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03:37:07 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/GJ7mGfQ
03:37:07 <Kuschelpony> if i cant sleep again this night, i have now an T106#26 toroid and enough thin wire for about 500 windings
03:37:30 * T3sl4 hugs Kuschelpony
03:37:34 <Kuschelpony> just a fun project, if i can replicate a specic AF filter coil
03:37:51 <T3sl4> but then you'd have 500 turns on a #26 core and what good is that? :P
03:38:33 <Kuschelpony> if i calculated right that should give around 200mH
03:39:26 <Kuschelpony> just trying if i can replicate a historic CW audio filter (originally probably also iron poweder but dont want to finally destroy) for fun and distraction
03:39:29 <T3sl4> i wonder what the Q goes up to in audio frequencies. maybe not too bad. those things tend to be awful in the switching range, Q ~ 10
03:39:38 <Kuschelpony> yep
03:40:09 <Kuschelpony> in audio range, with the original SMPS windings you get a Q around 50 unless you have an cooked out core
03:40:26 <Kuschelpony> but it drops past 10kHz
03:40:51 <T3sl4> a tip, double up the wire so you have fewer turns to go
03:41:03 <T3sl4> or don't, i have no idea how long you intend to notsleep for :P
03:41:15 <Kuschelpony> yep, i think even to quadruple and wind 125*4
03:41:24 <T3sl4> well... intend, i have some idea, but the other thing :P
03:41:56 <Kuschelpony> ideally i plan to have zero hours of no sleep, but the mix of todays weather and some other issues let me look for a plan B
03:42:26 <T3sl4> might as well be productive rather than staring at your phone all night or whatever
03:42:45 <Kuschelpony> i dont even have a phone but take my mini wobbly laptop to bed
03:42:56 <T3sl4> close enough
03:43:39 <Kuschelpony> right
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04:59:42 <hsn> Bifle
05:00:00 <rust_collector> BOOBIES!
05:00:02 <Ysjoelfir> Döner
05:00:08 <rust_collector> ok
05:06:27 <electrohead> \o/
05:10:27 <rust_collector> hmmm, snow
05:10:41 <rust_collector> it is supposed to snow all day tomorrow too
05:16:23 <rust_collector> Weirdo sausage rolled in mustard seeds??? It is not horrible, if you scrape that off
05:17:23 <Ysjoelfir> Nice, I take some as well. The snow I mean
05:17:29 <Ysjoelfir> I can offer rain in exchange
05:18:01 <rust_collector> nah, it is ok, take some snow
05:18:15 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
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05:27:26 * Ysjoelfir takes it all
05:30:47 * T3sl4 gives Ysjoelfir his whole sausage
05:35:09 <Ysjoelfir> woah, what a great day! Döner, Snow AMD sausage!
05:35:38 <rust_collector> amd sausage is very stuff
05:36:12 * electrohead adds mustard to Ysjoelfir's sausage
05:36:13 <Jens> Mmm döner.
05:36:13 <T3sl4> it was overclocked to 2.45GHz
05:41:14 <Jens> Like a genius, I forgot to buy bacon.
05:41:42 <Jens> So no egg cake for dinner, whatever that's called in english.
05:41:51 <T3sl4> i'm bacon your pardon
05:42:00 <T3sl4> quiche?
05:42:04 <rust_collector> egg cake... bacon...
05:42:17 <rust_collector> what is it in french?
05:42:26 <rust_collector> or dutch
05:43:09 <Jens> Basically eggs whisked together with some milk and a little corn starch. Add tomatoes, chives and BACON on top.
05:43:20 <T3sl4> quiiiche?
05:43:21 <Jens> Eat with rye bread.
05:43:38 <rust_collector> sounds ok-ish
05:44:06 <T3sl4> or fritata
05:44:19 <rust_collector> With me being like I am, I would just call it an omelet
05:44:32 <Jens> It's similar yes.
05:45:03 <Jens> Quick duckduckgoing shows quiche has flour in it and is made in an oven.
05:45:19 <Jens> Looks interesting. I'll keep that in mind, even though it sounds french!
05:46:41 <T3sl4> i assume by "cake" you mean it's baked anyway
05:46:50 <T3sl4> in a frying pan that would be an omelette
05:47:35 <Jens> The literal translation from danish is egg cake. I think the difference is an omelette is much thinner.
05:47:46 <Jens> But it is made in a pan.
05:47:48 <rust_collector> danish...
05:48:38 <rust_collector> hmm, ok, they have funny words there
05:48:51 <rust_collector> fedtegreve
05:48:53 <T3sl4> oh, double t because filthy italians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frittata
05:50:18 <Jens> Røgede røde ørreder
05:50:47 <rust_collector> sounds good to me
05:51:02 <rust_collector> I am not that much into smoked trout, but...
05:52:19 <Jens> https://ttsmp3.com/text-to-speech/Danish/ <-- is is actually remarkably accurate in its pronounciation.
05:52:45 <Jens> s/is/it
05:55:09 <rust_collector> Hlææ blææ moubøøaaaæe
05:56:17 <rust_collector> a guy I used to work with, was watching klovn, to learn danish. i guess that is a thing
05:58:58 <rust_collector> I could probably understand danish, if I could just hear wth they are trying to say
05:59:46 <Jens> I feel similarly about german. I can understand most of it when it's spoken clearly at a reasonable pace.
05:59:54 <Jens> Like news readers often do.
06:00:00 <rust_collector> right
06:00:24 <rust_collector> I do pretty well with written danish. so I prefer that, lol
06:00:37 <Jens> What nationality are you?
06:00:45 <rust_collector> norwegian
06:01:03 <Jens> Ah, that makes sense.
06:11:01 <Ysjoelfir> I heard that danish sounds like norwegian or swedish, but spoken while having a boiling hot potato in the mouth
06:11:22 <rust_collector> pretty much
06:11:51 <rust_collector> that, and skipping half of every 3rd word
06:12:52 <Jens> That is accurate.
06:13:57 <Ysjoelfir> I still like the way the danes build their highway entry lanes.
06:15:49 <Ysjoelfir> like having 3, 4, 500 meters of the highway and the entry parallel, only divided by a few meters of dirty white lines and roadkill, so that you have enough time to see if there is someone and where you can find a place to enter.
06:16:53 <rust_collector> waste of space. you should never have more than 40m
06:17:37 <Ysjoelfir> not like out german ones, coming from a (usually) very slow turn, having to cross lanes with people who want to exit, having 50cm concrete or steel fences for 20 meters between the highway and the entry and then having like 40 meters where you have to speed up from 40 to 100 and find a place to enter.
06:21:41 <Jens> You're taught that you *must* accellerate your vehice to whatever speed you're supposed to be going before merging.
06:22:24 <Jens> Lots of people don't, and they should be euthanised.
06:22:32 <Ysjoelfir> jep, I agree
06:22:42 <rust_collector> they should at least look like they are trying, imo
06:24:53 <rust_collector> heh, I wonder if the heads on this thing are glued on or something. they are not even trying to move a little bit
06:25:40 <Ysjoelfir> which thing are you trying to destroy?
06:26:01 <rust_collector> the old volvo/mercruiser/chevrolet
06:27:08 <rust_collector> it does look like it has been built pretty well, actually. nicely balanced, and it has a vindage tray and stuff. and it is almost spotless inside.
06:27:26 <rust_collector> the outside looks like crap, with 34 layers of flaking paint
06:28:20 <rust_collector> it has a borked rod bearing on cylinder #1. we will see what we can do to it
06:29:23 <Ysjoelfir> nice. do you want to continue deborking on my engine as well?
06:29:32 <rust_collector> it is on the smaller side, for the boat, so I think I want to bump it up a little bit.
06:29:49 <rust_collector> humm, is it doing things?
06:31:38 <Ysjoelfir> Well.. its getting warmer again, so its not knocking anymore for a few seconds after start. but its still loosing oil. I thought about finding a motor repair shop and let them rebuild it completely.
06:32:20 <rust_collector> you mean it is leaking, or using oil?
06:32:37 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, it run just 470Mm, so it should definitely be worth it?
06:32:40 <Ysjoelfir> it is leaking.
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06:32:54 <Ysjoelfir> rear seal.
06:33:36 <rust_collector> ok. that should be doable. 230ft, was it?
06:34:28 <Ysjoelfir> yep
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06:44:34 <rust_collector> so, I would think a set of bearings and a regasket of the whole thing. if it is not burning oil, I think I would leave the head alone
06:45:15 <rust_collector> I guess we could just do the bottom end. the head gasket if probably fine
06:47:12 <Ysjoelfir> it should be fine. at least it works fine and I don't have the impression that it burns oil. or "burns" water.
06:47:55 <rust_collector> well, let he ask the parts people what we can get for it
06:48:21 <rust_collector> it may or may not need a different computer, for the second turbo
06:48:52 <Ysjoelfir> lol
06:49:33 <rust_collector> it is a bit annoying that I traded my old new turbo, a while ago. that would fit nicely on that thing.
06:50:06 <rust_collector> should be ok as long as you did not want more than 550-600 hp out of it
06:50:16 <rust_collector> oh well
06:50:53 <Ysjoelfir> hey, that could shrink the car over time, having that much thrust on the rear axle :D
06:51:22 <rust_collector> well, the axle shafts on those things do work as fuses...
06:51:48 * electrohead thrusts Ysjoelfir's rear axle
06:52:14 <Ysjoelfir> xD
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07:06:47 * Ampera was playing Skat
07:06:52 <Ampera> is fun
07:07:46 <rust_collector> fun is ok
07:10:18 * Ampera hugs rust_collector
07:10:21 <Ampera> ok is ok
07:10:25 <Ampera> and I am
07:10:27 <Ampera> o
07:10:29 <Ampera> k
07:10:34 <rust_collector> k
07:10:36 <Ampera> HAHAHAHA
07:10:38 <Ampera> I am ok
07:10:42 <Ampera> HEEEEEEE
07:10:44 <Ampera> ok
07:11:11 <rust_collector> ok...
07:11:33 <rust_collector> so, we were discussing danish and sausage, I think?
07:11:40 <rust_collector> no, egg cake
07:18:16 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeee
07:18:57 <rust_collector> danish turbos, hot potatoes,
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07:35:12 <rust_collector> well, as you are ok, I am going to bed. have fun
07:36:18 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy your nap
07:39:18 <steve30> i seem too awake for sleeping
07:40:24 <Ysjoelfir> You could join mrs. spouse, she has the same problem. come over here, watch talkshows with her, while I can than finally go to bed
07:42:11 <steve30> I'd rather watch bigclive
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07:52:55 <hsn> Talkshows where they show themselves talking?
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08:21:28 <Ysjoelfir> more like... 2 to 6 people sitting in a circle talking about controversial topics
08:22:22 <steve30> There'll be a steve30 talky video in the foreseeable future if I can be bothered to take my camera out tomorrow.
08:30:34 <Ysjoelfir> nice, I am looking forward to that :D but first, I'll be in bed now. gn8 all
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08:57:32 * electrohead offers 11.7% beer
09:04:25 <T3sl4> yum
09:04:40 * T3sl4 puts a cake of ramen noodles on electro's head
09:06:45 <T3sl4> i had a one of these earlier https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/448/ and a "oyster" ramen just now, with green onions and mushrooms added
09:07:19 <coppice> T3sl4: is this a tidy cake, or does it display noodly appendages?
09:07:42 <T3sl4> it's no egg cake, i'll give you that
09:08:39 <coppice> I love fresh ramen, cooked straight from pulling them
09:09:58 <T3sl4> like those machines that strip off bits of a block of dough into a boiling pot
09:10:53 <coppice> the best ramen is hand pulled
09:11:24 <T3sl4> i can think of something else that is, too
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09:13:07 <T3sl4> smps smps smps smps smps smps
09:17:31 <arch> T3sl4, https://media1.tenor.com/images/904438862092a6f17d27d30450269d65/tenor.gif
09:18:11 <T3sl4> are you simpsing to me?
09:20:02 <electrohead> T3sl4: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/220/68269/
09:20:06 <electrohead> that's the one I just had
09:20:14 <electrohead> had one, and .. I'm good for a bit, heh
09:20:24 <Halcyon> Morninnnng
09:20:37 <T3sl4> yikes
09:21:05 * T3sl4 smothers Halcyon in pine needles and hops
09:21:13 <Halcyon> Pointy
09:22:55 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
09:22:58 <Halcyon> \o/
09:23:05 <Halcyon> I have to go to work in a bit :(
09:23:08 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
09:23:11 <Ampera> nice
09:23:14 <Ampera> have fun
09:23:16 <Halcyon> Nooo
09:23:22 <Halcyon> I want more days off
09:23:23 <Ampera> <3
09:23:57 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon's days to Ampera
09:24:33 <Halcyon> P
09:25:00 <Halcyon> No
09:25:01 <Halcyon> Mine
09:25:40 <T3sl4> mine.gif
09:27:31 <arch> https://imgur.com/a/2gwz3Zy
09:27:50 <Halcyon> Hahahahahah
09:27:56 <Halcyon> Pretty much
09:28:50 <arch> feels like i need no compensation at all! ...no compensation at all!.......stupid sexy mc34063
09:29:03 <Halcyon> Stupid sexy Flanders
09:29:04 <Halcyon> Haha
09:31:08 <rust_collector> morning!
09:31:32 <rust_collector> what a nice day to have some egg cake for breakfast
09:31:39 <Halcyon> Egg cake?
09:31:45 <rust_collector> yes
09:31:52 <arch> i should make a dedicated section on my site just dedicated to T3sl4 memes
09:32:33 <rust_collector> well, it is modified, so it has onion and potatoes and cheese, and sausages and egg
09:39:17 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
09:41:25 <rust_collector> WU TANG! WU TANG!
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09:49:02 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/FiCBlts.png
09:50:14 <arch> i dont get it
09:50:24 <arch> TO-220FP...what about it
09:57:11 <arch> anyone of you folks have an electric chainsaw?
09:57:20 <arch> im thinking of buying one
09:57:33 <arch> getting tired of gasoline chainsaw, cranking the fucking wire, and refilling gas tanks
10:02:35 <T3sl4> someone called it a dope azz mosfet idk
10:03:05 <T3sl4> get a usb chainsaw
10:03:36 <arch> yes. so i can cut twigs with it. good idea
10:03:44 <arch> or toothpicks
10:04:31 <arch> you know you're poor when you set $5 as a billing alarm on AWS...times are tough man
10:04:56 <arch> i spent $6 on a custom inductor the other day, and now i will starve
10:15:10 <arch> T3sl4, know how slope comp decreases the current limit? what if you used a smaller isense resistor, then added slope comp? wouldn't that reduce the power dissipated by the isense resistor, and still allow fine tuning the current lim?
10:15:41 <T3sl4> sure
10:15:42 <arch> smaller as in smaller value isense resistor
10:15:47 <T3sl4> or make it a voltage divider
10:16:03 <arch> but there has to be a catch, right?
10:16:06 <T3sl4> i did that on the 4 leds thing, on the channels that needed it
10:16:38 <T3sl4> shunt R, series R to isense (3843), pullup from vref to isense, pulldown to gnd, pullup to slope comp (emitter follower from RC)
10:17:11 <T3sl4> vref pullup also steals mV's without doing anything to the slope, same idea to reduce shunt
10:17:23 <T3sl4> tho i didn't actually use any on that one
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10:18:11 <T3sl4> i should write a js calculator for that. weighted average of resistors
10:18:14 <arch> cool. that's good to know
10:18:28 <T3sl4> tho maybe it's the same as my 3 resistor 2 input divider, idk
10:18:49 <T3sl4> i wrote the solution for it as a weighted average, maybe helpful that way instead
10:18:58 <T3sl4> might add that onto the existing one, hmm
10:19:12 <arch> glad to know i created more work for you :3
10:19:23 <T3sl4> well no, i did that weeks ago
10:19:33 <arch> i knew that. i was just reminding you
10:19:51 <arch> :3
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10:26:42 <arch> drawing up a quick schematic to see if i can find what you did
10:30:47 <arch> T3sl4, something like this? https://i.imgur.com/JqL1US3.png
10:31:42 <T3sl4> arch: not quite. move R? to between the shunt and R? and R?, and add a resistor from Q? emitter to CS
10:32:11 <arch> lol, confused about the R? parts
10:32:16 <arch> let me set values on them
10:33:06 <T3sl4> wouldn't it be more descriptive to... y'know..... put designators on them instead?
10:33:26 <arch> right, thats what i mean
10:34:49 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/LEkafAI.png
10:34:59 <arch> i think i got it correctly now
10:35:45 <T3sl4> R5 to CS, not shunt
10:35:52 * Ampera sneezes
10:36:22 * T3sl4 wafts mushrooms under Ampera's nose
10:36:32 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/MCoYRQT.png
10:36:42 <T3sl4> yeee
10:36:51 <arch> 3rd time's the charm i guess lol
10:36:54 * Ampera eats the mysterious fungus
10:37:03 * Ampera sneezes rainbows
10:37:38 <arch> so, realistically speaking, for how low of a value of shunt resistor would this "trick" work? because the 3843 has a pretty high 1V isense trigger
10:37:55 <arch> i imagine very low isense values would suffer from noise issues no?
10:38:00 <arch> too much SNR
10:38:24 <T3sl4> i wouldn't suggest raising the min threshold range to more than say 800mV
10:38:54 * arch puts down UC3843 SEPIC for a future project
10:38:54 <T3sl4> note that it's reducing the err amp range too, so the compensation values will need to be lower impedance
10:39:33 <arch> i think sepic is now my new waifu topology. sorry flyback-chan =(
10:40:04 <T3sl4> it's just flyback-chan with bigger boobs and a 1:1 ratio between them
10:40:07 <arch> well, my second waifu, right after T3sl4
10:40:14 <T3sl4> err i mean bigger capacitors, between the windings y'know
10:40:27 <arch> yuh huh, suuure ;)
10:41:05 <arch> here's an idea: an anime...about...wait for it...power supply topologies!
10:41:18 <arch> how to make the new generation of engineers
10:41:32 <arch> im telling ya, there would be HUUUGE progress thanks to engineer weebs
10:41:53 * arch notes down suggestion to hand over to Kadokawa Studios
10:42:56 <arch> if there's anime about blood cells, and anime about soda cans, and anime about transforming cars and trucks...why not transforming power supplies? damn..i would be rich if i knew how to draw
10:44:49 <T3sl4> black hole chan
10:45:09 <T3sl4> a multiwinding transformer would look nice as a sexy tentaclepus
10:45:21 <arch> lol i can imagine that
10:50:58 <Ampera> you people are fucked
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11:20:13 <arch> Ampera, https://pm1.narvii.com/6586/0653f57200852075863100533834ee1b17abe565_hq.jpg
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11:31:14 <T3sl4> gdi
11:39:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Do yourself a favour and listen to @xjet and myself discuss DIY cruise missles and other stuff on the latest @TheAmpHour https://t.co/QIEJ7EjxCq
11:42:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: It has a pin labeled BAGEL. And GND and VCC are swapped. Some people just want to watch the world burn. Pun intended. https://t.co/0TV3tl3iYA :Which was quoting: The Amp Hour Podcast: This deserves to be the chip of the week: A fully integrated toaster controller for $0.79 that you can buy from Digi-Key https://t.co/Rmx28b1dRR
12:05:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Re: the toaster chip. I once turned down a job as a toaster designer (among other things). True story.
12:28:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oh wow, they actually opened the Las Vegas "Loop"? LOL It HAS to be a deliberate troll, surely? https://t.co/w9C1Yp1ee4
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12:40:15 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/14r3f8jrv3c61.jpg
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13:15:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Someone didn't think I'd get many days of the 80% of my rated 5kW power @1kW/sqm (Enphase inverters are 295W rated on 370W panels). I knew different. So I anlysed the data from my old 3kW system over 1980 days. There are 38.8% of days that peak over 80% of the rated power. YMMV. https://t.co/SbxUsqa0Kb
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13:17:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: What this means is that for my new 5kW LG system (14 x 370W) in Sydney I can expect those 295W peak Enphase inverters to output power clip on, let's say, around one third of the days every year.
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16:06:34 <steve30> o/
16:08:24 <Watcher> hello steve30
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16:22:55 <MrMobodies> Hello
16:23:09 <MrMobodies> Youtube predictions seem to be getting better
16:23:19 <MrMobodies> recommending videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j544ELauus
16:23:40 <MrMobodies> and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzvmrqSEhu4
16:23:53 <MrMobodies> seems to more to my taste
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17:26:58 <K> hello radishes
17:40:31 <Seng> I need a few pointers for further research. I want to make a binary clock (without using a MC). I have my clock crystal, resonator and divider and 1Hz signal. I have a binary counter and all is good. But seconds doesn't go from 0-8. They go from 1-9. How would one archive this plus one?
17:44:03 <Seng> What I've been thinking to do is that after resetting after it reaches 10 send an extra pulse to count to 1.
17:53:26 <Ysjoelfir> hello cabbage K and everyone else :D
18:00:42 <Ysjoelfir> So I got up, its all nice and silent, started one of my most beloved game soundtracks to start working in peace..... and then the stupid neighbors start going at their fence with angle grinders again! -.-
18:00:52 <Ysjoelfir> can't wait for the pressure washer to come out...
18:01:04 <Ysjoelfir> this soundtrack, btw... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvpi-6Z6qw&list=PL747E3997A25A9FF6
18:03:28 <Seng> Never mind. My question is silly. I can't count (:
18:04:58 <K> what was wrong?
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18:36:19 <Seng> K, seconds *do* go from 0 to 9 (:
18:37:04 <Seng> I was just so focused finding a solution to a non-existing problem that I didn't stop to think.
18:38:24 <K> yea, your requirement seemed a bit strange
18:38:35 <K> "oh, what clock is that, i wonder"
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19:07:54 <Seng> An idiot clock, apparently :D
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19:22:01 <Seng> Yay, just got a text that my new multimeter has been delivered at home <3
19:23:12 <Ysjoelfir> aw, I had hoped you would have made an error and gave them my adress
19:23:30 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I have like..... 30 multimeters, but you can never have enough, right?
19:23:47 <Seng> Can't wait to get home, prepare dinner, feed the kids, tuck them to bed, clean up after dinner, spend some time with the wife, unpack the multimeter and fall asleep over the table :D
19:24:35 <K> #lifegoals
19:28:26 <Seng> It's a AN8008. I know - it's cheap and chinese - but it's to replace my DT-830b, so it's an upgrade no matter :))
19:28:57 <Ysjoelfir> ah. ok, I have that one already. so its fine, you can have it. no need to be sorry. :P
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19:41:12 <Seng> I'm still sorry my fat fingers didn't mistype my address and sent you your 31st MM. You were likely in more need than me! I mean, the DT-830b is an ehmm.. multimeter.
19:41:34 <Seng> (and one of the probe wires snapped, which is what forced me into buying an upgrade)
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20:03:34 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
20:03:54 <Ysjoelfir> Maybe I should consider spending one of mine to the less fortunate* ones
20:04:11 <Ysjoelfir> *saiys the unemployed engineer who can barely manage to keep his wife fed :P
20:04:19 <Ysjoelfir> *says
20:05:59 <endre> fed wife = happy wife
20:06:05 <endre> happy wife = happy family
20:07:05 <Ysjoelfir> well... almost. produce offsprings didn't work out yet, so fed wife = not overly depressed wife, since no family ¬= happy wife.
20:07:31 <Ysjoelfir> but thats better than having grumpy cat at my side for sure :P
20:26:53 <Ysjoelfir> so... whats everyone up to?
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20:38:03 <Seng> At work, making money to feed my wife.
20:41:35 <Ysjoelfir> cool. I am at home, working for my self employment to feed the spouse and myself. lets build a club!
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20:50:19 <Seng> Club let's-slack-on-IRC-during-work-hours! :D
20:51:44 <Ysjoelfir> Actually I have used IRC while working for some years now, and I have to say that it was very valueable in many cases. We have very knowledgeable people here that can help in many situations where finding a solution could have taken hours googling otherwise
20:52:38 <K> and emotional support!
20:56:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes. K is also known as "mr. cuddles" to some who know him better :3
21:02:16 <Ampera> There's two types of people on IRC.
21:02:22 <Ampera> Those who slack off on company time
21:02:32 <Ampera> and those who have a salary
21:03:34 <K> a dirty word!
21:03:46 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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21:28:37 <rust_collector> hey people
21:28:48 <Ysjoelfir> hello peop
21:29:27 <K> poeple
21:29:51 <steve30> hi
21:29:58 <rust_collector> HELLO!
21:30:10 <Ampera> HAAAAAAAAAA
21:30:16 <Ysjoelfir> hello steve30
21:30:51 <rust_collector> hey ok Ampera
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21:32:04 <Ampera> hey rust_collector how
21:32:07 <Ampera> just how
21:32:23 <rust_collector> pretty
21:32:32 <Ampera> that's
21:32:38 <rust_collector> OK!
21:32:38 <Ysjoelfir> in
21:32:48 <Ampera> alrigh
21:38:17 <K> allgirth
21:39:28 <Ampera> GIRTH
21:40:02 <K> Magnus Allgirth
21:40:03 * Ampera gives T3sl4 gifts of frankincense, myrrh, and GIRTH
21:43:27 <Ysjoelfir> the heck is girth?
21:43:44 <rust_collector> it is nice
21:43:57 <Ampera> indeed it is
21:44:07 <Ampera> for those who possess its immense qualities
21:44:07 <Ampera> such as
21:44:09 <Ampera> GIRTH
21:44:10 <Ampera> and
21:44:14 <Ampera> g iR th
21:45:08 <K> girthy
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21:49:21 <Ysjoelfir> :O K died of girthyness
21:50:32 <Ampera> that's how I wish to die some day
21:52:00 <Seng> Ysjoelfir, I've multiple times half jokingly (but seriously wanted to) suggested IRC as the team chat at my previous two companies. But sLaCK hAs mOrE fEaTuReS!
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21:52:27 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea what slack is, but we had IRC as the chat in my last company
21:52:40 <rust_collector> Seng now you have to make them explain why they need more features
21:52:54 <Ampera> IRC has a shit ton of problems for companies.
21:53:00 <Ysjoelfir> and if my self employed thing someday grows to more than just me I will certrainly have IRC as the main medium :P
21:53:01 <Ampera> Teams and Slack are also terrible platforms
21:53:13 <Ampera> but at least they have features like a chat history
21:53:40 <Seng> Ampera, I use a bouncer, so I have pretty much all the history I'll ever need :)(
21:53:58 <K> we use slack for work
21:54:08 <K> i find it quite reasonable for that purpose
21:54:10 <Ampera> You need a bouncer, a weechat client, an ssh tunnel into a weechat client on your phone
21:54:22 <Ampera> there's no file sharing (it exists but has been broken on modern firewalls forever)
21:54:26 <Seng> I don't need link previews, gifs and calls. I don't need to be sending images directly in my chat when there are so many easy alternatives.
21:54:29 <Ampera> thus no image sharing
21:54:55 <Ampera> perhaps not a feature of Slack until recently, but platforms such as Teams are quite important for VoIP meetings and screen sharing
21:54:56 <Seng> But HexChat currently only occupies 17MB of RAM and 0% CPU.
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21:55:31 <Ampera> Trust me, I've been /that guy/ who said we should all use IRC on team projects before.
21:55:34 <Ampera> It /never/ ended well
21:55:36 <K> calls and screen sharing is nice
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21:56:30 <Ampera> I may detest Team's eating of an entire gigabyte of my system memory, but at least I don't need half a server worth of infrastructure just to use it reliably
21:56:45 <Ampera> and have crazy shit like push notifications
21:57:17 <rust_collector> this makes me so happy about not needing any computer thing to do my job. and I do not really have to talk to people at work either.
21:57:36 <Ampera> rust_collector, sounds like a nice job
21:57:51 <rust_collector> it has its upsides
21:57:56 <Ampera> hopefully we stop using Teams so fucking much when the vaccine kicks in and we can all go back to work
21:58:45 <rust_collector> I hope people go back to work a bit less often.
22:00:21 <rust_collector> I did not know there were so many people just sitting in an office for no reason. But yea, when this halfass-lockdown started, driving to the city was really nice.
22:02:01 <Ampera> it's dumb though
22:02:07 <Ampera> I've literally never met most of my coworkers in person
22:04:45 <Seng> Currently the office I'm at is physically too small for the amount of employees we are. So I don't hope everyone gets back to work :b
22:05:25 <Ampera> Our office is pretty nice, but the most important part is the people.
22:05:49 <Ampera> I'd hate to live my life continuing to only ever know people through lines on a screen and an occasional hazy video call
22:06:01 <rust_collector> I just don't think everyone needs to go to some office every day.
22:09:56 <rust_collector> especially now that they run teams on coffee machines
22:29:00 <steve30> Did someone mention coffee :p
22:29:01 <steve30> ?
22:29:41 <rust_collector> Not as such, but when you see my name there, you can assume that coffee
22:32:56 <K> girth was mentioned several times, steve30
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23:32:32 <Halcyon> Evening all
23:32:38 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
23:33:02 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon his girth
23:34:09 <Halcyon> Question
23:34:28 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
23:34:33 * Ampera girths T3sl4 in the face
23:34:43 <Halcyon> I had the electricians here today to install more solar and battery system. Now all of a sudden my 3-phase A/C is tripping the circuit breaker after about 15 minutes
23:34:49 <Halcyon> What would have changed to cause that?
23:34:57 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
23:34:58 <Ampera> installing solar panels and batteries
23:35:19 <Halcyon> Yeh but aren't typical circuit breakers an over-current protection?
23:35:28 <Ampera> usually
23:35:41 <Halcyon> So what would change with the power draw?
23:35:46 <T3sl4> you'd think they'd cancel each other out, or have no effect if they're on separate branches (which i hope they are)
23:36:02 <Halcyon> Seperate branches?
23:36:20 <T3sl4> circuits?
23:36:24 <T3sl4> breakers?
23:36:26 <Halcyon> I have no idea how it all connects, but there are 3 phases coming into the house and the air conditioner uses all three of them
23:36:37 <Halcyon> Yes the A/C has it's own dedicated 3-pole breaker
23:36:38 <T3sl4> all your phases are belong to AC
23:36:55 <Halcyon> That's the one that's tripping
23:36:58 <T3sl4> someone set us up the arc.
23:37:21 <Halcyon> ?
23:37:29 <T3sl4> maybe your AC is just fucky? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:37:34 <coppice> so, 18dB per octave filtering
23:37:52 <Halcyon> It's less than 5 years old and was literally working fine this morning before the electicians were here
23:37:55 <Halcyon> Now it is not fine
23:38:15 <Ampera> call them back
23:38:27 <Halcyon> Oh they are coming back tomorrow anyway, the job wasn't finished today
23:39:21 <Halcyon> I just can't think what they could have changed to cause that to start tripping
23:39:26 <Halcyon> It makes no sense to me
23:39:48 <Ampera> I can think of a handful of things that could cause something like that, how likely they are is well beyond my nonexistent expertise
23:40:10 <Halcyon> I mean maybe if a cable is loose and is arcing?
23:40:12 <Halcyon> MAYBE?
23:40:32 <Halcyon> It would be drawing something like 20 or 30 Amps
23:40:42 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://frinkiac.com/video/S11E16/Qyp9AG4ViGcBW50wXnvQzt3JYW8=.gif
23:40:44 <Halcyon> @ 415v
23:40:46 <steve30> Did they change the breakers?
23:40:49 <Ampera> if you're using a three phase inverter as part of the supply, if it's fucky
23:41:03 <Halcyon> Inverter is single phase
23:41:21 <Halcyon> But the incoming supply from the PV/Batteries shouldn't matter
23:41:30 <Ampera> then it's probably not part of the aircon circuit
23:41:51 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm not sure how it all works, I'll ask tomorrow
23:42:05 <Ampera> no clue if something like a missing phase could do that, with the motor taking power out of the other two phases and tripping the breaker
23:42:08 <K> ask for a schematic
23:42:18 <Halcyon> Nah one missing phase causes the entire system to shutdown
23:42:22 <Halcyon> Not trip the breaker
23:42:25 * steve30 's ACs are plugged in to BS1363 sockets :)
23:42:42 <Halcyon> I'm hoping it's just a loose terminal
23:42:46 * T3sl4 distracts steve30 with a coffee over there ---->
23:42:59 * steve30 pounces over to the coffee
23:43:01 <T3sl4> my best guess is they bumped something while they were in the panel
23:43:16 <Halcyon> Quite possibly
23:43:17 <T3sl4> just checking screws and reseating breakers mebbe
23:43:26 * rust_collector splashes coffee in Halcyons breaker box
23:43:35 <Halcyon> Coffee doesn't go there rust_collector
23:43:36 <T3sl4> rust_collector: good idea, that'll keep it warm
23:43:41 <Halcyon> That's how things go rusty
23:43:41 <Ampera> ^
23:43:46 <Ampera> good
23:43:52 <Ampera> he collects rust, you know
23:43:54 <rust_collector> I like it like that
23:44:01 <Halcyon> Yeh, you do
23:44:14 * T3sl4 pours a fresh brew of rainwater off his car
23:45:14 <T3sl4> with every rainfall, it grows browner :)
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23:45:35 <Ampera> brown is the best color
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23:45:51 <K> brown is the colour of surprise!
23:45:57 <K> true surprise!
23:46:07 <rust_collector> it is still snowing here, just a tiny bit.
23:46:07 <Halcyon> Usually not a nice surprise though?
23:46:09 <T3sl4> the reason the french army wears pants of that color!
23:46:24 <T3sl4> Halcyon: a surprising surprise, to be sure
23:46:28 <Ampera> that's just to hide the shitstains from fleeing
23:46:56 <Halcyon> Hah
23:50:20 <rust_collector> talking about shitstains... model: Intel Celeron N3060
23:51:23 <rust_collector> it is not quick
23:51:32 <Halcyon> Was there ever a good Celeron?
23:52:02 <T3sl4> that was the entire point, wasn't it?
23:52:42 <Halcyon> Cheap and nasty
23:52:47 <rust_collector> System Temperatures: cpu: 6280.0 C well, try that with your fancy amd or xeon things... no wonder this is slow
23:53:56 <T3sl4> nice
23:54:22 <Ampera> Celerons aren't that bad, they're reasonably low power and performant compared to ARM chips with similar software support
23:54:25 <T3sl4> the meme back in the day was cooking an egg on one, nice to see we'd improved them to the point of welding instead
23:54:34 <Ampera> most of them will beat the shit out of a Pi 4
23:54:44 * T3sl4 instruction decodes Ampera
23:54:56 * Ampera revs up a Pentium D, burns T3sl4 with it
23:55:12 * T3sl4 gigglehurts
23:55:34 <rust_collector> I think it is one of the modern-ish intel naming things. the name does not really mean much, unless you have the model number too
23:55:48 <Ampera> the model number doesn't mean much either
23:55:57 <Ampera> Pentium, Celeron, and i3 are all pretty much the same thing
23:56:04 <rust_collector> maybe not, but you can look it up, I guess
23:56:09 <Ampera> even i5's and i7's can be slower than some desktop Pentiums
23:56:22 <rust_collector> that was my point
23:56:33 <Ampera> like the dual core i7 in my work laptop which has all the speed and grace of a gazelle with no legs
23:56:55 <rust_collector> flomp flomp flomp across the savanna
23:57:18 <T3sl4> i'm imagining some cyriak abomination
23:57:49 <Ampera> cyriak's animations are cute
23:58:25 <Halcyon> I should go to bed soon, it's almost midnight
23:58:33 <Halcyon> And I have been on my feet for most of the day
23:58:51 <rust_collector> I should go to work soon, it is almost midnight in australian
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