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11:53 <K> > Shipping time: 21 - 23 workdays
11:56 <K> u wot
27:41 <Jens> So this place is a well guarded secret it seems. Only noticed it on Daves datacenter fire video.
28:36 <steve30> I don't think dave really promotes it as he doesn't seem to like IRC
29:17 <Jens> Pfft. It's the original social media, man.
35:28 <K> yay, fresh meat.
40:45 <Ysjoelfir> meat? where!?
40:59 * Ysjoelfir gnaws on K 's leg
41:37 <Jens> Well, I don't know how fresh any more :)
46:10 <K> we've seen worse.
17:41 <Ampera> Dave has mentioned the IRC numerous times on Twitter
17:48 <Ampera> and it's been mentioned on the forums a good bit too
17:58 <Ampera> it's just that nobody's paid much attention >:D
18:06 <Ampera> It's good that people do now, though
18:21 <Ampera> we should have a datacenter fire more often, it's really livened this place up
18:56 <steve30> Jens, we accumulated a handful of new users as a result of the forum outage
23:53 <Jens> Nice. Maybe someone set the fire on purpose, to drive users to IRC.
23:56 <Jens> *points to head*
24:15 * steve30 meows innocently
26:01 Quit: therealazzurro ([email protected]) Connection closed
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39:44 <rust_collector> BOOBIES!
42:07 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/B4wYsfN.gif
42:22 <T3sl4> i love boobys
42:25 <T3sl4> or a pair of great tits
43:11 <rust_collector> ok
45:03 <coppice> blue booby. must be cold
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47:29 <Ampera> T3sl4, you have the breast jokes
48:13 <coppice> you'll often find some great tits in our garden
48:15 <Ampera> I'm in the mood for some C
48:47 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
48:50 <coppice> are you going to work hard on that C, or just coast?
48:55 * T3sl4 sells Ampera C shells 
49:09 * Ampera bashes T3sl4 upside the head
49:31 <Ampera> I have a neat idea for a widget toolkit thing, so I want to see if I can make something that does what I think
54:56 <hsn> electrohead: https://youtu.be/rsCul1sp4hQ
59:00 <rust_collector> hmm, I think I will go watch mr steves malebag
59:26 <steve30> enjoy
59:52 <rust_collector> well, so far, it is very quiet.
01:27 <Ysjoelfir> rusty!
01:32 <Ysjoelfir> A terrible thing happened!
01:45 <Ampera> you found your virginity again
02:11 <Ysjoelfir> That would indeed be terrible
02:15 <Ysjoelfir> no.
02:19 <Ysjoelfir> I ran out of Piffi!
03:24 <rust_collector> HAHA! I can not really remember what that was like. I quit using it decades ago, because... reasons
03:39 <Ysjoelfir> maybe because its basically... 95% MSG?
03:57 <rust_collector> but yes yes...yes... I know... I will see if they still make that, and put it in the box
04:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:26 <Ysjoelfir> do they make that in big refill bags?
04:49 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: terrible? I think there could be a lot of money in being a born again virgin
04:53 <rust_collector> I have no idea, I have not seen piffi in yers
06:40 <Ysjoelfir> hah! found a recipe!
06:50 <Ysjoelfir> coppice: well, yes. if I would be a woman probably.
07:36 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: trans is very much in fashion right now
09:05 <Ysjoelfir> ...... no. I am honored by your desire for me, but I have to deny.
10:04 <rust_collector> take 95 grams of msg, and 5grams of salt, and that is it?
11:26 <Ysjoelfir> I found one without any MSG. its a mix of several spices. chili, paprika, pepper, onion, garlic, ... erm... the.... erm.... celeriac thing, muskat, coriander, kardamom and cloves. oh and salt. lots of it.
12:33 <rust_collector> so, you are saying it is vegeta, in proper powder form?
14:11 <Ysjoelfir> that guy? https://www.mussichhaben.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vegetapan-1-.jpg I didn't know that you can grind him into a powder
14:39 <rust_collector> do you think he is non-abradable?
15:03 <rust_collector> do like cats, just freeze them, and slice them on a band saw
15:19 <Ysjoelfir> that could be possible, maybe
15:39 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vegeta_(condiment)
15:49 <electrohead> hsn: I just watched that video earlier
15:53 <electrohead> that's neat, lol
16:09 <Ysjoelfir> I know, I just wanted to make the joke for everyone who knows dragonball :D
16:11 * electrohead waves at everyone
16:26 <Ysjoelfir> however, I have to go continue sorting my new spice jars. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yPdZPQiLMQBqHdYGmRv7PmKfl6WZyV5d/view?usp=sharing
17:02 <rust_collector> i think you might have a problem that you need to talk to someone about
17:11 <Ysjoelfir> why?
17:30 <rust_collector> yes, denial... that is step one
17:50 <rust_collector> don't worry, you will get thru it in the end
17:55 <Ysjoelfir> lol
18:53 <rust_collector> arr, boss just called, and said I had to do blahblah and thingthing when I start today.... but I just got home?
19:07 <Ysjoelfir> maybe he is planning ahead
19:35 <rust_collector> he probably is, as he is leaving on the 2st of may
19:42 <rust_collector> 1st, I think it was
20:44 <rust_collector> well, be quiet for a bit, while I watch steves laundry heap
26:45 <steve30> is the laundry entertaining
26:47 <steve30> ?
27:14 <rust_collector> maybe I should grab that picture, and use it as a wallpaper, and start making videos with it in the background...
27:41 <steve30> hehe
34:36 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir do you think we should send loads of chocolate to mr steve, and keep an eye on his videos, his he changes shape over time?
45:36 <rust_collector> ok, the kraut does not think you should have free chocolate...
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47:32 <steve30> :(
47:37 * steve30 <3 chocolate
48:12 <rust_collector> I will talk to mrs merkel, and have her ban tea inside the reich
51:10 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://astronomy.com/news/2021/04/first-look-at-the-2024-total-solar-eclipse
51:53 <Ampera> gonna pass me by
52:31 <Ampera> I'll probably see a little bit of it, but it's hundreds of miles off from where I live
00:36 * steve30 could do with an alcoholic beveredge
01:30 * electrohead throws beer at steve30
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03:17 <therealazzurro> hayoooo
03:24 * T3sl4 hugs therealazzurro
03:43 * rust_collector pretends nothing happened
03:54 * therealazzurro gives T3sl4 a cookie
04:01 * rust_collector pretends nothing happened
04:02 <T3sl4> \o/
04:14 * T3sl4 pretends giving rust_collector a cookie
04:24 <rust_collector> uuh
04:37 * therealazzurro gives T3sl4 another cookie because he gave his away to rust_collector
04:51 <T3sl4> \o/ two cookies
04:53 <rust_collector> nah, he did just pretend
05:01 <rust_collector> so now he has 3 cookies
05:24 * therealazzurro pretends he didn't see T3sl4 only pretending the cookie giveaway
05:51 <therealazzurro> 3 cookies?
06:24 <therealazzurro> https://www.reginamag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/GASLIGHT-IMAGE.png
07:04 <T3sl4> that's right, five cookies
08:10 <therealazzurro> oh boy.. i wanted to install manjaro just now on my main workstation, onto a second SSD but now i read stuff about it which made me doubt that intention
08:37 <rust_collector> good,
08:43 <therealazzurro> i already played around with it many times and i quite liked it...
08:52 <rust_collector> stay with crux
09:29 <rust_collector> so, what is so wrong about it?
09:31 <therealazzurro> fedora seems to be a good alternative but i like KDE more than gnome and idk whether the kde fedora build would be a smart choice
10:16 <therealazzurro> never heard of crux
10:24 <therealazzurro> this is what i read about manjaro: https://www.hadet.dev/Manjaro-Bad/
10:48 <therealazzurro> and many people mentioned that manjaro does some stuff the wrong way
10:58 <rust_collector> eeh. if you want kde, then use kde? fedora is the only non debian thing I have used for more than a few weeks, without being annoyed
11:23 <rust_collector> well, people have their opinions. if it suits you, then why should you care?
11:31 <therealazzurro> wouldn't fedora with kde be kind of an alien? their main desktop seems to be gnome
11:38 <rust_collector> it is
12:23 <therealazzurro> i don't want to use an alien system, it is always better to swim with the stream
12:41 <therealazzurro> not choosing ubuntu for obvious reasons
13:10 <rust_collector> you are too hipster to allow regular hipster things like ubuntu
13:32 <therealazzurro> well i care because the things mentioned in https://www.hadet.dev/Manjaro-Bad/ matter to me
13:44 <therealazzurro> lol no i'm sick of windows and microsoft and non-oss software
13:45 <rust_collector> ok, how about slackware?
14:12 <therealazzurro> and i never liked ubuntu, from day 1
14:38 <therealazzurro> wow that would be ancient
14:44 <rust_collector> I thought it was ok, until.. uuh, 9.something
14:55 <rust_collector> what would be ancient?
15:02 <therealazzurro> slackware
15:11 <therealazzurro> it has come a long way
15:30 <therealazzurro> i remember using mandrake linux decades ago
15:38 * steve30 likes slackware
16:31 <therealazzurro> i'd like something stable, widespread and not filled with utter BS
16:41 <therealazzurro> and compatible and modern lol
16:54 <therealazzurro> that's what starts to make things difficult i guess
16:59 <rust_collector> well, stop playing with computers then
17:27 <rust_collector> always out of date, and full of crap
17:27 <therealazzurro> modern in terms of supporting modern stuff and hardware. so debian won't really work lol
17:32 <therealazzurro> haha
18:51 <rust_collector> well, if you really want stuff like that, probably arch or fedora.
19:11 <therealazzurro> would fedora with kde be something I'd constantly run into all kinds of issues with because gnome is their main desktop or could it work just fine? i absolutely can't make an estimate about that, way too little experience with linux...
20:05 <rust_collector> I dunno? I have never tried kde on fedora. but if it comes without gnome.... ..... .. ...
20:39 <therealazzurro> i guess i could try, then..
20:45 <rust_collector> just do it
21:04 <rust_collector> what kind of stuff do you have that just does not work in debian?
21:20 <therealazzurro> damn i really would have liked to run manjaro, it was really appealing but those issues they have.. ugh...
21:40 <therealazzurro> don't know, actually. the last time i tried debian, it didn't even do 1Gbps with my NIC
21:55 <therealazzurro> for servers I do like and use it, after the death of centos
22:18 <therealazzurro> the last time i tried debian on the desktop*
22:51 <rust_collector> I never have new confusers, so even debian stale is more than enough. and I don't know what kind of nic you have, but I guess there is always something
23:09 <therealazzurro> and that was due to ancient NIC drivers which came with debian.
23:23 <therealazzurro> that was 10 years ago, i think, so forget about it :)
24:03 <rust_collector> ok, go download your fedora, and be happy for 3 weeks. go go go
24:20 <therealazzurro> yes, there's always something but with stability in mind with debian, i guess i'll be running into these kinds of issues more often than with distros which are a bit more on the bleeding edge
25:01 <therealazzurro> :D maybe i try with manjaro one time until it fucks itself up xD xD
25:24 <rust_collector> ask Halcyon about that. I think he uses manjaro.
25:52 <therealazzurro> don't you like those people, who ask countless annoying questions and ask for advice and then still do right the opposite of what you recommended :D
26:04 <therealazzurro> i will, thx
26:12 <rust_collector> oh, so you are going to install gentoo
26:25 <therealazzurro> lol hell no
26:47 <rust_collector> ok, crux it is. get going
27:26 <therealazzurro> https://i.redd.it/14gf9gm6hj841.png
27:53 <therealazzurro> HA there's even manjaro there lol nice
28:22 <rust_collector> arch is not bad. I just do not like it....
28:24 <brayden> who would unironically use puppy linux?
28:53 <rust_collector> mx with kde is pretty nice on the laptop
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30:12 <rust_collector> I am slightly annoyed that kde changed into something usable again. i was pretty happy when they were in the 4.x stuff, which was imo crap
30:17 <therealazzurro> idk @puppy linux, don't think so
30:26 <brayden> only time I used puppy was when doing some stuff with an LSI card that was giving me the shits
30:35 <brayden> in the end I gave up and used DOS instead
30:39 <therealazzurro> read about mx.. thought it was only a hype
30:41 <brayden> could feel my beard actively turning grey at the time
30:50 <therealazzurro> and i don't like riding on hype trains
31:08 <therealazzurro> lol
31:19 <therealazzurro> yay me, i've got an LSI 9260-8i in my workstation
31:25 <therealazzurro> no puppy linux for me
31:29 <brayden> haha
31:36 <brayden> nah I was reflashing it
31:43 <brayden> so it was just sas2flash compatibility issues and whatnot
31:44 <rust_collector> well, yes, I do not know what they hype is about there, I have been using mx since 2014, maybe 13 and a bit
31:47 <brayden> the card itself would be fine
31:48 <therealazzurro> i see
32:13 <rust_collector> but just a couple of years ago, BOOM and it was everywhere
32:25 <therealazzurro> are there any numbers, which distro is larger? mx or manjaro?
32:27 <therealazzurro> hmm
32:33 <brayden> I reckon manjaro would be larger
32:48 <rust_collector> i have no idea. and really could not care less
33:27 <therealazzurro> i like to use the stuff which many people use, so i find answers and help on the interwebs
33:31 <brayden> distrowatch has mxlinux at #1 and manjaro #2. but that's based on page hits lol
33:49 <therealazzurro> so I'll go with manjaro for now and let's see where the journey goes
33:54 <rust_collector> yes, I do not think anyone knows how many actually use each
33:55 <brayden> oh manjaro is good
33:56 <brayden> KDE?
34:05 <brayden> I'm thinking of doing it agin
34:05 <therealazzurro> yes
34:06 <brayden> *again
34:09 <brayden> it was nice
34:23 <brayden> but then it was a kind of accumulation of annoyances that sent me back to windows
34:32 <therealazzurro> i like kde much more than gnome
34:33 <rust_collector> get used to it
34:34 <brayden> and now windows is pissing me off daily
34:50 <therealazzurro> main annoyance last time was the stuttering youtoube video playback @ 1440p
34:59 <Ampera> manjaro is for people who want all of the downsides of arch and none of the benefits
35:06 <brayden> geez
35:20 <therealazzurro> second annoyance was automounting samba shares which needed me to have passwords in plaintext saved in some config file
35:20 <brayden> for me, manjaro was nice as you get a really good out of the box experience
35:24 <brayden> lots of shit loaded on, pretty much works out the box
35:28 <brayden> then you have all the arch benefits like AUR
35:34 <Ampera> AUR is not a benefit of arch
35:41 <therealazzurro> haha here we go
35:43 <brayden> :/
35:51 <rust_collector> but whyyyy would you want tons of shit loaded...
35:57 <Ampera> ^
35:58 <therealazzurro> the way manjaro does it, actually is really not very good
36:07 <brayden> well somebody like me is just going to install steam anyway
36:12 <brayden> so the fact it comes with it is nbd
36:14 <therealazzurro> yay steam
36:30 <Ampera> Arch's main benefit is being simple and easy to use, and coming with nothing preinstalled
36:43 <Ampera> it's a great way to figure out exactly how Linux works as a fully modular operating system
37:00 <therealazzurro> can't you choose in manjaro what you want to have installed upfront?
37:01 <brayden> well good thing arch exists as a standalone thing
37:08 <Ampera> Manjaro defeats that by packaging a lot of stuff already, and if you just want an easy to maintain, well formed system, there's much better options than something arch based
37:08 <brayden> and all the morons like me can use manjaro lol
37:44 <rust_collector> well, that is fine, if you want to figure out how linux works, but some just want a running computer that does what they need. but I still do not think they shoudl come with everythign
37:57 <therealazzurro> regarding moron: my forum avatar is Boron and my signature says "Boron rhymes with Moron", so that's that...
38:06 <brayden> nice
38:25 <Ampera> There's just better options, like Ubuntu or Debian, which have far better support than Arch
38:30 <Ampera> (or Manjaro)
38:39 <therealazzurro> as an official complete moron I'm now going to install manjaro on the second SSD :D
38:44 <therealazzurro> ubuntu is just a plain no
38:48 <rust_collector> have fun
38:53 <brayden> haha
38:54 <brayden> good luck
38:56 <Ampera> Do what you want, this is just my opinion
39:02 <Ampera> the point of Linux in general is for you to do what you want
39:05 <therealazzurro> sure, granted
39:12 <therealazzurro> no offense taken
39:25 <therealazzurro> i'll stay connected with my phone
39:31 <therealmobileazzurro> here haha
39:37 Quit: therealazzurro ([email protected]) Connection closed
39:44 <rust_collector> depends on if you get kicked or not....
39:56 <rust_collector> la la la la la
40:03 <brayden> *30 minutes later*
40:06 <brayden> Where did my windows go
40:10 <therealmobileazzurro> haha
40:13 <therealmobileazzurro> better not
40:23 <therealmobileazzurro> i have a backup, though
40:44 <rust_collector> he said he had bleeding edge stuff, so it should not take anywhere near 30 minutes
41:15 <brayden> Accidentally wipe out your Windows install (Any%) Speedrun
41:31 <therealmobileazzurro> yeah the lsi controller alone takes 40 seconds every boot for init stuff
41:38 <brayden> you can't disable it's op rom?
41:41 <brayden> *its
42:26 <Ampera> /kick rust_collector being too norwegian
42:58 <therealmobileazzurro> maybe yes, should be possible
43:18 <therealmobileazzurro> free or proprietary driver for amd rx580?
43:25 <brayden> free
43:29 <therealmobileazzurro> thx
43:51 * rust_collector ignores being kicked. it will be ok
44:17 <brayden> /msg *status loadmod kickrejoin
47:07 <therealmobileazzurro> hmmm my windows disk is bitlocker encrypted and idk if it will survive if i wirte the bootloader to the mbr of it... maybe i'll create a fresh image of that disk beforehand :D
47:18 <rust_collector> I wonder if I can find a distro made for laptops with a shitty touchpad
47:27 <brayden> do you have the recovery key?
47:41 <brayden> do you use secure boot + TPM?
47:52 <brayden> wondering if it might blow up secure boot and force you to enter the recovery key
48:06 <therealmobileazzurro> sure but no idea what it is going to go to do with the disk. current backup is always better
48:13 <therealmobileazzurro> no tpm, no secure boot
48:29 <brayden> does windows auto unlock the volume?
48:34 <therealmobileazzurro> im entering a veeery long pw at every start
48:38 <brayden> wow
48:52 <therealmobileazzurro> the other volumes are auto unlocked
49:07 <therealmobileazzurro> boot volume is password protected
49:09 <brayden> I'd put the bootloader on the SSD you're installing manjaro on
49:24 <Ampera> ^
49:30 <therealmobileazzurro> yes i was thinking about that too
49:30 <Ampera> can always boot to the SSD and then chainload to windows
49:35 <brayden> yeah
49:42 <brayden> it should add an entry for windows anyway
49:45 <therealmobileazzurro> will have to change the bios boot options then
49:46 <Ampera> you sure you're using MBR?
49:47 <brayden> then just set the BIOS to boot to that SSD
49:54 <Ampera> you'd have to have a pretty old machine for Windows to install as MBR
50:04 <brayden> that or legacy only
50:20 <therealmobileazzurro> windows is uefi/gpt iirc but not sure how i configured the bios
50:33 <brayden> yeah then you'll have a 100 MB EFI partition
50:36 <Ampera> if it's EFI, installing GRUB is a lot easier, so long as your EFI partition is big enough
50:56 <Ampera> if your EFI partition isn't big enough, you can always just store your kernel on your actual root
51:12 <Ampera> so you can have /boot with your kernel and mount your efi as /efi and access the bootloader there
51:56 <brayden> oh man I'd just use the SSD you're installing this on lol
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52:25 <therealmobileazzurro> hmm ok i guess ill make dinner now and do whatever later xD fiancee getting nervous (aka hungry)
52:52 <Ampera> EFI actually makes having multiple bootloaders on the same drive way nicer
53:14 <therealmobileazzurro> just realized that i booted the installer in bios mode and not in efi and windows is gpt/efi so will have to reboot anyways
53:34 <therealmobileazzurro> cya laters alligators
53:40 <Ampera> ciao
54:07 <Ampera> that's why EFI shells are so nice to have, since you can install an EFI system via BIOS and then just set the variables later
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38:18 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, I agree with your idea of sending chocolate to mr. steve30
38:56 <steve30> \o/
38:59 <rust_collector> let us see if he will explode live on youtube
40:41 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a great plan!
42:29 <rust_collector> well, I am not sure about that, but it is a plan, and I can not think of anything better right now
45:31 <Ysjoelfir> then: sounds like a plan of unspecified quality!
50:17 <brayden> I've got some christmas and easter chocolate I literally cannot eat
50:35 <brayden> diet
51:10 <rust_collector> sounds like the wrong diet
54:55 <rust_collector> oh well, I feel like I am on the wrong diet too
54:59 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/dLGhccr
59:36 <MrMobodies> Hello
59:37 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
59:42 <rust_collector> HELLO!
59:43 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
59:56 <brayden> Hello!
59:57 <EEVBlog> Hello there, brayden!
59:57 <MrMobodies> I just discovered they are not rats up there
00:17 <rust_collector> they are afghans?
00:18 <MrMobodies> I drilled some holes it was getting late
00:26 <MrMobodies> and as soon as I turned the lights of
00:39 <MrMobodies> I hear birds going mad "wah waaah wahh awaaha" flying about
01:02 <MrMobodies> I think they are starlings
01:31 <MrMobodies> I had this problem on my side of the house last year but covid came and they left
01:57 <rust_collector> weeeel, birds do not mean there are no rats...
02:02 <MrMobodies> I am bit worried about mites so I won't be doing anything unilt they leave it is fumigated
02:11 <MrMobodies> and netted off
02:37 <MrMobodies> I am in the countryside and do the builders who built this house?
02:53 <MrMobodies> they leave a large gap inbetween the roof tiles and the floor any rodent to get throughh
03:39 <MrMobodies> I see daylight up there through this dip in at end of the beams
03:53 <MrMobodies> and I think that is where the gutters are
04:11 <MrMobodies> I would have thought they'd applied netting bet I find none
04:33 <MrMobodies> I mean from the inside
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05:31 <MrMobodies> It does have plastic netting outside ontop of the guttering but the moss have grown underneath and is pushing it out which is not a good place to put it.
06:03 <MrMobodies> never had problems like this before
06:27 <MrMobodies> I believe they are protect species the starlings
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20:09 <rust_collector> I think I have to see if someone has left a little table fan somewhere. i need a little fan
23:26 <MrMobodies> I got some fans
23:43 <MrMobodies> 1970's explair that I got 20 years ago
23:51 <MrMobodies> and they still work
24:14 <rust_collector> it is a bit annoying, we threw out loads of them at work before christmas, but I did not need a fan then
24:17 <MrMobodies> they sell them down the bootsales for like £1 or £2 along with the other unbranded rubbish ones
24:44 <MrMobodies> what about a fast pc case fan
24:48 <MrMobodies> high static pressure one
25:20 <MrMobodies> could build a base for them with some metal
25:31 <rust_collector> meh, I need a somewhat large slow fan, it is just for a bit of flow, across a large-ish transformer
25:41 <MrMobodies> why did the fans get thrown out
25:45 <MrMobodies> were they no good?
26:25 <rust_collector> well, a mix of taking up space, and getting squished by forklifts, I guess
26:25 <MrMobodies> I got a few large metal power fan that was given to me, used to dry plaster
26:42 <MrMobodies> aah space issues
27:16 <MrMobodies> the problems with the large metal ones, they get dust in them and I have to take them apart and dust them out every year
27:35 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbAEkfXSDE
27:40 <MrMobodies> and gets in the hub area under the blades slows it down
29:24 <rust_collector> this fan is around 20 years old, and has been living under a cover outside. lots of crap and grinding dust and stuff. it is amazing that it has lasted this long. it is the bearings, or really bushings that are gone
29:50 <MrMobodies> I have a datavac
30:02 <rust_collector> hehe, ok
30:10 <MrMobodies> one of them struggled to spin up so I kept it
30:19 <MrMobodies> got it out 2 years ago when I got dust out
30:26 <MrMobodies> and it spun up like normal
30:50 <MrMobodies> But I did use a sonic brush to scour it and some long brushed to break down the dust inside
31:06 <MrMobodies> very handy the datavac
31:12 <MrMobodies> use it to dry my glasses
31:25 <MrMobodies> or wet things
31:35 <MrMobodies> blow cobwebs up
31:44 <rust_collector> I just use a normal 6.5hp compressor. they are ok if you crank the pressure up a bit
32:24 <MrMobodies> isn't for tires
32:28 <MrMobodies> and balloons
32:38 <MrMobodies> that's an idea though for blowing out dust
32:53 <rust_collector> it is for anything you need pressurised air for
35:14 <MrMobodies> aah power toos
35:18 <MrMobodies> like what they use in garages
35:37 <rust_collector> yep
35:42 <MrMobodies> I know had these drills and not turning things
35:51 <MrMobodies> connected by rubber hoses
36:19 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, did you see the new boris video?
36:31 <rust_collector> probably
38:18 <Ysjoelfir> new stuff for the weslav store
38:28 <rust_collector> yep
38:50 <Ysjoelfir> I kinda like the moon size mousepad
38:52 <Ysjoelfir> and the sausage
39:03 <rust_collector> I wonder if he can make a slightly more soviet version of the keyboard, with no rgb shit
39:39 <Ysjoelfir> I would agree. (this is one reason why I love THIS one I just use - plain keyboard, good quality, works.)
40:09 <Ysjoelfir> I think a keyboard with a bajonet attachment and shot glass holder would be usefull *drinks a raki*
41:05 <rust_collector> hmm, a vodka cup holder would be neat
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43:18 <Guest|81312> anyone here?
43:29 <Ysjoelfir> nope
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43:39 <Ysjoelfir> just ~70 people
43:41 <Ysjoelfir> ok, byw
43:50 <Ysjoelfir> *bye
43:54 <rust_collector> very ninja nope
44:46 <Ysjoelfir> OS: 64 bit Windows 10 Professional (Version 10.0 1909 Build 18363.1440), CPU: 16 x AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor @ 3693 MHz 4096 KB Cache, MEM: 32693 MB, 59% (19234 MB) free, DISKS: total 9.50 TB - 5.67 TB free, GFX: Radeon RX Vega 8192 MB, SCREEN: Generic PnP Monitor, 2048 x 1152 @ 32 bit, 60 Hz, AUDIO: USB-Audiogerät, UPTIME: 10 d, 12 h, 17 m
44:49 <MrMobodies> joke: the glass is not full enough
44:50 <Ysjoelfir> whoops
45:05 <MrMobodies> where half a glass is no water
45:11 <Ysjoelfir> interesting feature.
45:28 <MrMobodies> nice
45:37 <MrMobodies> 16 Ryzen CPUS?
45:40 <Ampera> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor (2.20GHz) • Memory: 61.3 GiB Total (57.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.2 TB / 1.9 TB (642.7 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 Ti] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge • Uptime: 2h 4m 12s
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> this was not intentional, but... no, just 8 cores and 8 virtual ones
46:12 * Ampera has twice the cores
46:16 <MrMobodies> interesting "Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge"
46:16 <Ampera> and memory
46:16 * steve30 hisses at the Windows 10
46:27 <Ampera> ^
46:31 <Ysjoelfir> lol
46:52 <MrMobodies> That old HP server has only 12 cores (
46:59 <steve30> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Slackware 14.2 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (13.9 GiB Free) Swap: 0 bytes Total (0 bytes Free) • Storage: 2.3 TB / 5.2 TB (3.0 TB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X] @ 8086:3ec2 • Uptime: 1d 5h 35m 18s
47:00 <MrMobodies> 12 physical I mean 2 x6
47:02 <Ysjoelfir> I love my "Generic PnP Monitor", which is actually 3 monitors and one TV
47:04 <Ampera> ooo slack
47:20 <rust_collector> and here I am, slightly annoyed about booting with systemd as init this time...
48:11 <MrMobodies> I am thinking of buy ram I want get the full 196gb it has 48 gb in there at the moment
48:46 <steve30> These machines seem to have a lot of memory compared to the ThinkPad that's sat next to me, which only has 256MB
49:17 <rust_collector> I am thinking about getting some same kind of ram to put in this thing. I think it has 3 different kinds now
49:19 <Ampera> my PC doesn't have much memory, it's alright for what I use
49:23 <Ampera> my laptop has even less at 20GB
49:26 <Jens> I'm still using an i7 4770. 2013 vintage :/
49:42 <Ampera> I used to have a 4790k for ages
49:49 <Ampera> was right in the sweet spot of good and cheap
49:49 <MrMobodies> well right now I am using my Thinpad W700
49:52 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder....
49:55 <MrMobodies> with only 8GB
49:57 <steve30> Jens, It wasn't that long since I upgraded from a Core2Quad
50:15 <MrMobodies> I got to replace the leys they were wearing out
50:16 <Jens> I had my C2D for ages as well.
50:25 <rust_collector> I like c2d
50:31 <Ampera> before my i7 I had an AMD A10, then an A4
50:36 <MrMobodies> but not bad for something frpm 2008 or so and still works
50:37 <Ampera> and then a celeron
50:52 <Jens> Honestly, I don't feel limited by my CPU. Also, I'm broke so...
50:57 <MrMobodies> I forgot about Celerons
51:14 <MrMobodies> the last time I heard that name it had no cache in there
51:16 <steve30> Do they still make celerons?
51:21 <Ampera> steve30, they do
51:24 <Ampera> they're quite popular in low end SBC's
51:44 <Ampera> Intel has a lot of model names that all kinda mean similar things
51:52 <Ampera> pentium, celeron, i3, i5, i7
52:05 <Ampera> you can get i7's that are slower than i3's, and celerons that are about as good as i5's
52:34 <Ampera> take my work laptop for instance, which is a 2018-ish thing, with a /dual core/ i7
52:35 <MrMobodies> I see so they just give it a name not resembling the Celerons in the past
52:42 <Jens> My home server box is a joke of a machine though --> https://www.jensrex.dk/img/server.png
52:59 <Ysjoelfir> wait a sec
53:02 <Ampera> Jens, they make wheelchairs faster than that
53:28 <Ampera> my server is an X5650 with 18GB of RAM running FreeBSD
53:36 <Jens> Yes. Though it runs Gentoo so that makes it like 3 times as fast :D
53:40 <Ampera> there's a really good deal on a quad 12 core xeon machine, ivy bridge
53:50 <Ampera> but the stupid seller won't get back to me and give me more pictures :/
54:03 <Ampera> gentoo for og linux ricers
55:01 <Jens> Using Gentoo since 2004 or so. That or Debian, depending on what I'm doing. Anything else is for failures.
55:23 <Ampera> I use arch for most desktop machines, and FreeBSD for everything else
56:10 <Ampera> arch was my first ever linux distro and was great for learning. I've been tempted to move to Debian, as I'm wondering if it has better tools available
56:21 <Jens> FreesBSD seems interesting.
56:24 <MrMobodies> is your server with the X5650 a single or are there two?
56:30 <Ampera> MrMobodies, single
56:33 <Ampera> it's a workstation board
56:43 <Ampera> Jens, it's probably my favorite operating system
56:45 <MrMobodies> I see with one socket
57:26 <Ampera> the BSD ports tree distribution scheme is awesome, with a lot of great things you just don't get in any Linux distros
57:58 <MrMobodies> I forgot about Arch but I remembered it was bundled with Zoneminder and it seemed really stable
58:17 <Ampera> Arch has impressed me with how stable it can be
58:25 <Ampera> I've never had a major problem in the few years or so I've been running it
58:35 <Jens> Pure laziness on my part. You reach for what you're familiar with.
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58:42 <Ysjoelfir> so
58:46 <Ampera> My main gripe is very minor quality of life improvements
58:49 <Ysjoelfir> regarding slow systems....
58:51 <MrMobodies> I'll check it out again
59:09 <YsAtServer> oh wow, there is roughly a 3 second lag....
59:14 <YsAtServer> OS: 64 bit Windows 10 Professional (Version 10.0 2004 Build 19041.867), CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 847 @ 1.10GHz @ 1098 MHz 512 KB Cache, MEM: 4009 MB, 21% (840 MB) free, DISKS: total 9,49 TB - 6,09 TB free, GFX: Microsoft Remote Display Adapter 0 MB, SCREEN: Generic Non-PnP Monitor, 2560 x 1440 @ 32 bit, 32 Hz, AUDIO: None, UPTIME: 20 d, 18 h, 56 m
59:39 Quit: YsAtServer ([email protected]) Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)
59:40 * Ampera hisses at Windows 10
00:02 * steve30 joins Ampera in the Windows 10 hissing
00:04 <Ysjoelfir> don't you think that is the perfect OS for a server?
00:06 <MrMobodies> hisses? snake hissing?
00:16 <MrMobodies> or does it mean hatred?
00:16 <Jens> My desktop is Win10 because games.
00:25 <Ysjoelfir> ^
00:32 <Ampera> There is I think only one game in my entire steam library that won't run on linux
00:39 <steve30> Hissing as in something a kitty would do when it doesn't like something
00:45 <MrMobodies> I'd get the enterprise edition without the apps store and modify it to behave
00:46 <Ampera> and that one game is mostly because there's something wrong with my setup specifically
01:07 <Jens> I've been sinking FAR too many hours into Satisfactory lately.
01:16 <Ampera> I played it for a while
01:34 <Ampera> either I'm stupid or the pacing was just fucked
01:42 <Ampera> as there was a bunch of shit that needed a lot of unobtanium to make
01:51 <Ampera> and no matter how far I explored, nothing ever spawned anywhere
02:17 <Jens> Lots of things are locked behind oil.
02:37 <Ampera> it was basically anything that wasn't iron or copper
02:40 <Ampera> or stone
03:33 <Ampera> apparently I have 151 games in my steam library
03:34 <Ampera> not much
03:39 <Jens> You definitely need to set up satellite factories for some things, or belt/pipe it a long distance.
03:41 <Ampera> but pretty much all of it runs on Linux
04:03 <Ampera> I've always just preferred modded minecraft for logisticy type gaming
04:11 <Ampera> I didn't get on with factorio very well
04:16 <Ampera> idk I think I'm just not wired right for those games
04:21 <Ysjoelfir> I love factorio
04:30 <Ampera> I like them, but I end up getting into hour long loops of just running around doing literally nothing
04:31 <Ysjoelfir> I think I have roughly 500 hours of play time...
04:43 <Ampera> I have 168hrs in factorio
04:56 <Ampera> 21.4 in satisfactory
05:06 <Ysjoelfir> 0
05:09 <Jens> 173 in Satisfactory.
05:21 <Ampera> I probably have a few thousand in Minecraft
05:26 <Ampera> but there's no way to tell that
05:51 <Ampera> I've played Minecraft on and off since start of year 2012
05:55 <Jens> I've played it some, but it never really captured me.
06:06 <Ampera> it's kinda like garry's mod
06:10 <Ampera> not that special on its own
06:21 <Ampera> but if you get the right mods, it really goes somewhere
06:46 <Ampera> I love TTT in garry's mod
06:50 <Ampera> it's been so long since I've played it
06:59 <rust_collector> i think I have around 4 minutes in kid #2s minecraft. I found out that when she goes to the kitchen, I can go kill all the people standing around there, and go back to my thing, before she is back
07:08 <Jens> I don't actually have it any more. Deleted my Minecraft account after it started requiring a Microsoft account.
07:17 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty
07:24 <MrMobodies> there is only one game I like and that is Unrealtournament 1 (1999)
07:31 <MrMobodies> and still play to this day
07:38 <Ampera> honestly I tried UT99, and wasn't a big fan
07:43 <Ampera> it was way too slow for my taste
07:48 <Ampera> I have it installed on my linux desktop somewhere
07:50 <MrMobodies> I have it in turbo
08:01 <MrMobodies> I just go out and snipe the bots
08:15 <Ampera> Xonotic is really nice
08:27 <MrMobodies> Morpheus in turbo mode and you float in the air and snipe
08:30 <Ampera> I played that with a friend from AfterNET and we had a lot of fun with it
09:05 <MrMobodies> oooh thats looks nice
09:07 <MrMobodies> Xonotic
09:07 <Ampera> My favorite online FPS for something where speed and accuracy is rewarded is Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
09:25 <Ampera> Yeah if anyone here wants to play Xonotic at some point, I or my friend (maybe) can host a server and people can join and play
09:32 <Ampera> it's foss
09:38 <Ampera> really really good fun
10:05 <MrMobodies> it reminds of the gaming engine out of Red Faction
10:41 <MrMobodies> Bink video lets see
10:42 <Ampera> iirc it's a heavily modded quake engine
10:52 <Ampera> called DarkPlaces
10:53 <MrMobodies> oh darkplaces engine
11:11 <MrMobodies> aah an another ID modified gaming engine
11:24 <Ampera> It has a pleasing look
11:37 <MrMobodies> I;ll give that a go soon
11:59 <MrMobodies> and yes I found it pleasing just looking at the details
12:03 <Ampera> one thing I really love about it is it sort of has an assisted bhop thing
12:07 <Ampera> where if you hold space you bhop
12:18 <Ampera> sort of like HL2 old engine bhop with autofire on space
12:38 <Ampera> it makes it so that bhop is really easy to pull off so everyone can do it
12:43 <MrMobodies> hopping or jumping
12:48 <Ampera> bunny hopping
13:03 <Ampera> as in, hold space, move forward, and your speed increases with almost no bound
14:58 <MrMobodies> aah in UT99 kind of a staff
15:19 <MrMobodies> in Half life it does that do with the control alt I can't remember but I think I remember it
15:37 <MrMobodies> I didn't know it was referred to as the word bhop
16:14 <MrMobodies> I think press the arrow twice and then it bhops
16:21 <MrMobodies> in UT99
16:42 <MrMobodies> Half life lt ctl jump.. long time ago
17:00 <MrMobodies> oops said a few words wrong sorry
18:40 <MrMobodies> yes the same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shR1g5w8igw
19:25 <MrMobodies> okay I am going to get Xonotic installed thanks for mentioning it
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30:23 <MrMobodies> Yep, I like it, just need to adjust the mousewheel to stop it zooming
30:29 <MrMobodies> I want that to be weapon select
31:09 <MrMobodies> oh it is set like that
31:43 <MrMobodies> I meant the jump
35:04 <MrMobodies> Can't get it to bhop
39:04 <MrMobodies> the graphics and combinations of colours look really nice in Xonotic
45:13 <MrMobodies> another interesting thing, a win is called a frag
51:04 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo, new recipe! :D https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/recipe-cabbage-stuff-looks-ugly-is-cheap-fast-and-tastes-great/new/#new
06:36 <therealmobileazzurro> minecraft (ftb tech modpacks fanboy), satisfactory, openTTD, GTA (every part except gta 2) and elderscrolls 4/5 and fallout since fallout 3 here.
06:50 <therealmobileazzurro> those are my top time consumers
07:20 <therealmobileazzurro> i always end up building tech stuff like nuclear power plants in MC
08:34 <therealmobileazzurro> forgot ark: survival evolved
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23:26 <MrMobodies> aaah eevblog has a cooking section never noticed that before
26:40 <rust_collector> heh, that is the reason why it is such a popular forum. Most people are there for the cooking things
28:43 <rust_collector> it is funny, because when you look at dave, he does not really look like your typical chef
34:44 <rust_collector> just my opinion, maybe chefs where you are look like that
35:38 <MrMobodies> also what one thing I find special about it what Gnif said earlier "<gnif> The eevblog server is a mix of legacy and new software, which means we have to do things that today wouldn't even be considered". I suppose it is "engineered to work".
36:33 <MrMobodies> he seems cater for many things
36:54 <MrMobodies> to a point where I feel welcome
37:02 <MrMobodies> and now chefs too
42:01 <T3sl4> "engineered" seems a bit strong of a word
42:18 <T3sl4> "evolved" perhaps more apt?
42:52 <T3sl4> most systems evolve over time, with some components being upgraded and replaced, others stagnating, and the whole rarely being reviewed and rebuilt holistically
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46:14 <rust_collector> but if you can cook, you can feed your family, as long as you have food
48:19 <Ampera> can't feed your family if you don't have a family to feed
49:15 <rust_collector> that can also happen, as a result of not being able to cook. there are so many options
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50:21 <MrMobodies> T3s14, I mean't how getting the old stuff to work with the new which he wouldn't be considered noawadys, maybe I chose the wrong word.
52:25 <MrMobodies> oops *he said wouldn't be considered today
53:30 <MrMobodies> but I like the way it is I find it very pleasant to look at
53:46 <MrMobodies> a few little niggles but hardly any visual annoyance
54:40 <MrMobodies> in Xonotic I am trying to get parts of the dashboard smaller
56:39 <T3sl4> i'm guessing the old stuff is mostly behind the scenes, and/or the new stuff can be made to look the same very easily
57:59 <MrMobodies> I appreciate the work that goes into it
00:50 <MrMobodies> I don't find many like that anymore or maybe I haven't seem much
01:09 <MrMobodies> Xonotic: https://i.imgur.com/y6JGViN.jpg
01:19 <MrMobodies> can't find how to make (squared in red) smaller
01:26 <MrMobodies> they seem a bit big
02:35 <MrMobodies> everything else I got sized down but I can't find any setting for those
04:33 <T3sl4> hud settings?
04:34 <MrMobodies> aah found it "Edit Hud"
04:37 <MrMobodies> excellent
04:38 <T3sl4> sometimes that's scalable, sometimes not
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07:15 <MrMobodies> the game? well it's an editor and I got it to the size I want and they can be moved.
08:04 <MrMobodies> JUst like UT99, during jumping with lowish gravity I can sniper the heads at the same time.
08:48 <MrMobodies> lots of interesting weapons and colours
11:03 <MrMobodies> Well thank you very much Ampera, I am enjoying this, it's been a while since I came across a game I am familiar with.
13:36 <T3sl4> hm, id tech 2 based? significantly improved i suppose
14:17 <MrMobodies> the freedom of movement in the game is just like UT99 and that's what attracts me
14:32 <MrMobodies> like on a low gavity map in turbo mode
14:48 <MrMobodies> I call that improved.
15:39 <T3sl4> if that's its heritage, it shouldn't be; UT99 didn't have circle strafing and speed tech like that
16:09 <T3sl4> the main intended mechanics should be very 90s/2000s shooter tho
17:03 <MrMobodies> I am finding that or maybe it is just my percetion
17:30 <MrMobodies> I found the movement restrictive with the later stuff and I lost interest
17:47 <MrMobodies> but this really good and appealing to me
18:55 <MrMobodies> I am not sure about the strafing and stuff but I find behaves in the way I want
19:58 <MrMobodies> I could circle and turn around really quick in there if that whats circular strafing means
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24:28 <T3sl4> circle strafing and strafe jumping are tech that comes from the way quake calculates movement, other engines don't have it
24:41 <T3sl4> i'm not aware of any speed tech in UT
25:12 <T3sl4> if you've never played very seriously you might not be aware of it, other than to see other players moving around or making jumps that seem just out of reach
25:38 <Ampera> Just got an appointment for my 5G injection
25:59 * T3sl4 pats Ampera on the head tinfoil-ly
29:08 <MrMobodies> I didn't play quake stuff often so yes I don't think I am aware of it. I am thinking something different that I like with the moving around in the game
30:17 <MrMobodies> it took me years to discover how to do that extending jump thing bhop?
31:16 <Halcyon> Morning
31:24 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
31:42 <MrMobodies> aah: https://xonotic.org/posts/2012/halogenes-newbie-corner-part-1-bunny-hopping/
31:43 <Halcyon> :)
31:53 <MrMobodies> "n Xonotic you have a lot of movement control while you are in the air, and to a great extent you’ll accelerate when pressing the forward button while flying. "
32:12 <MrMobodies> that is what i am talking about in relation to UT99 in the Morpheus map in turbo mode
32:46 <MrMobodies> oh morning
34:09 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, your cabbage thing looks good
34:26 <MrMobodies> "If you press the forward button while holding the jump button, you’ll continuously get faster until you hit the acceleration limit." It looks like I am doing that already and noticing it is a bit faster.
34:40 <MrMobodies> cabbage?
35:02 <T3sl4> yeah, bhop is a quake thing, pretty sure anyway UTs don't have it
35:03 <MrMobodies> oh in the thread https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/recipe-cabbage-stuff-looks-ugly-is-cheap-fast-and-tastes-great/new/#new
35:18 <MrMobodies> I thought it mean't a jump mode
35:24 <Ysjoelfir> I hoped you would like it, Halcyon :P
35:51 <Ysjoelfir> I actually added some of your tortoise powder over it, which worked out very nice
35:53 <T3sl4> alas i'm out of cabbage, although i have a bit of broccoli which might count as close enough :P
36:01 <Halcyon> Oh yeh that would work really well
36:14 <rust_collector> tortoise powder?
36:43 <Ysjoelfir> yes. ground pretty coarse. tastes a bit like seaweed
36:50 <Ysjoelfir> spice as well
36:58 <Ysjoelfir> *spicz
37:01 <Ysjoelfir> damnit
37:05 <T3sl4> racist
37:05 <Ysjoelfir> spicy*
37:41 <rust_collector> hmmm
37:45 <Ysjoelfir> you would have to ask Halcyon what that stuff is he made me buy :D
37:58 <Halcyon> It's a Japanese red pepper blend
38:12 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shichimi
38:22 <rust_collector> uh, that makes sense... I guess....
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38:55 <Halcyon> It's really delicious with rice dishes
39:02 <electrohead> I'd eat the hell out of that
39:03 <Halcyon> And cabbage seemingly
39:04 <rust_collector> that does look interesting
39:05 <electrohead> lol
39:13 * electrohead invites himself over
39:15 * therealazzurro is currently installing manjaro on his main workstation
39:20 <Halcyon> \o/
39:21 <rust_collector> haha
39:23 <Halcyon> I love Manjaro
39:33 <MrMobodies> I think I found what it is, in UT99, "double jumping"
39:35 <electrohead> <o/
39:37 <rust_collector> but they do everything wrong, and...
39:45 <Ysjoelfir> Maybe I should put manjaro on my new nas. otoh.... meh
39:52 <therealazzurro> eat this, windows - using IRC while installing the actual OS lol
39:54 <Ysjoelfir> I will probably NEVER build that thing xD
40:04 <T3sl4> double jump is an extra feature i think
40:24 <MrMobodies> some player I invited showed me how to do it
40:34 <therealazzurro> ok the manjaro now wants me to reboot into the finished system
40:40 Quit: therealazzurro ([email protected]) Connection closed
40:43 <T3sl4> UT i think had a dodge feature, usually you double tap movement to do it
40:47 <MrMobodies> I press th arrow twice then jump I think
40:48 <Ysjoelfir> but: I'm pff tp ned/ gm- a;;
40:49 <T3sl4> stuff like that is extra
41:03 <Ysjoelfir> argh...
41:15 * Ysjoelfir shifts the right hand to the left a bit.... tries again...
41:20 <T3sl4> you can program whatever into the game code of course, but bhop is part of the base quake engine
41:26 <Ysjoelfir> I'm off to bed. gn9 all
41:31 * T3sl4 nudges Ysjoelfir's blanket
41:32 <Halcyon> Night Ysjoelfir
41:35 <Ysjoelfir> meh. close enough
41:38 <MrMobodies> yes, sorry about I confused the two
41:41 <electrohead> I need to start posting more in the forums
41:54 <Halcyon> Yeh, stop being a snob electrohead
41:55 <Halcyon> :P
42:02 <electrohead> shh
42:04 <electrohead> :P
42:17 <electrohead> I did post a picture of my cat, posing for the camera
42:23 <electrohead> heh
42:23 <T3sl4> mew
42:23 <MrMobodies> when you post something here, you may get a response in miliseconds
43:10 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
43:12 <MrMobodies> there a stray cat that lives around here
43:15 <T3sl4> stupid Halcyon
43:19 <Halcyon> :P
43:20 <MrMobodies> it escaped from it's owner
43:34 <MrMobodies> the neighbours have seen it and brought it back and it ran away again
43:41 <MrMobodies> doesn't seem to like it's owner
43:55 <MrMobodies> it is a white, with bits of brown on the fur
43:57 <electrohead> lol
44:09 <MrMobodies> it came in my house twice
44:19 <MrMobodies> and as soon as I looked it ran outside and made some noises
44:26 <MrMobodies> it would watch everything I was doing
44:36 <Halcyon> It likes to watch
44:44 <MrMobodies> until I turned and noticed it was there
45:17 <MrMobodies> I was going to enterain it with some tuna and make it my cat
45:19 <T3sl4> smart kitty
45:41 <MrMobodies> but it seems it doesn't like being stared at
45:46 <T3sl4> shy of the unknown, you'll have to establish trust
46:22 <MrMobodies> maybe next time I go for salmon
46:30 <MrMobodies> and not stare at it
46:52 <T3sl4> just leave out some food and let it get accustomed to your area, then introduce yourself gradually
47:08 <T3sl4> pretty soon it'll be meowing at you for more food, or shelter or pets
47:27 <MrMobodies> if I an gain it's trust then that would be nice as it is independent too
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49:02 <therealazzurro> here we go, manjaro on the second ssd up and running (EFI) and even encrypted. and windows is still there and starting :P
50:54 <Halcyon> Gah, idiot sellers on ebay
51:17 <Halcyon> I sent through 5 questions about an item, each numbered 1 through to 5. I get the answer to the last question only.
51:37 <Halcyon> Then I ask "And the answers to the other questions?" I get the answer for #4 only.
51:43 <Halcyon> Are people fucking retarded?
51:50 <T3sl4> yes.
51:55 <therealazzurro> lol simple answer: yes
52:19 <Halcyon> They weren't particularly difficult. For example: "Does the rack include any keys?"
52:45 <therealazzurro> life is much easier if you count on the fact that probably more than 90% of all people are more or less retarded
52:56 <therealazzurro> alicia keys?
53:15 <Halcyon> I don't know therealazzurro, he didn't answer the fucking question!
54:06 <therealazzurro> maybe he doesn't want to fuck right now
54:33 <therealazzurro> rtfm! why would i want to read the fucking manual? i know how to fuck!
57:38 <Ampera> Halcyon, stop ignoring me you dickhead
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57:54 <Halcyon> Hm
57:59 <T3sl4> start ignoring me Ampera you bellend
58:07 <Halcyon> :P
58:15 <Halcyon> I'm looking at server racks
58:19 <Halcyon> I need a bigger one
58:24 <T3sl4> typical man, staring at racks
58:43 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/IBM-7014T42-42U-Server-Rack-Communications-Cabinet-2x-PDUs-600mm-x-1098mm/274546184099
58:46 <Halcyon> This one looks pretty
03:06 <Halcyon> Aww cute birb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaDgkc7ARfE
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04:31 <T3sl4> monkeybirb
06:47 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6t9s-y75yw
06:49 <Halcyon> That one has a hat
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19:23 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/tucNZkBuc-o?t=55
19:30 <Halcyon> Who drinks from an open glass in a car?
20:52 <T3sl4> citing earlier conversation -- retards
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35:08 <MrMobodies> talking of ebay sellers
35:27 <MrMobodies> when I order memory or pci cards these days I have to specify the anti static bag
35:41 <MrMobodies> the chances are it turns up in a plastic bag
36:09 <MrMobodies> I had that happen a couple times and on 2 occasion they were dead
36:27 <electrohead> yeah I've experienced the same thing
36:30 <electrohead> :/
36:33 <electrohead> and, awe, cute birds
36:34 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA
36:37 <electrohead> they are so friendly
37:36 <MrMobodies> that looks like a nice cabinet but I notice the PDU has a serial port
37:38 <MrMobodies> interesting
38:04 <MrMobodies> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HDsAAOSwG8Zfk2Xh/s-l500.png
39:14 <MrMobodies> birds?
39:20 <MrMobodies> am I missing something?
41:16 <MrMobodies> aaah just now by holding the middle button (jump) whilst moving forward and it keeps on jumping so that must be the bunny jump.
41:33 <MrMobodies> it's that simple...
42:10 <MrMobodies> I mean in Xonotic
42:41 <MrMobodies> so to keep on jumping just hold the middle mouse button down.
43:04 <MrMobodies> and it accelerators gradually
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45:19 <Ampera> space is jump
45:22 <Ampera> at least how I have it bound
45:24 <Ampera> so you probably want to use that
47:49 <MrMobodies> a bit like bouncing around to the place in a controlled manner
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51:28 <MrMobodies> oh the space bar mapped that was mapped to jump, I changed to to middle mouse button
52:19 <T3sl4> funnily enough, you're very close to what speedrunners do
52:33 <T3sl4> often they use scroll wheel, to spam jump to get it perfect
52:44 <T3sl4> that's more of a half life thing than a quake thing tho
54:21 <MrMobodies> the scroll I use to change weapons and the click to jumo
54:26 <MrMobodies> I find it convenient
54:52 <MrMobodies> I just like the moment when I snipe someone in the air
55:10 <MrMobodies> when flying I mean
55:20 <MrMobodies> in the head
56:11 <T3sl4> just don't fat-finger it and change weps accidentally
56:37 <T3sl4> (i grew up on doom so i'm very handy with the number keys to change weps, i almost never need to use scroll for that)
56:59 <MrMobodies> I always use to get stuck in Doom
57:28 <MrMobodies> and took me ages to find the whatveer it is to move on the next map
57:39 <MrMobodies> I like the music though
58:18 <T3sl4> the original maps are pretty blah, they've been handily surpassed by mods
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58:53 <T3sl4> and i mean, there's only 28 years of doom modding, so it's not like that's very hard to achieve
01:47 <MrMobodies> there was a game that I remember that had a third person engine and i think it was called Blood 2
01:55 <MrMobodies> ahh Lithtec engine
02:02 <MrMobodies> and it was unstable
02:09 <T3sl4> yeah that one wasn't so great
02:12 <MrMobodies> 20 years ago
02:19 <T3sl4> lots did, probably tomb raider first
02:24 <MrMobodies> I liked it when it worked but it kept on stopping
02:25 <T3sl4> heretic 2 did it with the quake 2 engine
02:40 <T3sl4> and american mcgee's alice with q3 engine heh
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03:24 <T3sl4> tons of console games of course, sm64 and the like
03:54 <Ampera> T3sl4, bhop began with quake
04:00 <T3sl4> ye
04:12 <Ampera> most of its incarnations are from engines that descended from the quake engine
04:16 <Ampera> (though others do exist)
04:22 <Ampera> it's performed in a variety of ways depending on game
04:26 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/N2gxS2F.jpg
04:26 <MrMobodies> the last time i played quake was 20 years ago and I never knew about Bhop
04:34 <Ampera> the easiest by far is Half-Life 2, which simply requires autofire jump
04:41 <Ampera> quake and half-life are far more complicated, however
05:05 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/eqi2NWB
05:23 <T3sl4> hl2 old engine has bhop, hl2 orange box+ has abh
05:28 <T3sl4> abh super op
05:47 <T3sl4> speaking of, super mario 64 has BLJ, same idea, no speed cap in reverse
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06:56 <Ampera> abh is op but it's impossible to control
07:04 <Ampera> you really need to know exactly what you're doing
07:26 <T3sl4> i've barely even tried it. even the best speedrunners have a heck of a time dealing with it
07:28 <Ampera> as is at least goldsrc bhop, since afaik you're not allowed to move forward, and potentially not even allowed to strafe
07:40 <Ampera> I've never managed to successfully bhop controllably in Half-Life
07:43 <T3sl4> the skill cap is insane, which means the TASs are incredible
08:02 <electrohead> heh, I haven't played half life in a good minute
08:46 <Ampera> Half-Life and Half-Life 2 are in the truly broken category of TAS
08:59 <T3sl4> i haven't even played FTL in a good the time taken to type this message
09:00 <Ampera> it's more OOB than game
09:09 <Ampera> I never liked FTL
09:10 <T3sl4> oob runs are bae
09:21 <Ampera> maybe I was just stupid, but it always seemed insanely hard
09:39 <Ampera> put it this way, I cheat engined the game ages ago to give me infinite scrap and pretty much whatever, and I still couldn't beat it
10:03 <T3sl4> heheh
10:09 <T3sl4> yeah, it has a high skill cap
10:29 <MrMobodies> Half Life 1?
10:31 <Ampera> I'm replaying ion fury at the moment
10:37 <T3sl4> another way of saying, there's a lot of events to memorize which options to pick, and combinations of weps/defenses work
10:54 <MrMobodies> What I use to do is is explore the map find out where things were and then play it
10:56 <T3sl4> so, if it seems more memorization than cleverness, that's valid
11:36 <MrMobodies> the same with Unreal
11:55 <MrMobodies> I find it is nice to know the map
12:08 <MrMobodies> and all the secrets
13:20 <Ampera> More luck than skill, I suppose, which is similar
13:44 <Ampera> In general, any game where I can run around and shoot things I'm fairly decent at
13:59 <Ampera> the more speed and accuracy are rewarded, the better I tend to be
16:07 <MrMobodies> bet you could do plenty of head shots whilst floating in the air
16:30 <MrMobodies> with a sniper kind of weapon
16:40 <MrMobodies> in one swipe
19:07 <MrMobodies> I am not a very good player in multiplayer, I just hide and I think they refer to it as camping and they call me a coward which maybe true
19:28 <Ampera> camping is a valid strategy
19:34 <Ampera> I don't need to do it
19:38 <Ampera> but it's a fun crutch to play against
20:00 <MrMobodies> I was criticised by many players who left the fame
20:03 <T3sl4> the advanced strat is controlling an area, when you can manage it
20:05 <MrMobodies> for doing that
20:16 <Ampera> the advanced strat is click on head
20:18 <Ampera> head go boom
20:24 <MrMobodies> that's my favourite
20:35 <MrMobodies> one swipe and they respawn somewhere
20:58 <T3sl4> i remember one occasion in... q2dm5? the slimy place, there's a spot with heavy armor, rocket launcher and a bit of ammo that i managed to control for the better part of the run
21:14 <T3sl4> think that was still the best KDR i ever got
21:26 <Ampera> would you guys like a xonotic server?
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21:38 <Ampera> jspiros set one up a while ago, which is probably down now, but I can always set one up myself
21:41 <Ampera> it's great fun
22:03 <T3sl4> i'd give it a try, i'll have to remember to install it ofc
22:17 <MrMobodies> okay
22:30 <Ampera> let me look at sticking it on my FreeBSD box, one sec
23:48 <MrMobodies> I know I am likely to loose but it'll be a bit fun.
23:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, you up for it?
28:11 <MrMobodies> well I am up for it
31:42 <Ampera> alright, just need to forward it and we should be good to go
31:44 <Ampera> T3sl4, MrMobodies
31:56 <T3sl4> coo
32:25 <T3sl4> i can't do it right now but remind me in a uh, tomorrow i guess, hrm
36:10 <Ampera> MrMobodies, if you want to hop on, the address is amperaa.net
36:37 <MrMobodies> game just hanged
37:12 <MrMobodies> aah it searches as I type the letters in
38:26 <MrMobodies> okay I type in address ampera.net
38:31 <Ampera> amperaa.net
38:50 <Ampera> (guess what domain was taken :P)
38:51 <MrMobodies> Servers Address: amperaa.net
39:06 <MrMobodies> it doesn't do anything, maybe i am not doing something right
39:09 <Ampera> so you know when you start up xonotic?
39:15 <Ampera> you have Singleplayer Multiplayer and Settings
39:18 <Ampera> select the Multiplayer window
39:25 <Ampera> and at the bottom where it says Address, type in amperaa.net
39:32 <Ampera> it should appear in the list above
39:46 <Ampera> you might also be able to search for it by typing in "EEVBlog" into the filter
39:50 <Ampera> as it should be on the public server list
40:49 Quit: smb784 ([email protected]) Connection closed
42:03 <MrMobodies> port number?
42:20 <Ampera> I didn't need it, but it should be 23870
43:02 <Ampera> If Xonotic supports SRV records I'll use those
45:15 <Ampera> MrMobodies, try searching "EEVBlog" in the server list
46:23 <MrMobodies> checked alphabetically, refreshed too, still can't see it
46:46 <MrMobodies> tried the port number and with the ip too as well as the domain
47:40 <T3sl4> try on console, connect amperaa.net ?
47:42 <MrMobodies> I just checked and joined one of them trying install packs and it
47:45 <MrMobodies> okay
48:38 <MrMobodies> unable to find suitable network socket to connect to server
48:40 <Ampera> I'm wondering if it's not communicating with the master server
49:56 <T3sl4> shouldn't need master if it's direct ip or domain
50:04 <T3sl4> check your forwarding?
50:10 <MrMobodies> shouldn't my connection attempts appear in your firewall state
50:17 <Ampera> it's forwarded and firewall is allowed, IPv4 and IPv6
54:53 <Ampera> I'm kinda baffled
55:08 <Ampera> it shows up on the server list for me, but I don't know if the server list populates through LAN or master server only
55:19 <Ampera> online master server listings don't show it, but those lists could simply be on a slow refresh
05:14 <Halcyon> I just bought a server rack :)
05:39 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/IBM-7014T42-42U-Server-Rack-Communications-Cabinet-2x-PDUs-600mm-x-1098mm/274546184099
07:01 <Ampera> The only curious thing is the connections MrMobodies was making were to port 443
07:13 <Ampera> (from the active states)
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10:58 <Ampera> I think I found out the problem
11:15 <Ampera> the forwards were for TCP, when xonotic uses UDP
20:19 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you want to join us?
20:30 <Ampera> now that I've figured out what a UDP is
25:22 <Halcyon> What are you guys doing?
26:47 <Ampera> Halcyon, playing a FOSS fps called Xonotic
26:48 <therealazzurro> configuring my manjaro installation :D
27:01 <Ampera> would make a really nice thing for people from the channel to play on
27:13 <Halcyon> What does it involve? I know nothing about games as you know
27:32 <Halcyon> therealazzurro, I think you'll really like it. It's my daily driver too after trying several distros and not being happy with them
27:34 <Ampera> man runs
27:35 <Ampera> click on man
27:36 <Ampera> man dead
27:44 <Halcyon> Mmmmk
27:58 <Ampera> it's called xonotic
28:00 <Halcyon> And what do I need to do to play it?
28:02 <Ampera> look for it in your local package manager
28:09 <Ampera> a computer, preferably one with a 3D accelerator
28:37 <Halcyon> 900 MB! Seriously?
28:40 <Halcyon> This better be good
28:58 <Ampera> that's not much for a game
29:03 <Ampera> most of my steam games take dozens of GB
29:05 <Halcyon> You're not much for a game
29:24 <Halcyon> Finnne I'll install it
29:32 <jaymax> Uses the Quake engine if you need an indicator.
29:34 <Halcyon> But I warn you, my attention span for games is generally limited
29:41 <Halcyon> Are you guys Discording?
30:23 <Ampera> nope
30:36 <Halcyon> Aw why
30:48 <Ampera> afaik he's not even in my discord
31:14 <Halcyon> MrMobodies? That can be fixed right?
31:44 <Halcyon> Argh FFS, Discord wants an update
32:02 <Halcyon> Which one do I run, GLX or SDL ?
32:08 <Ampera> SDL
32:13 <Ampera> (Works for me the best)
32:21 <Halcyon> Okies
32:28 <Ampera> search for "EEVBlog" in the server list
33:52 <Halcyon> I cannot see EEVBlog in the server list
34:15 <Ampera> just do ~, then connect amperaa.net:23870
36:22 <Halcyon> OK, I clearly suck at this
40:45 <Halcyon> I'm going to go back to SimCity 2000
40:46 <Halcyon> :P
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03:09 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/YgOYLDf5Wv8?t=39
03:12 <Halcyon> FUCK THAT
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06:08 <Halcyon> I love bees, I love having them around, but I don't want to get that close to them
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14:03 <Ampera> That was fun
14:18 <Ampera> MrMobodies, as I said, any time you want me to hop on and I have nothing better to do, let me know
14:28 <Ampera> I'll keep the server running for now
14:34 <MrMobodies> that would be good
14:43 <MrMobodies> maybe advertise on the forum get some more players in
14:49 <Ampera> I thought about that
14:54 <Ampera> or stick it in the topic in the channel
15:20 <MrMobodies> enjoyable game and I learnt something new
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20:39 <MrMobodies> an hour gone so quick
20:48 <MrMobodies> I let my beer freeze
20:56 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/nzxen7v.jpg
29:05 <Halcyon> Beer slushy!
30:52 * Ampera falls asleep ontop of Halcyon
31:22 <Ampera> I <3 u
31:27 <Ampera> dickhead
32:24 <Halcyon> :D
32:27 <Halcyon> Aw you're sweet
34:18 <Ampera> I think I will noodle
34:49 * Halcyon handles Ampera's noodle
35:07 <Ampera> please don't touch my noodle
35:17 <Ampera> I don't like it when you touch my noodle
35:21 <Halcyon> You don't like head massages?
35:21 <Halcyon> :P
35:41 <Ampera> that's what they're calling blowjobs these days?
35:44 <Ampera> ew
35:55 <Halcyon> What head are you thinking about? Filthy bitch
36:09 <Ampera> the one with the mouth
36:16 <Ampera> what for sticking things in
36:27 <Halcyon> Exactly
39:32 <Ampera> tonkotsu with black garlic oil
40:44 <Halcyon> Yum
12:45 <MrMobodies> Halycon you said you got bored of the game whilst I was enjoying
13:01 <MrMobodies> shame it could give you satisfaction
13:12 <MrMobodies> oops *couldn't
13:35 <MrMobodies> made my day that did
14:44 <MrMobodies> I'll stay connected to see if I can attract some punters on there
24:29 <electrohead> o/
25:18 <MrMobodies> interesting video on Russian vs Intel cpu's
25:19 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wENB2egaDMs
27:14 <Halcyon> Yeh I just watched that one
27:32 <Halcyon> MrMobodies, I mostly just suck at games
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29:18 <electrohead> Halcyon: I just put some of your sauce on my food
29:21 <electrohead> lol
29:25 <Halcyon> :P
29:27 <Halcyon> Which one?
30:42 <electrohead> chilli factory - outback storm - hot roast tomato chilli basil relish
30:45 <electrohead> <3
30:52 <Halcyon> Oh that stuff is nice
31:41 <electrohead> I wish it was spicier, though
31:44 <electrohead> the flavor is amazing
31:57 <Halcyon> I used it as a relish on sandwiches mostly
32:52 <electrohead> margaret brought me down some home made beefaroni
33:14 <electrohead> and I put like, 1/3 of the jar in it
33:16 <electrohead> lol
33:18 <Halcyon> Macaroni with beef?
33:38 <electrohead> yeah
33:40 <electrohead> <3
34:20 <Halcyon> :P
36:45 <electrohead> so good
36:47 <electrohead> :p
40:41 <MrMobodies> Halycon if you decide to join again and i am there I won't kill you
41:36 <MrMobodies> with you being there and Ampera gets distracted
41:43 <Halcyon> Hahah
41:52 <MrMobodies> and I can have my way a bit
41:53 <Halcyon> Maybe another day
42:02 <Halcyon> I have people coming around shortly
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58:22 <electrohead> alright, I'm off to bed
58:24 <electrohead> o/
59:24 <Tezzers> ...Do people in european countries not have an equivalent to solo cups?
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14:51 <Halcyon> What's a solo cup?
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34:51 <Tezzers> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68
35:57 <Halcyon> Oh yes we have those
36:07 <Halcyon> But most people don't use them
36:22 <Tezzers> That's weird
36:35 <Halcyon> There is no need. Beers mostly come in bottles or cans
36:42 <Halcyon> And wine drinkers don't drink from plastic :P
37:02 <Tezzers> I mean, I admit, I'm probably fucked up - but I literally, if my life depended on it, can't drink out of a mug or glass without dribbling liquid all over my face.
37:13 <Halcyon> Interesting
37:16 <Tezzers> It's gotta be a cup with a lip, preferably a solo cup.
37:23 <Halcyon> :P
37:28 <Tezzers> But I've been drinking almost exclusively out of solo cups for years at home.
37:29 <Halcyon> So you're a grub? :P
37:58 <Halcyon> Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMWZ1n-XjP4
38:04 <Tezzers> A grub?
38:10 <Halcyon> One of Was (Not Was)'s least known songs, but it's good
38:24 <Halcyon> A grub is someone you can't take anywhere. Who gets food or whatever on themselves :P
38:29 <Halcyon> Or is just "grubby"
39:10 <Tezzers> I mean, I do't have that problem in general. Just with drinks if they're in like coffee mugs and shit :shrug:
39:19 <Tezzers> Especially those really horrible super thick coffee mugs
39:44 <Halcyon> I guess practice makes perfect?
39:49 <Halcyon> I hate drinking from plasti
39:49 <Halcyon> c
39:53 <Halcyon> I hate plastic in general
40:25 <Halcyon> Even my food containers I freeze food in are glass
40:56 <Tezzers> What food do you pack in glass and *freeze*?
41:05 <Tezzers> What food are you storing for *that* long?
41:10 <Halcyon> Leftovers from dinner, sauces etc...
41:12 <Halcyon> Normal stuff
41:26 <Tezzers> You freeze leftovers?
41:32 <Halcyon> It's not about the time, it's just food doesn't stay edible in the fridge mostly past a week
41:34 <Halcyon> Yeh of course
41:52 <Halcyon> I made curry the other night, so I made extra rice and stuff, put it in a container and froze it so I can take it to work
42:04 <Halcyon> Stuff like that freezes very well without losing texture
42:10 <Tezzers> Really?
42:15 <Halcyon> Pasta too, freezes extremely well
42:17 <Halcyon> Yep
42:21 <Tezzers> Wiat
42:30 <Halcyon> Pizza too
42:34 <Tezzers> How the fuck do you re-heat pasta that you froze, and not have it all fucked up?
42:39 <Halcyon> In the microwave?
42:44 <Tezzers> Excuse me? No. Pizza is too fucking far.
42:49 <Tezzers> What the fuck is wrong with you?
43:02 <Halcyon> Honestly, if you froze pizza and reheated it on a pan or in the oven, you wouldn't tell
43:11 <Halcyon> In fact, I find it comes out BETTER and slightly crispier
43:13 <Tezzers> Yes, yes you would.
43:27 <Tezzers> And not all pizza is supposed to be crispy.
43:37 <Halcyon> It's not supposed to be soggy
43:40 <Halcyon> Like microwaved pizza
44:03 <Tezzers> I never said it should be microwaved, and you can mitigate a lot of that with paper towels.
44:04 <Halcyon> Seriously though, my freezer is full of food. I take lunch with me to work every day
44:16 <Tezzers> But really, pizza should be eaten hot, or room temp
44:23 <Tezzers> Cold isn't terrible either.
44:29 <Halcyon> Yes but if you don't eat it all, throwing it out is a waste
44:34 <Tezzers> But that's if you're not too lazy to wrap it and put it in the fridge :shrug:
44:44 <Halcyon> It lasts a few days in the fridge
44:49 <Halcyon> I wouldn't eat it past that
45:40 <Tezzers> If you're eating it for breakfast you don't *really* need to refrigerate it, imo. I wouldn't serve other people 12 hour room temp pizza, but I've never gotten sick from it myself :shrug:
45:59 <Halcyon> Sure, breakfast pizza is fine
46:23 <Tezzers> And I mean, if you're eating it past a few days, why would you order that much?
46:32 <Halcyon> But yeh, rice, pasta, both freeze exceptionally well (with the exception of stir fry's, the vegetables go soggy)
46:40 <Halcyon> *shrug*
47:05 <Halcyon> Salmon, perfectly fine in the freezer
47:25 <Halcyon> Lasagne, reeeeeally good to make in large batches then frozen
47:32 <Halcyon> You just have to heat it slowly and for a bit longer
47:50 <Tezzers> I've seen the frozen lasagnas our family buys.
48:00 <Tezzers> Forget about the smell, that pasta looks *disgusting*.
48:27 <Halcyon> I mean, lasagne made from scratch
48:34 <Halcyon> Not that store bought shit
48:42 <Skaface82> lasagna is great to make and freeze
48:46 <Halcyon> That stuff is a horrible mess
48:48 <Tezzers> They all love it though. Hell, when my grandfather was alive he'd come over for that Costco lasagna and rave about it like it was the best damn thing on earth
48:58 <Halcyon> Yehhhh no
48:59 <Skaface82> you get like 6 meals from it, I think its better after it has been frozen
49:06 <Halcyon> I even make my own pasta when I have the time/can be bothered
49:14 <Halcyon> But dried lasagne sheets work well too
49:17 <Tezzers> Fresh pasta is gross
49:21 <Halcyon> I agreee Skaface82
49:34 <Halcyon> The sauce has time to do its thing
49:49 <Tezzers> My sister made fresh pasta a few times, it was horrible. No comparison to the stuff that comes in a box.
49:58 <Halcyon> She made it wrong then
50:07 <Tezzers> I mean, everyone else liked it. >_>
50:08 <Halcyon> Fresh pasta has so much more flavour and texture
50:18 <Tezzers> That was the nasty part.
50:27 <Halcyon> So you like it limp and lifeless?
50:28 <Halcyon> :P
51:34 <Tezzers> I like my pasta plain, with butter. Sometimes I'll do red sauce from a jar - Prego 3 cheese. Francesco Rinaldi 4 cheese *maybe*, but not a big fan of it...No other sauces though.
51:39 <Halcyon> If you have a good pasta, all you need is a knob of butter, some olive oil, fresh parmigiano reggiano and maybe a sprinkle of dried chilli flakes and/or basic
51:40 <Tezzers> Especially *no fucking meat*.
51:42 <Halcyon> basil
51:54 <Halcyon> Maybe an egg too
51:56 <Tezzers> What is wrong with you people?
52:01 <Tezzers> Let pasta taste like pasta jfc
52:04 <Halcyon> We have taste? :P
52:16 <Halcyon> Pesto is great too
52:30 <Halcyon> Sometimes with food, especially good quality food, less is more
52:31 <Tezzers> I tried pasta and chicken and red sauce once. It was a horrible combination.
52:40 <Halcyon> You don't need to pack it full of ingredients and smother it in sauces
52:52 <Tezzers> I didn't even finish that. I don't understand these combinations people do
53:20 <Halcyon> If I do a bolognese, I usually use 50/50 beef/veal or beef/pork mince
53:38 <Halcyon> I haved used kangaroo mince before too, that's really nice
53:57 <Halcyon> *have
53:57 <Tezzers> ...Wait, you can buy kangaroo meat?
54:35 <Halcyon> You can buy mince, steaks, diced meat, sausages in most supermarkets here
54:47 <Halcyon> Really high in protein and low in fat
54:57 <Tezzers> That just sounds fucked up
55:20 <Tezzers> That'd be like walking into a supermarket and buying...idk, bear meat :shrug:
57:33 <Skaface82> you can sometimes get crocodile too
57:51 <Tezzers> That sounds like classic Florida Man
58:27 <Halcyon> Yeh we have crocodile sausages here in supermarkets
58:40 <Halcyon> I've had emu on pizza before, that was nice
58:56 <Skaface82> is it like chicken?
58:59 <Halcyon> But yeh kangaroo meat is delicious, slightly "gamey"
59:01 <Halcyon> More or less
59:26 <Halcyon> Anyway I have visitors, back later
59:29 <Skaface82> bye
00:24 <MrMobodies> I like my pizza cold
00:37 <Skaface82> in the morning with a hangover?
00:43 <MrMobodies> oh the window stuck
00:52 <MrMobodies> I find it less runny
01:07 <MrMobodies> and I do wrap everything in foil when it goes in the fridge
14:41 <Tezzers> Less runny? What kind of pizza do you get? >_>
15:41 <Skaface82> im making pizza tonight, prawn, mushroom and cheese, with some fresh avocado and garlic aeoli on top
15:46 <Skaface82> best combination EVER
16:13 <Tezzers> It's shameful what people call pizza
16:20 <steve30> I'm just debating whether to go out later
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18:50 <gnif> o/
19:04 <Skaface82> do it Steve
22:51 <steve30> Yet another fascinating ebay product: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Test-item-26/203337822534?hash=item2f57e0f146:g:0WQAAOSwK4Fga5Hn
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43:58 * Erhard is very inerested in that Test Item 26. Test Item 25 was really nice.
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53:28 <steve30> I need coffee
26:13 * gnif throws a coffee on steve30 
26:20 <steve30> :)
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32:41 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
37:34 <steve30> hi
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42:54 <Ysjoelfir> well, that was.... interesting. my IRC client decided to fuck up and immediately minimise all channels the moment I open them.
43:03 <Ysjoelfir> also, mornings steve30
48:20 <Ysjoelfir> so.... can someone explain to me what "Inodes" are in terms of webhosting? My hoster offered me to move my webhosting from my old, HDD based system, to a SSD based system, only difference is those 100.000 Inodes (which I don't "had" before) and only one free domain instead of three.
49:13 <steve30> not sure
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36:31 <hsn> inodes arent these are related to files in file systems
37:03 <hsn> https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-filesystem-inodes.html
37:04 <hsn> these ?
38:16 <Skaface82> is it some sort of file system restriction to stop wear on their SSD's?
38:27 <steve30> hsn, thats what i thought
38:59 <hsn> steve30, but .. idk also how its related to web hosting :D
39:59 <Skaface82> 100 or 100,000
40:22 <Skaface82> it would be a maximum number of files you can store on it
40:29 <steve30> he's german so probably 100000
40:31 <hsn> 100 is toooo little
40:33 <Skaface82> yeah
41:01 <hsn> 100 is useless ssd xD
41:30 <steve30> in related news i just bought an mSATA to IDE adaptor off ebay
41:58 <Skaface82> if its a problem, just mount a single file as a loopback device and store millions of files :P
42:14 <hsn> so now u can do programming compiling using mSATA steve30 ?
42:53 <hsn> Skaface82, u seem a wizard :D
43:10 <Skaface82> like how you buy a server with minimal ram and set up a huge swapfile on their SSD
44:16 <hsn> can u setup swap file while u booted inside the system ?
44:40 <Skaface82> yeah
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55:20 <Skaface82> /dev/sda2 30498816 345582 30153234 2% /
55:34 <Skaface82> im using 345,000 inodes on my desktop system
56:35 <Skaface82> of a possible 30,498,816
57:08 <Ysjoelfir> so basically, inodes = files?
57:22 <Skaface82> pretty much yeah
57:37 <Ysjoelfir> then why the hack don't they call it files?
57:40 <Skaface82> you can hard link a file, which means 2 inodes will point to the one block of data
57:47 <Ysjoelfir> ah
57:55 <Ysjoelfir> well ok. thats the reason
58:26 <Skaface82> im running a pretty basic web server, and its using 159,000 inodes
58:37 <Skaface82> so 100,000 is pretty restrictive really
58:43 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... yes.
59:34 <Ysjoelfir> though its only a webhosting thingemabob, not a dedicated server or anything. so I would think that those 100k inodes are only the stuff I upload, not the stuff that makes the server tick?
59:49 <Skaface82> ah yeah that would be fine then
00:02 <Skaface82> sorry i thought you meant it was a virtual server
06:32 <Ysjoelfir> no, I have no idea how I would manage that.
07:20 <hsn> inodes also store information about files .. i think
07:25 <Ysjoelfir> I am not even able to set up my new hardware to make a linux NAS and send that "nice" intel celeron 1.1GHz thing into retirement. and no, I don't want to use freenas or whatnot
07:38 <hsn> metadata stuff
08:07 <hsn> u want to use paidnas ?
08:52 <Skaface82> i use freenas here, its great
09:45 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, no, I just want to use the hardware for other stuff as well. also I tried freenas before and hated it. same for nas4free.
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10:21 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, u know that im just trying to be annoying right ? :D
10:29 <Ysjoelfir> yes <3
10:33 <hsn> xD ok
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13:55 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
14:26 <Ysjoelfir> do you want to setup my NAS remotely using some linux? :D
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14:50 <Skaface82> i will 8-D
17:13 <Ysjoelfir> Are you bored? XD why would anybody want to do that in his spare time?
17:34 <Skaface82> hah i was just kidding, i thought the 8-D would scare you off
18:36 <Ysjoelfir> nah. I know worse than that. I have been around Halcyon, T3sl4 and Ampera for some years now :P
20:20 * steve30 coffees
20:38 * Ysjoelfir Yuzu teas
20:48 * Ysjoelfir sprinkles some yuzu into steve30 's coffee
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36:02 * Ysjoelfir has the same
36:15 * Ysjoelfir 's heater is still only lukewarm though
37:18 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, no i will destroy it :D
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37:30 <Ysjoelfir> aww
37:35 <Ysjoelfir> ok, then Halcyon has to do it
37:38 <hsn> im not so wiz in linux .. and remote is getting harder
37:42 <Ysjoelfir> though he would probably charge for it.
38:02 <hsn> i need to learn this nas thingy
38:08 <hsn> seems cool thing to have lol
38:13 <hsn> even though i dont need it
38:31 <hsn> i need to go shopping .. so cya
39:59 <steve30> My email server seems to have conked out
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44:20 * Ysjoelfir cocks steve30 's mail server back in
51:30 <T3sl4> oh my
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19:59 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/3jk6Jc1.jpg
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38:36 <rust_collector> moining
38:43 <steve30> hi
40:46 <rust_collector> hello mr steve, tell us what time it is!
40:53 <rust_collector> it is....
41:16 <rust_collector> come on, I am thirsty...
43:59 <Ysjoelfir> its mornings!
44:31 <rust_collector> it is that
48:17 <Ysjoelfir> indeed!
48:25 <steve30> 1346
48:42 <rust_collector> noooooo
48:48 <rust_collector> it is COFFEE TIME!
49:27 * steve30 needs alcohol
50:17 <rust_collector> irish coffee time!
50:40 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 a fresh bottle of raki and some ice
52:08 * T3sl4 car bombs rust_collector
52:25 <T3sl4> oh wait, that's a different irish drink
53:44 <rust_collector> I like that they did wake up the irish again. this can get entertaining
53:59 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
55:28 <T3sl4> aye, maybe a little on the nose now that brexit is going through
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27:52 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir how is your handle production going?
33:14 <coppice> the brexit and lockdown combination had to see Northern Ireland blow up in the end
54:15 <T3sl4> hm, does NI have a large dependence on tourism?
55:11 <rust_collector> I think they go home on holiday some times, which probably counts as tourism
57:26 <electrohead> o/
58:50 * T3sl4 mornhugs electrohead
59:56 * electrohead mornhugs T3sl4
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