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01:40:53 <Ampera> steve30, go back to sleep
01:40:54 <Ampera> you're tired
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02:50:27 <Ysjoelfir> re
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03:15:22 <DL3CE> Hi .. just dropping in for a moment ..
03:18:08 <Ysjoelfir> Hi
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03:22:00 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Lemon
03:22:08 <Lemon> hey ! waddup ?
03:22:20 <Ysjoelfir> I need your address. Can you send it to my phone?
03:22:48 <Lemon> ho sure !! but please tell me how much I owe you for shipping !
03:23:09 <Ysjoelfir> I'll do as soon as I did ship it :)
03:23:57 <Lemon> done :> you can use dpd if you want, thats how the dude sent me the 3456a !
03:24:20 <Ysjoelfir> ok, I'll check who is the cheapest. DHL will be between 16 and 21 euros IIRC
03:24:51 <Lemon> ho dhl it is then ! I dont like dpd a lot, at least for france to france they suck ball
03:24:53 <Lemon> balls
03:25:09 <Lemon> but for germany to here it went smoothly so well
03:25:19 <Lemon> but dhl is a better peace of mind :>
03:25:43 <Ysjoelfir> for germany to germany DPD is crap xD
03:28:51 <DL3CE> They damaged my tube tester which made it all the way from Lithuania on the last few meters.
03:29:38 <DL3CE> They delivery guy threw it on our balcony and when we wanted to get the insurance for it "we need an invoice from an offical repair shop for that"
03:29:53 <Lemon> yeah lets forget about dpd, I was so amazed the 3456a did germany to france in two days without problems :O I used them like 4 times, I never got anything
03:30:02 <DL3CE> (He did also fake the signature of our neighbor)
03:30:03 <Lemon> pieces of shit
03:30:23 <DL3CE> But .. yeah .. offical repair shop.
03:30:49 <Ysjoelfir> I repair old electronics. Send it over to me, I'll write you an invouce.
03:30:55 <DL3CE> For soviet test equipment of which nobody knows even the actual manufacturer anymore.
03:30:55 <Ysjoelfir> *invoice
03:31:11 <DL3CE> Nah, it has been 6 years now.
03:31:20 <Ysjoelfir> well, that might be a bit late then :D
03:32:33 <DL3CE> 7 years actually
03:33:11 <DL3CE> https://photos.app.goo.gl/hzTdMbUEnLVoezJr7
03:33:28 <DL3CE> It also bent the internal frame somehow.
03:33:31 <Lemon> I want to build that decade box
03:33:40 <Lemon> but im not sure about connections
03:33:42 <DL3CE> The big ass transformer wasn't stopping as quick as the case ..
03:33:45 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/a/7wKWGye heres how they look
03:33:51 <Ysjoelfir> whoa, crazy :O
03:34:11 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - that looks pretty easy
03:34:24 <Ysjoelfir> the leftmost is common, then 1 to 0 from right
03:34:26 <Lemon> theres 11 pairs of holes
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03:34:53 <Lemon> but to connect them in series
03:35:03 <Lemon> you know I got 9 of the same values
03:35:19 <Lemon> I have an idea but im not sure
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03:36:02 <Ysjoelfir> draw it
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03:36:55 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/K4YeYdv
03:36:58 <Lemon> like this ?
03:37:26 <Ysjoelfir> jep, that should do it
03:37:39 <Lemon> but then to connect each decades
03:37:55 <Ysjoelfir> one side to the 1, one side to com?
03:38:09 <Lemon> but right now, nothing is connected to com ?
03:38:13 <Lemon> should I bridge com to 0 ?
03:38:34 <Ysjoelfir> no, why? com is always connected by the wipers to one of the other terminals
03:38:48 <Lemon> haaa right
03:39:06 <Lemon> so its like
03:39:20 <Lemon> first decade, 1 to 1, com to com
03:39:29 <Lemon> so when you look from the top
03:39:36 <Lemon> its alternating between 1 to 1 and com to com
03:39:38 <DL3CE> I need more free time ..
03:40:15 <Ysjoelfir> either that, or you could go from 1 to com, 1 to com,.... to connect them
03:40:16 <coppice> we can offer you a 5% discount for quantity, but free is too much
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03:40:24 <DL3CE> .. but stupid boss expects to actually work for my money. That complicates everything ;)
03:40:25 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D
03:40:43 <Ysjoelfir> hey, I'll be unemployed by the end of september, want to have some of my spare time then?
03:41:57 <DL3CE> Nah.
03:44:09 <DL3CE> I picked up my AoE again and yeah .. MUCH stuff to try, and there is the EMRFD too .. and the ARRL handbook.
03:50:56 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, go work for VW making sausages :P
03:52:52 <Ysjoelfir> for who?
03:53:05 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, VW
03:53:15 <Ysjoelfir> oh
03:53:17 <Ysjoelfir> ooooohh
03:53:35 <Ampera> maybe when I'm in Germany next I'll scout some of them out
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04:15:50 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon!
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04:21:22 <hsn> anyone want honey?
04:21:25 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CBknCA9JH83/?igshid=f72u9ew0cu6s
04:21:57 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but without the bees please
04:22:37 <hsn> :D
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04:28:01 <l_hsn_l> this one https://photos.app.goo.gl/PNoorPKxs1x5dhxu5
04:28:05 <DL3CE> No extra crunch?
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04:30:05 <l_hsn_l> crunch?
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04:36:44 <Ysjoelfir> the bees^^
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04:38:51 <l_hsn_l> fruit juice on the way
04:42:03 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir yes ! sorry I was eating
04:42:39 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon, I bought a new atomizer. Or... better two.
04:42:55 <Lemon> shiet, he got down the rabbit hole !
04:42:58 <Lemon> show me show me show me
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04:43:10 <Ysjoelfir> no, I'm just annoyed by the damn leaking OBS ^^
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04:43:24 <Ysjoelfir> its still in the post. but I can tell you which
04:44:03 * Ampera leaks 2kw directed THz power EM directly at Ysjoelfir
04:44:25 <l_hsn_l> https://photos.app.goo.gl/x6RDoXRHvPPZDVUZA yummy
04:44:28 * Ysjoelfir dies
04:44:46 * Ampera parties like it's 1551
04:44:52 * Ampera also dies
04:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> 1551?
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04:45:16 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, the year
04:45:28 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. :D
04:45:38 <Ysjoelfir> l_hsn_l whats in there? looks good
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04:45:51 <l_hsn_l> mango + mmelon
04:46:00 <Ampera> also l_hsn_l or hsn93 or whoever, you've been dipping in and out of IRC like nuts for the past week or so
04:46:12 <Ampera> it's not a dealbreaker, but it might be nice if you could fix that up at some point, or get a ZNC
04:46:26 <l_hsn_l> usually i put pomagrenate also
04:46:31 <Lemon> past week ? pffffrrtt
04:46:39 <Ampera> or so
04:46:47 <Lemon> past decade !
04:46:50 * Ampera squeezes Lemon into l_hsn_l's cocktail
04:46:57 <Lemon> sprouichhhhhhhhh
04:47:11 <l_hsn_l> ampera i ... mmm
04:47:35 <l_hsn_l> the isp gives me blocked ip
04:47:40 <l_hsn_l> on the gsm
04:47:51 <Ampera> then use 5G
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04:48:03 <l_hsn_l> fck the other hsn
04:48:06 <l_hsn_l> wait
04:50:01 <l_hsn_l> thats the work pc i keep forgetting to quit irc from it
04:50:17 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir show meeeeeeeeeehhhhhh
04:50:21 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - I got myself an old one (exvape expromizer) as I wanted to try MTL and I loved the design and it was cheap, as well as a pretty new one, the Vapefly Brunhilde RTA
04:50:45 <Lemon> ho a rta !
04:50:52 <Lemon> thats neat I dont know much about those :>
04:51:23 <Ysjoelfir> Brunhilde https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12FnXoZUK98
04:51:46 <Ysjoelfir> crappy video
04:51:47 <Ysjoelfir> wait
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04:52:12 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmyDn12v7R4 brunhilde
04:52:21 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmTU3VaZocM exprosomethingsomething
04:52:33 <Lemon> damn thats tall !
04:52:44 <Lemon> how much was it ? its one of those 4 thick wires style
04:52:47 <Lemon> thats quite interesting
04:53:14 <Ysjoelfir> exactly what I thought. "quite interesting" and "damn thats tall!"
04:53:38 <Lemon> im still not really satisfied by my fatality m25
04:53:38 <Ysjoelfir> it was 35 for brunhilde and just 5 for the exprothing, as it was a returned item with missing accessories
04:53:46 <Lemon> I havent tried the new handcrafted coils tho
04:53:56 <Lemon> ho thats a neat deal !
04:54:04 <Lemon> I paid a lot for cotton/coils and the rta
04:54:16 <Lemon> 60 euros the rta, and like 40+ for supplies
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04:54:26 <Lemon> even more, as I bought 30 euros of handcrafted coils
04:54:40 <Ampera> TO MANY HSN >:/
04:54:49 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
04:54:55 <Ampera> >:\
04:55:08 <Lemon> poor hsn
04:55:13 <Lemon> he got a shitty net
04:55:25 * Ampera gives Lemon some fishnets
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04:56:14 <Ysjoelfir> I got a set of 45 coils for 8€, Lemon
04:56:29 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, T3sl4 is interested, maybe he can finally fix his name here
04:56:41 <Ysjoelfir> XD
04:56:45 <Lemon> which brand was it ? problem with those premade coils is that they are not that great from what I heard :/
04:56:51 <Lemon> they are decent at best
04:57:02 <Ysjoelfir> noname. I think its better than what I can do in the beginning^^
04:57:10 * T3sl4 coils Ampera
04:57:21 * Ampera gets comfy with T3sl4's coils
04:59:17 * T3sl4 inducts Ampera
04:59:24 * Ampera magnetizes T3sl4
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04:59:39 * T3sl4 polarizes Ampera
04:59:45 * Ampera inverts T3sl4
05:00:04 * T3sl4 imaginaryies Ampera
05:00:11 * Ampera concretes T3sl4
05:00:22 <Lemon> I might try to rebuild on the m25 with those expensive coils
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05:00:27 <T3sl4> well that cements it
05:00:32 <Lemon> 15 euros and 13 euros, for each pairs
05:00:37 <Ampera> T3sl4, you're grounded
05:00:59 <Ampera> at least until you get back down to earth
05:01:11 <Ampera> you have a lot of potential, and I don't want to see you waste it getting all amped up
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05:01:31 <Ampera> so as much as you might resist it, you need to take charge
05:01:49 <Ampera> and until you have the capacity to do so, you need to be isolated.
05:02:15 <T3sl4> that's illegal, you have to conduct an investigation first.
05:02:29 <T3sl4> there's no admittance without due process
05:02:39 <Ampera> T3sl4, it's not illegal, it's not like it's battery
05:03:17 <DL3CE> You can has as much parts stock as you can think and it always something missing, and in most cases it's something really trivial ..
05:03:21 <Ampera> It's just gonna have to be your current state of affairs.
05:17:52 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir that brunhilde looks quite neat
05:18:45 <Ysjoelfir> did you watch that vide?
05:18:49 <Ysjoelfir> *o
05:19:22 <Ysjoelfir> he seems to be prette excited
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05:30:53 <coppice> T3sl4: I've been through that jew process they use for admittance. I lost an important little part of me
05:31:25 <T3sl4> don't get snippy with me
05:31:40 <Ampera> cut it out, T3sl4
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05:37:45 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon, you shoule realy get the teapot dripper. it feels so nice
05:37:57 * Ampera drips all over Ysjoelfir
05:37:59 <Lemon> it looks neat :>
05:38:06 <Ysjoelfir> nothing for all day on the move, but its perfect for trying out liquids
05:38:15 * Ysjoelfir adds Ampera into his dripper atomizer
05:38:16 <Lemon> well I already got the m25 fatality, and I do want a rda but a more conventional one :P
05:38:22 * Ampera disintegrates
05:38:23 * Ysjoelfir atomizes Ampera
05:38:41 * Ampera is now made up of atoms, as to where before, he was not
05:39:26 <l_hsn_l> how many hsn are there
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05:39:38 <Ampera> enough to where I am getting annoyed at them
05:40:07 <l_hsn_l> ok i ll uninstall irc somwhere tmrw
05:40:20 <l_hsn_l> to reduce the annoying issue
05:40:28 <Ampera> just run a ZNC somewhere with a stable internet connection
05:40:31 <Ampera> solves all of this
05:40:35 <Ampera> I run one
05:40:49 * Ysjoelfir wonders what a znc is
05:41:01 <Ampera> Sort of an IRC bouncer/multiplexer
05:41:16 <Ysjoelfir> sounds interesting
05:41:18 <Ampera> it allows you to connect multiple clients to your own small little IRC server which then connects to another server
05:41:28 <Ampera> so you can do things like automatic backlog
05:41:29 <Ysjoelfir> uh
05:41:38 <Ysjoelfir> I like that
05:41:56 <Ysjoelfir> in fact, I want that now
05:42:24 <Ampera> they are indeed nice
05:42:43 <l_hsn_l> i ll search for znc also
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07:02:02 <Lemon> tommorow I'll write down around 180 resistor values, measured with the hp 3456a in 4 wire mode
07:02:12 <Lemon> select 9 of the best for each decades
07:02:25 <Lemon> and solder them on those nice USSR old stock thumbwheel switches
07:10:52 <Ysjoelfir> thats nice, I'll be very interested to know your results
07:11:15 <Lemon> sure ! im going to use 0.1% 50ppm/C yageo resistors
07:11:25 <rust_collector> hey nerds
07:11:25 <Lemon> or 25ppm/c ? I keep forgetting
07:11:36 <Lemon> only 1% are 1R, 10M and 100M
07:11:39 <Lemon> sup rusty
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07:14:04 <Lemon> thumbhweels are silver plated, im going to use some mundorf silver solder I found in a random box (used it for some audiophool cables, for an experiment)
07:14:07 <rust_collector> uuh. I am, therefore I am
07:14:30 <Lemon> its not made to be ultra precise anyway, but I might aswell do it the best I can
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07:15:27 <rust_collector> do that. the next time, make it as crap as you can, and see how different it is
07:15:33 <EEVBlog> buh
07:15:48 <Ysjoelfir> hi rust_collector
07:15:50 <Lemon> I thought about selling some of those decade boxes
07:15:53 <Ysjoelfir> hi Amperablobbot
07:15:54 <Lemon> if results are interesting
07:16:37 * Ampera sneezes at Ysjoelfir
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07:17:38 <rust_collector> will you be able to compete with random indian guy?
07:17:40 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWqhLIuvLs&t=636s rusty look at this
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07:17:58 <rust_collector> mm, yes
07:18:07 <Lemon> thats your kind of metrology !
07:18:13 <Lemon> but I quite like this guy tbh
07:18:19 <Lemon> learnt a lot from him, he's and humble and all
07:18:42 <Lemon> alright im too tired
07:18:45 <Lemon> time to sleeeeeep
07:18:47 <rust_collector> i am sure he does know quite a bit.
07:19:00 <rust_collector> good natta Lemon
07:19:10 <rust_collector> hi Ysjoelfir
07:19:10 <Lemon> thxxxxx
07:19:46 <rust_collector> I feel like I just woke up, and have a supermassive hangover
07:23:03 <Ysjoelfir> xD what did you drink?
07:24:23 <rust_collector> coffee and orange juice
07:24:31 <Ysjoelfir> hmm
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07:24:46 <Ysjoelfir> how much vodka was in that orange juice?
07:24:59 <rust_collector> I woke up late today. 13.53, I start at 14
07:25:06 <rust_collector> none
07:25:13 <Ysjoelfir> :O
07:26:00 <rust_collector> and, everything today, has been like that
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07:29:42 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds "great"? :D
07:33:48 <rust_collector> well, I did ruin the evening for mr boss, so I am not going to work tomorrow
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07:57:22 <Ysjoelfir> uhuh? Before I go to bed you have to tell me of your bad-being
07:58:16 <rust_collector> I am a generic being, so that also makes me bad, and able to avoid paying taxes
07:58:26 <Ysjoelfir> XD
07:59:20 <rust_collector> well, I have had half a glass of ibu-things, it will probably be ok in about an hour
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07:59:39 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure it will :)
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08:00:04 <rust_collector> I am still not going to work tomorrow
08:00:27 <rust_collector> I'm BAD!
08:00:55 <Ysjoelfir> yeah! show him who's bos!
08:00:58 <Ysjoelfir> *boss
08:01:14 <rust_collector> oh, he knows.
08:01:42 <rust_collector> you are only boss, as long as people listen to you
08:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> true
08:04:07 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, do you want to tell lemon about the time you made a vape device out of a glow plug?
08:04:31 <Ysjoelfir> xD
08:04:37 <Ysjoelfir> that shouldn't be that hard
08:04:47 <Ysjoelfir> but yeah, why not :P
08:05:13 <rust_collector> no, should be really easy. and it should be pretty .. vapefull?
08:05:42 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure it is. MAybe I should do that someday. could be fun :) however, I'm off to bed. enjoy your free day and get a glowplug ;P
08:05:53 <rust_collector> uhm
08:06:35 <rust_collector> well, good night. and say good night to mrs wmbo, from the bad nowegian
08:06:54 <Ysjoelfir> hah, I'll do that :)
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10:01:54 <MrMobodies> I didn't know Dave rents what looks like part of the basement.
10:02:09 <MrMobodies> In his latest video with the ultrasound teardown
10:07:35 <steve30> He has a bunker
10:07:38 <steve30> Not sure where it is
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10:29:31 <rust_collector> it is always nice to have a bunker
10:29:47 <rust_collector> and it is nice when people do not know where it is, I would guess
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10:49:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Anderson: Lots to reflect on here. Electric mobility was indeed the future, but Segway was not. Why the fascination with self-balancing (a gimmick, as it turned out), rather than simply modern batteries and motors, which turned out to be a much bigger deal (scooters, bikes)? https://t.co/YfYZQFSMX9
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11:21:19 <MrMobodies> Steve30, I think I remember you saying that you lived in England.
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11:30:01 <rust_collector> he does sound sort of english, in text
11:33:07 <steve30> i do indeed live in England
11:33:45 <rust_collector> but, where would you move, if you had to?
11:34:24 <steve30> hmm, don't know
11:36:30 <rust_collector> at least you know english, so there is a lot of places you could get by with that... otoh, maybe you are not interested in moving to canada
11:37:36 <steve30> Canada always sounded nice
11:38:06 <rust_collector> yes, nice. they have cold, and snow, and bears, and.. trees?
11:38:07 <MrMobodies> Do you know a place called Romford?
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11:38:50 <steve30> I've heard of Romford. Not sure where it is though
11:39:09 <MrMobodies> It is in Essex about a couple of miles where I use to live
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11:39:36 <MrMobodies> In 2009 it was becoming violent
11:39:42 <MrMobodies> https://www.essexlive.news/news/troubled-essex-town-romford-people-2220622
11:39:42 <rust_collector> he is really missing that lovely place
11:40:00 <MrMobodies> they call it "historical town" but not anymore.
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11:40:16 <MrMobodies> since they knocked the historical bits down such as the brewery
11:40:23 <MrMobodies> and not much of a marketplace
11:41:15 <MrMobodies> In 2018 I when I was in a charity shop, and I heard singing. Drunk person with a can of bear slumped on a phone box at 10am in th emorning
11:41:30 <MrMobodies> in the night time lots of police vans lined up like the one in the picture
11:41:42 <MrMobodies> I see them waiting with batons around the noisy pubs
11:41:52 <MrMobodies> that was on my way home from the cinema
11:42:25 <MrMobodies> now Hornchurch is turning a bit like that too and they may have to impose a alcohol policy.
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11:44:44 <rust_collector> this virus thing has made people drink a lot. it is pretty interesting. every company I talk to has been super busy this year. but the amount of alcohol he deliver now it easily more than twice of what we used to
11:45:13 <MrMobodies> in my village they drink allot but they seem rational when they are drunk
11:45:30 <MrMobodies> in Romford/Hornchurch they get out of control
11:45:57 <rust_collector> this place is almost not even a village. and I do not go to town unless I have to. I dunno,
11:46:08 <MrMobodies> I read thought that certain Corona viruses maybe PHD dependent.
11:46:23 <rust_collector> phd?
11:46:41 <MrMobodies> so alcohol in the blood makes it unfavourable
11:46:52 <MrMobodies> no I was curious
11:47:27 <MrMobodies> They say a certain type of inhaler and vitamin D helps
11:47:55 <MrMobodies> I think I had it after the new year and the steroids in the inahler prevent my lungs from shutting down
11:48:10 <MrMobodies> well from becoming swollen
11:48:10 <rust_collector> Oh, if you find the right they, they will tell you to snort battery acid. that also helps
11:48:19 <MrMobodies> I had all the other symptoms though
11:49:03 <MrMobodies> in Romford there is a certain dilect there, known as the "Romford chav"
11:49:07 <rust_collector> but yes, i think someone said that cortison(e?) did help people recover much faster
11:49:29 <MrMobodies> I took a cough medicine called Galpseud which I had some left
11:49:35 <MrMobodies> they really helped with the sore through
11:50:17 <MrMobodies> I knew some people who had that dilect, when they greeted me across the road, they shouted at me like they were supporting a football match.
11:50:58 <MrMobodies> In this village I don't think about what hostility maybe waiting for me around the corner.
11:51:33 <MrMobodies> but then there is Peterborough, which I heard is 6 times the size of Romford and lots of crime there too.
11:52:46 <rust_collector> if you stuff more people into a place, you will have more crime... it just... is like that
11:53:58 <MrMobodies> yes, too many people, lack of resources they feel left out and nothing to do,
11:56:03 <MrMobodies> I finished seeing that video. It had a software error, but when I saw the hard drive, it was an IBM at the time when they had a high failure rate. Not a deathstar but the particular model which is a SCSI 2 had overheating problems
11:56:18 <MrMobodies> http://datacent.com/datarecovery/hdd/ibm/DNES-309170W
11:56:28 <MrMobodies> interesting I wonder if that why it failed
11:57:17 <MrMobodies> I mean the Ultrasound teardown
11:58:31 <MrMobodies> tomorrow it is going to be 30c and the day after, fortunately there is an air conditioner in this house in the conservatory.
11:59:03 <rust_collector> yeah, it is going to be hot here as well
11:59:21 <rust_collector> they said
11:59:27 <rust_collector> we will see
11:59:52 <rust_collector> I messed up again, and agreed to do stuff for people. i have to stop doing that
12:00:19 <rust_collector> well, maybe I will allow 4 things in a month
12:02:05 <rust_collector> weather place says it will not be so hot tomorrow. that is nice
12:02:28 <rust_collector> around 25. that is ok
12:03:37 <rust_collector> it is a little bit weird, but we have pretty much the same weather up here, as they have in kolkata these days
12:08:14 <MrMobodies> It was mild then went hot but lots of breeze
12:08:40 <MrMobodies> in my old place there was no breeze, apart from the traffic, not much shade so the whole place heated up.
12:09:07 <rust_collector> that is one of the things that happen in summer....
12:09:14 <MrMobodies> there were fields in the back towards park but hardly any on the streets compared to over hear in Cambrigeshire.
12:09:21 <rust_collector> good thing summer is done in a couple weeks
12:09:52 <MrMobodies> I remember in a months time, the heatwaves start at about 3pm till 4am in the morning
12:10:06 <MrMobodies> I'll see if that is the case in this area
12:10:58 <MrMobodies> there use to be temperates of mid 20's at aboutand it slowly died down but the humidity was high no breeze just hot and sweaty
12:11:09 <rust_collector> it is probably not very different
12:11:29 <MrMobodies> well there is about 2 - 4 degree difference in Cambridgeshire
12:11:43 <rust_collector> yes, but the time should be similar
12:12:04 <MrMobodies> another reason I moved
12:12:06 <MrMobodies> https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/inside-the-noisiest-place-essex-2187355
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12:12:18 <MrMobodies> noisy aircrafts, flying low
12:12:31 <MrMobodies> 3 - 5 a minute in the day
12:12:53 <MrMobodies> and yes there was soot but I that that was the traffic on the main road
12:13:38 <MrMobodies> I read they had nowhere to land as the London City Airport is small so they whizz around the sky waiting
12:14:12 <MrMobodies> I get RAF jets, which sound nice every once or twice a day
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12:15:01 <MrMobodies> If I hadn't moved and this lockdown happened, I think I would have gone mad.
12:15:40 <rust_collector> this is the part when I have to not say anything, right?
12:15:45 <MrMobodies> well actually there would have been no planes but then the neighbours were noisy.
12:15:54 <MrMobodies> hmmm?
12:16:12 <MrMobodies> Sorry, I was just comparing areas
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12:16:24 <MrMobodies> Countryside vs cramped city
12:16:49 <rust_collector> Yes, I was just sating that I would not comment on you going mad, and... something
12:17:08 <MrMobodies> well instead of going mad
12:17:15 <MrMobodies> I enjoyed myself a bit
12:17:23 <MrMobodies> room to move about, good sized garden
12:18:07 <MrMobodies> small shop across the road that sells supermarkets things, I didn't have queue up due to the lockdown, I asked them for things they did my shopping.
12:18:20 <MrMobodies> it was taken over by Indians and they are renovating it at the moment
12:18:34 <MrMobodies> I think it was a Spar.
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12:20:41 <rust_collector> they have the most annoying advert things on the radio here... It sounds like danyk read them. blah blah blah 30% off blah blah spaAaaaar
12:24:13 <rust_collector> eh, just go to sweden, they did not bother with the lockdown thing at all
12:28:26 <MrMobodies> I find many of the adverts in the UK insulting.
12:29:04 <MrMobodies> "Like I am stupid and confused, sitting there on the intruction of another to pay attention and believe everything they say on the advert."
12:29:22 <MrMobodies> I have got to go to bed now. Night.
12:29:31 <rust_collector> me too, good night
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16:13:11 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
16:13:11 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
16:16:13 <steve30> hello
16:16:18 <steve30> I should get a coffee
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16:24:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Next video! https://t.co/vIcWtiX1tG
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17:09:48 <steve30> I need to go and do Mrs Davies' garden this morning, then I've got the A/C man coming at mid day. I could do with going to sleep though :/
17:17:02 <Ysjoelfir> xD you're a very tired man, steve30
17:17:09 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 a pillow
17:17:36 <steve30> *purr*
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17:21:56 <steve30> *extra purrs*
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18:22:51 <Lemon> waddup bois
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18:35:02 <Ysjoelfir> hi lenom
18:35:14 <Lemon> hi hi :>
18:41:21 <Lemon> ok today I start to write down values for the decade box
18:43:23 <Ysjoelfir> I*m waiting :P
18:50:43 <Lemon> ok lets label them first
18:58:47 <Lemon> alright shits labelled
19:21:49 * Halcyon gives Lemon a squeeze
19:21:52 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
19:22:01 <Lemon> sqouichhh
19:22:03 <steve30> hi
19:22:08 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon :)
19:25:34 <steve30> gardening done, now to wait for the AC guy#
19:27:42 <Ysjoelfir> I'm trying to configure my router to allow me to connect via dyndns. I try to do that while configuring it using a VPN to my NAS from my work PC XD
19:31:57 * steve30 pokes Halcyon
19:32:08 <Halcyon> YAY! Pokes
19:32:11 <Halcyon> How are you Steve?
19:32:19 <Halcyon> Did you pull a few roots Steve?
19:32:26 <steve30> Not too bad. I'm looking forward to bed.
19:32:34 <steve30> I just cut the grass.
19:45:49 * hsn93 eat the grass
19:46:19 * Ysjoelfir bites into his router
19:46:55 <hsn93> i was planning to do znc stuff .. but not today . busy a bit
19:49:33 <Lemon> after trying tons of high end iems/daps I must say the shanling m0 and dunu falcon C combo is like, 99% perfect
19:49:38 <Lemon> if not 100%
19:50:13 <Lemon> I doubt anyone could convince me that something costing 10 times those (they are 200 euros iems, not cheap but not too expensive either) are actually at least 2 times better
19:50:18 <Lemon> even 10% better I'd doubt it
19:54:25 <Ysjoelfir> I'm trying to access my router over dynamic DNS, partly so that I can do the ZNC stuff, hsn93. But for heavens sake I can't figure out why I can't reach either the router or the modem ._.
19:54:34 <Ysjoelfir> whats a iems daps, Lemon?
19:55:11 <Lemon> iems are in ears monitors
19:55:12 <hsn93> can u access it over its ip ?
19:55:16 <Lemon> and a dap is a digital audio player :>
19:55:48 <Ysjoelfir> from my home network? sure. but I can't over dyndns (but that is working, it gets updated)
19:55:51 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - ah, ok
19:56:12 <Lemon> I had a good period when I was getting lots of hifi gear :>
19:56:25 <Lemon> I went up with a 1.2k euros headphones/dac-amp setup
19:56:29 <Lemon> it was ultra dope
19:56:34 <Lemon> but ended up selling it
19:56:50 <Lemon> for iems I tried a lot of top tier stuff, priced at 1.5k-2k euros
19:56:53 <hsn93> ysjoelfir i've never done access to router through outer network .. i think this is security issue if u can ..
19:56:54 <Lemon> but its all a joke to me
19:57:38 <Ysjoelfir> well, I can't access any PC behind the router either
19:58:33 <hsn93> does it have remote managment option ?
19:59:05 <hsn93> ysjoelfir, ok u need to open a port forward to it i think ..
19:59:19 <Ysjoelfir> I think so, too. but... how?
19:59:24 <hsn93> access it from local network ..
19:59:24 <Ysjoelfir> remote management in which sense?
19:59:37 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I do that. what now?
19:59:48 <hsn93> it should have (port forward)
19:59:54 <hsn93> option
20:00:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes, it has
20:00:11 <hsn93> ok
20:00:35 <hsn93> now u should forward some port like (port 80) if u run website on one of ur pcs
20:00:39 <hsn93> to that local ip
20:00:58 <hsn93> like (192.168.1.4) < ur pc that has webserver running on port 80
20:01:20 <Ysjoelfir> yep. did that. but its like it doesn't even reach the router
20:01:25 <hsn93> so in router u do forward (port 80) incoming connections to (192.168.1.4)
20:01:31 <hsn93> oh
20:01:32 <hsn93> ok
20:01:37 <hsn93> ping ?
20:01:47 <Ysjoelfir> as if I can't even reach the routers web interface, how can I reach anything behind it?
20:01:57 <Ysjoelfir> ping the dyndns?
20:01:57 <hsn93> no ,, u can ..
20:02:42 <hsn93> i think (routers web interface) is made for (local network) only .. because they dont want it to be open for public people so they dont enter to ur router
20:03:28 <hsn93> do u know (NAT) ?
20:04:05 <hsn93> like what it does?
20:05:06 <hsn93> <Ysjoelfir> remote management in which sense?
20:05:17 <hsn93> https://techwiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/remote_management.jpg << like this one
20:05:20 <hsn93> https://techwiser.com/access-your-router/
20:07:21 <hsn93> if u make (port forward) like (port 80) to one "local ip" that has web server .. and then access it from outside network the router will forward the requests to that "local ip" and reply back with what ever that server replies
20:09:33 <Ysjoelfir> ok. let me try some things I think I just learned :D
20:14:50 <Ysjoelfir> oook... so my NAS needs to restart to try what I want to try. lets just hope that every one of the 12 HDDs spin up again correctly and that it doesn't want to rebuild its raid :X
20:15:39 <hsn93> how much a NAS cost?
20:16:03 <Ysjoelfir> in my case nothing as I build it using stuff I had left over
20:16:25 <hsn93> in my case ? :)
20:16:32 <hsn93> more than my salary ? :')
20:17:03 <Ysjoelfir> pff.. no idea? get a cheap hardware setup and a cheap case and stuff as many HDDs in there as you like
20:17:12 <hsn93> https://www.newegg.com/global/bh-en/synology-ds418/p/N82E16822108681?item=N82E16822108681&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlebhadwords-global-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlebhadwords-global-pc-_-pla-_-network+-+storage-_-N82E16822108681&gclid=CjwKCAjw88v3BRBFEiwApwLevaRUukSbuyntaQftVIcqP4ORt98XdPW0QgTnv1TOAInVSzgPTUPvcBoCFjkQAvD_BwE
20:17:28 <hsn93> Default/ Max. Memory: 2GB ????
20:17:40 <hsn93> does it have its own memory also ?
20:17:43 <Ysjoelfir> I personally use an old server I had salvaged from my ex work with 12 HDDs I have collected over the time and a very nice but expensive RAID controller
20:18:10 <Ysjoelfir> what they mean with memory is - in this case - RAM, I assume
20:18:30 <Ysjoelfir> I think those synologys can be used with up to 8TB disks
20:19:24 <hsn93> ok
20:19:24 <Ysjoelfir> crap. NAS can't be reached anymors :X I forgot to put anydesk into autostart. DOH! >_>
20:19:51 <Ysjoelfir> so no more network shenanigans for me today from work :D
20:19:56 <hsn93> xD
20:20:16 <Ysjoelfir> looks like I HAVE to finally do something productive here...
20:20:49 <hsn93> and i have this fucking borring job over here .. filling BOM list >_<
20:21:00 <Ysjoelfir> sounds fun :)
20:21:00 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/gnztPw.jpg
20:21:20 <Ysjoelfir> you want to start routing my layout instead?
20:22:01 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SQYxeSiau39V6t5BNEEGKyRDGO6a-eB/view?usp=sharing
20:22:18 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RFtCKeZPVwJEWp0URVzcyx25AtGGxes3/view?usp=sharing
20:23:11 <hsn93> 2 layers?
20:23:15 <Ysjoelfir> 4
20:23:34 <hsn93> dude i love this color scheme
20:23:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: World of Engineering: Nature's state-of-the-art stabilization. https://t.co/uMchBZrHb4
20:23:48 <hsn93> mine is the blue red thingy
20:23:52 <Ysjoelfir> I like it, too. way nicer to the eye than altium standard
20:24:08 <Ysjoelfir> I switched most colors to a.... more like a pastel kind of color
20:24:54 <hsn93> how much estimate work for routing?
20:24:57 <hsn93> hours?
20:25:05 <Ysjoelfir> around 40
20:25:11 <hsn93> shit :)
20:25:28 <Ysjoelfir> including redesigns because there is not enough space
20:25:55 <hsn93> ah
20:26:11 <Ysjoelfir> that giant RAM on the bottom side (blue, that WSON 8 package) needs to become smaller, I don't like the position of the button (right) and the two LEDs (up-right)
20:26:43 <Ysjoelfir> maybe I'll switch to BGA for the CPU (that big TQFP on the orange top side)
20:27:09 <hsn93> why ram ?
20:27:14 <Ysjoelfir> pardon
20:27:15 <Ysjoelfir> flash
20:27:17 <hsn93> what does this thing do ?
20:27:20 <hsn93> oh ok
20:27:30 <Ysjoelfir> its tracking motions
20:27:38 <Ysjoelfir> not allowed to tell you more details, sorry
20:27:43 <hsn93> no problem
20:29:56 <Ysjoelfir> ha! NAS is alive again! must have been intelligent and have already put that into autostart. I think it just needed a while to restart because of win updates? who knows
20:29:59 <hsn93> so this is "pcb drive enclosure design" thingy
20:30:00 <Ysjoelfir> howeder: lunch time!
20:30:52 <hsn93> enjoy
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21:27:32 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/jfa1jaupls651.jpg
21:31:01 <Ysjoelfir> good to know that my bouncer can connect to the network while I can't connect to the bouncer :D
21:35:06 <Ysjoelfir_> Test
21:35:14 <Ysjoelfir> uh
21:35:18 <Ysjoelfir> seems to work somehow
21:39:18 * steve30 hugs T3sl4
21:39:50 <T3sl4> *steve30ly hugs*
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21:46:20 <Ysjoelfir> Hmm.. lets see how this works. :D If I understood Ampera and that thing correctly I should be able to see everything I write now when I log in back at home.
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21:58:37 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, not that simple, you need to do some setup with ZNC
21:58:44 <Ampera> most clients don't automagically work with it
21:58:56 <Ampera> https://wiki.znc.in/Playback
21:59:15 <Ampera> https://wiki.znc.in/Backlog
21:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> I noticed. when I parted and rejoined it showed me that:
21:59:32 <Ampera> two different options
21:59:34 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:39:18] * steve30 hugs T3sl4
21:59:35 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:39:18] * steve30 hugs T3sl4
21:59:35 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:39:50] <T3sl4> *steve30ly hugs*
21:59:35 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:41:55] * steve30 falls asleep
21:59:35 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:41:57] * Ysjoelfir is now known as Ys_tries_znc
21:59:35 <Ysjoelfir> [2020-06-24 13:42:06] * Ysjoelfir_ is now known as Ysjoelfir
21:59:41 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't look exactly right :D
22:00:46 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/Yaia4mi.jpg i'm seein double here, four Ysjoelfirs
22:01:30 <Ysjoelfir> huh? :D four?
22:02:15 <steve30> Where did those eight Ysjoelfirs come from?
22:04:41 <T3sl4> 16 steves and a partridge in a pear tree?!
22:07:58 <steve30> I hope the AC man comes soon. I'm almost asleep.
22:08:08 * steve30 hates having to wait for something while tired
22:17:23 * Ysjoelfir puts some energy drink infused extra stron cola into steve30's quadruple espresso
22:18:04 <rust_collector> mornings
22:22:18 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
22:22:32 <rust_collector> hi you
22:23:46 * Ysjoelfir sits in a corner and cries because Ampera thinks he can understand how to compile those modules even though the only thing he knows about linux is that it is somehow connected to penguins
22:24:10 <rust_collector> modules?
22:24:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://wiki.znc.in/Playback
22:24:37 <Ysjoelfir> wth am I supposed to do to.... install.... that?
22:24:53 <rust_collector> well,
22:25:50 <rust_collector> is that going in your router?
22:28:14 <rust_collector> or computer?
22:28:24 <Ysjoelfir> no, on my NAS. which is a windows PC
22:28:32 <rust_collector> ok
22:30:04 <rust_collector> Warning: If you're going to install ZNC on your local Windows machine, it will probably be useless. You should run it on some machine (Windows or not), which is connected to internet 24/7.
22:30:04 <rust_collector> Cygwin
22:30:04 <rust_collector> ZNC is available in list of cygwin packages.
22:30:04 <rust_collector> Download Cygwin, install it. When choosing list of packages to install, search for "znc".
22:30:04 <rust_collector> If you don't want to use the provided packages, you can compile ZNC from source; for that you'll need the following packages installed: automake, gcc-g++, libicu-devel, make, mpfr, pkg-config, openssl-devel, zlib-devel. After installing these packages proceed to source tarball section (or git)
22:30:07 <rust_collector> WSL
22:30:11 <rust_collector> After ensuring that WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) itself works, follow the Linux instructions above.
22:30:23 * Ysjoelfir used the cygwin approach
22:30:30 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, they should be available as binaries...
22:30:46 <Ampera> I think they're even in the AUR on Arch Linux, so you have a pretty fool-proof build script
22:30:54 <Ampera> but yeah, ZNC requires knowledge to operate
22:31:39 <Ysjoelfir> well, it seems to work rather nice at the moment, but I have no idea what to do in regards to that module :D
22:31:54 <Ampera> I forgot how I installed it
22:32:00 <Ampera> I'm not even using Linux for ZNC, so I couldn't say
22:32:10 <Ysjoelfir> what do you use?
22:32:15 <Ampera> BSD
22:32:21 <Ysjoelfir> that... isn't linux?
22:32:23 <Ampera> no
22:32:28 <Ysjoelfir> ok
22:32:30 <Ampera> it's Unix
22:32:36 <Ysjoelfir> sounds simmilar
22:32:45 <Ampera> Linux is like Unix, but is not Unix
22:32:49 <Ampera> which is why it's called a unix-like
22:32:58 <Ampera> BSD is Unix, pretty much
22:33:00 <Ysjoelfir> so its like that rectangle-square thing?
22:33:05 <Ampera> the wha
22:33:19 <Ysjoelfir> a square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square
22:33:34 <Ampera> no
22:33:39 <Ampera> Linux is not Unix, Unix is not Linux
22:33:51 <Ampera> With some exceptions, no Linux is Unix, and with no exceptions, no Unix is Linux
22:34:12 <rust_collector> ok, I am going to look at a van
22:34:20 <Ampera> rust_collector, uh oh, a man with a van
22:34:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.pngkey.com/png/detail/66-661421_jackie-chan-wtf-meme-jackie-chan.png
22:34:43 <Ysjoelfir> whatever
22:34:45 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, they're different operating systems, with different, even if related, histories
22:34:54 <Ampera> they run different software, and have different standards and mechanisms for doing things
22:35:25 <Ysjoelfir> so its like a fork of the same original thing
22:35:30 <Ampera> no
22:35:34 <Ysjoelfir> .
22:35:35 <Ysjoelfir> .
22:35:44 * Ysjoelfir just goes back to his corner and cries
22:35:46 <Ampera> Linux was developed as a completely separate piece of software to be /like/ Unix
22:35:48 <Ampera> but it's not
22:36:11 <Ysjoelfir> I think get that part
22:36:13 <Ampera> Linux is a kernel and just that, people run whatever userlands and software they want on it, and it can be as compliant or not compliant at all to Unix, which is a fully fledged operating system
22:36:30 <Ysjoelfir> aah, ok, its starting to get clearer
22:36:53 <Ampera> I use FreeBSD, which is an entire operating system organized by the project, including a filesystem, userland, utilities, package management, everything
22:37:12 <Ampera> whereas Linux requires other people to construct and add that together, and the mechanisms for relating that to the kernel are fairly different
22:37:35 <Ysjoelfir> ok. I think I understand that.
22:41:49 <Ysjoelfir> So... now back to that module thing. let me see if I can find it as a binary
22:42:29 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, you're using Cygwin?
22:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes
22:42:41 <Ampera> won't exist
22:42:44 <Ysjoelfir> meh
22:42:45 <Ampera> you'll have to build it yourself
22:42:51 <Ysjoelfir> how do I do that
22:42:55 <Ampera> uhh
22:43:07 <Ampera> in general if it's a makefile, you just need make and the gcc toolchain and you should be good
22:43:14 <Ampera> there might be some other dependencies you have to resolve yourself
22:43:32 <Ampera> but as I don't use cygwin, and try not to, it's a bit complicated to explain it over IRC
22:44:14 <Ysjoelfir> maybe I should finally think about migrating my NAS to a more reasonable operating system
22:44:46 <Ampera> have fun
22:44:51 <Ysjoelfir> I have encountered many situations where I was like "hey, that piece of software looks cool, I want to try it - oh, its linux only. meh.
22:45:14 <Ysjoelfir> but otoh, I don't think I HAVE to
22:45:46 <Ysjoelfir> it'll be another thing that takes like huge amounts of time to learn for a (for me) pretty small advantage in the end
22:54:21 <steve30> AC men are here
22:54:28 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
22:56:20 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I disagree, I've gained personally and professionally from my having taken the time to understand how Linux (and FreeBSD) work
22:56:42 <Ampera> It's given me insight into computers work, and allowed to be considerably more efficient in my life and work.
23:03:14 <steve30> I always struggle compiling software from source
23:03:25 <steve30> I never seem to have the required dependencies
23:03:39 <Ampera> that's why a good ports tree is always nice
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23:09:34 <Zagroseckt> Hello everyone... Any one wana talk scopes? i'm wimbeling my ars off trying to choose.
23:11:00 <steve30> Personally, I like CRT scopes
23:12:11 <Zagroseckt> Ya i'd prefer something with a vga output myself but ebay's not been nice to me so i'm getting a new one.
23:12:41 <steve30> i have a bog standard 20MHz Hitachi CRT scope
23:13:56 <Zagroseckt> Theres a Hantek DSO5102P Digital Storage Oscilloscope USB 100MHz 1GSa/s 40K,2 Channel,2CH for 239 on amazon right now.
23:14:19 <coppice> There usually is
23:14:48 <coppice> sometimes they discount them to 219 or even 199
23:14:51 <Zagroseckt> And that one seems software hackabul with a bios change to 200mhz. or i could pay 299 for the exact same scope DSO5202p
23:15:54 <Zagroseckt> i've looked over the hack and it's less than i do to my pc's motherboard sooo... but i'm wimbeling over the veries names
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23:17:01 <Zagroseckt> rygol i get agelint i get but who is sigalent and Owon (probly spelled some of those wrong)
23:18:45 <Zagroseckt> Hantek is a bit of a lowball but seems to have alot of info online.. the big guys seem to rip you on price v/s featurs. i'm so confused :p
23:19:24 <coppice> Those scopes are a bit basic, but they work well.
23:19:58 <Zagroseckt> I hate not having past experience to fall back on. not like i can afford a decent tektronix wich is the only brand i've actuily used.
23:20:34 <coppice> if you only have 239 to spend that Hantek is about the best value
23:21:35 <Zagroseckt> Heres my use case. (basick repair and signal noise testing in vr headsets) Tracing a missing a signal on a vive lighthouse (err tracking down the missing signal) Tons of pi and arduino projects.
23:22:41 <Zagroseckt> The vr headsets i deal with most are eather liquid/sweat damige or Bad left over flux resedue mucking up signal paths.
23:23:38 <Zagroseckt> Well i have a bit more but it's like hitting me .. this is one of those tool things i need but dont but do :p god i should just buy the dam thing get it over with
23:23:45 <Zagroseckt> was hoping to find someone who uses one.
23:25:11 <Zagroseckt> Why couldn't i just buy another 3d printer .. sight those i know inside out.
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23:26:03 <Zagroseckt> hello Ysjoelfir
23:26:13 <Ysjoelfir> Hello
23:26:13 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
23:26:44 <Zagroseckt> Oh ya ... i'm finaly getting a new oscope becose i can now SEE the blasted things again just got a cataract removed.
23:27:33 <Zagroseckt> been years since i've been able to dig into electronics like this.. and i'm having a blast :p
23:35:13 <Ysjoelfir> thats great :)
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23:49:13 <Ys_tries_to_bounce> Hmmm...
23:49:26 <Zagroseckt> O.o
23:49:28 <Zagroseckt> bounce
23:49:40 <Ys_tries_to_bounce> yes
23:49:46 <Ysjoelfir> I'm trying to bounce
23:50:21 <Ysjoelfir> seems to work, but the backlogging is somewhat annoying as Ampera already assumed xD
23:50:50 <Zagroseckt> ah
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