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33:28 <Lord_of_nothing_> WOW I won dell stuff
33:37 <K> what dell stuff?
33:49 <Lord_of_nothing_> Your Work From Home kit prize includes a universal dock, a 24” Dell QHD monitor, keyboard and mouse.
33:55 <Lord_of_nothing_> YEY!
34:03 <Ysjoelfir> nice
34:52 <Lord_of_nothing_> well sadly the most keyboard and mice are crap
35:06 <Lord_of_nothing_> who come as default stuff with a pc
35:39 <Lord_of_nothing_> a 24" display today is a little small
36:06 <Lord_of_nothing_> ok ok i use a 24" currently so i would buy a 26" or bigger this days
36:20 <Ysjoelfir> now that you mention it... thats true.
36:23 <Lord_of_nothing_> and not a 16:9 just 16:10
36:25 * Ysjoelfir uses a 31" and a 27"...
36:37 <Lord_of_nothing_> well we will see what it arrive here
36:46 <Lord_of_nothing_> i was need a 3rd display
37:06 <Lord_of_nothing_> here i use 2x hp z24i
40:38 <Lord_of_nothing_> and the display stand should arrive here at 26.06.2020 not 2021.
41:36 <Lord_of_nothing_> can anyone here check if the dns is updated? https://002.at
41:56 <rust_collector> my older dell screen is crap, until I use the displayport.
45:05 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg did you use vga?
46:16 <rust_collector> yep, like always
47:02 <rust_collector> it is not that I expected much from it, but it was close to unusable
51:20 <rust_collector> I like that it has the usb hub thing, so I do not have to dig around behind the computer
58:37 <K> ur wierd.
05:16 <rust_collector> yes, maybe, but I do not have papers saying I am yet
24:05 <rust_collector> ok, I got my 18th of may haircut today. Now I will have my skin peel off, and all kinds of crap again
30:40 <Ysjoelfir> why that?
31:50 <steve30> Lord_of_nothing_, 002.at works for me
32:55 <steve30> I don't think I'd bother with anything bigger than 24". My 24" seems like a nice size :).
40:07 <rust_collector> I can not fit much more than 24. and it is enough for the stuff I do
41:54 <K> it is thyme.
41:58 <K> byee.
42:14 <Ysjoelfir> :O
42:19 * Ysjoelfir hands K a bit of rosemary
51:34 <rust_collector> ok, good night. time to go to work
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56:06 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 ruzty
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40:42 <Nothing\> woohoo
40:50 <Nothing\> i made my first program for a turing machine
41:24 <Nothing\> i found a bunch online and figured out the language for the one. it's actually pretty simple as far as programming goes. but terribly inefficient.
41:57 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
42:31 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 <3
42:36 <Nothing\> heya buddy, how's it hangin?
42:45 <T3sl4> good you?
43:33 <Nothing\> i'm doing pretty good
43:39 <Nothing\> got another kitteh lol
43:45 <T3sl4> meow
43:58 <Nothing\> happneed to get her on the same day my other cat got fixed though and they still don't get along
44:28 <Nothing\> shes' got some spunk though, she' s managed to chase off my older cat who's part maine coon so he he's twice the size of her
44:41 <Nothing\> and he's a lot more viscious than a normal cat=
44:52 <Nothing\> apparently maine coons make good mousers
45:17 <Nothing\> i called her luci cuz she looks just like luci on disenchantment
46:23 <Nothing\> haven't got any good pics of her yet, but she's all black except a patch of white on her chest
46:34 <Nothing\> which is weird cuz i had another cat as a kid with the exact same pattern
47:08 <Nothing\> it's weird how seemingly unrelated cats have such uncannily similar patterns. they must have common ancestors or intertwined lineages or something
47:40 <Nothing\> like i had another cat back in the day with a similar pattern to my older one and she was just as troublesome and viscious as he is
48:25 <T3sl4> not uncommon among cats tho
48:32 <T3sl4> dogs either i spose
48:38 <Nothing\> yeah especially kitten
48:39 <Nothing\> s
49:17 <Nothing\> but these ones, you just walk past them and they'll latch onto your leg with their teeth and front claws and start rabbit kicking the shit out of it with their back paws
49:42 <Nothing\> my hands are covered in scratches from him. but he's been getting better since i've been training him
50:52 <steve30> hehe
50:57 <steve30> kitties ftw :D
51:21 <Nothing\> lol i dunno where i found this pic but it makes me laugh every time i stumble across it
51:23 <Nothing\> https://i.imgur.com/lowJkLJ.jpg
51:36 <Nothing\> steve30, indeed, i've spent most of my life around cats
51:41 <T3sl4> :)
51:44 <Nothing\> except for the last few years
52:13 <Nothing\> i had 3 cats for about the first 17 years of my life
52:42 <steve30> I've never had much to do with cats. I went on a date with one a few years ago, and my ex boyfriend had cats. That's about it though.
52:57 <Nothing\> https://i.imgur.com/CjcHMnjr.jpg
53:02 <Nothing\> there's my little smokey
53:07 <Nothing\> though he's not so little anymore
53:15 <Nothing\> 67cm snout to tail last time i tried to check
53:27 <steve30> aww :)
53:29 <Nothing\> but there's a pretty large margin of error on that. cats are hard to measure
53:44 <Nothing\> apparently maine coons get to be pretty big
53:48 <T3sl4> :3
53:52 <Nothing\> the biggest one on record was 4 feet :o
54:04 <steve30> Don't you have a CAT rated meter?
54:18 <Nothing\> lol i just use a measuring tape
54:41 <Nothing\> and try to do it while he's sleeping. otherwise he just tries to play with it
55:15 <Nothing\> i wanted to take measurements twice a week and plot a graph of his growth
55:45 <Nothing\> i would like to use a scale, but my bathorom scale says he's 12lbs because of the offset i had to put on it
56:17 <Nothing\> they weighed him when he got fixed on monday and he's already 4lbs and he's not even 4 months old yet
57:07 <Nothing\> lol i was eating some cherries last night and he kept trying to get into them, but he'd only try to eat the stems instead of the actual cherries.
57:21 <Nothing\> and he was actually trying to eat them, not just play with them.
58:22 <Nothing\> i wish i colud get the two cats to get along though, i feel bad alwasy having one of them locked in a room
58:50 <Nothing\> i don't remember what we did with the other ones when i had 3 as a kid cuz i do remember they didn't get along initially
59:37 <Nothing\> but the bigger of the two just pounces on the kitten and sinks his teeth into her and starts rabbit kicking the hell out of her. i feel bad.
00:00 <Nothing\> i feel like i should be protecting her from such things and that i'm failing to do so
00:45 <Nothing\> we've just been doing it slow. letting them together for 10-15 minutes at a time a couple times a day and keeping a close eye on them when we do
01:07 <steve30> I guess cats are a bit like humans in that they don't like each other
01:17 <Nothing\> they're very territorial
01:40 <Nothing\> humans like eachother though. humans are naturally social animals
01:53 <Nothing\> you just don't like humans :P and frankly i don't blame you
02:17 <Nothing\> though there is a great deal of tribalism among humans
02:47 <coppice> we aren't tribal. my people would never accept such behaviour
03:12 * steve30 hisses
03:20 <steve30> Since when did humans like each other?
03:45 <Nothing\> steve30, since agriculture, i suppose
04:04 <Nothing\> we're naturally inclined to gather together in groups
04:28 <coppice> only to kick each other in the nuts
04:36 <Nothing\> that's actually part of the reason the who social distancing thing was so difficult to keep up is because people are naturally inclined to gather together in groups
04:48 <Nothing\> coppice, yeah it's kind of a double edged sword in that spect
04:49 <steve30> I guess I might be inclined to like humans who provide me with coffee
04:53 <Nothing\> *respect
05:04 <Nothing\> i don't drink coffee, or caffeine
05:39 <Nothing\> i'm strung out and anxious enough without stimulants
06:12 <Nothing\> though lately i drink a cup maybe once or twice a week on account of my meds make me unreasonably tired
06:39 <Nothing\> and the meds block the anxiogenic effects of the caffeine
06:47 <Nothing\> if that's a word. if not, it is now
08:22 <Nothing\> i'm really tempted to take a dump in my cat's litter box so when my mom goes to clean it out she sees a huge poop in there and thinks "what in the world is wrong with this cat?"
09:46 <Antarez> I did that to my roommate in the 90's, i cleaned out the litterbox for a week before she saw, and then took a huge dump in it
10:05 <Nothing\> haha how'd that go down?
10:33 <Antarez> hilariously
10:35 <Nothing\> or what about peeing in the tank of the toilet, so when they flush it, pee goes into the bowl
11:12 <Antarez> i stopped her from taking the cat to the vet
11:18 <Nothing\> haha
11:30 <steve30> hehe
11:35 <Nothing\> my cat's been pooping a lot lately for some reason, and it's really yellowy
11:56 <Nothing\> i thought maybe i was feeding him too much dairy so i cut him off from human food but he still poops too much
12:02 <Nothing\> the color's fine now though
12:09 <Nothing\> and oh man, he had the nastiest smelling farts
12:32 <Nothing\> i've never had a cat that farted that i could noticed but hooo boy they were nasty
12:33 <Antarez> cat was not amused though, refused to use that box and that location again
12:40 <Nothing\> smelled like he pooped himself
12:46 <Nothing\> haha that's funny
12:53 <Nothing\> i wouldn't have thought that would happen
13:29 <Nothing\> though come to think of it, i was just reading the other day about how cats are even territorial about their litter box
13:41 <Antarez> me neither, but i learded a lot of cat psychology since then
13:43 <Nothing\> how they often won't let new cats use the latter box
14:00 <Nothing\> cats do have pretty interesting psychology
14:23 <Nothing\> it's funy to train them and experiment with them
14:25 <Antarez> I guess the cat was scared of me as new alpha taking his toilet
14:34 <Nothing\> ah yeah that makes sense
14:46 <Nothing\> but he should see you as an alpha anyways, or his owner anyways
16:01 <Nothing\> lol i remember as a teenager my mom had a dog and had all sorts of news paper in the basement for him to go on
16:29 <Nothing\> and when i was too lazy to go upstairs to pee, i'd just go down to that part of the basement and pee on the newspaper
16:33 <Antarez> it's the papers or the couch
16:48 <Nothing\> that dog wasn't too bright though
17:05 <Nothing\> i remember peeing in the backyard, and the dumbass kept running through the stream for fun
17:33 <Ampera> NOTHING!
17:34 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
17:36 * steve30 hates 'going' anywhere other than a toilet
17:36 <Ampera> How do?>
17:41 <Nothing\> Ampera!
17:44 * Nothing\ hug tackles Ampera 
17:49 <Nothing\> i'm doing well, how about you?
17:50 <Antarez> I helped my cat marking his new territory after we moved here
17:50 <Ampera> <3
17:57 <Ampera> I got my new phone
17:59 <Nothing\> lol Antarez
17:59 <Ampera> it's really really goofd
18:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, right on
18:03 <Ampera> *good
18:33 <Nothing\> i thought about getting a phone ,but seeing as i leave the house literally for no more than an hour a week i really odn't need one
18:42 <Nothing\> just need one to use while i make poopy
18:51 <Nothing\> and my mom's phone works fine for that
18:59 <Ampera> Aye, that thought had crossed my mind, but that won't be the cast forever, and this thing is a gaming monster
19:04 <Ampera> this phone does gamecube emulation
19:07 <Nothing\> sometimes to a fault, cuz then i sit there for 20 minutes doing wahtever on it
19:12 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice!
19:20 <Lord_of_nothing_> year my spy station in the garden is allmost ready
19:35 <Nothing\> Lord_of_nothing_, i find your name offensive
19:36 <Nothing\> :P
19:47 <Ampera> I find it hot
19:50 <Lord_of_nothing_> next stop: capture all licence plate from all cars who drive by
20:06 <Nothing\> Lord_of_nothing_, i really should do something with my arduino nanos
20:09 <Lord_of_nothing_> and i live next to the most important road from and to my city
20:20 <Nothing\> i have so many sensors and have finally worked out the kinks in the IDE
20:22 <Lord_of_nothing_> i have still 2 pi v.2 at home
20:34 <Nothing\> i have a pi v3
20:41 <Ampera> I have a pi v4
20:43 <Nothing\> i used it as my primary computer for like a year and a half
20:45 <Nothing\> lol
20:50 <Nothing\> that was "fun"
20:50 <Ampera> and a pinebook pro
21:10 <Nothing\> this computer i have now sucks
21:11 <Lord_of_nothing_> sound good
21:19 <Nothing\> there's no opportunity for upgrade
21:23 <Lord_of_nothing_> suck on your...?
21:28 <Nothing\> the cpu is soldered directly into the socket
21:43 <Nothing\> it's basically a laptop crammed into an ATX case
21:44 <Ampera> The phone I got I swear has similar performance numbers for the power to Ryzen
21:52 <Ampera> Zen 2 at that
22:02 <Ampera> It's insane what they can do with phone CPUs now
22:15 <Lord_of_nothing_> well the pi v.4 with 8gb of ram who is new sound very intererresting
22:47 <Nothing\> it's got a GTX730 in it, but it bottlenecks cuz the cpu is only an AMD A10-8700
23:03 <Nothing\> it runs at 1.8ghz with 3.6ghz when the cores are really taxed
23:09 <Lord_of_nothing_> i dont know how a comand line only pi image need of ram but have 7gb of a very very io friendly storage sound a good think to play arround
23:18 <Nothing\> and only has 8gb on i think 800mhz ddr3
23:44 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing_, the point of the extra RAM is for desktop usage
24:05 <Nothing\> i've managed to save up $1200 and in 10 days i'll be up to $1400 so i should really get a new computer
24:24 <Lord_of_nothing_> sure but i would say its possible to use them for io intensive thinks
24:29 <Lord_of_nothing_> maybe run a db just in ram
24:37 <Lord_of_nothing_> or do face recognition
24:49 <Lord_of_nothing_> or read data in and process them in ram only
24:49 <Nothing\> the guy who sold me this computer didn't know shit though
25:00 <Nothing\> he tried to tell me the GTX730 was worth $300
25:18 <Nothing\> and when i got it, the SATA cable for the optical drive wasn't even connected
25:42 <Nothing\> took me forever to troubleshoot cuz i assumed he'd be competant enough to connect the cables properly
25:58 <steve30> Grandma phoned to say she is ill. I wonder what expired food she managed to eat this time :/
26:07 <Ampera> that sucks
26:09 <Nothing\> aww poor granny
26:16 <Nothing\> i hope she gets better soon
26:17 <Ampera> is she the sort to keep stuff around even if it's past good?
26:29 <Nothing\> i have a bad habit of doing that
26:36 <steve30> Yes, she has dementia so doesn't really understand date/time any more
26:42 <Nothing\> aww
26:46 <Nothing\> nobody to care for her?
26:49 <Ampera> Oh. My great grandmother had dementia
26:52 <coppice> steve30: expired food is best. you don't want to eat it while its still alive
27:05 <steve30> We have to regularly inspect the fridge to make sure that there's nothing mouldy in it
27:06 <Nothing\> yeah, my grandfather had dementia, it got real bad in the last few weeks of his life
27:13 <Ampera> coppice, don't they eat live octopus in Korea?
27:18 <Nothing\> but he ultimately died of pneumonia from aspirating food
27:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, they do. there are videos on youtube even
27:44 <Ampera> If only we ate people while they were still live
27:46 <Nothing\> some people die doing it cuz the animal lodges itself in their throat
27:47 <Ampera> *alive
27:53 <coppice> Ampera: they eat oysters live in Europe.
27:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, some of us do
27:59 <Nothing\> ie luca magnotta
28:10 <Ampera> coppice, Europe? I've never heard of it.
28:19 <Ampera> must be some far off land full of mysterious peoples
28:30 <Nothing\> europe to bat
28:49 <coppice> Ampera: In Asia they eat a lot of prawns still alive, but they get them drunk first so they don't feel it so much
28:59 <Ampera> coppice, the people or the prawns?
29:02 <Nothing\> that's gross
29:08 <Nothing\> i won't even eat the legs on shrimp
29:09 <Nothing\> or shell
29:23 <Ampera> I'll eat anything that is or used to be alive that isn't a plant
29:27 <Nothing\> i loooove seafood though
29:35 <Nothing\> it's by far my favourite type of food
29:51 * Ampera throws a trout at Nothing\ for the halibut
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30:00 <Nothing\> especially crab or lobster. dunk it in some garlic butter
30:12 <Nothing\> Ampera, more shellfish than unshellfish
30:16 <coppice> Ampera: look up "drunken prawns". Its a classic Chinese dish
30:31 <Nothing\> wait, they get the prowns drunk?
30:33 <Nothing\> lol
30:46 <Ampera> they should just eat them live normally so they feel all of it
30:56 <Ampera> so they know the pain of their slow, agonizing death
31:00 <Ampera> and can only lay there accepting it
31:01 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
31:07 <Nothing\> there's a drink where they take a salamander and torture it to get it to secrete its venom (or poison?) and they made a drink out of the poison
31:08 Nick: Ys_got_dc is now known as Ysjoelfir
31:18 <coppice> Nothing\: garlic butter is good with a mediocre lobster, but its a sin to do anything more than steam a really good one
31:35 <Nothing\> i'm i dunno
31:51 <Nothing\> then again, last time i had red lobster i didn't really like it cuz it was way too buttery
32:03 <Nothing\> also heya Ysjoelfir
32:06 <Nothing\> how goes it?
32:10 * Nothing\ hugs Ysjoelfir <3
32:16 <Ysjoelfir> hi Nothing\ :) I'm fine, thanks
32:23 <Ysjoelfir> how about u?
32:29 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, i still tihnk of the ygdrasil when i see your name
32:32 <Nothing\> i'm doing well
32:33 <coppice> cheese lobster is good
32:39 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :)
32:57 <Nothing\> got another kitty so i've been kinda stressed trying to manage both of them. especially training the new kitten
33:21 <Nothing\> and now were thinking of getting a 3rd cat
33:33 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D Kittyception!
33:43 <Ampera> Nothing\, oh let me show you some pictures from my new camera
33:55 <Nothing\> cuz wihle i was there to pick up my second cat from my cousin's wife. she fosters rescue cats. she brought out a 3 week old kitten she just get in
34:02 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784913467899945/722886595933634580/IMG_20200617_144759.jpg
34:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah dude, let's see
34:10 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784913467899945/722886596738810057/IMG_20200617_144825.jpg
34:19 <Nothing\> aww
34:28 <Nothing\> you know, the one no the left looks just like my new kitten
34:37 <Nothing\> i named her luci cuz she looks like luci on disenchantment
34:42 <Ampera> That's Fermi
34:45 <Nothing\> is that fermi
34:48 <Nothing\> ah right on
34:52 <Ampera> The one on the right is Kitty
34:57 <Ampera> and the one in the other picture is Mittens
35:02 <Nothing\> heh i had a cat named kitty
35:15 <Nothing\> or i lived with one named kitty anyways
35:27 <Nothing\> i was renting a room in a house and he sa sort of the communal house cat
36:22 <Nothing\> i still need to get a good pic of luci
36:41 <Ampera> My new fridge is coming in today
36:51 <coppice> cool
37:04 <Ampera> coppice, that'd be quite weird, it's summer out
37:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, full size, or bar fridge?
38:26 <Nothing\> lol i was showing smokey some cyriak videos the other day
38:31 <Nothing\> he absolutely loved them
38:37 <Nothing\> he couldn't take his eyes off the screen
38:41 <Ampera> Nothing\, mini fridge/freezer
38:52 <Nothing\> i showed him kitty city, meow mix and cycles
39:06 <Nothing\> lol he loves wathing tv
39:16 <Nothing\> especially when i play super mario odyssey
39:24 <Nothing\> he loves watching mario run and jupm around
39:24 <Ampera> Here's a picture of my new phone to the right of my old one: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784913467899945/722881171393871872/MicrosoftTeams-image_6.png
39:58 <Nothing\> nice
40:03 <Nothing\> big improvement on screen size
40:20 <Ampera> They're the same brand, but the left is a oneplus one, and the right is a oneplus 8 pro
40:33 <Nothing\> i just don't like tho ones where the screen oes rightto they edge like that. i always accidentally hit buttons
40:43 <Nothing\> i use an LG G6
40:53 <Ampera> I actually have a bumper case on it now, not pictured in there, so that eliminates that problem
41:17 <Nothing\> ah right on
41:23 <Nothing\> yeah this one's got one of those too
41:55 <Ampera> The screen is beautiful though, 120hz OLED
42:33 <coppice> Ampera: So, you took the oppo-tunity to get a new phone
43:10 <Ampera> coppice, I was actually tempted to buy the Oppo Find X2 Pro, because it has some things I like about it like nicer cameras (on paper) and a neat vegan leather back
43:32 <Ampera> but it's lacking wireless charging, is 300 dollars more than the Oneplus 8 Pro, and they don't have a US version so the 5G doesn't work here
44:42 <Nothing\> one neat thing this phone/tv can do is i can show what's on my phone on the tv so i can use my phone through the TV with a mouse
44:54 <Nothing\> it's pretty awesome being ableto te use my phone on a 55in tv
45:06 <Ampera> I can hook my phone directly into a monitor/TV using a cable
45:08 <Ampera> or chromecast
45:10 <coppice> Ampera: BBK try to get crazy prices for some of the Oppo branded stuff
45:19 <Nothing\> my just uses bluetooth
45:29 <Ampera> you can send display links over bluetooth now?
45:32 <Ampera> wtf
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45:39 <Ampera> nah that doesn't sound right
45:48 <Ampera> I can't have a pissing lossless audio codec but you can send video?
45:53 <Ampera> it must be over 802.11
45:58 <Nothing\> links?
46:09 <Nothing\> nah it just shows whatever's on my phone on the tv
46:19 <Ampera> yeah it doesn't do that over bluetooth I can bet you
46:21 <Ampera> it does it over wlan
46:26 <Nothing\> yeha it does
46:33 <Nothing\> im' 90% certain
46:35 <Ampera> well I can do the same thing on mine
46:38 <Nothing\> lemme double check for you
46:40 <Ampera> that's just a chromecast
46:44 <Nothing\> so so
46:45 <Nothing\> no no
46:47 <Nothing\> it's clalled...
46:53 <Nothing\> screen share
47:39 <Nothing\> it's screen mirroring
48:10 <Ampera> it's chromecast tech and protocols
48:13 <Ampera> I'd put money on it
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48:28 Nick: Lemon_ is now known as Lemon
48:32 <Nothing\> well let's try disabling bluetooth and see if it still works
49:43 <Nothing\> okay i stand corrected
49:51 <Nothing\> it still works with bluetooth disabled on the phone
50:07 <MrMobodies> Hello
50:11 <Ampera> hi MrMobodies how are you
50:20 <MrMobodies> very pleased.
50:22 <Nothing\> hello MrMobodies
50:22 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Nothing\!
50:31 <Nothing\> hello robut
50:34 <MrMobodies> Found a cheap ups for £50 with a battery in good condition
50:55 <MrMobodies> it turned up today and worked straight out fo the box
51:18 <Nothing\> nice
51:19 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APC-Smart-UPS-620-VA-Line-interactive-Tower-SC620I-UPS/133417605828
51:29 <Nothing\> i should really get a benchtop power supply
51:32 <Ampera> The most infuriating thing about Android, though, is none of the SFTP clients support ed25519 keys
51:33 <MrMobodies> 12v 12a Yuasa battery, no bulging at all only 2 years old
51:41 <Nothing\> but i don't do much with electronics these days
51:49 <Ampera> I just want an sshfs wrapper and shit has to be made so hard for me
51:58 <MrMobodies> well I am going to use it to power up the modems and lights in the cupboard and datalogger
52:09 <Nothing\> i was playing around with windows 10's command line yesterday
52:17 <Nothing\> it doesn't even have an SSH client
52:19 <Nothing\> just telnet
52:24 <MrMobodies> talking of windows 10
52:27 <coppice> MrMobodies: the battery will outlast the rest of the unit with those APC Smart UPSes.
52:29 <Ampera> Nothing\, of course it does
52:38 <MrMobodies> what do know about a process called "DaShost"
52:38 <Ampera> you must just have an old version
52:39 <Nothing\> i'd really like to learn powershell though
52:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, nope, newest version
52:50 <Nothing\> lemme seee
52:54 <Ampera> all current versions of Windows 10 have had OpenSSH built in
53:01 <Ampera> for a while now too
53:15 <MrMobodies> that's nice then I won't need a client.
53:48 <Nothing\> Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18363.836]
54:14 <Nothing\> i forget how to copy the output of a command line command to the clipboard
54:26 <Nothing\> i thought it was <cmd> > clipboard but apparently not
54:37 <Ampera> I'm on 19041.329
55:12 <Nothing\> C:\Users\user>openssh
55:12 <Nothing\> 'openssh' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
55:12 <Nothing\> operable program or batch file.
55:41 <Nothing\> you sure you're not thinking of openssl?
55:49 <Ampera> ssh
55:52 <Ampera> you moron
55:53 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/t2whv1
55:53 <Nothing\> hrm
56:33 <Nothing\> oh okay yeah
56:36 <Nothing\> ssh works
56:44 <Nothing\> not taht i have any shells to use
56:47 <Ampera> OpenSSH is the software suite
56:52 <Ampera> not the command
56:53 <Nothing\> gotcha
56:55 <Ampera> you also have the sftp command
56:58 <Ampera> and ssh-keygen
57:15 <Ampera> exact same software used on Linux and Unix
58:16 <Ampera> anyways gonna go back to working, if you want to tell me something ping pls
00:14 <MrMobodies> Coppice: I know they have a fault with them. I only discovered it. I see videos on youtube of them soldering some joints
00:48 <MrMobodies> when it is turned off it won't turn on until power is applied
01:43 <MrMobodies> I guess they have some other failure I don't yet know about.
01:52 <coppice> MrMobodies: there were recalls on a lot of them, because of some fire hazard. They have a nasty habit of just dying, though
02:19 <MrMobodies> right on the vent, there are some cables push up against it the hole
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02:26 <MrMobodies> where the transformer is
05:43 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/lbN1JHH
06:18 <MrMobodies> it looks crushed against the vent
06:28 <MrMobodies> I wonder if that is a fire hazard and I better open it and move it out of the way
07:09 <MrMobodies> Thanks for letting me, obviously I didn't research well enough and the last thing i want is a fire.
09:43 <coppice> I don't know if they are marked after a recall, to indicate if they've had the relevant mods performed
15:51 <MrMobodies> I can't find any information apart from good reviews. Maybe it has been forgotten long ago.
16:10 <MrMobodies> But I do see a fire hazard with the cables pinched up against that vent
16:34 <MrMobodies> Oh when I inspected the batteries, the terminals fell off
16:39 <MrMobodies> they were loose
17:09 <MrMobodies> I tightened them up tight and good I checked, I noitced a burn mark on the negative connector
19:42 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/hVY8kwG.jpg
20:03 <MrMobodies> no easy to see but I think was because it worked its way loose
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23:40 <MrMobodies> I found this
23:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2003/cpsc-american-power-conversion-corp-announce-recall-of-back-up-power-supply-systems
23:54 <MrMobodies> I was in a warehouse and they had lots of those types
24:08 <MrMobodies> there was an older one that was metal but this one was one they had and it was plastic
24:15 <MrMobodies> many of them had batteries that didn't work
24:34 <MrMobodies> but I tested them on a working battery and they were all fine
24:47 <MrMobodies> the one i brought has a metal casing
26:18 <MrMobodies> https://www.se.com/uk/en/faqs/FA158846/
26:53 <MrMobodies> Next time i look for an UPS, I'll make sure there are not recalls due to fire. I don't see any on this one but thanks for mentioning it.
28:01 <Watcher> hase the youtuber 8-bit guy not a video about modding the plastic version of this upc
28:06 <Watcher> i will search it up
29:04 <Watcher> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ur-D37-juo
29:17 <Watcher> it is also a apc one
36:57 <MrMobodies> that's handy for a 12v output
37:41 <MrMobodies> I suppose they're okay when they are in front, but when it is going in a cupboard with the gas meter and electric fusebox. In fact I am not going to put it there now.
38:10 <MrMobodies> I like the volt meter lcd he put in there
39:30 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, heh that was one of the first circuits i remember making
39:49 <Nothing\> a bar graph LED driver to measure voltage
40:15 <Nothing\> sort of like a rudimentary 3914
40:16 <Watcher> ye, it are cool mods. and i will all so not trust a device that got a recall for fire by my gasmeter
41:21 <Nothing\> the 3914L
41:23 <Nothing\> ?
43:10 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LM3914
43:22 <MrMobodies> I came across last year a Apricote computer
43:32 <MrMobodies> with one of those Hybrid AT power supplies in there
43:41 <MrMobodies> with power management and a soft off switch
43:52 <MrMobodies> in the bios there was an option with the system fan
44:19 <MrMobodies> I think it mentioned full on or controlled by LM39XX
44:52 <MrMobodies> but that one is for driving displays
45:26 <Nothing\> i don't see anything about fires in there or overheating
45:56 <Nothing\> unless i'm just too tired to notice
46:42 <Nothing\> one thing that gets me about seeing people on youtube videos making circuits is when they drive LEDs from outputs with a max output of maybe a couple of mA
47:31 <MrMobodies> a small amount of current
48:13 <Nothing\> yea, they should really be using mosfet buffers or something
48:41 <Nothing\> it's because of stuff like that that it took me forever to figure out i needed to use transistor buffers on some circuits
49:19 <Watcher> and that are good tech youtubers like dave jones and greatscoott?
49:41 <Nothing\> i'd try driving a logic gate from an output connected to an LED, but the LED would drop the voltage of the output to ~3v or whatever the forward voltage was and i couldn't figure out why my second logic gate wouldn't trigger properly
49:50 <MrMobodies> I see, they skip out on the regulation of their led driver
50:29 <MrMobodies> Dave Jones did videos on poor quality led drivers, I can't remember which one but he said in one of them it was a pick and mix for his stuio lights
50:33 <Nothing\> yeah so i had to use mosfet buffers to keep the output voltage at 5v or whatever logic level i uesd
52:12 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_amplifier
52:27 <MrMobodies> thanks to you I learn't something useful today
53:13 <MrMobodies> is that similar to trying to isolate inbetween circuits
57:07 <Nothing\> really you just need a mosfet
57:23 <Nothing\> but a buffer would work as well, so long as the output current is sufficient to drive the LEDs
57:33 <Nothing\> here, i'll make a diagram of what i'm talking about
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01:12 <MrMobodies> thanks
06:09 <Nothing\> hrm well i can't get the insufficient voltage thing to work now, but i'll show you how to put a buffer on an IC that isn't rate with a high enough output current to drive an LED
07:11 <Nothing\> i think i was just making a newb mistake an connecting the gate before the LED instead of after it. Where before the LED you'd just get the LED drop and after you'd get the full 5v or whatever voltage you're putt into that part of the circuit
09:39 <Nothing\> mind you it's been months since i've done this, so i'm a bit rusty
12:33 <MrMobodies> well everytime I am here I learn something new
12:38 <MrMobodies> from people like you
14:04 <MrMobodies> I now know how a little how there can be interference from other circuits and what can used to control it
17:25 <Nothing\> stillworking on it, hold on
17:41 <Nothing\> i think i managed to reproduce the voltage problem after all
18:11 <Nothing\> well i'm glad i could help. i have to admit though i am newbish to this stuff
18:34 <Nothing\> i've only been at it for 3 years or so
24:09 <MrMobodies> I just noticed when I went to check on a thread yesterday, about some military aircraft that Boris Johnson was going to paint got taken down. No message. I wonder what happened.
24:48 <MrMobodies> I am starting to realize it was political, unrelated to electrics and I shouldn't have posted it. Sorry about that.
25:14 <MrMobodies> even thought being military I assumed it was going to have high tech stuff in there
31:18 <MrMobodies> Going out for a walk
33:30 <Nothing\> almost done
33:41 <Nothing\> sorry it's taking so long, i keep nodding off
34:04 <Nothing\> boris johnson always looks like he just woke up
46:05 <Nothing\> okay i'm done MrMobodies
46:08 <Nothing\> http://tinyurl.com/ya94zqxt
46:14 <Nothing\> you can check it out whenever you get back
46:19 <Nothing\> hope i got everything right
46:35 <Nothing\> btw, it's interactive. so you can play with it as you please
48:55 <Nothing\> actually, there was a small error i made. i forgot to put a pull resistor on the mosfet buffer on the lower circuit, so i just corrected that
48:57 <Nothing\> http://tinyurl.com/ycv4xk8l
49:31 <Nothing\> it doesn't matter in the simulation, but in real life it would drastically affect the reliability of your circuit
50:06 <Nothing\> mosfets are pretty unpredictable if you leave them floating
51:51 <Nothing\> but yeah, this is actually a really neat little app for simulating circuits. it's not the most accurate thing. but it's great for being able to visualize what's going on in a circuit and for experimenting with circuits.
53:43 <Nothing\> it has some really neat example circuits under the "circuits" menu at the top too so that can help you to visually understand common circuits like PLLs, various OP AMP circuits, various amplifiers, logic families, and so on and so forth
31:03 <Ampera> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
42:54 <MrMobodies> I just looked and I see. That one is based on Falsted so it is quite nice
43:55 <MrMobodies> I see the issues and learned something.
38:56 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, i'm glad i could help shed some light on this for you. Nothing makes me happier than passing my knowledge along to somebody else. So long as it's correct knowledge.
40:44 <Nothing\> and i'm super glad you know about circuitmod on Paul Falstad's site. It's been one of the greatest teaching tools for me in electronics.
42:54 <Nothing\> the biggest hurdle i had when it came to taking up electronics was simply knowing which parts I needed and the value of my passives like my resistors. I watched lots of Big Clive and EEVBlog and some other channels that gave me a good idea. But it wasn't until I played with this circuit simulator that I was able to finally make the jump from merely simulating circuits to buying parts and actually building physical circu
43:04 <Ampera> Nothing\, my fridge came in
43:28 <Nothing\> i still remember the exact moment where I was like "oh man why am I simulating these when I could buy tha parts to build the real thing"
43:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, awesome. what are your plans for it?
43:45 <Ampera> gonna keep things cold in it
43:55 <Nothing\> sounds reasonable
44:43 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i should order some of those peltier devices
45:18 <Nothing\> where you make one side hot and the other side cold and it generates voltage. Or you run a voltage through it and it makes one side hot and one side cool
45:31 <Nothing\> i dunno what for, but it seems like something neat to have around to play with
47:07 <Nothing\> not bad, they're only like $2 each
07:45 <MrMobodies> Some years ago I use to copy circuits from diagrams on there for fun which took me hours but I see the more things I add on the slower it became. When I saved and opened it starts quicker like a javascript issue
07:52 <MrMobodies> I mean the Falstad simulator
08:22 <MrMobodies> but I like to see the simulation of the electrons? moving abour in the circuit.
10:04 <MrMobodies> I have just had a Chinese across the road, went for my cycle and when I got back I felt very sick
10:44 <MrMobodies> I fell asleep in my chair for about an hour and I feel alright.
11:38 <MrMobodies> I think I overeaten which is something I am trying no to do.
31:07 <Nothing\> ihate it when that happens. especially when you get so full thta you can feel your stomach crushing your lungs
31:14 <Nothing\> especially when you lie down
43:20 <Ampera> I have taken a bath
45:31 <Nothing\> i'm looking at bench power supplies, should i go with linear or switching?
45:42 <Nothing\> i think i remember somebody say switching was better
46:51 <Ampera> speaking of power supplies, my phone does wireless charging
46:53 <Ampera> it's so cool
53:54 <Nothing\> nice, that'd be a good feature to have
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14:53 <Lord_of_nothing_> @Ampera sound good you like to take a bath?
15:06 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing_, yes it's slightly better than reeking
07:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chloe Cresswell: Hey @fatedfox, I think this one: https://t.co/63dvQQtnJN Is probably one for @eevblog? ;)
11:09 <rust_collector> IS WEEKEND!!!
11:16 * Ampera smacks rust_collector with love
11:20 <rust_collector> so... pizza, or lasagna?
11:23 <rust_collector> YES!
11:29 <Ampera> I'm having pizza tomorrow
11:45 <rust_collector> I am probably too, because tomorrow is pizza day
12:08 <Ampera> I see you're a man of culture
12:10 <Ampera> and we all know
12:13 <Ampera> you can't spell culture without cult
12:19 <rust_collector> mmhmm
12:53 <rust_collector> being a grand wizard... I have noticed that a few times
13:24 <Ampera> rust_collector, a grand wizard? That's pretty cheap, I'd have expected at least a 10 grand wizard from you
13:30 * rust_collector throws a bucket of liquid love on Ampera 
13:41 <rust_collector> I am all the grand wizards
13:48 * Ampera intentionally spontaneously combusts
14:17 <rust_collector> oops. well, and I was trying to be social and stuff... oh well...
14:41 <Ampera> speaking of socialization failures, I'm going to go to bed
14:45 <Ampera> have a very good night
14:52 <rust_collector> you too.
14:53 <Ampera> or don't, I can only tell you what to do
15:38 <rust_collector> like I would listen to anyone telling me what to do...
16:00 <rust_collector> Ok, I will go make lasagna and pizza. have a whatever you enjoy night
16:49 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, why are you not logged off? did you fall asleep again?
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23:45 <Halcyon> Morning all
23:55 <rust_collector> mornings
24:05 <Halcyon> How's it going?
24:24 <rust_collector> awesome, I am eating pizza, and making lasagna
24:30 <Halcyon> Yum
24:43 <Ysjoelfir> no rusty, I'm playing games. but I'll be off to bed soon.
24:46 <Ysjoelfir> and hu Halcyon :)
24:55 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
24:57 <rust_collector> playing games, eh?
25:47 <Ysjoelfir> yep
26:36 <rust_collector> as I know you are german, you make that sound like something extremely kinky
27:54 <Ysjoelfir> XD
28:07 <Ysjoelfir> if Civilisation IV is kinky for you... :P
28:32 <rust_collector> well, I do not know what you call it... butt...
32:48 <rust_collector> ok, that was pizza. lasagna is still not done
34:18 <rust_collector> oh, Ysjoelfir the damn audi is gone
34:58 <rust_collector> so... it was either bad enough, that he did not want me to touch it any more, or it was good enough, so he thought it was done
37:21 <Ysjoelfir> xD nice :) I'm sure it will come back one day
37:41 <rust_collector> yep, me too. I am just not sure if that is a good thing or not
38:29 <rust_collector> so, I am getting a new audi tomorrow. It makes me feel dirty
40:38 <Ysjoelfir> if you enjoyed the work its good, otherwise... not so good.
40:51 <Ysjoelfir> anyways, I*'m off to bed. cu tomorrow everyone
40:58 <rust_collector> enjoy.. well... good night
41:03 <Halcyon> Night Ysjoelfir
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41:27 <rust_collector> PAAAARTYYYYY!!!!!
43:03 <Halcyon> Heh
43:04 <rust_collector> so, is anything fun happening down there?
43:19 <Halcyon> Just woke up, about to have coffee?
43:24 <rust_collector> YAAY!!
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49:15 <Nothing\> welp, i finally bought a bench top power supply
49:27 <rust_collector> YAAY!
49:31 <rust_collector> what was it?
49:39 <rust_collector> is
49:46 <rust_collector> what could it have been?
49:49 <Nothing\> and a few elegoo brand breadboards while i was at it, cuz most of the power rails on the ones i have are looser than a thai hooker
50:00 <rust_collector> nice
50:16 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07GCGFDYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
50:19 <Nothing\> was that one
50:42 <Nothing\> was the only fairly cheap one with overall good reviews by more than just 2 people
50:51 <rust_collector> uuh....uuh... oh that one
51:09 <Nothing\> what's wrong with that one?
51:23 <rust_collector> 110 canadian, that is like... 80 us?
51:40 <Nothing\> uh lemme see
52:26 <Nothing\> yeat, $81
52:31 <rust_collector> I am sure it will do ok, for most things, especially big chunky things
52:36 <Nothing\> i paid a bit extra for a 4 digit display
52:45 <rust_collector> butt
52:53 <rust_collector> what version? 10A?
53:03 <Nothing\> well relaly everything i use doesn't use much more than 5v and never more than 1 amp so it should be more than sufficient
53:07 <Nothing\> yeah, 10A
53:13 <Nothing\> and 30v
53:47 <Nothing\> now i've just gotta pick out a function generator, but so far i haven't found any that are both cheap and have good reviews from more than 2 people
54:14 <rust_collector> they are all crap. just get one
54:16 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to Costo to get ribs. Laters
54:22 <rust_collector> have fun
54:26 <Nothing\> i'd rather not pay more than $100-$150, but i don't need something with more than like 1-10mhz
54:43 <Nothing\> Halcyon, i just had ribs yesterday. they were taaasty
54:44 <rust_collector> oh, so you are going to get a real one... ok
54:57 <Nothing\> yeah, not one of those $10 kits
55:08 <Halcyon> Ww are going to smoke them
55:14 <Halcyon> Should be good
55:22 <rust_collector> yes, they should
55:24 <Nothing\> i'm trhough buying kits after that fucking $20 JYETech oscilloscope i bought
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55:51 <Nothing\> that thing wasn't good for anything more than maybe geetting a rough idea of the waveform and maybe measuring duty cycle
56:13 <Nothing\> and even then, it couldn't measure anything faster than 100us
56:26 <Nothing\> it had a 10us trigger on it, but it was absolutely useless
58:33 <Nothing\> i tried making an eeprom writer circuit that needed to make a pulse shorter than 1us so naturally i tried testing the circuit before i actually tried initiating a write cycle, using the jyetech scope
59:01 <Nothing\> and no matter what i did, it just wouldn't show anything was happening, so being a newb i thought it was something i was doing
59:50 <Nothing\> i mean, i cut it back to 10us with an extra resistor to lower the time constant to compensate for the scope's slowness, but i still couldn't get anything
00:11 <Nothing\> so i spent almost a week troubleshooting it before i realized it just wouldn't trigger on anything shorer than 100us
00:27 <Nothing\> and by that time i was sick of messing around with it and just give up
00:30 <rust_collector> you should send that scope to me. I really did like mine
00:53 <Nothing\> i'm holding onto it for the screeen
02:39 <Nothing\> i wanna get a soldering station too
02:47 <Nothing\> cuz breadboards just aren't reliable enough for me anymore
03:12 <rust_collector> well, they are for differnt things.
03:14 <Nothing\> like i said, the rails on mine are so loose, you just look at the wires wrong and you get intermittent power issues
03:25 <rust_collector> yes, breadboard
03:38 <Nothing\> which again i thought was my fault at first till i realized how loose m connects were
04:09 <Nothing\> they're just so old, some of them i've been using for 3 years now
04:16 <rust_collector> I should probably get one of those dso-shell things
04:27 <Nothing\> and most are just cheap $1-$2 chinesium boards
04:36 <Nothing\> dso-shell?
05:14 <rust_collector> the jyetech scope, with an encoder button, and a box, not the 4 switches and buttons
05:29 <Nothing\> big clive has a guide on soldering stations, i'd like to at least go through that before committing
05:45 <rust_collector> uhm
05:47 <Nothing\> oh one of those
06:03 <rust_collector> guide on soldering stations...
06:12 <Nothing\> but i found a fairly cheap hakko that seems like it might be good
06:19 <Nothing\> can't go wrong with hakko
06:24 <rust_collector> how many decades do you want support from the factory?
06:41 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/Hakko-FX888D-Digital-Soldering-Station/dp/B00ANZRT4M/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=soldering+station+hakko&qid=1592608811&s=industrial&sr=1-5
07:24 <rust_collector> yeah, the 888 used to be super-awesome hobbyist youtube mega special
07:42 <rust_collector> if you get it cheap-ish, it is a good iron
08:15 <Nothing\> but it's fucking $85 shipping
08:49 <rust_collector> I have one of those ebay special yihua 936 clone things. it has been fine for a couple years now. it cost... almost nothing
09:14 <rust_collector> keep a big gun or iron around, for big stuff
09:52 <Nothing\> hrm
10:00 <Nothing\> i've heard good things about yihua too
10:20 <Nothing\> i need to learn more about caring for soldering irons too
10:37 <rust_collector> well, don't listen to people who say yihua is good.
10:43 <Nothing\> my one frined told me to use a damp spnoge, which i was reluctant to do cuz i figured it would just melt
10:51 <rust_collector> it is just a little bit less crap than it could be
10:53 <Nothing\> but eventually i gave in and sure enough, it melted
11:28 <rust_collector> uhm, damp sponge does not melt, unless you use it to hold the iron
12:03 <Nothing\> well i got actual soldering iron sponges but they're only like 1 square inch
12:18 <Nothing\> and maybe 1/16in thick
12:38 <rust_collector> get one of those curly brass wool cleaning things. they are nice
14:00 <Nothing\> yeah i'd like to get one of those
14:06 <Nothing\> the hakko station comes with one
14:59 <Nothing\> lol one guide on soldering iron maintenance i came across on one of those wikihow type sites told me to use a rough grit sand paper to rub all of the the oxidized metal off of the top
15:13 <rust_collector> right.
15:23 <rust_collector> sounds great
15:34 <rust_collector> maybe use a rock, if you have one
16:09 <Nothing\> lol i have one of those pink (or was it blue?) stones for a dremel to file sharp metal edges down
17:02 <Nothing\> i used it to smooth the edges of my spudger cuz they were razor sharp for some reason
17:09 <Nothing\> cheap chinesium spudgers
17:47 <Nothing\> i dunno why but i just felt like i'm in a video a game and i killed you by saying that
18:03 <Nothing\> which reminds me, i should install this game i got last night
18:08 <rust_collector> NOOOO!!!!!
18:24 <Nothing\> the outer worlds
18:39 <rust_collector> this lasagna was not bad
18:47 <Nothing\> i came across it on the switch estore but iddn't feel like paying $50
18:54 <Nothing\> nice
19:00 <Nothing\> i had some tiger tail ice cream
19:10 <rust_collector> sounds asian
19:18 <Nothing\> made some post-ice cream chow mein but suddenlylostmy apetite
20:03 <Nothing\> nah, it's orange ice cream with stripes of black licorice flavoring
20:14 <rust_collector> This is my post-pizza lasagna. I am awake, no one else is. good times
20:56 <Nothing\> i'm tired and dopey from my meds, but i have coffee if it gets too strong
21:16 <rust_collector> it is 3.21 in the morning here
21:24 <Nothing\> it's 9:20pm here
21:51 <rust_collector> why do you get up at 9 in the evening?
21:51 <Nothing\> but i've been up since 10am, which to me is like the normal person equivalent of 3am
22:28 <rust_collector> hmm. I got up around 9. I dunno. it is weekend, and time does not work any more
23:07 <Nothing\> indeed
24:07 <rust_collector> hmm, I wonder if I can... mmmhffffppppk
24:15 <rust_collector> I need to try to grill a pizza
25:00 <rust_collector> should work, if I have something chunky and hot in there, I guess
27:25 <Nothing\> grilled pizza would be interesting
28:04 <rust_collector> if you have a thick metal plate, or maybe some kind of stone, I guess it would work ok
28:19 <Nothing\> i think my cat's broken
28:29 <rust_collector> that makes sense
28:30 <Nothing\> every time i give him water, he tries to dig into it
28:39 <Nothing\> like it's sand or something
28:49 <rust_collector> maybe he is a winter cat
28:53 <Nothing\> makes a hell of a mess, especially once he inevitably spills the bowl
29:09 <Nothing\> i think mine coons are awful wintery
29:19 <Nothing\> *maine
29:29 <rust_collector> I am looking forward to winter, and your stories about mr cat being dropped in snow
29:42 <Nothing\> haha that sholud be interesting
29:51 <Nothing\> we might be getting a 3rd cat
30:08 <rust_collector> heh. ok.
30:10 <Nothing\> we got a second one on monday, which happened to be the same day smokey got castrated
30:29 <rust_collector> as long as it is not here, have all the cats you can get
30:48 <Nothing\> there's a limit of 3 in this city
30:55 <rust_collector> wth?
31:10 <rust_collector> no crazy cat ladies living there?
31:12 <Nothing\> in fact i just had to call bylaw enforcement on my neighbours cuz they have 4 dogs who are noisy and aggressive as fuck
31:17 <Nothing\> noisy 24/7
31:29 <Nothing\> at least 4, maybe 5
31:52 <Nothing\> wondering if i should call the property management company, too
32:28 <Nothing\> well there are sill crazy cat ladies, they just fly under the radar
32:34 <rust_collector> hmm, wait until it is weekend, and just kill them. I mean, officially, you are in jail
32:34 <Nothing\> best as one can
33:05 <Nothing\> it's not just one that's the problem. it's ally them
33:20 <rust_collector> that is why I said them, not it
33:51 <rust_collector> or the owner, then the dogs will probably get moved.
37:22 <Nothing\> yeah, hopefully
38:05 <Nothing\> i'm sick of being dog-screamed at every time i open my patio door
38:22 <rust_collector> the risk with that, is that the relatives might turn the house into a home for noisy dogs
39:33 <rust_collector> but yes, I think "I was in jail at that time" is an ok alibi
45:40 <Nothing\> Alight, i've got some dollar store chow mein that needs to be devoured
45:43 <Nothing\> i'll bbiab
46:22 <rust_collector> ok, I will probably go to bed. I have clients to shout to tomorrow
47:18 <rust_collector> good night, and enjoy your asian cat soup, or whatever it is
51:23 <Nothing\> have a good one, man
51:28 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Once I knew this kid who needed a blood transfusion, but he didn't like blood so they gave him apple juice and in the fall he changed colors and fell out of a tree and died
23:00 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: They need to re-release #Ghostbusters with the nerve gas joke. https://t.co/4i9MwdW2bo
28:02 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: NASA's Launch Services Program: Spacecraft. Stacked. Continuing on its path to preparation for next month’s launch, the @NASAPersevere rover spacecraft is, well, put together. Liftoff is targeted for July 20 on board a @ulalaunch Atlas V rocket at 9:15 a.m. ET. Learn more: https://t.co/gK9KXfaQ5B https://t.co/4enaUMumGL
33:04 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For those interested in the editing side, you can see all the subtle cuts required for an interview. Need to block various channel audio and blend the odd camera angle etc. https://t.co/N9f4smYRvi
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12:56 <hsn> t3sl4: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBT24z0F3Yz/?igshid=1wbooxgxw8vfl
13:32 <T3sl4> smack that bitch up
20:55 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: #1 Dad: Here's a PCB hairbrush: https://t.co/S3I68M24bb
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36:05 <Ysjoelfir> morning all
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24:52 <Ysjoelfir> Omg its him!
25:04 <Ysjoelfir> I still have a complaint about my GeorgeForeman contact grill!
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29:19 <GeorgeForeman> Healthier meals in minutes.
29:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but it burnt my house down!
29:45 <Ysjoelfir> including himself
29:52 <Ysjoelfir> I want to make use of my warranty
30:11 <GeorgeForeman> Lean, mean, fat-reducing machine.
30:53 <Ysjoelfir> but I'm still overweight, only that my belly now has brown, tasty smelling burn marks
32:28 <GeorgeForeman> The world's favourite.
32:36 <Ysjoelfir> no its not.
32:45 <Ysjoelfir> the one from lidl is way better
32:45 <GeorgeForeman> Ready when you are.
32:53 <Ysjoelfir> ok, get undressed!
34:48 <GeorgeForeman> When you're finished, just wipe it down and you are done.
35:47 <Ysjoelfir> isn't that what all couples do afterwards?
37:53 <GeorgeForeman> Don't turn it on, tear it apart.
38:18 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely! let the juices flow!
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20:35 <hsn> hello
20:35 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
21:32 <hsn> Hello there, EEVBlog!
24:50 <hsn> T3sl4 how do u do ur quotes ? https://www.quotationtemplates.net/ < looks good ?
26:13 <T3sl4> hey hsn
26:24 <hsn> hey :)
28:07 <hsn> i get small automation data extraction job from my cousin i can just whatsapp him price but i think better to practice this stuff ..
28:08 <T3sl4> i do a proposal: an abstract introducing the problem, a section specifying it, a section discussing concerns, timeline, cost, etc., and example legal contract (or final after negotiation)
28:57 <hsn> this might be stupid question but then if u dont get the job .. ur proposal perpare time is free :)
29:05 <hsn> ?
30:29 <T3sl4> so far at least, it hasn't gotten to that stage without also discussing payment, i.e. it's pretty likely to go through
30:33 <hsn> btw i dont have any business just trying to learn maybe after 1 or 2 years i open one (i think im skilled enough at that time)
30:55 <hsn> i see
31:45 <hsn> so discuss first, if they agreed u prepare proposal and they agree on it .. and then procceed with the job ..
32:23 <hsn> if i think im skilled enough at that time &**** ^^
33:42 <T3sl4> yes, it's rarely a "i want this, how much?" transaction
38:52 * Ysjoelfir has the "I want this, how much?" transactions most of the time >_>
39:09 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi T3sl4 and hsn
39:16 <T3sl4> o/
39:30 <hsn> o>
39:46 <hsn> i get "i want this" transactions
39:47 <hsn> hahaah
44:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Absolutely reprehensible move by @GladysB Destroying a classic museum to install apartments. https://t.co/xC26A98knZ The new site won't have any soul at all, most things will go into storage, and no one will travel to Parra to visit it. Idiotic.
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05:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Amazon prime have spared no expense on their space sci-fi content https://t.co/xbqRVsccM0
23:30 <coppice> They need to set a higher standard, and make sure everything reaches the space bar
55:14 <Ysjoelfir> why isn't that lemon guy here? rust_collector, did you eat him?
55:50 <rust_collector> yes, so?
56:14 <Ysjoelfir> oh, ok. that explains it
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