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00:09:08 * Ysjoelfir knows that urge to "test" things thoroughly :P
00:20:34 <ziga> hello - i'm considering buying an u3pro32 (which seems unsupported by sigrok yet) - looking for feedbacks, has anyone here had the opportunity to play with it yet ?
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01:41:32 <DL3CE> Ysjoelfir .. My boss always asks "Have you tested it thoroughly?" if I hand him an invoice. I can't disappoint him, can I?
01:41:59 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
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03:27:42 <MrMobodies> Hello
03:27:42 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
03:27:52 <MrMobodies> I have found a new annoyance on Ebay.
03:27:56 <MrMobodies> ebay.co.uk###loadSpinner
03:28:26 <MrMobodies> everytime I look at someone's feedback and click something the page flips from white to dark to white.
03:28:36 <MrMobodies> strains my eyes when it does that
03:28:53 <MrMobodies> but not it is hidden no problem
03:29:27 <MrMobodies> and also the spinner thing everytime on the search results too
03:29:40 <MrMobodies> I wonder what were they thinking
03:30:08 <MrMobodies> nice and cool today
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03:47:20 <photonmagic> elo every1
03:56:20 <hsn> did u miss my disconnects :> ?
04:02:23 * photonmagic is lost
04:02:39 <hsn> elo photomagic
04:02:46 <photonmagic> hru hsn
04:04:49 <hsn> ig and u?
04:05:16 <photonmagic> hot af! lol not your fault tho
04:05:29 <hsn> u r hot?
04:05:33 <hsn> sexually?
04:05:43 <photonmagic> lol
04:05:46 <photonmagic> 32c
04:05:59 <hsn> why did u get "exsited" haha
04:06:21 <photonmagic> exsited? when
04:06:23 <hsn> excited ..
04:06:26 <photonmagic> lol
04:07:15 <photonmagic> sahara dust + hot ass sun = no good man
04:07:16 <hsn> im going to waste my time now with ps4 .. :( .. see u
04:07:25 <hsn> wait
04:07:29 <photonmagic> have fun man
04:07:33 <hsn> sahara?
04:07:54 <hsn> what r u doin in africa
04:08:06 <photonmagic> yea i live in the caribbean and the sahara desert blows giant amounts of dust into the air, they cross the atlantic and end up here
04:08:41 <photonmagic> some days everything appear to be yellow, the sky and all
04:08:56 <hsn> well i live in bahrain .. i think it will be hot as much
04:09:05 <photonmagic> for sure!
04:09:08 <hsn> but dust is a bitch ..
04:09:26 <photonmagic> indeed
04:09:51 <photonmagic> change of subjet for a sec, would you happen to know about mosfets>?
04:10:23 <hsn> im the muppet in electronics here ..
04:10:45 <hsn> ask me i might be usefull ..
04:10:45 <photonmagic> im studying but i get headaches teaching myself lol
04:10:52 <rust_collector> I am the swedish chef in electronics here
04:10:58 <photonmagic> LOL!
04:11:08 <rust_collector> bork bork bork bork
04:11:36 <photonmagic> well i have an old motherboard im trying to diag, and i took out a mosfet that is suspicious to me
04:11:58 <photonmagic> when i test for continuity i get no beeps at all in any positions
04:12:28 <rust_collector> do you have any diodes or caps near the mosfet, that is shorted, maybe?
04:12:43 <photonmagic> not visually bad
04:12:52 <photonmagic> i removed it from the motherboard
04:13:07 <photonmagic> still no continuity in any pints
04:13:12 <photonmagic> pins*
04:14:13 <photonmagic> nikos P2003BDG
04:14:48 <hsn> should u get continuity ?
04:15:42 <photonmagic> i would guess so since theres another of the same next to it and it does beep on source
04:15:55 <rust_collector> I don't remember, but I think they should be like a diode between something and something?
04:16:23 <hsn> rusty (source to drain) mosfet body diode
04:16:41 <rust_collector> well, ok mr wizard
04:16:49 <hsn> im not :)
04:16:53 <rust_collector> yes
04:17:16 <rust_collector> you just need a tall pointy hat with stars
04:17:18 <hsn> ysjoelfir , tesla , others .. are .. im just a muppet
04:17:33 <photonmagic> =D im thinking its bad, i tried shorting the gate and drain as a video i saw said to then test gate and source but nothing happens
04:17:59 <hsn> so u want to test a mosfet ?
04:18:00 <photonmagic> im noobin =D
04:18:18 <photonmagic> yes sir i want to learn to find faults in motherboards =D
04:18:50 <hsn> i dont know in diagnostic but i found one great channel few days ago let me share it
04:19:05 <photonmagic> sure any help i will appreciate
04:19:39 <photonmagic> its pretty hard not having anyone to share info like in my case =] so im greatful
04:19:50 <Ampera> gonna put five guys in my mouth real soon
04:20:36 <Ampera> delicious
04:20:43 <Ampera> if the delivery guy ever gets here
04:20:51 <photonmagic> i hope ur talking about grapes or something similar
04:22:14 <hsn> https://youtu.be/EWuzmIz7hOE
04:22:51 <photonmagic> ah, ive seen this guy, maybe not this video tho
04:22:53 <hsn> ampera eats humans ..
04:23:03 <Ampera> photonmagic, no grapes
04:23:06 <Ampera> not similar to grapes
04:23:17 <Ampera> hsn, I'm not eating humans.
04:23:22 <hsn> also i think if the mosfet doesnt beep then its good ..
04:23:26 <rust_collector> hsn, it is not illegal to eat people in the states of united americas
04:23:33 <Ampera> ^
04:23:40 <hsn> he eats 5 humans
04:23:44 <Ampera> genuinely no statute exists federally that prohibits the consumption of people
04:23:47 <photonmagic> it is in survival situations
04:23:50 <hsn> sandwiched
04:23:51 <Ampera> however it's five guys
04:24:21 <Ampera> I get them to deliver every so often
04:24:27 <Ampera> they're cheap, but I always can't find a tip
04:24:45 <rust_collector> it is a super monster pizza, so they do need 5 guys to deliver
04:24:46 <photonmagic> so u like to eat the tips
04:24:47 <Ampera> er, no they're not, they're actuall quite expensive
04:24:49 <Ampera> but they're good
04:25:10 <hsn> yummy i wana burger now
04:25:14 <Ampera> photonmagic, no, but it's good practice to give them a tip whenevery they come round
04:25:31 <hsn> always tip the pizza guy
04:25:35 <photonmagic> true
04:25:39 <hsn> or he spit on ur door mat
04:25:48 <Ampera> hsn, I don't have a doormat
04:26:01 <hsn> he will find alternative
04:26:02 <photonmagic> or ur food! nooo
04:26:26 <Ampera> He's comming round soon
04:26:32 <Ampera> excited for my five guys
04:26:51 <hsn> actually tips is not common system here
04:27:44 <Ampera> I got a couple burgers for myself, one for my brother
04:27:49 <Ampera> and 25kg of fries
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04:29:46 <rust_collector> I think tips is a part of the income for many people in that industry, in the us. We do in general not tip up here either, unless you feel like it
04:30:56 <photonmagic> now i want pizza
04:31:18 <hsn> i want (pizza, burger, fries)
04:32:24 <photonmagic> covid has my local pizza guy shut down
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04:34:13 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak
04:36:53 <ThunderSqueak> hi T3sl4
04:37:09 <T3sl4> how are you?
04:37:32 <ThunderSqueak> doing good
04:38:36 <T3sl4> i'm just watchin vidya games and sipping a beer
04:38:56 <Ampera> rust_collector, here the minimum wage is lower for people who get tips
04:39:06 <Ampera> so it is indeed a way for employers to pay their staff less
04:39:30 * T3sl4 hugs one of Ampera's guys
04:46:19 * rust_collector is making pizza
05:11:33 <hsn> ampera
05:11:41 <Ampera> hsn,
05:11:49 <hsn> is this normal in znc
05:11:55 <hsn> [21:38] ** You are now disconnected (Read error: ssl=0x75a94d63c8: I/O error during system call, Software caused connection abort)
05:12:06 <Ampera> normal?
05:12:06 <Ampera> no
05:12:12 <hsn> lol
05:13:04 <hsn> like , its security problem?
05:13:58 <Ampera> looks like a crash of some sort
05:14:02 <Ampera> but I have no clue, I've never seen it
05:14:13 <Ampera> maybe a firewall closed the port
05:21:25 <hsn> does firewalls close suddenly?
05:22:03 <hsn> close ports ..
05:22:15 <hsn> i thought its like either open or close
05:23:19 <rust_collector> either open or closed makes it very sudden
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05:46:51 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, live stream today. in 20 minutes, if you care
05:48:20 <Ysjoelfir> thanks rusty, might look into it
05:48:27 * T3sl4 noogies Ysjoelfir
05:48:36 <Ysjoelfir> :O
05:48:38 <rust_collector> squeak squeak squeak
05:49:43 <rust_collector> do you make swmbo look at that sort of things? I think it would explain some of your quirks to her
05:51:10 <T3sl4> i'll explain your quirks..!
05:51:24 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR5vbxguY3g
05:51:25 <rust_collector> just a moment, pleeease
05:57:50 <MrMobodies> That's nice video
05:58:11 <MrMobodies> oh I mean the board repair one
05:59:01 <MrMobodies> I found one years ago but it had an Indian and i could not understand what he was saying. But was looking for shorts to and found a an inductor was at fault as he was unsoldering them
06:00:09 <MrMobodies> I never knew they could break down and go open circuit.
06:00:26 <rust_collector> anything can fail
06:02:02 <rust_collector> or, everything
06:02:29 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, only 2:30 left!
06:02:37 <rust_collector> WOOOO!
06:02:43 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure clive is sitting in front of the cam, already drinking a beer and combing his beard
06:02:47 <rust_collector> what is todays beverage?
06:02:54 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea
06:03:09 <Ysjoelfir> I hope not again Jägermeister :X
06:03:24 <rust_collector> I did mean for you.
06:03:26 * T3sl4 whiskys Ysjoelfir
06:03:30 <Ysjoelfir> oh
06:03:43 <Ysjoelfir> good question
06:03:49 <Ysjoelfir> let me check what I have in the fridge
06:04:11 <Ysjoelfir> or... on the fridge, as thats where we store most of our beverages
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06:13:06 <Ysjoelfir> I think I go for zapata, rust_collector
06:13:36 <rust_collector> mmh, ok
06:17:29 <Ysjoelfir> do you know that stuff? its gooooooood
06:17:43 <rust_collector> noooo
06:21:52 <rust_collector> that looks good to me
06:28:26 <Ysjoelfir> it is
06:45:10 <MrMobodies> Hello
06:45:27 <Ysjoelfir> hmmm, champagne slushies!
06:45:30 <Ysjoelfir> hi
06:45:31 <MrMobodies> Anyone noticed some changes on Ebay starting from from I think last week
06:45:42 <rust_collector> nope
06:46:04 <MrMobodies> When I search, results go blank, SPINNER, 2 second delay new results
06:46:27 <MrMobodies> It was only an element responsible for the spinner and overlay
06:46:41 <MrMobodies> and now looking at feedback, they set it to dim the page
06:46:49 <MrMobodies> well flip from white to dark to white
06:46:59 <Antarez> you has me at champagne slushies
06:47:05 <rust_collector> ok. so it still works then
06:47:32 <MrMobodies> ebay.co.uk###loadSpinner
06:47:58 <MrMobodies> I think hiding that one stops the page dimming and is a parent element of the spinner
06:48:59 * Ysjoelfir redirects Antarez to bigclives livestream
06:50:57 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/hPUXMYJ
06:52:07 <MrMobodies> I rely on sellers feedback to make choices but when they flip my screen like that it makes me feel uncomfortable to my eyes.
06:52:44 <MrMobodies> and I rely on Adblock hoping that element is no a parent element of something that I need working
06:53:29 <MrMobodies> but everytime that thing appears on search it seems to delay the results and without it it seems instant.
06:56:17 <rust_collector> I notice I am pretty happy about not caring about that kind of stuff.
06:57:17 <MrMobodies> I think I am over sensitive to things like that
06:57:50 <MrMobodies> There is something not quite right with me, what I think isn't normal maybe normal for others.
06:58:14 <MrMobodies> Of course I have my reasons but what annoys me doesn't annoy everyone else
06:58:25 <rust_collector> well, have you used an alternative browser, to see how that works for you?
06:58:27 <MrMobodies> seeing how you are happy and don't mind
06:58:42 <MrMobodies> oh nonono, it isn't the browser it is the website
06:58:44 <MrMobodies> ebay
06:58:52 <MrMobodies> but I have used different browsers
06:59:03 <rust_collector> I am not happy that it exists, but I just do not use enough time there to care
06:59:22 <rust_collector> I mean... a completely different browser. maybe dillo, or elinks?
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06:59:49 <MrMobodies> I'll look at those but I have experimented on vivaldi
07:00:06 <MrMobodies> Microsoft Edge, Chromium, Firefox recent with some modifications
07:00:17 <rust_collector> yes, but that is just one more of the chrome spins.
07:00:47 <MrMobodies> https://www.dillo.org/
07:01:01 <MrMobodies> be interesting to see different rendering engines in action
07:01:24 <MrMobodies> I know Palemoon is based on AROUND Firefox 20x
07:01:49 <rust_collector> dillo does not do nice things. but it is a browser. if it does what you need, it would be good. if not, thenn, well, it is not
07:02:13 <MrMobodies> I'll take alook at that and this one
07:02:14 <MrMobodies> http://elinks.or.cz/
07:02:33 <MrMobodies> thank you for mentioning those,
07:02:43 <rust_collector> by default, "everything" is turned off, in dillo.
07:02:47 <MrMobodies> more to the world than Chromium
07:02:51 <MrMobodies> turned off.... lovelly
07:02:52 <rust_collector> yees
07:03:04 <MrMobodies> just as I'd expect
07:07:09 <rust_collector> you would probably not want to use it as your only browser... but if it works for certain things...
07:07:42 <hsn> who is live guys
07:07:51 <rust_collector> chunky clive
07:08:05 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-BLKU_PM4
07:08:05 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-BLKU_PM4&feature=youtu.be
07:08:07 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy
07:08:11 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:09:31 <hsn> ah i was looking in the wrong channel didnt know he have this one
07:09:32 <hsn> thz
07:09:33 <hsn> x
07:11:12 <MrMobodies> His room is looking good
07:11:28 <MrMobodies> with all those little component trays on the walls
07:11:38 <MrMobodies> and the paint looks nice too
07:12:04 <rust_collector> that is not really a room, it is just a little hallway sort of area
07:13:45 <MrMobodies> I see the room behind
07:13:47 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/zI2fcL7.jpg
07:16:28 <MrMobodies> going out for a walk
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09:03:03 <Ysjoelfir> now its getting interesting
09:03:20 <rust_collector> you like old pics?
09:03:32 <Ysjoelfir> yep
09:03:56 <rust_collector> right, I did know that, when i engage brain
09:19:13 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K41IMe28zhg
09:24:03 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll be off to bed. gn8 all
09:24:24 <rust_collector> ok, be up early tomorrow
09:24:37 <rust_collector> good night
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09:49:31 <photonmagic> =Þ
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11:44:16 <Halcyon> T3sl4: Yeh I've seen that one. Cockatoos are real assholes sometimes :P
11:44:58 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2mx3m6zYCI
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16:23:17 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
16:24:40 <steve30> hi Halcyon
16:24:46 <Halcyon> How are you?
16:24:57 <steve30> i just got up. Slept nicely though
16:25:13 <hsn> good job steve
16:26:01 <Halcyon> :)
16:27:33 <hsn> (:
16:27:40 <Halcyon> I'm thinking of buying a new TV
16:27:48 <steve30> Curry was nice last night
16:27:56 <Halcyon> A lot more content seems to be coming out in HDR now
16:27:56 <hsn> dont think halcyon
16:28:08 <Halcyon> What curry did you have Steve?
16:28:17 <steve30> chicken jalfrezi
16:28:23 <hsn> curry is the water food thingy ?
16:28:32 <Halcyon> Water food?
16:28:34 <hsn> food in water thingy ^
16:28:41 <Halcyon> Water?
16:28:44 <hsn> like soup
16:28:54 <Halcyon> I think you're thinking of Laksa
16:29:13 <Halcyon> You've never had curry before?
16:29:53 <hsn> no, i was thinking of "broth" i guess
16:30:21 <hsn> but in arabic we have a name of all the types of "broths"
16:30:35 <hsn> so i thought curry is an equivelent name
16:31:01 <hsn> i think i did
16:31:10 <Halcyon> Curry is a broad term for a lot of spiced dishes from India and some parts of Asia
16:31:11 <hsn> indian hot broth right
16:31:36 <Halcyon> Well, it doesn't have to be soupy. Some curry's are quite dry in comparison
16:31:43 <hsn> ah
16:31:46 <hsn> ok
16:31:58 <hsn> "soupy" , "brothy" << is there name for that ?
16:32:04 <hsn> type of food
16:32:09 <Halcyon> But they pack a lot of flavour, usually cumin, ginger, chilli etc... cooked with vegetables and/or meat.
16:32:20 <Halcyon> Not really, it's more creamy
16:32:25 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry
16:32:32 <hsn> chicken curry i had
16:32:35 <Halcyon> Commonly served with rice, but you can get ones with noodles
16:33:19 <Halcyon> Quite easy to make hsn and you can make them as mild or as hot as you like
16:33:23 <hsn> butter chicken , chicken masala <3
16:33:33 <Halcyon> Yup
16:34:08 <Halcyon> I love Vindaloo, the hotter the better
16:34:30 <Halcyon> My test of a good Indian restaurant is if they can make it so hot that my face starts to tingle
16:35:09 <hsn> the real problem starts at the toilet later
16:35:11 <hsn> xD
16:35:17 <Halcyon> Sometimes
16:35:31 <Halcyon> I've become quite used to it
16:35:58 <hsn> but "hot" is really differs from person to person ..
16:36:15 <Halcyon> Absolutely
16:36:15 <steve30> I had a play with my 21" trinitron yesterday. I think there's a loose connection of some kind inside it
16:36:35 <Halcyon> I think is someone who didn't eat chilli, ate my version of hot, they would end up in hospital
16:36:46 * Halcyon plays with Steve's 21"
16:36:53 <hsn> nice
16:37:02 <hsn> is there chilli meter ? :)
16:37:05 <Halcyon> What makes you think that Steve?
16:37:14 <Halcyon> Yep, sure is hsn, it's called the Scoville Scale
16:37:29 <steve30> When I tap the back of it, it flickers
16:37:48 <Halcyon> Usually a good sign of a dry joint or something loose
16:39:10 <hsn> wtf this bird is doing : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malagueta_pepper#/media/File:Sayaca_Tanager_feeding_on_malagueta_peppers.jpg
16:39:34 <Halcyon> Most birds can't taste the "heat" from chillis
16:39:47 <Halcyon> My parrot eats chilli
16:40:18 <Halcyon> Actually, it's a good way of preventing possums from eating bird seed left outside. Sprinkle some chilli seeds in. The birds will eat it, the possums and other animals won't.
16:41:03 <steve30> Halcyon, would you have one of these?
16:41:04 <steve30> https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Guatemalan_Insanity_Pepper
16:41:12 <Halcyon> Hahaha
16:41:26 <Halcyon> I only eat those with a candle
16:41:31 * hsn give halcyon "pepper X"
16:41:54 <Halcyon> I've tasted my capsicum spray at work. It's spicy but not that hot.
16:41:55 <hsn> with label "cold chilli"
16:42:00 <Halcyon> I wouldn't want to get it in my eye though
16:42:39 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray#/media/File:MCMAP1.jpg
16:43:04 <Halcyon> Yep, hurts like hell in the eyes
16:43:34 <Halcyon> hsn, I should send you a few jars of local chilli sauces
16:44:13 <steve30> mmm, that coffee was nice
16:44:23 <hsn> local = real local ?
16:44:25 <Halcyon> Did you grind your own beans Steve?
16:44:37 <steve30> no, i get them ready ground
16:44:39 <Halcyon> hsn: Yep, grown and made not too far from me
16:44:49 <Halcyon> No Chinese chillis in this house
16:45:30 <hsn> thats nice of you .. im afraid of them .. consider that u send them allready :P
16:45:53 <Halcyon> Haha no, really. Some of them are very nice. They aren't stupid hot.
16:46:12 <Halcyon> https://thechillifactory.com/chilli-chili-chile-shop-sauces
16:46:34 <Halcyon> I really like the chilli and wasabi mustard. Goes great on sandwiches
16:46:50 <hsn> what a theme :P
16:47:15 <Halcyon> The chilli, tomato and basil relish is also very nice
16:47:33 <Halcyon> They say it's a 8/10 but I would say it's more of a 2/10
16:47:34 * steve30 could do with another coffee :p
16:48:30 * Halcyon flicks some coffee beans at Steve
16:49:22 <steve30> *purr*
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17:20:42 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
17:21:03 <Halcyon> Aww :)
17:21:06 * Halcyon cuddles Steve back
17:29:59 <steve30> I wish I had a real cuddle buddy
17:30:30 <Halcyon> Naww :(
17:30:40 <Halcyon> Jump on Grindr?
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