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15:07 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir thats expensive :/ remember when I missed a prema 6k for 70 euros because I was too slow to decide ? well, the dude did the 'I didnt understood when you said 'give me your paypal I take it' so I sold it to someone else' but still I should have been faster...
15:45 <K> meanwhile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg
21:14 <Lemon> hmmm theres a sale on another french vape website
21:18 <Lemon> how convenient !
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23:53 <Lemon> hey Ysjoelfir ! theres a sale on a french vape website !
24:04 <Lemon> who's gonna stock up ? yeah you guessed it !
25:12 <Ysjoelfir> hehe, nice
25:24 <Lemon> they got a smok resa prince for 12 euros man
25:44 <Lemon> I think I'll take it in case mine got broken or whatever and I need to wait on parts
25:46 <Lemon> so im not stuck
26:35 <Lemon> https://www.aromes-et-liquides.fr/e-liquide-chill-pill/7270-e-liquide-boston-blue-cheesecake-par-chill-pill.html
26:38 <Ysjoelfir> so i heard you will buy me all the stuff and bring it over?
26:40 <Lemon> this one is tempting me too
27:01 <Lemon> haha I wish I could go to deutschland a few days and spend them with you, you know !
27:20 <Lemon> we didnt have much time the last time :>
27:25 <Lemon> even if it was already quite cool !
28:13 <Lemon> https://www.aromes-et-liquides.fr/clearomiseurs-cartomiseurs/6046-clearomiseur-resa-prince-par-smoktech.html
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30:05 <steve30> hi
30:14 <Lemon> hello steve !
30:41 <Lemon> https://www.aromes-et-liquides.fr/drippers/4361-dripper-switch-rta-par-paradigm.html damn theres some good deals
31:23 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30
32:25 <Lemon> blueberry cheesecake
32:29 <Lemon> that sounds cool
32:47 <Lemon> I never tried stuff like this, I was more on the classic pineapple, banana etc
35:52 <Lemon> prices in general are a lot lower than a few years ago
36:23 <Lemon> the invader 3/tfv8 combo was well known, not high end but still quite nice and it was more around 80 euros+
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54:58 <K> byeeee
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07:03 <Lemon> one subohm tank, 2x50ml branded juice, some nicoboost for 31 euros delivered, how great is that
08:12 <hsn> so what is this ic : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32973955439.html
08:24 <hsn> i cant find any info about it
09:38 <Ysjoelfir> wait, I didn't decide what you want to gift to me, Lemon!
09:53 <Lemon> it will be a surprise ! :>
10:18 * Ysjoelfir is struggling with that strange language
10:34 <Lemon> monsieuuurrr baguettteee !
10:41 <Lemon> ho btw ! the powa analyzaaaa
11:05 <hsn> ysjoelfir i didnt recieve any of radio sdr stuff :>
11:52 <rust_collector> not enough jambon...
12:12 <Ysjoelfir> oh ye, I take pics for you now. hsn, still not? :O rusty, hi
12:39 <hsn> rusty hi how is ur place flood thingy
12:51 <hsn> i think i wont recieve them
13:06 <rust_collector> my place flood thingy?
13:28 <rust_collector> this place will not get flooded in 3000 years
13:59 <rust_collector> so, I guess I am just not very worried about it
20:53 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon
21:00 <Lemon> yesh
21:10 <rust_collector> potato
21:16 <Ysjoelfir> No idea why my phone is like "meh, don't have much battery left, so screw it. here's a photo made by a potato"
21:19 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty
21:29 <Lemon> no worries :>
21:40 <Ysjoelfir> this one I think I'll keep as i made a fitting cutout in that panel. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIDXUryIHc7x0VIVLV_LvnasGZHQR5NU/view?usp=sharing
21:58 <Lemon> I remember of that one yeah !
22:10 <Ysjoelfir> I have two of those. Willing to sell them sometime. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CHDRM1mNxFWXMv5Ql1ULyof1ItXSCLrH/view?usp=sharing
22:31 <Lemon> ha that would be perfect in that format
22:37 <rust_collector> that looks very chinky and non-3d printer
22:39 <Lemon> I dont remember, do you have specs of those in particular ? :>
23:11 <Ysjoelfir> and that is the "new" one I got. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1phNQMC4VDPGWTMNYGinipl-LdZ39LVtn/view?usp=sharing
23:25 <Lemon> big boi :>
23:51 <Ysjoelfir> not tooooo big actually. pretty nice size. smaller than eg. a 3456A
25:24 <Lemon> ho ok !
26:06 <Lemon> that would definitively be a great thing to tinker around :>
26:12 <rust_collector> I am annoyed by how "deep" some meter and things things are. they can be wide and tall, but not that deep, imo
26:33 <Lemon> rusty yeah the stack of hp dmm/counter + fluke counter is damn deep
26:36 <Ysjoelfir> I agree rusty
26:45 <Ysjoelfir> sadly most factories don't understand that
26:53 <Ysjoelfir> my employer doesn't, too
27:00 <Lemon> well II guess you can stack more of them
27:38 <rust_collector> if they were half the depth, you could still stack more than you can reach on them
28:23 <Ysjoelfir> our recent models come in the following sizes: freakishly deep and wide, but pretty "flat" (7 channels version), freakishly deep, pretty slim, as "flat" as the 7 ch version (4 channels), or not deep at all, but as wide and "flat" as the 7 channel one (1 channel)
28:27 <rust_collector> but it would not use half a bench of space, just because it is the size they used to be
28:39 <Ysjoelfir> half a bench? pfff. make that a complete bench
28:54 <rust_collector> Oh, yes, I did extend the bench, lol
29:48 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.zes.com/en/Products/Precision-Power-Analyzers/LMG671 see.
29:58 <Lemon> I cant find any datasheet for the lmg 90
30:04 <Ysjoelfir> LMG671 (Table top)	433 mm x 177 mm x 590 mm
30:22 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - thats because they are from.... 1980 or around there. there was no internet back then
30:45 <Lemon> pffrtt I got older things ! :P
30:51 <Lemon> do you have the specs at least ?
31:39 <Ysjoelfir> well... i'Äm sure we have them at the factory in a old, dusty file cabinet somewhere
31:44 <Ysjoelfir> take a look at that - https://files.vogel.de/vogelonline/vogelonline/companyfiles/1735.pdf
31:59 <Ysjoelfir> thats the last prospect before they went out of sale
34:17 <Ysjoelfir> oh! wait. I MIGHT have something in digital format. let me check
34:48 <Ysjoelfir> ha. I have a users manual. but only in german, Lemon
36:06 <rust_collector> oh no! it might as well be in swahili
36:28 <Ysjoelfir> :P
36:31 <Lemon> ho I guess numbers will be understandable :>
36:42 <Lemon> its just to know the maximum input, accuracy etc
41:09 <Ysjoelfir> I made you two screenshots. one sec
42:12 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir
42:14 * Ampera squeezes Lemon 
42:19 * Ampera corrodes rust_collector 
42:28 <Lemon> aye boi whaddup
42:35 <Ampera> did you just assume my gender
42:45 <Lemon> YES
42:50 <Lemon> I ASSUME EVERYTHING
42:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hi sweetheart
42:54 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c_2_dn91pVKa4N2M54rvDvLsGS9m-FFf/view?usp=sharing
43:03 <Lemon> thanks dude :>
43:06 <Ampera> Lemon, oh okay, just checking
43:13 <Ysjoelfir> and nr 2 Lemon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/179j53e7f_xguoMGs-gQQC1bP7ZIM9yLd/view?usp=sharing
45:37 <Lemon> 1500v/60a max, at once ?
47:01 <Ysjoelfir> thats peak. but yes, at once
47:15 <rust_collector> hey Ampera !!! what can I do to you? if you squeeze and corrode us...
47:22 <Lemon> damn thats what, 90kw ? :o
47:30 <Lemon> continuous it can do half of that I guess no ?
47:43 <rust_collector> how long is a peak
47:48 <Ampera> rust_collector, tell me things I already know, like how I'm a broken excuse of a human being and would probably be happier dead than alive
47:53 <Ampera> or just say hi
48:17 <rust_collector> well, I would not say broken...
48:22 <rust_collector> hi Ampera
48:29 <Ampera> hi rust_collector how are you doing
48:44 <rust_collector> I am starting to dry up. I like it
49:03 <rust_collector> otoh, I have to pee... brb
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49:24 <Ampera> holy shit
49:26 <Ampera> NOTHING
49:30 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
49:37 <Nothing\> woohoo! i finally found a proper "6502" emulator!
49:41 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
49:44 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
49:45 <Nothing\> how goes it, buddy?
49:51 <Nothing\> i'm doing well, tired, but well
49:54 <Nothing\> happy about the emulator
50:15 <Ampera> I hate everything and I feel like shit, but the apocalypse may soon lapse here, people may or may not be breaking shit and hurting each other a tad less, and I am ordering pizza tomorrow
50:20 <Lemon> hi Nothing\ ! the 6502 was the favourite microcontroller of my father :>
50:22 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - yes.
50:22 <Nothing\> like, i've been playing with VICE for a while, and i found out the C128 has a built in monitor that assembles ASM
50:47 <Nothing\> Lemon, awesome, though admittedly it's not an actual 6502, but an offshoot called the 8502, but it's the same basic thing
50:59 <Ampera> Nothing\, the C128 is an interesting machine to program for. I have one myself
51:12 <rust_collector> let people break shit, as long as you can order pizza, things are fine
51:16 <Lemon> he built a little computer with parts he found here and there, on catalogs etc, in 1988
51:25 <Nothing\> it's like the difference between a 6502 and a 6510 or a Ricoh 2A03
51:44 <Nothing\> Lemon, heh i've got a couple of 6502 chips i hope to build computers from one of these days
51:59 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah man i had no idea it had a built in monitor, it makes playing with it so much more interesting
52:25 <Nothing\> it's like wozmon if you're familiar
52:51 <Nothing\> lets you assemble asm, check memory values, and do all sorts of low level stuff
53:23 <Nothing\> Lemon, 6502 is definitely my favourite CPU as well, though
53:40 <Nothing\> i'm sorry you're feeling shit though, Ampera
53:59 <Ampera> Nothing\, blech
54:04 <Nothing\> :(
54:37 <T3sl4> o/
54:54 <Nothing\> Ampera, the difficult thing with your situation is i think what would be best for you is to socialize with likeminded people, but you're so unique that it's difficult to find such people
55:00 <Nothing\> heya T3sl4 how goes it, man?
55:04 <Ampera> I hate other people
55:06 <Ampera> they're all cucks
55:16 * Ampera throws a bratwurst haphazardly at T3sl4 
55:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's because you haven't found likeminded people
55:18 <T3sl4> good
55:28 * T3sl4 mustards Ampera
55:29 <Ampera> Nothing\, I hate myself, why would I want to talk to people like me
55:41 <Nothing\> and if you're like me, which you seem to be, you probably don't feel like wading through the tons of shitheads to find those likeminded people
55:43 <Ampera> T3sl4, that better be whole grain or I'm going to be very upset with you
56:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, not people like you, just people with similar beliefs and interests, and such
56:21 <Nothing\> T3sl4, goo to hear
56:30 <Ampera> Nothing\, why do you want me to visit an insane asylum
56:30 <Nothing\> my damn cat keeps chewing on the ends of USB chargers
56:37 <Nothing\> he's gonna end up getting zapped one of these days
56:43 <rust_collector> hehe, I want a video of someone cloning ampera, and putting 7 of them in a room
57:00 <Ampera> rust_collector, there will be blood very quickly
57:14 <Ampera> either that or the creepiest fucking orgy you've ever seen
57:15 <rust_collector> I don't mind
57:48 <T3sl4> Ampera: mustard so spicy it will separate your soul from your body
58:00 <Ampera> T3sl4, that's presuming I even have a soul
58:05 <Nothing\> spicy mustard is awesome
58:09 <Nothing\> i love french mustard
58:16 <T3sl4> it'll find a way. it's /spicy/.
58:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, i imagine something like evolution in action
59:24 <Nothing\> like one of those programs that generates a bunch of similar entities and has them complete a task and keeps the one that does best and evolves it slightly
59:36 <Ampera> Nothing\, in other news my pinebook pro is awesome
59:43 <Ampera> I don't know if I told you about it, or if you recall it at all
59:51 <Nothing\> pinebook pro? no you haven't told me
00:02 <Nothing\> i'm not even sure what that is, i imagine a macbook made of wood
00:06 <Ampera> no no no
00:15 <Ampera> It's a 200$ complete ARM laptop from PINE64
00:19 <rust_collector> oakpad
00:30 <Ampera> https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/ Nothing\
00:53 <Ampera> I had ordered one a couple months ago, and it came in maybe a couple weeks ago
01:13 <Ampera> I've just been getting around to using it, and it's incredible. The thing is beautifully made, it can take NVMe SSDs
01:38 <Ampera> it charges by USB-C, has a beautiful 1920x1080 IPS display, and the RK3399 in there is powerful enough to watch YouTube at 1080p
01:47 <Lemon> Ampera I bought a few things to get back to vaping, as I'm a bit tired on spending money on cigs/want to slow down a bit
02:10 <Ampera> Lemon, Nice, e-cigs are almost illegal in the US
02:21 <Ampera> iirc you can only buy tobacco flavours, and have to be 21
02:22 <Lemon> yeah I read about that
02:29 <Nothing\> oooh goody, i finally got a package
02:32 <Lemon> and for real cigs ?
02:34 <Ampera> The only reason it's like that is because it caused people to stop buying real cigs
02:35 <Nothing\> only 3 months after i ordered the damn thing
02:35 <Lemon> 21 too ?
02:40 <Nothing\> i'll have to see what it is
02:42 <Lemon> ofc it is
02:45 <Lemon> capitalism
02:46 <Ampera> 21 for real cigs I believe, but I don't know
02:54 <Ampera> but you can get whatever cigs you want
02:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah that 21 thing is bullshit, the age for cigs and drinking here is 19
03:04 <Ampera> 19?
03:09 <Ampera> I thought it was 18
03:13 <Nothing\> though in quebec it's 18 so people on the border go over there to drink young
03:18 <Ampera> ah
03:19 <Nothing\> it depends on the province
03:30 <Nothing\> i think quebec's the only one where it's 18 though
03:32 <Ampera> I was tempted to do that, but honestly I just don't want alcohol to enter into my life
03:38 <Ampera> maybe one day, but I don't trust it, and it ruined my family
03:47 <Nothing\> the reason they made it 19 here is so people in highschool aren't able to drink and buy it for their underage friends
04:01 <Nothing\> yeah i have no interest in alcohol anymore
04:08 <Ampera> lol, for wine, cider, and beer it's 16 in Germany
04:20 <Nothing\> i used to drink like a fish, but then it just started feeling like i was being poisoned, even after just half a drink
04:28 <Ampera> but it's way more casual there as I understand it, the sorta thing where you'd walk into a restaurant and just have a beer
04:36 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir could elaborate, he is a filthy kraut
04:36 <Nothing\> my heart would beat out of my chest, i'd get anxious, i'd feel generally unwell etc
04:39 <Lemon> alchoohol its probably the worst drug
04:48 <Nothing\> it just isn't enjoyable
04:52 <Nothing\> and nevermind the hangover
04:52 <Lemon> one of the two drugs where withdrawals can kill you
05:02 <Lemon> the second being what is given to you to stop alchohol lol
05:10 <Lemon> good ol benzos
05:11 <Nothing\> Lemon, nah there are several classes of drugs where the withdrawal can kill you
05:20 <Nothing\> benzos for instance, can kill you from the withdrawal
05:23 <Nothing\> or barbiturates
05:25 <Lemon> benzos and alchohol
05:36 <Lemon> hmmm barbiturates im not sure but might be yeah
05:39 <Lemon> well thats close enough
05:43 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543488350040883200/718332078562738216/2020-06-03-012427_1920x1080_scrot.png
05:49 <Ampera> Nothing\, that's the desktop on my pinebook at the moment
05:49 <Lemon> but idk if theres others
05:49 <Nothing\> or other gabaergics like GHB, GBL, and 1,4-butanediol, which are all pretty much the same drug
06:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, thanks, i meant to click the link but it get buried before i got a chance
06:14 <Ampera> oh
06:19 <Nothing\> ooh that's sexy
06:19 <Ampera> https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/
06:21 <Ampera> ere you go
06:21 <rust_collector> aarch? arch arm?
06:35 <Ampera> rust_collector, ARM architecture 64
06:42 <Nothing\> sexy design, too
06:46 <Nothing\> real sleek looking
06:52 <Nothing\> and nothing to do with mac, i take it
06:58 <Ampera> It's full 64-bit Linux, which not even the Pi 4 does atm iirc
07:09 <Ampera> Nothing\, of course it has something to do with mac
07:11 <Nothing\> for some reason the name evokes thoughts of mac
07:15 <Nothing\> oh
07:19 <Ampera> oh, the pinebook?
07:22 <Ampera> no, nothing to do with mac
07:24 <Nothing\> yeah
07:29 <Ampera> Window Maker, the window manager in the screenshot, does
07:32 <Nothing\> anywho let's see what's in this package
07:39 <Ampera> It's a port of NeXTSTEP to X11
08:01 <Nothing\> aha some chips!
08:06 <Nothing\> but what kind of chips, i wonder
08:08 <Ampera> what flavour
08:15 <rust_collector> have you tried plan9?
08:23 <Ampera> rust_collector, no I have not, it's confused me
08:25 <Nothing\> CD4049
08:29 <rust_collector> as he is canadian, probably ketchup
08:31 <Ampera> as it's not really Unix compatible aiui
08:33 <Nothing\> which i have no idea wtf that is
08:39 <Ampera> It's just what Bell Labs was doing after Unix
08:39 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector i hate ketchup chips
08:47 <Nothing\> they taste nothing like ketchup, they're disgusting
08:50 <Ampera> I've always wanted to try catsup chips
08:52 <Nothing\> i love poutine, though
09:02 <Nothing\> KFC sells poutine here with their gravy, it's to die for
09:10 <Nothing\> lol the cat's going crazy over the enveleope
09:12 <Ampera> I love the idea of someone poutine their dick inside of me
09:19 <Nothing\> trying to get it out of the garbage
09:46 <Nothing\> i have this garbage can made of metal mesh, the cat alwasy gets tripped out by the visual disorientation the mesh causes
09:56 <Nothing\> he also likes to jump into it for some reason
10:18 <Ampera> Nothing\, I actually put a 1TB PCIe SSD into this laptop too
10:22 <Ampera> so it's got tons of really fast storage
10:27 <Nothing\> nice!
10:35 <Nothing\> you notice a huge difference from that?
10:40 <Ampera> difference to what
10:47 <Nothing\> now then, wtf is a CD4049, i think it's a monostable but i'm not sure
10:53 <Nothing\> difference from using a non-ssd
11:18 <Ampera> In general? Yeah tons
11:22 <Nothing\> oh, it's an inverter
11:31 <Nothing\> why on earth would i buy another inverter
11:43 <Ampera> In context of the pinebook, the pinebook doesn't have a hard drive
11:47 <Ampera> and one can't easily be installed
11:50 <Nothing\> oh okay
11:59 <Ampera> it normally comes with eMMC storage
11:59 <Nothing\> so it's like a thin client?
12:03 <Ampera> no
12:04 <Nothing\> connects to a server instead?
12:06 <Ampera> no
12:08 <Nothing\> or runs on ROM?
12:10 <Ampera> no
12:16 <Ampera> it has storage, it just doesn't have a hard drive
12:26 <Ampera> it's all SSD
12:35 <Nothing\> ah okay, cool
12:36 <Ampera> I just stuck a large, fast SSD into it
12:48 <Ampera> it can also take special eMMC modules and SD cards
13:23 <Nothing\> hrm it's a hex buffer inverter and "converter" i wonder what it converts
13:26 <Nothing\> voltage levels?
13:33 <Nothing\> must read on
13:44 * Ampera converts Nothing\ to /gnihtoN
13:57 <Nothing\> ah yeah, logic level conversion
14:06 <Nothing\> but why on earth would i get that, i don't need that
14:19 <Nothing\> and i already have some other variety of 4000 series inverters
14:30 <Nothing\> though the pins are so horribly corroded
14:42 <Nothing\> i tried to put one into a a socket and one of the pins broke off
15:07 <Nothing\> i forget what kind they were
15:24 <Nothing\> some sort of chinesium, probably counterfeit as are about 90% of the chips i get on aliexpress
16:29 <Nothing\> it's funny though, if i didn't know what to look for, i never would have guessed that any of these chips were counterfeit
16:54 <Nothing\> except maybe the ones where the TI logo is a picture of the united states itself, instead of just texas
17:23 <Nothing\> but performancewise, they work just like i'd expect them to, at least without characterizing them
19:01 <Nothing\> they even take abuse pretty well, i can't count how many times i've had a brain fart and accidentally hooked 7400 chips up to a 9v battery without bumping it down to 5v, as needs to be done with all 7400 chips, whereas 4000 series chips can take up to 20v
20:12 <Nothing\> i've done sort of the same thing when i've been working with MOSFETs a lot and then i go to use a BJT and forget that i need a current limiting resistor on the base and end up connecting the base directly to 9v and let out the magic smoke
21:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, you know, i wonder if there's some sort of logical operation that will reverse a byte like that
21:54 <Ampera> in what context?
21:55 <Ampera> C?
22:01 <Nothing\> just any context
22:04 <Nothing\> assembly i guess
22:07 <Ampera> uhh
22:14 <Ampera> assembly it'd depend on the assembly and endianess
22:16 <Nothing\> rotate left/right 8 times?
22:43 <Nothing\> i noticed windows actually has a pretty good programmer's calculator built into it
22:43 <Ampera> ~variable is how it's done in C
22:48 <T3sl4> sometimes there's a bit-reverse op, more often you gotta do it by hand and it's just 16 shifts, or as many mask operations
22:53 <Ampera> doesn't have RPN it's shit
23:06 <Nothing\> T3sl4, oh so you don't even have to rotate it
23:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, heh i just learned how to use RPN the other day
23:24 <Nothing\> i've gotta say, i've yet to see the advantage, but i like it
23:26 <Ampera> I used RPN throughout all of my college
23:37 <Ampera> you need RPN CAS, then you get an advantage
23:45 <Nothing\> unfortunately i only have one calculator that does RPN, at least one that i use
23:56 <Nothing\> i have an HP Prime emulator that probably will do it, but i never use that
24:04 <Ampera> I have an actual HP Prime
24:05 <Ampera> which is my go-to
24:12 <Ampera> I also have an HP48G and HP50G
24:33 <T3sl4> Nothing\: on most platforms it would be SHR r0; ROL r1; (repeat 8 times)
24:36 <T3sl4> or the opposite direction
26:07 <Nothing\> my go to is either my TI-36X Pro, an app on the phone called Hiper Calc Pro, which is pretty awesome as far as phone calculators go, or a pretty well made scientific calculator i got at the dollar store
26:23 <Ampera> I fucking hate TI calculators
26:31 <Nothing\> depending on what room i'm in, i have the TI in my bedroom, the dollar store one in my bathroom and the phone one where ever else i am
26:32 <Ampera> They're complete and total ripoffs and I actually get very angry when I see TI calculators
26:34 <Ampera> like seriously mad
26:41 <Nothing\> how come?
26:46 <rust_collector> hipster calc pro is awesome
26:53 <Nothing\> T3sl4, hrm i'll have to try that out
26:59 <Ampera> because they fucking rob and plunder students all across the US and make terrible plasticy shit calculators
27:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh yeah, cuz students are forced to buy TI calcs for math class
27:25 <Nothing\> and they are overpriced as hell, i've noticed
27:30 <Ampera> so fuck em
27:39 <Nothing\> a TI-86 costs just as much as an HP Prime
27:40 <Ampera> even their nicer ones aren't even all that good, I need RPN
27:44 <Nothing\> which is around $120
28:01 <Nothing\> i could buy a damn phone with a TI calculator emulator on it for $120
28:41 <Nothing\> i just got the TI one cuz i was in walmart and happened to see it at the time, but yeha it was still like $35
28:55 <Nothing\> and it's just a scientific calculator, no graphing or programming or anything
29:05 <T3sl4> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/746171/efficient-algorithm-for-bit-reversal-from-msb-lsb-to-lsb-msb-in-c
29:07 <Ampera> My HP50 is my favourite RPN calculator, and the only reason I don't use it is because the screen is harder to read than the Prime and it's not rechargeable
29:07 <Nothing\> i mean it does calculus and algebra and complex numbers, which is nice
29:15 <Nothing\> T3sl4, oooh thanks man
31:10 <Ampera> three hours and thirty minutes until it's the weekend
31:12 <Ampera> AWIFOGHAWOIUGHU
31:54 <Nothing\> T3sl4, funnily enough, for the shifting thing. to try it out it seems it'll be easier for me to just make a circuit in logisim to do it rather than using the calculator in windows lol
31:54 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
32:06 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera too <3
32:10 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 and Nothing\ 
32:14 <Nothing\> Ampera hugs all around!
32:24 <Ampera> alright this is getting gayer than I am fond of
32:26 <Nothing\> aw heck this just doesn't feel right without....
32:29 <Ampera> stop this homosexuality or I will ban you all
32:30 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 
32:36 <T3sl4> i mean, if you're making a circuit it's literally just wires, bit swaps are trivial if you need only one kind
32:51 <Nothing\> nah, there's nothing wrong with hugging a guy
33:02 <Nothing\> or nothing gay anyways
33:12 <T3sl4> the problem of course is there's 8! kinds of swaps so it's only reasonable to make the most obvious/common/universal ones
33:43 <Nothing\> hrm good point
34:01 <Nothing\> oh man why do i always hold my pee until i'm ready to burst when i'm talking to you guys
34:06 <T3sl4> like if you have a parallel bus on a CPU, it's literally adding an IO port, latch and bus driver, with the latch output connected in reverse order to the bus driver :)
34:37 <Nothing\> yeah i almost always use parallel busses in my designs cuz i find they just make more intuitive sense to me
34:57 <Nothing\> but it's not like my designs are super complex circuits anyways
35:24 <Nothing\> actually that's not true
35:30 <Nothing\> my LFSR had serial output
35:53 <Nothing\> but also parallel output, but the serial output was what looped back into the input
36:02 <Nothing\> the parallel was just to act as a display
38:42 <Lemon> hey nothing
38:45 <Lemon> you vape right ?
38:54 <Nothing\> yup, i actually just vaped as you were saying that lol
39:03 <Lemon> haha nice, im getting back to it !
39:21 <Nothing\> right on, back into from smoking cigs? or did you just stop all nicotine?
39:26 <Lemon> I still have a tesla invader 3, bought a tfv16, and a resa prince (the prince was 12 euros, fuck it)
39:40 <Lemon> well thats to stop a bit yeah
39:56 <Lemon> I used to vape at 100-120 watts with a tfv8, 3mg/ml
39:57 <Nothing\> yeah, mine's an asspyre breeze 2, probably no more than 12 euros too
40:13 <Nothing\> asspyre (sic) i should say
40:14 <Lemon> there was some nice sales, 50ml juices for 8euros ! and branded stuff
40:22 <Nothing\> nice!
40:23 <Lemon> twelve monkeys, and hmm chill pill I think
40:39 <Nothing\> i pay like... oh damn what was it now
40:43 <Lemon> with luck I get it tommorow, but more monday I think
40:49 <Nothing\> i think $25 or so for a 30ml bottle
40:57 <Lemon> damn !
41:02 <Lemon> I got lucky then
41:05 <Nothing\> which is probably $15 euros
41:07 <Lemon> bought three different bottles
41:12 <Lemon> more like 22 euros I think
41:20 <Nothing\> in CAD, mind you
41:22 <Nothing\> not USD
41:24 <Lemon> ha !
41:35 <Lemon> yeah 16.5
41:50 <rust_collector> that is like 3 real money
41:52 <Lemon> damn I paid 8 for 50ml ones, + 1 euros for nicotine
41:57 <Lemon> that was a hell of a deal
42:03 <Lemon> especially for branded stuff
42:04 <Nothing\> 16.50e for $25CAD according to XE
42:07 <Ysjoelfir> so lemon, are you done translating those datasheets?
42:10 <Nothing\> dang, you beat me to it
42:17 <Nothing\> oh good news Lemon
42:29 <Lemon> haa Ysjoelfir no sadly :> but you gave me the info I needed !
42:44 <Lemon> it looks like a great instrument
42:51 <Nothing\> i'm supposed to go back to jail on the 27th, but the extended the state of emergency in ontario to june 30th, so it looks like i'll be staying home even longer
42:52 <Nothing\> :D
42:54 <Lemon> gimme some ideas on what to do with it ! :P
43:04 <Lemon> ha g reat news !
43:17 <Nothing\> lol i've only served 5 weekends since february, where i was supposed to be serving weekends until august 23rd
43:30 <Nothing\> and each weekend still counts cuz i'm on house arrest still
43:42 <Nothing\> even though that doesn't really change anything since i never leave the house anyways
44:09 <Nothing\> and they don't even check in on me or put an ankle bracelet on me or do anything to monitor the house arrest
44:41 <Ysjoelfir> lemon - you could characterize impedances, measure losses, efficiency and so om...
44:48 <Nothing\> so i mean, there's nothing to stop me going out and partying if i wanted to, except the very slight chance of making contact with police and them finding out i was breaching my house arrest
44:49 <Ysjoelfir> Nothing\ great, thats good news :)
45:01 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, thanks man, i know i love it!
45:19 <Nothing\> this situation's turned out SOOOO much better than i ever could have imagined
45:47 <Nothing\> considering i was looking at a mandatory minimum of 9 months, but more like 2 years given the circumstances
46:03 <Lemon> I was pretty sure it would go the good way ! you deserved it :>
46:09 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir I want it even more now ! xd
46:39 <Nothing\> Lemon, part of me knew it would on account of my faith, but a bigger part of me thought it would go to shit cuz that's just the norm for me and what i expected to happen
47:02 <Lemon> I understand it, I always expect the worst
47:14 <Nothing\> i'm still new to this whole god protecting me and having faith thing, before i opened myself up to god things more or less always went to shit, so that's just what i've come to expect still
47:47 <Nothing\> yeah my logic is if i expect the worst and the worst happens, i'm at least prepared for it, but if something better happens, it ends up being a pleasant surprise
48:04 <Nothing\> but in realized, expecting the worst just turns me into a nervous wreck and wreaks havok with my anxiety disorder
48:44 <Nothing\> *in reality
49:15 <Nothing\> those 2 years where i was awaiting my trial were some of the most stressful of my life
49:50 <Nothing\> though i think the years after my wife left me were worse, but that's more down to the fact that i just didn't have the coping skills back then that i have now
50:31 <Nothing\> that and because i was in a custody/access battle over my daughter so i couldn't just forget about my ex, but rather had to be at odds with her constantly
51:17 <Nothing\> that made it take years to come to terms with, where it probably would have been a lot shorter and less stressful if i could have just moved on and forgot about her
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55:49 * Ampera gives Nothing\ a cute bunny
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07:22 <Nothing\> Ampera, why couldn't you put the bunny back in the box?
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07:40 <Nothing\> lol i just blew my cat's mind by casting a video of him playing onto the tv and letting him watch it
07:41 <Ampera> Nothing\, she is, she's in her cage right now
07:43 <Ampera> sitting inside her box
07:49 <Nothing\> it ended when he wiped out trying to pounce on the TV
08:13 <Nothing\> this cat is such a damned hand full though
08:37 <Nothing\> it's just like having a toddler in the house, you have to kitten proof absolutely everything and watch him like a hawk
09:08 <Nothing\> there are some days when i'm after him literally every minute or so for getting into something he shouldn,t or for biting me or attacking my feet randomly
09:22 <Nothing\> he chews on my my mom's face while she sleeps lol
10:12 <Nothing\> we found out why he's so rambunctous though, apparently he's part maine coon and they're really good cats for mousing. so real energetic and with a lot of instincts to kill things
10:35 <Nothing\> which is kinda cool, cuz maine coons can get pretty big
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12:08 <Nothing\> https://i.redd.it/tjf4mapck6s11.jpg
12:35 <Nothing\> they're like a damn bobcat or a lynx
12:49 <Nothing\> and apparently take 3-5 years to reach full size
18:24 <Nothing\> oh wow that was one of the most painful toe stubs i've ever experienced, hands down
18:50 <Nothing\> holy fuck thta had me reeling for at least 5 or 10 minutes screaming enough that my throat's hoarse now
19:02 <Nothing\> thank god for endorphines
19:38 <Nothing\> holy fuck i can't believe how much that hurt
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20:41 <Nothing\> scared the shit out of the cat, too
21:09 <Ampera> Nothing\, screaming for 10 minutes?
21:11 <Ampera> wow
21:15 <Ampera> I've never had anything like that
22:19 <Nothing\> yeah i've rarely been in that much pain
22:39 <Nothing\> it still hurts like the dickens, but at least it's bearable now
23:04 <Nothing\> the only time i've stubbed my toe bad enough to scream in pain, i broke the toe
23:09 <Nothing\> which only ever happened twice
23:16 <Nothing\> though this one doesn't feel broken, so far
23:30 <Nothing\> i'll have to see once i'm comfortable enough to try moving it
23:57 <Nothing\> yeah it bends arlight, so i don't think anything's broken
24:15 <rust_collector> hmm, it will bend just fine, even if it is broken
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24:32 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah i just remembered that the other two times i broke a toe
24:59 <Nothing\> at least a broken toe's easy to treat. just tape it to the toe next to it and leave it for a few weeks
25:16 <rust_collector> meh, it will be ok
25:17 <Lemon> ho I can talk about that
25:21 <Nothing\> i should elevate this
25:28 <Lemon> I got my two pinky two broken
25:35 <Lemon> they never healed
25:42 <Nothing\> Lemon, yup, same
25:45 <Nothing\> but they healed fine
25:58 <Nothing\> i can't remember if it was both of them, or just the one twice
26:22 <Nothing\> but i didn't think it was broken cuz i figured it would hurt more
26:27 <Nothing\> but x-rays showed otherwise
27:14 <Nothing\> can't walk without limping, but that may just be the initial pain still
27:18 <rust_collector> I broke my foot once, it was imo very different.
28:00 <rust_collector> toes are pretty ok. they are messed up from using shoes anyway
28:00 <Nothing\> i almost broke my ankle on my grade 8 graduation. they thought it was broken so i was in a cast for a couple of weeks but once the swelling went down enough they saw that it wasn't actually broken
28:30 <Nothing\> but stupid me, 13 years old, all hopped up on caffeine, running about the dance floor wearing dress shoes and i rolled my ankle
28:47 <Nothing\> damn thing swelled up to the size of a softball, literally
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29:58 <Nothing\> another time i was on benzos and alcohol and going down the stairs in my apartment building to have a smoke, and 3 or 4 steps up i missed the next step and fell those 3 or 4 steps to the ground, but luckily my ankle broke my fall when i landed on it and rolled it
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30:17 <rust_collector> I am trying to remember the name of that russian guy, that was here once, and had loads of pics of personel carriers
30:31 <Nothing\> i didn't break it, but i remember immediately after the injury, i started getting really cold, i was sweating profusely and shaking uncontrollably
30:46 <Nothing\> it was strange, i guess i went into shock from the injury
30:58 <rust_collector> something like that
31:40 <Nothing\> but i justdragged myself back to my apartment and went to bed. in the morning i quite literally dragged myself to the hospital to make sure it wasn't broken and luckily it wasn't
32:15 <Nothing\> but i've fucked up my ankles bad like that so many times. it's a worder i'm not permagimped
32:47 <rust_collector> I wish you had one of those little crates on wheels, that the lepers sit in
33:11 <Nothing\> lol they gave me crutches for the grade 8 thing
33:41 <rust_collector> yeah, take that, health care system thing
34:21 <Nothing\> man, one time i had a 4in knife stuck in my thigh. luckily it missed anything important like nerves or tendons or what have you. but after they pulled it out they just have me crutches and sent me out to walk the 20 blocks home cuz i had no cab or bus fare
34:46 <Nothing\> it was surprisingly non-painful considering the injury
34:55 <Nothing\> at worst it just felt like a bad charlie horse
34:55 <rust_collector> well, you spent your care on crutches already
35:01 <rust_collector> hah
35:16 <Nothing\> lol they left the knife in for like 5 hours while they assessed it
35:16 <rust_collector> did they steal your kidney?
35:26 <Nothing\> they kept telling me i'd need surgery for it but i never did
35:46 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol i honest to god think they experimented on me one time in the ER
36:16 <rust_collector> you are in all the books, in er school
36:37 <rust_collector> that is why you do not remember that week
37:04 <Nothing\> i overdosed on a sedative that's like a benzo called imovane, mixed with alcohol and the next day i had this weird mark on my arm where there was a perfectly rectangular depression where the skin felt like it was made of plastic, all hard and no feeling to it at all
37:45 <Nothing\> and over the next week or two, the skin gradually fell off, revealing a large ulceration of some sort which looked sort of like a 2nd degree burn after the blister had come off
37:57 <Nothing\> and like a burn, it took 5 or 6 months to heal
38:06 <Nothing\> even though it was about the size of a zippo
38:32 <Nothing\> and i have numbness there now from the nerve endings being destroyed
39:44 <Nothing\> i have no clue what would have caused an injury like that, closest thing i could compare it to was a burn, but i've had lots of 2nd and 3rd degree burns and none of them looked like that
41:27 <Nothing\> i figure they must have done some sort of experiment on me to cause it
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28:13 <Lemon> hmm those yageo resistors are pretty well matched
28:19 <Lemon> 0.08% at best
29:02 <Lemon> supposed to be 0.1%
29:06 <Lemon> ho well its alright
58:52 <Lemon> I found some attiny 85 on breakboards
59:07 <Lemon> maybe thats enough to drive a tiny oled and that bme280 humidity/pressure sensor
00:54 * T3sl4 humidifies Lemon
01:19 <Lemon> heh
01:23 <Lemon> watcha think teslaboi
01:30 <Lemon> the attiny is up for the task ?
01:32 <Lemon> I never used those
02:00 <rust_collector> how many pins do you need?
02:27 <rust_collector> (and do they have that many?)
02:50 <T3sl4> uh, sure?
02:56 <T3sl4> I2C or SPI i guess
02:59 <Lemon> seems it got 6 pins
03:10 <Lemon> I need to drive a tiny i2c oled
03:15 <Lemon> and the sensor
03:26 <Lemon> theres maybe enough space for a reset button
03:42 <T3sl4> if they're both I2C, and don't need CS or IRQ or whatever pins, and their addresses don't conflict, yeah that's fine
28:14 <Lemon> yeah it should be fine
28:23 <Lemon> I'll wire all that on a little protoboard
28:32 <Lemon> no box this time it'll just be a lil module like this
29:40 <Lemon> im makin in rusty style :>
29:47 <Lemon> this aint no metrology this time
30:08 <Lemon> buuuuut those lil sensors are fine for what they are, absolute accuracy is like 2%
30:14 <Lemon> which is fine enough for pressure/humidity
30:46 <rust_collector> mmh, maybe you should put it in a box
31:24 <Lemon> boarf idk really
31:27 <Lemon> it looks nice like this
31:39 <Lemon> I just laid everything on it to get the layout
33:08 <Lemon> damn theres some 18650 that are really impressive
33:21 <Lemon> the ones I have are already really good, 3ah, 15amps drain max
33:26 <Lemon> some can pump 30 amps
33:35 <Lemon> thats like 130watts+
45:55 <Lemon> damn I still need to find me some probe/crocodile/grabber 4mm clips on
46:11 <Lemon> pfff never something got that hard to be bought
46:30 <Lemon> I swear I could buy drugs online easier than those for some unknown reasons
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15:00 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/CMC-6005R-CU-Red-Copper-Speaker-Spade-Y-Fork-Plug-Audio-Connector-Terminal-Lotx4/223447912986?hash=item340688921a:g:LDsAAOSwKytZN7a0 I wonder if those with a nice copper cable would be great, for low emf connections
16:29 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/HI-FI-Pure-Copper-BiWire-Speaker-Cable-Banana-plugs-Line-Wire/272832882499?hash=item3f861b6743:m:mIlzA9fjYc_AmzXv6ASIMJw
16:38 <Lemon> like those cables, made for audio but they should perform well
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21:31 <Halcyon> Morning all
56:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, my 2nd channel has gotten a recent push by The Algorithm™ "You" is EEVblog "Them" is EEVblog2 https://t.co/sYVr0LHto5
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01:17 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
01:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ah, yep, The Algorithm™ has been pushing some older videos https://t.co/0qivDc7b5D
01:59 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
02:11 <Ampera> How are you doing
02:33 <Halcyon> Eh
02:39 <Halcyon> Still trying to work out this stupid program
02:53 <Ampera> Want to call in like five minutes?
02:59 <Halcyon> Although being distracted by birb videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCGoUj5m2Pc
03:05 <Halcyon> Sure, I need a break
09:35 <Ampera> Halcyon, ready
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34:15 <Halcyon> Ampera, I worked out that program!
34:21 <Halcyon> I think it was a fluke though
38:04 <steve30> hi Halcyon
38:18 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :) How are you./
40:34 <steve30> Ok ta, I just had coffee
42:25 <Halcyon> Nice
42:26 <Halcyon> :)
47:28 <ThunderSqueak> Hi Halcyon
47:48 <ThunderSqueak> I wrote a thing on twitter ... it is more personal than I usually write :/
48:37 <Halcyon> What did you write?
48:51 <ThunderSqueak> https://twitter.com/ThunderSqueakAK/status/1269102597585072128?s=20
50:25 <Halcyon> That is horrible, even unthinkable that something like that could ever happen to a gay person in a developed country
51:45 <ThunderSqueak> unlike a gay person, I can't hide it either
52:24 <ThunderSqueak> but that is my reality
52:34 <Halcyon> :(
52:47 <ThunderSqueak> <- Trans
53:06 <Halcyon> *nod*
53:25 <Halcyon> But even still, a lot of gay people can't hide it, no matter how they try
54:00 <ThunderSqueak> a beige transwoman ... and no matter what I do I cannot change that fact
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55:24 <Nothing\> well no wonder i was so confused as to why i got a pack of 4049s today when i have no use for such chips. the dumb shits sent me the wrong chips. they were supposed to be 4094s :/
55:54 <Halcyon> ?
55:55 <Nothing\> that's my China! WAHWAH
56:29 <Nothing\> Halcyon, cd4000 series chips
56:52 * Halcyon blinks at Nothing\ 
57:15 <Nothing\> Halcyon, beep boop?
57:47 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, shit like that happens... I have seen racial discrimination, LGBT discrimination, ... the stuff happening ... my emotions are running really high
58:23 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, discrimination is disgustingly common
58:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Only 8.2% of my audience have notifications enabled. probably very typical. https://t.co/pYfb52jsk2
58:40 <Nothing\> what's worse is when somebody claims discrimination wrongfully for their own benefit
58:56 <ThunderSqueak> Nothing\, https://twitter.com/ThunderSqueakAK/status/1269102597585072128?s=20
59:07 <Nothing\> there's this trans woman in vancouver who keeps trying to sue beauty salons because they refuse to wax her nether-regions
59:19 <ThunderSqueak> anyway...
59:25 <Nothing\> when they don't wax anyone's nether regions period, not just trans peoples'
59:33 <Nothing\> but she claims they won't do it because she's trans
00:12 <ThunderSqueak> heh, I have been told by doctors that they will not treat me and pointedly told to go somewhere else
00:26 <Nothing\> aw fuck ThunderSqueak i'm sorry that happened :(
00:45 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, what state do you live in. if you don't mind my asking
00:55 <ThunderSqueak> I live in Alaska now
01:24 <Nothing\> ah, i had friends who lived in alaska, they died in their car in a park after becoming stranded :/
01:26 <ThunderSqueak> it is better here tbh, probably because of how mixed the population is... we still have discrimination but...
01:44 <Nothing\> but yeah i'd expect that sort of treatment in the south
02:03 <ThunderSqueak> I was in North Dakota and Minnesota
02:10 <Nothing\> but i guess alaska is backwoods enough to expect that sort of treartment too, probably a lot of rough and tough redneck types up there
02:17 <ThunderSqueak> so, I KNOW how harsh those "friendly people" are
02:32 <Nothing\> my brother went to school in north dakota
02:37 <Nothing\> damned if i can remember where though
02:54 <Nothing\> jamestown?
03:30 <ThunderSqueak> I got that treatment in Minneapolis a lot
03:36 <ThunderSqueak> I know where jamestown is
03:38 <Nothing\> that's so sad
03:54 <ThunderSqueak> grew up not far from there
03:58 <Nothing\> in this day and age, you'd expect that sort of treatment wouldn't happen. at least not in the north
04:05 <ThunderSqueak> well, it does
04:10 <ThunderSqueak> hence the protests now
04:40 <Nothing\> yeah, i knew somebody who was MTF and she couldn't get proper medical help for it, so she just took it upon herself to take hormones on her on
04:44 <Nothing\> *own
04:52 <Nothing\> spironolactone and some other stuff
05:09 <ThunderSqueak> I have a friend who is mtf in North Dakota, she has a felony for the crime of babysitting
05:11 <Nothing\> they made her really moody and emotional, more than usual
05:18 <Nothing\> wtf
05:19 <ThunderSqueak> she worked at a daycare
05:24 <Nothing\> how did they manage that?
05:37 <ThunderSqueak> one of the parents "discovered" she was trans and they threw the book at her
05:46 <Nothing\> claim she abused the children by exposing them to her unconventional gender choices?
05:49 <ThunderSqueak> she did not do anything wrong other than be trans
06:07 <Nothing\> what were the official charges?
06:27 <Halcyon> What should I make for dinner?
06:27 <ThunderSqueak> sexual abuse or some shit
06:34 <Nothing\> i'm fortunate that i live in canada and those sorts of things are much more rare here, at least as far as i knew
06:44 <Nothing\> i'm not LGBT myself, so i can't say for sure
06:57 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, fcuk, so she had to register as a sex offender and all that?
06:58 <ThunderSqueak> Halcyon, a salad made with ayahuasca
07:04 <Nothing\> Halcyon, kraft dinner
07:05 <ThunderSqueak> Nothing\, yes
07:12 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, that's so awful
07:14 <Halcyon> Hah, I have people coming around
07:24 <Halcyon> WTF is Kraft dinner? Something from a box?
07:26 <Nothing\> Halcyon, kraft dinner with bacon
07:27 <ThunderSqueak> all because she worked for a daycare :/
07:28 * steve30 meows at halcyon's potential dinner
07:45 <ThunderSqueak> she did for years, no issues
07:47 <Nothing\> Halcyon, it's canadianese for macaroni and cheese from a box
07:55 <Halcyon> Sounds awful
07:58 <Nothing\> it is
08:00 <ThunderSqueak> it is aweful
08:06 <Halcyon> I'll pass I think :P
08:11 <ThunderSqueak> especially for us lactose intollerant types
08:21 <Halcyon> Is there any actual cheese in it?
08:24 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, that's okay, i don't think there's anything close to cheese in it
09:07 <ThunderSqueak> no, it has milk though, and butter
09:12 <ThunderSqueak> both give me major issues :/
09:31 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, i watched a video a while ago from this biology nerd who engineered a virus that would program cells in his GI tract to produce lactase and he temporarily cured his lactose intolerance
09:43 <Nothing\> i think the treatment was effective for a year or so and then gradually wore off
09:51 <Nothing\> it was really neat
10:04 <ThunderSqueak> I was unlucky enough to not get the genetics from my mom that lets me enjoy it (she is norwegian/irish)... dad was south american indigenous
10:28 <Nothing\> you know ThunderSqueak, lactose intolerant people are actually the normal ones
10:29 * steve30 wonders whether to risk going out for a walk
11:00 <ThunderSqueak> hmm https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality
11:04 <Nothing\> people who tolerate lactose can only do so due to a genetic mutation that allows them to continue producing lactase past the point when they need it to digest their mother's milk
11:18 <ThunderSqueak> I am aware
11:24 <Nothing\> well there ya go
11:41 <Nothing\> steve30, what's the risk?
11:52 <Nothing\> i love, or used to love going for midnight walks
12:03 <Nothing\> never once had a problem with it
12:21 <Nothing\> though i guess it depends where you live
12:52 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, would it be possible to move to a place that would be more accepting of your sexuality? like, i dunno, san francisco?
13:07 <ThunderSqueak> it isnt about sexuality
13:30 <Nothing\> well you know what i mean, i'm sure
13:34 <steve30> Nothing\, it might rain, and I don't like rain.
13:43 <ThunderSqueak> tbh, being trans is almost closer to an ethnicity than it is about sexual preference
13:49 <Nothing\> steve30, ah yeah i hate going for a walk and getting caught in the rain
13:54 <Nothing\> why not bring an umbrella
14:02 <ThunderSqueak> it is something you are, something others can see when they look at you
14:10 <steve30> Also I don't want to risk my hip hurting
14:18 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, interesting, i never really talked to the trans people i knew about it enough to get that point of view from them
14:36 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, okay that i can get
14:39 <ThunderSqueak> you can't hide it
14:44 <ThunderSqueak> it just is
14:55 <Nothing\> some people seem to hide it pretty well
14:59 <ThunderSqueak> some do
15:10 <Nothing\> but i imagine that would be incredibly unpleasant
15:13 <ThunderSqueak> I do sometimes
15:15 <Nothing\> not being able to be yourself
15:24 <Nothing\> even being afraid to be yourself
16:54 <Nothing\> have you ever talked to Ampera about this stuff before?
17:35 <Nothing\> i guess he's had quite a lot of problems with being... well i dunno that he's trans but part of him wants to be trans i guess, i can't really explain it well enough for him
17:38 <ThunderSqueak> yes, I have
17:44 <Nothing\> ah good stuff
17:50 <ThunderSqueak> in depth at times
17:51 <ThunderSqueak> anyway
18:07 <Nothing\> that's good, i hope it was productive for both of you
18:19 <ThunderSqueak> frustrating is more accurate :p
19:05 <Nothing\> i couldn't imagine how that must feel
19:41 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, I am just happy I am now at a job that I am open at, and my wife (also a trans native woman) is very loving :)
19:49 <Nothing\> the closest i can come is when i discovered masturbation and was admonished by my parents for it when i was caught and made to feel like a bad person, though not to an extreme extent
19:59 <ThunderSqueak> I work for a native owned company now
20:02 <Nothing\> oh that's great to hear
20:17 <Nothing\> i'm glad you've found a place where you're able to be yourself more comfortably
20:36 <ThunderSqueak> part of why alaska is actually nicer I think... at least if you are native
20:43 <Nothing\> and even more so that you've found an SO you can relate to
20:48 <ThunderSqueak> they were smart in how they handled things
21:26 <Nothing\> yeah i never thought of alaska as having a huge native population, but i guess it's no different from NWT, Yukon or Nunavut
21:36 <Nothing\> lots of innuit in those areas
21:40 <ThunderSqueak> yes
21:50 <ThunderSqueak> she is Tsimshian
21:53 <Nothing\> in fact, nunavut was basically an entire territory the government gave to the innuit
22:06 * ThunderSqueak is Shipibo
22:15 <Nothing\> i'm not sure exactly how that works though
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22:50 <Nothing\> i'm unfarmiliar with the different tribes/variations
23:10 <Nothing\> whatever the proper nomenclature is
24:16 <Nothing\> i haven't actually known a lot of people who are native, though i live like a 10 minute drive from one of the largest native reserves in canada/north america
24:28 <Nothing\> which is a six nations reserve
24:38 <Nothing\> so there are a lot of native people here
25:16 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
25:26 <Nothing\> i go there to get cheap gas and it's amazing how one house can practically be a mansion, while the house next to it is a dilapidated shithole
25:46 <Nothing\> and the only shops they have basicalyl are smoke shops, no franchises or anything like that
25:57 <Nothing\> smoke shops and gas stations
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26:38 <Nothing\> they even have their own police out there, i don't think our police have jurisdiction on the reserve
26:54 <ThunderSqueak> the reservations where I grew up were poverty stricken places
26:59 <Nothing\> and there are all sorts of signs talking about how drug dealers hurt the community
27:47 <Nothing\> yeah, that's the sense i get from this place, very impoverished. except for the people who own/run the smoke shops and tobacco processing plants. they're the ones with the mansions and large, beautiful properties
28:07 <Nothing\> no signs of power or running water, or garbage pick up
28:50 <Nothing\> they finally got a methadone clinic out there though, thank god
29:05 <Nothing\> if there's anywhere that needs one, it's that place
29:31 <Nothing\> i've seen so many people who have to take a taxi into town every day to get their dose at the methadone clinic(s) here
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29:57 <Nothing\> i dunno how the hell they afford it, must be at least $30 or $40 each way
30:11 <Nothing\> plus the $10 or so for the methadone itself
30:40 <Nothing\> i just realized, they don't even have a proper hospital or emergency services there
31:06 <Nothing\> they have a clinic in the one city, but afaik, that's about all the medical care they have access to on the reserve
32:06 <Nothing\> everything they need is basically here in town, so if they don't drive, they're screwed
33:45 <ThunderSqueak> I almost died as a kid because my appendix ruptured and I did not get medical care for a week
34:16 <ThunderSqueak> spent a year in the hospital because of that
34:20 <ThunderSqueak> I was 12
35:59 <Nothing\> aw fuck, that must have been excruciating
36:06 <Nothing\> i'm so sorry :/
36:22 <Nothing\> physically and psychologically
37:13 <Nothing\> things probably would have turned out worse if you weren't so young. kids tend to be more resilient when it comes to such things, it seems.
38:01 <Nothing\> i'm sure having to pay for your healthcare had a part to play in that as well
38:33 <ThunderSqueak> I am lucky it delayed puberty a bit
38:49 <Nothing\> how's that?
39:17 <ThunderSqueak> It went septic, and I was so sick it delayed puberty
39:24 <ThunderSqueak> back then there were no blockers given
39:57 <ThunderSqueak> you were just forced to suffer while your body changed in a living nightmare
41:06 <Nothing\> that's terrible
41:30 <Nothing\> i have the testosterone levels of an 80 year old woman because of the meds i'm on
42:19 <Nothing\> it really screws with my metabolism, got me diabetes and some sort of problems that's causing fluid to build up in my legs that i need to have looked into
42:47 <Nothing\> but on the bright side, i have almost no sex drive so, more time to focus on other things
43:15 <Nothing\> not to get into TMI, but i only have to masturbate maybe once or twice a month, if that. it's nice
43:40 <ThunderSqueak> heh
43:41 <Nothing\> and that's just cuz it gets painful if i don't
44:00 <steve30> I don't have much libido these days. I miss being horny regularly :/
45:18 <ThunderSqueak> heh, mine went up XD
47:37 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak
47:53 <ThunderSqueak> hi T3sl4 :>
49:47 <Nothing\> steve30, i don't miss it at all. I saw having a sex drive as a waste of time, focus and resources
50:10 <Nothing\> unless i planned on having another kid, which i most certainly do not
51:06 * ThunderSqueak enjoys having a sex drive.  It is probably nowhere near a guys though XD
51:11 <Nothing\> hell, i haven't even had sex in almost 13 years
51:24 * ThunderSqueak transitioned as a teen and is now in her 40's
51:25 <ThunderSqueak> so yeah
51:27 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, if you don't mind my asking, do you take hormones?
51:33 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, I am done
51:36 <T3sl4> man, people are such assholes
51:55 <ThunderSqueak> Nothing\, yes, required to live
51:57 <Nothing\> T3sl4, some can be, very much so
52:07 <T3sl4> well... at least we've got protests about it now?...
52:10 <ThunderSqueak> been declined hrt by Dr's too
52:14 <Nothing\> but as hard as it is, there are good people out there and you should focus on them more
52:41 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, yeah that's a real shame. so you're doing it on your own as well then, huh?
52:44 <T3sl4> ThunderSqueak, huh, does the body develop a dependency? or if that's an unrelated condition then nevermind
52:55 <Nothing\> like that person i knew who i mentioned earlier on spirono
53:05 <Nothing\> T3sl4, very much so
53:08 <ThunderSqueak> T3sl4, https://twitter.com/ThunderSqueakAK/status/1269102597585072128?s=20
53:18 <Nothing\> i was on testosterone injections for a while to deal with my low testosterone
53:26 <T3sl4> yeah i saw that above
53:35 <ThunderSqueak> actually, my body does not produce enough now
53:37 <T3sl4> hence my comment
53:38 <Nothing\> and after i stopped them, i basically became sterile as a result of the rebound/withdrawal/whatever you want to call it
53:52 <ThunderSqueak> so I have to take supliments, I think the having a VJJ has a lot to do with that XD
53:52 <Nothing\> and my testosterone levels are much lower than they were to begin with
54:22 <T3sl4> ah yeah, post op you've not even got suppressed testosterone, but basically none
54:42 <Nothing\> but i was on WAY WAY too much testerone
54:56 <T3sl4> any hair loss Nothing\?
54:58 <Nothing\> my levels were up almost twice normal levels when i was on it
55:14 <Nothing\> T3sl4, oddly, no, i didn't notice any extra hair or hair loss during or after
55:27 <Nothing\> and not much for my level of energy or mood either
55:38 <Nothing\> although i was obsessed with sex 24/7
55:43 <T3sl4> guess it was in the right ballpark then
55:47 <T3sl4> that aside :^)
55:52 <Nothing\> i'd get a raging erection just typing with my keyboard in my lap
56:15 <Nothing\> like, any little thing would trigger arousal
56:26 <T3sl4> it was like being 14 all over again
56:27 <Nothing\> even just seeing a sine wave, the resemblence to breasts would turn me on
56:49 <Nothing\> i think it was worse than being a teenager
57:17 <Nothing\> as a teenager, worst sorta thing i did was fap to that scene in ghostbusters 2 where sigourney weaver's giving the baby a bath and is in her bra
57:21 * ThunderSqueak was asexual as a teen
57:26 <T3sl4> reminds me, i once saw a waveform where the sine wave grew nipples
57:32 <T3sl4> you'd have probably jizzed in your pants with that
57:36 <Nothing\> i had low standards for fap fuel i guess
57:42 <Nothing\> haha T3sl4
58:06 <ThunderSqueak> I am just happy I have a wonderful wife now :)
58:14 <Nothing\> luckily i've never done that, though i've had a few wet dreams oddly enough if i don't masturbate frequently enough these days
58:29 <Nothing\> which i say is odd because i never had wet dreams as an adolescent
58:41 <T3sl4> it was a phase splitter circuit, and if one of the outputs connects to a load that starts clipping, the extra current drawn is reflected in the other half of the circuit as a peak rather than flattening out... hence, nipples :P
58:43 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, i'm really happy for you, both of you
58:54 <T3sl4> ^^
59:04 <Nothing\> haha T3sl4 that's awesome
59:09 <steve30> I was really horny as a teenager.
59:11 <steve30> I miss that.
59:12 <Nothing\> oscilloscope porn
59:13 <ThunderSqueak> funny thing, we met on OKcupid
59:21 * T3sl4 spanks steve30 on the hot pants
59:34 <Nothing\> steve30, i was too, i would masturbate several times a day and edge for hours on end sometimes
59:48 <Nothing\> i don't miss it, though
00:18 <Nothing\> the only partner i had regular sex with couldn't keep up with my libido so it was more frustrating than anything
00:18 <ThunderSqueak> I was like "I dont drink, my beliefs do not have me going to a church, I work from home... how am I supposed to meet someone..... lets try okcupid, what is the worst that might happen"
00:20 <steve30> tbh the only thing I miss about being a teenager is being horny all the time.
00:58 <Nothing\> steve30, i just miss the lack of responsibility and not having the problems i have now
01:12 <Nothing\> like my addiciton problems back then were nothing compared to what they are now
01:26 <Nothing\> i at least wasn't physically dependent on anything back then
01:35 * ThunderSqueak is an alcoholic
01:37 <Nothing\> and had yet to experience withdrawal
01:43 <ThunderSqueak> sober for over a year now
01:51 <Nothing\> nice! congrats!
02:03 <ThunderSqueak> wife says "native curse"
02:05 * T3sl4 hides what he's currently drinking, hugs ThunderSqueak again
02:13 <Nothing\> i've been on methadone for oh i dunno, over 5 years
02:19 <Nothing\> i'm not sure how long exactly
02:30 <Nothing\> but now i'm addicted to clonazepam as well
03:10 <Nothing\> anyways i think i'm gonna go find something to eat
03:22 <T3sl4> i made fried breaded catfish today :)
03:31 <Nothing\> it was nice talking with you ThunderSqueak, i wish you all the best
03:43 <T3sl4> nite Nothing\
03:44 <Nothing\> take care of yourself, and your SO
03:45 <ThunderSqueak> thanks
04:11 <Nothing\> you too T3sl4, and steve30 take care guys
04:14 <Nothing\> <3
04:28 <Nothing\> g'night
04:38 <Nothing\> o/
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05:32 <T3sl4> ThunderSqueak: yeah, enthicities that haven't lived with alcohol for a long time, tend to not have great tolerance for it..
06:21 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
08:12 <T3sl4> i've been playing this game quite a lot and the music is still running through my head a bit... it seems maybe relevant too https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hhKKiDfHnjs/maxresdefault.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/5d91ab2ec5478bcf57952ecce2ae3d87/70e511dd08047c59-7f/s640x960/13251503ed9e402fea7d003271f50a93774e7daa.jpg
08:14 <T3sl4> https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1170xauto/public/trans.jpg
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39:49 <Lemon> hello peeps
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26:35 * Halcyon meows at the room
26:45 <Lemon> :o
26:50 <Lemon> woof !
26:52 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon :P
26:57 <Lemon> waddup !
27:12 <Halcyon> Not much, just waiting for the dishwasher to finish
27:14 <Lemon> im close to getting back to bed, im so tired
27:16 <Halcyon> How about you?
27:24 <Lemon> ho im alrighty I guess
27:39 <Halcyon> That's good
28:36 <Lemon> I might start building my little barometer today
28:44 <Lemon> I laid everything on a little protoboard, its cute
28:54 <Lemon> no box this time it will be just a module laying around lol
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52:13 <Halcyon> Oh neat
52:21 <Halcyon> I should get a barometer for my place
22:20 * T3sl4 slicks Halcyon
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46:21 <steve30> hi Halcyon
09:28 * ThunderSqueak waves.
10:08 <steve30> o/
10:29 <ThunderSqueak> what is going on here?
10:48 <steve30> not alot :)
31:32 <ThunderSqueak> I should be sleeping XD
31:58 * steve30 wraps ThunderSqueak up in a duvet
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02:44 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
02:44 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
12:55 <steve30> hello EEVBlog
15:19 <steve30> hmm
20:40 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30
20:46 <Ysjoelfir> so what are you up to?
28:45 <Lord_of_nothing> re
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49:43 <steve30> Apparently Grandma has managed to cut out a massive chunk of the pyracantha in her front garden. It now looks a mess.
51:42 <Ysjoelfir> "great!"?
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03:14 <Lemon> hmmm I wonder if pressure/humidity sensors are meant to be use in a certain position/angle
03:27 <Lemon> I soldered the header on mine the other way it seems
03:35 <Lemon> to it will be facing the board
03:43 <Lemon> I prefer that as its being protected a bit
03:48 <Lemon> but idk if its an issue
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11:53 <Ysjoelfir> its not. it will detect the pressure and humidity exactly there
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12:05 <Lemon> alright thanks
12:20 <Lemon> I tried to desolder the header but thats impossible anyway xD
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39:02 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/a/sLwNYIk thiis will be the layout I think
55:57 <Lemon> damn I fear I made a mistake by going to vape again
00:30 <Ysjoelfir> why
00:49 <Lemon> because you know me and I know me too, everything turns quickly into a hobby :>
01:13 <Lemon> im already looking around for a new box, as mine will be a tad smaller than the tank xd
02:49 <DHess_US> That's what she said!
03:01 <Lemon> ayeeeeeee
10:03 <Ysjoelfir> XD
12:33 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir !!
12:42 <Ysjoelfir> thats me
12:43 <Lemon> I just found something in my bedroom ! a dripper
12:50 <Lemon> with a kit of diy coils, cotton etc
12:55 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) use it
12:57 <Lemon> I had totally forgot about this one
13:06 <Lemon> I think I used it once and gave up for some reasons x
13:14 <Lemon> well right now I have no liquid but I'll give it a try :>
13:26 <Lemon> its a Mutation X v5
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29:36 * Ysjoelfir is doing a Fedevel course and is always amused about robert feranec's way of talking :) That guy is gorgeous
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45:39 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir ho btw, theres a solartron 7150 for sale (5.5 digits, 6.5 digits with averaging but its slow)
45:46 <Lemon> gpib, decent accuracy
45:56 <Lemon> 100 euros delivered, around it
45:57 <Ysjoelfir> they tend to pop up from time to time
46:04 <Lemon> not in perfect state but its ok
46:13 <Lemon> im debating with myself
46:24 <Lemon> but I heard about their input filters exploding
46:25 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And BTW, due to Youtube's stupid schedule thing, I have to set the video to Private in order to schedule release it. And I don't have TubeBuddy Pro for my 2nd channel which allows that. Should probably pony up for that.
47:16 <rust_collector> mornings
47:23 <Lemon> hi rusty
48:01 <Lemon> I wonder if those, with age, can retain better uncertainties than stated
49:40 <rust_collector> better uncertainties......
50:09 <rust_collector> like, more uncertain than stated... I dunno
50:18 <Lemon> the other way around :>
50:37 <rust_collector> what is uncertain?
51:08 <Lemon> its DC accuracy for example, stated at 20 to 60ppm from 24h to 1year
51:23 <Ysjoelfir> yes, they used schaffner filters. stinky bastards. no big deal though, just replace them with a bog standard 5€ replacement
51:35 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
51:44 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/SOLATRON-Enertec-Schlumberger-7150-DMM-High-resolution-6-digit/333614872677?hash=item4dacfef865:g:3fsAAOSwOeFe1o-N
51:45 <Lemon> its this one
51:58 <Ysjoelfir> Yesterday Poelsch from the other EEVBlog IRC told me that there is a new variety of grandiosa?
52:43 <rust_collector> Lemon, that looks like a pile of crap. go find something else
52:53 <Lemon> ho its a french version, I just noticed
52:56 <Lemon> why that rusty WHY
53:09 <rust_collector> there are loads on grandiosas, but only one original
53:10 <Ysjoelfir> bah. franch. unusable
53:23 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir think its a good deal ?
53:29 <rust_collector> (that they quit making in 1988 or something)
53:38 <Ysjoelfir> rusty - yes, but whats the new one?
53:52 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - for that price its decent. been looking for one a long time to mod it.
54:03 <Lemon> mod it ? :o
54:06 <Ysjoelfir> sure
54:13 <Lemon> tellmemoreplease !
54:19 <rust_collector> you know, they have some with onion and shredded pig, one with meatballs...
54:28 <Ysjoelfir> the input connectors and the display on those are crap. you can improve it vastly by replacing those
54:38 <Lemon> ha yeah Iheard about that
54:43 <Lemon> well at least its backlit
54:46 <Ysjoelfir> shredded pig sounds great. I want some.
54:54 <Lemon> input connectors ? hmm I know peeps been putting shrouded stuff
57:22 <Lemon> but yeah im hesitating
57:31 <Lemon> I dont really need another DMM
57:32 <Lemon> but well
58:05 <Lemon> nah I dont need another DMM
58:11 <Ysjoelfir> https://imgflip.com/i/4474fp
59:46 <Lemon> ppffffffff
00:46 <Lemon> with 100 euros I could buy stuff I might need more, like resistors from Edwin to calibrate my DMMs
02:37 <Lemon> or various components kits
02:46 <Lemon> yeah lets be reasonnable for once
03:33 <Ysjoelfir> what?
03:41 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, who is this man? and what did he do to lemon?
04:38 <Lemon> heh I told you, I reached a nice state right now ! multiple power supplies, two 6.5 dmms, another 4.5 and soon a 4 channel DIY one, e-load, two scopes, an arb gen, two freq counters, GPSDO...
04:43 <Lemon> I miss some stuff tho
04:55 <Lemon> more voltage/resistor standards
05:00 <Lemon> an electrometer
05:11 <Lemon> a power analyzer :>
05:15 <Lemon> cool things that I dont have !
05:57 <Lemon> also need those freaking croco/grabbers/probe clips on xd
06:38 <Lemon> I also want to build nice low emf cables, pure copper without solder
06:46 <Lemon> like just screwing/crimping
07:01 <Ysjoelfir> lemon?
07:09 <Lemon> yeh
07:13 <Lemon> itsame
07:17 <Ysjoelfir> I hate to say that I am very proud of you. for real.
07:20 <Ysjoelfir> *have!
07:22 <Ysjoelfir> not hate XD
07:30 <Lemon> hmmm ok ? Xd
07:36 <Lemon> haha glad to hear it !
08:01 <Lemon> one of my big goals is to calibrate those two nice meters
08:12 <Lemon> the fluke is specced at 6ppm DCV on 24h
08:15 <Lemon> thats incredible
08:23 <Lemon> and im sure the 3456a can reach something like that too
09:09 <Ysjoelfir> yes. You remember that I told you that I gave much stuff already to other ones that pretended to be interested in electronics and so on. None of those ever came back to me and told me that they did something with it or that they were gratefull for the stuff I gave them. But you want to do stuff and already did some projects, which I find absolutely great, I enjoy watching how you grow your knowledge and tinker around, learn and develop :)
10:19 <Lemon> aww man ! and I'm really happy to have you, rusty, mamalala, and every other peep that teaches me valuable things ! :> your stuff greatly helped, and im babying it trust me :P
10:31 <Lemon> I want to walk in my father's steps !
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20:42 <Ysjoelfir> thats nice :)
22:17 <Lemon> hmm I should start building the barometer :> I found an attiny85 on breakboard, never used those !
22:51 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit that I never tried the tinies. I only used the megas. no idea why though
25:28 <Lemon> hmmm I hope I can still use two i2c devices with it
25:32 <Lemon> the oled and sensor
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> sure
29:32 <Lemon> im tempted to directly solder everthing
38:28 <Ysjoelfir> try it on a breadboard first
38:34 <Ysjoelfir> if you succeed, then solder it :)
38:42 <Ysjoelfir> beautiful breadboarding is an art, I like it
38:44 <Lemon> yeah thats true
12:50 <Lemon> I totally forgot if those little oled screen can take 5v
15:25 <Ysjoelfir> better be safe than sorry?
15:52 <rust_collector> ok, wifes dad and stepmom was here. that took some time
16:05 <Ysjoelfir> congratz to your survival!
18:14 <rust_collector> they had a falling out, so I have not seen them in a year and a half. I was ok with that
20:29 <Lemon> hmmm I think I simply connected that oled on the VCC from the leonardo, on the thermometer
20:32 <Lemon> so thats 5v
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42:37 <steve30> I should ring grandma
44:25 <rust_collector> good idea
44:28 <rust_collector> do that
53:51 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 a bell
55:05 <steve30> done
55:19 <steve30> i said i'll go and see her next week when its not raining
55:23 <rust_collector> ring ring...
55:33 <rust_collector> ring ring...
55:39 <rust_collector> nice
55:56 <rust_collector> grandmas are important
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