflow Blog
30:59 <electrohead> :P
32:13 <Lemon> those tonghui devices are really nice
32:19 <Lemon> power supplies are quite interesting too
32:38 <Guest|8331> any thoughts on the ecad and image searching options in the filters?
32:49 <electrohead> rust_collector: "&amp;" is the html code for an ampersand, that's pretty much a direct copy from the source code, from whatever site it was found on
33:11 <rust_collector> hmm, for things like screws and bolts, maybe you should try to work a little bit on the sorting there... if I search for 1/4" 20 1", it does find a 1/4" 20, but the 1" is also seen in the first half of 1/2", which would be annoying1/2"
33:22 <electrohead> Guest|8331: maybe parse for the usual/normal codes used, and convert them to the human readable equivalant?
33:28 <rust_collector> electrohead i know, but it shoudl not be shown like that on the page
33:39 <electrohead> ahh ok
33:59 <electrohead> Guest|8331: what language did you use, to parse all sites for search results?
35:12 <Guest|8331> php. we do it for mro and i thought i could have a go with components.
35:21 <electrohead> nice :)
35:40 <electrohead> nice job, btw
35:44 <rust_collector> a mixture of haskell and brainfuck... ported to basic
35:45 <Guest|8331> i'm supposed to use node.js because "php is not a professional language" according to my peers
36:36 <electrohead> everyone talks crap about all languages
36:39 <electrohead> heh
36:44 <electrohead> I do have a bigger question, now.
36:45 <electrohead> "We use Your Personal data to provide and improve the Service. By using the Service, You agree to the collection and use of information in accordance with this Privacy Policy."
36:54 <electrohead> What data is being collected?
37:09 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #EEVblog
37:20 <rust_collector> credit card data, and... not much else
37:27 <electrohead> eevBot: slap rust_collector
37:27 * eevBot viciously slaps rust_collector with an enormous smelly trout
37:29 <Nothing\> hola ya menya es amok
37:38 <electrohead> hola senor
37:54 <Nothing\> shto hola?
38:07 <Nothing\> je ne parle pas francais maintenant
38:19 <electrohead> nein? guten tag.
38:23 <rust_collector> hola, estoy gringo postale
38:28 <Nothing\> ya goveryu pa-ruuskyu
38:39 <electrohead> lol
39:39 <Nothing\> lol when i went to cancun there was this dumb looking robot type... i dunno gotchapon type vending machine or something and every time you kicked it it would say "hola mi amo amok"
39:50 <Nothing\> my brother and i thought it was the funniest thing in the world
39:57 <Guest|8331> no personal data. i'm not a lawyer so just did a privacy policy generator to polish before the site gets submitted to search engines etc
40:07 <Nothing\> back in like 1997
42:03 <Nothing\> speaking of personal data, you guys ever watch these scambaiters on youtube?
42:06 <Nothing\> it's great
43:16 <Nothing\> they talk to these scammers that call you who are clearly indian but pretend to be americans from microsoft saying something like "you're paying $300 a month for your antivirus software, if you make a one time payment to us for $500 you won't have to pay this anymore"
43:41 <Nothing\> then after some bullshit they eventulaly get you to go out and get $500 in xbox gift cards then send them pictures of the activation number
43:43 <rust_collector> I got this week off... I took today off, and was going to say I would not come tomorrow either. then mr boss called, and said he thought it was best if I just took the week off...
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43:55 <Nothing\> but this guy will hack their computers and delete every file he possibly can off of them
44:11 <Nothing\> which is usually lists of phone numbers and apps they use in their scamming process and shit
44:33 <Nothing\> while also wasting their time on a 2-3 hour call where they think they're gonna hit paydirt
44:48 <Nothing\> he pretends to be an old lady from las vegas
45:03 <Nothing\> this one guy actually wanted her to send him $17,000 through UPS
45:09 <Nothing\> in a cardboard box
45:45 <Nothing\> so naturally guys from a similar channel went over there, cuz it was in california and confronted the guy
46:09 <Nothing\> it was this little asian kid, obviously here for college and pretended he had no idea what was going on and it was the first time he did it
46:38 <Nothing\> and the idiots gave him the benefit of the doubt, trying to get the higher ups to come and pick up the package and told the guy to call when he got there
46:56 <Nothing\> and of course they never heard back from him and he just disappeared cuz he was staying in an airbnb
47:30 <Nothing\> in any case, the videos are great fun to watch when he fucks with the scammers
47:51 <Nothing\> especially when he finds where they're working from and describes the area perfectly, it really scares the shit out of them
48:10 <electrohead> eevBot: give coffee to Nothing\
48:11 * eevBot pours coffee down Nothing\'s throat
48:30 <Nothing\> mmm civet poobrew
48:57 <electrohead> I've had that, already
49:02 <electrohead> was actually pretty good, heh
49:09 <Nothing\> no shit? pun not intended
49:24 <electrohead> no shit.
49:26 <electrohead> :p
49:38 <electrohead> you can freely purchase it on amazon, nowadays
49:40 <Nothing\> i woulda figured it'd be one of those crappy (again no pun intended) things that people just pay lotsa money for because they're told it's expensive
49:49 <Nothing\> i wonder how legit it is though
50:00 <Nothing\> cuz that's like how they sell absinthe in the liquor stores here in canada
50:10 <Nothing\> but it has the thujone removed, so it's not psychedelic
50:26 <Nothing\> i think it's the wormwood that infuses it with thujone, i forget
50:47 <Nothing\> so you're basically paying out the ass for high proof booze that tastes like anise
51:00 <Nothing\> something like $80 for a bottle, lemme see
51:35 <Nothing\> https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo/lucid-absinthe-superieure-225938
51:36 <eevBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
51:38 <Nothing\> $70
51:48 <Nothing\> i like that eevbot gives titles for urls now
51:59 <Nothing\> he didn't used to do that until not long ago, did he?
52:28 <Nothing\> electrohead, your name always reminds me of electroboom
53:06 <Nothing\> actually that brings to mind an interesting conundrum i came across while watching one of his videos last night
53:37 <Nothing\> he was talking about making a cathode ray tube, so i started reading about cathodes and anodes cuz i was always confused about which is which polarity
53:47 <Nothing\> and everything i came across says the cathode is positive
53:55 <Nothing\> so why is it the one giving off electrons?
54:28 <Nothing\> other sites just said using conventional current flow it's the one giving off the charge
56:02 <rust_collector> well, WHY NOT!??!
56:08 <Nothing\> it's like that video of "self assembling wires" if you're seen that. The guy says the wire hanging above the petri dish is positively charged, but it gives off electrons. Which just confused the hell right out of me. I was thinking maybe it's repelling random electrons in the air.
56:29 <Guest|8331> whoo fixed it i think! highlighter replacing the & in tags
56:48 <Nothing\> i love highlighter ink for its fluorescence
56:50 <electrohead> Guest|8331: \o/
57:10 <Nothing\> i have a habit of drawing on myself with highlighters and then using a high powered UVA flashlight to light it all up
57:17 <rust_collector> party time!
57:36 <rust_collector> Nothing\ did you ever try to snort highlighters?
57:38 * electrohead lights up Nothing\ with his own wall of text
58:06 <Nothing\> https://scontent.fyyz1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/153357646_252410676462885_7708739586314623865_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=YK1vGvJg2WwAX9lBTZx&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyz1-2.fna&oh=8ceb2fedd5010f3c2d533ed53d215bc2&oe=60AB4906
58:31 <Nothing\> electrohead, sorry, you go a week or two without talking to anyone and suddenly you find you have a lot to say when you finally do talk to somebody
59:04 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol no but i remember some kids in grade 8 used to snort tylenol in the change rooms
59:31 <Nothing\> it's like "yeah, let's get liver damage faster and more effectively!"
00:12 <rust_collector> tylenol, that is like paracetamol?
00:23 <Nothing\> i also remember some kids trying to sniff magic markers and white out
00:28 <Nothing\> rust_collector, the very same
00:39 <rust_collector> well, it could be worse
00:59 <electrohead> I talk in this channel almost every day, Nothing\
01:02 <electrohead> :P
01:31 <Nothing\> electrohead, i used to come here every few days, but lately i've been kinda depressed so it's been more like every week or two
02:17 <Nothing\> seasonal depression's a bitch
02:36 <rust_collector> yeah, I also hate it when the sun returns
02:45 <Nothing\> especially when your shrink's trying to shove SSRIs and SNRIs like effexor, paxil, and zoloft down your throat
03:28 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah the one plus side i like about winter is there's this golden period of a few weeks around the solstice where i can have my sleeping pattern so i can go the entire period without ever having to see sunlight
03:48 <Nothing\> cuz here, the sun sets it like 4:30pm and rises at 8am
04:17 <Nothing\> whereas in the summer it sets at about 10pm and rises at 4:30-5am
04:25 <rust_collector> oh, it rises, that has to be annoying. here is rises in march, and goes down in october
04:43 <Nothing\> you live that far north?
04:52 <rust_collector> nah, not really.
04:55 <electrohead> Nothing\: I can be your therapist for you, if you want :p
05:01 <Nothing\> i always thought i'd flourish in an environment like that
05:20 <rust_collector> it is pretty special, I did spend some time up there.
05:24 <Nothing\> as long as i went to the other hemisphere when it started turning day time
05:37 <Nothing\> nice, you ever see the auroras?
05:48 <rust_collector> sure, we get those down here too.
05:58 <rust_collector> not as much as up there, but
06:02 <rust_collector> it happens
06:09 <Nothing\> electrohead, maybe you can explain why i have recurring dreams of my dead grandmother picking me up violently by my testicles
06:26 <electrohead> o.O
06:28 Quit: Guest|8331 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
06:32 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah we get em here once in a blue moon, but i've never seen em on account of light pollution
06:35 <rust_collector> that is just your pervy mind. nothing strange about that
06:35 <electrohead> did she ever do that to you, in real life?
06:51 <electrohead> and you scared someone away, lol
06:55 <Nothing\> but when i lived further north, on the shore of lake huron, which was to my north, there was no light pollution to drown them out
07:33 <Nothing\> and i lived just 2 blocks from the shoreline, so i'd always go out there and just stare out at the night. And one night I was fortunate enough to see the auroras over the water.
07:49 <Nothing\> there was no colour to them, though. It just looked like a buncha fast moving smoke.
08:05 <Nothing\> the best was watching thunderstorms come in over the water in the summer.
08:16 <rust_collector> Nothing\ I spent half of my time in the army here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Holmen+leir/@69.056812,18.7774518,7.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xd6b555c432123507!8m2!3d69.0262687!4d19.3068409
08:18 <eevBot> [Title] - Google Maps 
08:24 <Nothing\> lol electrohead no, she was very frail and elderly
08:27 <rust_collector> it was an interesting place
08:34 <Nothing\> but i have got a fear of my balls being touched
08:52 <rust_collector> just tape them up with good duct tape?
08:53 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i didn't realize you served. I know I should know this by now, but what country?
08:57 <Nothing\> i wanna say UK
09:08 <Nothing\> especially based on the paracetamol comment
09:11 <rust_collector> well, there is a map in that link...
09:15 <electrohead> lol
09:21 <rust_collector> it could give you a clue, lol
10:11 <Nothing\> norway?
10:15 <rust_collector> yeeez
10:22 <Nothing\> in any case, genuine thanks for your service, man
10:46 <Nothing\> even though I'm Canadian, I believe it's by our militaries working together that we can achieve peace and our goals
11:05 <Nothing\> so whatever country you're from, if you've served, you've got instant respect from me.
11:06 <rust_collector> nah, I was no good. I did think about doing somethign useful, but then they stopped that project, so...
11:22 <Nothing\> yeah my grandfather had that happen to him too
11:50 <Nothing\> he was fighting for the nazis and not doing much, but then they brought out this sorta kamikaze sub program that he volunteered for
11:57 <Nothing\> but the war ended before they could implement it
12:00 <rust_collector> but I sort of agree, you have to give restecpa to the people, but I do not have to agree with all they are made to do
12:04 <Nothing\> :P
13:26 <rust_collector> I signed up to go to kosovo, but yeah, I got to spend several millions on different machines, then they just said: Nah, we are not going to do that
13:32 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i've been watching this one channel called MrBallen if you're familiar. But if not, he tells these sorta scary and mysterious stories like stuff about missing people, ghosts, paranormal stuff, cold cases, etc and tells them in story format
13:54 <Nothing\> i watched his channel for like a month before i realized he was actually a damn NAVY SEAL at one point
14:19 <rust_collector> We used to go seal clubbing, it was good fun
14:19 <Nothing\> and I dunno if you've seen the training they do, but anyone who makes it through that kind of training instantly has my respect
14:28 <Nothing\> aww poor seals
14:44 <rust_collector> but so tasty baby seals
14:57 <rust_collector> warranty void if seal is broken
15:00 <Nothing\> well if it was for sustenance, i can't give you a hard time over it
15:07 <Nothing\> lol an oldy but a goody
15:13 <rust_collector> aye
15:44 <rust_collector> well, down here, there are too many seals, so they have to get rid of some, they say, so that is probably ok
16:04 <rust_collector> well, that was a few years ago, i don't know what it is like now
16:16 <Nothing\> you ever hear that story where pamela anderson and sam simon (one of the writers/creators of the simpsons) went to a sealing community in newfoundland and offered people $1 million to stop hunting seals
16:43 <rust_collector> heh.
16:43 <Nothing\> yeah, it's not like they're endangered
16:55 <rust_collector> there are many kinds of them
17:02 <Nothing\> they're just cute, which as we all know, makes them superior to all other animals
17:07 <rust_collector> yes
17:42 <Nothing\> nobody wants to save ugly, non-anthropomorphic animals
17:52 <rust_collector> some do
18:00 <rust_collector> but I get what you mean
18:01 <Nothing\> and those are the good ones
18:55 <Nothing\> jeez
19:06 <Nothing\> almost 2,000 hours of gameplay of this stupid game i have on steam
19:16 <Nothing\> somehow i got roped into an idle type game
19:42 <Nothing\> so i've basically just had it running since january some time
20:16 <Nothing\> tending to it every so often to click a few buttons when i prestige
20:26 <rust_collector> oh, why don't you pop over here for the second week of may? I am going on a trip again. I need someone to keep me awake
20:54 <Nothing\> only if i can earn exp for the amount of time you stay away
20:56 <Nothing\> awake
21:17 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure it will be an experience
21:27 <Nothing\> so, on another subject
21:52 <Nothing\> i was thinking of ordering one of those western design center CMOS 6502s
22:29 <Nothing\> i found some on mouser for like $10, but with shipping it's another $20 so I'm holding out till I can find something else worth buying
22:51 <rust_collector> and you want one?
23:21 <rust_collector> as in "one"
23:29 <Nothing\> unfortunately they haven't got any of the peripheral adapter chips or versatile interface adapter
23:34 <Nothing\> yeah, just one
23:52 <Nothing\> ben eater has a nice little video tutorial on how to make a hello world program on one from scratch
24:42 <Nothing\> though i'm assuming the cmos chips are pin compatible with the NMOS chips, which i have a couple of. So I could probably do it with the ones I have. Though I highly suspect those of being counterfeit.
25:50 <rust_collector> well, if you want to write hello wörld... it is probably good enough?
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27:01 <Nothing\> rust_collector, well the main goal isn't anything useful. it's more to explore the workings of the physical chip itself outside of an emulator and just to learn more about the science of it and all that good stuff
27:04 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/myyark/fast_and_furious/
27:04 <eevBot> [Title] - Too Many Requests
28:01 <Nothing\> electrohead, what in the hell was that guy trying to do? slide into a non-existent parking spot?
28:30 <rust_collector> is that what you call a rude awakening?
28:39 <electrohead> going too fast, heh
28:57 <Nothing\> rust_collector, like how julian ilett make this video where he turn a Z80 into blinken lights by tying all of the data lines high (or was it low?) so it was constantly performing a NOP every clock cycle
29:12 <Nothing\> then put some LEDs on the program counter and some other output pins
29:36 <Nothing\> rust_collector, more like a rude way to enter a coma
29:58 <Nothing\> oh hey, windows question for you guys
30:16 <rust_collector> no thanks
30:31 <Nothing\> when i save a shortcut in explorer into a folder to a url, is there any way to get windows to open the shortcut in chrome, rather than edge?
30:51 <Nothing\> and likewise when i click links in hexchat, is there any way to get it to open them in chrome, rather than edge?
31:38 <Nothing\> i tried looking around for file associations but came up short there for the urls in explorer
31:48 <rust_collector> probably possible somehow. but you probably have to set that after every damn update, just after you reinstall all your drivers and crap that was deleted for your safety, or something
32:04 <Nothing\> as for hexchat i'm guessing there's probably an option somewhere in it to change what browser it opens urls in
32:19 <Nothing\> heh
32:23 <rust_collector> and setting chrome as your default browser does not do it?
32:29 <Nothing\> nope
32:36 <Nothing\> you'd think it would, wouldn't you?
32:56 <rust_collector> well, no, if it was a sane OS, then yes, but no
33:16 <Nothing\> lol
33:25 <rust_collector> why do you want to use chrome anyway?
33:35 <Nothing\> cuz it's served me well for many years
33:50 <Nothing\> and seems easy on resource usage, which used to be an issue on older computers
33:54 <rust_collector> sure, but... they are getting very similar now?
33:55 <Nothing\> so... habit?
34:04 <Nothing\> what are?
34:09 <Nothing\> chrome and firefox?
34:21 <rust_collector> why said anything about firefox?
34:35 <Nothing\> i dunno i thought taht's what you were going to recommend
35:22 <rust_collector> edge-chromium, or chrome-chromium... and I think edge has the edge in a way, in windows anyway
35:22 <Nothing\> but yeah i do recall coming across an article recently about how chrome is notorious for privacy concerns and things of that nature
35:53 <Nothing\> but that was more aimed at chrome on iphone
37:31 <rust_collector> I just think that is you want a chromium based browser in windows, the one they make for it is not too horrible, I think? you can use the same addon stuff...
38:00 <Nothing\> ooohhh okay
38:18 <Nothing\> you need to include the browser you want the url to be opened in in the link in the shortcut you're making
39:01 <Nothing\> so like
39:03 <Nothing\> “C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe” https://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html
39:04 <eevBot> [Title] - 
39:39 <rust_collector> heh, yes, that is handy....
40:33 <rust_collector> if you press "open with" blah blah, does it remember that to the next time?
41:05 <Nothing\> there is no option to open with lol
41:16 <Nothing\> it's like they thought ahead with that one
42:24 <rust_collector> eh? heh
42:41 <rust_collector> well, I installed xp the other day. things are good
43:27 <rust_collector> so, are you coming for your points, or not?
44:09 <rust_collector> we are driving 1400-1500 miles or so. we have 2 days to get it done. you will be home in an extended weekend
47:10 <Nothing\> bah, i dunno
47:24 <Nothing\> i tried what i said and it just keeps saying it can't find blah blha blah
47:24 <rust_collector> we will go past "cheese house"
47:26 <Nothing\> so fuggit
47:43 <Nothing\> man, i couldn't drive that long without being full of sedatives
47:45 <Nothing\> i'd go batty
48:06 <rust_collector> meh, you just have to zone out, and do it
48:07 <Lemon> what is the difference between an impedance analyzer and a lcr meter ? I don't fully understand
48:41 <Nothing\> Lemon, an LCR meter measures the actual values of an inductor, capacitor, or resistor
48:52 <Nothing\> impedance analyzer, i couldn't tell you
48:59 <Nothing\> sounds like it has to do with RF
49:14 <Lemon> yeah I know about the lcr meter, but looking at the impedance analyzer it seems to do pretty much the same things
49:42 <Nothing\> hrm sorry man, i wish i could tell you more about them but truth be told, I've never even heard of one.
49:42 <Lemon> instead of buying shit I won't use I will start to save for a nice one
49:46 <Nothing\> RF isn't my strong suit
49:49 <Lemon> ho no worries !
49:53 <Lemon> RF is black magic
49:55 <Lemon> lets be honest
50:00 <rust_collector> I don't think it has to be rf...
50:10 <Nothing\> then what's that make THZ, Lemon?
50:19 <Nothing\> and mm wave
50:36 <Nothing\> god powerz?
50:49 <Lemon> black magic !
50:54 <Lemon> fully black magic :P
50:57 <Nothing\> man, i should make a PLL
51:06 <Lemon> permute last layer ?
51:12 <Nothing\> i've got so many PLL ICs, but I've never once made one
51:14 <Lemon> you do rubik cubes ? :>
51:22 <rust_collector> I suspect an impedance thingie can be used at a range of frequencies, and the lcr meter probably uses one or two "common" frequencies?
51:24 <Nothing\> lol a phase locked loop
51:29 <rust_collector> but I dunno?
51:31 <Nothing\> but yeah, i learned cubing to a bare minimum
51:46 <Nothing\> which is, i learned the beginners way of solving it and then lost interest
52:00 <Nothing\> and have long since forgotten all of it
52:21 <rust_collector> just peel the stickers off those who do not fit in
52:38 <rust_collector> paint it black
52:38 <Nothing\> lol i used to just pull the cubes out and reassemble them
52:42 <Lemon> haha im joking :P
52:52 <rust_collector> rgb rubiks cubes should be a thing
52:53 <Lemon> I did spend a lot of time modding them a few years ago
53:04 <Nothing\> i found out accidentally that my cube actually glows in the dark
53:08 <Lemon> stopped at maybe 25sec on avg, which is meh
53:30 <Lemon> I have a prety nice collection of maybe 2-250 specimens in boxes
53:32 <Lemon> pretty
53:53 <rust_collector> stack them up, and use them as a wall decoration
53:53 <Lemon> yes I know
53:57 <Nothing\> i was lying in bed one night in the pitch black and once my eyes adjusted to the darkness, out of the corner of my eye I could see this weird blue/green glow faintly in the corner of my room
54:00 <Lemon> I tend to exaggerate with everything I do xd
54:11 <Nothing\> so i approached it, being careful not to trip on anything along the way
54:11 <Lemon> yeah I need a nice furniture to store them
54:16 <Nothing\> and realized it was my damn cube lol
54:23 <Lemon> haha nice one :>
54:28 <Nothing\> i got an actual rubik's brand cube, which suck ass btw
54:35 <rust_collector> just glue them to the wall
54:59 <Nothing\> spent like 2 hours filing, sanding and lubing that bitch just to get it into working order so it wouldn't jam every other move i make
55:39 <Lemon> haaa man the research of the perfect cube
55:59 <Lemon> spending hours testing various lube's viscosity, using different magnets, and placement
56:04 <Lemon> I loved it
57:08 <rust_collector> I still think you should make an rgb cube.... that would be so annoying. especially if you programmed it to change the colours in some pattern, so you had to keep that in mind as you are twisting it
57:29 <Lemon> I think it exists
57:40 <rust_collector> nope
57:43 <Lemon> well there is some cubes that are programmable already
59:41 <Lemon> rust_collector I think this model is what I should aim at, it will certainly take time to save up the money tho https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32488268754.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.33947c19yGZzko&algo_pvid=029bccc8-4687-4a9a-a6bc-dfb91183cc16&algo_expid=029bccc8-4687-4a9a-a6bc-dfb91183cc16-1&btsid=0b0a0ac216194397776572912e718b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
59:43 <eevBot> [Title] - Tonghui – compteur LCR portatif TH2830, précision 0.05%, fréquence du signal de test 50Hz 100kHz,34 points | AliExpress
01:30 <rust_collector> yeah. that should take some time
02:14 <Lemon> well im looking at an older gpu for 50-100 euros, like a hd 7970 or something like that (im not gaming besides tibia, which is a really low-end game) and sell my 1080
02:29 <Lemon> I paid 200 euros for it like 1.5 years ago, and now they sell at 500+ on ebay due to crisis
02:45 <Lemon> and tbh, I don't mind racking some cash if people are crazy enough to pay that much for a 3-4 gen behind gpu
03:18 <Lemon> 2 or 3 gens actually
03:22 <Lemon> I lost track
04:01 <rust_collector> I am so happy I do not heed a graphics card, lol
04:51 <Lemon> yeah dude thats fucking crazy lately
05:08 <Lemon> so yeah I dont need a crazy one either, I found a 7970 for 60 euros, I asked the guy
05:21 <Lemon> if he accepts paypal/to send it, im taking it and I put my 1080 on ebay
05:29 <MrMobodies> Hello
05:30 <eevBot> Hello, MrMobodies!
05:35 <MrMobodies> Is Dave an artist?
05:37 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/4Y0c4KC.jpg
05:37 <Lemon> if I can sell it for 400-500 im the happiest mofo around
05:41 <Lemon> yo !
05:54 <MrMobodies> I have been tired for some days
06:17 <MrMobodies> it seems when someone needs my help they are really desperate and want things immediately
06:40 <MrMobodies> so I have been up for like over 2 days and got some better sleep only last night
06:50 <MrMobodies> I didn't know Dave Jones did art
07:22 <MrMobodies> Looks to me like he sketching something
07:26 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/4Y0c4KC.jpg
10:11 <MrMobodies> sorry to ruin your conversation
11:11 <rust_collector> why do you think dave drew that?
14:33 <Hsn> rust_collector, dave cad
14:40 <MrMobodies> I don't know
15:24 <MrMobodies> pictures on the left side of the wall and one on top of that
15:49 <MrMobodies> one on the table at the back
16:07 <MrMobodies> oh sorry it is wrong of me to assume
16:12 <rust_collector> well, I am sure plenty of people send him stuff. I am at least pretty sure that I drew exactly 0% of the drawings on my walls
16:15 <MrMobodies> someone could have drawn them for Dave to put up in his lab
16:27 <MrMobodies> nd they are just sitting there for that
17:29 <MrMobodies> it was the way they were around that table where that got me assuming
17:52 <MrMobodies> I like videos like these
17:54 <MrMobodies> EEVblog 1388 - Dumpster Diving 4K TV Murphy's "Repair"
18:06 <MrMobodies> it's all mystery to me until he finds that fault
18:36 <MrMobodies> which is a dead short somewhere
19:11 <Lemon> yeah they are interesting thats true
19:29 <Lemon> im curious about why most dmm got a slow continuity test
19:41 <Lemon> flukes are usually good, well not my cheapo 101
19:46 <rust_collector> I think I will go short my capacitor on stuff again
19:50 <Lemon> I mean, how hard is it to make an instant one ?
23:31 <Lemon> there must be a reason
23:41 <Lemon> I'd love one that is really, really instantaneous
24:00 <Lemon> its super annoying to slow down when you sweep an ic
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26:21 <MrMobodies> I have a question about dry capacitors
26:47 <MrMobodies> what would happen if I stick a needle in there and pump ionised water
27:09 <MrMobodies> I mean when I suspect they have dried up inside
27:44 <rust_collector> are you sure the stuff is water based?
28:55 <rust_collector> but, I am pretty sure they would not get worse than if they are dry?
29:37 <MrMobodies> I was think of lead batteries when they could be topped up with ionised water
29:46 <rust_collector> sure
29:51 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAQClL3bZzg
29:51 <MrMobodies> and whether the same could be applied to a capacitor
29:51 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Adding electrolyte to a fake (dry) capacitor.
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30:27 <MrMobodies> aaah thank you
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30:46 <MrMobodies> I have not seen that before despite the many from BigClive
30:59 <MrMobodies> I'll see that after the video
31:04 <MrMobodies> the TV one
33:00 <rust_collector> I guess the answer is.... it depends?
34:09 <rust_collector> hah! I shorted my cap on some metal thing in the table, and now the wife forgot the pin for her phone
34:42 <rust_collector> it is pretty impressive how much spark it can make with just 30 volts
45:51 <Lemon> yeah I had fun when I was younger
46:23 <Lemon> I was putting a lot in series/parallel, charging them with one of those throwable cameras circuit
46:38 <Lemon> and discharging them on various things, melting screwdrivers, coca cans etc
46:40 <Lemon> my fingers
47:25 <rust_collector> hmmm... do you have any piercings?
50:12 <rust_collector> ok, maybe it was mean to mention that...
02:59 <Lemon> no piercings no :>
03:15 <rust_collector> aww
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16:48 <Nothing\> lol i made a paper airplane for my cats. They absolutely love it
17:07 <Nothing\> rust_collector, heh i've seen that big clive video
17:40 <Nothing\> taht reminds me, my mom found an 8gb harddrive on Wish.com for $20 and change the other day
17:41 <rust_collector> are you sure? don't you think it is just natural instinct to try to hold on, if you are sent flying on something?
18:00 <Nothing\> lol
18:08 <rust_collector> 8... that is not much space?
19:26 <Nothing\> er, tb
19:28 <Nothing\> not gb
19:29 <Nothing\> my bad
19:32 <rust_collector> oh
19:36 <Nothing\> yeha lol
19:51 <Nothing\> but it probably IS just a buncha 8gb flash drives
20:15 <rust_collector> it is an external drive?
21:28 <Nothing\> yeah, usb 2/3
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31:35 <Nothing\> lol decided to play some ftl
31:57 <rust_collector> fatter than lard is great fun
32:22 <Nothing\> first encounter i have is next to an unstable star that keeps exploding and destroying my ship's systems including o2 while i'm trying to fight off an enemy ship
32:47 <Nothing\> so after the fight i immediately try to repair the o2 generator, but it was too late and everyone suffocated
33:12 <Nothing\> it is a fun game, though
33:20 <Nothing\> fun enough that i bought it legit
33:29 <Nothing\> which i've been doing a lot lately for some reason
33:48 <Nothing\> i've always pirated games from 1998 until just a few months ago
33:57 <rust_collector> they don't have oxygen generating candles?
33:58 <Nothing\> now all of a sudden I can't stop buying games on steam
34:10 <Nothing\> nah i'm start starting
34:17 <Nothing\> i didn't know they had those in FTL
34:26 <Nothing\> i mean, i've heard of oxygen generating candles
34:29 <Nothing\> they use em in subs
34:44 <Nothing\> i've even seen em used on american subs in an episode of smarter every day
34:50 <rust_collector> maybe you should buy some. I dunno?
34:57 <Nothing\> destin does a whole series aboard an american sub
35:29 <Nothing\> it's pretty cool to see how it all works. or at least what we're allowed to see
36:27 <Nothing\> oh cool
36:45 <Nothing\> this location for mouser is in a city i used to live in, like 30 mins from here
36:52 <Nothing\> i should see if they have a brick and mortar shop
37:19 <Nothing\> or if i can save myself shipping and just pick my order up
38:26 <Nothing\> btw rust_collector have you ever seen this site/game before?
38:28 <Nothing\> https://microcorruption.com/
38:57 <rust_collector> nope
39:03 <Nothing\> it's a pretty cool game you play in your browser where you use assembly to hack into electronic locks
39:22 <Nothing\> based on an MSP430
40:08 <Nothing\> definitely one of the more unique games i've come across. Even in the programming genre.
41:28 <Nothing\> or there's this that i found last night
41:31 <Nothing\> http://www.bitsavers.org/components/motorola/_dataBooks/1974_MECL_Integrated_Circuits_Series_A_Vol4.pdf
41:46 <Nothing\> a databook on motorola's emitter coupled logic chips
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44:37 <steve30> hi
47:45 <steve30> i think i finally slept well
48:59 <rust_collector> that has to be nice
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49:21 <rust_collector> have some coffee and.. a baguette
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43:51 <Nothing\> i am a meat popsicle
50:45 <electrohead> that's what he said.
31:26 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/a/A0mPrdc
31:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
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36:25 <Nothing\> gah, every time i go to check out mouser's products the site just hangs forever, then gives me an error
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36:56 <Nothing\> i really would like to add more things to my order so I'm not paying $20 shipping on a $10 order
37:52 <Nothing\> screwt, i'll wait till tomorrow and try again
02:49 <steve30> Maybe I should go out for a walk
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03:00 <Seng> Hey, I want something that, when I press a push button a cap will quickly charge up and slowly discharge through some LED's making a "pulse" effect. I tried making this schematic in LTSpice https://hurtig.ninja/2fa243de/image-png
03:01 <eevBot> [Title] - Hurtig Ninja - image.png
03:44 <Seng> I get a negative spike on the falling edge - does that matter for my application? I placed D1 to avoid that, but it seemingly doesn't change anything.
06:20 <Seng> Iv don't know if it matters, but the scale of the graph is +5 and -5 volts at the V(out) peaks
07:04 <T3sl4> Seng: there's a couple of things to consider there
07:27 <T3sl4> one, you probably don't want to use a huge ass cap for the actual timing
07:52 <T3sl4> two, how does the LED actually fade? the answer may surprise you (gamma correction, logarithmic visual response)
07:58 <T3sl4> or, how should
08:13 <Seng> I mean, it's not hard to make on a breadboard :P
08:57 <T3sl4> you may find it's easier to do it with the waveform into a common-emitter amplifier, and then you aren't wasting much power clamping the negative peak with a diode
09:10 <Seng> But I'm lazy, and supposed to work, so I'm trying to not pick up the breadboard and get carried away right now <3
09:36 <T3sl4> the transistor can be modified with resistors and diodes around it, to change its curve to get more of a quadratic response perhaps, which should look more convincing
10:17 <T3sl4> or for high efficiency as well, just load everything into an MCU and PWM it :)
10:45 <T3sl4> it can get surprisingly involved, so it depends how good you want the fade to look
10:50 <Seng> A requirement I made was no MCU's :D
11:22 <Seng> I want to learn about electronics, not programming microcontrollers :)
11:37 <Seng> I wan't it to look badass B)
13:27 <T3sl4> LEDs are kinda cute to me, shrug
15:03 <Seng> Mix the cute LED's with my childish soldering skills and you have something that looks like it was made by a 6 year old :D
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17:38 <Seng> What kind of keywords should I search for to archive my goal with a transistor, T3sl4 ? I'm don't really understand what you just tried to tell me :b
17:59 <T3sl4> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/amplifier/amp_2.html
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18:09 <eevBot> [Title] - Common Emitter Amplifier and Transistor Amplifiers
18:23 <T3sl4> probably without C2, but like i said, other stuff can be connected there
18:33 <T3sl4> and RL would be in series with the LED
21:06 <Seng> (Y)
21:30 <Seng> (That's a thumb up, if you remember the days of MSN Messenger)
23:01 <T3sl4> that takes me back
26:35 <K> hello muffins
26:36 <eevBot> Hello, K!
27:50 * T3sl4 nibbles on K
28:14 <K> hope you like raisins
29:09 <T3sl4> oh it's raisin alright
29:18 <T3sl4> (lennyface)
31:23 <K> :|
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19:16 <Seng> I love how there's obviously a channel OP that's named Steve. Does it get any more Australian than that?
19:57 <T3sl4> yes
20:06 <T3sl4> cuz he's uk :P
39:35 <Seng> He should either move or change name to something more English, like Richard or Monty.
42:01 <K> needs more english!
42:48 * T3sl4 spins K round, right round baby
46:47 <Halcyon> Evening all
47:00 <T3sl4> hicyon
47:03 <Halcyon> :)
47:14 <Halcyon> What's doing?
47:34 <T3sl4> not much
48:20 <K> im not rotund!
48:57 <K> that is a great word
49:19 <T3sl4> curvaceous?
50:16 <T3sl4> gormand?
50:26 <Halcyon> Cous cous?
51:00 <K> ROTUND
51:26 * T3sl4 seats K in the rotunda
52:57 <K> with a tutu ?
54:24 <Halcyon> Oh T3sl4 did I tell you I got my second Pfizer shot? I have full 5G now \o/
54:27 <T3sl4> yes, those are rotund too
54:29 <Halcyon> Although now China can listen to my calls
54:53 * T3sl4 coughs at Halcyon with wreckless abandon
59:57 * Halcyon throws firm tofu at T3sl4 
00:13 * T3sl4 throws soy sauce and chili at Halcyon
00:20 <Halcyon> Oh yes :P
00:29 <Halcyon> Goes well with the tofu
29:50 <Lemon> yoyo
32:03 <K> lolo
33:16 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
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41:35 <Lemon> hmmmm so when my tds540 is connected via gpib, if I do a hardcopy and hit "read response" I get a long string of char, it m eans it works
41:46 <Lemon> but the hardcopy software can't capture it for some reasons
42:16 <Halcyon> At least it works :)
42:40 <Lemon> yes lol exactly
42:46 <Lemon> I need to figure out how to read it as a bmp
43:59 <T3sl4> if nothing else, capture binary and dump it into *.bmp
44:21 <Lemon> well it looks like this x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B??x0B?
45:06 <Halcyon> Weird
45:11 <Lemon> but super long
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45:21 <Halcyon> Is that meant to be a bitmap image?
45:24 <Lemon> maybe keysight IO is struggling to read it properly as well
45:28 <T3sl4> like with my gpib serial, i can send +read and pipe the terminal into capture.bmp
45:31 <Lemon> yes its supposed to be
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45:39 <T3sl4> Halcyon: bitmaps are binary data, so... :P
45:48 <Halcyon> Everything is binary data
45:49 <Halcyon> :P
45:59 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a 2
46:07 * Halcyon explodes
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47:06 <Lemon> yeah but this strings looks like nothing
47:15 <Lemon> if it was a realy picture it would be different things no ?
47:19 <Lemon> not the same thing over and over again
47:38 <T3sl4> well there'll be lots of 0's or ff's because of white or black patches
48:17 <K> 0x0B wold be something rather blackish
48:29 <T3sl4> a few lines to the right anyway
48:52 <T3sl4> format should be 2-color bitmap, 1 bit per pixel, packed
49:02 <T3sl4> so, the bits are the pixels in a row, or col if it's portrait idk
49:27 <Lemon> hmmm I translated it to binary, and it looks different
49:32 <Lemon> its not the same string over and over again
49:41 <Lemon> but yeah its B&W
49:43 <Lemon> thats normal
51:13 <T3sl4> mind terminal settings, like if it's dropping 0's because NUL is NULL, or doubling/dropping/translating 0x0a/0x0d, or translating >0x80 because utf or w/e
51:27 <T3sl4> or really, altering anything <0x20 because control chars
52:11 <Lemon> im trying to convert it online to see
52:44 <Lemon> but it seems to be always the same thing
53:02 <T3sl4> the first bytes should be "BM" and mostly zeroes in the header
54:11 <Lemon> hmm it takes a long time to convert it
58:27 <Lemon> yeah ok it simply took my binary file and pasted it in an image lol
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29:35 <K> success ?
32:20 <Lemon> nah
32:23 <Lemon> cant do anything
32:30 <Lemon> it outputs something but it seems to be only shit
32:40 <Lemon> and the tds hardcopy software doesnt work
32:44 <Lemon> well it timeouts
33:52 <K> hm, can your receiver receive fast enough?
34:09 <Lemon> well it seems as it only takes a few seconds
34:15 <K> that is - can you read from input buffer fast enough?
34:49 <K> how about reading from buffer and writing bytes directly to a file?
35:12 <Lemon> I have no idea how to do this :/
35:16 <Lemon> im reading about it
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03:25 <Lemon> I cant even find a list of commands for that scope
03:31 <Lemon> its not in the manual
06:50 <T3sl4> https://www.tek.com/manual/tds-family-programmer-manual
06:52 <eevBot> [Title] - TDS Family Programmer Manual | Tektronix
07:59 <T3sl4> dunno if anyone has a copy of earlier or model-specific versions of this doc. so, there's a lot of cmds in there that aren't on, like, my 460 (not -A)
08:03 <T3sl4> just gotta try em and see
09:49 <Lemon> thanks bud im going to try
09:53 <Lemon> mine is a tds 540
09:57 <Lemon> seems its also not there
14:08 <Lemon> I need to find a basic command
14:11 <Lemon> just to see if it works
14:18 <Lemon> because it seems it timeouts everytime
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20:32 <Lemon> nothing works
20:46 <Lemon> thats weird because hardcopy "works" as I can read a string the scope outputed
20:57 <Lemon> but I can't send him any command (I did config it on talk/listen)
22:02 <T3sl4> don't think i ever got user hardcopy (scope talking) to work, but it works when told to
22:17 <T3sl4> HARDC STAR; +read
25:20 <Lemon> well im trying things like CLEARMenu
25:24 <Lemon> but nope nothing works
25:26 <Lemon> it timeouts
27:00 <T3sl4> gotta figure out where it's timing out at, the instrument or the stack
27:00 <Lemon> I tried doing it with a python program but same issue
28:27 <T3sl4> like into a virtual com port, or the same libs?
28:49 <Lemon> hehhh
29:06 <Lemon> I dont know ? I simply did a "open ressource manager, set gpib adress" and send the command
29:15 <Lemon> via keysight IO its not working, same issue
29:22 <Lemon> other instruments works
29:35 <Lemon> but I manage to receive something from the scope
29:41 <Lemon> I just can't send it anything
29:44 <Lemon> which is weird
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05:36 <Lemon> ok so now im trying stuff with the fluke 8502a
05:50 <Lemon> its weird because with the keysight IO I can send a command and read it perfectly
06:09 <Lemon> but trying a little python script that is working for the 3456a (with some modifed commands for the fluke) doesnt work
36:27 <Lemon> I dont get it
36:36 <Lemon> when I try with keysight IO, I can send commands, read them etc it works
36:53 <Lemon> with python, if I do a simple rm = visa.ResourceManager()
36:53 <Lemon> dvm = rm.open_resource('GPIB1::5::INSTR')
36:59 <Lemon> for the 3456a it works
37:04 <Lemon> but the fluke it directly timeouts
44:08 <Lemon> I can connect to it via keysight IO, but python can't
44:16 <Lemon> with python however I can connect to others fine
44:23 <Lemon> I can even see the one im trying to connect to
13:38 <Lemon> how is it possible that keysight IO can connect to it but not pyvisa
13:43 <Lemon> seriously its driving me freaking crazy
13:44 <Lemon> :(
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