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00:34 <Reg7805> no i prefer to use open source software anyway, because im trying to make linux my daily driver but his properitary software is making it very diffucult
00:58 <electrohead> Reg7805: you could always use a virtual machine, if possible?
01:05 <electrohead> but yeah, linux all the way is nice :p
01:37 <arch> haven't used windows for anything professional since 2012 or so
02:25 <Reg7805> yes i do use virtual machines, i have ibm x3650 m4 server for that
03:16 <arch> look at mr moneybags right here
03:36 <electrohead> lol
04:26 <Reg7805> mr moneybags??
05:25 <arch> yea, as in rich mofo
06:01 <Reg7805> no not rich actually
06:44 <Reg7805> i was lucky to even get a server for learning purposes
11:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Just got this privacy update on my older Sony TV TLDR; agree to this or your smart TV stops being a smart TV https://t.co/ShQbyuvfPP
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12:32 Join: steve30 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
14:34 <steve30> I just received a box from Australia
15:35 <nuclearcatlb> It seems forum spits sometimes 502 Bad Gateway
16:18 <nuclearcatlb> Guys, what is best IRC client for Linux? Smuxi is terrible, no autocompletion on @nick, no search, etc etc
16:19 <Reg7805> yes, it does, smae with me aswell
16:37 <steve30> I use Hexchat on linux
16:52 <therealazzurro> that's due to php processes maxing out according to gnif. they are still only running on one instead of two load balanced nodes iirc
17:35 <T3sl4> rather slow as well, but yeah, to be expected
17:53 <nuclearcatlb> Thank you @steve30
18:22 <steve30> I'm sure there are other good ones. I have indeed used others years ago, but stuck with hexchat
18:58 <therealazzurro> yeah it is so slow that nobody has replied to my cc mode lab supply oscillation issue yet, for almost HALF AN HOUR!!11 :D
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19:46 * T3sl4 sticks a capacitor on therealazzurro
19:54 <therealazzurro> haha :D
19:57 Quit: nuclearcatlb ([email protected]) EOF from client
20:33 <therealazzurro> how're you all doing dis fancy color x is doing y on z stuff :D
21:01 <nuclear_> Hexchat is way better!
22:20 * electrohead throws weechat at everyone
23:25 <T3sl4> don't wee on me
25:55 <arch> is this correct? this is what's in the TI appnote for sepic comp: load pole estimated: 1 / [ 2 x pi x R_load x L2 x C_out ]
26:35 <arch> i thought it was 1 / 2*pi*radical(L*C) but might be mistaken
27:58 <arch> nvm i was thinking resonant freq
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28:04 <therealazzurro> i wish dave would do a video on opamp control loop compensation and stabilization. just showing some examples using the scope how the result changes if he changes or puts in certain values and why, with some theoretical background and stuff... kinda lot of work though, i guess..
28:28 <arch> yeah, for sure...it's confusing shit too. but im slowly getting the hang of it
28:42 <arch> like 2 months ago i compensated my first buck reg, so that was fun
29:30 <therealazzurro> i envy you. for me, having absolutely no education on EE, this is a complete mistery to me.
29:42 <Reg7805> learning opamps at the college, intresting, i have learned more math than theory, lol
30:04 <arch> im not in the EE field either therealazzurro
30:08 <therealazzurro> absolutely no education besides every single video dave made, only understanding like 40% of many of his videos which go in-depth
30:29 <therealazzurro> even more envying then :D
30:54 <arch> IT pays enough money for me to afford the fancy toys that EE get to work with. well, most of the fancy toys anyways...im never gonna be able to afford those $200k 10GHz scopes and whatnot :D
31:28 <therealazzurro> yeah and dave pulls those out of the dumpster. plays with them and puts them back in xD
31:54 <therealazzurro> Reg7805: i wish i would have learned that in school/college
32:37 <Reg7805> that is anooying as hell when poeple good working stuff into the dumpster
32:56 <arch> or awesome as hell. depends on if you're the one dumpster diving
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33:42 <therealazzurro> IT pays for many toys here as well. scope, multimeters, tons of parts... but still no professional lab psu or a electronic load
33:47 <Reg7805> yes, it is fun when i find stuff but in the there is barelly anything good in the dumpsters
34:41 <arch> bruh, a scope is $350 for quad channel, and $250 for dual channel 100MHz
34:51 <electrohead> I wish there were dumpsters with o-scopes here where I live :/
35:32 <arch> lab psu is $100 used off ebay, and you can get those beefy as fuck HP or agilent ones that go in a rack
35:50 <Reg7805> i wish there was any type of electronics in the dumpster where i live
35:54 <arch> forget buying those shitty made in china 10A lab psus. tehy explode
36:37 <hsn> arch lol
36:41 <hsn> I thought so
36:45 <hsn> I ve two
37:07 <Reg7805> i have managed year go to snap up agilent 6642A lab power supply from ebay for £150
37:08 <hsn> Didnt use them though
37:51 <K> oh look, it is hsn
38:07 <hsn> K: live and alive
39:05 <hsn> Arch they didnt explode .. u know why?
39:18 <arch> why
39:27 <hsn> Because i dont use them
39:36 <arch> you don't say? *nicholas cage face*
39:38 <hsn> Muahahaha
39:52 <K> poor hsn has fever
40:14 <hsn> K im ok now .. just coughing .. no
40:24 <hsn> No fever or any other covid stuff
41:25 <K> so you are basically sitting at home and getting paid by employer/king ?
42:13 <arch> leeching of that oil money
42:22 <arch> it's gonna run out in 10 years tho
42:38 <K> it is gonna run out in 10 years for last 30 years
43:17 <arch> 4th time is the charm
43:24 <K> the other side of "fusion is just 10 years away", eh
43:31 <arch> lol word
43:37 <arch> or returning to the moon
43:56 <K> going to moon to collect rocks makes no sense
44:02 <arch> how much you wanna bet this SLS mission to the moon will get delayed again
44:07 <Reg7805> need all that helium3 from the moon for fussion
44:17 <arch> that's a possiblity
44:55 <K> yeah, the tech tree is not that well explained
45:14 <K> and silly humans just bang into wall for years and years
46:07 <arch> we're stuck with Kerbal Space Program for the next 20 years until then
46:26 <electrohead> that's a fun game
47:53 <arch> i have 1100 hours on it
48:06 <arch> been waiting 7 fucking years for multiplayer
49:26 <Reg7805> i think there is new kerbal space program is comming?
50:41 <arch> that was supposed to have been out last year, but they delayed it until at least 2022 i believe
50:58 <hsn> K, unfortunatelly until sunday
51:10 <arch> https://www.kerbalspaceprogram.com/game/kerbal-space-program-2/
51:13 <arch> launching 2022
51:28 <hsn> arch and K i actually think oil price affected us "the poor ppl" :D
51:50 <hsn> for many, its not very satisfying here ..
52:03 <hsn> well, fck the wealthy ppl ..
52:21 <hsn> :D the ones here i mean .. they do nothing and own a bugatti
54:27 <K> you you do not have a small oil pump in back yard?
58:05 <K> fun fact wrt covid: my gf donates blood regularly, and after last time (~6 weeks ago) got call from donor ppl saying she has antibodies, like a lot, over 100 (baseline is 0.05 or somth)
58:27 <K> never had any symptoms, no known associates had any either
59:08 <K> for shits and gigles we both go and do blood test for antibodies
59:17 <K> she still has over 100, i have 0.05
59:32 <Reg7805> it is wierd that some people in the same area do get the virus and others dont
59:37 <Reg7805> lol
00:28 <K> not even same are, same apartment and room and everything
01:27 <Reg7805> yes that what i meant to say
01:31 <therealazzurro> arch: i know, i have a SDS1104X-E 100MHz quad channel scope. as a lab psu I'd go for something in the DP832 range (fits V/A range and pricepoint needs pretty well)
02:05 <Reg7805> therealazzurro have you mod that cope to 200MHz?
02:15 <therealazzurro> no, no need to
02:46 <Reg7805> yes, just asking, i have the same scope aswell, but i have not moded it
04:08 <therealazzurro> regarding lab PSU I'm working with an old selfmade one from my grandpa 0-50V 0-10A if i need "brutal power", a self-made (by me) psu 0-16V -0-4A and my most recent project self-made psu 0-24V 0-1A
04:43 <Reg7805> i will be making my first power supply soon i hope after my studies
05:07 <therealazzurro> that's all I have and so far I've always got along with it but having a professional Lab PSU at some point would still be nice
05:37 <therealazzurro> cool!
05:57 <Reg7805> yes it be nice, use agilent power supply for reparing laptop and stuff because low noise
06:10 <therealazzurro> you can take a look at my 0-16V 0-4A project here, if you want: https://github.com/mamama1/LabPSU_Darlington
06:55 <therealazzurro> i managed to get this thing kind of stable with help from various forums
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07:33 <therealazzurro> and it is not too slow in CC mode, at least it doesn't have thousands of µF right across the output like the riglol DP832
07:41 <Reg7805> cool and use a teensy, i got couple weeks ago, to learn
08:05 <therealazzurro> yes but i was using the arduino framework
08:26 <therealazzurro> i'm way to dumb to be using this on any kind of lower level xD
08:42 <therealazzurro> paul stoffregen is one of my heroes :D
09:20 <Reg7805> well i study your psu, im just begineer
09:28 <therealazzurro> the crispy 128x64 OLED display is one of the nicest things of this design, VERY nice and sharp looking at the values
10:17 <therealazzurro> don't take "my" design as best practice, i think it is quite unusual to do it like this and most certainly not best practice. but it was easy for me to kind of understand and build.
10:27 <Reg7805> yea, nice screen is all ways nice, i dont that cheap looking aurdino dgit screens
11:18 <Reg7805> i will be building my own design everthing, but enjoy looking how other poeple do it, and might learn something
11:20 <therealazzurro> if I'm looking at most of the other analog psu circuit schematics out there, i hardly understand anything
11:50 <Reg7805> me too
12:03 <therealazzurro> a dumbed down version of the design you were looking at is this: https://github.com/mamama1/LabPSU_CA1
12:30 <Reg7805> endup building and probing the circuit to understand
12:39 <therealazzurro> this is the one I'm currently working on, the github files are far away from current but i will update them soon. but you should get an idea
13:17 <therealazzurro> i have understood my design like 95%. what i have definitely not understood is the compensation part :D
13:52 <therealazzurro> the LabPSU_CA1 should be doable under around 100USD/AUD/EUR
14:11 <therealazzurro> the teensy one costs around 200 bucks or even more, never exactly calculated it
14:51 <Reg7805> i will definetly look over schamtics
15:13 <Reg7805> yea cost is the issue when making your own psu
22:38 <therealazzurro> if i count together how much i have spent for making those two PSUs, I could well have afforded a very decent professional one, even from better vendors than rigol or siglent... but this way it definitely was more fun and i have learned a ton
22:57 <Reg7805> i hope some one will be able to help you with the compensation, i would like to help but im still noob
23:43 <Reg7805> i agree, building your own is fun and very educational
24:01 <therealazzurro> Amongst others, Teslacoil and David Hess as well as Kleinstein have been very helpful in the past. But i still need more help if I want this control loop to be really stable
24:41 <Reg7805> are you on the forum?
25:03 <therealazzurro> They are not just random forum members who replied to my posts, they have a place in my heart! :D
25:08 <therealazzurro> yes, nemail2
25:35 <rust_collector> HELLO!
25:50 <therealazzurro> from the other side?
25:55 <Reg7805> im new to the eevblog, i will be registering with the forum, one i find a username
26:11 <Reg7805> need think a good username
26:12 <rust_collector> close to the other side. stuck somewhere in between
26:37 <therealazzurro> same here
27:02 <therealazzurro> what about OPA4197. Very nice Quad Op-Amp
28:06 <Reg7805> i will think about, prety much new to internet
28:20 <Reg7805> cool username tho
28:22 <therealazzurro> are you angela merkel?
28:55 <Reg7805> no
29:16 <rust_collector> that would be cool. I want her to make a little power supply
29:26 <therealazzurro> LM7805CT/NOPB would also be cool, if you want to stick to 7805. that's a TI 7805 variant. TI fanboy here.
30:00 <therealazzurro> i was just wondering, because angela merkel a few years ago said, that the internet is new "to all of us"
30:14 <therealazzurro> there were memes, I can tell oyu
30:18 <brayden> "new to the internet"?
30:25 <brayden> tbh a weird concept now
30:25 <Reg7805> the only reason i pciked 7805, i was playying around with 7805 when i logged into the irc chat
30:30 <brayden> seeing as the internet is so pervasive
31:04 <Reg7805> im never been on the social side of the internet before
31:10 <therealazzurro> not in eastern germany i guess xD
31:25 <rust_collector> well... grandpa probably thinks the internet is this new thing. people at work has never been alive without internet.
32:50 <Reg7805> have been using the internet since 2005
33:13 <Reg7805> bloddy wifi was new to me
33:20 <therealazzurro> are you a youngster?
33:28 <Reg7805> yes, 19
33:31 <rust_collector> yes, and very cute too
33:32 <brayden> geez
33:38 <brayden> now even I'm feeling old
34:07 <rust_collector> brayden that has something to do with your....age....
34:12 <K> old farts all around eh
34:13 <therealazzurro> that explains, I'm feeling old with my winsock and win 3.1 and dos 5 stuff in my memories now :D
34:18 <brayden> yeah well I used to be the baby in every channel
34:24 <therealazzurro> mine smelling VERY old.
34:31 <therealazzurro> speaking of which, gotta run xD
34:39 <brayden> same deal at work
34:55 <Reg7805> what is the age group here?
35:00 <rust_collector> smelly socks and running.
35:09 <therealazzurro> if it only was the socks
35:12 <therealazzurro> 34
35:23 <brayden> 25
35:29 <hsn> K, oil pump back yard ? no .. we actually have it as drinking water
35:43 <rust_collector> uuh. 1979. 40 something
35:54 <brayden> oh wow the magic number
35:57 <K> 41 at least
36:16 <K> 42, even
36:34 <brayden> I've had my birthday, '96
37:50 <Reg7805> well i enjoy talking to yous all, i learn something everyday
38:41 <rust_collector> 84% of it is wrong in some cases, but may be correct in other cases... enjoy figuring out what it is this time
39:39 <K> i wont.
39:52 <K> 84% is quite enough.
39:55 <rust_collector> hsn !!!!
40:10 <rust_collector> hsn is 84% wrong all the time
40:37 <Reg7805> lol
41:11 <brayden> I have no idea but it's somewhere close to 100% of the time
43:03 <rust_collector> I hope I get my transistor in the mail one of these days, so I can also be cool, and make a power supply.
43:25 <Reg7805> china??
43:31 <rust_collector> bulgaria...
43:43 <rust_collector> of all places
44:26 <K> one transistor power supply?
44:31 <K> weak.
44:37 <rust_collector> yep
45:03 <rust_collector> well, it will have more, but yes
45:50 <rust_collector> I want to see what the guy ships. maybe I will order a few more, if it is ok
46:28 <Reg7805> fair enough, dont want a fake transistor
46:57 <rust_collector> I really doubt there will be anything wrong with it. but... yes
46:58 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
51:51 <MrMobodies> eevblog calculate 20mph to kmph
52:28 <MrMobodies> eevblog converter 20mph to kmph
52:28 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
52:52 <MrMobodies> eevblog converter 2l to gallons
52:52 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
53:20 <MrMobodies> eevblog convert 2 litres to gallons
53:20 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.528 gallons
53:33 <MrMobodies> eevblog convert 20mph to kmph
53:33 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
53:49 <MrMobodies> eevblog convert 20mph to kph
53:49 <EEVBlog> The result is: 32.187 kph
58:45 <hsn> EEVBlog, convert 84% of 10 liters to liters
58:54 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 84% of 10 liters to liters
58:54 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
59:29 <hsn> rust_collector, why im 84% right ?
59:50 <nuclear_> eevblog calculate 1 divide by 0
00:12 <hsn> EEVBlog say somthing bad to unclear_
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01:17 <MrMobodies> Oh mistake
01:29 <nuclear_> i hope i didnt killed kenny
01:30 <MrMobodies> eevblog calculate 9f+10
01:32 <hsn> EEVBlog, kill yourself
01:32 Kick: hsn was kicked by EEVBlog (no u.)
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01:44 <nuclear_> ah its alive
02:03 <hsn> EEVBlog, status
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02:06 <EEVBlog> Latest EEVBlog Tweet: https://t.co/JLqMAvW87q
13:31 <hsn> `8ball rust_collector
13:31 <ChanOP> 8ball: rust_collector?? Not even on a GOOD day.!!
18:03 <Reg7805> btw guys, the starship sn 15 is rolling out to pad
29:37 <rust_collector> I remember back in the old days, when they had a little wagon sort of thing they used to move the rockets around, but I guess just rolling them is much cheaper
29:42 <rust_collector> hi hsn !!
29:46 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635631712113786890/829750122224025620/20210408_113411.jpg
29:56 <Ampera> I may have a problem
30:23 <rust_collector> eeh, yes, I mean we knew that, but I thought you had other problems
30:47 <Ampera> electrohead, got your noodles
30:48 <rust_collector> ooh, next to the tofu...
31:08 <Ampera> they didn't have 3x spicy, but 1x is already lethal
31:20 <electrohead> oh cool
31:23 <electrohead> thanks man
31:33 <Ampera> want me to throw in some others?
31:46 <rust_collector> only 1x lethal for you
32:20 <electrohead> you get the 2x?
32:26 <Ampera> yeah
32:30 <Ampera> and 1x
32:38 <Ampera> 5 packs of each
32:45 <electrohead> yeah that's good enough, man
32:53 <Ampera> eat them or pass them on
32:58 <electrohead> you don't need to go all out :p
33:02 <electrohead> oh I'll eat them for sure
33:04 <electrohead> heh
33:28 <Ampera> leave me a chair at your funeral then
33:43 <rust_collector> I am still curious about the tofu thing. I have never tried that
34:27 <Ampera> you ever have fresh mozzarella
34:37 <rust_collector> yea
34:42 <Ampera> tofu is sort of a lighter version of that
34:48 <Ysjoelfir> I had to put a block of tofu to the trash recently :(
34:48 <Ampera> with zero taste
35:05 <Ampera> it'll soak up flavor like a mushroom though
35:06 <Ysjoelfir> but yes, if it tastes like something then its bad. like mine was.
35:10 <rust_collector> well, I think that is the idea, you add whatever flavour you want?
35:11 <electrohead> I never had tofu
35:11 <Ysjoelfir> it was actually sparkling in the mough
35:24 <Ysjoelfir> mouth*
35:30 <electrohead> that's what she said
35:32 <electrohead> lol
35:40 <rust_collector> eew.
35:55 <rust_collector> don't talk about her eating old tofu
39:55 <Ysjoelfir> I have been watching all day long a lecture from robert feranec... with doubled speed.... now I started a video with normal speed and instantly feel like I would need a dicapalink capatzittor and have a hard time not falling asleep. how can one man speak soooooo slow?
40:08 <Ysjoelfir> I love his experience and his way of presenting stuff, but he is just so fucking slow
40:52 <rust_collector> there is stuff you can smoke to become more compatible with that
42:29 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but I doubt I will understand much if I do that
42:36 <hsn> Ola rusty
42:43 <rust_collector> HEY!
42:48 <hsn> Sub
42:55 <hsn> Done work?
42:59 <rust_collector> yea
43:14 <rust_collector> almost time to get ready for tomorrows work
43:20 <hsn> Lol
43:37 <hsn> Fck this work life
43:56 <hsn> I miss university days
43:59 <electrohead> lol
44:30 <rust_collector> I don't. and I never went there either. but yeah, it is almost time to retire
44:43 <hsn> Used to finish study .. go home and prepare for tomorrow's study
45:18 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
45:32 <hsn> rust_collector: in university its better ppl
45:45 <rust_collector> better than what?
46:02 <hsn> Mainly because it doesn't involve work throwing and money
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46:44 <hsn> In work life .. u get lies and all sort of things
46:58 <rust_collector> meh, that is what you get paid for
47:16 <hsn> Lies?
47:42 <rust_collector> yeah. lies, bullshit, general corporate crap
47:57 <hsn> Yes that is suck
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48:27 <hsn> But if u dont know how corporate crap .. u dont get raise
48:34 * Ysjoelfir drinks weissbier
48:36 <hsn> So u have to crap
48:50 <weissbier> hey o/
48:51 <hsn> Ysjoelfir do u agree?
48:58 <hsn> Lots of craps ?
49:13 <rust_collector> well, then you got into the right work
50:15 <Ysjoelfir> huh? crap? where? what did I miss
50:28 <rust_collector> he is making toilets...
50:36 <Ysjoelfir> I know that
50:48 <Ysjoelfir> but I thought he was using artificial poop
50:59 <rust_collector> well, officially....
51:55 <hsn> EEVBlog: hug Ysjoelfir
52:37 <hsn> rust_collector: im getting involved in other project also
52:50 <hsn> Gray water shit system
53:02 <rust_collector> oh, how are things with your new slave?
57:51 <hsn> Lol
57:57 <hsn> He is doing things
58:57 <rust_collector> good good.
59:34 <hsn> But if u ask me
59:45 <hsn> I dont know what he was doing last week
59:58 <hsn> Maybe he was acting to work .. or actually working
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01:23 <rust_collector> as long as he is still there to make your tea and kebabs when you get back, it should be fine
03:47 <rust_collector> so, did you do anything to the wrist band thing?
04:09 <hsn> No
04:11 <hsn> Its out
04:14 <hsn> Kalad
04:17 <hsn> Kalas
04:32 <hsn> I went few days ago to hospital they cut it and let me free
04:37 <hsn> No evwn second test
04:43 <rust_collector> heh
04:50 <hsn> But good thing work ppl didnt want me to go back
04:58 <hsn> Until my wife cut her wrist band
05:06 <hsn> So today she did .. unfortunately
05:22 <hsn> And ill have to take home test
05:28 <hsn> And go back work sunday
07:21 <rust_collector> humm
07:45 <hsn> You see .. covid was good days
07:50 <rust_collector> so, do you know anyone you can grab a positive test from?
08:02 <hsn> With or without coughing/fever .. etc ..
08:22 <MrMobodies> Hello
08:27 <rust_collector> HELLO!
08:27 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
08:34 <hsn> rust_collector: its no good idea maybe they will ask me to stay forever lol
08:37 <MrMobodies> I was a bit worried about the battery in the remote base
08:40 <hsn> And never come back
08:50 <MrMobodies> in the attic and if anything happens
09:00 <MrMobodies> so I opened it and fortunately it can easily be removed
09:07 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/mRr109t.jpg
09:10 <hsn> Hollo there MrMobodies
09:11 <MrMobodies> I don't trust it
09:25 <MrMobodies> the 18650 battery in there or the circuitary
09:32 <rust_collector> what are you talking about?
09:36 <MrMobodies> if it catches fire in the attic that could be really bad
09:39 <MrMobodies> a remove tilt base
09:44 <MrMobodies> remote tile camera base
09:49 <MrMobodies> it came with a battery inside
09:54 <rust_collector> ah
09:55 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/mRr109t.jpg
10:12 <hsn> There is white gum there
10:13 <MrMobodies> unless I am taking around with me I wouldn't trust it on all the time
10:24 <MrMobodies> looks like glue to me
10:24 <hsn> Is it mint flavor
10:39 <MrMobodies> mmint flavor cell
10:55 <MrMobodies> I going to wire up a 5v supply to it in the attic
11:00 <hsn> 18650 mint cells
11:14 <rust_collector> yum
11:15 <MrMobodies> maybe I could feed it to the rats that I catch
11:18 <MrMobodies> in the garden
11:19 <MrMobodies> joe
11:21 <MrMobodies> joke
11:37 <hsn> MrMobodies: shouldnt it be 4.2v
11:46 <MrMobodies> I heard that they can chew through anything
11:47 <rust_collector> maybe you should build a rat powered generator, make them run in a wheel
11:48 <MrMobodies> yes
12:10 <MrMobodies> I got circule them first in the cage trap
12:22 <MrMobodies> 4.2v and 5v output
12:25 <hsn> rust_collector: if rat run ... Keep the cat gate closed
12:37 <MrMobodies> I would like to cage the rat
12:37 <hsn> If he stops .. cat gate opens slowly
12:44 <MrMobodies> domesticate it and turn it into a friend
12:57 <MrMobodies> so it can fetch me things off the floor
13:14 <MrMobodies> get it to clean up and that
13:26 <MrMobodies> doubt that would ever happen
13:32 <rust_collector> they will do that, and pee on everything
13:47 <hsn> Cat gate is more amusing
14:04 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/VgNVHEQ.jpg
14:05 <hsn> And label the cage:: Powered by fear
14:14 <MrMobodies> maybe I could put a cat in the attic for a day
14:23 <MrMobodies> I may get instant results
14:41 <MrMobodies> they might run away or be caught quickly
15:01 <hsn> https://www.atticbahrain.com/
15:10 <MrMobodies> but what I'll do is take it to the field and set them free
15:55 <MrMobodies> nice greek kitchen with Greek food
15:59 <MrMobodies> and nice website
16:31 <rust_collector> I guess you could dip your rats in nitric acid, that should work
16:34 <MrMobodies> I have a joke
16:51 <MrMobodies> I am going to capture these rats with the help of the Chinese Government
17:03 <MrMobodies> Hikvision
17:03 <hsn> DOM PERIGNON this thing
17:04 <hsn> Is
17:05 <MrMobodies> get it
17:14 <hsn> 1127$
17:16 <hsn> The hell
17:30 <MrMobodies> $1127 for?
17:37 <hsn> Wine
17:42 <MrMobodies> oh a wine
17:43 <hsn> In that attic restaurant
18:01 <hsn> DOM PERIGNON
18:01 <hsn> BHD
18:01 <hsn> 425
18:01 <hsn> Champagne, France
18:03 <MrMobodies> they must be doing really well
18:11 <MrMobodies> well charge those prices
18:17 <rust_collector> MrMobodies try looking at that site in a non-modobies-ified browser
18:45 <hsn> Idk but i went to this restaurant once .. with university tutor on his birthday
19:14 <hsn> Its expensive for me .. i guess for him its ok
19:17 <hsn> XD
19:19 <MrMobodies> I wonder how much it cost him?
19:28 <MrMobodies> ooh was that the $1227
19:43 <MrMobodies> oh sorry that's the wine I am confused myself
19:43 <hsn> MrMobodies: he paid for all of us
19:49 <MrMobodies> that's nice
19:56 <MrMobodies> must be a special moment
20:26 <hsn> MrMobodies: i feel bad we bought him cake from our regular places
20:37 <hsn> That probably cost like 30$
20:58 <hsn> And he paid for the dinner maybe 300$
21:00 <MrMobodies> I see you brought him stuff and he turns up with something superior
21:22 <MrMobodies> $300 each for everyone?
21:27 <MrMobodies> *or sorry
21:29 <hsn> Every one
21:36 <MrMobodies> that's not too bad
21:40 <MrMobodies> or a special occasion
21:42 <rust_collector> that looks very much like the kind of place I can not go to
22:03 <rust_collector> but, maybe
22:21 <MrMobodies> I look at those cakes
22:30 <MrMobodies> and it makes me want to stuff myself silly
22:39 <MrMobodies> the addiction is just there
22:50 <hsn> MrMobodies: the thing .. i buy kebabs and shwarmas from places here that cost 6$ an much more delicious food ..
23:00 <MrMobodies> https://assets.website-files.com/5e2fefedd4837e8d884660d4/5e308c25ae851201a29e1cad_DSC00102.jpg
23:07 <MrMobodies> aaah
23:16 <MrMobodies> well I waiting for some kebab today
23:22 <MrMobodies> I have them cut the meat thick
23:29 <MrMobodies> so it doesn't curl up
23:33 <hsn> My man
23:43 <MrMobodies> when they cut them too thin I don't it nice
24:03 <MrMobodies> mind you it is a pick and mix
24:14 <MrMobodies> there are cheap kebabs that sells a lot for little
24:19 <MrMobodies> but I can taste glue in there
24:36 <MrMobodies> and the expensive ones that I can't taste much grease or glue but more expensive
25:14 <MrMobodies> Hsn: My man? a bit confused
25:36 <MrMobodies> is it some sort of expression?
25:47 <hsn> MrMobodies: yes
26:05 <MrMobodies> dictionary "a patronizing form of address to a man."
26:08 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/5hLE8GKyFvbck2fK9
26:13 <MrMobodies> I don't see what is patronising
26:31 <MrMobodies> then I don't understand expressions I have a language/communication disorder
26:52 <rust_collector> moms ex used to say oeioohwaiwaa
26:58 <MrMobodies> and nothing is easy for me not even the easy stuff
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27:42 <MrMobodies> once I understand stuff I become very happy and content for a while
28:17 <MrMobodies> except for being deceived.
29:21 <MrMobodies> I noticed when I ask people to explain a word and sometimes when they explain the use the very word that they can trying to explain in the explanation
29:28 <MrMobodies> it's like a blank card to me
29:53 <MrMobodies> anyway I think my kebab is here
30:13 <rust_collector> it is running around in your attic
31:56 <rust_collector> hsn is that place trying to be greek, or are they trying to be "fine"
32:31 <hsn> rust_collector, i think its good greek restuarant .. the tutor is from there and he likes it
34:10 <rust_collector> some places makes every dish perfect, and nice and stuff, but... some times, I still prefer shitty places that slap your (still good) food on a plate and done. no fancy anything
34:40 <rust_collector> I also tend to slightly hate fancy "homemade" ice cream
40:43 <rust_collector> we do have a sloppy greek place in town. it is great.
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01:03 <hsn> rust_collector, food is food .. its not going to go nice inside stomach
01:13 <hsn> put it in the damn plate and eat :P
02:30 <rust_collector> it just annoys me that some places spend too much energy on making it look pretty, and have an artsy line of sauce around a potato
03:34 <brayden> can thank all the TV chefs grading on presentation for that
04:51 <rust_collector> I also think that I am not made for fancy foods. I like regular stuff, not fancy things. fancy food just tastes expensive
05:43 <hsn> rust_collector, thats the correct food attitude.. to enjoy food not look
06:04 <rust_collector> meh, I am going to chew it to gloop anyway
08:21 <brayden> man when you can get work to pay for a good meal
08:25 <brayden> that's the best taste of all
09:34 <rust_collector> yeah, I remember that happening a long time ago. now we just get crap pizza, because they found a pizza place that agreed to deliver, lol
20:25 <hsn> rust_collector, u have no food delivering company ? that sucks profit from all restuarants?
20:35 <hsn> in the country
21:40 <rust_collector> well, work is a bit into the woods. these people agreed to deliver, because we order 40-50 pizzas.
22:09 <rust_collector> if you are closer to town, you can have anything delivered
25:14 <rust_collector> well, you could just tell a taxi to deliver, I guess
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34:16 <Ysjoelfir> eh? pizza?
34:40 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, its not Lørdag. No Pizza today!
34:52 <rust_collector> eeh, the box says pizza. i am not sure if it is true.
35:05 <rust_collector> but you are right, no pizza today
35:30 <rust_collector> only when we have "meetings" at work
36:24 <Ysjoelfir> like... 20 drivers waiting to be loaded?
36:49 <rust_collector> oh, there is a pizza/kebab/etc. place down by the kiwi... neighbor says they are getting better at their pizza making. i tried it when they just started, and it was pretty horrible.
37:58 <Ysjoelfir> well... you guys have more experience with fish than pizza I suppose
38:19 <rust_collector> like, whoever bothered to go to a "meeting" if they did not have food, no one would come ever. A couple of years ago, they had to ship us all on the boat to denmark, to make at least some people bother
38:39 <Ysjoelfir> lol
57:18 <Seng> I need a sanity check. I have two JK-FFs
57:28 <Seng> ..setup like the following https://circuitdigest.com/sites/default/files/projectimage_tut/Asynchronous-Counter.png
58:15 <Seng> everytime I send a clock signal (switch-button-press) I go to the next state. Except I see 00, 11, 01, 10.
59:11 <Seng> Which makes sense. When Q0 goes high, it's a clock pulse to the second FF which obviously sets Q1 high.
59:40 <Seng> But there are *so* many diagrams with this config. They can't all be wrong, can they?
03:24 <Seng> Connecting Q' from FF1 to FF2's clock gives me the desired behaviour.
03:27 <T3sl4> of course they're all wrong. they show JKs
03:53 <Seng> Is this where you say "jk" and we all laugh?
04:08 <T3sl4> that's a pun not intended, oddly
04:35 <T3sl4> but seriously, JKs are... so 70s, i guess? they're very much out of style as far as i know
04:48 <Ampera> JFK's are so 60's
04:59 * T3sl4 grassy knolls Ampera
05:08 * Ampera rock and rolls T3sl4 
05:17 <T3sl4> not that there's anything strictly wrong with them, just that D's are more general and available in all synthesis tools
05:28 * T3sl4 rolling rocks Ampera
05:51 <Seng> Can a D-type be used as a toggle?
05:57 <T3sl4> strap D = /Q
06:17 <T3sl4> or buy a whole chip of em, "ripple counter"
07:17 <T3sl4> as for the sequence you see, iunno, i guess JK is falling edge triggered? i forget
07:22 <Seng> I have a few of them, but I wanted the experience of making something myself :))
07:31 <T3sl4> seems it's inverting so it produces the inverse sequence
07:46 <Seng> *should* be rising edge triggered, which seems correct
07:59 <Seng> according to my breadboard
10:03 <Seng> thanks for the battery advice the other day, btw. I ended op deciding with a fixed power supply after looking at current usage of my final project..
10:27 <T3sl4> yay
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13:39 <rust_collector> BOOM!
14:48 <Kuschelpony> woof
15:15 <rust_collector> that does not seem like your style?
15:46 <T3sl4> it's like the bunny on the other eevblob that meows
15:48 <Kuschelpony> confusion
17:05 <rust_collector> now I want a cow that makes dolphin sounds
17:44 <rust_collector> that is, if flipper used actual dolphin sounds... maybe it was just a lie.
18:40 <rust_collector> for all I know, it was filmed in a secret studio on the moon
20:50 <T3sl4> and we all know the moon doesn't exist, it's some stupid hollywood set
21:05 <rust_collector> in india
21:08 <T3sl4> a location set, granted https://i.imgur.com/5rCsCXA.jpg
22:57 <electrohead> T3sl4: lol
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42:54 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/HappyWoofGifs/comments/megl58/unlikely_friendship/
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02:20 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XStBOz5MwfI
07:02 <rust_collector> and that is all for tonight. go do something else
09:28 <electrohead> rust_collector: you need more metal in your life
09:30 <electrohead> lol
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29:06 <MrMobodies> I think I am finished now with the camera
29:09 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/dJKDAFc
29:29 <MrMobodies> all tied down and made sure the cables run smoothly when rotating all the way
30:06 <MrMobodies> and away from the ground to keep the rats from nibbling it
30:22 <MrMobodies> that tripod cost me £5 from the yard sale
30:48 <MrMobodies> thought it was a better choice than the little stand and I can move it around with everything attached to it
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17:48 <therealazzurro> yay me, my BM786 is about to arrive tomorrow!
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36:48 <therealazzurro> jeez dave HAS to replace his microinverters. that would bother the shit out of me
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01:34 <electrohead> o/
01:41 * electrohead offers ice cream
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19:06 * T3sl4 gloops electrohead
19:22 * electrohead gloops
19:28 <T3sl4> mmm, ice creamy
20:18 <T3sl4> i should go get some, i should go get several things actually as groceries are beginning to run low
21:27 <T3sl4> i might also go make a whisky sour
21:41 <electrohead> make me one, too
21:46 <electrohead> that sounds good, actually
22:35 * T3sl4 makes electrohead a https://imgur.com/gallery/B9JuD
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25:32 <electrohead> a buddhist monk?
25:33 <electrohead> lol
25:46 * electrohead is a monk, now
30:11 <T3sl4> a "one with everything"
31:12 <T3sl4> steve30: https://imgur.com/gallery/xCyvGAa
34:49 <electrohead> :p
34:53 <therealazzurro> oh boy I'm scared of sending this layout to JLCPCB https://imgur.com/a/ntyaQdW
35:07 <electrohead> awe
35:09 <electrohead> so cute
35:33 <therealazzurro> every single time i find something I forgot to change after the pcb has gone to production
36:45 <electrohead> therealazzurro: what is it?
37:00 <T3sl4> scared of what? you didn't change anything at all
37:03 <T3sl4> :P
37:09 <therealazzurro> lab power supply :D
37:19 <therealazzurro> yes i did change some things
37:37 <therealazzurro> whoa i remember you telling me i should just make one big ground plane
37:54 <therealazzurro> see, already something i had forgotten lol
38:08 <T3sl4> i mean it's only the first thing i notice :P
39:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Hungary is smart. Australia is dumb. We have double the gold reserves in the ground than any other country. https://t.co/PrQdeX3eva :Which was quoting: WanderingWolf-: Hungary's gold holdings ! Stacking gold instead of money printing. I now understand why EU criticize Hungry by every opportunity. #gold #silversqueeze https://t.co/A05pHkWeDT
39:38 <therealazzurro> i moved some components here and there, different (0.2R) shunt, added a reset pin to the uart pin header, increased clearance to a mains trace, moved an mlcc closer to where it belongs, inserted a connector for a thermal fuse which i had forgotten the last time
39:55 <therealazzurro> kelvin connection to the shunt
40:03 <therealazzurro> high voltage warnings
40:08 <therealazzurro> small things
41:35 <electrohead> oh nice :D
41:54 <electrohead> to be remotely controlled?
42:05 <therealazzurro> huh
43:10 <electrohead> I spot a pinout on the bottom for the TTL serial lines
43:58 <electrohead> you planning on making it to be remotely controlled? ie, ttl-usb, an esp8266, etc?
44:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: OdyseeLeaks: Looks like there's a roku app that odysee hasn't told us about. When did dev start & when was Odysee gonna tell the people? @OdyseeTeam https://t.co/x7QvxOds6S
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45:19 <therealazzurro> ah sorry no that just for programming for people who don't have an isp programmer. but it is all open source so everyone can knock themselves out on what they'll do with that header
46:20 <electrohead> ahh, cool
46:36 <electrohead> normally when I spot a header like that, my first thought is "hook up an esp8266 to it!"
46:38 <electrohead> lol
47:43 <therealazzurro> firmware is very early stage. you can set voltage and current, let it auto-calibrate out for the onboard minimal load and a self test during start up which checks whether the measured adc voltages are plausible to what the DAC is being set to during the test
48:08 <therealazzurro> and of course it shows the set and read voltage and current and wattage as well as whether it is in cc or cv mode
48:16 <therealazzurro> that's all working already
48:40 <therealazzurro> haha yes you can hook it up to an esp8266 xD
49:09 <therealazzurro> firmware is completely non-blocking, no nasty delays so it would even be reasonably responsive
49:18 <electrohead> <-- likes to automate things
49:34 <therealazzurro> and i have chosen the atmega1284p for its vast amount of ram and rom so people can go crazy on the firmware
49:41 <therealazzurro> haha me too
49:44 <electrohead> nice choice :)
49:52 <therealazzurro> thanks :)
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51:42 <electrohead> EEVBlog: beer
51:48 <electrohead> guh
53:35 <therealmobileazzurro> EEVBlog: water
01:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: You mean those authoritative sources that are infamous for getting things wrong and/or pushing an agenda? LOL. OK. https://t.co/d7zAMoLplF :Which was quoting: Reclaim The Net: YouTube CEO: It’s easy to “make up content and post it from your basement” so we boost “authoritative sources” https://t.co/SOzNWvwAwm
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11:35 <T3sl4> EEVBlog: irish coffee electrohead
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15:54 <poem> anyone?
16:07 <electrohead> ?
16:20 <T3sl4> hi
16:27 <electrohead> ih
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17:10 <poem> anyone like dj ?
17:16 <electrohead> poem: hrmm?
17:57 <Ampera> mmm, dick jockeying is my favorite
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20:52 <electrohead> lol
21:04 <poem> are you adult?
21:20 <Ampera> depends on your definition of adult
22:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I just got 1 month's credit from @GorillaServers So yep, they implemented the 30 day clause, otherwise it would have cost them 1 years credit.
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22:26 <poem> i am from china, anyone interested to make a friend?
22:37 <Ampera> they can make those now?
22:39 <Ampera> wow
22:48 <Ampera> I'll order 20
24:03 <poem> wish to exchange dj music with u guys
24:46 <Ampera> That's nice, it's important for everyone to have hopes and dreams.
25:08 <T3sl4> why not make friends in xinjiang? i hear there are millions there
25:16 <Ampera> lol gdi
25:56 <poem> have never been to xinjiang
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28:03 <Halcyon> Morning all
28:18 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
28:34 <Halcyon> :)
28:34 <electrohead> o/
28:36 <Halcyon> Aww
28:39 <Halcyon> Hey guys
30:16 * Ampera gleefully licks Halcyon 
30:20 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
30:53 <Ampera> the moment I say anything he vanishes
30:58 <Halcyon> :D
30:58 <Ampera> it's almost like he doesn't like me very much
31:02 <Halcyon> I'm going OK
31:06 <Halcyon> I do like you
31:10 <Ampera> weirdo
31:15 <Halcyon> Yeh well
31:23 <Ampera> I went to your favorite restaurant today
31:33 <Halcyon> Oh?
31:36 <Ampera> outback steakhouse
31:47 <Halcyon> Outback steakhouse sucks
31:50 <Ampera> hahaha
31:51 <electrohead> lol
31:53 <Halcyon> I mean it's OKKKKKK
31:55 <Ampera> they weren't bad
32:04 <Halcyon> But not great by any means
32:13 <Ampera> a bit expensive, but the food was good for what's available around here
32:17 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/lyugKUc.jpg
32:29 <Halcyon> https://kingsleyssydney.com.au/
32:32 <Halcyon> That's my favourite
32:33 <Halcyon> :)
32:53 <Ampera> we don't have high end places like that
33:02 <Ampera> outback's about as high end as it gets around here
33:10 <Halcyon> Obviously it's a very occasional place :P
33:30 <Halcyon> I'll buy you a Tomahawk steak when you come here
33:35 <Ampera> My main stress whenever I go to a new restaurant is being able to find something I can actually eat
33:45 <Ampera> vegetables are everywhere and I cannae eat them
33:58 <Halcyon> Well this is where you would like Kingsleys, the mains don't come with anything at all
34:03 <Halcyon> You add the sides to it
34:27 <Ampera> I also went to my local asian supermarket
34:34 <Ampera> I'm gonna show you a picture of the cart I had
34:46 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635631712113786890/829750122224025620/20210408_113411.jpg
34:58 <Halcyon> Hahaha yum
35:06 <Ampera> I did get electrohead his noodles finally
35:15 <Ampera> will send those out to him as soon as I get around to it
35:17 <Halcyon> I would be very tempted to just keep trying them one by one until I was stuffed
35:18 <T3sl4> i just died from sodium overdose
35:22 <T3sl4> looking at that cart
35:27 <Halcyon> BRB, going to make a bagel
35:51 <Ampera> it's got a lot of my favorites in there
35:57 <Ampera> and a few I've never tried
36:34 <Halcyon> Back, it's toasting
36:43 <Ampera> you are weird
36:55 <Halcyon> What?
37:00 <Halcyon> I don't like it cold and lifeless
37:09 <Ampera> you like me cold and lifeless
37:14 <Halcyon> I like the cut side toasted
37:24 <Halcyon> That's because you'd be a starfish in bed :P
37:28 <Ampera> not sure if you like me cut, but I can give it a try
37:34 <Ampera> what does that even mean
37:37 <electrohead> lmfao
37:41 <electrohead> fucking goofballs
37:43 <electrohead> :p
37:51 <Halcyon> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Starfish
38:06 <Halcyon> Also, I thought you already were circumsized Ampera, being 'Merican and all
38:12 <Ampera> wha
38:19 <Ampera> what's so american about circumcision
38:30 <Halcyon> You guys do it all the time, like it's some kind of game
39:17 <Ampera> it's seen more as a jewish thing here
39:21 <Ampera> they're mainly the ones who do it
39:46 <Ampera> some christians do, but it's not that common among them afaik
39:52 <Ampera> I wouldn't know, I'm not a cultmonger
40:10 <Halcyon> Mmmmm poppy seeds
40:23 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/sY4hAtB.jpg
40:38 <Ampera> I don't recall ever being loved
40:45 <Halcyon> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/circumcision_2013/circumcision_2013.htm
40:48 <Ampera> mostly it's just text on the screen telling me I'm stupid
40:49 <T3sl4> that's the point
41:30 <Ampera> honestly it's so small if it were circumcized I'd probably lose half of it
41:56 <Halcyon> You're German, it should be largeish
42:09 <Ampera> the french half of me fucked it up
42:33 <Halcyon> The French, always fucking things up
43:02 <Halcyon> Ohh my legally downloaded movie is almost finished :)
43:29 <Ampera> the one and only sane thing about australia
43:38 <Halcyon> Heh
45:51 <Halcyon> Is there anyone here that can read Russian?
46:01 <Ampera> me
46:06 <Halcyon> I'm being serious
46:12 <Ampera> I can read it, just can't understand it
46:17 <Ampera> but I know the alphabet
46:17 <Halcyon> Oh FFS
46:22 <Halcyon> That doesn't help me
46:26 <Ampera> what do you need
47:01 <Halcyon> I need to ebay a thing and everything is Russian. I have no idea what is the name and which part of the address is which
47:07 <Halcyon> I need it for the customs form
47:38 <Ampera> link me
47:50 <Ampera> or pm me
47:51 <Ampera> whatever
47:52 <Halcyon> I'll see if I can copy/paste in a PM
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43:11 <gnif> o/
43:18 <Ampera> top of the night, gnif
43:24 <Ampera> how are you doing
43:36 <gnif> relaxed.... finally enjoying life :D
43:41 <gnif> and you?
43:47 <Ampera> finally enjoying life?
43:56 <Ampera> uh, waiting for the day I can enjoy life I guess
44:12 <gnif> well more so then when servers are down...
44:14 <Ampera> how are the servers doing
44:31 <gnif> https://www.eevblog.com - 200 OK
44:36 <gnif> :)
44:45 <Ampera> yes, that tells me everything I could ever want to know
44:46 <Ampera> thank you
44:51 <gnif> hahhaa
44:57 <gnif> still in a degraded state
45:03 <Ampera> don'
45:04 <Halcyon> Welcome back gnif, I thought you'd left
45:09 <Ampera> t worry, I'm still in a degraded state too
45:16 <Ampera> er
45:17 <gnif> looks like the private network wont be back for a few days
45:20 <Ampera> perhaps that means you should worry
45:31 <gnif> Halcyon, left for hollidays
45:57 <Halcyon> Oh, where did you go?
46:01 <Ampera> I'm not going to work tomorrow
46:14 <gnif> My wife kindly drove us down to Wollongong while I sat on my laptop and brought the server back up :)
46:20 <Halcyon> Oh nice
46:35 <Ampera> I think you might be the first australian I've met who wasn't gay
46:41 <Halcyon> I forget if you had one or two kids but did she/they go with you?
46:52 <Halcyon> How many others do you know Ampera?
47:08 <Ampera> you, DogWomble, uh
47:08 <gnif> I have one, a daughter of 1
47:11 <gnif> *15
47:13 <Ampera> that's about it
48:02 <Halcyon> Is she into the geek stuff like you?
48:27 <Ampera> I thought you said gnif lives right up the street from you, how would you not know that
49:46 <Halcyon> Because we don't hang out
50:03 <Ampera> ain't you never heard of no southern hospitality?
50:06 <gnif> a bit, she is a nerd, but not at the level I am at
50:06 <Ampera> buh
50:16 <gnif> sorry, just stuck my head in, got to go again
50:20 <gnif> will get back on later
50:23 <Ampera> good night
50:26 <gnif> gn
50:26 <Ampera> enjoy your vacation
50:29 <gnif> thanks
50:48 <Halcyon> Have fun gnif
50:52 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YdHqxTcBfI
50:54 <Ampera> this guy's really good
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52:11 <Halcyon> I have a hankering for some ramen again
52:28 <Ampera> come on over
52:32 <Ampera> I bought a pack or two today
52:54 <Halcyon> I wish I could just come on over
52:58 <Halcyon> That would be the coolest
53:10 <electrohead> you could visit both of us :P
53:19 <Halcyon> Yep, of vice versa
53:30 <Halcyon> Could have a slumber party like the giant girl that Ampera is
53:31 <Halcyon> :P
53:37 <electrohead> lol
53:57 <Ampera> the moment you said that I took one of my hormone pills
54:16 * Ampera beats the shit out of Halcyon with a pillowcase filled with lead shot
54:24 <Halcyon> :P
54:27 <Halcyon> Love you
54:32 <Ampera> I thought you were gay
54:53 <Halcyon> You can still love someone
55:02 <Halcyon> Like electrohead loves me but he's a filthy straighty :P
55:28 <electrohead> hahaha
55:36 <Ampera> Nobody's loved me for a long time
55:37 <Ampera> possibly ever
55:39 <Ampera> so I wouldn't know
56:28 <Halcyon> Should I do ramen, or a glass of wine...
56:32 * electrohead loves Ampera's face
56:34 <Halcyon> Decisions
56:37 <electrohead> Halcyon: both?
56:41 <Halcyon> Hmm
56:47 <Ampera> ramen
56:49 <Ampera> alcohol is a sin
56:52 <Ampera> you fucking demon
56:58 <Halcyon> I don't fucking care :P
57:10 <Ampera> of course you don't, you godless cretin
57:17 <Halcyon> What's a god?
57:22 <Ampera> me
57:32 <Ampera> I created the universe, and everything in it
57:34 <Ampera> last thursday
57:37 <steve30> Halcyon, I got a box of Sony 200GB data cartridges from australia yesterday
57:49 <Ampera> ooo
59:06 <Halcyon> Oooh :)
59:21 <Halcyon> Was there anything else in the box? :P
59:26 <Ampera> A DICK
59:33 <Ampera> hopefully
59:33 <Halcyon> Spotted dick?
59:44 * Ampera smears gentleman's relish all over Halcyon
59:45 <Ampera> 's toast
00:07 <steve30> I haven't opened it yet. But it seems a bit small to contain hunks.
00:26 <steve30> I'm going to try a live unboxing on youtube i think
00:38 <Ampera> Happy friday
00:44 * Ampera sneezes
00:49 * Ampera sneezes again, for good measure
01:09 <Ampera> I think I'm allergic to the day line
01:17 <Halcyon> There will be a thing inside you need to blur out remember Steve
01:49 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you prefer jelly or jam
01:54 <Halcyon> Jam
01:58 <Ampera> good
02:05 <Halcyon> Jelly is a kids desert
02:17 <Ampera> it's far harder to jelly something in someone's ass
02:26 <Halcyon> This is true
02:28 <steve30> people seem to like unboxing videos :)
02:33 <Ampera> I forgot
02:41 <Ampera> over there, jelly == gelatin
02:46 <Ampera> whereas it's not the case here
02:51 <Halcyon> steve30, yep, as long as I'm not identified nor where I work :)
02:55 <Ampera> jelly and jam are mostly synonymous
03:05 <Ampera> there's a difference, I think one is cooled without the skins
03:12 <Ampera> mmm, skins
03:20 <Ampera> *cooked
03:23 <Halcyon> Jelly and Jam are completely different things
03:27 <Ampera> nope
03:29 <Halcyon> Yep
03:35 <Ampera> not in the US
03:48 <Ampera> jelly != gelatin
03:57 <Halcyon> Since when do we listen to the opinion of the US? You guys do most things backwards
03:58 <Ampera> it's a fruit spread just like jam
04:22 <Ampera> I mean, do you want any of our vaccines?
04:25 <Halcyon> Jelly here is what you would call Jell-o
04:34 <Ampera> no I would not
04:37 <Ampera> because Jell-o is a brand
04:40 <Halcyon> I've already got your vaccine, so thanks for that, but we also make them here :P
04:55 <Ampera> I call it gelatin
05:02 <Halcyon> To us, this is jellyhttps://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/jelly-on-plate-isolated-white-260nw-1324009424.jpg
05:07 <Halcyon> https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/jelly-on-plate-isolated-white-260nw-1324009424.jpg
05:11 <Ampera> that's gelatin
05:14 <Halcyon> Gelatin is just a part of jelly
05:19 <Halcyon> As in the ingredient
05:22 <Ampera> I'm aware
05:28 <Ampera> but here it also refers to the desert
05:41 <Halcyon> See, this is why you're strange
05:43 <Ampera> since, well, it's mostly gelatin
05:51 <Ampera> it's just flavored gelatin
05:59 <Ampera> so stop horsing around before I render you into gelatin
06:26 <Halcyon> Where as jams don't (always) contain gelatin
06:36 <Ampera> well jam isn't a desert
06:36 <Halcyon> They oten use pectin
06:38 <Ampera> whereas gelatin is
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06:44 <Ampera> jam is a breakfast food
06:45 <Ampera> as is jelly
06:48 <Ampera> or preserves
06:58 <Ampera> mmm, preserves
07:00 <Halcyon> Mostly breakfast yes, but you can have jams in cakes too
07:12 <Halcyon> Or used as a glaze for meats
07:16 <Ampera> ew
07:32 <Ampera> remind me not to eat the food when I come there
07:33 <Halcyon> What do you mean ew?
07:39 <Ampera> if you have such terrible ideas like that
07:46 <Halcyon> Ham with a plum or apricot glaze is delicious
07:54 <Halcyon> https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/baked-ham-plum-glaze/38f5919b-9a30-4ae8-9595-791d18cf60ae
08:16 <Ampera> recipes are for the woefully uncreative
09:57 * Halcyon slaps Ampera with a hock of ham
10:21 * Ampera sucks on Halcyon's cock of man
10:35 <Ampera> ew
10:36 <Ampera> tastes like fish
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10:45 <Halcyon> Lies
10:50 <Halcyon> Sladerous lies!
10:54 <Ampera> my mouth has a yeast infection now
11:36 <Halcyon> Hahah
11:43 <Halcyon> You're a bitch
11:56 <Ampera> the politically correct term is slut
11:57 <Ampera> but ok
12:17 <Halcyon> In order to be a slut, you actually have to engage in sexual acts
12:23 <Ampera> damn
12:45 <Halcyon> Also, I have a crap ton of DD3 RAM, does anyone need?
12:53 <Ampera> is it ECC RDIMM?
13:22 <Halcyon> It's a mixed bag of stuff
13:25 <Halcyon> I haven't gone through it
13:45 <Ampera> if you have a lot of high-ish capacity RDIMMs, I'm potentially going to be buying a quad socket server that could use a bunch of it
14:02 <AlfBaz> How about a crap ton of lga1150 mother boards :(
14:03 <Halcyon> One of the part numbers I randomly chose is HYS72T256920HFA-3S-B
14:38 <Ampera> looks like DDR2
14:53 <Ampera> 4x2GB
14:54 <Halcyon> Yeh there will be DDR2 in there as well
15:07 <Ampera> nah, it'd be cheaper just to buy RAM off ebay
15:14 <Ampera> /if/ I end up buying the server
15:28 <Ampera> waiting for word from the seller before I spring on it
24:08 <Halcyon> I get my solar + batteries installed next Monday
24:09 <Halcyon> Weee
24:28 <steve30> ooh
24:36 <steve30> What did you get?
25:39 <Halcyon> I'm getting an additional 5kw solar system to add to my existing 4.8kw array
25:49 <Halcyon> Plus a 12.5 (?) kw battery system
26:04 <steve30> You make my 2.7kW system sound small
27:17 <electrohead> I'm off to bed, goodnight o/
27:27 * steve30 tucks electrohead in
27:41 <Halcyon> Night mate
27:45 <electrohead> g'night
30:07 <Halcyon> So Steve, when do we get to see this unboxing?
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31:23 <steve30> Maybe when there's some daylight so the camera can see :)
31:34 <Halcyon> Turn on some lights? :P
34:32 <steve30> i really should buy/make some video lights
38:56 * steve30 wants another coffee
41:11 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAbeBXAYztk
41:15 <Halcyon> I want breakfast food now
53:19 <AlfBaz> Makes you laugh and be hungry, thanks for that
53:28 <Halcyon> He has an interesting style
53:35 <Halcyon> But I do like the recipe idea
54:57 <Halcyon> Mayo and white truffle oil is an interesting one. Ill have to give it a go
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28:44 <Halcyon> Might do some vintage computing stuff
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19:24 <steve30> Halcyon, are you ready for some live video?
33:50 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EksWHbKzlM
34:37 <Halcyon> Yessum
34:53 <Halcyon> Do you have other mail to open too?
35:26 <steve30> unfortunately not, but i might be able to find something to chat about if anyone wants to ask questions in the chat
39:30 <Halcyon> YAY! Steve is going live
39:31 <Halcyon> :D
39:44 <steve30> should be black video atm
39:48 <Halcyon> Yessum
39:54 <Halcyon> Do you have a cheesy 90's intro?
39:56 <Halcyon> :P
41:10 <Halcyon> Audio works well
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01:39 <Halcyon> What's the Vaceline for Steve? ;-)
01:46 <MrMobodies> Microsoft has decided to add more animations to parts of their website
02:19 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/Js0g3hN.jpg
02:33 <Halcyon> Heh
02:42 <MrMobodies> I made 1000 lines
02:49 <MrMobodies> when it turned out to be this single element: ##._3sbTTGfWsUjDKK7cBgXzGL
02:55 <MrMobodies> One element cause all that
03:11 <MrMobodies> after page loads of box select the lines flash and animate
03:15 <MrMobodies> and that annoys me
03:18 <MrMobodies> it is repetitive
03:45 <Halcyon> I like it Steve, you did well
03:51 <MrMobodies> I am going to keep the other elements, the 1000 graidents and shimline stuff
03:52 * steve30 nibbles on yummy chocolate
03:53 <MrMobodies> https://pastebin.com/sCrFH1Rc
04:08 <MrMobodies> it might appear elsewhere
04:38 <Halcyon> They look like they might have got a little melty in the post
04:38 <steve30> Halcyon, how was the video quality?
04:39 <MrMobodies> so pleased it's gone
04:45 <Halcyon> Yeh perfectly fine
04:54 <MrMobodies> chocolates
05:01 <Halcyon> As good as it's going to get for SD
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05:11 <MrMobodies> I already ate my easter egg
05:16 <MrMobodies> it was a green and blacks
05:40 <brayden> oh dear
05:40 <steve30> Its an HD camera but I'm not sure whether I'd be able to encode it in real time in HD. Need to test it at some point.
05:41 <MrMobodies> oh sorry I think I misread something
05:42 <Halcyon> I sent Steve Aussie chocolate biscuits in the post
05:51 <MrMobodies> lovelly
05:54 <brayden> first reporte casualty from the webnx fire on WHT now
05:58 <Halcyon> Should be able to via firewire steve
05:59 <brayden> guy lost his disks and his backups were broken for a month
06:12 <brayden> rip
06:28 <MrMobodies> no offsite backups?
06:29 <Halcyon> This is why everyone should test their backsup :P
06:30 <MrMobodies> that's terrible
06:32 <Halcyon> backups
06:32 <brayden> just borked
06:47 <MrMobodies> resiliance is a must at times like these
07:02 <brayden> yeah and offsite is pretty cheap unless you're shovelling insane amounts of data
07:40 <MrMobodies> I spoke to someone who runs a telecoms business last year down the pub
07:54 <MrMobodies> and they get this sitation in a firm that gets taken over by different managers
08:09 <MrMobodies> one says "scrap the whole system it's got to be cloud based"
08:14 <brayden> my last backblaze bill was $11 USD and I have about 2TB of backup blobs in there
08:30 <MrMobodies> a year later different manager comes in and says "no all got to come down on and install and onsite solution"
08:58 <MrMobodies> but most don't want both
09:39 <MrMobodies> what could go wrong with and onsite and cloud based (as a backup) phone system
10:15 <MrMobodies> I suppose that is devastating to loose your things
10:32 <MrMobodies> borked?
10:58 <MrMobodies> oh broken
11:23 <MrMobodies> so what he thought was backup turned out to be nothing
11:27 <steve30> 2 people were watching the video for its duration. I'm wondering who the other person was
12:24 <Halcyon> Maybe a stalker of yours? There was a nice crotch shot for a short moment there :P
13:15 <brayden> MrMobodies, my last place was full cloud shit. my issue is when the cloud religion decides to push basic shit to the cloud that's better handled on prem
13:29 <brayden> big ass file servers being one. like no issue with having a replica in the cloud but 60 ms to access a file server over a 100 mbps express route.. geez
13:36 <Halcyon> There needs to be a healthy mixture
13:42 <brayden> vs 10 gbps and ~1ms latency if using the datacentre we already have space leased in
13:46 <Halcyon> For the most part, having an on-prem mail server is a waste these days
14:08 <Halcyon> At least for small to medium size businesses
14:32 <brayden> yeah o365 is a no brainer
14:39 <steve30> I was waiting for Halcyon to comment on my use of the word 'dollaridoos'
14:49 <Halcyon> Haha I noticed that too :P
16:12 <steve30> Sound quality is good except for a bit of background hum
16:27 <Halcyon> Not noticible.
16:36 <steve30> i notice it
16:42 <Halcyon> Fussy :P
16:51 <steve30> I used my new Rode Lavalier Go
17:01 <Halcyon> Yeh it sounded good
17:05 <steve30> Also it seems a tad out of sync with the video
17:17 <Halcyon> That could be ffmpeg
17:44 <Halcyon> If you use firewire next time, not only will your get HD, but you'll get the timecode signal and everything will be synced up nicely
17:46 <therealazzurro> morning
17:51 <Halcyon> Morning therealazzurro
18:21 <steve30> ffmpeg sends the video into a V4L2 loopback device, and sends the audio into an ALSA loopback device, both of which are then picked up by OBS
18:41 <MrMobodies> aaah I remembered Dave in hos solar panel video
18:47 <MrMobodies> they did this symbol in the sky
18:51 <steve30> I could just have ffmpeg send the stream to youtube itself which would probably work better but I already had the above set up
18:57 <MrMobodies> and he called it a name
19:16 <MrMobodies> propaganda
19:36 <MrMobodies> Brayden: cloud religion I mean
19:40 <steve30> Halcyon, I can also do analogue HD capture, the capture card has component input and supports up to 1080i
20:10 <MrMobodies> one day I the basic controls will be taken away from me, that's my worry
20:30 <brayden> already is getting that way
20:40 <brayden> big time with something like microsoft exchange
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22:08 <therealazzurro> cloud can f* off, at least in the means of hosted services which I can't take and move them to another provider as-is
22:21 <gnif> yeah, screw the cloud!
22:25 <gnif> o/ all
22:29 <Halcyon> Ahh yeh component does
22:30 <therealazzurro> hey gnif
22:46 <Halcyon> Weather turned a bit shit gnif ?
23:09 <brayden> haha you will be a slave to microsoft and you will like it therealazzurro!
23:12 <gnif> not bad really... just at my brother in laws and there is not much going on here
23:26 <therealazzurro> i'd rather move to some dumb imap server solution than move my exchange to the cloud
23:28 <brayden> gnif, talking about webnx earlier, someone on WHT reported their RAID is unrecoverable and his backups have been dead for a month
23:38 <gnif> ouch!
23:56 <therealazzurro> how can backups be dead for a month
24:00 <brayden> shrug
24:02 <gnif> yeah, I take backups pretty seriously, there is no excuse these days to have at the minimum incrementals
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25:04 <gnif> many people omit backups though when they run into issues with platforms such as cPanel which practically take the server down while it dumps the database.
25:14 <Halcyon> I need to update my backup solution
25:20 <Halcyon> LTO2 tapes are getting a bit small :P
25:23 <brayden> haha
25:37 <therealazzurro> daily backups here, of everything. only to disk, though.
25:46 <brayden> my home VMs are backed up on LTO 4 tapes
25:52 <brayden> staged on a HDD and then copied to the tapes
26:00 <gnif> backs to disk are fine, provided they are in another location, and you have more then one copy
26:21 <therealazzurro> yes, they are spread to 2 other locations every day
26:26 <brayden> yeah the remote stuff is kept on disk then offloaded to backblaze B2
26:34 <therealazzurro> and the main backup repo is offline during off-backup hours
26:41 <brayden> nice
26:45 <therealazzurro> that's my airgap
26:54 <brayden> dell was going on about that at my last place
27:03 <brayden> some thing where you can set a backup window and when it's not in there the appliance shuts its NIC down
27:06 <gnif> As I do management for multiple clients tape is not much of an option as I get a few requests a month to restore a lost file from a prior month, etc
27:26 <brayden> yeah tape is a nightmare for that
27:26 <gnif> something they deleted they didn't notice for ages
27:35 <brayden> + my tape backups weren't working so well recently as I needed to replace the cleaning tape
28:02 <steve30> i just backup onto other HDDs
28:05 <brayden> joys of second hand equipment.
28:08 <therealazzurro> usually you want to keep about 30 days worth of backups on disk and then move that to tape
28:26 <gnif> For most things I use BareOS combined with some custom scripts/apps to allow for live backups of databases by means of XtraBackup (or the mariadb version)
28:42 <brayden> yeah I've got 21 days on disk for home, 14 days for remote
28:45 <brayden> for tapes it's whatever it can handle
29:08 <gnif> to save power I have the SAS arrays spin up only when needed
29:12 <therealazzurro> and then keep x amount of monthly/quarterly/yearly backups on tape which meet your requirements
29:26 <therealazzurro> nice
29:27 <brayden> yeah I've got a couple of DS4246s and did consider something like that
29:36 <brayden> but one time I had a drive fail to come up after a cold start (power outage)
29:44 <brayden> wasn't dead, just needed to be reseated
29:49 <brayden> so I guess I'm a bit paranoid about that lol
29:51 <therealazzurro> happens
29:57 <therealazzurro> RAID 6 is my friend :D
30:01 <gnif> well it's not a cold start
30:08 <gnif> SAS supports drive spindown
30:11 <brayden> ohh
30:28 <brayden> I thought you meant like.. powering off via a networked PDU or something
30:34 <gnif> you can set an inactivity timeout so they automatically spin down after X minutes of zero activity
30:46 <brayden> therealazzurro, how many drives in your RAID 6?
30:53 <therealazzurro> 8
31:02 <brayden> didn't consider a RAID60?
31:06 <gnif> I don't trust Raid 5/6
31:19 <brayden> yeah the big boy array is using RAID10 here
31:21 <gnif> I usually run RAID10
31:34 <therealazzurro> NL-SAS 3TB, gives me about 1GByte/s sequential throughput
31:34 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
31:45 <therealazzurro> RAID60 would have cost too much
31:50 * gnif throws a cucumber at steve30 
31:56 <therealazzurro> I don't trust any mirroring without parity information
31:58 <brayden> lol just using linux md here
32:04 <MrMobodies> tht looks interesting
32:05 <MrMobodies> https://docs.bareos.org/_images/bareos-webui-jobs.png
32:16 <MrMobodies> something for me to look at later thank you for mentioning
32:18 <therealazzurro> i use LSI MegaRAID Controllers
32:20 <brayden> the resync times on raid10 are soooooo fast though
32:24 * Halcyon pets steve30 
32:30 <brayden> I mean I'm using all second hand shit and had about 3 drives fail now
32:35 <Halcyon> I just use ZFS
32:38 <therealazzurro> yeah if it syncs to the correct drive
32:48 <gnif> MrMobodies, no worries... it can be a bit of a PITA to wrap your head around how it's setup, but once you do, it's bliss
33:06 <brayden> takes about 3 hours resync after inserting the replacement drive and adding it
33:08 <brayden> 2TB drives
33:16 <gnif> there is also a windows version of the file daemon which is good if you need to manage a windows network too
33:31 <therealazzurro> ZFS didn't work as well like hardware RAID for me. hardware RAID was faster and an OS agnostic absolute no-brainer
33:34 <brayden> idk therealazzurro yo'ud be horrified, I mutilate all the LSI RAIDs by reflashing them to HBAs lol
33:38 <MrMobodies> Last year I got an Areca Raid controller for £25 or so pound on ebay. It was an Areca 1881 I think, nothing wrong with it.
33:45 <brayden> the LSI RAID is pretty shit to config
33:46 <MrMobodies> they were selling for so much more
33:58 <Halcyon> I'm not fussed about the OS Agnostic part as I use FreeBSD and Linux here anyway
33:58 <brayden> especially "Web BIOS"
34:00 <MrMobodies> one thing i like is the network port, I can mount drives remotely
34:16 <therealazzurro> storcli is my friend, f* the GUI :P
34:21 <MrMobodies> and it remembers the settings for ones plugged in before
34:29 <brayden> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37438_01/html/E36228/figures/LSI_2-virtual-drives.png
34:33 <gnif> thinking of which, if anyone in the NSW/Sydney area has an old JBOD SAS array for cheap/sale, I would be VERY interested
34:40 <brayden> mouse control is basically impossible in that UI lol
34:48 <brayden> :(
34:52 <therealazzurro> yeah like i said, only using cli
35:10 <MrMobodies> Anybody remember the Megaraid Enterprise 1600 with all the batteries on it?
35:15 <brayden> I mean I could give you some storsimple piece of shit that you can put a dell compellent/netapp or whatever controller into
35:17 <brayden> butttt
35:22 <brayden> you'd have to make the trip to perth lol
35:34 <therealazzurro> lol
35:50 <gnif> ideally I want just the enclosure with a SAS interface
36:12 <brayden> yeah it'd need a controller swap to be a dumb SAS box
36:32 <MrMobodies> a sas connector in the back
36:34 <brayden> I put in a netapp IOM6 to test it and that theoretically works but you gotta buy some weird ass cable for taht
36:43 <Halcyon> gnif, I wish you told me about 3 months ago
36:49 <Halcyon> We threw a bunch out at work
36:53 <gnif> ARGH!
36:54 <brayden> :O
37:11 <gnif> Been looking for one for quite a while now, just for a home setup
37:17 <Halcyon> We have a couple of "old" Dell Fibrechannel doobies
37:28 <Halcyon> *had
37:31 <Halcyon> They got tossed
37:32 <brayden> I was offering my special e-waste services to work for a purestorage SSD array
37:35 <brayden> they didn't come through in the end :(
37:38 <MrMobodies> I got a home setup
37:42 <brayden> daaang
37:42 <MrMobodies> it is in a bit of a mess though
37:46 <brayden> Halcyon, those go for good money at auction
37:46 <Halcyon> I saved a couple of Dell R710 servers
37:47 <MrMobodies> a terrible mess
37:47 <brayden> what a waste
37:49 * gnif cries
37:57 <Halcyon> brayden, yeh I know, but I just don't have the time
38:00 <gnif> I have a R710 I am intending to deploy at some point
38:08 <Halcyon> And my house is full enough of technology
38:08 <brayden> I retired all the R710s tbh
38:16 <Halcyon> I have a decidated store room just full of it
38:16 <brayden> newer ESXis don't support westmere
38:25 <brayden> yeah my granny flat is a datacentre lol
38:27 <brayden> 42U rack
38:31 <Halcyon> This is why I don't use ESXi :P
38:43 * gnif is always on the lookout for free/scrap enterprise stuff to play with
38:45 <brayden> but esxi so good
38:47 <Halcyon> I need to find a bigger rack, my half height one is full
38:55 <gnif> remote admin's dont get to play with the hardware
38:56 <Halcyon> gnif, I'll keep that in mine for next time
39:02 <Halcyon> *mind
39:10 * gnif hugs Halcyon 
39:19 <Halcyon> I'll email you a photo in a sec gnif
40:00 <MrMobodies> I had problems with Esxi one in particular, a lock is put somewhere and all I can do is move the directory and the files out
40:29 <MrMobodies> and it appears hidden until accessing with Ubuntu and the driver
40:34 <MrMobodies> but that's read only
40:49 <brayden> wat
42:04 <Halcyon> I just sent you pics of my server rack and my (messy) store room
42:16 <Halcyon> I wasn't kidding when I said if you need any vintage parts :P
42:27 <MrMobodies> here's my workshop
42:28 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/8Y1lZG7
42:39 <Erhard> Yo
42:40 <MrMobodies> most of the things are beyone obslete
42:52 <MrMobodies> but I am happy with them
43:04 <MrMobodies> the server one the top is my disc imaging
43:04 <Halcyon> I love workshops like that
43:14 <Halcyon> Just going through drawers and boxes would be so much fun
43:16 <MrMobodies> and the server with the fans I am running ESXI 5.5
43:17 <Halcyon> Just finding cool stuff
44:26 <MrMobodies> Well they given to me at someone down the local pub
44:29 <MrMobodies> when it was last opej
44:31 <gnif> sorry, distracted. Got some poor sap that was affected by the GS outage asking for help
44:38 <Erhard> MrMobodies: Lol
44:54 <MrMobodies> I put in some more ram and faster cpu's
45:04 <MrMobodies> very nice in this village
45:14 <MrMobodies> people say hello to you
45:47 <Halcyon> This is why I like living where I like MrMobodies
45:47 <MrMobodies> Try that in Romford Essex when I last there and they come over, say "what you looking at" and throw things at you.
45:52 <Halcyon> In Sydney, no one gives a crap
46:01 <MrMobodies> nice village in Coates, Cambridgeshire
46:34 <Erhard> In Amsterdam nobody gives a crap either.
47:02 <Erhard> What OSes you running?
47:07 <MrMobodies> me?
47:10 <Erhard> Yeah
47:37 <Erhard> I dabble with linux, but still have a soft spot in my heart for BSDs
47:37 <MrMobodies> well I still have the Wwindows 7, on the Esxi I have some Linux stuff
47:49 <MrMobodies> Oracle enterprise with Gnome 2
47:56 <MrMobodies> actually still maintained
48:01 <gnif> Halcyon: DAMN! now I am very jealous, if only for your neat storage setup
48:15 <MrMobodies> Freebsd and windowmaker that Ampera helped ne with
48:22 <Erhard> Cool
48:43 <Erhard> NetBSD is my record for tyhe longest uptime. 10 YEARS and 15 days
48:55 <Erhard> A messed up UPS killed it.
49:02 <MrMobodies> and the other one, Freebsd with kde 5
49:15 <brayden> MrMobodies, how old are tehse pics of your workshop?
49:19 <Halcyon> gnif, the room is a mess at the moment. Shit all over the floor, but I am slowly getting it all organised
49:24 <MrMobodies> just now
49:28 <brayden> lol
49:38 <brayden> if you'd have told me these pics were from 5 years ago I would've believed you
49:39 <brayden> geez
49:41 <MrMobodies> I got some really old ones ten years ago in my house
50:01 <MrMobodies> how does it look 5 years old?
50:11 <brayden> those monitors
50:13 <gnif> Halcyon, you should use a toilet
50:18 <gnif> wonderful invention
50:23 <MrMobodies> oh those the HP 2065
50:25 <brayden> that HP case.. looks like maybe gen 8 at the newest?
50:25 <MrMobodies> I love them
50:34 <MrMobodies> one of them cost £450 in 2006
50:42 <MrMobodies> 2013 I picked the lot up for £30 each
50:44 <MrMobodies> and they still work
50:47 <therealazzurro> esxi is the best <3 :D running 6.7 here on a R720 dual ivy-bridge 10 core
50:56 <brayden> nice
50:58 <MrMobodies> lovelly
51:06 <MrMobodies> I got a graphics card to work in mine
51:06 <Halcyon> Ill remember that gnif for next time :P
51:08 <brayden> do you have vcentre therealazzurro?
51:09 <MrMobodies> passthrough
51:20 <MrMobodies> it is a Quadro FX 3800
51:28 <gnif> esxi... blah
51:31 <MrMobodies> but some parameters needed to be set
51:34 <brayden> yeah, I passthrough the LSI HBA to a guest for the storage shit
51:34 <gnif> qemu or death
51:37 <brayden> lol
51:39 <therealazzurro> yes vCenter makes things even better
51:41 <MrMobodies> it is the free edition
51:48 <brayden> the esxi host UI is so bad
51:48 <MrMobodies> I wanted to use Proxmox
51:51 <brayden> but vcentre.. oh my god
51:55 <brayden> in dark mode tooooo
52:02 <MrMobodies> but I could not get the PCI Passthrough to work
52:03 <brayden> therealazzurro, take it to 7.0, they improved the VM dashboard thingy so much
52:15 <MrMobodies> I use ESX 5.5
52:18 <brayden> :O
52:22 <MrMobodies> the new one is horrid
52:22 <brayden> so you got ye olde fat client?
52:28 <brayden> 6.0 supports teh fat client still too
52:29 <MrMobodies> yes
52:32 * gnif uses qemu, but he is biased as he is a qemu dev :)
52:38 <therealazzurro> second X9DR3-F based esxi with the same ivy bridge here as well :)
52:48 <therealazzurro> yes i'm planning to move to 7.0 at some point
52:50 <brayden> dude MrMobodies I hated the host UI.. and it still sucks
52:55 <brayden> but vcentre oh my god
52:58 <brayden> it's sooo good
53:01 * Erhard did a bunch of xen
53:08 <MrMobodies> I was onto Promox Qqemu based but
53:15 <MrMobodies> I could nto get the pci passthrough towkr
53:18 <MrMobodies> somethign i wanted
53:26 <gnif> PCI passthrough is awesome
53:29 <brayden> yeah I was doing some GPU passthrough stuff on my old manjaro machine and man.. vfio lol
53:38 <brayden> took a whole afternoon to get nouveau to stop trying to load
53:44 <brayden> "HOW DO BLACKLIST WORK"
53:45 <MrMobodies> So that's why I gave up on proxmox, I am not sure if it is the chipset
53:45 <brayden> eventually got it
53:46 <therealazzurro> if you need pci passthrough you are either doing it wrong or you do have a very special use case
53:50 <brayden> and then teh VM wasn't terribly stable haha
53:53 <brayden> gave up and used moonlight instead
54:02 <MrMobodies> well I mounted the graphics card and Intel nics
54:07 <MrMobodies> it actually works
54:09 <brayden> therealazzurro, I had a multi GPU system, AMD for the host and nvidia for the guest. the things you do on linux
54:14 <brayden> was using looking glass to do video to the host
54:26 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/sE0iuSo.jpg
54:31 <MrMobodies> the long silver thing
54:35 <gnif> My desktop at home is a 24 core threadripper... I run two VMs each with their own vfio gpu each... one runs a Quadro K1200 and drives four monitors. The other is a 1080Ti, in windows. Using Looking Glass from VM to VM so I can game in windows from linux
54:36 * Erhard is Amsterdam has to head to work. Cya
54:38 <brayden> what gen is that MrMobodies?
54:43 <brayden> dang
54:46 <therealazzurro> 8 i guess
54:48 <brayden> i'm just a ryzen 5800x pleb
55:41 <therealazzurro> i guess you can do that MrMobodies :D but why?
56:00 <therealazzurro> i like purpose built systems
56:21 <therealazzurro> workstation for workstation stuff, server for server stuff
56:22 <gnif> I was doing this on a Ryzen 1700X initially, the 5800x is more then enough
56:50 <brayden> I wish I could get at least a 5900x but man
56:53 <therealazzurro> spares me of needing to have obscure setups
58:11 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/tBgsHN9.jpg
58:19 <MrMobodies> I like to map thing sto the virtual machine
58:34 <MrMobodies> sata controllers
58:38 <MrMobodies> so I mount drives in there
58:47 <MrMobodies> I have some bays that the drives just slide in
58:54 <gnif> I do the same with my sas controller
59:06 <gnif> I pass it into a VM which handles it
59:23 <therealazzurro> i like having my VMs moveable :D
59:27 <therealazzurro> https://imgur.com/a/M8YYs81
59:27 <MrMobodies> very handy
00:05 <MrMobodies> what one is that?
00:09 <brayden> MrMobodies, https://i.imgur.com/5qjSrpm.png this is how it looks in vcentre 7
00:17 <MrMobodies> aah the logo
00:26 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 2566 miles to km
00:26 <EEVBlog> The result is: 4,129.566 km
00:29 <Ysjoelfir> yikes
00:42 <MrMobodies> looks straight forward
00:54 <gnif> EEVBlog convert -1 miles to km
00:54 <EEVBlog> The result is: -1.609 km
00:56 <MrMobodies> I have one thing that helps a lot
01:12 <MrMobodies> it is a network KVM switch
01:17 <MrMobodies> 16 port
01:23 <MrMobodies> I think it is a HP AF601A
02:08 <MrMobodies> one shortfall is that can't do remote resolutons greater than 1280 b 1024
02:59 <brayden> https://nc.brayden.io/s/axmiggYLSzP6CPY top of rack, https://nc.brayden.io/s/MiCcPqHeocFWk6i bottom
03:11 <brayden> probably doing better than that belkin KVM
03:17 <brayden> I have to run firefox 3.6 to get it to work with its own custom plugin
03:22 <brayden> and even then it's a glitchy mess
03:42 <MrMobodies> I still got that
04:12 <MrMobodies> oh no my mistake it was 22
04:42 <brayden> rackstuds are good for network gear btw
04:48 <gnif> damn you brayden with your big drive arrays!
05:15 <therealazzurro> gnif have you seen https://imgur.com/a/M8YYs81 :D
05:21 <brayden> yeah gnif I was an auction addict for a while
05:23 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/XmldHzC
05:23 <therealazzurro> regarding big drive arrays
05:24 <gnif> I did
05:25 <brayden> now I barely even look at them
05:29 <MrMobodies> Hp AF601A
05:49 <brayden> therealazzurro, you don't use the dark theme? :(
05:53 <MrMobodies> 2 remote users and 1 console
05:59 <brayden> if you click on your username there's a "switch theme" button
06:00 <brayden> soo nice
06:13 <therealazzurro> nah don't care about that
06:14 <MrMobodies> big drive arrays?
06:28 <MrMobodies> how big?
06:29 <gnif> at the moment for home I am running a DIY sas array I made by cutting the front of an old HP G2 (IIRC) and a heap of connectors.
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07:09 <brayden> 2TB drives in the netapp boxes, 12x3TB, 2x6TB and 2x8TB in the supermicro chassis
07:26 <brayden> tho the netapp one has got 40x2TB, 4 blank spots and 4x400GB SSDs for cache
07:33 <MrMobodies> Someone told me about Netapp
07:47 <therealazzurro> lol what are you doing with a netapp at home
07:58 <MrMobodies> they had a problem syncronization some database
08:06 <brayden> yeah not running their controllers, it's plugged into a debian VM
08:08 <MrMobodies> oh now this was some at the pub who worked for the water board
08:25 <MrMobodies> and he did the drawings and maps of all the pipes and swewers
09:01 <MrMobodies> I am not sure be he said something about some syncronising issue with Netapp
09:06 <gnif> right now I need to focus though. I picked up 20x 270W solar panels from Canberra a few weeks back some guy gave away... so my next project focus is on that
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09:16 <brayden> oh nice
09:23 <therealazzurro> cool
09:24 <brayden> I had to get solar to deal with the power usage here
09:32 <MrMobodies> 5400w
09:39 <brayden> yeah 270w is a bit crusty nowadays
09:39 <Halcyon> Yeh same
09:48 <MrMobodies> planning to get batteries with it?
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09:51 <Halcyon> I'm about to get another array and batteries installed next week
10:22 <gnif> already have the batteries
10:28 <gnif> it will replace a 2.2KW system
11:08 <gnif> 270w is crusty... unless it's free and you don't want to buy panels
11:18 <brayden> free is good yeah
11:38 <brayden> what panels were tehy?
11:51 <gnif> solar
11:52 <gnif> :P
11:55 <Halcyon> :P
11:58 <brayden> no manufacturer? lol
12:01 <gnif> really though, no idea
12:05 <brayden> lol
12:07 <gnif> not at home to check atm
12:24 <Halcyon> I'll check gnif, I'm sitting in the car outside your house :P
12:53 <brayden> watch a few lockpickinglawyer videos to figure out how to get through the garage door
12:54 <gnif> My inlaws are there atm... this should be interesting
13:09 <Halcyon> Oh that was the old man I saw naked :P
13:20 <MrMobodies> do you have feed in tarrifs?
13:22 <MrMobodies> before I moved I had a feed in tarrif, where I paid 15p per kw and export it back for 22p but scheme no longer exists.
13:29 <Halcyon> We do but they suck
13:37 <Halcyon> I think they are down to like 9c kWh now
13:39 <gnif> ^ thus batteries
13:40 <brayden> yeah the FIT is near useless in perth too
13:41 <MrMobodies> I made about 7p of the grid
13:43 <Halcyon> Exactly gnif
13:43 <brayden> oh fancy
13:46 <brayden> it's 7c/kwh here
13:48 <brayden> and falling
13:57 <MrMobodies> that is the only thing i miss
14:06 <MrMobodies> but I am waiting for incentives to come back
14:16 <brayden> they reckon battery incentives may be coming to WA
14:18 <MrMobodies> other wise I have to rely on batteries
14:25 <Halcyon> I'd rather be self suffient.
14:49 <MrMobodies> I was think I could have an economy 7 tarriff and meter installed
14:55 <MrMobodies> charge up the batteries in the night
14:56 <Halcyon> They are talking about implementing new systems here where the government can remotely turn off your solar supply and force you buy off the grid when things become unstable
14:59 <gnif> I paid something like $800 for 4x 12V 200aH lead acid batteries, ex DC, 12 months old... that coupled with the free panels I already had paid themselves off in 6-8 months
15:00 <MrMobodies> and export back to the grid in the day
15:07 <brayden> geez
15:10 <brayden> bit late for that tho
15:24 <MrMobodies> oh dear control the tariffs
15:28 <Halcyon> Yep
15:32 <MrMobodies> self sufficient comes to mind
15:37 <Halcyon> So I am getting in know before that crap comes in
15:41 <Halcyon> *now
16:09 <Halcyon> I'll just wrap my meter box in faraday material :P
16:16 <Halcyon> The signal is weak enough here, should be easy to block
16:39 <brayden> rip the SIM card out, put it in your phone and free data!
16:47 <brayden> someone did that in tasmania and got a hell of a bill iirc
16:50 <Halcyon> They probably use eSIMs these days
17:04 * gnif puts up a high gain repeater with a yagi pointed at Halcyon's meter box
17:27 <Halcyon> I guess a lot of these smart meters would have external antenna ports, just feed that to ground or something
17:38 <MrMobodies> aah Gnif 9600w that's sound plenty
17:41 <brayden> bigclive did a teardown of a smart meter a while back I think?
17:45 <brayden> I think it was a gas meter though
17:58 <MrMobodies> I wish they would stop calling it *smart*
18:02 <gnif> thats a thought... overload the radio and burn it out...
18:04 <brayden> haha
18:06 <brayden> everything is 'smart' now
18:06 <MrMobodies> it is just a 3g addon
18:34 <gnif> would it be considered tampering if you don't physically touch it?
18:54 * steve30 watches last weeks tim hunkin video
18:57 <MrMobodies> except for Dave's sony TV
19:05 <MrMobodies> if you don't agree to the term and conditions
19:17 <Halcyon> Or run your own IMSI catcher with OpenGSM
19:32 <Halcyon> Just super super low power so you don't get in trouble off ACMA
19:42 <Halcyon> Sorry OpenBTS
19:43 <MrMobodies> you mean tampering/obstructing the signal.
19:45 <MrMobodies> interesting one
20:06 <MrMobodies> if a house has materials that's obstructs it then I suppose little they can do anyway
20:26 <MrMobodies> the smart meter signal I mean
20:28 <brayden> over here the new meters are smartish but no back to the mothership communication, yet
20:41 <brayden> so I guess the solution is to put it behind a gate
21:08 <MrMobodies> in my cupboard I can put stuff and justify it if I wanted to
21:13 <Halcyon> I'm assuming the "owners" of the gear would lawfully be allowed on your property
21:15 <MrMobodies> which has the gas and electrics
21:35 <Halcyon> Meter readers for example
21:35 <brayden> I think if hte meter is behind a gate you're meant to tell them so they can organise self readings and whatnot
21:36 <MrMobodies> I don't mind if they want to read the meter
21:41 <brayden> and then they come by yearly to make sure you weren't lying
22:00 <MrMobodies> I get 4 visits a year I think
22:07 <MrMobodies> to read the meter
22:22 <brayden> man at some point I need to get the whole box rebuilt
22:23 <Halcyon> My meter box is locked, but it's keyed in such a way that they can open it
22:35 <brayden> whoever did it hung it upside down so the door doesnt' stay on
22:36 <brayden> total pain
22:37 <Halcyon> It's one of those Abloy locks
23:11 <brayden> also no RCDs lol
23:48 <MrMobodies> all they need to stop in their tracks is a good grounding to earth
24:09 <Halcyon> Or could you just chuck a resistor in the antenna port?
24:10 <MrMobodies> sorry poor joe
24:27 <brayden> man you know they're just going to come out and replace it again lol
24:36 <Halcyon> :P
24:53 <MrMobodies> In America I read about all those "smart meter2 fires
25:10 <MrMobodies> but the documentaries show possibilities or arcing
25:32 <MrMobodies> where the contacts can be loose
25:36 <Halcyon> I guess through mis-installation though?
25:41 <MrMobodies> shouldn't they have replaced the housing?
26:02 <MrMobodies> if the contacts/pins were larger on the older units
26:09 <MrMobodies> that's could cause arcing
26:26 <MrMobodies> and someone forgot to tighten them up when they slid them in
26:50 * Halcyon nibbles steve30 
26:57 <gnif> this one comes with a safey light: https://imgur.com/WxqQIEB
27:00 <Halcyon> Don't eat all those biscuits at once :P
27:02 <gnif> *safetu
27:05 <gnif> **safety
27:10 <Halcyon> Hahah
27:14 <Halcyon> A little toasty there
27:43 <brayden> woah
27:44 <brayden> feeling safer already
27:46 <MrMobodies> what happened with that?
27:57 <gnif> contact resistance
28:00 <MrMobodies> oh safety light hwere it is glowing
28:09 <brayden> don't touch the light
28:19 <Halcyon> I think that's the light that indicates danger
28:27 <MrMobodies> 30 years ago I was helping some move into a council flat
28:33 <MrMobodies> and the electrics in there was very bad
28:45 <MrMobodies> It had exposed mains terminals int he cupboard
29:00 <MrMobodies> thick cable and tied together and went into the meter
29:05 <Halcyon> My mate bought an old ex-government house in Canberra, half of his sockets had missing grounds
29:06 <MrMobodies> very shoddy and unsage
29:08 <brayden> wow
29:14 <brayden> my mum's house was pretty good
29:22 <brayden> cracked face plates on AC outlets in the bathroom
29:28 <brayden> she's wondering why she gets a tingle from them
30:02 <MrMobodies> that;s worrying earthing issue
30:29 <MrMobodies> I was a boarding school and the owners criticised the amount of things I had plugged in
31:00 <MrMobodies> I said look I brought some surge protector sockets (for my sake), I made everything is safe
31:11 <MrMobodies> and took them in the middle of the building where the two house join
31:25 <MrMobodies> and showed them the electrics there outside exposed in the wet
31:42 <Halcyon> Just a little soggy, it's still good, it's still good
31:46 <MrMobodies> not waterproof rated all cowboy work
32:15 <MrMobodies> one day I had an argument with one of them and told them get out of my bedroom
32:29 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/0LTgNVwfMAE?t=45
32:35 <MrMobodies> they don't pay for it the LEA does and whatever I do is my business as long as it is safe
32:42 <MrMobodies> and they left me alone after that
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33:15 <MrMobodies> simpsons
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33:46 <MrMobodies> i mean all the power I was using
33:56 <MrMobodies> which wasn't much compared to what I use now
34:44 <MrMobodies> in 3 days the lock in England may lift *a littke* but not much
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37:43 <Skaface82> hi!
37:53 <Halcyon> Howdy Skaface82
37:59 <steve30> yeah, looks like we might be afforded the luxury of going for a coffee next week
38:05 <Halcyon> BRB, need to load the dishwasher
38:18 <Skaface82> i only just saw that there is an official channel for this thing
38:26 <Skaface82> in that fire video
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40:14 <MrMobodies> just looking back miss gnif comment, 24 core threadripper, what motherboard do is it on?
40:16 <Skaface82> does Dave hang out here at all or is it pretty much a fan channel
40:41 <MrMobodies> Brayden: i don't know what gen possible old
41:06 <MrMobodies> I mean for the PCI graphics cards and stuff you have on there
41:47 <steve30> I think Dave came in once. He doesn;t really like irc
41:51 <MrMobodies> looks like that needs a lot of cooling
42:12 <MrMobodies> I like his new broadcasting station
42:13 <K> hello pastries
42:38 <MrMobodies> little editing, more talk, I love the sound of his voice
42:47 <MrMobodies> very honest sounding
43:33 <MrMobodies> especially when it comes to bullsh*t
43:41 <MrMobodies> and marketting
46:13 <MrMobodies> Very nice time in here but I got to bed.
46:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hello K , mr. cake
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47:57 <Halcyon> Skaface82, well welcome :)
48:24 <Halcyon> Skaface82, Dave has been here very occasionally, usually when he isn't busy and we organise a bit of a chat
48:56 <Skaface82> ty Halcyon
49:00 <Skaface82> ok cool
49:35 <Ysjoelfir> I have to say that I... never.... saw him here. And how log have I been idling around now? 2 years? 3? :D
49:36 <Halcyon> The reason why we haven't done more publically announced "Dave chats" is because to moderate something like that would be difficult
49:56 <Ysjoelfir> yep, that would be a huge pain
49:59 <Halcyon> He has been here at least twice
50:11 <Ysjoelfir> :O you didn't tell me!
50:16 <Halcyon> It's just easier to spin up a live video and have him answer stuff in person
50:21 <Halcyon> I did tell you, but you were asleep
50:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol
50:39 <Ysjoelfir> shame on me, being on the opposite side of the world ;P
50:48 <Halcyon> I could probably get in touch with David2 again and see if he's interested
50:52 <Halcyon> He had a few fans
51:27 <Halcyon> The thing is, when you have everyone wanting to ask questions all at once, it just becomes a mess
52:06 <Ysjoelfir> yep, that would be a huge mess.
52:52 <Halcyon> IRC isn't the best medium for that. Most of us are here because we like the old technology and part of the reason why we launched it on Austnet was that it's Australia's last IRC server.
53:12 <Halcyon> But it's good here, we often just talk shit amongst ourselves
53:19 <Halcyon> Especially when Ampera's around
53:20 <Halcyon> :P
53:24 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if there is a "Germnet". which sounds hilarious :D
53:34 <Halcyon> Invent one :P
54:05 <Ysjoelfir> finally some more stuff I can shove into my little intel atom Server that reconnects every day!
54:15 <Halcyon> kraut.net.de ?
54:18 <Ysjoelfir> lol
59:29 <K> potato.net.lv
59:42 <Ysjoelfir> that would be your server :P
59:47 <K> yes
59:51 <K> my precious.
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06:18 <Halcyon> :P
07:14 <steve30> I think I'll make some cakes
07:29 <Halcyon> What kind of cake?
07:37 <Halcyon> Why don't you livestream that Steve?
07:41 <steve30> chocolate chip
07:44 <Halcyon> I'd watch Cooking with Stee
08:07 <Halcyon> You could call yourself the "Masterbaker" :P
08:08 <steve30> I'll have to do that another time, as my Mum is here and she'd just get in the way
09:03 <Halcyon> You should could be called "Masterbake with Steve"
09:07 <Halcyon> I'm full of ideas :P
09:13 <Halcyon> *Your show
09:27 <steve30> I did bread this morning :)
09:40 <steve30> That would make for a fascinating video.
10:04 <steve30> Put ingedients in bread maker.... Press Start.... Wait 5 hours.
10:16 <Halcyon> You could be like the topless baker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnIpJ1l-nx4
10:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol Halcyon, kraut.tech is still available xD
10:36 <Halcyon> It has a nice ring to it Ysjoelfir
10:43 <Ysjoelfir> as well as kraut.digital
11:01 <Ysjoelfir> let me see what my hoster wants for kraut.tech, I might order that just for fun
11:54 <Ysjoelfir> wth
12:02 <Ysjoelfir> 95.63€ per year
12:11 <Ysjoelfir> thats three times as much as my .engineering domain costs
12:24 <K> Das is eine grosse Kraut!
12:32 <Ysjoelfir> It is indeed a very big kraut
12:59 <K> is "Kraut" synonym for "money" in german ?
13:02 <Halcyon> Let me see what I can get it for
13:14 <Ysjoelfir> oh wait, I pay my engineering tld in 2 year packages. so that would make it 6 times as expensive
13:22 <Halcyon> I have a registrar account
13:27 <Ysjoelfir> K : no, but I like the idea :P
13:36 <Ysjoelfir> uh, nice Halcyon :D I might migrate to you than! XD
13:37 <K> here we do
14:04 <Halcyon> I can do you mates rates Ysjoelfir
14:17 <Halcyon> Depends on the domain though, not all of them are that much cheaper
14:59 <Ysjoelfir> I have a .engineering, a .technology and a .de registered right now.
15:18 <steve30> Halcyon, I could nibble on him
15:26 <Halcyon> .tech costs me AUD$86/yr
15:58 <therealazzurro> i dont even have tech lol only .technology
15:59 <therealazzurro> wtf
16:05 <K> EEVBlog convert 86 AUD to EUR
16:05 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
16:06 <therealazzurro> 17,90 a year
16:14 <Halcyon> .technology is AUD$27.81/yr
16:48 <therealazzurro> ha your price is .13 AUD cheaper than mine lol
16:52 <Halcyon> Yep
16:54 <K> order a fancy domain and get add 2 months to your DHL packages delivery time!
17:03 <Halcyon> Some have very little margin on them
17:17 <therealazzurro> de is the most ridiculous
17:39 <therealazzurro> 3.8 a year and that still expensive
18:06 <Halcyon> .com.au costs me AUD12.99/yr
18:19 <Halcyon> .com.de is $80
18:30 <Halcyon> .de is $134
18:33 <Halcyon> Fucking crazy
18:36 <therealazzurro> lol
18:44 <therealazzurro> .com.au costs me 30.9AUD
19:02 <therealazzurro> .de costs me 5,93AUD lol
19:18 <Halcyon> Hahahha .rich is $4119.95/yr
19:18 <therealazzurro> .com.de i don't even have
19:36 <therealazzurro> lol
19:47 <Halcyon> I reckon that would be my most expensive TLD I can sell
20:01 <Halcyon> And that's my buy price
20:10 <Halcyon> The retail price is $6180.00/yr
20:32 <therealazzurro> sick
21:45 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, I can do you a .berlin for $75.20/yr
21:45 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: NASA JPL: 🎶Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle 🎶 With just a little bit of swing, the #MarsHelicopter has moved its blades & spun to 50 rpm in preparation for first flight! Takeoff is slated for April 11, with confirmation expected overnight into April 12 for us Earthlings. https://t.co/TNCdXWcKWE https://t.co/EpDZymjP13
21:48 <Halcyon> :P
22:03 <Ysjoelfir> ew, berlin :D
22:54 <Halcyon> Oh there is a .gmbh now
23:01 <therealazzurro> 59.34AUD here :P seems i'm getting european tlds cheaper than you but outside EU TLDs seem to be cheaper for you in turn
23:30 <Halcyon> Yep
23:37 <Halcyon> This is a UK/AU company so it makes sense
23:39 <therealazzurro> yes gmbh is 40.44AUD here
24:00 <therealazzurro> yep mine is a german one
24:08 <Ysjoelfir> ew, germans!
24:14 <Ysjoelfir> ew, denic!
24:31 <Halcyon> Hehehe .wang
24:32 <Ysjoelfir> (which is the only german domain registration thingy I know of)
24:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol
24:36 <therealazzurro> i'm not german though :D
24:40 <therealazzurro> lol
24:40 <Ysjoelfir> ah
24:43 <Ysjoelfir> thats fine than
24:48 <therealazzurro> .industries
24:52 <Halcyon> Damn krauts :P
24:53 <Ysjoelfir> I hate germans. all of them!!!111einself
24:54 <therealazzurro> halcyon.industries
24:58 <therealazzurro> lol
25:12 <Halcyon> I thought maybe rigid.wang
25:34 <Halcyon> Alll of the penis jokes
26:11 <therealazzurro> as long as your pen is not in your penis
26:30 <Halcyon> That would sting
26:47 <therealazzurro> ya probably
28:55 <Halcyon> I should probably finish the last part of dinner and get it in the oven
29:16 <therealazzurro> mhh dinner
29:25 <therealazzurro> that's something i have to wait 6 more hours for
29:51 <Halcyon> It's 1930 here
30:10 <therealazzurro> lucky you
30:21 <Halcyon> Nah
30:23 * T3sl4 munches a omelette on toast
30:24 <Ysjoelfir> I basically just got up
30:31 <Halcyon> It's just closert to having to go back to work next week
30:35 <Halcyon> Morning T3sl4
30:36 * Ysjoelfir munches a Stuten
30:53 <T3sl4> morn Halcyon
31:03 <therealazzurro> hi
31:23 * Ysjoelfir offers T3sl4 a slize of his Stuten
31:27 * T3sl4 gives therealazzurro an egg
31:32 <therealazzurro> Ysjoelfir: why is that
31:42 <Halcyon> Show me pics of your stuten Ysjoelfir :P
31:44 <Ysjoelfir> because I like the taste
31:58 <therealazzurro> is dis egg for throwing or for eating
32:06 <therealazzurro> no i meant why just got up
32:13 <therealazzurro> is it that early at yours?
32:15 <Halcyon> Speaking of eggs, I need to make these tea eggs one day
32:22 <Halcyon> With soy sauce and bollocks
32:22 <T3sl4> we're breakfasting apparently, but Halcyon could always use one in the face ;)
32:27 <therealazzurro> what is a stuten anyway
32:34 <therealazzurro> xD
32:52 <therealazzurro> unfortunately idk how to do the throwing thing in irc
33:06 <therealazzurro> and i couldn't be bothered googling it
33:08 <therealazzurro> :P
33:10 <Halcyon> You can type /me followed by stuff
33:17 <Halcyon> like...
33:20 * T3sl4 stuff
33:20 * therealazzurro followed by stuff
33:22 <therealazzurro> :D
33:23 * Halcyon cuddles T3sl4 
33:42 * therealazzurro throws the egg in Halcyons face
33:50 <therealazzurro> here you go, my pleasure
33:54 <Halcyon> Nom
34:36 <Halcyon> I think Guga did some tea egg recipes of late...
35:22 <Halcyon> This one: https://youtu.be/FtZT5Q4nHbA?t=99
35:29 <Halcyon> Looks super easy but delicious
36:08 <therealazzurro> speaking of tea eggs and asian style food.. anyone knows korean englishmen?
36:17 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yAd8DLLz34EvLdCxW0EaraZHCRhDeCK5/view?usp=sharing
36:33 <Ysjoelfir> And tea eggs... I MUST do them again. those are just so yppr
36:40 <Halcyon> Cream cheese and marmalade?
36:58 <T3sl4> schmand?
37:15 <Ysjoelfir> therealazzurro no, its 11:36 here. But I went to sleep late and got up late, so... meh.
37:20 <therealazzurro> jeez are you all germany fanboys or just plain germans? lol
37:27 <T3sl4> nein
37:31 <therealazzurro> i see
37:33 <Halcyon> I'm Euro trash living/grew up in Australia
37:36 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, as T3sl4 said: its Schmand^^
37:50 <Halcyon> Yes, but what the fuck is Schmand?
38:01 <Ysjoelfir> xD you know sour cream, right?
38:06 <Halcyon> Ohhh yeh
38:13 <Halcyon> Never thought about having it on bread before
38:16 <Ysjoelfir> immagine that, without any spices and more fat
38:27 <Halcyon> Sour cream doesn't usually have spices?
38:32 <Halcyon> It's just sour cream
38:33 <Ysjoelfir> its 24% fat.
38:40 <therealazzurro> yuk
38:49 <Halcyon> That's fairly typical for cream I would think? Let me go to the fridge and check
38:53 <Ysjoelfir> ah, then you thought about the sour cream I meant, and not what is sold (at least in german stores) as sour cream.
39:32 <Halcyon> I have regular cream which is 35.6% fat
39:48 <Ysjoelfir> also therealazzurro... I am one of those nasty krauts, yes. which is why I am allowed to make fun of it :P
39:49 <therealazzurro> germans.. they don't know what good food is, anywhere above southern germany
40:02 <Halcyon> Our "sour cream" literally comes in cartons or in little tubs like regular fresh cream, except that it has soured
40:07 <Halcyon> Nothing else is added to it
40:27 <Ysjoelfir> I would more or less say the inverted thing, mr. therealazzurro :D everything below northrine westfalia is bad. xD
40:34 <therealazzurro> lol didn't know germans are called krauts
40:46 <Halcyon> therealazzurro, you've never watched Hogan's Heroes?
40:47 <Halcyon> :P
40:51 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, that sounds very nice. regular sour cream around here is 15 to 20% fat oO
41:10 <therealazzurro> so you are putting tons of smelly sauce on your schnitzel?
41:10 <Halcyon> I'm just looking now...
41:30 <Halcyon> Regular sour cream here is about 26% fat
41:35 <Ysjoelfir> ok, for schnitzels I actually prefer the austrian variant
41:41 <Halcyon> Light sour cream is 13%
41:48 <therealazzurro> no@Hogan's Heroes
42:16 <Halcyon> I love Hogan's Heroes. Once of my favourite series'
42:17 <therealazzurro> and is your schnitzel about 1cm thick or more like 3-5mm?
42:20 <Ysjoelfir> but I hate eg. the way bavarians eat their sausage. thats so inhumane :D
42:34 <Ysjoelfir> I like it thin, but I can't get thin ones around here.
42:45 <Halcyon> You could just belt the crap out of it Ysjoelfir
42:47 <T3sl4> I KNOW NOZING!
42:54 <therealazzurro> haha that's a very special sausage and you don't want to try digesting the hull of it lol
43:41 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon.... well... yes, but no. mrs. landlordlady would be fucked up about the pounding.
43:50 <Ysjoelfir> and regarding the sausage.... true, but still :D
43:51 <therealazzurro> yeah and that's a proof of my previous statements about germans and food anywhere else than southern germany. you can't even get thin schnitzels there because they don't know sh*t about it :D
44:04 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/ypE2oT-8Zag?t=14
44:09 <Halcyon> The best show
44:55 <therealazzurro> mhh thanks now i want some weisswurst and pretzels
45:12 <Ysjoelfir> therealazzurro well, still there is nothing better than eg. Himmel un Ääd or just... kale. :D
45:23 <T3sl4> eh, a weiss guy, eh? *boint*
45:51 <therealazzurro> huh?
45:58 <Halcyon> Heheh
46:05 <therealazzurro> what is a Himmel un Ääd
46:17 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yscaDkzHqek
46:36 <Ysjoelfir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himmel_und_Erde
47:01 <therealazzurro> lol
47:09 * therealazzurro puts a Weisswurst in T3sl4s face
47:50 <Halcyon> There is an awesome Bavarian restaurant near here: https://www.bohemian-euro.com.au/
47:58 <Halcyon> It is so delicious
48:16 <Halcyon> https://www.bohemian-euro.com.au/menu
48:49 <therealazzurro> Ysjoelfir: that's one of the things that make me run. run and don't look back, just run until i collapse
49:07 <Ysjoelfir> you don't like blood sausage?
49:46 <Halcyon> They do these big meat troughs https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/86234893_3488602661212631_6264185788053848064_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=yMbBvHdV0cYAX-Gkw36&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=4e68aa3e138cbebce10ce9e6175d545d&oe=60967002
49:49 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, that doesn't look too bad :)
49:52 <therealazzurro> Halcyon: looks delicious!
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49:59 <Halcyon> It's supposed to be "shared" Hehe
50:12 <Ysjoelfir> shared? what does that even mean?
50:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon: i'll take one of each
50:21 <therealazzurro> awesome!
50:25 <Ysjoelfir> we're talking about food, aren't we? one does not share food
50:28 <T3sl4> you can have the plates
50:50 <therealazzurro> Ysjoelfir no, blood sausage is yikes. as well as apples combined with potatoes lol
51:02 <Halcyon> Last time I went there, I had one, even between two there was so much food
51:03 <therealazzurro> haha
51:16 <Ysjoelfir> I see Haxe, Bratwurst, Leberkaese, Sauerkraut, Knoedel.... nice. I take the girls as a side dish as well.
51:30 <therealazzurro> look at this: https://www.facebook.com/LeopoldauerAlm/posts/10158762106550695
51:32 <Halcyon> The girls are just plain Aussie girls. You could do better
51:52 <Halcyon> That's heart attack material that
51:53 <Ysjoelfir> therealazzurro so you don't like liver with apple purre, mashed potatoes and onions as well?
52:07 <Halcyon> Although that burger looks delicious
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52:43 <therealazzurro> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipORvsz2NV02bxN_xobDmZuc1deA8ln2E0kko4EC=w600-h0
52:47 <therealazzurro> liver makes me puke
52:47 <Ysjoelfir> we have one shop like that as well. but it wasn't THAT good. it was just... gigantic
52:57 <Ysjoelfir> why?
53:01 <therealazzurro> apple purre is a desert
53:10 <therealazzurro> and mashed potatoes are dilicious
53:18 <gnif> back.... stupid wireless modem went flat and I brought with me one of those stupid crippled data only USB cables that look like normal cables
53:34 <Halcyon> I'm not a huuuuuge fan of liver, but I like pate's and things
53:39 <Ysjoelfir> I like the idea of using as much of the animal as possible, so eating the stuff inside is not a bad thing, is it?
53:53 <therealazzurro> no it is not but it can be left to those who like it
54:45 <Halcyon> Like dogs?
55:06 <Ysjoelfir> Though I didn't try everything yet. I already had liver (of beef and chicken), chicken hearts and beef kidneys. it all was very delicious actually, though the hearts felt strange in the mough, being pretty... chewy and "popped" when you bit onto them the first time.
55:07 <therealazzurro> Halcyon: yeah heart attacks is what you will get from eating this on a regular basis :D
55:35 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to go finish dinner off
55:37 <Halcyon> I'll take pics :)
55:39 <therealazzurro> Ysjoelfir: you're supposed to cook the hearts before you eat them
55:45 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir loves to see my meat
55:48 <Ysjoelfir> I know.
55:48 <T3sl4> i love gizzards in gravy or stuffing, with chicken/turkey dinner say
55:50 <Ysjoelfir> and yes.
56:03 <T3sl4> KA LI MA!
56:07 <Halcyon> therealazzurro, if you like food, have you see the Cooking section of the forum?
56:08 <Ysjoelfir> whats a gizzard? gnif combined with a lizzard?
56:24 <therealazzurro> no haven't seen that
56:32 <T3sl4> oh not gizzard specifically, giblets i meant
56:40 <T3sl4> gizzard is the tougher stomachparts of a bird
56:40 <Halcyon> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/
57:03 <therealazzurro> interesting
57:13 <gnif> well when I was born my dad said I was a lizzard because I changed colour three times
57:17 <T3sl4> tougher in comparison to other animals that is
58:25 <therealazzurro> gnif lol as did my fiancee. liver/blood issues?
58:44 <Ysjoelfir> I never tried that, T3sl4. Never saw it available to but though
58:49 <gnif> no, just refused to suck air
59:03 <therealazzurro> so stubborn? :D
59:12 <gnif> I hate change
59:30 <therealazzurro> rofl
59:35 <Ysjoelfir> you should have seen him when the server burnt down
59:40 <Ysjoelfir> THAT was a change, I tell you
59:41 * T3sl4 differentiates gnif
59:43 <Halcyon> gnif, one day, I will drag you out kicking and screaming
59:53 <Halcyon> Oh speaking of going out, have you been to Bootlegger Bar?
59:56 <gnif> Halcyon, I am in Katoomba!
00:01 <gnif> *out of
00:09 <Halcyon> I don't mean right this moment
00:11 <gnif> lol
00:29 <gnif> no, never been to any of the local bars
00:36 <gnif> not really a bar person
00:40 <Halcyon> It's a smoked meats restaurant
00:43 <Halcyon> Less of a bar
00:53 <K> barn
00:57 <Halcyon> https://www.bootleggerbar.com.au/
01:04 <T3sl4> i see i summoned K
01:13 <Halcyon> The food there is sublime
01:19 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/egHHyhD.jpg
01:33 <Ysjoelfir> I so hope that they open restaurants soon. I want to enjoy radizio.. rodizio.. something like that, again
01:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4
01:57 <Halcyon> https://www.bootleggerbar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/1L3A0825-1200x800.jpg?x65559
01:58 <Halcyon> Ribs
01:59 <Halcyon> Nom
02:15 <K> haha
02:22 <gnif> wow, I didn't even know it was there
02:32 <gnif> I knew there was a pub along there
02:35 <Halcyon> It is soooo good, we should take Dave :P
02:36 <K> is that the big jumping rat?
02:43 <Halcyon> He eats like a horse
03:01 <gnif> he would have too.... he is too active
03:16 <therealazzurro> Halcyon: i would destroy that piece of meat within minutes.
03:18 <Halcyon> Just planting the seed... one of these days :P
03:37 <T3sl4> keep your seed to yourself, Halcyon
03:49 <Halcyon> Bah
03:50 <Halcyon> :P
04:06 <gnif> We went to "His Boy, Elroy" in the gong yesterday, best burgers I have ever had, hands donw
04:07 <Halcyon> I'm returning to my pie
04:08 <gnif> *down
04:12 <Halcyon> Yeh?
04:17 <Halcyon> I'll have to check it out
04:49 <Halcyon> April Special – Crackles (inc Fries) $20
04:49 <Halcyon> Slow roasted Pork belly, Snow pea slaw, Blood orange marmalade, Pork crackle, Moe’s special sauce, American cheddar cheese & a Milk bun
04:51 <Halcyon> Hell yes
05:22 <gnif> I had the Heisenburger... was awesome
05:25 <T3sl4> dang
05:35 <Halcyon> Ohh I like a good southern fried chicken
06:05 * T3sl4 chicken fries Halcyon
06:12 <therealazzurro> jeez stop it I'm very hungry now :D
06:16 <Halcyon> https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/images/transform/v1/crop/frm/rdPnbxNSt95RbDXSGgzrdz/d487a6fc-d3ba-4faf-badd-2109c245766b.png/r0_0_568_539_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
06:20 <Halcyon> That looks amazing
06:23 <T3sl4> i gave you an egg what more do you want?!
06:37 <T3sl4> mmm pickles
06:47 <K> CEASE THE FOOD TALK
06:57 <Halcyon> Sorry K
06:58 <therealazzurro> T3sl4 every single food that has been showed here, apart from the weird northern germany stuff
07:18 <gnif> If you're into bergers, next time you're in Canberra try Brodberger
07:25 <T3sl4> borgor
07:26 <Halcyon> Oh I know Brodburger :P
07:30 <Halcyon> I know it well
07:40 <Halcyon> They have good cider there too
07:43 <gnif> https://brodburger.com.au/
07:51 <gnif> awesome
07:59 <Halcyon> My favourite place at the moment in Canberra is Lamsheds
08:07 <Halcyon> A little on the pricy side, but OMFG
08:37 <therealazzurro> i want burgers now
08:41 <therealazzurro> many of them
08:45 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:07 <gnif> noted, will check them out when I am down there next
09:27 <gnif> my parents & brother live down there, so we visit from time to time
09:29 <Halcyon> I'm down there in three weeks for my second COVID jab if you're free?
09:31 <therealazzurro> bloody aussie blokes won't let me into their magnificent country
10:09 <therealazzurro> with all their magnificent burgers and meats
10:13 <gnif> that's because you will eat is out of burgers
10:18 <gnif> *us
10:34 <Halcyon> I plan to make a weekend of it, COVID shot isn't until Monday 26th
10:58 <gnif> ill be in the city for work...
11:03 <Halcyon> Gah
11:04 <therealazzurro> gnif you don't share your burgers huh
11:12 <gnif> heeeeel no
11:19 <therealazzurro> haha :D
11:39 <Halcyon> Anyway, back soon guys
11:45 * K cries
11:48 <therealazzurro> cya later alligator
11:51 <gnif> Halcyon... what is your dinner?
11:57 <therealazzurro> now.. burgers
12:05 <therealazzurro> (but he won't admit)
12:06 <K> imma eat this broken velcro strap :|
12:06 * gnif is trying to keep him here till it's cold
12:20 <Halcyon> I am making individual pot pies with a chicken, leek and corn with a creamy mustardy type sauce I just made up
12:24 * T3sl4 gives K some free electrons
12:24 <K> and a pencil.
12:25 <Halcyon> Little bit of chilli
12:49 <gnif> hrmmm, sounds yummy
12:49 <Halcyon> I haven't put them in the oven yet
12:55 <Halcyon> The pastry is defrosting
13:03 <gnif> the pencil and broken velcro strap that is
13:07 <therealazzurro> see, he doesn't admit
13:28 <therealazzurro> K, nothing to eat at home?
13:45 <Halcyon> It's not Ramadan yet?
14:18 <Halcyon> Doesn't that start mid-April?
14:24 <Halcyon> Or is it different everywhere?
14:24 <therealazzurro> no idea
14:42 <therealazzurro> oh K is Ramadaning?
14:50 <therealazzurro> didn't know that
15:10 <K> i'm at work
15:14 <K> and it is too early to eat
15:22 <therealazzurro> it is never too early to eat
15:25 <Ysjoelfir> what is "work"?
15:27 <therealazzurro> and never too late
15:30 <K> i have a sammich and apple pie-ish something
15:46 <K> work is where you don't own the fridge.
15:46 <therealazzurro> doesn't sound like burgerz
15:58 <therealazzurro> not interested
16:02 <Ysjoelfir> oh damn, K! that sounds like a place I don't want to be
16:10 <K> it is horrible.
16:30 <therealazzurro> no food deliverydoo-daas?
16:50 <Halcyon> Work here mandates a fridge. If they can't provide a kitchen etc... on-shift, you get a meal allowance paid to you
17:06 <Halcyon> Microwave and oven as well
17:30 <therealazzurro> more or less same here. besides that, I'm in home office for like a year now
17:36 <therealazzurro> more like over a year now
17:42 <Halcyon> I wish I could work from home :(
17:56 <therealazzurro> what business are you in?
18:01 <Halcyon> Government
18:04 <therealazzurro> i'm in IT, that's easy
18:09 <Halcyon> Cyber security etc...
18:25 <therealazzurro> so why can't you work from home?
18:31 <Halcyon> Because Government
18:31 <therealazzurro> too insecure? :D
18:34 <Halcyon> Yep
18:35 <therealazzurro> geez
19:34 <therealazzurro> haha we have offices in sydney, melbourne and brisbane. maybe we even have worked with you in the past
19:59 <therealazzurro> not me in person but some of my multi-thousand colleagues maybe
21:58 <brayden> man, gotta work out what I'm going to do for food at the new job
22:03 <brayden> it's trapped in the shit end of town
22:13 <brayden> don't think there's a burger joint in sight
24:04 <brayden> there's a weird abundance of japanese places so that might be interesting
25:28 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/0jjw8hyrx2s61.jpg
25:41 <Ysjoelfir> wrong
26:03 <Ysjoelfir> you have a lasagna with either a middle cheese layer or a lasagna with double sided cheese crust, which sounds pretty awesome to me
27:00 <T3sl4> :D
27:03 <therealazzurro> wow you actually do know something about food :D go spread the message in your region, not all hope is lost
27:04 <therealazzurro> xD
27:08 <therealazzurro> (sorry)
30:47 <Halcyon> Which company do you work for therealazzurro if you don't mind me asking?
31:16 * Ysjoelfir searches for the smelly pointy stick to poke therealazzurro 's eyes with :P
31:21 <Halcyon> brayden, you could always pack lunch? I do most of the time
31:31 <brayden> sounds like effort
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32:25 <Halcyon> I just make more dinners than I need to, like curry's, pastas etc... then freeze them
32:38 <Halcyon> Even soup, that freezes well
32:40 <Halcyon> Fried rice
32:45 <brayden> going to see how they operate there at first I guess
32:47 <Halcyon> So many options
32:53 <brayden> since they might want to take me out
33:01 <Halcyon> It also stops you spending $15/day on coffees and foods
33:10 <brayden> haha
33:11 <therealazzurro> Halcyon i don't think i can tell this in public - security and safety reasons...
33:22 <Halcyon> You can PM if you feel comforatable?
33:23 <brayden> thank god I can take it or leave it with coffees
33:26 <Halcyon> If not, I completely understand
33:34 <brayden> therealazzurro the internet is Safe and Secure
33:43 <Halcyon> I need my coffee in the morning but I have my own machine at home and a travel mug :)
33:47 <therealazzurro> brayden yeah sure xD
33:55 <Ysjoelfir> we wanted to try prepacking / prepcooking. like cooking loads of shit on one day and freeze it for the week to take to work.
34:27 <brayden> can yo say what industry?
34:33 <therealazzurro> we are doing comms stuff for public safety and various other fields
34:36 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, if that works for you, great. I just make more each dinner than I need to eat, then freeze the leftovers. That way I have variety and I don't have to go out of my way
34:41 <brayden> oh
35:05 <Halcyon> My guess is maybe SAP, NEC or Motorola, something along those lines
35:24 <therealazzurro> where does SAP make communications stuff?
35:28 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, we wanted to do that especially for the days we are just not in the mood to cook and would otherwise buy expensive takeout meals. not for regular everyday meals :)
35:29 <Halcyon> They don't
35:35 <therealazzurro> but we do :D
36:38 <Halcyon> We also use Codan as a supplier
37:29 <Halcyon> But they aren't a particularly huge company in terms of staff
37:43 <therealazzurro> we are in Aerospace, Defence, Transport, Security, Electronics sector
37:53 <Halcyon> Yeh I figured
38:00 <Halcyon> Could be any number of companies we deal with
38:26 <therealazzurro> :)
39:14 <Halcyon> I know I have pies in the oven, but I kind of want a hotdog now
39:26 <Halcyon> Bloody gnif got me looking at this menu
40:10 * Ysjoelfir unwraps T3sl4 's hotdog for Halcyon
40:27 <Halcyon> T3sl4 is uncircumsized?
40:32 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, i was already circumcised once, i don't need another
40:40 <Halcyon> :P
40:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol
41:50 <Halcyon> https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/170012854_3989983934355563_3887153791115505634_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=89EOm3FWoBkAX9to00n&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=4d0551d6bf94183358550d481562114e&oe=6095431F
41:56 <Halcyon> That pulled pork burger looks amazeballs
42:48 <Ysjoelfir> I had pulled pork flavored chips yesterday.
43:01 <Ysjoelfir> And I made a real pulled pork like... 3 weeks ago
43:05 <Halcyon> Not pringles or some shit like that
43:06 <Halcyon> ?
43:21 <Halcyon> I had Cheeseburger pringles the other day, they were.... weird
43:35 <Ysjoelfir> Crunchips. I don't like those glued together chips like pringles
43:50 <Halcyon> No, the potato flakes they use taste so fake
44:04 <Halcyon> It's like Subway sandwiches, they all taste the same
45:38 <Ysjoelfir> yep. "Do you want a Honey oat, italian or cheese oregano?" - "yes."
45:44 <Halcyon> Hahaha
46:13 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/tf1n2szn72s61.jpg
46:22 <Ysjoelfir> lol
46:34 <gnif> Lol, one message and Halcyon is still here
46:35 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
46:51 <Halcyon> I'm always here :P
47:12 <Ysjoelfir> well... great
47:17 <Ysjoelfir> now IIIII want a sandwich
47:47 <Halcyon> Best fresh sandwiches I've ever had are from this place: http://www.bigbiteonpitt.com.au/bigbiteonpitt/Menu.html
47:51 <gnif> Seems people have misunderstood the outage, I am getting flooded with requests to help bring servers back online at GS now
47:59 * steve30 meows at gnif
48:01 <Halcyon> 1 sandwich would feed two people
48:07 <gnif> as if I managed to jump the queue, or something
48:23 <Ysjoelfir> well gnif, looks like you are a sorcerer
48:24 <Halcyon> gnif, the answer is simple: You charge $300 per hour
48:25 <Halcyon> :P
48:35 <gnif> to do nothing...
48:44 <Halcyon> *shrug*
48:48 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a perfect work condition for me
49:03 <Halcyon> If they want to pay you to do nothing but fire off a few emails, so be it?
49:52 <gnif> haha, nah... it would feel wrong to do that since the only reason eev was given priority is because of Dave's public presence
50:24 <gnif> angry forum of nerds lead by an angry nerd... imagine the PR nightmare
50:27 <Halcyon> Yes but Geoff, you also have a business to run
50:44 <Halcyon> You don't do this shit for free
51:10 <gnif> No, but I don't accept money for things that I can't do anything for
51:32 <Halcyon> Do you want me to respond to your emails while you are away?
51:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol
51:42 <Halcyon> I promise I won't use the fuck word
51:48 <gnif> lol
52:21 * brayden looks back
52:22 <brayden> wait what
52:26 <brayden> what's wrong with the fuck word?
52:27 <gnif> happy to help people restore/rebuild broken systems though
52:43 <gnif> isnt the fuck word "sex"
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52:46 <gnif> ?
52:50 <brayden> shrug
53:00 <Halcyon> It doesn't belong in business... most of the time
53:33 <Halcyon> The thing is, I'm not a civilian. So it's hard for me not to tell people to "get fucked" if they piss me off enough
53:40 <Halcyon> You can't really do that in retail etc...
53:54 * brayden reads scrollback
53:55 <brayden> yeah I see
54:17 <brayden> the GS/WebNX thing is kinda sad
54:19 <Halcyon> Mainly because telling my bosses that they are fuckwits won't get me fired :P
54:34 <brayden> WHT thread filled with screaming about how they're going to leave when they get their data back blahblah
54:44 <brayden> I mean it's a cheap provider, reinvest that money into backups geez louise
55:05 <Halcyon> Provider or no provider, you as an individual customer are responsible for your own shit
55:08 <Halcyon> It's not that hard
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56:07 <brayden> it's a sad day when a total amateur funding their infra out of their pay cheque has working backups but these dudes with apparently irreplaceable data and paying customers don't
56:17 <T3sl4> "it's not that hard" is the last thing i'd have expected Halcyon to say
56:27 <Halcyon> Time and a place T3sl4 :P
56:41 <Halcyon> I have little sympathy for incompetance
56:50 <Halcyon> "Not knowing" is not an excuse in my book
57:11 <Ysjoelfir> you can always learn
57:16 <Halcyon> Nah fuck that
57:27 <brayden> blaming other people seems like an easier solution
57:33 <Ysjoelfir> not you, the "not knowing" person I mean :D
57:43 <Halcyon> If I sign up to something, I know
57:48 <Halcyon> I make it my job to know
58:05 <Ysjoelfir> exactly what I meant. ;)
58:25 <Halcyon> brayden, there is so much of that crap that goes on. It shits me.
58:27 <gnif> it's hard to get managers to understand that you need an extra server just in case... let alone anything else like "backups"
58:35 <gnif> tight asses
58:47 <Halcyon> gnif, most clients don't realise until the shit hits the fan and you say "told you so"
58:51 <brayden> Halcyon, oh yeah my previous job was a total clown show
58:55 <brayden> nobody could take responsibility for anything
58:56 <Halcyon> This is why I always get everything in writing.
59:50 <Halcyon> We have a saying at work: CARE Principal... Cover Arse, Retain Employment
59:55 <gnif> indeed, after which they just repeat their dumbass mistakes
00:04 <gnif> https://i.redd.it/x49iatolvm761.jpg
00:19 <Halcyon> Accurate
00:25 <Halcyon> I am going to print that and take it to work :P
01:00 <gnif> well I am off, gnight all
01:06 <brayden> wow early
01:07 <brayden> goodnight
01:13 <Halcyon> Night matey
01:30 <gnif> on holliday... screw late nites on the PC doing admin, I value sleep when I can get it
01:48 <brayden> lol
01:56 Quit: gnif ([email protected]) Quit: gnight
02:00 <Halcyon> I'm going to go have dinner and sit on the couch
02:01 <Halcyon> Laters
03:37 <Ysjoelfir> "couch". what is that? Is that something related to a PC chair?
05:28 <brayden> no room for furniture in this place
05:49 <brayden> gotta get more storage racks for computer shit
18:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Extraordinary Companion of the Order of Canada, Extraordinary Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Canadian Forces Decoration, Lord of Her Majesty’s Most Honorable Privy Council, Privy Councillor of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada, Personal Aide-de-Camp to her Majesty,
19:10 <therealazzurro> haha lol hilarious
19:54 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: and Lord High Admiral of the United Kingdom has died aged 99. Pretty good innings.
31:12 <therealazzurro> the lulz were regarding to all of the previous conversation, obviously. not regarding mr. lord high admiral sir.
38:32 <K> that's a paddlin'!
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49:02 <T3sl4> moon pies? what a time to be alive
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28:28 * Ysjoelfir injects Yuzu Tea into T3sl4, K, therealazzurro and Halcyon
28:40 <T3sl4> but i just had tea D:
28:43 <T3sl4> more tea! :D
29:21 <K> ur mad.
29:33 Quit: Numloxx ([email protected]) Quit:
30:50 * T3sl4 quietly swaps K's aqueous infusion for tea oil dissolved in mineral oil
31:11 <Ysjoelfir> xD
31:17 <Ysjoelfir> there is only one thing better than tea
31:19 <Ysjoelfir> more tea!
37:51 * Ampera teabags Ysjoelfir 
38:49 <K> found a filty console peasant!
39:22 <Ampera> newest console I own is a dreamcast
39:23 <T3sl4> pfft, we've been doing that for decades on pc
39:38 <Ampera> it does what it does best
39:40 <Ampera> sits in a drawer
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52:03 * Ysjoelfir has several consoles :D
55:14 * electrohead yawns and coffees
56:08 * Ysjoelfir has some spare yuzu tea.
56:13 * Ysjoelfir injects that into electrohead
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48:40 <therealazzurro> wow just received the BM786 along with some new probemaster 8017S leads. is anyone aware of that probemaster changed the material of the leads in any way?
48:53 <K> pics ?
49:38 <therealazzurro> i've got old 8017S ones and they seem more flexible and the silicone is more of the a little bit sticky type and the new probemaster leads are absolutely non-sticky and don't really feel like silicone
50:06 <therealazzurro> you won't really see anything on a picture, they look the same. the feeling of the material is different
50:13 <therealazzurro> and the old ones seem more flexible
50:29 <K> hm
50:44 <K> i have a 8000 series kit
51:07 <K> but i've managed to fry black tip so was gonna order a pair
51:27 <K> but if they have changed the materials imma be pissed
52:16 <therealazzurro> so you didn't get them yet?
53:13 <K> no, was about to
53:18 <K> (order)
53:40 <therealazzurro> i see
54:27 <K> bought the kit in april of 2019
54:56 <therealazzurro> same here
55:15 <therealazzurro> 8043SK Softie Test Lead Master Kit 120cm
55:30 <therealazzurro> that's what i bought in 07/2019
58:49 <K> yeah same
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