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25:30 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
25:30 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
25:30 <rust_collector> I would like to get a battery for the old netbook. it is just such a neat little machine
25:30 <rust_collector> and... it still works, lol
25:30 <hsn> rusty, time is relative..
25:30 <rust_collector> yes?
25:30 <hsn> ur 5 hours is different than battery 5 hours
25:30 <hsn> electrons moving ..
25:30 <rust_collector> but it did use to last almost 5 hours. it is like it does not update its data any more
25:30 <hsn> so software issue?
25:30 <rust_collector> maybe...
25:30 <hsn> oh.. it did used to do .. ok
25:30 <hsn> yeah .. i ve same issue with my phone + laptop
25:30 <rust_collector> I guess I should charge it all the way up, start it and go into the bios, and just let it run until it shuts off, charge it back up, and see if it sets some new data in there
25:30 <hsn> phones bqtteries are hard to replace nowadays
25:30 <rust_collector> yeah. my previous phone had glass on the front and back, glued on
25:30 <rust_collector> not very easy to take apart
25:30 <rust_collector> but the screen broke, so that was not a big issue
25:30 <rust_collector> I think it lasted about 3 weeks
25:30 <hsn> hmm
25:30 <rust_collector> which was annoying, as it was a pretty nice phone, imo
25:30 <hsn> my last phone was pregnant
25:30 <hsn> the battery get expanded and the screen was bended outside
25:30 <rust_collector> I still have that phone somewhere. I wonder what a new screen cost for that one now
25:30 <hsn> sry im fallinf to sleep
25:30 <hsn> gn
25:30 <rust_collector> so should I. because I have to wake you up, so you can go to my job tomorrow
25:30 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, do you want to come with me to bahrain, and kick hsns router off the roof?
25:30 <rust_collector> well, his works router
25:30 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely!
25:30 <rust_collector> ok, be there by 7:45 tomorrow
25:30 <rust_collector> oh, I get a package tomorrow, you can go do that....
25:30 <Ysjoelfir> I'm also still waiting for a packet
25:30 <rust_collector> I wonder how they packaged this, because it is an o2 sensor, and they say it is 5kg
25:30 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
25:30 <rust_collector> yep
25:30 <rust_collector> we will see
25:30 <rust_collector> well, nap time... have fun
25:30 <rust_collector> good natta
25:30 <Ysjoelfir> sleep well
25:31 <rust_collector> I doubt it, but... you too
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25:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: The Amp Hour Podcast: This week on the show, @eevblog interviews Andrea Morello of @QuantumC2T, based out of @UNSW. They discuss the past, present and future of #QuantumComputing. https://t.co/APm2X4foLB https://t.co/7lYoq7FePO
25:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Well that had to happen eventually, just locked myself out of the lab. Was placing DHL packages outside for pickup and heard that sound of a door latching...
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09:13 <hsn> rusty dont kick router .. save a kick for a day u need it :>
55:03 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Changing hosts
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55:42 <Ysjoelfir> xD
55:45 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
55:46 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
55:55 <hsn> hello ysjoelfir
56:00 <Ysjoelfir> so hsn, did rusty reach it, or could you make him not kick it?
56:23 <hsn> i think he got busy with the 5kg sensor
56:24 <hsn> :P
56:51 <Ysjoelfir> :O
56:59 <Ysjoelfir> did it arrive?
57:20 <steve30> hi
57:27 <Ysjoelfir> hi stevie
57:29 <hsn> hi steve
57:48 <hsn> hmm, idk
42:57 <rust_collector> bastard airport stupid.. aggggrrrrggggmmm
43:05 <Ysjoelfir> hmm?
43:06 <rust_collector> mornings
43:09 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
43:55 <rust_collector> ok, so I am not allowed to go to anywhere in the away region of the world, as I am not full of religion or something
44:37 <rust_collector> but ok, I will send a mail bomb to hsns boss, with instructions to put it close to the router
46:05 <rust_collector> so, any paint skills you want to show off today?
48:39 <rust_collector> I took a video of driving thru oslo today. it is not as interesting, or in focus as hsns videos
00:18 <Ysjoelfir> yes, those airports are a pita :P No paint skill today, yet. Maybe later, when the sky looks nice again, and not only grey.
00:25 <Ysjoelfir> And share the video :P We are nosy!
01:57 <rust_collector> it is doing stuff, it says. I guess it has to process for about 20 minutes, before it says I have to choose a different video
02:50 <rust_collector> driving thru oslo is one of the most boring things you can do, unless you take the smaller roads, and streets
04:19 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
04:53 <rust_collector> so, there was a bread on top of the bread box... I looked in the box, and there was a bread there! but it was full of mold... so I looked at the bread on top of the box, and.. it was full of mold
05:47 <rust_collector> I am a bit curious about how video from the phone looks.
06:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol. sounds like you have a slight issue with your breadbox :P isn't it supposed to reduce mold?
07:01 <rust_collector> maybe, if people would stop putting the bread in plastic bags
07:11 <Ysjoelfir> I hate that
07:14 <hsn> r u uploading that video
07:36 <rust_collector> it has said 95% processed for a while now
08:00 <rust_collector> I feel it will wait a while longer, and give me an error message of some kind
08:04 <hsn> a percentage that doesnt move isnt progress percentage ..
08:28 <hsn> also morning
08:52 <rust_collector> it does not say a thing about progress, so that could be correct
09:02 <rust_collector> and "morning"
20:40 <hsn> probably that server is fat .. if it doesnt move ..
23:08 <rust_collector> yeh, I will just do this one more time, and micro-dos google
26:43 <rust_collector> ok, this time it is stuck at 0%
26:51 <rust_collector> that is pretty efficient
27:34 <Ysjoelfir> xD
31:14 <rust_collector> BOOM! 99%
31:26 <Ysjoelfir> woah!
33:43 <rust_collector> any... hour now
37:41 <hsn> ^ the whole idea of "progress bar" is just violated
37:51 <hsn> lol
38:04 <rust_collector> who said anything about progress bar?
38:18 <hsn> progress percentage .. ?
39:26 <rust_collector> it says xx% processed. I guess they just skipped having any message about the IT guy being out to lunch, and it is north chinese new years
46:09 <hsn> u see ? thats why microsoft uses "we are working on it" progress indication ^^ halcyon
46:56 <rust_collector> yeah, but microsoft is probably actually working on the whatever
49:01 <Ysjoelfir> Just digging through the moderation reports topic in eevblog. I am... once again kind of... irritated how someone like dave can behave like he does. take a look at this post please. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/moderation-reports/msg2934132/#msg2934132
49:48 <Ysjoelfir> is it just me or does that read like "I don't care about justice. I decide what gets banned/closed/deleted/whatevered, if you have a problem with that just go fuck yourself"?
49:57 Join: Lemon ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
50:04 <Lemon> hiiiii
50:47 <rust_collector> uhm. Ysjoelfir I think you are mixing up things here. daves forum is not a democracy
51:02 <Ysjoelfir> I absolutely know that
51:04 <Lemon> addup peeps
51:04 <Ysjoelfir> but
51:06 <rust_collector> hi lemon
51:08 <Ysjoelfir> hi lemon
51:14 <Lemon> hi lemon
51:17 <Lemon> :D
51:42 <rust_collector> le hi
51:59 <Lemon> I received three of those silver mica caps, they took ages lol
52:07 <Lemon> and damn, they are much small than expected !
52:25 <rust_collector> 99%...still
52:51 <Ysjoelfir> but what I criticise is: even if its YOUR forum and YOU are basically the monach... is is a good thing to split your community, clearly stating that you don't care about equality? if a discussion derails there are always at least two people at fault. sure, one can be "faultier" than the others, but is that a reason not to "sue" both?
53:13 <rust_collector> yea
53:18 <Lemon> what drama did I miss ?
53:19 <rust_collector> that takes time
53:26 <Ysjoelfir> you know, even a monarchist with a good intention can very quickly become a little hitler?
53:51 <rust_collector> don't make fun of his hair... it is not nice
53:55 <Ysjoelfir> XD
54:48 <rust_collector> be a good little hitler, and...
54:53 <Lemon> what did I misssss
55:15 <hsn> ysjoelfir, but its against rules topic .. and the process of dealing with it is not automated so he doesnt want to have same response to it all the time.. ?
55:16 <rust_collector> don't you read the forum?
55:54 <Lemon> well I usually read the metrology section thats all
55:58 <Lemon> and sometimes test equipement
56:01 <Lemon> tell me tell me
56:12 <hsn> lemon
56:12 <Ysjoelfir> hsn well, is it? is there a rule that says "I only blame one person, regardless if the other contributed to the situation?" :D
56:22 <Ysjoelfir> xD poor lemon^^
56:25 <rust_collector> nah, I don't read the forum. it is just mr sensitive here
56:27 <Lemon> ha I see
56:33 <Lemon> well dave, I realised something
56:39 <Lemon> first, he will never back down on something
56:45 <Lemon> he's always right :>
56:55 <Lemon> and he also can be quite biased, too
57:05 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that is what I criticise
57:22 <Lemon> that doesnt surprise me but
57:25 <Lemon> what is the drama !
57:28 <Lemon> tell meeeeeeeee
57:36 <hsn> typical "babyboomer?" or what ever they call that group age
57:39 <rust_collector> oooh, a sim card
57:45 <hsn> xD
59:42 <Ysjoelfir> its like "this is ma toy, and I decide how its done, if you don't agree, go fuck yourself!". which is kind of ok-ish, as it is his forum. but forums of THAT size just can't be "ruled" like you are the big boss and everyone has to agree. a few posts later Tautech seems to want to explain that to dave, but his reaction was once again just like "I don't care, fuck off". I get the impression that situations like that are becoming more frequent
59:43 <Ysjoelfir> in the last years, and I have a very bad feeling that it's only a matter of time until something bad happenes.
59:53 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - I was refering to that post https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/moderation-reports/msg2934132/#msg2934132
00:49 <hsn> who else than dave maintaining the foroum
00:53 <rust_collector> well, bad things happen all the time, and usually for a reason
01:14 <hsn> rust , karma is the big reason
01:17 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - Simon, gnif and Halcyon are moderators afaik
01:23 <Lemon> ho you are right Ysjoelfir, as I said
01:28 <Lemon> Dave can be a kid
01:36 <Lemon> like 'Im right because Im Dave'
01:39 <hsn> /report lemon
01:43 <Lemon> and I dont give a shit
01:52 <hsn> xD
02:06 <Lemon> but well for what I care, this forum is maybe made by him, but its not 'his', its what thousands of people made of it
02:14 <hsn> /report lemon [political religious]
02:27 <Lemon> :O
02:35 <rust_collector> yes, stop poligiousing here
03:06 <Ysjoelfir> --> its not 'his', its what thousands of people made of it
03:20 <Ysjoelfir> and that is what I mean with you can't behave like that in a forum that big
03:33 <rust_collector> sure you can
03:52 <hsn> (karasi) in arabic is "chairs" .. democracy = demo chairs .. so grap ur chair and start talking .. no one will listen .. boss will do what he want
03:53 <hsn> xD
03:59 <rust_collector> if you go far enough, the forum will grow smaller, and it will balance out again
04:44 <Lemon> thats the same thing when he shits on a product he dont like, and tons of peeps tells him in the video, and he acts like 'its my video idc, and even then, I'm fucking right you're not
04:50 <Lemon> theres no possible debate
04:58 <Lemon> you cant argue with this type of people :>
05:02 <Lemon> and trust me I tried
05:04 <rust_collector> you have been on the internet long enough to see big things disappear before, right?
05:39 <hsn> hahaha rusty, i've been in life enough to see stuff disappear
05:55 <Ysjoelfir> you can, but it'll tip over sooner or later. Been there, done that, on more than one forum. In the forums I was years ago I was always one of the top contributers. until the forums died because of administrative mistakes like that. why? if you dig through the moderation reports thread its often that people with high post counts get banned because of things dave or simon don't like. which is to be expected, as people with bigger post counts
05:55 <Ysjoelfir> are statistically more prone to post something that offends someone.
06:30 <Ysjoelfir> but as you start pushing against those top posters... well.. as you say rusty, the forum will grow smaller over time, I'm pretty confident of that going to happen sooner or later
06:54 <Lemon> honestly I see this forum as a big pile of some interesting stuff
07:01 <Lemon> its not 'organic' for me
07:06 <rust_collector> there will be a new forum, as usual
07:07 <Lemon> I prefer to hang around here
07:22 <Lemon> on the forum, you can just see people defending their fav shit
07:25 <hsn> but .. but ... guys .. i like eevblog :<
07:28 <Lemon> most of they are biased
07:33 <Lemon> them
07:39 <Lemon> sure theres interesting people
07:53 <Lemon> but they are hidden by the mass
08:00 <rust_collector> just wait until you see the new shiny forum... it takes about 2 weeks to adjust to it, then you will start to forget the old forum
08:04 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - I like it too. but it happened before like that and I don't think eevblog is safe of that
08:28 <Ysjoelfir> either that rusty, or there will be like 15 new forums that all are going to die :D
08:41 <rust_collector> yeah, well
08:45 <hsn> can halcyon deliver the message ysjoelfir ?
09:22 <rust_collector> I am sure he CAN. but...
09:42 <rust_collector> 99%
09:43 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know? But as many people have already mentioned it (just dig through the mod report topic...) and the reaction was always "I don't care about it, fuck off"... I doubt that it would change anything even if Halcyon can
09:49 <Ysjoelfir> still 99% rusty? XD
10:12 <Lemon> ho Dave wouldnt even care if his own kids/wife tells him something, im 100% sure of it
10:19 <Lemon> I know too much types of people like him
10:29 <Lemon> you can try various ways, thats a dead end
10:34 <Lemon> he's right, you're wrong
10:41 <Ysjoelfir> My head of dev is like that, too.
11:08 <hsn> i dont agree guys .. there is always a way
11:10 <hsn> :>
11:32 <Ysjoelfir> its a pain to discuss stuff. like, we have had 30°C in here last week. he forced everyone to close the windows because that pesky floor cooling thing will manage it. yeah, sure, we saw that last year, it just got warmer and warmer.
12:01 <Lemon> even if temp raised to 50C and he was dying
12:05 <Lemon> he'd still defend it
12:25 <hsn> how did u put the celesius degree ysjoelfir
12:30 <hsn> symbol
12:36 <Ysjoelfir> like... that? °
12:39 <hsn> yes
12:43 <Ysjoelfir> °
12:47 <hsn> teach me
12:48 <Ysjoelfir> wait
12:48 <rust_collector> that is how he did it
12:51 <hsn> tech meh
13:11 <rust_collector> it looks like a balloon in the ceiling there
13:25 <rust_collector> even if the ceiling is y shaped
13:34 <Lemon> on qwertz or azerty you can I think
13:47 <hsn> °
13:57 <hsn> stupid hexchat
14:30 <rust_collector> I only have æøå
14:36 <rust_collector> and the ¤
14:41 <Ysjoelfir> hsn https://drive.google.com/file/d/101jXUfnQqYZzlNx_op7o2274ABz3FQBT/view?usp=sharing
14:52 <Lemon> im reading the thread
14:56 <hsn> ah
14:57 <Lemon> dave is really ridiculous
15:03 <hsn> ok i tell u my way ysjoelfir
15:06 <Lemon> poor tautech talking normally
15:12 <Lemon> "careful tautech£
15:29 <Ysjoelfir> exactly, that "careful tautech" somehow realy pissed me off
15:32 <Lemon> like "careful man, you better not say something I disagree with"
16:06 <hsn> (alt + 248) = ° ,,, (alt + 253) = ²
16:06 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, that is that "¤" even supposed to be?
16:20 <hsn> i saw that lemon
16:22 <rust_collector> I have no idea
16:22 <Ysjoelfir> good old alt codes. I like those :)
16:39 <rust_collector> °°°°°°°°°°°°°
16:42 <Ysjoelfir> I once somehow remembered the alt code for a death cross xD
16:46 <hsn> but hexchat doesnt work with alt codes so i 've to do them outside and copy them
16:58 <Ysjoelfir> † hah
17:12 <Ysjoelfir> just use adiirc :P
17:24 <hsn> too much effort :P
17:46 <hsn> i wanna burger guys
18:04 <Ysjoelfir> same
18:10 <rust_collector> I wanna be sedated
18:18 <rust_collector> lalalalalal
18:20 <Ysjoelfir> but SWMBO suggested to do low carb again, as that worked realy well the last time we did it
18:23 <rust_collector> nanananan
18:30 <Ysjoelfir> life is life, nana na nana
18:48 <rust_collector> in a bunch of balloons
18:54 <rust_collector> °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
19:12 <Ysjoelfir> or in... that thing ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
19:25 <rust_collector> but, can you go to low carb, and stay with that?
19:57 <Ysjoelfir> We did for around three years, yes. life long? I'm not sure. maybe.
20:12 <hsn> i eat what i want .. eventually i'll die in an accident :>
20:19 <rust_collector> I diet only works for as long as you follow it
20:37 <Ysjoelfir> ah. just googled that thing. "¤" is supposed to be "THE currency sign". it is a character used to denote an unspecified currenty.
20:53 <hsn> it looks like sun
21:11 <rust_collector> that is good to know
21:24 <rust_collector> I will have an üppr time with that
21:27 <hsn> u can use it in (brightness button) ysjoelfir
21:28 <hsn> :P
22:28 <rust_collector> I will use that in all the papers they never make me write
23:17 <hsn> ysjeolfir can this be derived from these: https://snipboard.io/5Zxcq8.jpg
23:18 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - thats true. the good thing with that low carb thing is, that you learn to better control what you eat and start to cook with way more vegetables that are low in calories, as many veggies and fruits actually have much sugar (and therefore many calories) in them. I don't believe in that "Ketogenic cycle" thing that low carb afficionados swear on, I just enjoy healthy food and a reduced calorie intake. and THAT is something you
23:19 <Ysjoelfir> can keep up over life, as soon as you did it long enough to get used to it.
23:51 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, I wouldn't use that
24:22 <Ysjoelfir> It's imperial.
24:51 <hsn> but characteristic impedance is not related to length
24:57 <hsn> right?
25:10 <Ysjoelfir> correct.
25:17 <hsn> and also isnt it for all frequencies
25:33 <hsn> so Xc will vary with that range
25:41 <rust_collector> as long as you get all the stuff you need in your food, it is a pretty simple calories in -calories out thing, afaik
25:42 <hsn> so .. its not that simple ?
25:46 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
26:29 <rust_collector> I have to go discard some calories... brb
26:44 <hsn> enjoy
26:45 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - exactly that is what I'm saying. The low carb thing is (for me) just a good way to find recipes that have stuff in them I like and doesn't rely on hyper expensive stuff like nutrient shakes or whatever
26:50 <Ysjoelfir> don't dive to deep rusty!
27:29 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, give me the recipe that buys me 38 fitting trouser
27:32 <Ysjoelfir> So, while rusty is defecating... Lemon, do you enjoy your read?
27:50 <Ysjoelfir> hsn... erm... in an instant? Not that easy :D
27:54 <hsn> xD
28:01 <Lemon> well I think I well summed it up even before knowing a shit about it
28:12 <Lemon> its a case of "I'm right you're not"
28:16 <Lemon> and not only from dave
28:31 <Lemon> no one will back up a second from what they say/said
28:37 <Ysjoelfir> you did, at least if my/our oppinion is correct. ^^
28:41 <Lemon> the bigger the post count, the bigger the penis
28:54 <hsn> what penis
29:03 <Ysjoelfir> except from some people that are like "erm... guys, do you notice something?"
29:06 <Lemon> good ol e-penis !
29:12 * Ysjoelfir looks at hsns post count
29:18 <Lemon> the bigger the post count, the more you need to accept at what I say
29:22 * Ysjoelfir now understands that "what penis" question
29:42 <Lemon> yeah a few peeps are trying but they are so blind
29:48 <Lemon> they wont read them
29:59 <Ysjoelfir> or they do and wipe it all away
30:50 <Lemon> yeah thats why I rarely read those type of topics, Im trying everyday to quit being bothered by everything like this
30:59 <Lemon> because Im the kind of person that hate injustices
31:09 <Lemon> but sadly you cant discuss with this type of person
31:16 <Lemon> and its not the first time I saw that from dave
31:30 <hsn> haha
31:33 <Ysjoelfir> what I find a bit sad is, that (not in this case, granted, this was a bit hard and I totally under stand the ban) blueskull gets banned regularely for defending his country, while those that are aggressive and say that all chinese are bastards just don't get any penalty at all.
31:51 <Lemon> theres a few videos where he shits on products, theres like, TONS of peeps who tells him "dude come on you're biased" and he takes time to answer every comment to say "noooo Im nooott"
31:51 <rust_collector> hsn, if you mean my size 38, just eat 85% pizza, and drink lots of vodka on the weekends. the other few %, just eat whatever you can find. Ice cream is good
31:56 <Lemon> thats so ridiculous lol
32:53 <hsn> thanks rusty i feel ur care in that :>
33:19 <Ysjoelfir> yes. I remember that one video where he was bashing on some mailbag item, like "that sodlering is awfull, a shame to even show something like that, bla bla" - then reads the letter and notices it was from a kid. suddenly its great and all. but: NO excuse! he didn't even bother to rerecord that.
33:21 <rust_collector> or buy a short ratchet strap, and use that as a belt.
33:21 <hsn> lemon send :>
33:40 <Ysjoelfir> when I would make such a mistake I would be ashamed and not publish my ramblings, just to not hurt that kids feelings
33:44 <K> hello
33:47 <Ysjoelfir> hi K :)
34:01 <rust_collector> oh K
34:13 <hsn> <Ysjoelfir> when I would make such a mistake I would be ashamed and not publish my ramblings, just to not hurt that kids feelings
34:13 <hsn> +
34:14 <hsn> +1
34:24 <hsn> hello, there K!
35:26 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, https://snipboard.io/KJvWAx.jpg
35:28 <Lemon> ofc he would never ever realise publicly an error
35:28 <rust_collector> well, it is after 10. I am going outside to play with my new grinder a bit. have fun
35:40 <Lemon> there must be someone whos wrong, but not him :>
35:42 <Lemon> at all costs
35:52 <Ysjoelfir> xD hsn
36:00 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, have fun :)
36:07 <Ysjoelfir> dont forget the pics
36:14 <rust_collector> eh?
36:22 <hsn> rusty grind my 40 belly to 38
36:27 <rust_collector> it is just a cheapass 1200watt grinder
36:41 <Ysjoelfir> I meant of that red car thing that you're going to cut to pieces
36:59 <rust_collector> I don't want to wear it out, so I only use it on metal, hsn
37:07 <Ysjoelfir> XD
37:56 <rust_collector> oh. well, maybe I will do a bit on that when I get back. I am making some bracket things, to fasten the plastic window stuff on moms greenhouse
37:59 <Lemon> but Ysjoelfir you know what else I find laughable ?
38:13 <Ysjoelfir> clowns?
38:14 <rust_collector> funny things, like jokes?
38:23 <Lemon> that dude who makes tons of account to piss them off, thats funny, not him but the dozen of people who keep feeding him xd
38:38 <Lemon> they give him exactly what he wants
38:43 <Lemon> including dave, various mods etc
39:03 <K> what are we discussing?
39:06 <hsn> rust_collector, dont wear it out ..
39:13 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u50NxblEaE
39:32 <rust_collector> angle grinders on organic materials
40:00 <hsn> organic hsns's bellys
43:33 <Ysjoelfir> thats true, Lemon. K - I dug through the moderation reports topic this morning and got a bit sad because of the way dave reacts to criticism. Lemon could roughly tell you why, as I have to go to the toilet real quick now :X
44:17 <K> ah.
52:58 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Engineering: If NASA had the same budget as US military! https://t.co/V1FuagxWvB
53:17 <Lemon> ho you could easily sum it up in a sentence
53:27 <Lemon> "I'm right because I'm Dave, and you are wrong"
54:06 <Lemon> "ho, 95% of my viewers tells me im biased towards this products ? nah they are all wrong"
54:09 <K> the peasants are getting upset?
54:31 <Lemon> haha yeah theres some of that
54:43 <Lemon> personnally I dont care much, as I use that forum to read others posts
54:48 <Lemon> on metrology/test equipement
54:57 <Lemon> a lotta people are knowledgable
55:11 <Lemon> and I stick here because everyone is nice
57:21 <Lemon> but besides that
57:29 <Lemon> those ssg mica caps are so cute !
57:37 <Lemon> much smaller than what I thought
57:43 <rust_collector> Lemon, can you fix the weather? please?
57:46 <Lemon> one could make a really nice decade box with them
57:49 <Lemon> ho yes sec
57:54 <Lemon> hhmmrmnggnnghh
57:58 <Lemon> done
58:27 <rust_collector> uuh, oh... I did mean the other way, but.... thanks....
00:49 <Lemon> I bought a nice vape mod
00:55 <Lemon> made in stabilized wood
01:12 <Lemon> I got it at a really nice price, 35 euros instead of 120
01:13 <Halcyon> Evening everyone
01:16 <Lemon> brand new !
01:19 <Lemon> hi boi !
01:21 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon, my favourite channel citrus
01:21 <rust_collector> wheee!
02:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I've gone walkabout and have switched to aboriginal timezone. Be back whenever.
02:16 <Lemon> and the mod I bought is a bottom feeder
02:28 <Lemon> you got a tiny squeezable bottle where you store the juice inside it
02:44 <Lemon> that way you can use one of those rebuildable atomizers without carrying a separate bottle
03:07 <rust_collector> eeeh, ok
03:19 <Lemon> but it will come here in a good month
03:22 <Lemon> thats the sad part
03:30 <rust_collector> that sounds like something
03:32 * Halcyon feeds on Lemon's bottom
03:34 <Halcyon> Wait... :P
03:40 <Lemon> :O
04:14 <rust_collector> do you feel a strange empty feeling, Lemon?
04:37 <Lemon> I'm hollow
05:22 <Lemon> hmmm I just realized theres a mistake in those mica caps
05:26 <Lemon> a value is wrong
05:36 <Lemon> two times in a row I get wrong values
06:07 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, someone (hsn?) asked if you could tell the dave our concerns and if he would even care. What do you think?
06:18 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - huh? did they come on a belt?
06:23 <Halcyon> Depends what the concerns were...?
06:46 <Lemon> ho no theres only three, those are the old SSG type caps
06:59 <Lemon> he gave me a 25nf instead of 11.6nf
07:02 <Lemon> well not a big deal
07:10 <Lemon> its a bit scratched tho for NOS
07:32 <Lemon> I bought a pack of 10 too
07:39 <Lemon> but the dude took one month to send them
07:59 <rust_collector> they would not be old stock, if he shipped them right away
08:22 <Halcyon> So you ordered caps off Dave?
08:40 <Lemon> ho not from dave, they were from a random ukrainian on ebay :>
08:55 <Lemon> those silver mica caps are supposed to be ultra stable
09:04 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, what did you want me to ask Dave
09:09 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, basically I noticed many times in the mod report topic that there seems to be a kind of... "this is my toy, I don't care what the users want, I don't care about equality or justice, so fuck off" - mentality. And we (=we here in the channel) discussed that we fear that this could lead to a split in the community as you just can't drive a community that big without some kind of democracy
09:17 <Lemon> I got a 100nf 0.3% one, 25nf and 50nf 0.5%
09:35 <Halcyon> The toy being the forum?
09:39 <Ysjoelfir> yep
09:47 <Halcyon> And is this coming from Dave or Simon?
10:02 <Ysjoelfir> In this case dave, but we all know how simon is :P
10:13 <Halcyon> Yeh he gets sand in his vagina sometimes
10:16 <Ysjoelfir> xD
10:18 <Halcyon> But he's a good guy
10:29 <Halcyon> OK, so what do you suggest a solution would be?
10:34 <Lemon> he's a good guy if he likes you
10:58 <K> i doubt there is a 100% solution
12:51 * steve30 meows at Halcyon 
12:53 <Halcyon> Playing devil's advocate here a little, I think Dave is well within his rights to claim that and even announce it publicly. The EEVblog is unlike others I've ever seen. The moderation rate is actually very very low. There are 2 moderators, myself and Simon, plus Geoff and Dave as admins.
13:06 <Halcyon> You go on other forums and it's chaotic with trolls everywhere.
13:10 <Halcyon> There is a fine balance
13:20 <Lemon> well the problem being, he don't really want more help :/
13:35 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely, but thats not the point here, Halcyon :)
13:36 <Lemon> and thats not really what I dislike
13:42 <hsn> <K> i doubt there is a 100% solution <============================== +1
13:47 <Lemon> its more the : "you don't talk about that because I don't want to£
13:52 <Halcyon> Which bit do you dislike then?
13:53 <rust_collector> well, I would think, that all we can do, is to let him know we have some worries, then he has to figure out if he wants to do anything about it or not
14:06 <Lemon> or "this product is bad because I don't like it"
14:15 <rust_collector> it is his toy, and he can smash his toy with a rock, if he wants to
14:21 <K> to play devil's advocate even more - this is Daves project, he can run it into ground if he wishes so. this is not a democracy in my book
14:25 <Lemon> well sure he made this forum
14:29 <Lemon> he created it
14:34 <Lemon> but people forged it
14:43 <K> you must be french, Lemon.
14:47 <Halcyon> Well... I can't go to him with concerns if there isn't a potential solution presented as well. He is a busy fellow and it would come across and complaining if I just told him a few of the members are unhappy.
15:07 <Lemon> yes K ? :>
15:30 <Lemon> I mean, I respect anyone, and try to be good
15:39 <Lemon> I know some peeps dont give a shit as long as they feel good about it
15:45 <Lemon> I'm just not like it and I hate egoism
16:45 <hsn> lemon , but u also can not force him to say "its good if he doesnt believe so" i mean he is saying what he believe is right ?
17:22 <Lemon> no I don't force him, but when you review something you can't destroy something because of what you like or not, you have to describe the thing how it is
17:26 <Lemon> you can't be biased
17:41 <Lemon> sure he can give his opinion, thats fine
18:04 <Lemon> but theres a difference between saying "to my taste its not a good product" and "this is a turd, look at this blabla its a shit its badly made"
18:16 <Lemon> its so clear that sometimes he's biased
18:17 <rust_collector> well, you can not know everything, so you have to tell what YOU see, right then and there
18:20 <Lemon> and tons of people tells him
18:31 <Lemon> yes you just describe the thing
18:36 <Lemon> opinion comes after
18:38 <Lemon> brb
18:52 <rust_collector> it is yellow, it is awesome, lol
19:05 <hsn> its lemony
20:09 <Lemon> back
20:14 <Lemon> ofc im awesome ! heh
20:29 <Lemon> but yeah if you review stuff, and you know tons of people follow you
20:57 <Lemon> you kinda need to be unbiased about products that ends in your hands
22:52 <hsn> sure, halcyon .. i think its unmature to go to him to just complain in this stage .. im not "unhappy" or "happy" for what was on that post .. i really dont see what ysjoelfir sees.... i was wondering if that was a real problem and u went to propuse .. would he listen reasonably and get convinced if it was against what he currently thinks ? or he will be biased ..
23:41 <Lemon> well you can clearly see that everytime someones says something he dislike, he just goes "shhhh take care man"
23:55 <Lemon> when you are at the head of a forum like this, you have to leave your opinions aside
23:59 <Lemon> and act neutral
24:04 <Lemon> see his answer to tautech
24:11 <Lemon> "careful Tautech"
24:19 <Lemon> when he didnt said anything offensive at all
24:31 <hsn> im not sure what is between them or what was the history so i have no comment on that ..
24:33 <Lemon> he just disliked what he said so he went like "remember I can ban whoever I want"
25:03 <hsn> but is that true halcyon ^ in your opinion
25:06 <Lemon> theres a few of his videos that were like this too, where he shat on a product and tons of peeps told him "dave you are biased"
25:07 <hsn> what lemon said ^
25:16 <Lemon> he would just go "im not its shit"
25:23 <Lemon> without even trying to listen to himself
25:34 <hsn> can i see one of that vids
25:34 <Lemon> them
25:46 <Lemon> yeah lemme find one
26:04 <hsn> not like im not believing u .. im just curious
26:56 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Tkm21dI1g&t=1558s this one for example. Sure the product got some flaws, but he makes it look like the worst thing ever just because he dislikes the brand
27:10 <Lemon> he compares it to another dmm that is league above, in quality and price
27:41 <Lemon> that metrahit is what, 800-1k usd ?
28:07 <Halcyon> Which bit HSN?
28:46 <Lemon> but halcyon I agree with what you said, we are just talking about something different :>
29:07 <Lemon> but about what some peeps said "its his forum he can do whatever he wants"
29:10 <Halcyon> OK. I'll keep an eye on it. If I think Dave is straying or getting a bit too upset, I'll mention something to him,.
29:16 <Lemon> sure on paper he can, but thats like, kiddish as hell
29:23 <Halcyon> Oh yes, it may very well be
29:27 <hsn> Halcyon,
29:28 <hsn> <Lemon> well you can clearly see that everytime someones says something he dislike, he just goes "shhhh take care man"
29:28 <hsn> <Lemon> when you are at the head of a forum like this, you have to leave your opinions aside
29:37 <Halcyon> But some people also only respond to childish comments
29:40 <Lemon> well take care Halcyon you might lose your place if you do that :/
30:00 <Lemon> ho thats true ! as I said ealier, people feeding the troll that makes multiple accounts are just laughable
30:07 <Lemon> including dave, on that one
30:13 <Lemon> and some mods too sadly
30:21 <Lemon> I mean thats exactly what the troll wants
30:22 <Halcyon> hsn: In my opinion Dave isn't like that and that comes from knowing him personally. However, there are a few users he doesn't like (and for good reason). Some people get more leeway than others, that's just a fact of life.
30:23 <Lemon> "attention"
30:46 <Halcyon> No everyone is equal, just like in real life.
30:48 <Halcyon> *not
31:04 <Lemon> well thats not really the impression he left
31:17 <Lemon> and I think tons of people think like us on that one :/
31:20 <Lemon> im sure he's a good guy
31:33 <Lemon> but sometimes he's clearly biased, and acts like "im dave, I do what I want"
31:36 <Lemon> thats a bit sad
31:45 <Halcyon> Perhaps yeh
31:57 <hsn> lemon, but he is dave
31:58 <hsn> xD
32:05 <hsn> and he do what he wants
32:10 <Lemon> and im lemon !
32:15 <Lemon> THE lemon !
32:24 <hsn> WWE entry
32:35 <hsn> theeeeeeee LEMONNNNNNN!
32:48 <Halcyon> Hahaha, look, leave it with me guys. I'll think of something.
33:23 <Lemon> you're the best <3
34:06 <hsn> guys , there are small tripods that can hold a phone on desk table .. and be slided ?
34:18 <hsn> so shoot table , electronics , stuff ?
34:26 <hsn> to shoot*
34:35 <hsn> or table work
34:43 <Lemon> im sure it exists yeah
34:53 <Lemon> a traveling tripod I think its named
35:34 <DogWomble> /me passes around the cheese and crackers
39:23 <Lemon> I saw a nice vape mod that I really like
39:28 <Lemon> but it costs 178 euros
39:40 <Lemon> https://www.lepetitfumeur.fr/mods-electroniques/box-centaurus-dna-250c-lost-vape.html#/38930-couleur-gunmetal_pearl_fish_stabwood
39:43 <Lemon> but look at this
40:43 <Lemon> I like the gunmetal pearl fish abalone
41:26 <Lemon> https://www.lepetitfumeur.fr/img/cms/Produits/mods/Lost%20Vape/CENTAURUS%20DNA%20250C/centaurus%20(1).jpeg on the right
44:46 <Ysjoelfir> that looks neat, Lemon :)
49:51 <Halcyon> Hey, do you guys want to jump on Discord for a moment?
50:36 <DogWomble> i can jump in if you want :P
51:52 <Halcyon> DogWomble, do you want to extend invites to these guys on your server?
51:56 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CA8VRiujsAA/?igshid=12l8ok4c95yar
51:58 <Halcyon> Or shall I create one?
52:03 <hsn> lemon ^
52:20 <DogWomble> well aho we inviting?
52:32 <hsn> there is discord ?
52:39 <Halcyon> hsn, lemon and Ysjoelfir
52:48 <hsn> yes send me
53:08 <DogWomble> hsn, well we spend time in either mine or Ampera's sometimes
53:08 <DogWomble> https://discord.com/invite/uDsNb2R
53:09 <Halcyon> Actually, I'll create an EEVblog IRC server
53:23 <Ampera> already have an EEVBlog discord
53:26 <Ampera> has been canned for ages
53:36 <Halcyon> Yes but I can't invite people to it
53:40 <Halcyon> Only Dave can
53:45 <Ampera> dave isn't on it?
53:51 <Halcyon> Oh you mean an unofficial one
53:55 <Lemon> honestly I like circle jerks like ours
53:57 <Halcyon> Well invite us Ampera
54:01 <Ampera> didn't know there /was/ an official one
54:04 <Halcyon> Yeh there is
54:09 <Ampera> oh, then nevermind
54:26 <Halcyon> No, invite us to your one
54:33 <Halcyon> The other one is for supporters/patreon only
54:36 <Ampera> It'd need refactoring to be put into service, so if you really want you can add people to Server K if they don't mind the toxicity, or just do your own thing.
54:42 <K> circle jerk or jerk circles?
54:49 <Halcyon> Ampera, we'll do yours
54:51 <Ampera> eh, if you really want
54:54 <Halcyon> We just want to use your voice chat
55:11 <DogWomble> well hsn has just joined mine, either/or
55:15 <Ampera> https://discord.gg/8XYaySy
55:21 <Halcyon> Join Ampera's one
55:27 <Ampera> It's designed to mimic the structure of the forum
55:32 <Ampera> which is an eh organization
55:42 <Ysjoelfir> I can join but I can only listen as I'm at work right now :)
55:52 <hsn> me too im at work
56:42 <Halcyon> What about you Lemon?
56:46 <Halcyon> We are in general voice
57:09 <Lemon> right now im making food but I'll join later :>
57:25 <Halcyon> Damn you Lemon
57:43 <Halcyon> Well for the rest of you, we are in General Voice on Ampera's server
57:57 <Ysjoelfir> so lets see if that works on the work pc :D
58:29 <Ampera> This is for my personal server, since stuff for this channel often gets based there. https://discord.gg/VHbqrX
58:33 <Ampera> It's a cespool
58:37 <Ampera> but it's /my/ cespool
58:40 <Halcyon> :)
58:57 <Halcyon> I like your cesspool Ampera
59:02 <Ampera> you
59:05 <Ampera> 're rarely on it
59:13 <Halcyon> I'm only there for you
59:26 <Ampera> so you're not there for the cespool
59:26 <Ampera> :/
00:02 <hsn> r u on voice chat ?
00:09 <Halcyon> hsn: Yes
00:14 <Halcyon> General_Voice
00:21 <hsn> on which server i just joined 3
00:29 <Halcyon> Server K
00:38 <Ysjoelfir> I think I joined the wrong one? :D
00:51 <Ysjoelfir> I chose that one [11:55:15] <Ampera> https://discord.gg/8XYaySy
00:57 <hsn> somthing wierd wait
00:58 <Halcyon> You were these hsn, then you disappeared
01:54 <hsn> yes, thats because discord has set the voice to speakers
02:06 <Halcyon> Is that not what you want?
02:07 <hsn> so i have to set it up to headphone
02:08 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
02:08 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I posted two, because Halcyon insisted on me putting my prototype EEVBlog Discord, and then I put the one everyone actually joined
02:09 <Halcyon> Ahh
02:17 <Ysjoelfir> ah :D
02:19 <hsn> im at work .. so u know .. xD
02:20 <Halcyon> Ampera just confused me :P
02:42 <Ampera> Halcyon, I protested and you insisted, this is what you get when you don't understand what you're asking for
02:52 <Halcyon> Love you
03:03 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, this is my personal server most people base themselves in https://discord.gg/VHbqrX
03:21 <hsn> UK slang :P
03:27 <Ysjoelfir> I think thats the one I joined now
03:41 <hsn> ampera just joined
04:36 <Halcyon> Sorry hsn, we'll stop talking work stuff shortly
04:48 <hsn> its fine
05:08 <Ysjoelfir> XD
05:28 <Halcyon> Lemon, we need you
05:34 <Ysjoelfir> you're kind of a scandinavian! you should be able to pronounce my nick, Halcyon :P
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> thats not too wrong :D
06:21 <hsn> lol all voice are exactly against what i imagined
06:29 <Halcyon> Oh really?
06:33 <Ysjoelfir> jep, indeed.
07:15 <Ysjoelfir> I would have immagined Halcyon to be a bit higher and Ampera a bit lower :P
07:27 <hsn> from lemon import voice as lm
07:42 <Ysjoelfir> no idea. just my immagination :D
08:09 <Ysjoelfir> that must feel weird for people not being in the discord, watching me and hsn doing half sided discussions
08:18 <Halcyon> Eh it's OK
08:34 <hsn> ysjoelfir we are like .. erm .. stalkers
08:35 <hsn> xD
08:58 <Ysjoelfir> just stay awake a bit longer, I'll be off from work at... erm.... ~1600
09:16 <Ysjoelfir> (its 1209 now)
09:21 <hsn> what time is it everywhere ?
10:04 <hsn> 13:09
11:17 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have some rain here. way too hot x.x
11:39 <Ysjoelfir> XD
11:42 <Ysjoelfir> yep
11:45 <Ysjoelfir> Name is Kai
11:50 <Ysjoelfir> :P
12:10 <hsn> and just (yes joe il fir)
13:11 <Ysjoelfir> I'm in Frankfurt. its ok right now, but we have like a huge mass of hot air in the roof over my head that got heaten up the last days. so I feel like I'm in an convection oven :P
13:45 <Ysjoelfir> my thermometer on my desk says 28
14:03 <hsn> :< .. https://www.google.com/search?channel=trow2&client=firefox-b-d&q=bahrain+weather
14:17 <Ysjoelfir> 42°C HOLY CRAP
14:28 <Ysjoelfir> I would melt
14:36 <hsn> its not that hot yet
15:02 <hsn> there are days that it gets 50
15:20 <hsn> and if u go to beach in middle day u have to constintly put water in ur head
15:26 <hsn> or it boils u
15:32 <Ysjoelfir> I have to say I kind of enjoyed the year when it was like.... -14 in the winter.
16:10 <hsn> its gets 9-8C in winter .. coldest ..
16:14 <hsn> xD
16:29 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds pretty pretty nice where ampera is. temperature wise.
16:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh, no, correct that. 36 is way too hot
17:05 <hsn> bless u
17:10 <Ysjoelfir> Gesundheit!
17:43 * Halcyon prods Lemon
18:00 <Ysjoelfir> let me try to ping him on whatsapp :P
18:25 <hsn> req_join(&lemon, 'force_join');
19:08 <Ysjoelfir> I told Lemon to stop cooking snails and move over to discord
20:13 <Ysjoelfir> otoh, I just noticed that its nearly lunch time! I may be heading over to get some nice.... erm... potentially edible stuff in 10 mins
21:21 <hsn> what robot r u talking about
21:41 <Ysjoelfir> they are talking about elgato capturing thingies
22:02 <hsn> ah
22:44 <Halcyon> Sorry guys, work chat has started. I'll be back soon
22:52 <hsn> sure
22:53 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :)
23:00 <hsn> i miss lots of words appearantly
24:00 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, do u know what this tripod called : https://www.instagram.com/p/CA8VRiujsAA/?igshid=12l8ok4c95yar
24:43 <Ysjoelfir> then its ideal if you listen and participate :) i learned a good bunch of english understanding by.. well.. just lsitening. ^^
25:17 <Ysjoelfir> no, but if you find it out hsn I would appreciate to know. looks pretty usefull
25:28 <hsn> im checking
25:33 <hsn> horizontal tripod arm
25:39 <hsn> and it has some results
27:18 * Ysjoelfir prefers mx brown
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> I don't like that linear ones. they are awfull!
30:05 <DogWomble> https://www.asus.com/au/Keyboards-Mice/CERBERUS-MECH-RGB/
31:07 <Ysjoelfir> Lunch time guys, I have to grab some food real quick
46:31 <Halcyon> Won't be too long guys
51:50 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000071108348.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.628d6ce9VmEtCR&algo_pvid=1303a3c2-9571-49f2-b867-8b34176fb589&algo_expid=1303a3c2-9571-49f2-b867-8b34176fb589-4&btsid=0be3764515934277559324321e3975&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
58:10 <Ysjoelfir> thanks hsn :) looks pretty decent imho?
58:27 <hsn> i saw another one
58:51 <hsn> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33051571945.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.20e31503SKEpz4&algo_pvid=7823b180-9dca-4976-97ad-08b602066b51&algo_expid=7823b180-9dca-4976-97ad-08b602066b51-21&btsid=0be3743b15934275891452049ecef6&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
59:08 <Ysjoelfir> cool :D
59:42 <hsn> but i took this one as i believe others are too big for me .. i want somthing on table probably
00:09 <hsn> ampera so happy why?
00:16 <Ampera> people are dying and it's excellent
00:20 <Ampera> it's finally the cull we need
00:21 <hsn> ^ https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021613003.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5a734c4dffcg2D
00:45 <hsn> :_)
00:56 <hsn> thats a tear
01:32 <hsn> i like u ampera
02:05 <hsn> sorry didnt catch what u said
02:23 <Ampera> well I don't know what I said
03:04 <K> stop saying things
04:32 <hsn> i dont want to buy a mac to develop an app for ipphone ^
06:01 <hsn> a phone that is just a phone is a desent phone ^ u know u dont make sense ampera :D
06:26 <Ampera> I was saying, for a phone that is /just a phone/, the oneplus one is fairly good
06:28 <Ampera> as it's cheap and easy
06:31 <Ampera> just like Halcyon
07:32 <Halcyon> Pretty much
07:35 <Halcyon> Where's Lemon?
07:49 <Lemon> ima here !
07:56 * Ampera squeezes Lemon 
08:28 <Halcyon> Discord us Lemon
08:31 <Lemon> ampera please convince me not to spend 180 on a vape mod I find beautiful
08:48 <Ysjoelfir> come to discord, then Ampera will convince you with his soothing voice :)
08:53 <Ampera> don't spend money on your shitty fucking vape you absolute fucking teatowel
08:56 <Lemon> hehhhh theres tons of people right now, but I'll join !
09:04 <Lemon> I cant speak at all
09:22 <Lemon> ampera you convinced me
09:22 <Halcyon> Aw damn
09:23 <Ysjoelfir> also, since the topic is phones: I'm still looking for a small-ish phone...
09:26 <Lemon> now I need it !
09:42 <Ampera> Lemon, https://discord.gg/VHbqrX
10:19 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't seem to be anything like that on the market anymore. size like the good old HTC desire HD. also as rugged as that. but with modern hardware.
10:26 <Lemon> I did join earlier :>
10:40 <hsn> k800 sony ericsson
10:44 <hsn> :)
11:49 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - needs to be a schmart fon sadly
12:04 <Ysjoelfir> I noticed :X
12:17 <Ampera> my phone is nice and big, like my penis unfortunately is
12:26 <hsn> i use pixel 2
12:31 <hsn> currently
12:35 <Halcyon> I still want to see both Ampera :P
12:43 <Ysjoelfir> I have a LG G6 right now.
12:59 <Ysjoelfir> 5.7 inches
14:08 <Ysjoelfir> YES! had the exact same problem xD
14:28 <K> cant hear shit
14:35 <hsn> whats the problem ? ^^ i cant hear my boss is yelling around
14:38 <Ampera> oh shit it's K
14:42 <Ampera> I thought that was Lemon
14:54 <Halcyon> K, check your audio settings
15:03 <hsn> lol , i was like .. hmm lemon has kk nick
15:09 <Ampera> Lemon, I accepted you into the server, I just didn't see you there
15:15 <Ysjoelfir> but I liked the power button thingy on the back. its in such a convenient location which is why I opted for the G6. but I don't get another LG as they ditched that feature.
15:27 <K> sound in youtube and vlc works fine
15:30 <K> hmm
15:31 <Lemon> thats ok I cried only for 7 minutes
15:48 <Ampera> Lemon, join general_voice
16:03 <hsn> k, right click on ampera and reduce his voice because he yells sometimes xD
16:05 <Ysjoelfir> next one may be a sony. xperia.... A2 compact or however that thing was called. very long but slim. maybe I feel better with that, no idea.
16:09 <Lemon> yeah but I cant talk right now
16:29 <hsn> lemon join us .. we are the muted gang ..
18:21 <hsn> pixel 4 is coming
18:23 <K> hmm ill try firefox
18:24 <hsn> soon
18:44 <hsn> sorry its realeased
19:32 <hsn> i have pixel 2 that doesnt get updates in my country !!!!
20:09 <hsn> in my country only .. when i travel i can download them ..
21:31 <Ysjoelfir> I'm still waiting that KaiOS finally gets a boost. A phone like the nokia 8110 would be enough for me, if it would run whatsapp, google wear and google fit. ideally also my sleep app. done. don't need anything else. but that won't happen soon I immagine
22:14 <Halcyon> Lemon, why are you deaf?
22:22 <K> ff ftw
22:23 <hsn> "lemon in a nutshell"
22:27 <Halcyon> :P
22:51 <Lemon> as I said theres tons of peeps around me, and I dont have my earbuds with me :>
22:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - had that with my SGS3 once when I exchanged the DISPLAY. as that had the modem inbuilt and I got a display from.... erm.... somewhere that wasn't my region
22:56 <Lemon> so y'all are on speakers
23:19 <Lemon> I'll simply nap until they go away
23:34 <Lemon> then you'll get to hear my horrible accent
23:41 <hsn> XP = worm hole ..
23:42 <K> yay arguing about tabs vs spaces
23:50 <Halcyon> Lemon, I want to hear you
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> oh K, you're "there" now? :D
25:45 <hsn> u can make windows secure by unplugging the ethernet wire
28:03 <Ampera> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebnqd3nXYAE46DC?format=jpg&name=large
28:19 <Ysjoelfir> whats that?
28:33 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I have Moobs, as I'm fat, but... why?
33:22 <hsn> snap , dpkg ,
33:25 <hsn> apt
33:30 <hsn> pac
34:15 <hsn> ah
34:36 <hsn> if laptop manufacturers stop dealing with microsoft to bring windows .. and people have to buy it seperatly .. linux share will go up
36:06 <Ampera> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fwupd
40:01 <hsn> from what i learned .. (windows didnt came free) .. u paid for it ..
40:09 <hsn> from what i read ^^**
40:14 <hsn> halcyon
44:16 <Ysjoelfir> the UI of 10 is horrible
44:28 <Ysjoelfir> but the OS itself is running very stable, at least for me
44:46 <Ysjoelfir> even though I would personally prefer 7
46:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, there was a video of one of c++ guru (scott mayers) talking about interfaces ... at some point he is critisiing the stupid name of "start button" where people where asking how do i shutdown my pc through clicking start button
46:46 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
46:54 <hsn> and after some time he was critising removing it after all this years people get used to it
46:58 <Ysjoelfir> but now it doesn't have that name anymore I think?
47:15 <Ysjoelfir> no, the tooltip still says start xD
47:31 <Ysjoelfir> but its now that stupid tilted window pictogram
47:41 <hsn> yeah he was talking about the version they removed the start menu
47:54 <Ysjoelfir> exactly Halcyon
48:17 <K> personally i think OSX is great!
49:13 * K pours a vat of oil onto the burning watermill
49:16 <Ysjoelfir> a great example for that 3 places for 1 option thing is the audio configuration. you have the audio mixer thing, you have the "big" audio config in the old windows style and you have the "new" win10 style. all three have some options only for them, and many that are available in all 3
50:27 <K> but apple hardware is quite good
50:45 <K> arguably
51:11 <K> meh, works fine for me
52:08 <K> 2.5k eur for no problems in 6 years, apart from 1 battery change
53:35 <hsn> windows new control panel is shit
53:51 <Ampera> Well I'm gonna head out as it's about time to start work soon, so
53:55 <Ysjoelfir> I have friends that are very happy with apple stuff. but it's not for me. I LIKE the style, absolutely. I also like the feel and i kind of also understand that people like the apple environment when you once "entered" it. but its not for me, its just to expensive for my standards
53:58 <Ampera> have a good evening, and I'll have a good morning.
54:05 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy Ampera :)
54:10 <Halcyon> Night mate
54:18 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, not the mouse ..
54:25 <hsn> its not practical
54:41 <K> some people like it, i dont
55:54 <hsn> aoe2 <3
56:11 <hsn> used to play that game for hours
58:31 <Ysjoelfir> same. another one from that era was the good old command and conquer games. I loved those
01:23 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, ^^ https://www.alphawire.com/Products/cable/alpha-essentials/high-low-temperature-cable/2814_4 a lot of these dont have characteristic impednace
01:51 <hsn> but they have capacitance, inductance .. can i drive the characteristic impedance from that?
01:51 <Ysjoelfir> shame on you Halcyon
02:00 <Ysjoelfir> no idea
02:06 <Ysjoelfir> :P
02:19 <Ysjoelfir> work xD
02:36 <Ysjoelfir> mr. head of devolepment is running around being nosy
02:49 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to
02:58 <hsn> mine is talking in phone do u want to hear him ?
03:12 <hsn> xD
03:22 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure we couldn't understand him as he's talking arabic, isn't he?
03:30 <hsn> no .. english
03:33 <hsn> he is indian
03:41 <Ysjoelfir> oh
03:45 <Ysjoelfir> does he the head wiggle thing?
03:56 <hsn> no , little bit
04:02 <Ysjoelfir> all indians do that, don't they? XD
04:26 <hsn> almost yes .. but george is unique :P
04:48 <Ysjoelfir> usually?
06:01 <hsn> his wiggle is very small .. and not in all sentences
06:12 <hsn> amplitude is small
06:16 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:01 <K> haven't found the resonant frequency then, hsn
07:12 <Ysjoelfir> I have a workmate. he is very nice but does the wiggle with high amplitude. it irritates me as the indian wiggle for yes is basically like the german gesture for no
07:53 <Ysjoelfir> omfg that ASMR shit :D
08:21 <hsn> i wasnt hearing as my boss started talking about others
08:50 <hsn> ysjoelfir ,, hahahaha that is epic
09:19 <Ysjoelfir> nah come on, its 14:09!
09:48 <Ysjoelfir> omfg
10:23 <Ysjoelfir> my SWMBO is a kindergardener. and she tried so hard to get that baby shark thing in my head and I managed to get it out of there again. THANK YOU ._. XD
11:01 <Ysjoelfir> 30
11:06 <Ysjoelfir> oooh yeah
11:09 <Ysjoelfir> I like that one
11:19 <Ysjoelfir> gn8^^
11:35 <Halcyon> DogWomble ruined it with that awful song
11:38 <Ysjoelfir> I actually like the... what was it.... saragosso band? :D with the pineapple?
11:49 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POv-3yIPSWc
12:24 <Ysjoelfir> I know that version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTINa9Q7q4s
12:31 <DogWomble> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11_BNeB7K0o {NSFW WARNING]
12:56 <Halcyon> Terrible
13:37 <Halcyon> So yes, there you go guys, you have now heard our craziness
13:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh
13:47 <Halcyon> Especially Ampera, he is American afterall :P
13:57 <Ysjoelfir> just noticed that I haven't looked into my mails the whole day. 17 unread mails :D
14:07 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you still want your kneecaps?
14:10 <Ysjoelfir> I like your crazyness :P
14:29 <Halcyon> Love you Ampera :) I was hoping you were still around
16:22 <Halcyon> Anyway goodnight guys, hopefully next time we can actually talk properly.
17:00 <Halcyon> We need to have like a thing that tracks when our awake times align
17:22 <Ysjoelfir> that would be nice :D Ampera, please program that
17:27 <Ysjoelfir> and implement it into the bot!
17:28 <Halcyon> Chop chop
17:40 * Ampera chop chops Halcyon's arms off
17:40 * Ysjoelfir leaves discord, too :)
17:58 <Halcyon> :) Night all
18:05 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 Halcyon
18:30 <hsn> gn
21:23 * Ysjoelfir enjoys now some synthwave tracks to get Baby Shark out of his head
34:28 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, if you want a good load of music https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgBE3pQP75h_BRE862KN3hJmXnrSL5ep4
34:38 <Ampera> I've been slowly turning my music collection into a youtube playlist
34:52 <Ampera> one or two songs might be region restricted, but it should all be available and decent quality
34:55 <Ampera> might be good on shuffle
35:07 <Ampera> still WIP as I have a bunch of songs i need to find and add manually
35:23 <Ysjoelfir> nice, thanks :) I have noticed that I like many songs you enjoy, so that will definitely be good for listening at work
41:29 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) EOF from client
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56:44 <rust_collector> what crazyness? I have agadoo on cd....
58:14 <rust_collector> hmm, 99%
59:48 <Ysjoelfir> still 99%?
00:00 <rust_collector> yep
00:36 <Ysjoelfir> it was uploaded and started with its processing stuff already?
00:44 <Ysjoelfir> or 99% of the actual uploading?
00:45 <rust_collector> yep
00:53 <rust_collector> 99% of processing
01:02 <Ysjoelfir> then you should be safe to reload and it should be done. had that many times
01:51 <rust_collector> uuh, no
02:04 <rust_collector> reload, and it is just gone
02:37 <hsn> its trying to kill the 1% left from sanitizers, detol
03:19 <rust_collector> why not do like in india, just throw battery acid in their face
03:19 <Ysjoelfir> but it should be in your video library now?
03:36 <rust_collector> nooo, I can not see it anywhere
03:43 <Ysjoelfir> what the...
04:12 <Ysjoelfir> something is realy fubared with youtube as it seems? I had it stop shy of 100% several times, but never disappearing
04:24 <rust_collector> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KmRAdRfJlsGUr4seirs1islZD0ZI_93M/view?usp=sharing
05:14 * Ampera throws a skoda at rust_collector 
05:43 <rust_collector> wth kind of thing is this?
05:54 * Ampera sneezes at rust_collector 
06:08 <rust_collector> oh, hi Ampera
06:33 <Ampera> hi rust_collector how are you doing this fine today
07:41 <rust_collector> Oh, I am doing superawesomegreat. I just finished assembling moms greenhouse. and, was at work, and every damn time I go outside, it starts raining
08:47 <rust_collector> mom should be home in about an hour. I wonder if she will notice, lol
09:08 <Ampera> It's been raining here too, but that's good as we've been having a drought
09:20 <Ampera> We might have some more today, which is fun
09:32 <Ampera> we need a proper thunderstorm at some point, but those very rarely come to us
09:50 <rust_collector> we have had lots of thunder here lately. I really really like it
11:25 * Ysjoelfir is jealous and wants thunder, too
11:43 * Ampera gives Ysjoelfir more grilled knackwurst instead
12:15 <Ysjoelfir> I'm somehow into hot sausages recently. like those realy coarse spicy sausages
12:22 <Ampera> mit wasabi zenf
13:20 <Ampera> Sadly I've eaten all my sausage
13:33 <Ampera> the only meat I have left at the moment is some pork picnic in the freezer
13:51 <hsn> so u play with ur self , and u eat ur sausage ? :) joke
14:27 <Ysjoelfir> xD
14:32 <rust_collector> well, that is one way to get rid of it, I guess
16:06 <Ampera> I need to re-learn German some day
16:17 <Ampera> I used to almost be able to hold a conversation with it, but it's long gone from my brain now
17:24 <K> speaking of German, consider this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hzZj57p6Co
17:59 <Ampera> K, must I
18:06 <K> yes.
18:40 <Ampera> That guy's voice is so low it sounds like his balls dropped hard enough to drill a mile deep hole
20:03 <Ysjoelfir> wth did I just listen to :D
20:15 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, do the lyrics redeem it?
21:45 <Ysjoelfir> its.... strange.
22:00 <Ampera> I could have told you that.
22:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiY5FBI_5D8
22:30 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ptnrzCy9A
22:32 <Ysjoelfir> good old german song
23:26 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, too new for me
23:44 <Ysjoelfir> its not that new, is it?
23:48 <Ampera> 2010
23:52 <Ampera> (at least the video)
23:54 <Ampera> still too new
24:02 <Ysjoelfir> 2005 according to google.
24:06 <Ampera> too new
24:15 <Ysjoelfir> ok :)
24:28 <Ampera> currently listening to Beach Boys (as it's on the playlist)
24:33 <Ysjoelfir> let me think about an older one.
24:58 <Ampera> My play list goes primarily from 1920 - 1990
25:02 <Ampera> though I do enjoy some newer songs
25:17 <Ampera> usually hovers around 60-80
25:40 <rust_collector> if the band started later than scorpions, it is too new for Ampera
26:08 <Ampera> I haven't even heard of them.
26:18 <Ampera> I don't have too many German songs in my collection, but what I do have is neue deutsche welle
26:21 <rust_collector> well, you have heard them
26:27 <Ampera> maybe
26:35 <rust_collector> at any air show on tv
26:36 <Ysjoelfir> you most likely have heard scorpions :D
26:40 <rust_collector> yes
26:56 <Ampera> I know a few obscure artists
26:56 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ
27:02 <Ampera> the one that pops to mind is Franck Pourcel
27:13 <rust_collector> anyway, the thing is that they started in 1965, so anything newer than that....
27:39 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I've never heard that song
27:47 <Ysjoelfir> oO
27:55 <rust_collector> at all air shows, it seems to be the law, that they have to play rock you like a hurricane
28:16 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, thats even more common than wind of change
28:40 <Ampera> listening, standby
28:57 <Ampera> yeah I've heard that one
29:22 <Ampera> I like proper rock, progressive and derivatives
29:35 <Ysjoelfir> so no rammstein for you?
29:38 <Ampera> Meat Loaf is probably definitive of my likes in that area
29:42 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, no I am not that gay.
29:49 <Ysjoelfir> XD
30:01 <Ysjoelfir> I like meatloaf. the food and the song guy
30:06 <Ampera> yeah
30:10 <rust_collector> I sort of want to see scorpions now, that they have a fun drummer
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> do they?
30:27 <rust_collector> they do
30:51 <Ysjoelfir> I always remember that video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E
30:57 <Ysjoelfir> the drummer there is gorgeous
31:28 <Ampera> I'd say my favourite group that represents all of my musical tastes combined is ELO
31:41 <Ysjoelfir> I love ELO.
31:49 <Ampera> it's rock, disco, new wave, some falsetto in there
32:46 <Ampera> After Beach Boys is Bee-Gees, which are alright
32:53 <Ampera> (in my playlist)
33:17 <rust_collector> no mercyful fate?
33:21 <Ampera> who
33:42 <Ampera> as always this is my playlist https://amperaa.net/cdn/musiclist.html
33:53 <Ampera> that listing is a tad out of date, it needs to be regenerated eventually
34:16 <Ampera> Number of songs not always proportional to how much I like an artist.
38:21 <Ysjoelfir> How do you like Tubthumping from Chumbawamba?
38:33 <Ampera> whowhatnow
38:36 <rust_collector> not at all
38:44 <Ampera> sounds gay
38:50 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure you know that one, too :D
38:59 <Ampera> me?
39:01 <Ysjoelfir> but usually nobody knows that this song is that name
39:01 <Ampera> no I've never heard of it
39:02 <Ysjoelfir> yes
39:24 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkmIyC6v00
39:34 <Ampera> standby
39:39 <Ampera> yeah I've heard it
40:12 <Ysjoelfir> see?^^
40:20 <Ampera> it's eh
40:29 <Ysjoelfir> I kind of like it, but its one of those one hit wonders.
40:43 <Ampera> maybe after 10 hits I could consider it a wonder.
42:13 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I don't realy like that name either. It may be a great song that had great impact, but its by no means a wonder
42:38 <Ysjoelfir> a wonder is for me something like R.E.M. that made many great songs over many years
42:39 <Ampera> I think perhaps the greatest song of all time is Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks
43:02 <Ampera> along with ELO's Telephone Line, Goodbye Stranger by Supertramp, and Strawberry Fields Forever by The Beatles
43:21 <Ysjoelfir> I can't realy say what my favorite song is. there are some competing over that title^^
43:42 <Ampera> I'd say those represent my favourite, but there are others I quite like a lot
44:35 <Ampera> like ELO - Calling America, Four Seasons - Who Loves You, Eels - Manchild, Self - Out With a Bang
45:04 <Ampera> Anne-Marie David - Tu te reconnaîtras is actually a ESC song that I really like
45:10 <Ampera> perhaps my favourite from the entire competition
49:46 <rust_collector> I have different things I like every day
51:04 <rust_collector> I also have a 4.2mm drill bit in my sock, for some reason
53:08 <Ampera> rust_collector, presumably someone placed it there
53:47 <rust_collector> you like conspiracies....
54:17 <Ampera> rust_collector, well obviously it just became self aware, grew legs, and crawled out of your toolbox and into your sock
55:05 <rust_collector> well, I prefer that version, because then I do not get people nagging because I am antisemitic, and all kinds of stuff
55:43 <Ampera> rust_collector, obviously, you antisemite
56:00 <Ampera> what sort of monster doesn't like semantics
56:02 <rust_collector> ooh, that was a great song
56:50 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo
59:43 <Ysjoelfir> I'm gonna go home now. cu later guys
59:59 <rust_collector> yeah! go home!
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