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18:39 <hsn> https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJMRC7t2/
18:42 <hsn> Yes
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21:21 <K> it is a hsn
27:26 <T3sl4> ew tiktok
27:48 <Ampera> ^
27:57 <Ampera> easily the worst site on the internet today
29:13 <hsn> But it has bideos
30:12 <electrohead> the bot should send out a warning not to use tiktok, whenever someone posts a tiktok video
30:44 <electrohead> and, good morning :p
31:42 <Ampera> even better
31:51 <Ampera> instakick when people post links to tiktok
31:56 <electrohead> heh
33:43 <smb784> tiktok seems like its mostly just amateur porn videos and white nationalists
35:21 <Ampera> It's a data scraping mission from China
35:56 <Ampera> supposedly the app is built like a puzzle and has 13 different herbs, spices, and telemetries that it sends back home to the land of the rising communism
44:44 <hsn> Ampera, thats racist bot
47:33 <K> hm, how is that racist?
49:51 <nrx> you're replying to a spambot
50:13 <K> that is harsh
50:27 <Ampera> China isn't a race, it's a country
50:34 <Ampera> which wishes China was a race
51:04 <nrx> their comment was sort of on topic (even if wrong), but their previous comment was a spam link
51:15 <nrx> imo they failed the turing test :)
51:29 <Ampera> you're talking about hsn?
51:32 <nrx> yes
51:32 <Ampera> no he's a regular here
52:10 <Ampera> just goes to show, not all humans can pass a turing test
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18:57 <hsn> lol
19:30 * Ampera hugs hsn 
19:32 <Ampera> how are you doing hsn
19:39 <hsn> K, any bot built by K is racist against humans :D
19:41 <Ysjoelfir> whats going on here?
19:46 <hsn> im great and how u doing ?
19:48 <Ysjoelfir> I heard racism
19:55 <hsn> got my self few more days off :P
19:57 <K> i didnt build no bot!
20:00 <Ysjoelfir> I was not involved, thats not allowed!
20:06 <hsn> K, ops , by ampera
20:22 <K> not any bot that has been in here anyways
20:26 <electrohead> lol
20:39 <hsn> 42, K!
20:50 <K> no u.
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20:56 <electrohead> No, you're a towel.
21:04 <hsn> im towel ?
21:23 <Ampera> now /that's/ racist
21:46 <electrohead> It's a south park joke :p
21:56 <K> south is racist.
22:03 <K> (ducks)
22:21 <hsn> racist exist ?
22:47 <Ampera> no racists don't exist, racism is propaganda by big racist to sell more racism
22:55 <hsn> yes!
23:03 <hsn> i mean last time humans wanted to remove "blacklist" "slave master" words from linux code .. is that still a thing ?
23:06 <hsn> what the hell
23:22 <Ampera> yeah, because people can't look at the word "black" without being racist
23:36 <hsn> thats racist coders out there
23:40 <hsn> need to be slaved
23:41 <Ampera> slavery also isn't even racist
23:57 <K> blacklist i sorta get
24:01 <K> master/slave - not so much
24:07 <Ampera> it's a concept that's existed around the world since the dawn of humanity and has been suffered against basically every race
24:17 <Ampera> blacklist makes no sense
24:19 <Ampera> black is a color
24:23 <Ampera> my telephone is black
24:29 <Ampera> that doesn'
24:40 <Ampera> t mean it's automatically to do with race
25:02 <hsn> drag race ?
25:23 <Ampera> and I honestly have to question the integrity of a person who looks at the word "blacklist" and can't control themselves in associating it with human beings
26:29 <K> i aint opnenin that can
26:41 <electrohead> same
32:04 <hsn> Yeah .. exactly thats .. Ampera
33:16 <hsn> U r now whitelisted
55:28 <electrohead> y'all might like this - https://github.com/Ottercast/OtterCastAudioV2
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17:19 <K> do you have one, electrohead ?
17:58 <electrohead> no, but definitely thinking in the future about building one
18:07 <electrohead> just for the hell of it
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34:37 <DHess_US> My space shotgun is finished. https://i.ibb.co/d29QZ0d/870-Space-Shotgun.jpg
34:51 <Ampera> nice
35:57 <DHess_US> Well, almost finished. I can put a second weapon light on the rail on the other side so it has dual weapon lights. But other than that, it is finished.
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38:47 <Ampera> I've never seen a shotgun with a bayonet on it
43:18 <bdunham7> So I'm a bit worried--I just logged on and we're talking about bayonets on shotguns? :o Is the datacenter outage actually the beginning of the zombie apocalypse? b/t/w, the US military does, or did, have shotguns with bayonets.
44:29 <Ampera> I'm sure it's been done
44:36 <Ampera> No, we're gearing up to take back the forums by force
46:18 <bdunham7> I was thinking a few of us could head up to Ogden and rescue the server(s), take it (them) someplace safe and plug them in. It looks like the current outfit has some issues.
46:19 <coppice> bdunham7: no point in wasting a cartridge when you are close enough to stab the pheasant
47:00 <Ampera> coppice, don't you mean peasant?
47:22 <coppice> Ampera: well, I do, but its not PC to say that
47:33 <Ampera> then say it on a mac
47:51 <coppice> ooh, a highland pheasant
53:07 * mnem continues lrrrking for safety and sanity's sake*
54:14 <Ampera> sanity? who needs sanity.
54:51 <electrohead> people like all of us?
54:52 <electrohead> :p
55:22 <Ampera> you're not people, you're all virtual and online
55:25 <Ampera> you don't actually exist
55:26 <mnem> ***a dwagon can dweam...***
58:04 <coppice> you're all just brains in jars on a shelf on the set of The Man With Two Brains
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58:19 <Ampera> coppice, how many brains did he have?
59:00 <coppice> Ampera: have you never seen that movie? its a good one
00:10 <arch> i need to make a high power constant current load before i can properly test load transient responses, smh
01:26 <DHess_US> Ampera, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1897#Military_use
02:12 <DHess_US> The magazine extension for the 870 is specifically designed to mount an M7 or M9 bayonet.
04:25 <DHess_US> This is the piece which civilian 870s are missing, https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vinatge-military-remington-870-25551127
05:59 <DHess_US> https://gastatic.com/digest/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mk.-1-with-M7-bayonet.png
09:59 <DHess_US> <bdunham7> So I'm a bit worried--I just logged on and we're talking about bayonets on shotguns? :o Is the datacenter outage actually the beginning of the zombie apocalypse? b/t/w, the US military does, or did, have shotguns with bayonets.
11:10 <DHess_US> I live in the US. Last year it was BLM and Antifa riots. Civil unrest is likely after the Chauvin trial.
11:55 <Ampera> Portland is still on fire
12:01 <Ampera> not that that's a surprise
12:06 <DHess_US> And then there is our current administration beating the civil war drums.
12:27 <Ampera> DHess_US, what do you mean by that
12:34 <DHess_US> All of my family is from Oregon.
13:03 <DHess_US> Ampera, last year was filled with various Democrats advocating civil unrest, and now they are talking about gun confiscation.
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13:37 <Ampera> The civil unrest is unprecedented, but democrats have been advertising gun confiscation for years
14:01 <DHess_US> Well, they have stepped it up and are in a position to try and enforce it.
14:17 <Ampera> That's what happens when you get a one party state
14:53 <Ampera> That being said, people yelled that civil war was inevitable with Trump, and that went nowhere.
15:00 <DHess_US> Plus labeling everything bad as "white supremacists", including every recent shooting.
15:10 <Ampera> That's the media's fault
15:30 <Ampera> They can't use Trump so much to drive up their engagement figures
15:31 <DHess_US> None were committed by "white supremacists", which apparently means "white supremacists" drove them to it.
15:40 <Ampera> so they have to go to the old classic of sensationalizing shootings and racism
16:05 <DHess_US> Doesn't matter if the media is pushing that because the Democrats are endorsing that view.
16:46 <Ampera> Politicians are always endorsing some inane bullshit.
17:03 <Ampera> The problem is how easy it's sticking to people now
17:23 <DHess_US> But now they are in a position to use the force of law to act on it.
18:08 <DHess_US> And when I say "force", I mean exactly that. At the end of every law are men with guns.
18:10 <Ampera> The thing about whenever the parties take control of the fed, is they are usually so disorganized and divided by the time they get there, they don't usually get their big scary legislation through anyways
18:33 <Ampera> I see no different, Biden is on record pace with making enemies in his own party
18:49 <DHess_US> This changes things, https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
19:04 <DHess_US> I said about a year ago that that was going on and was called paranoid.
19:44 <DHess_US> Biden isn't likely to finish his term. Based on her history in California, Harris is much worse.
20:28 <DHess_US> As a prosecutor, Harris never met an innocents person.
20:59 <Ampera> I wondered if pushing Biden into the office was a sneak way to get the seal flipper clapping about our first female president
21:14 <Ampera> because Biden has an expiry date like milk that's on clearance
21:34 <Ampera> I don't know much about Harris, but any politician coming out of the west has me worried
22:14 <DHess_US> https://reason.com/2018/01/09/kamala-harris-went-to-bat-for-dirty-pros/
22:40 <DHess_US> Standard prosecutor stuff but taken to an extreme.
22:47 <DHess_US> Routine Brady violations, etc.
24:26 <Ampera> DHess_US, can you tl;dr your point with that TIME article for me?
24:45 <Ampera> it's massive and while I read the preamble, I'm more wondering what specifically you're getting at
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25:34 <DHess_US> There was a conspiracy started after Trump won the 2016 election to prevent him from winning reelection, which Google admitted in video back in 2016.
26:06 <DHess_US> The conspiracy included various media outlets, but also companies like Google and Twitter and Facebook.
27:02 <DHess_US> And it also included actors within the government which is what led to this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page#Lawsuit
27:33 <DHess_US> Just little stuff like lying to the FISA court, etc.
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27:41 <Ampera> Lots of heavy statements and conspiracy and counterconspiracy here
27:57 <Ampera> and is honestly why I don't pay attention too much to politics anymore
28:26 <Ampera> because I am dozens of contexts and understandings away from having any idea what's going on, and even if I spent hours figuring it out, it would be useless to me anyways
28:45 <DHess_US> They had to find someone to fall on their sword on that once, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_General_report_on_the_Crossfire_Hurricane_investigation
28:50 <Ampera> I'm under the general impression government, and in general, elections, are an arms race of tomfuckery and who can fuck the other guy over the fastest
29:14 <DHess_US> That sums it up. I agree.
29:40 <DHess_US> I was watching carefully after Google said they wouldn't let Trump win 4 years ago.
29:50 <Ampera> Maybe later in life I'll spend the time to shore up my understanding of law and politics, but honestly it'd be a hobby.
30:43 <Ampera> people are going to be finding a way to fuck with the numbers no matter what I know, and my vote might as well be a statistical poll
30:48 <DHess_US> And then you get to shenanigans like the Wisconsin secretary of state telling the court that while the election statute required her to collect video of the drop off centers, there was no requirement that he preserve the video or let anybody see it.
31:50 <Ampera> I think ultimately the worst thing that can happen is for the fed to get bigger, and state government to get more and more irrelevant. Keeping up with state politics is like keeping up with a country to begin with
32:00 <DHess_US> The Trump lawsuits were dismissed for lack of *standing* and not because of lack of evidence.
32:07 <Ampera> when you have a big fat country of 50 countries and a handful of territories, each of them with their own special bullshit
32:30 <DHess_US> When was the last time the fed got smaller?
32:43 <Ampera> War of 1812 when they burned a little bit of it down
32:44 <DHess_US> Never since at least the Great Society.
33:11 <DHess_US> And notice that we have them threatening to pack the court again. It worked that time, so why not now?
33:34 <coppice> DHess_US: not all for standing, but all for some technical reason, rather than evidence
33:36 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Procedures_Reform_Bill_of_1937
33:44 <DHess_US> coppice, that *is* standing
34:20 <coppice> Dhess_US: I thought standing was purely your right to claim to be a protagonist
35:23 <DHess_US> The court must have jurisdiction, there must be a case or controversy, and there must be a remedy. So like in Georgia, first the lawsuit was dismissed because of lack of a case or controversy because the election hadn't happened yet so there was no damaged. And then after the election, it was dismissed for lack of a remedy because it was too late to do anything about it.
36:09 <DHess_US> Yet the media says "lack of evidence", and if you point that out, Twitter and Facebook censor you.
36:52 <coppice> There are many interesting stats for the 2020 election, like the rate at which postal ballots were rejected
37:12 <DHess_US> Yea, I saw that also.
38:55 <DHess_US> Anyway, like many others I have been upgrading my personal defense situation over the past year. My shotgun was the most cost effective thing to improve.
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39:56 <DHess_US> Also bought magazines and pouches for my rifle. I've carried a handgun for years so was in good shape there.
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55:14 <DHess_US> Been watching and nothing in the news about a datacenter fire in Odgen Utah
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11:21 <hsn> https://www.coindesk.com/price/xrp
11:32 <hsn> what crazy world
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32:11 <Ysjoelfir> dafak
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34:52 <Ysjoelfir> bdunham7 please stop this join spamming or I have to ban you
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52:09 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) +b !*[email protected]
52:24 <hsn> why u ban him
52:25 <Ysjoelfir> that was wrong
52:35 <hsn> what now .. cant we get unstable internet ? :D
52:52 <hsn> maybe he was trying his own irc client which crashes alot ?
53:00 <hsn> its hand crafted irc
53:03 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) +b *!*@47.149.50D258.F8BBF0
53:13 <Ysjoelfir> its fuckin@ kiwiIRC
53:22 <hsn> ur kiwi racist
53:22 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) -b !*[email protected]
53:47 <Ysjoelfir> I'm german, I am allowed to
53:51 <hsn> :P
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55:34 <Ysjoelfir> bye!
56:19 <hsn> yeah bye
56:30 <hsn> i cant believe these guys .. :)
57:10 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
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25:27 * electrohead wonders around
38:56 * T3sl4 films
40:40 <TheDude> hsn, have you bought boomer coin yet?
42:52 <hsn> TheDude, idk boomer coin stuff
43:15 <TheDude> I thought you'd never ask
43:16 <TheDude> https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1617738010148.jpg
43:38 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, im being sarcastic .. u seems to forget my internet "disconnect issues" since im using znc long time ago :P
44:02 <hsn> TheDude, thats lite coin ?
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44:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol
44:15 <TheDude> yeah :D
44:39 <hsn> i got 1 LTC the dude
44:45 <TheDude> nice :D
44:53 <TheDude> my man
45:13 <TheDude> we can race on our shiny riding mowers after it moons
45:30 <hsn> im thinking to sell it at 250$ because im such "short temper" guy :P
45:36 <hsn> lol
45:52 <TheDude> at least wait for the ATH or something
45:57 <TheDude> but to each their own
46:29 <hsn> u think i shouldnt sell right ?
46:50 <TheDude> yes, but I'm just one idiot with an opinion
47:01 <hsn> i sold those XRPs last week :P they usually wait me to sell then go crazy
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47:16 <TheDude> ouch
47:49 <hsn> its fine .. i just deal with exchange service .. buy and sell when i get like 10%
48:09 <hsn> its not loss .. its just not profit :P
48:51 <TheDude> lambo or bust :D
52:31 <TheDude> just an FYI, I'm not as retarded as I make it seem :D
52:46 <electrohead> lol
52:59 <TheDude> 10% profit is still much better than 10% loss :D
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07:34 <hsn> Yeaa .. tbh i put 1000$ in crypto while i consider it total "luck" and accept that i might lose it all ...
07:45 <hsn> TheDude: ^
08:50 <hsn> But since i did that .. i tend to sell and buy alot just to have lots of compounding
09:28 <TheDude> how's it working out so far?
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11:40 <hsn> Since 1/2021 (260$) then added 530$ in (3/2021) .. its now 1050$ so .. 30% profit compounded
12:09 <TheDude> very nice :)
13:01 <hsn> Yeah .. it could be much better if i dont sell and buy much but meh
13:27 <electrohead> I never got into the cryptocurrency bubble
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13:38 <electrohead> I built a small mining 'rig' some time ago, and I barely did anything with it
13:43 <electrohead> mainly, I made it "just because"
14:03 <TheDude> it's not actually so bad if you use it for heating in the winter
14:03 <hsn> The exchange guys take around 5% for 2 way transactions ... So for me to win 10% i actually have to wait for 15% ..
14:21 <TheDude> granted, it's not as cheap to heat the home with electricity as with other heat sources
14:33 <TheDude> but the mined coin might offset that considerably
14:44 <TheDude> hsn, 5%? :O
14:47 <TheDude> wtf
14:54 <TheDude> where do you trade?
15:04 <hsn> TheDude: its 1.5%
15:18 <hsn> But 1.5% x 2 = 3%
15:28 <TheDude> that's still crazy expensive
15:29 <hsn> To convert twice
15:49 <hsn> Thats what they say .. but they actually play with the rate of exchange also
16:10 <hsn> So i noticed its around 5% for 2 operations
16:21 <hsn> Rain.bh
17:09 <TheDude> are you limited from using other exchanges because of your location?
17:19 <TheDude> binance is crazy cheap compared to that
17:40 <TheDude> kucoin, huobi
17:45 <TheDude> all better choices
19:04 <hsn> TheDude: im not sure .. some are some are not i think binance is legal here
20:48 <TheDude> just check the ToS before registering
21:36 <TheDude> speaking of which, I can send you a referral link and you can get 10% off on those fees
23:08 <TheDude> so like 0.08% instead of 0.1%
23:10 <TheDude> err
23:14 <TheDude> 0.09**
23:23 <hsn> But since this is local .. i tend to use it .. for many reasons .. including that i deal with my currency directly i dont need to convert it to dollar and bhd again .. or fees related to that
24:13 <electrohead> https://blog.haschek.at/2021/how-i-heat-my-home-by-mining.html
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25:15 <TheDude> googling around, it seems that binance also accept bahraini dinar
25:45 <TheDude> I hope it doesn't seem like I'm forcing you sign up and shill you my ref link
25:59 <TheDude> just telling you that there's an alternative
32:38 <hsn> TheDude: send me ur referral link
32:47 <hsn> https://support.rain.bh/en/articles/3487321-buy-btc-and-send-to-binance
33:39 <TheDude> one moment
34:29 <hsn> Do u also have to send lots of documents about ur identity to binanace?
34:45 <hsn> Passport license bank statements etc ?
34:45 <TheDude> https://www.binance.com/en/register?ref=A4XJZ1QO
35:00 <TheDude> I think you have to send that if you want to do the extended KYC
35:06 <TheDude> I haven't done that yet
36:08 <TheDude> there, with that referral you pay 10% less fees and I get 10% of the fees that you pay
36:20 <TheDude> binance makes 20% less in total
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39:38 <hsn> Nice
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52:01 <TheDude> if you need any help around binance, I can probably help you out
52:26 <TheDude> also, I'd recommend you stay away from things like margin trading and futures for the time being
53:00 <TheDude> there's potential to make massive gains there, but even more potential to blow your entire stack on a rogue wick
04:28 <hsn> Margin trading ? Is it the "10x 100x thingy"?
05:55 <TheDude> yes :D
06:59 <TheDude> there are idiots that if they're losing money in spot trades, that adding leverage is magically gonna help them make their investment back and gain some
07:22 <TheDude> in reality it just accelerates the losses by an order of magnitude
07:50 <hsn> Yeah it works great if u like 99% u wont lose
08:12 <TheDude> well, there's more to it
08:49 <TheDude> it's all about managing risk
09:04 <TheDude> but as a general rule
09:18 <TheDude> you need to master spot trading first before you should attempt to trade with borrowed money
10:02 <TheDude> because the house is going to get its cut regardless, but you might end up getting rekt in the process
10:38 <hsn> Do they take money per night like the thieves in etorro ?
11:01 <TheDude> I'm not familiar with how etoro works
11:08 <TheDude> I know that they exist, but that's about it
11:55 <hsn> I dont know about cryptos with them .. but for other stuff .. they take money if u dont sell or buy what u bought .. per day
12:17 <TheDude> oh wow
12:42 <TheDude> binance doesn't charge you for just holding assets in their wallets, if that's what you're asking
13:04 <hsn> https://www.etoro.com/news-and-analysis/etoro-updates/unified-fees/
13:06 <TheDude> but if you do borrow stuff on a margin, the interest accrues per hour
14:44 <TheDude> yeah, no, you don't pay those kinds of fees
15:47 <TheDude> if you're doing spot trading, you pay 0.1% (or less, in your case) for the trade
16:15 <TheDude> and then 0.1% more when you sell
16:17 <TheDude> that's it
16:45 <TheDude> withdrawal of the assets to your personal wallet costs some
16:49 <TheDude> deposits are free
20:31 <hsn> How do i view my bitcoin wallet so i can send to it for example ?
20:49 <hsn> And then how do i trade .. to usd?
20:54 <TheDude> you're already registered and logged in?
22:33 <hsn> Yes
22:46 <TheDude> okay, top right, you have Wallet
22:54 <TheDude> click that, and click Fiat and Spot
23:42 <TheDude> then you can search for BTC in the little search box on the top left, just below the fiat and spot balance
24:12 <TheDude> then in the line with BTC Bitcoin you can click Deposit
24:29 <TheDude> and you will see the deposit address
24:52 <TheDude> make sure that the BTC deposit network is selected on the top of the right box
25:24 <TheDude> the QR code and address just below it is the address you need to send to, to get the coins to the exchange wallet
25:31 <hsn> Yes saw it
25:38 <hsn> Thanks
25:46 <hsn> 1NR2QbnhKwwpRUpk...
25:58 <TheDude> yes, looks about right
26:47 <TheDude> welp, I have to go to sleep right now
26:56 <TheDude> oh wait
27:11 <TheDude> you asked how you can trade it after that
27:25 <TheDude> once the deposit arrives, you can go to fiat and spot wallet again
27:46 <TheDude> go to the line btc bitcoin
27:52 <TheDude> and near the end you will see Trade
28:12 <TheDude> you can then pick the trading pair you want
28:32 <TheDude> USDT is the most popular USD pegged stablecoin they have
29:14 <TheDude> but if you want to buy alts, you can buy them directly with the BTC trading pairs
29:21 <TheDude> no need to sell for USDT first
29:34 <TheDude> okay, now I'm heading to bed
29:42 <TheDude> will pop back in tomorrow if you have more questions
30:04 <TheDude> read everything twice before clicking and you'll be fine
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38:55 <managed> Any update on when EEVBlog.com will be back ?
39:43 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) -b *!*@47.149.50D258.F8BBF0
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45:10 <arch> maybe they ought to move to aws
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47:57 <managed> Any update on when EEVBlog.com will be back ?
52:23 <AlfBaz> Dave tweeted that his eevblog email seems to be up, so some progress is happening
52:49 <hierbabuena> Just the email server
54:23 <managed> That is good news, hopefully the site will be fixed soon too.
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56:32 <electrohead> *hopefully*
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56:58 <Halcyon> Farking stupid machine
57:47 <hierbabuena> Halcyon, people are looking for updates on the outage
57:57 <AlfBaz> LOL Yeah your spell check ain't working
58:29 <Halcyon> I just woke up, last I know, one of the servers is up, but not the one that makes the forum work.
58:59 <hierbabuena> tks
59:04 <Halcyon> We might have more news later on this morning
59:15 <hierbabuena> cool
59:24 <AlfBaz> Who's hotfussion, gnif?
59:59 <Halcyon> Correct
00:30 <AlfBaz> Dave asked him via twiter to do something with the dns
00:56 <Halcyon> Seems odd that he would ask him over Twitter, he has our email and phone numbers
01:32 <Halcyon> Oh yes, don't worry about that
01:32 <electrohead> Lol
04:04 <AlfBaz> I can get this clunker going but cant figure out twitter <palm>
06:27 <Halcyon> Don't worry, you're not the only one AlfBaz
06:31 <Halcyon> I avoid social media
06:55 <Halcyon> We do re-broadcast Dave's twitter posts in here too, but at the moment, that seems broken
07:04 <Halcyon> That's a seperate issue though
07:32 <AlfBaz> Ah, found it, and I quote "Looks like the EEVBlog server has power again and is operational because I just got a flood of email. If that works everything else should still be working. @HostFission can you try replacing the temp DNS please"
07:33 <EEVBlog> 42.
07:53 <Halcyon> Yeh
08:00 <Halcyon> Dave forgot he has 2 other servers :P
08:12 <AlfBaz> only 2?
13:44 <hierbabuena> Dave should do a video about it all
14:10 <Halcyon> It's not very exciting
14:18 <Halcyon> A few servers sitting in a DC in the US
14:24 <Halcyon> Not much to show
18:29 <hierbabuena> I was watching a video about a diesel genset cold start so that I could have an idea of what might have happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqpQZd9XxJM
22:15 <hierbabuena> It's a lot of smoke. A defective exhaust pipe could trigger the smoke alarm perhaps
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25:38 <Halcyon> Sure, but generally not outside the building
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36:41 <mnem> Mmmokayyy... can somebelly direct me to a bacup .iso of eevblog...? I have a dual-Xeon MacPro sitting here doing nothing, and 110Mbps cable ISP... xP
37:18 <Halcyon> Ewww Mac
37:20 <Halcyon> :P
38:05 <mnem> Runs mint really nice. Gorgeous on that 30in 2K display. ;)
38:31 <Halcyon> I'll stick with my Thinkpad
40:12 <mnem> All our laptops are off-lease Lenovos; got them for the whole fam. Best bang/buck you can get.
47:34 <electrohead> I love my thinkpad
47:37 <electrohead> it's the T60
47:38 <electrohead> heh
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48:52 <therealazzurro> lol didn't expect so many people here
49:06 <Halcyon> Some of us are vintage computer geeks :P
49:20 <Halcyon> None of this new fang-dangle social media stuff
50:06 <therealazzurro> online using vintage gear? I've got quite some kind of vintage PCs here as well, like 8086, 286, 386, 486 and so on, up until P3
50:14 <Halcyon> Hehe from time to time
50:21 <therealazzurro> nice
50:24 <Halcyon> Ampera has an old machine he uses for IRC sometimes
50:41 <Halcyon> I have a Commodore 64 I can use IRC on, but I need a new power supply for it
50:46 <Halcyon> I don't trust the one I have
50:56 <therealazzurro> i only dropped in because of the forum outage xD
51:20 <Halcyon> That's OK :P
51:23 <therealazzurro> well C64 was before my time. i started with 286es
51:31 <Halcyon> Same
51:32 <electrohead> therealazzurro: a few people have stopped by, due to the forum outage :P
51:38 <therealazzurro> never used IRC in my life before :D
51:44 <therealazzurro> i guess so lol
51:50 <Halcyon> Although I did have a Z80-based machine as a kid
52:03 <electrohead> never? well, there's a first for everything, then
52:04 <EEVBlog> 42, electrohead!
52:12 <Halcyon> IRC was my teenage years, it used to be soooo busy, thousands and thousands of users
52:15 <electrohead> o.O
52:24 <electrohead> never? well, there's a first for everything, then
52:35 <electrohead> ok, that didn't contain a trigger
52:43 * electrohead kicks EEVBlog
52:45 <therealazzurro> ICQ was my teenage years
52:52 <Halcyon> Ahh yes, same
52:56 <Halcyon> I think my account still works
53:01 <therealazzurro> mine too
53:09 <electrohead> Now ICQ is owned by a russian company
53:11 <therealazzurro> i even still remember the number
53:20 <therealazzurro> that's the main reason why I'm not going back
53:24 <electrohead> yeah, same
54:08 <therealazzurro> @EEVBlog is it going to take the DC operators 42 more hours to get the servers up and running? :P
54:27 <electrohead> therealazzurro: EEVBlog is a bot
54:37 <therealazzurro> crap
54:51 <Halcyon> gnif has been around, but I assume he is doing real-life stuff at the moment
55:11 <therealazzurro> gnif?
55:17 <gnif> o/... just making myself my morning coffee
55:17 <Halcyon> He's the server admin
55:25 <Halcyon> Speak of the devil
55:29 <Halcyon> Yeh I think I need another coffee
56:02 <therealazzurro> eevblog forum server admin or which admin?
56:03 <gnif> we are at the mercy of the DC, there is nothing we can do until they bring the machines back online
56:15 <gnif> eevblog server admin, forms and website
56:19 <gnif> *forums
56:32 <therealazzurro> sure, i figured that, no offense
56:41 <gnif> yeah, no problem :)
56:47 <Halcyon> He does everything basically :P
56:58 * electrohead throws coffee at gnif
57:03 <therealazzurro> hi gnif, the eevblog server admin, nice to meet you :D
57:11 * gnif screams... "it burns, it burns!"
57:24 <electrohead> goof :P
57:26 <gnif> hi therealazzurro :)
57:27 * Halcyon is waiting for the solar people to come around
57:27 <electrohead> hey mate
57:40 <rust_collector> morning...... nerds
57:43 <gnif> you getting solar on Halcyon ?
57:45 <Halcyon> Hey rusticles
57:55 <therealazzurro> is there any recommendable irc client for android? gotta go to sleep, it is 1am here
58:06 <gnif> rust_collector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tvy_Pbe5NA
58:10 <Halcyon> gnif, getting batteries and an additional 5kW installed next week
58:12 <rust_collector> I use termux, and run irssi inside that
58:16 <Halcyon> Already got 5kW
58:19 <gnif> oh nice!
58:34 <gnif> I have 2.2kW and batteries atm, but another 5.5kW of panels waiting for me to install them
58:38 <Halcyon> I hate paying stupid power bills :P
59:09 <gnif> I like having power when nobody else does :P
59:14 <Halcyon> That too
59:15 <Halcyon> :P
59:17 <therealazzurro> if there weren't power bills, i would be running a ridiculously huge server farm at home
59:42 <Halcyon> I have a half-height rack that is my big consumer
00:03 <therealazzurro> at work we're throwing out like 30-80TB enterprise storages at a regular basis
00:15 <therealazzurro> 10G iSCSI / 16G FC stuff
00:15 <Halcyon> Hmmm where do you work? :P
00:24 <gnif> I have a 24-core threadripper with three GPUs and 16 HDDs attached running 24/7
00:31 <Halcyon> Do you need a hand "throwing things out" ? :P
00:33 <therealazzurro> lol nice
00:47 <therealazzurro> @Halcyon you'd have to come to europe :D
00:50 <Halcyon> Dammit
01:06 <therealazzurro> android irc client, anyone?
01:14 <gnif> Halcyon, it's spanned across 300 disks
01:22 <therealazzurro> without getting a ton of malware and adware?
01:43 <gnif> therealazzurro, I use hexchat, which is open source, there might be an android port
01:45 <Halcyon> My next upgrade to my NAS will probably be to SSD drives
03:49 <electrohead> therealazzurro: I use weechat on my laptop, and sometimes rely on the android app that uses the relay feature. technically, you could set up a tunnel to your machine at home/wherever it is, and just encrypt said tunnel to access it. but of course, that's going all out, when there's standard clients out there
03:59 <Halcyon> Weeeee
04:35 <therealazzurro> ok thanks, will look into it
04:48 <therealazzurro> gotta go, cya maybe later :D
05:00 <Halcyon> Thanks for dropping in
05:06 <rust_collector> I did not like the clients I found for android, so I went with a regular linux style one
05:07 <therealazzurro> thanks for having me
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05:16 <gnif> I pinged the DC for another update, it's past the EST restoration time
05:39 <gnif> how much you want to bet that the remaining servers were flooded?
05:54 <Halcyon> Mmmm good point
06:00 <Halcyon> But was the fire inside the DC?
06:27 <gnif> they have not said, other then some servers need to be rebuilt due to water damage
06:39 <Halcyon> That must have been some fire then
06:49 <gnif> so my guess is the fire system was triggered inside the building
07:09 <Halcyon> That should only impact the small area where the fire is
07:35 <Halcyon> I guess Dave's email server was physically seperate from the others?
07:44 <gnif> yes... but I bet Murphy was involved.
08:09 <Halcyon> Although this begs the question, why doesn't Dave just use Google Workspace or Office 365 ?
08:14 <gnif> Dave's email server is a different class of machine and does not have floating IPs for failover, etc
08:32 <gnif> it's not just an email server, he uses it for other things too
08:38 <Halcyon> Right
13:56 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
14:07 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
14:13 <Ampera> hi asshole
14:16 <Ampera> I love you
14:26 * gnif hugs himself
14:31 <Halcyon> Aww you're sweet :)
14:32 <gnif> I love me
14:38 * Ampera gives gnif a smoked bratwurst
14:43 <Halcyon> Hehe
14:48 <gnif> lol
15:10 <Ampera> honestly if one person hugged me, and another person fed me, I'd love the person who fed me until time stopped
15:39 <Halcyon> Heh, that's basically what I do
15:46 <Halcyon> Although I love cooking so it works for me
16:16 <rust_collector> be careful, your time could stop very quickly if you eat anything people give you
16:53 * gnif hands Ampera a fist full of broken glass
17:08 * Ampera eats out of gnif's hand like a horse
17:22 <rust_collector> that is very filling, I guess
17:24 <gnif> well that was easy :)
17:41 * Ampera spits high velocity glass shards at gnif like a llama
18:21 * gnif dies and eevblog remains offline forever
18:54 <Halcyon> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhlb6JCMH8
18:57 <rust_collector> could you take daves twatter account with you?
19:43 <gnif> Halcyon, I love baby magpies!
19:47 <Ampera> less organ more magpie
20:08 <Ampera> you say that like increased traffic to the IRC channel is a bad thing for us
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21:37 <gnif> when my daughter was 2, we heard her in her play area chatting away, thinking it was some game as per her usual until my wife walked in to find a magpie had come inside and she was chatting to it.
22:02 <Ampera> I wonder how magpie pie tastes
22:23 <gnif> Like π
22:30 <Ampera> that's rad dude
22:37 <Halcyon> I love magpies, one of my favourite birds
23:05 <Halcyon> The ones that hang around my place, I can almost get them to eat from my hand
23:14 <gnif> we did have a family of them we used to feed, etc... they would eat from our hands
23:30 <Halcyon> The cockatoos are assholes though
23:31 <gnif> but one day a baby one got stuck in the netting for one of our fruit trees
23:40 <Halcyon> Most are nice but there are one or two young ones who like to chew on things
23:43 <gnif> after I saved it, they never came back again
23:44 <Ampera> Halcyon, can you eat wildlife in Australia?
23:51 <gnif> Kangaroo!
23:53 <Halcyon> Yup
23:56 <Halcyon> Kangaroo is delicious
23:56 <Ampera> like if you ate a cockatoo, would it be legal?
24:04 <Halcyon> I guess?
24:07 <Ampera> you seem to have a lot of them
24:08 <Halcyon> Not sure why you'd want to
24:19 <gnif> because you like asswholes?
24:22 <gnif> *assholes
24:31 <Halcyon> I don't think cockatoos taste like chicken
24:31 <Ampera> because when I see something that's annoying and australian, I seem to have gotten this strong desire to put my mouth around it
24:37 <Halcyon> I mean maybe they do?
24:41 <Halcyon> ROFL Ampera
24:41 <Halcyon> Wow
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25:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Documenting Bitcoin 📄: Coinbase is now more valuable than Goldman Sachs, who called #bitcoin "not an asset class" last year.
25:43 * gnif walks away to get his coffee
25:52 <Ampera> huh
26:04 <Ampera> I didn't do anything
26:11 <bdunham7> It looks like 3PM MDT has come...and gone. And I was banned from this IRC for some reason?
26:13 <Halcyon> :P
26:25 <Halcyon> bdunham7, yes, gnif is chasing an update.
26:34 <gnif> bdunham7: https://twitter.com/HostFission/status/1379566521601519619
26:44 <Halcyon> As for the ban, it's likely you are using a shared IP address that was previously used by a troll, spam etc...
27:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Nathaniel Whittemore: Coinbase has more than 4x the number of users of Robinhood. They did more revenue in the first quarter of Q1 than in all of 2020. And they're profitable to the tune of $730m-$800m. Wall Street is about to absolutely blow a gasket.
27:32 <gnif> Dave needs a Twitter account that is just electronics related
27:46 <Ampera> idk, I still think this rampant crypto optimism can't end well
27:50 <Ampera> people are getting too lucky
28:03 <Ampera> there's not enough losers, so something is getting ready to come crashing down
29:00 <Halcyon> Oh there are plenty of losers
29:19 <electrohead> <-- here's one right here
29:21 <electrohead> lol
29:22 <Halcyon> I worked with a guy who took out *a lot* of money against his mortgage (stupidly) and lost most of it
29:29 <Ampera> well that's only because you use python, electrohead
29:40 * electrohead drowns Ampera
30:26 <Ampera> I still can't see crypto working any time soon, as it just doesn't have all that much serious trade going on, and it's still almost exclusively exchange value
30:54 <Ampera> so while a bunch of people are making good money riding volatility, it's sort of forgetting what the point of a currency is
31:10 <Halcyon> Yep
31:12 <Halcyon> Pretty much
31:13 <Ampera> and at the end of the day people are primarily reliant on "real" currencies to actually do anything with it
31:35 <Ampera> it just seems like a stock with no company to back it, but a similarly limited supply
31:37 <Halcyon> I think it does have useful applications, but we just have to wait and see
31:52 * electrohead just stays far away from it
31:56 <Ampera> ^
32:16 <Halcyon> I have some money invested in various crypto
32:17 <Ampera> When I see crypto, I hear casino
32:21 <Halcyon> But not enough to worry if I lose it all
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32:47 <AlfBaz> A guy I worked with mad a motza with it and is nw retired
32:54 <AlfBaz> made
33:23 <Halcyon> Bitcoins success in my opinion is limited
33:32 <Halcyon> It's inflated because it's "popular" not because it's good
33:42 <AlfBaz> Hey started with bitcoin and then moved to the others
34:06 <gnif> anyone got any good recommendations for a decent BT transmitter module I can just wire an analog input into and have it pair with some headphones?
34:11 <Ampera> but the thing is, for every guy who wins, a hundred guys have gotta be losing
34:15 <AndroUser> LMAO i just watched the geek vs nerd rap battle
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34:36 <Ampera> gnif, no because no such thing exists
34:43 <Ampera> bluetooth is incapable of good audio
34:49 <Ampera> it just ruins everything it touches
34:56 <Halcyon> Sounds like you Ampera
34:57 <Halcyon> :P
35:05 <AlfBaz> LOL
35:14 <Ampera> I can't think of a single most infuriating radio technology on devices today
35:20 <Ampera> *most -> more
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35:40 <Ampera> for a more constructive answer
35:44 <gnif> When you are just listening to podcasts, who cares?
35:52 <therealazzurro> bt was crap from day 1
36:04 <Ampera> it depends on your intended usecase. If you're just listening to media, and latency doesn't matter, then find something with good codect support that doesn't look too plasticy
36:13 <Ampera> iirc, Fiio has some decent, if expensive options
36:26 <Ampera> I'd also look at ANKER, though I'm not sure they do this exactly
36:36 <gnif> I don't want a end user device, I want a module I can install as part of an existing build
36:55 <Ampera> install how though
36:58 <Ampera> solder into something?
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37:29 <gnif> yes, fixed install, power derived from a 15V rail, and input directly from a pre-amp
37:45 <Ampera> Pi Zero W with an ADC?
37:58 <Ampera> and DC-DC converter I guess
38:06 <gnif> I did get a cheap unit from eBay for $9 which works, but it's unfortunately mono
38:24 <therealazzurro> ESP32?
38:32 <Ampera> the problem is dealing with the unending nightmare that is Bluetooth on Linux
38:36 <Ampera> (and moreso, bluetooth audio on linux)
38:44 <Ampera> bluetooth on linux isn't that bad actually
38:47 <gnif> this requires programming.... by module, I mean complete solution
38:59 <Ampera> doesn't require programming, just requires linuxing
39:05 <gnif> bah, same deal
39:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Check out this week's AmpHour :Which was quoting: The Amp Hour Podcast: This week @Dhanaliwala, Founder and CEO of @LagerData, joins @Chris_Gammell to talk about building out firmware testing infrastructure. His experience deploying firmware to devices after being manufactured in China inspired the Lager Gateway and platform. https://t.co/tKEMoHZsHB https://t.co/fHeRcoayRz
39:17 <Ampera> why the hell is the bot working all of a sudden
39:27 <Ampera> I'm almost wondering if there might have been a problem with the Twitter REST API or something
39:30 <gnif> EEVBlog send me money!
39:32 <Ampera> or if the bot just needed a reset
39:39 <gnif> nope, still broken
40:12 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o EEVBlog
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41:03 <Halcyon> Something like this gnif? https://www.electrodragon.com/product/bluetooth-audio-transmitter-receiver-board-embt-s02/
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41:41 <Ampera> SBC only, but if all you want is podcasts, that'll do
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43:14 <gnif> looks perfect
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45:25 <rust_collector> mmmm magpie
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05:47 <hierbabuena> This channel is a lot busier when the ozzies are awake
06:11 <Halcyon> Oh I don't know, Ampera talks a fair amount of shit as well :P
06:39 <Ampera> What comes in must come out
06:51 <Halcyon> :P
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10:14 <steve30> o/
10:32 <rust_collector> HELLO! mr dr steve
11:42 <electrohead> Ampera's favorite thing is bashing on python
11:53 <Ampera> ^
12:00 <rust_collector> mekes sense
12:13 <Ampera> I just don't like snakes
12:16 <Ampera> I don't swing that way
12:21 <electrohead> mmhmm
12:37 <rust_collector> but the killer rabbits are cool
12:52 * steve30 passes Ampera some BASIC
13:08 <Ampera> \o/
13:21 * Ampera gives steve30 some FORTRAN
13:38 <rust_collector> but it is basiq, which is the same, but in french
14:04 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
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17:48 <Halcyon> Might make san choy bau tonight
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20:59 <electrohead> what did you call me?
21:02 <electrohead> lol
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25:56 <Tezzers> Halcyon : You need someone who can bullshit?
25:58 <Tezzers> I can bullshit.
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26:37 <Ampera> alas, he can bullshit
26:43 <Ampera> he can bullshit better than I
26:45 <Ampera> for he is full of shit
27:59 <Tezzers> If you want to buy a liposuction machine I can get you some more
29:08 <Ampera> by fuck no am I ain't gonna suck you off
29:24 * electrohead gets ready to film
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34:43 * rust_collector is waiting for the stream....
35:45 <arch> is kinda gay, but count me in
35:50 <Ampera> I'd get an onlyfans, but I don't have any fans, and it's only for fans
35:52 <Ampera> so
36:12 <Ampera> lol, on my client that looks like "arch is kinda gay, but count me in"
36:51 <electrohead> lol
37:01 <arch> >:|
37:09 * Ampera hugs arch 
37:09 <rust_collector> I wonder if it is sad, or not, when your fans keep it secret from you
37:11 <Ampera> it's ok to be gay <3
37:25 * electrohead films
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39:22 <rust_collector> did someone hire a bunch of people to join here today?
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39:50 <Ampera> rust_collector, shhh
39:56 <hierbabuena> no, we're just bored
40:01 <rust_collector> good
40:08 <rust_collector> keep doing that
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42:36 <rust_collector> full of holes
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43:34 <Tezzers> Ampera : Thank fuck he hasn't made it over here.
43:37 <Tezzers> My god.
43:51 <Ampera> he never fucking shuts up
44:03 <Ampera> he just comes in, rambles about absolutely fucking nothing, nobody even talks to him, and then leaves
44:15 <hierbabuena> rust_collector, not that kind of bored
44:24 <Tezzers> Ampera : I was hoping he'd be gone after my hiatus
44:30 <Tezzers> And then he fucking shows up
44:33 <Tezzers> Like fucking herpes
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44:43 <Tezzers> Just when you think its gone. it comes back. And WORSE.
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49:40 <arch> who?
49:55 <rust_collector> mr syphilis
49:59 <rust_collector> no, wait
50:02 <arch> lol
50:10 <Ampera> some asshole named coppercone in the afternet channel
50:12 <Ampera> who never
50:13 <Ampera> fucking
50:14 <Ampera> shuts
50:14 <Ampera> up
50:26 <rust_collector> ah, same as on the forum?
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52:36 <Ampera> does he also not shut up on the forums?
52:48 <arch> i actually thought you guys were talking about Nothing
52:56 <rust_collector> not sure, but I think I have seen the name there
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54:02 <Ampera> I am so ready for apple to release their new macbook pros
54:06 <Ampera> my laptop is just falling the fuck apart on me
54:16 <Ampera> it feels like it could snap right the fuck in two any day now
54:35 <rust_collector> heh, what is it?
54:59 <Ampera> A lenovo
55:01 <Ampera> of some sort
55:08 <Ampera> ideapad flex or something like that
55:17 <rust_collector> eeh, ok
55:20 <Ampera> made out of the cheapest fucking plastic, and held together by the smallest screws they could find
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55:30 <Ampera> with no loctite, so half of them have just rattled themselves the fuck out of the laptop
55:38 <rust_collector> sounds very lenovo
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56:22 <rust_collector> i think the consumer grade lenovos might even be worse than the cheap consumer grade hp laptops
56:24 <Ampera> it's almost never left my house
56:28 <Ampera> it's just been next to me in bed
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56:36 <Ampera> I'm in agreement there
57:18 <rust_collector> which takes some good engineers to achieve, I guess
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12:42 * steve30 pets his murder-weapon grade thinkpads
13:23 <electrohead> lol
13:30 <electrohead> yeah they're pretty damn beefy
13:43 <electrohead> no other laptops in the world compare to them
13:47 <electrohead> well, wait
13:49 <electrohead> most
14:00 <rust_collector> the t,x,and w series seems to be good. but they are not even similar to the cheaper ones
14:11 <electrohead> I've come across a few in the military, that were beefy as fuck
14:21 <rust_collector> panasonic?
14:26 <Ampera> I'm actually excited for the new Macbook Pro
14:35 <steve30> I'd guess toughbooks can compete
14:38 <Halcyon> We use the Panasonic Touchbooks at work
14:42 <Halcyon> You can throw those
14:47 <Halcyon> *Toughbooks
14:54 * Ampera touches Halcyon 
14:57 <Halcyon> :D
15:05 <Halcyon> Back soon, going to the post office and shops
15:10 <Ampera> have fun
15:10 <rust_collector> but you can not run them over with those container stackers.
15:36 <rust_collector> well, you can, but they don't tend to survive that, lol
15:46 <rust_collector> they are incredibly expensive tho
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19:15 <rust_collector> I really do not miss the post offices, lol
19:16 <electrohead> Halcyon: yes. the toughbooks!
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20:39 <steve30> I went to the post office this other week to pay a bill. I was in and out in a couple of minutes
20:58 <rust_collector> we don't have post offices here any more
21:20 <steve30> Where do you go to post things?
21:44 <rust_collector> which is good, as they only employed grumpy old women, and they were only open between 10 and 3 or something
21:56 <electrohead> lol
22:04 <rust_collector> i go to my local store,
22:30 <rust_collector> or, as I work for them, I just bring stuff to work, and throw it in a container
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24:29 <rust_collector> most villages has a postal corner in the local store. it is great, as people go to the store anyway, and they are open when the store is
25:24 <steve30> Most post offices round here have had stupidly long queues outside. So I've been going to the main post office in the town centre which has been virtually empty
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25:35 <steve30> Well, empty when I turn up first thing. I don't know what its like during the day.
26:21 <hierbabuena> I haven't been to a post office in more than a decade
27:14 <steve30> I don't go as often as I used to, but then I seldom ever post parcels any more, and we have fewer international letters to send as people have died.
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28:55 <coppice> steve30: some of the post offices around here are closed. I don't know why, because they just reduced their hours in the first lock down
29:26 <steve30> Probably to keep you 'safe'
29:48 <steve30> Our local one has a poster up saying that they are 'covid heros' or some crap
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41:44 <electrohead> we're popular, tonight
42:07 <rust_collector> well, 16/3 of them are the same people over and over...
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46:22 <steve30> We seem to have been popular since the forum outage
47:15 <octorian> I've been idling on the server for a long time, I just forgot to rejoin the channel since I last reconnected. Having 95% of my IRC usage being on FreeNode, and this being AustNet, doesn't help.
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49:06 <steve30> My client auto connects to freenode, but i haven't actually used freenode in years
49:36 <octorian> I have a ZNC instance managing my Freenode connection, so that one actually stays put a lot more automatically.
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50:34 <octorian> I'm also probably long overdue for making a forum post asking for *actionable* advice on something I'm working on, but it can wait a few more days.
50:48 <octorian> (and I don't honestly expect to get anything useful, but it can't hurt to try)
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00:47 <rust_collector> try again electrohead
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07:40 <steve30000> Even I'm at it now!
08:15 <rust_collector> I thought about it, but it seems like too much work
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12:35 <electrohead> Nusa: having connection issues?
12:54 <rust_collector> no, he is just really really bored
13:11 <rust_collector> connection works fine every time
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24:03 <Halcyon> I'm vback
24:05 <Halcyon> back
24:11 <rust_collector> oh
24:20 <Halcyon> An I have ramen
24:22 <Halcyon> Nom
25:08 <electrohead> welcome back
25:29 <rust_collector> yes, welcome back, ramen
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27:23 <steve30000> hi Halcyon
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41:43 * T3sl4 anneals Ampera in the oven at 350F for 6 hours
42:17 * Ampera shatters into a billion pieces anyways
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45:58 <rust_collector> uh, good night, I think
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00:07 <electrohead> And that's that.
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16:32 <graybeard> I had pasta primivera
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28:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Robert Garito: @eevblog https://t.co/ilzFQFrzB5
29:38 <electrohead> sounds good, do you have any leftovers?
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32:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: We have management server access back: https://t.co/uWpqqj3sU4
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48:26 <ito> \help
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39:23 <Halcyon> *yawns*
39:34 * steve30 paws at Halcyon 
39:41 <Halcyon> :)
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42:35 <Halcyon> gniffffff
42:42 <simmosideways> hi everyone
42:46 <Halcyon> Hey simmosideways
42:58 <simmosideways> been a while since i was on irc. bit rusty
43:04 <Halcyon> Heheh that's OK :)
43:08 <Halcyon> It hasn't changed much
43:16 <simmosideways> excellent!
43:40 <steve30> hi
51:25 <simmosideways> bbs, will jump back on my other device
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51:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: So this means I get 96 days of free hosting for every day my server is down? That's currently pushing around a years free hosting... https://t.co/ITAfkvmZVj
54:41 * steve30 fancies some food
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32:17 <Tezzers> idk why you bother with printing
32:17 <Tezzers> Just get a fucking mill]
32:17 <Tezzers> Mini mill
32:17 <Tezzers> Minilathe
32:17 <T3sl4> minidrillpress
32:17 <T3sl4> minishaper
32:17 <T3sl4> pretty soon you'll be drowning under your own minichineshop
32:17 <Tezzers> Why do you need a mini drill press if you have a minimill?
32:17 <Tezzers> And what does a shaper have to do with a mill and lathe? That's wood elf shit
32:17 <T3sl4> the shaper doesn't have to be for metal
32:17 <T3sl4> there are memes going back to victorian era about the thrills of operating one
32:17 <Tezzers> You mean shakers?
32:17 <T3sl4> that too
32:17 <Ampera> shakers were neat people
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32:17 <Ampera> Printing is the cheapest and easiest way for me to make a case for this computer
32:17 <Ampera> well, cheapest at least
32:17 <Ampera> I just need to get the model betterer
32:17 <Tezzers> You can't dump $30 on a case?
32:17 <Tezzers> Sounds cheaper to me on time and materials and labor cost and aggravation
32:17 <Ampera> Tezzers, a case doesn't exist
32:17 <Ampera> not for my use case
32:17 <Ampera> if it did, I would have bought one
32:17 <Ampera> the only case that's available is intended for NAS use, and is way larger than I want, with space for two entire hard drives
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32:43 <MrMobodies> Hello
32:48 <steve30> o/
32:50 <MrMobodies> I see many more members in here
33:06 <MrMobodies> the list is so big there are scrollbars
33:20 <MrMobodies> aah maybe it is do with the website
33:25 <MrMobodies> and that fire
34:09 <MrMobodies> I wish one day I don't agitated, it is not doing m=
34:14 <MrMobodies> my health any good
34:51 <MrMobodies> just to escape to somewhere that don't annoy me and forget about everything
36:09 <MrMobodies> ordered the rat cage
36:31 <MrMobodies> and going to build a little camera stand to mount the camera
36:53 <MrMobodies> that'll be some fun
37:20 <MrMobodies> seeing what is up there in the attic lurking around
37:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: GorillaServers web page is back up, this is their SLA: https://t.co/j4kkArh6Aj
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43:49 <Halcyon> MrMobodies, yep
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44:00 <Halcyon> Hopefully some people decide to stay
46:28 <MrMobodies> On Sunday I picked up a monitor down a yard sale for £2
46:54 <MrMobodies> its a Suyama MC7CNA and seems to work alright
47:43 <MrMobodies> it was almost like a bootsale but just with two stalls and many things
48:17 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/oR3Xlo3.jpg
49:40 <steve30> A monitor that takes ink cartridges... interesting :)
50:40 <MrMobodies> yes the buttons I like the joke
50:58 <MrMobodies> and the multi meter I got one of them https://i.imgur.com/icNA8yY.jpg
51:09 <MrMobodies> https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/tmk_vf_5.html
51:14 <MrMobodies> built in 1988 Japan
51:28 <MrMobodies> but not old enough I think
51:57 <Halcyon> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UzTf0Qo37A
52:09 <Halcyon> Why don't you write a 512 byte program?
54:53 <MrMobodies> Do you remember a demo I think about 2001 that was 64k in size and 15 minutes long.
55:01 <MrMobodies> and had this music in there
55:09 <Halcyon> Yep, Heaven7
55:22 <MrMobodies> I know it was German
55:27 <Halcyon> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=5
58:01 <MrMobodies> aaah same place different demo though
58:03 <MrMobodies> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=1221
58:19 <MrMobodies> I found the file FR-08
58:35 <MrMobodies> it had all this wiered moving stuff and some kind of a church
59:09 <MrMobodies> I haven't seen that Seven heaven but it looks nice
59:51 <MrMobodies> I remembered at school them running it and there would all these artifiacts and glitches
00:04 <MrMobodies> varying from machine and graphics cards
00:44 <Halcyon> Heaven 7 won a competition many years ago
00:59 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNqpD3Mg9hY
01:13 <Halcyon> That's what it looks like. It's amazing what people can do with 64 kilobytes
01:50 <MrMobodies> interesting that Seven heaven in April 2000 (must be the first) whereas the FR-08 was later in December
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02:13 <Halcyon> Probably the same 64k competition
02:30 <Halcyon> I've never seen RF-08
02:33 <Halcyon> *FR
02:36 <Halcyon> looks amazing
03:10 <MrMobodies> that looks good, I have a few demos like that very nice
03:23 <MrMobodies> I remembver they were under a name called Fraubraush?
10:04 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/ezmD0dB.jpg
10:26 <MrMobodies> http://farb-rausch.de/
10:46 <MrMobodies> ah I see just a download site where I got them
14:26 <MrMobodies> I see they have all been uploaded on youtube
14:38 <MrMobodies> and ones I haven't seen before
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35:13 <MrMobodies> here's my favourite one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBpo5GHcmsE
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10:39 <K> hello spaghets
11:03 <Ysjoelfir> hello noodle
12:15 <K> yes.
17:40 <steve30> hi
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19:51 <Ysjoelfir> So... I just looked at my mails. registered at APEM yesterday to grab a 3D Model and brochure for a switch series. instantly Morten Højdevang replied if I need some free samples or additional information. Yes, Morten, I take ALL the free samples of your insanely expensive clicky buttons!!!!! Also, a brochure that outlines a bit better how the hell this switch and button series interconnects with each other would be great
20:50 <K> Morten just wants to talk to someone
20:59 <K> are those switches nice?
21:39 <K> https://www.apem.com/int/14-panel-switches
21:44 <K> ooh, indeed they are
28:07 * T3sl4 clickys Ysjoelfir's buttons
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33:21 <therealazzurro> good morning <enter your location>!
33:30 <Ysjoelfir> they have very nice ones, yes. I was refering to the MEC series.
33:38 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.apem.com/de/29-mec-kurzhubtaster
34:15 <Ysjoelfir> its a nice idea, to have a system that allows you to create a frontpanel with many button varieties and colors
34:15 <steve30> hi
34:41 <Ysjoelfir> though the "base" switch, the 5G series, is pretty expensive with 2.40€ a pop, for a simple clicky button
34:52 <K> make your own christmas tree!
34:55 <therealazzurro> don't show this to rigol, they'll go to town just like with the font variety on their load
34:55 <Ysjoelfir> (compared to your normal 20 cents for the standard things)
35:23 <Ysjoelfir> also: mornings, new guy :)
35:38 <T3sl4> how can i enter my location if i am already in my location?
36:03 <Ysjoelfir> wth, I just noticed the user bar. how many people joined and stayed yesterday? 20?
36:24 <therealazzurro> that's too philosophic for 09:36am :P
36:47 <T3sl4> you're right, the forum should shut down more often!
36:47 <Ysjoelfir> oh, my timezone! :D for T3sl4 its never early
36:51 <Ysjoelfir> he doesn't sleep
36:55 <therealazzurro> @T3sl4 if that's your forum name, thanks for helping me with my Lab supply CC stability issue :)
37:00 <T3sl4> actually i just got up
37:06 <Ysjoelfir> woot?
37:08 <T3sl4> yw therealazzurro
38:57 <therealazzurro> yesterday I finally got to try out some values for the opamp compensation and wanted to update the post on the forum and boom, a huge wtf hit me xD
39:28 <therealazzurro> that's when I discovered that there's a irc channel
39:44 <Ysjoelfir> looks like you are one of the good ones! welcome!
40:02 <therealazzurro> thanks
40:31 <therealazzurro> gnif maybe should implement a shoutbox or what it's called in the forum for random chat
40:59 <Ysjoelfir> people tend to use kiwiIRC for that. those are the bad ones.
41:55 <therealazzurro> oh my god, I don't wanna be one of the bad ones :-O what is kiwiIRC?
42:56 <T3sl4> it used to be the web client on eevblog
43:03 <Ysjoelfir> a browser based IRC client that people tend to let open in the background which then, after they idled some time, starts reconnecting endlessly which floods the channel
43:24 <therealazzurro> never heard of that... maybe because yesterday was the first time in my life I ever used IRC xD
43:52 <therealazzurro> my teenage years were all icq
44:48 <therealazzurro> @Ysjoelfir sounds horrible
44:54 <Ysjoelfir> ew, another one of these! :P I still know my ICQ number and it even still exists....
45:05 <therealazzurro> same here :D
45:36 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea why I still have that in my mind.... haven't used it for like.... 15 years
45:42 <Ysjoelfir> well ok, maybe 12
46:12 <T3sl4> i had a mediocre i think 161xxxxxx but i dont remember it
46:20 <T3sl4> had aim for much longer, until it shut down :D
46:49 <Ysjoelfir> I was using MSN parallel to icq
46:56 <therealazzurro> @Ysjoelfir again, same here xD
47:10 <therealazzurro> 144xxxxxx was mine
47:14 <Ysjoelfir> so you are probably from germany then?
47:17 <Ysjoelfir> 238569195
47:25 <T3sl4> noob
47:32 <therealazzurro> xD here we go again
47:45 <steve30> Mine was/is 302620885. I never really used it though.
47:57 <Ysjoelfir> see? EVERYONE of my friends used that combination of messengers back than.
48:24 <steve30> I kinda used MSN, but I mostly used it through the BitlBee client
48:30 <therealazzurro> i'm not from germany if that was towards me
48:45 <therealazzurro> icq > msn > skype, i think
48:59 <therealazzurro> trillian was my favourite client
49:00 <Ysjoelfir> therealthing: aww, I failed! XD steve: I used trillian and mirinda
49:21 <T3sl4> yeah, i used trillian for a long time
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50:00 <therealazzurro> i still have the trillian directory backed up somewhere and if I fire it up, i'm online with icq again xD at least few years ago it still worked lol
50:17 <T3sl4> now i use pidgin, which... isn't a great fit for either the irc or telegram i use it for :P
50:34 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 32f to c
50:34 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0 c
50:53 <Ysjoelfir> pidgin.... tried that multiple times, never liked it
51:28 <steve30> MSN etc always seemed pretty useless to me, as most of the people i knew on msn where the same people i knew on forums and irc
51:35 <therealazzurro> i use signal for signal, threema for threema, skype for skype and fb messenger for fb messengering. my phone is BLOATED
52:22 <Ysjoelfir> I don't use phones for messenging much. I hate phones.
52:36 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, most of the contacts I had on MSN I also had on ICQ :D
52:47 <Ysjoelfir> but some only had one of the two
53:02 <therealazzurro> i hate the fact that the touchy grabby sh*t type of gui is all over everywhere, even on desktops
53:16 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
53:22 <Ysjoelfir> I totally agree
53:40 <steve30> I usually work on the basis that if people only use proprietary protocols/software or similar then they probably aren't worth bothering with.
53:55 <therealazzurro> for phones it is ok and i use my smartphone for stuff but there is certainly more stuff that I only want to do on a proper pc
53:57 <Ysjoelfir> thats kinda true
54:05 <therealazzurro> haha yes
59:21 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz486JXLScM I really enjoy watching that guy. such a nice result!
59:55 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icy1CBnPPWE thats the "before" situation
00:34 <therealazzurro> makes me want to play fallout
00:57 * Ysjoelfir coughs and points to his fallout styled Minipom / Breakmate
01:30 <therealazzurro> xD
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20:45 <Ysjoelfir> so our cat just decided that he is a dog and wants us to throw stuff around for him to bring back
21:10 <steve30> Its convenient when random porn site you'd never heard of before are supported by youtube-dl
21:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:48 <Ysjoelfir> try xnxx, I think that one works as well.
41:18 * gnif cries
41:20 <gnif> https://twitter.com/HostFission/status/1379715356982317056
41:45 <therealazzurro> lol crap
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41:56 <Ysjoelfir> cool!
42:09 * gnif slaps Ysjoelfir 
42:15 <therealazzurro> at which point are you going to rent resources somewhere else? are you somehow tied to gorillaservers?
42:17 <Ysjoelfir> more please!
42:44 <gnif> not at all tied to them, right now our goal is simply to get back online
43:13 <Ysjoelfir> I hope they have a good ensurance?
43:26 <gnif> we have some special network requirements that make it difficult to just up and change
43:50 <brayden> lol my webnx box is in the "high probability of water damage" area
43:58 <brayden> and from the webhostingtalk thread it seems that happened to a lot of people
44:01 <gnif> it would be more cost and time effective still at this point to hope they can just turn things back on
44:03 <therealazzurro> hm special stuff is always bad... bother to go into detail?
44:20 <gnif> no, it's more about IP failover, etc
44:27 <T3sl4> wow, well that explains why the forum has been down so long
44:41 <brayden> tbh I've been restoring my stuff elsewhere but just the important things. like my powerdns master
44:45 <gnif> redundant LAN's linking the machines, etc
44:52 <brayden> it didn't take out my DNS infra as the DB is only replicated but I did basically lose control of my zones lol
45:01 <therealazzurro> are you load balancing stuff?
45:04 <gnif> yes
45:28 <gnif> as much as I don't like CloudFlare, we use them for their DNS servers giving a ton of redundancy
45:33 <therealazzurro> that usually doesn't make stuff easier :D
45:59 <therealazzurro> wow didn't ever get a "browser check" on eevblog pages
46:00 <EEVBlog> If you keep saying that, I'm gonna hold you upside down and shake you until all the electrons fall out, therealazzurro!
46:15 <therealazzurro> lol
47:08 <gnif> stfu eevblog :P
49:36 <therealazzurro> i do datacenter operations at my company and we do have emergency plans and stuff and at this point we would already have a plan for what to do in the worst case. idk what income loss is involved for dave here but at this point I would suggest to at least make a plan of what to do if the servers are permanently damaged. if such a plan doesn't already exist anyway...
49:52 <therealazzurro> "at my company" should be "at the company i work for"
50:47 <gnif> lol, Dave is a small operation, what he has here is based the following requirements... "is it cheap? and do I need it?", the fact that we have backups and some level of redundancy is due to my insistence
51:16 <therealazzurro> haha :D doesn't he make money with the forum and the website in direct and indirect ways?
51:32 <steve30> I'm guessing dave could just restore the backups elsewhere. Might not be ideal but would be better than nothing.
51:42 <gnif> I can't comment on how much downtime is costing him, but from what I understand it's not a high priority for him
51:56 <therealazzurro> ty anyways for insisting on backups, we all could face a much worse situation now, without them
51:58 <gnif> but yes, we have plans in motion to restore to another server which we are in the process of arranging
52:19 <rust_collector> zzzmorning
52:23 <therealazzurro> cool bananas!
52:33 <therealazzurro> good morning
52:41 <gnif> in any case, this might help dave see the value in having a warm backup
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53:11 <rust_collector> hmm, ok
53:38 <therealazzurro> the easiest would probably be for gorillaservers to reroute the ip addresses involved to some other, working portion of the DC and commission some servers there, but i guess the DC dudes are quite busy right now...
54:21 <gnif> well we can do anything really as we don't host the DNS there. for now I have pointed the domain to a VPS I spun up on my own infrastructure in aus
54:51 <Ysjoelfir> your internet was broken?
54:54 <therealazzurro> i figure dave is a kina "don't give a crap" person but from a <any technical>expert I kinda would have expected some awareness for the need of backups :D
55:09 <Ysjoelfir> ah
55:11 <Ysjoelfir> I see
55:47 <therealazzurro> DNS is not in your hands for eevblog.com?
56:07 <steve30> Its possible that he's used to the idea of things 'just working'. Sometimes things work extremely reliably and you become complacent.
56:33 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of failures... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLPxoZp0tDE I just had a little lough about that battery failure :D
57:12 <gnif> therealazzurro, I have access to the DNS records
57:48 <gnif> Before I met Dave, he felt that having a nearly outage of a website was a normal thing
58:11 <therealazzurro> ok I didn't understand the "we don't host the DNS there" thing, then..
58:13 <gnif> *near daily
58:37 <therealazzurro> lol that 9V battery had its graphite moderator come out like tchernobyl
59:32 <gnif> EEVBlog used to go through periods of "database unavailable/overloaded" or 500 errors almost every day, and his hosting provider (HostGator) convinced him this was the norm
59:38 <T3sl4> steve30: https://64.media.tumblr.com/6f4e041b2a2c1bd523c0c98dc6828698/a8b6a9165ca8c9d4-81/s500x750/8b7ecfd6d65cefa95e004ae134ba466f5abdb037.jpg
59:48 <Ysjoelfir> seriously?
59:51 <Ysjoelfir> that was so annoying...
59:52 <therealazzurro> haha yeah well it can be a normal thing for some websites. but if he is talking in his video about the biggest electronics community, he should imho bother at least for backups of the content.. :)
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00:30 <gnif> HostGator were at the time beyond terrible...
01:08 <gnif> In one instance a problem forum member tried to use a DMCA to take Dave offline... and HG actioned it immediately without contacting Dave
01:33 <brayden> lol bought by EIG
01:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: HostFission: @GorillaServers have just confirmed that the @eevblog servers "were located in the section with a high probability of water damage. So they will need to be physically inspected before they can be powered on." 😱
01:39 <brayden> hostgator is probably even worse now
01:50 <steve30> lol
01:52 <gnif> To make matters worse, they crippled the website to take it down... and when they tried to restore it none of the support staff knew what the first guy did and they couldnt fix it
02:05 <therealazzurro> SLA is something he probably doesn't have to bother much because no one is going to spin up some electronics forum like this in 2 days but backups he should bother about :D
02:08 <K> fuck-wads
02:16 <brayden> they should've just suspended it in cpanel :/
02:19 <K> wanted too say that.
02:31 <gnif> they did: chmod a-r /path/to/public_html && chattr +i /path/to/public_html
02:35 <therealazzurro> lol
02:40 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: another example relevant to a semi-recent conversation, https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/mk9s2m/i_am_so_fed_up_of_never_being_able_to_have_a/
02:55 <gnif> the immutable bit they couldnt fix
04:11 <gnif> Dave also upgraded to a "dedicated server", and paid a bomb for extra RAM, etc... I ssh into the new box and find it's a VPS
04:12 <therealazzurro> i was doing some webhosting business when I was a teenager using rented root servers and stuff and not even I was that bad LOL
04:25 <therealazzurro> haha
04:49 <brayden> thank god I wans't the only one doing it
04:53 <gnif> they tried to say it was still a dedicated server because it only had one VPS on it with access to the entire system's resources
05:07 <brayden> lol the "VDS" shit
05:13 <gnif> performance testing yielded otherwise
05:36 <therealazzurro> are you allowed to give some numbers on the hosting? like how many TB of traffic monthly, how many disk space, cpu power and ram is used and a magnitude of monthly expenses for all that?
06:06 <brayden> come on you got a whole dedicated xeon L5640 why can't you be happy!
06:08 <brayden> - VDS provider, probably
06:23 <brayden> i'd be curious about DB size
06:34 <therealazzurro> lol because L5640 is like westmere architecture from 2006
06:37 <gnif> sorry no, Dave let's me be fairly liberal with server configuration details where it won't compromise security, but financial, not. His notoriety gives him some leverage when it comes to making deals.
06:44 <brayden> wow therealazzurro, more like 2009
07:13 <brayden> 2010!
07:13 <therealazzurro> haha i guess so
07:36 <therealazzurro> wow so new!
07:45 <brayden> there are providers still hosting on westmere :(
07:50 <brayden> my homelab doesn't even run on westmere* anymore
07:53 <brayden> *except that one freenas box
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08:25 <therealazzurro> ok so leaving the financial part out, can you give some details on the rest of the server stuff? just wondering what it needs to run something like the eevblog forum and website
08:38 <therealazzurro> i threw out westmere from my home lab as well, this year
09:20 <therealazzurro> now running ivy bridge-ep
09:26 <Ysjoelfir> who is westmere and why do you hate him so much that you throw him out?
09:27 <brayden> wow fancy
09:28 <therealazzurro> and even haswell
09:31 <brayden> mix of sandy bridge and ivy bridge here
09:56 <gnif> The eevblog server is a mix of legacy and new software, which means we have to do things that today wouldn't even be considered
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10:19 <gnif> ie, SMF for a forum, where SMF (last I checked) are lucky to support PHP >= 5.6
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11:12 <gnif> we have three servers, one is his cpanel server (Dave wanted this as he knows it, let's him self manage his email, podcast stuff, etc)...
11:14 <brayden> apparently they have php 7 support
11:40 <chekhov_wfh> "high probability of water damage" - what kind of datacenter it is ? So they just have generators at the same building as servers, or how water may come to them ?
12:00 <gnif> the other two are the web/db servers...
12:19 <therealazzurro> chekhov_wfh: a cheap one, i guess
12:21 <brayden> chekhov_wfh, look at the building on google maps lol. it's basically a giant shed
12:22 <therealazzurro> have to google SMF
12:30 <gnif> They are running a HAProxy/Keepalived/Nginx/Couchbase/MariaDB/GlusterFS stack
12:51 <gnif> oh, and SphinxSearch
13:02 <brayden> the high probability of water damage thing is a canned statement they're giving out
13:23 <gnif> it's an Active-Active configuration with fail-over capability
13:34 <gnif> MariaDB is kept in sync by means of GlusterFS
13:43 <gnif> sorry, Galera
13:49 <therealazzurro> hm seems all reasonable
14:22 <gnif> it works awesome, provided the entire DC doesn't catch on fire...
14:28 <gnif> or go for a swim
14:34 <brayden> this is what I got from them
14:35 <brayden> Unfortunately, this server appears to be in the section with a high probability of
14:35 <brayden> water damage. So it will need to be physically inspected before it can be
14:35 <brayden> powered on.
14:35 <brayden> At this time we do not have a solid ETA on when services will be restored but
14:36 <brayden> know that the on-site techs are actively working on restoring them.
14:54 <gnif> yup, that's the exact reply I got also
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19:30 <K> FRESH MEAT!
20:12 <therealazzurro> if it is already built like that, it seems quite easy to split the nodes to two datacenters
20:30 <therealazzurro> especially with cloudflare in place
20:30 <gnif> yes, which is what we are looking at doing
20:48 <gnif> well, again, CF is only used for DNS, we don't use their proxy service
21:06 <gnif> too many missed DoS attacks we couldn't filter at the firewall
21:13 <therealazzurro> how about spin the second DC up now and join the drowned server as soon as it is back up?
21:23 <therealazzurro> (just thinking loud)
21:39 <gnif> already in progress... getting hardware online at short notice is more the issue
21:58 <gnif> now we know it's likely to be more then a few days we are progressing with this plan
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22:17 <therealazzurro> cool bananas
22:40 <therealazzurro> why is that an issue? or is it only an issue at the cheap hosters dave allows you to rent hardware? :D :D
23:00 <brayden> capital investment and turnaround time on a lot of providers is days anyway
23:16 <Wes44> I see daves servers have the potential to be water damaged.. he called it in the latest video >.<
23:21 <gnif> not an issue.. just the current probem we are dealing with :)
23:30 <gnif> *problem
23:31 <brayden> some places have automated provisioning, like OVH and hetzner
23:44 <brayden> but yeah.. OVH has a bit of a reputation too haha
23:58 <therealazzurro> i see
24:07 <brayden> webnx is seriously cheap
24:08 <gnif> knowing our luck, we will move to OVH and the rest of their infrastructure will catch on fire
24:48 <gnif> fully featured server migration... fire included
24:54 <brayden> the box I had was first gen 32 core epyc, 128gb of RAM and 4x1TB NVMe drives
24:57 <brayden> $199 USD iirc
24:59 <Wes44> i wonder if gorilla hosting has multiple data centers? perhaps dave could get the mirrored server hosted in a different phsyical location... we had a client some years ago now that suffered damaged to both their primary and backup server located in the same building.
25:11 <brayden> webnx has boxes in LA
25:13 <gnif> GorillaHosting are WebNX
25:26 <gnif> Dave is seeking it as an option at the moment
25:53 Join: numloxx ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
26:07 <Wes44> it sucks but i can sympathize, sometimes shtf
26:10 * gnif basically just has to sit and wait for a server to restore to
26:11 <numloxx> omg.. it's been more than a decade since i've used irc :D
26:24 <numloxx> found this from the website fire video
26:43 <losi> same here numloxx, bit of a trip down memory lane being on irc again
26:54 <gnif> well it's a great advertisement for dave's IRC server, lol
27:01 * numloxx cries in 16bits
27:08 <gnif> lets schedule this and do it yearly!
27:09 <brayden> didn't know this was here as I guess this channel is secret?
27:14 <brayden> I usually hang out at #whirlpool
27:21 <gnif> it's always been advertised on the website
27:30 <Wes44> yeah, ive not used irc since the 90s
27:35 <numloxx> which reminds me.. i still need to register my copy of mIRC
27:42 <Wes44> mirc? that is 90s
27:45 <K> and WinRar!
27:46 <Wes44> adilRC is free
27:48 <brayden> I mean it has the secret mode
27:51 <brayden> so it doesn't show up on /list
27:52 <numloxx> whats winrar?
27:54 <gnif> hexchat, open source and free
28:00 <brayden> wat
28:07 <brayden> I actually bought winrar
28:08 <brayden> true story
28:08 <Wes44> hexchat too
28:18 <Wes44> yeah I bought winzip when it first came out
28:19 <numloxx> pkunzip is what we used back then and lha
28:24 <gnif> ping Ysjoelfir.... this channel is unlisted?
28:46 <numloxx> trumpet winsock
28:49 <numloxx> tucows
28:54 <gnif> geocities
29:07 <Wes44> geocities?
29:08 <brayden> https://www.alien.net.au/irc/chanmodes.html
29:10 <brayden> this is really handy
29:13 <Wes44> did I actually invent a time machine
29:13 <brayden> but yeah this channel has +s
29:24 <numloxx> omg yes... wish i could remember my /CapeVarnaveral/ url.. so i could find a backup of my old site
30:11 <Wes44> need some more altavista.digital.com and building websites with frames ^_^
30:26 <numloxx> webcrawler, infoseek, jeeves
30:36 <gnif> HotBot
30:38 <brayden> it's too bad no major browser supports <blink> anymore
30:45 <brayden> wtf am I going to do with my frontpage sites now
30:54 <numloxx> back whn you HAD to type the entire url... http://www.yahoo.com/
30:57 <Wes44> haha, everyone go back to gopher
31:04 <gnif> here you go... 1990's in a nutshell
31:04 <gnif> https://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com/
31:06 <Wes44> and support your local bbs
31:26 <Wes44> speaking of worlds worst websites.. have you seen the website that runs a full copy of win95 through a modern brwoser :D
31:55 <gnif> indeed I have... also the fact that DosBox will run in your browser and you can run anything with it :)
32:02 <brayden> gnif, this doesn't feel real to me. it doesn't have a banner ad saying you're the 10 millionth visitor on the site
32:16 <Wes44> :D
32:18 <gnif> missing midi music too
32:19 <numloxx> https://hamster.dance/hamsterdance/
32:25 <Wes44> ah the midis
32:27 <losi> lol bbs, geocities, like a trip back to the 90's, next you'll be saying you use dialup internet :D
32:34 <Wes44> IRC really does bring out the nostalgia
32:52 <brayden> why did we stop using tables for layout?
32:53 <gnif> losi, it's how I manage EEVBlog :P
32:54 <brayden> it was clearly better!
33:04 <Wes44> anyone got any links to some good alt.binaries for the latest warez of office 97 :)
33:05 <Wes44> j/k
33:23 <numloxx> who used FOSI warez?
33:37 <brayden> wtf don't joke Wes44 I still use usenet for.. downloading linux iSOs
33:44 <gnif> https://classicreload.com/win3x-windows-311.html
34:07 <numloxx> http://fosi.ural.net/ :(
34:09 <Wes44> ah 3.1, fond memories
34:21 <K> ask Ampera or Halcyon about unlisted status
34:23 <numloxx> hmm do colour codes work with this?>
34:33 <numloxx> damn.. Ctrl + K wasn't it ?
34:39 <Wes44> NT4 was the standard windows in corporate when I got my first job in IT
35:06 <Wes44> although still a lot of legacy stuff kicking around
36:21 <brayden> Colours
36:23 <brayden> I guess they do
36:41 <gnif> that worked in hexchat too
37:08 <brayden> yeah I use hexchat
37:31 <brayden> pirated xchat, then all the weird variants like ychat. then xchat-wdk then hexchat
37:58 <brayden> thelounge is really good if you dare leave the house
38:10 <brayden> works great on mobile
38:29 <Wes44> dave needs to fire up that old ibm badboy he fixed the psu on and start up a temporary bbs
38:33 Join: Numloxx2 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
38:38 <Numloxx2> thats better
38:43 <Numloxx2> :)
38:48 <Numloxx2> yay, colour codes
38:48 <gnif> one of the earliest things I wrote when I was young was a DLL for mIRC that would enable it to connect to a MySQL database... so I could make a bot that let me cheat at a trivia game, lol
38:53 Quit: numloxx ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
38:58 Nick: Numloxx2 is now known as Numloxx
38:58 <Wes44> hah
39:09 <Numloxx> just installed mirc
39:20 <Numloxx> coz i wanted my colour codes
39:22 <brayden> >2021
39:23 <brayden> >mirc
39:24 * gnif starts looking for CVEs to exploit Numloxx 
39:28 <Wes44> fortuantly most of my database work is behind me
39:41 <Numloxx> oh yeah, u can seee my ip on irc ...
39:50 <brayden> nah hidden host
39:53 <Numloxx> modern chat systems hide that
39:53 <brayden> [04-07 17:38:33] * Numloxx2 ([email protected]) has joined #EEVblog
39:58 <Numloxx> oh ok
40:01 <gnif> haha, now we can
40:17 <Wes44> lool
40:22 <Wes44> let the games begin?
40:32 <Numloxx> no.. that's my ip..
40:39 <Wes44> i forgot now but something like /con/con would kill irc
40:43 <losi> Running Mirc make me look for Netspace Navigator, next ill be trying to search on Altavista or Excite lol
40:50 <K> pls do not do colors
40:59 <gnif> doesn't seem to resolve Numloxx... can you let us know what your IP is so we can check? :P
41:03 <Wes44> altavista was great
41:07 <brayden> the 5ca4c912 part is generated by the ircd
41:07 <Numloxx>  WHY NOT?
41:35 <Wes44> thats easy enough to overcome
41:37 <K> it makes text harder to read
42:06 <Wes44> guess it depends on client and display but i never used colors, they always a bit taboo
42:07 <Numloxx> ok
42:26 <gnif> reminds me of my kid.. when she was little we were playing a board game (Ticket to Ride), and I jokingly said "I can't figure out where your trying to go" and she instantly responded with the information...
42:32 <brayden> basically it hashes part of the host so bans and such still work but the key for it is secret so you can't reverse it
42:50 <brayden> if you go on networks like efnet they don't do that and your IP will be exposed lol
42:58 <Numloxx> oh ok
43:10 <Wes44> it can be easily overcome
43:21 <Numloxx> who used to go on oz.org irc?
43:32 <Numloxx> i used to hang in #perth_rage
43:57 <brayden> idk I guess you could bruteforce it but who really cares
44:04 <losi> At least now days most of us are behind NAT, back in the day, was on dialup with a Live IP, on a Windows 9x machine lol
44:10 <brayden> not even sure there's enough info there to derive the original?
44:19 <Numloxx> i remember there used to be pIRC and mIRC.. you were 1 of the other
44:28 <Wes44> could test my theory :P
44:44 <Numloxx> brayden why don't you just get me to type +++ATH0 ?
45:03 <gnif> it's easy to get the IP of people in a chat though... I did it once to expose someone pretending to be official EEVBlog chat on one of those p2p chat platforms... was collecting funds via bitcoin, etc
45:18 <gnif> just post a link to a dead URL and watch the logs :)
45:19 <Wes44> damn
45:25 * brayden rapidly duckduckgoes that to try and not look stupid
45:29 <brayden> oh hayes modems
45:31 <Wes44> i think it would be easier to just put some port monitor on
45:33 <Wes44> and dcc the user
45:34 <brayden> yeah I'm not *that* old Numloxx
45:36 <Wes44> :P
45:44 <gnif> this wasn't irc
45:47 <Wes44> aaah
46:02 <gnif> modern encrypted p2p chat program, can't remember the name, but it looks like discord/slack
46:04 <Wes44> that sucks though
46:16 <brayden> lol media previewing is terrible
46:18 <Wes44> you get them i take it
46:25 <gnif> yup
46:27 <Wes44> nice
46:45 <brayden> matrix?
46:53 <brayden> well that's not p2p tho
46:55 <brayden> hmm
46:56 <steve30000> hehe
47:05 <K> we have a discord server fwiw
47:08 <gnif> I think that's it... my bad if it's not p2p2
47:29 <gnif> I only made an account to stop the abuse when it was reported
47:37 <brayden> yeah clients aren't p2p but servers you connect to are federated so you can access chats on otehr instances
48:00 * Numloxx slaps brayden around a bit with a large trout
48:05 <Numloxx> hahaha, it still works
48:09 * Wes44 slaps Numloxx with the power of greyskull
48:10 <brayden> D:
48:13 <Wes44> it sure does
48:32 <therealazzurro> just read through all of this 90s glory and I'm asking myself: WHO has stopped using tables for layouting websites??!
48:37 <Numloxx> trying to think of a really cool mirc script i used to use.. had so much cool stuff
48:42 <gnif> I actually recorded the entire session, screen cap, etc... and when the idiot realised who I was and that I could expose him, he tried to encrypt the chat (which kills the history)...
49:20 <Wes44> guilty right there
49:45 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir when the tea is too hot https://i.redd.it/0wdcyvvlhnr61.jpg
50:01 <Andre> mIRC? Never liked it... used it my first week on IRC... then I switched to xchat. (and these days hexchat)
50:39 <Numloxx> xchat... ahh linux..
50:40 <gnif> I liked BitchX
51:06 <Numloxx> ahh the text based chat.. i remember that
51:14 <Andre> Back in the days, 2005, I bought a license to the shareware windows version...
51:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I got a photo from within the @GorillaServers #WebNX data center! https://t.co/p2AUbN5mqP
51:31 <Numloxx> i'll be fu**ed if I could remember any bitchx keys
51:50 <Wes44> lool
53:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: https://t.co/SrwMy5mph4
55:35 <therealazzurro> lol
56:57 <Wes44> i do miss the days when some of the most popular IRC servers had 100k+ concurrent people
57:35 <brayden> yeah though at least the channels that are still somewhat active are pretty cosy now
58:14 <brayden> the abuse has gone down a lot too
58:20 <therealazzurro> how would one keep up with 100k+ ppl writing stuff
58:42 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4
58:43 <brayden> like I remember every other day it felt like channels were getting flooded and shit
58:44 <brayden> nobody cares now
58:50 <Ysjoelfir> where is the camera, I just went to make some tea
59:06 * T3sl4 glances away nervously
00:43 <K> teapot violence is nothing to laugh about!
00:46 <Wes44> thery were all in separate channels of course, maybe upto a 1000 in popular channels, but such variety
00:52 <K> it could happen to anyone!
01:10 Quit: Wes44 ([email protected]) EOF from client
01:12 <T3sl4> hello kettle
01:16 <Ysjoelfir> indeed xD
01:22 Join: Wes44 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
03:08 <Numloxx> Teapot lives matter!
03:23 <Numloxx> Coffee pot lives matter!
11:37 <T3sl4> all beverages matter, or something
12:08 <gnif> fluid matters... it's in the servers
13:30 Quit: losi ([email protected]) Connection closed
14:10 <steve30> coffee ftw
14:59 <gnif> I hope someone in Utah is watching the dumpster at the WebNX building... sure to have some interesting hardware deposited
15:20 Quit: chekhov_wfh ([email protected]) Connection closed
16:06 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsk_EeKhc9I
16:16 Join: chekhov_wfh ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
17:09 <T3sl4> hehe
19:04 * Ampera yawn deluges
20:36 * T3sl4 gleeks on Ampera
20:53 * Ampera greeks on T3sl4 
20:58 <steve30000> "31–60 of about 41" <-- I see youtube can count today.
21:05 <T3sl4> kappa
22:17 Nick: steve30000 is now known as steve30
24:19 <Wes44> daves probably already on his way
24:28 <Wes44> dumpster diving live from utah
28:27 <Ysjoelfir> well.,.. 41 is somewhere in between 31 to 60 :D
29:30 <steve30> I'm just browsing the Youtube audio library
30:18 * Numloxx farts in T3sl4's direction
30:29 <Numloxx> sorry.. u were just there...
30:39 <T3sl4> your mother was a hamster!
30:41 <Ysjoelfir> thats fine, T3sl4 likes that
31:13 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir smells of elderberries!
31:34 <Ysjoelfir> Elderberryblossom.
32:23 <T3sl4> as in honey, for tea?
32:36 <gnif> Elderblossoms?
32:46 <T3sl4> blossomberry?
32:58 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
34:04 <hsn> EEVBlog, convert 41" to cm
34:12 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 41" to cm
34:12 <EEVBlog> The result is: 104.14 cm
34:19 <hsn> steve30, 104.14
37:31 Join: AlfBaz ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
38:20 <AlfBaz> Howdy all
38:31 * T3sl4 hugs AlfBaz
39:57 <K> no biting!
40:20 * T3sl4 closes hsn's open quotation marks
41:08 * Ysjoelfir bites into K 's right small toe
41:53 <T3sl4> hey, you'll take it off!
42:06 * T3sl4 recalls codyslab's "biting sodium" vid
42:57 <Ysjoelfir> xD
43:04 * Ysjoelfir is not sodium
45:01 <T3sl4> ruh roh, a fire truck wailing outside, at this hour?
45:17 <rust_collector> tell them to go somewhere else
45:33 <T3sl4> people are trying to sleep here! probably. i wouldn't know
45:34 <Ysjoelfir> so what time is it at your place, T3sl4?
45:49 <T3sl4> quarter to 6
45:51 <gnif> fire truck = water... water + sodium... hrmm
46:54 <T3sl4> i'm gonna have to say "Na" to that
47:03 <Ysjoelfir> Ni!
47:25 <K> K
47:36 <AlfBaz> H2O + Na = NaOH + H2, Doesn't look that bad
48:03 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, mrs. spouse asks if you know norwegian horror authors.
48:26 <K> personally?
48:36 <Ysjoelfir> no, by name :D
48:54 <rust_collector> well, uhm, would I have had to write it down, or just create fear?
49:50 <AlfBaz> Just finished watching Ragnarok. Not exactly a horror story but its Norwegian
49:51 <T3sl4> AlfBaz: in fact, you don't look at all once it gets in your eyes!
50:32 <AlfBaz> :P
50:59 * Ampera lights a fire in the channel's fireplace, throws some waterlogged EEVBlog server on it for good measure
51:11 <K> Na + Na + Na + Na = Batman
51:24 <AlfBaz> LOL
51:42 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/OS7dcKa.jpg
52:10 <rust_collector> hmm, Ysjoelfir no, I am not sure if we do horror things here...
52:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D okay, I tell her that^^
53:10 <T3sl4> the best periodic table joke, https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-08-26
53:38 <AlfBaz> T3s14 so carol now has an invisible dog?
54:04 <T3sl4> on a very stiff leash
54:54 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir all I can find on the intraweb is tom egeland, and andré bjerke (bernhard borge)
55:23 <Ysjoelfir> thanks, I tell her that as well :)
55:53 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
56:43 Join: OldGit ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
56:45 <Ysjoelfir> she asked me to say thanks
57:02 <rust_collector> ok. say you did
58:17 <Ysjoelfir> I did that as well :P
58:40 <rust_collector> you are such a good boy
58:52 <Ysjoelfir> lol
59:30 * T3sl4 gives Ysjoelfir a treat
00:23 <AlfBaz> and now fo an on topic question. What did one electron say to the other electron?
01:05 <K> we don't do that here.
01:06 <AlfBaz> Dont get excited youll only put yourself into a state
01:07 <rust_collector> you can sleep on the couch tonight?
01:22 <gnif> stop being so negative
01:35 <AlfBaz> bada tshh
02:52 <AlfBaz> looses it's negativity when it enters the warmth of an atom
03:21 * T3sl4 slaps AlfBaz so hard they lose an electron
03:38 <AlfBaz> :D
03:48 <T3sl4> "that hurt"
03:49 <T3sl4> are you positive?
04:47 * Ampera puts T3sl4's hand underneath a SEM
06:39 <Ampera> We're 2 people away from finally reaching the milestone of having more people than the AfterNET channel
06:42 <Ampera> quick, someone make some alts
07:27 <AlfBaz> You sure we wont brake the IRC
07:56 <Ampera> Don't stop us now
08:14 <AlfBaz> Go Freddy!!!
10:41 <T3sl4> we're having such a good time
12:12 <AlfBaz> Just saw a channel called randon its description says no more masks. Thinking of popping in and saying "Mask up mother f*ckers" :P
12:34 Join: rc-rc ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
13:02 <rc-rc> boioing!
13:25 * T3sl4 hookshots over to rc-rc
21:23 <rc-rc> arrgh, phones...
22:01 Quit: rc-rc ([email protected]) Quit: leaving
24:12 <gnif> I joined the EEVBlog discord... 164 people there... dead silent
26:13 <therealazzurro> discord is nerd-wannabe web based modern pile of steaming dog turd stuff
26:36 <T3sl4> but you can embed memes
26:58 <therealazzurro> i'd embed memes in discord users faces
28:09 <therealazzurro> well, people present here excluded, I guess
30:39 <Ysjoelfir> as long as its not discourse.....
30:53 <gnif> Skype!
31:07 <T3sl4> fuck microsoft
31:14 <gnif> hahaha
32:28 <therealazzurro> this
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00:33 <smb784> Man, this whole "our servers burned to ash" thing is a real pain in the ass!
01:27 <K> we should file a complaint!
01:30 <K> in triplicate!
01:40 <smb784> I concur
02:06 <coppice> if its a pain in the ass, don't stand so close to the fire
02:41 <K> maybe some condiment is in order
02:47 <K> wait, that not right word
03:11 <smb784> if only gorilla servers had listened to DAVE and installed solar power instead of greasy diesel generators they might not have burned up their server farm!
03:27 <K> ointment!
03:50 Quit: AlfBaz ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
04:12 <K> install solar roads and harness power of youtube comments
05:06 <coppice> install donkeys and treadmills
06:45 Join: nuclearcatlb ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
06:47 <coppice> the donkeys can rest during daylight, and only get worked when the sun goes down, and the solar fails
07:02 <nuclearcatlb> Hi All!
07:25 <nuclearcatlb> Good old IRC, the only missing to have EEVBlog Fidonet node :)
08:16 <Seng> Hey, I'm building a circuit, which will be battery powered. I've been running it of 5V on breadboard (from a USB supply) but I don't really need 5V. Could just as well run of 3.3V. I know battery life depends on capacity and not voltage, yet I suspect running the circuit of a 9V battery using a LDO regulator to 3.3V will increase it's running time over just using two 1.5V button cell (and no regulator). Is this assumption correct?
10:03 <T3sl4> Seng: i mean, a 9V has more mAh than a button cell, but that depends how big a button
10:20 <smb784> assume perfect conversion from 9 V to 3.3V, this gives you about a 2.7 fold improvement in mAh
10:34 <T3sl4> you need a switching reg to use the extra voltage, otherwise you're just wasting it
10:53 <smb784> so multiply 9V battery mAh by 2.7, and compare that to the mAh of a AA battery and that will give you an idea of the comparison between the two
11:13 <T3sl4> AA?
11:22 <smb784> err, button cell sorry
11:41 <smb784> saw 1.5V, assumed AA
12:37 Part: dl6lr ([email protected]) from #EEVblog
12:43 <Seng> Might as well be a single 3V CR2032 instead of 2x LR44. Preferably the one 2032 because size.
12:45 <T3sl4> 3V coin cell would be better, 2032 has as much mAh as a 9V but no wasted V
12:58 <smb784> but as T3sl4 says, you'll need a switching regulator to get good conversion, and that might not be as efficient (like 75% or higher maybe)
13:12 Join: dl6lr ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
13:16 <smb784> yeah, a CR2032 is definitely the way to go
13:24 Part: dl6lr ([email protected]) from #EEVblog
13:34 <T3sl4> best would be 3 x AAA or something like that, the nominal 4.5V is more than enough, and the minimum 2.25V is.. maybe not enough anymore, but somewhere in there
13:55 <T3sl4> i mean, other than a proper 3.7V lithium ;)
14:36 <Seng> Now you mention it. I might actually need more than 3V.. Hmm.. Back to thinking (:
15:10 <Seng> I'm new to this, so chaining it all together while building and planning doesn't come easy yet :b
15:22 <T3sl4> it's a learning curve
15:30 <smb784> go with 3.7V lithium if 3.7V is enough
15:37 <smb784> if not, go with 3 AAs
16:18 <smb784> assuming size is not an issue for you
17:09 <smb784> 18650s are great for capacity, can have capacities in the many thousands of mAh, and naturally supply 3.7V. They are a bit big though, that may be a deal breaker
17:23 <Seng> About the regulator. The switching regulator will turn on/off the power so fast that it looks like only 3.3V on the output. Therefore using most of the capacity of the 9V bat. Whereas a (linear?) regulator would just burn the excess 5.7V into losses?
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17:44 <dl6lr> re
18:09 <T3sl4> not just turning it on and off, but switching it into a filter so it's never dropping much voltage
18:34 <Seng> smb784, final project is done with through hole components on perfboard. Size isn't super critical, but I'd like to keep it relatively "small" :)
19:15 <Seng> like an RC low pass filter?
19:21 <T3sl4> LC
19:26 <smb784> yeah it switches fast, but that switching is rectified through filters & diodes so it produces a steady voltage
19:44 <Seng> Gotcha!
19:47 <T3sl4> R can only dissipate power, L and C can conserve it. but they give back the extra energy immediately, so there's a catch diode in there too
19:54 <T3sl4> so you get the usual buck converter topology
20:22 <smb784> their conversion efficiency depends on load
20:46 <coppice> Elsie Converter is such an efficient worker
23:30 <hsn> https://youtu.be/DZ7t51_pduM
23:37 <hsn> ☢️Going to the Chernobyl Reactor Tunnels / Busted by Security @SuperSus almost drown
23:38 <T3sl4> wololo
25:22 * Ysjoelfir changes color and converts to T3sl4
26:07 <T3sl4> success, a fresh cathode follower!
26:45 <coppice> pop it in the freezer while its still fresh
27:11 <Ysjoelfir> all your controll grids are belong to us
29:49 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds just a little bit clickbaity
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31:22 <AlfBaz> We just had a massice thunder storm, knocked out power for a few seconds
31:38 <T3sl4> nice
32:05 <AlfBaz> Yeah captured the strike on the phone
32:07 <Ysjoelfir> I can't remember when we had a power outage the last time
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34:17 <AlfBaz> Love to know what happened the lights went out all over town for a few seconds and then came back on before the thunder has stopped. Must be one hell sized MOV :P
34:20 <gnif> we get them frequently enough that I invested in off-grid solar
35:40 <AlfBaz> We don't get many down here. Most of them are planned outages to fix shit
36:11 <T3sl4> usually intermittent power is a line shorting out, opening then reclosing
36:25 <AlfBaz> Your out in the blie mountains aren't you gnif?
36:26 <T3sl4> if the line is still shorted, it'll come back on for a second then stay down for oh an hour or two
36:29 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, no
36:35 <hsn> it bite u if u didnt click it
36:53 <coppice> bill paid, bill not paid, bill paid
36:58 <gnif> AlfBaz, Blue Mountains :)
37:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol
38:00 <gnif> T3sl4, yes, that's what we get here... lots of Gum trees that drop crap onto the lines, usually it just restarts, but sometimes power drops for a while
38:32 <gnif> with the recent floods we lost power for 10 hours, once before that we had no power for 3 days
38:56 <AlfBaz> That would of been the fires yes?
39:06 <Kuschelpony> good day
39:43 <AlfBaz> We're down the Illawarra not much happens down here
39:45 <gnif> no, we had power throughout the fires, it was a prior storm
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40:12 <AlfBaz> 10 days for a storm... WOW
40:22 <AlfBaz> oops soory 3 days
40:25 <gnif> lol
40:47 <AlfBaz> 10hrs
41:13 <gnif> yeah, understandable though, a tree took out a line, and killed a woman who was driving
41:34 <AlfBaz> Not good
41:39 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. pony
41:42 <gnif> so not only was it investigated, etc... they got in and cut a whole heap of dangerous trees down
42:11 <T3sl4> oof
42:17 <Kuschelpony> good evening from german timezone
42:29 <K> evil trees
42:33 <Kuschelpony> just a quick lunch breakl and toi say Hello to the channel
42:39 <rust_collector> that is just because you wake up in the middle of the night, lol
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42:56 <T3sl4> wood ash is full of potassium
43:00 <T3sl4> so, i can see your point
43:08 <AlfBaz> A couple of years back some guy was driving down Mnt Ousley, a road I travel daily when the wind broke a branch went through his windscreen and killed him
43:24 <gnif> wow, terrible thing
43:43 <K> even trees try to kill you down there, it sems
43:47 * Ysjoelfir is eating breakfast in german timezone
44:02 <AlfBaz> Fat drop bears ;P
44:28 <gnif> When I was young my mother and I were driving down to Wollongong, tree dropped a branch coming down Macquarie Pass and smashed out our windscreen...
44:28 <T3sl4> up here we have deer strikes. down there you have drop bear strikes. figures
44:39 <gnif> wasn't hurt, but was super cold to drive the remainder
44:41 * rust_collector is cooking coffee in probably also the german time zone
45:00 <Ysjoelfir> no. you're in the danish timezone!
45:12 <T3sl4> scary
45:16 <rust_collector> oh. very retro
45:26 <Ysjoelfir> :P
46:03 <gnif> wombat's scare me...
46:29 <T3sl4> only childhood tree fall story i have is, there was a big storm and a old tree blew down at the, think it was the college campus actually, so we went down there and climbed all up and down it
46:44 <T3sl4> gnif: don't trust anyone whose shit is cubed?
46:46 <gnif> huge heavy chunk of muscle that goes under the car and launches it, or tears off your steering/suspension arms
47:10 <K> it is wombat combat!
47:36 <gnif> super unpredictable, and hard to spot
47:37 <AlfBaz> I worked up on the mountains near here on night shift. Occasionaly I had to go dwon the hill, middle of the bush, midle of the night, you'd shine your torch into the bush and there'd be these reflective whitish blue eyes staring back at deer head height with the occasional red set of eyse at fox head height. Freaky as fuck when you're on your own
48:15 <gnif> lo
48:17 <gnif> l
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48:38 * T3sl4 noogies arch
48:53 <arch> :3
49:35 <rust_collector> I am thinking about cutting off the edges of the monitors foot, so I can put it further out on the edge of the bench
52:28 <AlfBaz> I'm outa here gents gotta download a movie I refuse to rent for 30 bucks, I own enough movies I hate
52:36 <rust_collector> oh, and I have issues with the power steering again. I wonder what it is that keeps the motor from starting up. I can just spin it up with a finger, and it keeps running
52:50 <arch> arr harr
52:53 <T3sl4> arrr /
53:26 * Ampera gets AlfBaz's galleon
53:28 <gnif> AlfBaz: https://i.redd.it/ndpbqkrwe1s21.png
53:48 <AlfBaz> But I dont wanna be a pirate (sienfeld)
54:02 <smb784> Down here in texas its a miracle we have any trees at all, given the frequency and ferocity of the storms
54:28 <Ysjoelfir> I did exactly that once with an old monitor. and I bolted it to the desk.
54:30 <smb784> the ones that do survive tend not to drop many limbs. They would go extinct if they were prone to it
54:36 Quit: AlfBaz ([email protected]) Connection closed
54:39 <gnif> not surprised, you likely burnt what few of them you had left in our winter
54:44 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, that is an idea
54:50 <gnif> *your
54:57 Quit: arch ([email protected]) EOF from client
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55:29 <smb784> that along with all our fences, childrens toys, tires, etc
55:34 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
55:46 <arch> all my exes live in texas...
55:59 <arch> and that's why hang my hat in Tennessee
56:01 <Ampera> I have the ambition to move to Texas some day
56:05 <Ampera> it seems a fair bit nicer than NY
56:19 <smb784> in every way except the weather maybe
56:21 <arch> anywhere is nicer than NY
56:23 <gnif> WINDOWS.EXE, EXPLORER.EXE....
56:28 <T3sl4> Ampera: the only things that come out of texas, tho
56:37 <arch> beef?
56:43 <T3sl4> steers and queers
56:50 <arch> huehue
56:52 <Ampera> smb784, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/789139699787628564/20201217_092704new.jpg
56:54 <Ampera> you sure?
57:31 <smb784> well
57:40 <Ampera> you come up here and help us shovel our cars out
57:43 <smb784> at least your infrastructure can handle that level of snow
57:46 <rust_collector> through low inferior chip, cost is low, quality is not guaranteed.... that is good to see in a manual
57:49 <Ampera> it'll probably go from 4 hours down to 3 with your help
57:51 <Ampera> HAHAHAHA
57:52 <Ampera> HAHAHA
57:54 <Ampera> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
57:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
58:00 <Ampera> handle my ass
58:08 <Ampera> we didn't get our street cleared for days
58:22 <smb784> well, your entire power grid didn't collapse. your neighbors didn't freeze to death in their homes. So there's that
58:24 <gnif> handle your own ass thankyou!
58:29 <Ampera> fair enough
58:51 <Ampera> but if any of our neighbors had an emergency
59:03 <Ampera> well, let's just say the emergency services don't have any snowmobiles here
59:12 <rust_collector> well, how low inferior can a chip be?
59:32 <Ampera> so I imagine a few people probably died just from ambulances having to swim through 2 feet of snow just to get there
00:05 <Ampera> gnif, no problem, it's more than you could handle anyways
00:07 <Ampera> >:D
00:31 <smb784> indeed
00:44 <Ampera> that storm was so damn bad
01:00 <Ampera> it did straight up take two people, my dad and I, to clear out /one/ car
01:09 <Ampera> with snow shovels, big ones too
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01:30 <Ysjoelfir> I assume a lot, if they have the urge to write it into a manual oO
01:30 <Ampera> *two people an hour
01:33 <Ampera> sorry, I'm half a sleep
01:59 <smb784> i'll take the snow though. its shit like this that gives us the bad weather reputation:
02:01 <smb784> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hrhxlAXkNo&ab_channel=KVUE
02:11 <smb784> hence the lack of trees
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02:55 <Ampera> that storm is older than I am though
03:00 <T3sl4> snow also keeps the bugs down
03:10 <rust_collector> some times, I wonder if they have teams of people, who work on getting the best worst chinglish.
03:12 <Ampera> we get inundated every year
03:26 <Ampera> people are too lazy and cheap to shovel their anything too
03:33 <Ampera> so if you try to go anywhere you'll probably slip on your ass and die
03:35 <arch> why not make houses out of bricks instead of cardboard?
03:38 <T3sl4> Ampera is under lake effect, or uh, the tail of it or something? so ridiculous snows are just the normal over there
03:39 <smb784> we get one every year, that one leaps to mind because it happened to me lol
03:45 <Ampera> or have to take a walking stick and boots with you to climb your way across the sidewalks
04:01 <Ampera> It's weird, because we get fuck all rain around here
04:17 <Ampera> we straight up don't have rainstorms that last longer than five/ten minutes
05:14 <arch> sounds like New Zealand, or the UK
05:15 <T3sl4> classic midwestern storms, ten minutes of blast then blue skies the rest of the day
05:48 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/cICBQGj
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06:29 <Ampera> Here's it's 10 minutes of god coming on down here and weeping for noah, and then a few hours of no sun and drizzle
06:43 <rust_collector> oh well. so, I wonder if I will look for a new steering pump, which means I will have one to play with. I guess I could use it on the press or something. but it needs a pretty beefy-ish power supply. maybe it would be best to just use a battery
07:12 <Ampera> sometimes you get a dozen 10 minute torrentials in a day, separated by 30 minutes or so each
07:26 <Ampera> or even better, you'll have days where you get 10 minute storms, followed by sun, and repeat another dozen times
08:40 <rust_collector> or maybe even better, just keep using the hand pump
09:29 <Ysjoelfir> hand action? booooring!
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17:25 <Ysjoelfir> seriously?
17:35 <Ysjoelfir> one temp ban wasn't enough?
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20:42 <T3sl4> bdunham7 pls
22:02 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: I had to ban someone last night, they were doing the same thing, quitting and joining over and over
22:14 <Ysjoelfir> thats the stupid kiwi IRC
22:21 <electrohead> yeah, I hate it, too
22:23 <electrohead> lol
22:40 <Ysjoelfir> we tried it out how this reconnecting shit happenes, but I couldn't make that happen at all
24:16 <arch> lol i have all the join/part messages disabled, so i dont see any funkyness
25:17 <electrohead> let me go look at who owns the majority of that block, I have a hunch it maybe a cellular provider?
25:55 <electrohead> OrgName: Frontier Communications Corporation
26:11 <electrohead> ok, was wrong about the cellular provider
26:41 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=213212686
28:46 <Ysjoelfir> I tried it on my phone as well, nope, thats not the reason
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30:36 <Ysjoelfir> I like that one
30:59 <Ysjoelfir> though I would never buy it
31:06 <Ysjoelfir> I just like the look
31:12 <rust_collector> yeah, they are not just weird. but mostly that, and they are expensive
31:22 <Ysjoelfir> And french.
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31:36 <rust_collector> well, that is not always bad.
32:06 <rust_collector> those were weird, even for being french, so it flips over, and works ok
33:02 <rust_collector> I sort of like the xm. they are not as weird-french as the cx, but they are pretty nice to drive
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35:18 <Ysjoelfir> bdunham7, last chance to fix your damn kiwi IRC. if you part now, you're gone.
35:40 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have a hx
36:05 <rust_collector> heh, yes, that is also a thing.
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36:06 * electrohead kicks Ampera
36:13 * Ysjoelfir licks Ampera
36:17 <rust_collector> why not drive an actual shed
36:26 * T3sl4 sniffs Ampera
36:41 <therealazzurro> ugh
36:44 <Ampera> was I still sending messages or something?
36:46 <Ampera> I'm not sure why you banned me
36:53 * K stuffs EEVBlog
36:54 <Ysjoelfir> yep. like a million
37:00 <Ampera> I noticed hexchat's network send queue only now is clearing
37:02 <T3sl4> they were filtering through slowly and continuously
37:04 <K> we was about to kline yous
37:17 <Ampera> It was instant on my side
37:27 <Ampera> something along the way must have throttled it
37:27 <K> ungodly spam.
37:31 <Ysjoelfir> Recently we passed a HX that was carried on a trailer (behind a suprisingly small car, like a polo-size...). I was like "look, Kelly, they are delivering your new car!"
37:35 <Ysjoelfir> she was not convinced
37:38 <electrohead> Ampera: yeah man, you would rejoin, and it kept going and going, lol
37:39 <Ampera> that wasn't in this channel was it?
37:46 <T3sl4> looks to be 2-4 secs in fact
38:01 <Ampera> it wasn't even that many messages
38:05 <rust_collector> how did she react when you got home?
38:06 <rust_collector> lol
38:08 <Ampera> maybe 40 or 80
38:23 <Ysjoelfir> lol
38:46 <Ampera> I wonder if IRC itself has a wait/ready system that prevents messages from being sent too fast
39:30 <Ampera> in fact I see * #0x455 :Cannot send to channel (no external messages) a bunch in the austnet root buffer
39:35 <Ampera> or whatever it's called
40:28 <rust_collector> I do wonder if they handle like they look. it could be a thing to stick a little diesel in one, for maximum camping... hmmhmmhmh hm
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41:16 <rust_collector> but if it is much more scary than the old mercedes... maybe not
42:11 <Ysjoelfir> I actuallly enjoyed driving the 400 series mercedes
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42:55 <rust_collector> I did too, the 600 or whatever it was
43:03 <Ysjoelfir> bye!
43:13 <rust_collector> but it still handles like butter on the sun
43:17 <Ysjoelfir> the 600 was basicallt the same chassis, just a bigger engine and more weight
43:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, yes. but.. manageable :D
43:34 <rust_collector> it was only ok because it had a top speed of 95
43:43 <Ysjoelfir> oh, that much?
43:45 <Ysjoelfir> I never got 80
43:56 <K> irc servers hav flood protection
43:57 <Ysjoelfir> and if I had to go uphill..... 20
44:04 <Ampera> it was something
44:05 <K> sometimes quite agressive
44:11 <Ampera> could have even been my znc
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44:20 <rust_collector> it would do 95, if you had time. if you went down a steep hill, it would do 95
44:45 <rust_collector> it was not that bad going up, but it was nowhere close to fast
45:08 <Ysjoelfir> which was no wonder as it was 3.2 tons and a 90ps naturally aspirated gas engine....
45:26 <Ysjoelfir> erm, 90hp
46:01 <rust_collector> but yes, mine did have an unknown industrial engine. the old mercedes guy had never seen one like it.
46:10 <rust_collector> so who knows
48:03 <Ysjoelfir> The man at the gas station always enjoyed when I came around
48:39 <rust_collector> he would. you got half of his sales for the month
50:56 <rust_collector> next time, you should get a magirus. I am sure he would like that too
51:39 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have one of the aircooled magirus. the big ones.
51:50 <Ysjoelfir> but I assume gas prices are a big concern here.
52:05 <Ysjoelfir> even the 24 to 26 liters from the benz were a bit much
52:10 <rust_collector> meh, diesel is cheap.
52:12 <Ysjoelfir> erm, daimler
52:17 <Ysjoelfir> not in germanistan.
52:32 <Ysjoelfir> diesel is 1.36 while E10 is 1.50 right now
52:41 <Ysjoelfir> so not that cheap anymore.
52:50 <rust_collector> it is, if you compare to trying to run a large truck on gas
53:22 <Ysjoelfir> you got a point
53:23 <rust_collector> they use almost unlimited amounts of gas, if you let it.
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54:36 <rust_collector> no that the old deutz is very efficient, by todays standards, but they are very low powered, so it does limit how much fuel they can use
55:20 <rust_collector> they are similar to the detroit in some ways, very efficient in converting fuel to noise
55:55 <Ysjoelfir> true. I always wondered a bit why old trucks were so.... weak in terms of motor power. like, who thought that stuffing a 60HP taxi engine into a 6 ton transporter would be a great idea? ok, damiler did obviously, but.... why?
56:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol. yes, the noise is..... interesting. I drove with two thick blankets over the motor cover to make it somehow manageable
56:55 <rust_collector> it was a german thing, I believe. as long as you could get up to speed, in time to slow down again, it was good enough
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