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00:02:21 <rust_collector> coffee??
00:02:39 <K> nein.
00:05:10 <rust_collector> so, i fucked up again
00:05:14 <rust_collector> again
00:05:35 <rust_collector> now I own an ex postal van
00:05:57 <Ysjoelfir> So you basically took your work home?
00:06:11 <rust_collector> I took it back, yes
00:06:36 <rust_collector> well, it is a van, not a truck, so it feels nice and sporty
00:06:46 <rust_collector> eeh, well, no, it doesn't
00:06:52 <rust_collector> it is a hiace
00:07:50 <Ysjoelfir> nice, I always liked those
00:08:02 <rust_collector> it had no problems doing 140, even with the slightly slipping clutch
00:08:17 <Ysjoelfir> (you have hiaces as post vans? oO I thought those are only somewhere down south popular)
00:09:13 <rust_collector> nah, we used to have them, from the 80's until 2005 or something, they stopped importing them, because they could not meet emissions stuff
00:10:36 <Ysjoelfir> "emissions".... I heard of that. isn't that this mysterious thing governments around the world try to force car makers to do to stop you from building great cars?
00:10:43 <rust_collector> so, now we have loads of everything. the pug partner /expert, sprinters, transits, renault trafic and master,
00:11:09 <rust_collector> that is the thing
00:12:11 <rust_collector> well, it does not seem to be very forceful, as a new truck pollute less than 5-6-7 new cars. it is interesting, that it is not so important to make the cars clean
00:12:43 <Ysjoelfir> but the fine dust from those bad diesels!!!11111one
00:13:19 <rust_collector> there is no dust to speak of after a truck, with a particle filter. the air is cleaner after you drive thru an area, than it was before
00:13:51 <rust_collector> sure, we tear up the road, and make other kinds of dust
00:14:21 <rust_collector> which is also interesting, because I still have not found a rutted road, that my truck would fit in
00:15:41 <K> pics or it didn't happen.
00:16:35 <Ysjoelfir> I know, but don't tell that those politicians :P Also, what K said
00:18:51 <rust_collector> LALALALALALALAAAALALAAAAA
00:20:52 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/e4V0Ogk
00:21:13 <rust_collector> you only get one, for now. and yes, I have started to cut it apart already
00:21:42 <Ysjoelfir> cute. I like those bubbly looking things
00:22:06 <K> those things on roof look rusted already
00:22:15 <rust_collector> it is pretty handy, if she who really bought it wants it, I will just keep it
00:22:15 <Ysjoelfir> remember who it belongs to now
00:22:43 <rust_collector> yes, it is not mine-mine. I will hopefully only own it for a few days
00:23:31 <rust_collector> what do you mean already? that thing should have been scrapped 10 years ago
00:26:02 <rust_collector> I do wonder why it has that white dot on the bumper
00:29:04 <rust_collector> the guy I bought it from was interesting. he could not take city life any more, and moved to a tiny cottage on some mountain. After a few years, he moved to his parents, until he found the place we were at, in the middle of nowhere, in the forest, where he was carcing figures out of wood, mostly with a chainsaw
00:29:52 <rust_collector> so he had a bunch of big wooden crows, and people, and random other figures around in the woods
00:31:19 <rust_collector> well, I have to go shred that van, and see what I am left with
00:31:29 <Ysjoelfir> thats cool. I would love to live in a cottage somewhere in a wood
00:31:40 <Ysjoelfir> xD have fun and remember the pics!
00:31:49 <Ysjoelfir> I'm off home now, too. cu later :)
00:31:54 <rust_collector> the one he was in now, was almost like a small house.
00:32:00 <rust_collector> laterz
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00:51:58 <Lemon> alright, lets solder shit !
00:53:58 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir you there m8 ?
00:54:14 <K> he went home
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01:08:13 * Ampera squeezes Lemon
01:08:19 <rust_collector> yaay! hooome
01:08:29 <rust_collector> you can hide weed in there
01:10:10 <rust_collector> hmm, wife is being easy today. I sent her to town to buy steel, a panel hammer, and an angle grinder.... "ok"
01:10:56 <Ampera> rust_collector, to change that ask her to pick up a glass hammer, a bucket of steam, and some blinker fluid while she's at it
01:11:23 <rust_collector> well, I do not need those
01:11:29 <Ampera> darn.
01:11:38 <rust_collector> and I am worried she would find that in some random store
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01:12:13 <Ampera> hahaha
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01:12:29 <K> a risk she'll bring home a 50 ton steam hammer
01:13:06 <rust_collector> that would not be a problem. I would love having one
01:13:26 <Ampera> would you love paying for one?
01:13:27 <rust_collector> i think even mom would approve that
01:13:49 <rust_collector> steam hammers are things you get for scrap weight
01:14:16 <rust_collector> I could hook it up to an old alarm clock. that would be efficient
01:15:31 <rust_collector> IT IS 6!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
01:15:33 <K> crack some nuts
01:16:35 <Ampera> I've been in the nutcracker before
01:16:46 <Ampera> might explain my androgynous nature.
01:17:07 <Ampera> Twice actually, once as a gingerbread boy, and once as a party boy.
01:30:16 <K> not much of a boy after that, eh
01:30:40 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/dvmZdib.jpg
01:31:22 <K> does this qualify as 'dad-joke'?
01:32:40 <DHess_US> Oh, wow. That's a good one.
01:32:46 <DHess_US> Stealing that.
01:36:26 <hsn> Ampera
01:36:40 <Ampera> hsn,
01:36:43 <hsn> hi
01:36:57 <hsn> the bot, is it znc module ?
01:37:03 <Ampera> EEVBot?
01:37:06 <hsn> yes
01:37:08 <Ampera> No it's a Java application running on my server
01:37:18 <Ampera> it's completely separate to the ZNC
01:37:26 <Ampera> that being said, making the bot a ZNC module is not a bad idea
01:37:50 <hsn> i guess .. what znc modules are made from c++ also ?
01:38:26 <Ampera> No clue, I've never made one
01:38:42 <Ampera> but presumably there's some headers or something for it
01:38:53 <hsn> modpython
01:38:53 <hsn> Allows you to use modules written on Python.
01:38:58 <Ampera> and since ZNC is written in C++ presumably yeah
01:39:03 <Ampera> blech, python
01:39:15 <hsn> modperl
01:39:15 <hsn> Loads Perl scripts as ZNC modules.
01:39:26 <Ampera> don't think I've used Perl proper
01:39:32 <Ampera> at least not in a long time
01:39:53 <hsn> https://wiki.znc.in/Modpython
01:40:01 <hsn> i never did
01:40:09 <hsn> so im longer than u
01:41:02 <K> pics or it didn't happen!
01:41:14 * Ampera sends K pictures of his pearls
01:42:29 <K> oh deary me
01:43:42 * hsn = Ampera++;
01:44:13 <hsn> wait no thats wrong ..
01:44:19 * hsn = Ampera+1;
01:44:27 <Ampera> &hsn = 0
01:44:40 <Ampera> now begone, null pointer boy
01:45:03 <K> i did !write/!read bot in rust
01:45:21 <K> rust is nice.
01:45:24 * Ampera throws K's bot at rust_collector
01:45:29 <Ampera> I'll stick to C and C++
01:45:32 <Ampera> and Java when I'm lazy
01:48:41 <K> java is nice too.
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03:03:28 <Ysjoelfir> So, hsn is now gone and we have more amperas than before? also, T3sl4, I like that Tom-om pic :D and I like the bouncer thing.
03:10:06 <Ysjoelfir> so, is that resistor sorting Lemon guy still here?
03:18:35 <T3sl4> Lots of floofs https://imgur.com/gallery/Vb1riVy
03:20:12 <hsn> ysjoelfir , more ampera than before? bcz im not borring him with my disconnects? 😁
03:20:35 <Ampera> wha?
03:20:39 <Ampera> I am confused
03:20:42 <Ampera> stop confusing me or I get banny
03:21:05 <hsn> t3sl4 r these ur pets?
03:21:10 <T3sl4> no
03:21:24 <hsn> u r flloofy
03:22:00 <hsn> ampera, im also confused
03:22:06 * T3sl4 floofs Ampera
03:22:13 <Ampera> hsn, isn't being confused illegal in your country?
03:22:25 * Ampera is thusly floofed
03:23:56 <hsn> ampera, being confused it typical behaviour here as nothing make sense .. but in certain things its illegal
03:24:43 <hsn> for example u cant be confused about how "so good" , "generous" the royal family is
03:25:05 <Ampera> yeah but can you be confused as to where you want to stick your instrument?
03:25:25 <hsn> not really ..
03:25:26 <Ampera> if you catch my cold
03:25:28 <Ampera> neat
03:25:28 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera / hsn - I was refering to... wait
03:25:41 <Ysjoelfir> [17:43:41] * hsn = Ampera++;
03:25:42 <Ysjoelfir> [17:44:12] wait no thats wrong ..
03:25:42 <Ysjoelfir> [17:44:17] * hsn = Ampera+1;
03:25:42 <Ysjoelfir> [17:44:26] <Ampera> &hsn = 0
03:25:42 <Ysjoelfir> [17:44:39] now begone, null pointer boy
03:25:44 * Ampera throws a sweet italian sausage at Ysjoelfir
03:25:54 * T3sl4 dereferences Ampera, causing a crash
03:25:54 <Ampera> oh
03:26:03 <Ysjoelfir> SWEET sausages? wtf is that supposed to be :D
03:26:08 <Ampera> they taste sweet
03:26:18 <Ysjoelfir> who could have guessed?=
03:26:20 <Ampera> they actually do, at least these, but in general it's as opposed to spicy
03:26:34 <Ysjoelfir> oh, ok. thats better :D
03:28:12 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I went to a more upmarket store than I normally go to (in other words, not Aldi), so I ended up paying 5USD/lb for sausage
03:28:20 <Ampera> which is insanely expensive, but these are fucking stellar sausages
03:28:41 <Ampera> for contrast I usually pay around 3 USD for 1.3lbs of frozen sausages at Aldi
03:28:56 <Ampera> and I can have bratwurst, beer bratwurst, hot, and sweet italian sausages
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03:29:21 <hsn> ysjoelfir,, some where i copied a pointer of my self .. just in case ..
03:29:40 <Ysjoelfir_> thats good hsn
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03:41:37 <rust_collector> I think I have to stop doing things, because I almost feel productive-ish
03:44:32 <Ysjoelfir> eww!
03:45:18 <rust_collector> yes
03:46:32 <rust_collector> well, s-wmb-so says I am colorblind... but... now I know she is as well
03:48:00 <rust_collector> so, wife came back with a panel hammer, the wrong grinder, and ultra-bright red paint, and a sheet of steel
03:48:08 <rust_collector> I guess it is close enough
03:52:31 <Ysjoelfir> XD
03:53:09 <rust_collector> so, they were out of 0.7mm sheets.... I do not like that
03:53:34 <Ysjoelfir> thats because corona
03:53:39 <rust_collector> probably
03:53:40 <Ysjoelfir> people start building reinforced walls
03:53:54 <rust_collector> well, then why did they have 0.9?
03:54:02 <rust_collector> (one sheet)
03:54:25 <rust_collector> they did have a lot of 2mm. which would be too much like a workout
03:55:45 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... better to have multiple layers of thin sheets than one thick one! ask opel! nothing better than puff pastry steel!
03:56:34 <rust_collector> oh, you mean mercedes 123?
03:56:49 <Ysjoelfir> did they do that there, too?
03:56:57 <rust_collector> 4 layers
03:57:05 <Ysjoelfir> eww o.o
03:57:52 <rust_collector> the difference is that opel probably did use puff pastry for the inner layers
04:07:07 <Ysjoelfir> xD
04:53:05 <T3sl4> merce deez nutz
05:18:37 * hsn scratches rusty layers
05:35:06 <rust_collector> mmmmmmm
06:07:34 <rust_collector> ok, enough cut&paste stuff in the van for today.
06:07:44 <Ysjoelfir> so, what did you do to it?
06:07:52 <Ysjoelfir> is it now a coffee racer?
06:32:40 <rust_collector> yep
06:32:48 <rust_collector> with swimmingpool
06:33:01 <rust_collector> inflatable palm tree and all
06:34:32 <rust_collector> I cut out the crusty bit behind the rear wheel, and wheel arch, and made most of the inner arch piece, so tomorrow is mostly the outer skin, and a bit at the back, behind the bumper
06:34:48 <rust_collector> then... do it all over, on the other side
06:35:12 <Ysjoelfir> yaaay!
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06:36:13 <rust_collector> but, that, a piece at the bottom of the b pillar, and maybe the door, if I want to, and that looks like all the rusty stuff.
06:36:51 <rust_collector> then, it needs a clutch, and... it should be ready for its test
06:37:04 <rust_collector> oh, maybe adjust the rear brakes
06:37:21 <rust_collector> they are probably fine, but they grab waaay down
06:39:58 <Ysjoelfir> and for whom is that thing actually? you said you didn't get it for yourself but for someone?
06:40:33 <rust_collector> it is for wifes friend. it is a little bit complicated
06:42:09 <rust_collector> she left this guy, but guy does not leave her alone, and now she wants to move down here, but she needs a working car, because guy keeps buying cars, then not fixing simple things, so she can not leave, and... stuff. they live on an island waaaay up north
06:44:36 <rust_collector> so, today, we bought this thing, he got upset, she left again, he threatened to go to the police, because it was his money, then she threatened to tell the "nav" social service people that he already stole her car, and also the money blahblah... I bet they have a funny relationship
06:45:29 <rust_collector> but... it is ok, if she ends up not wanting it, I can keep it
06:47:11 <rust_collector> I do sort of like it, even if it is that quirky 4wd model
06:48:41 <rust_collector> and, just for fun, i wiped off 1/4 of the door, and a square on the rear side, and it will polish up ok-ish
06:49:37 <rust_collector> "boat cleaner" i am not sure where I got that, but it does seem to work ok
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06:50:40 <Ysjoelfir> yikes. that sounds.... "great" :S
06:51:03 <rust_collector> oh yes
06:52:05 <rust_collector> well, the thing is that she has been looking at a million vans, for a few months now. so today we just went and got this one. she just has to deal with it, lol
06:55:40 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=178669578
06:58:35 <Ysjoelfir> that thing actually looks pretty ok-ish?
06:58:48 <Ysjoelfir> I'm curious what you will do with it :)
06:58:57 <rust_collector> yeah, it is not really bad
06:59:30 <rust_collector> well, I will put metal where the holes are, and... get it tested... and.. whatever
07:00:19 <rust_collector> I do have a feeling I will do an egr delete on it, cleaning the egr does not look fun in there
07:00:54 <Ysjoelfir> when I was in norgi I got the impression that the regulations for cars are way less strict than they are here, could that be the case?
07:00:57 <Ysjoelfir> *norge
07:01:15 <rust_collector> uuuh... well... sort of kinda
07:02:21 <rust_collector> it is much easier to get a 745 with a turbocharged ls approved, than it would be down there
07:03:33 <rust_collector> or a blown smallblock chevy in an early 70s kadett
07:05:05 <rust_collector> I am still waiting for the tesla swapped nissan micra and that sort of thing
07:05:37 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
07:06:09 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, you wouldn't even think about eg. building an exhaust yourself... won't happen. and is pretty expensive if you get caught
07:06:26 <rust_collector> yeah, that is just stupid
07:07:35 <rust_collector> just flood them with documentation, on the 4" pipe you found in a refinery or something.
07:08:09 <Ysjoelfir> I have a 1:1 replication stainless exhaust under my volvo. the inspection guy was like "but thats not orijinaaaaaaal!" - "well, what do you prefer? an original one that is dead in half a year or a identical replication in rust free steel?" - "but there is no number stamped in it, I can't even check it, it could be way to loud or the environmental parameters could be worse!" - "with a original catalytic converter, lambda regulation and
07:08:10 <Ysjoelfir> electronic exhaust analysis?" - "YES!" ....
07:08:24 <Ysjoelfir> had to go through 3 inspections until one accepted it ._.
07:08:55 <rust_collector> good, because stainless does sound different
07:09:06 <Ysjoelfir> sure. but not louder
07:09:29 <Ysjoelfir> its actually more silent than my old one where the end tube fell off, taking all the wool from the rear silencer with it...
07:10:06 <rust_collector> go for the japan style, with pipes like a peacock out the back
07:10:57 <rust_collector> or, leave the original in, plug both ends with plastic plugs, and run the exhaust out of a hole in the hood
07:11:27 <rust_collector> it will last ok
07:11:27 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:12:25 <Ysjoelfir> I actually would like one of those... you know, the style of exhaust an old long nose truck has. two big pipes with the silencers half way up, surrounded by a heatshield, and that funny flapping weather protection caps on the top
07:14:24 <rust_collector> uhm, ok
07:15:09 <rust_collector> we do call the volvos tractors, but.. I think going for the flapper things is a bit much
07:15:18 <Ysjoelfir> XD
07:15:26 <rust_collector> they do make nice noise at idle
07:15:55 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of tractors... I would love to have a lanz bulldog one day. the variety that can go like ultra low idle.
07:15:58 <rust_collector> like a bucket of bolts in a clothes dryer
07:16:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol
07:16:25 <rust_collector> heh, yes. but you have to get up early, to heat it up
07:16:32 <Ysjoelfir> yeah
07:16:52 <rust_collector> why not go all the way, and get a steam tractor?
07:17:29 <Ysjoelfir> that would also be pretty cool. or one of those steam trucks. but I think a Bulldog is a good mix between "actually usefull" and "just cool"
07:17:43 <rust_collector> eh. ok
07:18:00 <Ysjoelfir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_wagon#/media/File:Super_sentinel_waggon_DX_9048.JPG
07:18:05 <Ysjoelfir> that would be a funny thing
07:18:23 <rust_collector> well, I would hate to get that thing tested in germany
07:18:29 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:18:43 <rust_collector> but, it does run pretty good
07:18:45 <Ysjoelfir> I'm pretty sure the engineers would be happy to see such a thing once in a lifetime
07:18:55 <rust_collector> sure
07:20:01 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: the super sentinel is a fun machine to play with. My father's first job was modifying those for special applications
07:20:31 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) I love old stuff like that
07:21:34 <rust_collector> do you think swmbo would enjoy throwing coal in the fire, on your vacation trips?
07:21:47 <Ysjoelfir> I'm very sure she won't
07:22:00 <rust_collector> ok, so she would be driving then?
07:22:09 <Ysjoelfir> nope, doens't have a licence
07:22:30 <rust_collector> are you sure there is a license that cover that thing in germanistan?
07:22:52 <Ysjoelfir> in germanistan there is a license for EVERYTHING
07:23:05 <rust_collector> I mean... laws and rules, they are fun.
07:23:29 <Ysjoelfir> yep, there would be one actualls
07:23:33 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: are there lots of steam engine events in .de?
07:24:06 <Ysjoelfir> it would be either class L or class T. "pulling machine with speeds up to 40 km/h (L) or 60 km/h (T).
07:24:19 <Ysjoelfir> coppice - I haven't seen one in person ever. so... I don't think so
07:24:36 <rust_collector> I remember asking if we could haul explosives with a mule and waggon. and he did not see a problem with that, but the law says it has to be diesel powered, so they had to make a note in the book
07:24:47 <rust_collector> someone got a lot of work out of that
07:24:51 <Ysjoelfir> XD
07:25:08 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: in the summer in the UK there are lots of them. You will see numerous steam trunks, and many traction engines of various sizes
07:25:16 <coppice> steam trucks
07:25:52 <rust_collector> but that thing has a load bed, it is not a tractor
07:26:09 <Ysjoelfir> good to know, we actually want to go on vacation somewhere this year, either UK or northern germany. depending on which of our friends wants to tag along.
07:26:21 <Ysjoelfir> rusty - thats no problem. its not only for tractors.
07:26:29 <rust_collector> I know they register things as "road locomotive" in england.
07:26:56 <coppice> That picture is a steam truck. They were common until the late 1930s, and then faded away as high torque diesels took over
07:26:57 <Ysjoelfir> its also for "self driving work machines" with the same speeds.
07:27:45 <rust_collector> yes, but that is a truck, not a crane or anything else
07:28:32 <coppice> A road locomotive is a traction engine like http://eastanglianlife.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Empres.jpg . Those were used for many things, like farm work, and pulling freight trucks along roads
07:29:13 <rust_collector> I just noticed a lot of the old zil 131 russian army trucks get registered as that, for some reason
07:29:59 <rust_collector> well, good night
07:30:26 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 rusty :)
07:31:36 <rust_collector> you should go to england, and look (and listen) at the old gardner diesels. they are just pretty things
07:34:55 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PpuNENmmBU right now I enjoy this thing xD
07:41:14 <Ysjoelfir> I'm off to bed. gn8 all
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09:45:17 <Halcyon> Morning everyone
09:47:04 <photonmagic> hello there
09:47:10 <Halcyon> Hey photonmagic
09:47:22 <photonmagic> almost 8pm where im frpm =]
09:47:33 <Halcyon> Ah, where is that?
09:47:38 <photonmagic> puerto rico
09:47:41 <Halcyon> Oh nice
09:47:56 <photonmagic> ty =] altho today its hot/humid
09:48:14 <Halcyon> It's winter here (in Sydney). I can't wait for Summer
09:48:29 <photonmagic> ah, i love autralia
09:48:43 <photonmagic> u guys have lots of nice things in your country
09:49:05 <photonmagic> australia*
09:49:09 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm pretty lucky to live here. Although I feel people are getting dumber and dumber.
09:49:22 <Halcyon> The panic-buying of toilet paper has started again... for no reason at all.
09:49:28 <photonmagic> that is everywhere man
09:49:52 <Halcyon> It's insane. They saw a small handful of cases in a very small area and all of a sudden people go stupid.
09:50:09 <photonmagic> i still dont understand the toilet paper deal
09:50:21 <Halcyon> No, I don't get it either. Do they plan to eat it or.... ?
09:50:44 <photonmagic> i dunno! lol its not like getting corona makes u sh*t lol
09:51:18 <Halcyon> Even if it did, can people honestly not think of another way to clean their own ass? I mean, toilet paper in itself is only a stop-gap... you still have to wash.
09:51:45 <photonmagic> indeed, its one odd thing ppl are doing for sure
09:52:05 <photonmagic> and the price gouging on everything is WOW
09:52:49 <Halcyon> We haven't seen that here
09:52:57 <Halcyon> Everything is priced the same as it always was
09:54:10 <photonmagic> hmm , ive been trying to look for parts after a recent psu failure an everything seems almost double
09:54:39 <photonmagic> mobo - 31$ , used to be 15
09:55:17 <photonmagic> power supply, i had a 750corsair modular i got for 50, now for the same 50 i was able to find a thermaltake 500w
09:57:56 <Halcyon> Bugger
09:59:31 <photonmagic> hey, do you know mosfets well?
10:00:14 <Halcyon> To be honest, I'm not an EE, so probably can't help you. There are a bunch of guys here who are very good. coppice, T3sl4, MrMobodies for example.
10:00:52 <photonmagic> ah cool no worries, im a beginer myself but i always have questions and noone to talk to lol
10:01:12 <Halcyon> Well this is a good place to hang out.
10:01:42 <photonmagic> glad to be here =D
10:02:14 <photonmagic> in my parts nones really into EE
10:03:00 <Halcyon> Do you participate in the EEVblog forum as well?
10:03:39 <photonmagic> going to sign up now, i made it here from my youtube surfing
10:04:27 <Halcyon> Ah nice. You might find the conversation here pretty quiet depending on the time of day. Many people are sleeping at the moment. But the forum is usually always pretty active.
10:07:20 <photonmagic> i see, do you know if the activation email takes a couple of hrs?
10:07:31 <photonmagic> i dont seem to get it
10:07:44 <Halcyon> It *shouldn't* take longer than a few minutes, but let me know if it doesn't come through soon and I'll look into it
10:07:58 <photonmagic> cool thank you =]
10:10:50 <photonmagic> no email yet =\
10:10:59 <Halcyon> Hrmm... let me ask Dave
10:11:10 <photonmagic> cheers
10:11:20 <Halcyon> I know we changed things around a bit because a lot of trolls were signing up with multiple accounts.
10:13:38 <photonmagic> i filled up correctly but i havent received email yet
10:15:01 <Halcyon> Yeh I think it's a manual process from our end now, I haven't really kept up to day with the changes. I should have a response shortly. In the mean time, I have to go our for about an hour. Hopefully it will have resolved itself by then, otherwise I'll be back soon. Need to go get a chip in my windscreen repaired.
10:15:10 <Halcyon> *up to date
10:16:09 <photonmagic> no problems
10:16:18 <photonmagic> take care for now and very nice to meet ya =]
10:17:54 <Halcyon> Likewise, hope you stick around
10:33:25 <steve30> hi
10:43:08 <photonmagic> hello
11:26:38 * steve30 pokes Halcyon
13:07:08 <Halcyon> :)
13:07:18 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
13:10:38 <Halcyon> I'm baking Jerry some muffins today :)
13:25:18 <Halcyon> These: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwXpSjyWndY
13:25:48 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
13:25:54 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
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13:30:11 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to go bake muffins for my birb
13:30:12 <Halcyon> Back soon
13:30:52 <Guest|24479> hello folks. anybody had work with thermal Camera SEEK and Raspberry pi ?
13:30:53 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Guest|24479!
13:31:10 <T3sl4> that sounds good actually, some baking powder and flour to give a softer texture i think, would be nice
13:31:30 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm going to throw some corn flour in
13:31:59 <T3sl4> Guest|24479: dunno
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13:35:45 <Halcyon> photonmagic: How did you go with your forum thing?
14:17:30 <Halcyon> Muffins are baking :)
14:22:42 <hsn> https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-admits-theres-a-serious-problem-with-windows-10
14:23:09 <Halcyon> Windows who? :P
14:23:30 <Halcyon> I fucking hate Windows 10, it's horrible. Every week I have some sort of weird and random problem with it
14:24:52 <hsn> halcyon
14:24:57 <Halcyon> hsn
14:25:09 <hsn> ur problem root is the hate
14:25:18 <hsn> :P
14:25:22 <Halcyon> My hate developed from using Windows 10
14:25:51 <hsn> its a paradigm
14:25:56 <Halcyon> I actually grew up with Windows and my previous jobs were mostly building and administering Windows servers and environments
14:26:23 <hsn> is this right word? paradigm?
14:26:34 <Halcyon> Windows 7 was great. It was stable, it worked and it wasn't full of bullshit.
14:26:53 <Halcyon> Windows 10 is just a dumbed down, retarded version of what Windows used to be, it's worse than Windows ME or Vista ever was.
14:27:55 <hsn> i think, win 10 is when microsoft tried to clean up their shit and do good kernel design ..
14:29:14 <Halcyon> Perhaps, but I can't help but think they are also appealing to the lowest common denominator of users. Even the language has change from professional concise English to shit like "Apps" and "We're working on it..." instead of "Loading, please wait"
14:29:35 <Halcyon> I'm surprised the BSODs don't say "Soz, something bad happened. KTHXBYE"
14:30:59 <hsn> that language i thought is good in branding ..
14:32:52 <Halcyon> I absolutely hate it. I feel as though it's just another step in dumbing down language in general.
14:33:23 <photonmagic> activation email still lost =\
14:34:46 <Halcyon> photonmagic, check your PMs
14:35:00 * hsn shooots beta particle at photonmagic
14:35:33 <photonmagic> ⓘ [477] Halcyon, You need a registered nickname to message this user
14:35:34 <photonmagic> ⓘ [477] Halcyon, You need a registered nickname to message this user
14:35:34 <photonmagic> Halcyon, You need a registered nickname to message this user
14:35:55 <Halcyon> Oh, standby...
14:35:59 <hsn> will then register
14:39:36 <hsn> ok dont pm and leave me alone guys :(
14:39:55 <Halcyon> :P
14:39:58 <Halcyon> Love you hsn
14:40:03 <hsn> haha
14:40:06 <hsn> :9
14:40:11 <hsn> thx me too
14:40:29 <hsn> see u
14:40:46 <photonmagic> c u hsn
14:41:24 <Halcyon> photonmagic, he is being facetious
14:42:02 <photonmagic> lol he'll be ok =]
14:42:32 <Halcyon> I'm just trying to disable the thing that lets you PM me
14:43:41 <photonmagic> good luck =D
14:44:31 <photonmagic> We have sent a confirmation code to the email address you have provided. <-- waiting on this one too
14:44:49 <photonmagic> funny nickop
14:46:31 <Halcyon> photonmagic, try and PM me now
14:47:35 <photonmagic> i did , didnt get the nickop msg
15:31:54 <steve30> Hi Halcyon. I've just been out showing off my cycling shorts.
15:32:09 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
15:33:52 <steve30> hmm, my Asterisk server has been up 9 days without crashing :)
15:34:11 <Halcyon> YAY
15:34:56 <steve30> re Win 10, I laugh at the BSOD that says "We're just gathering some information, then we'll restart for you"
15:36:05 <Halcyon> Yeh, as if the OS is doing the user a favour
15:36:37 <steve30> I preferred it when things performed illegal operations :)
15:36:46 <Halcyon> Exactly
15:36:53 <Halcyon> and "will be shutdown"
15:37:05 <Halcyon> None of this ASCII frowny face bullshit
15:38:22 <steve30> I assume in your profession, you could just arrest it if it performed an illegal operation.
15:38:30 <Halcyon> :P
15:41:49 * steve30 should get a sausage sandwich
15:44:47 <Halcyon> Yum
15:53:11 <Halcyon> Steve: I'm watching a video on British decimalisation
15:53:20 <Halcyon> It's interesting
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16:00:26 <Ysjoelfir> morning steve30 and Halcyon
16:00:33 <Ysjoelfir> and everyone who might be here
16:00:41 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
16:00:56 <Ysjoelfir> I agree with you, I hate the language they use in win10
16:01:02 <Halcyon> \o/
16:01:04 <Halcyon> Because it's stupid
16:02:07 <Ysjoelfir> also I hate the recent update where they were like "Heeeeeey Buddy, we have this amazing new feature just for you, its called Edge Chrome! Oh you don't want that? Well, try to close the freakin window, which you can't! You have to kill the task manually if you don't want to send us any data what you think about this shitty browser!"
16:06:11 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rOzF3QpJcw
16:06:17 <Halcyon> What a cranky old bat
16:10:51 <Ysjoelfir> xD
16:11:54 <Ysjoelfir> Yesterday I created a documentation for our production departmenr. I once again hat do much trust in the availability of the resource "brain" in that departmenr
16:12:01 <Ysjoelfir> *too much
16:14:42 <Ysjoelfir> god damn, whats wrong with my fingers... I think you get what I meant to type :X
16:16:24 <Halcyon> :P
16:22:00 <steve30> I never really understood pounds/shillings/pence.
16:22:06 <steve30> Not that I ever needed to.
16:22:45 <steve30> I know there are 240d in a pound
16:23:05 <Ysjoelfir> I mean.... If I show you a picture with rectangles with names in it... and tell you that the exact same component layout is on that board three times, each besides the other, clearly separated by thick lines of silkscreen... yould you ask me several times if that component should realy be in the same place as in the example?
16:23:28 <Ysjoelfir> oh you english people with your strange currency :P
16:23:39 <Halcyon> :P
16:23:40 <Ysjoelfir> atomic shrimp made a nice video about that topic
16:23:46 <Halcyon> I love Atomic Shrimp
16:23:53 <Halcyon> Particularly his weird foods videos
16:24:10 <Ysjoelfir> I actually enjoy most of his videos. very rate for me to find one that I don't enjoy
16:27:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: World of Engineering: Carl Sagan explains how the ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round and calculated its circumference over 2,000 years ago. https://t.co/8b4w59nruL
16:29:18 <steve30> I need a coffee
16:29:31 * Ysjoelfir offers steve30 some of his Yuzu Tea
17:17:29 <Halcyon> I might go have a shower
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17:57:45 * Halcyon licks steve30
17:58:01 <steve30> tasty?
17:58:09 <Halcyon> Like chicken
17:58:22 <Ysjoelfir> So steve30 is a Birb
17:58:35 <Halcyon> Seems that way
17:58:41 <steve30> I was just watching a documentary about gayness. Apparently Hebden Bridge is the lesbian capital of the country.
17:58:52 <Halcyon> Never heard of it
17:58:57 <Halcyon> Lesbians that is ;-)
17:59:08 * Ysjoelfir likes those
17:59:41 <Halcyon> birbs?
17:59:53 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIy_gWIFXiM
18:00:04 <Ysjoelfir> No, Lesbians. But birbs are also cute
18:02:20 <steve30> hmm, Vivaldi seems to have deleted all my cookies
18:02:56 * Ysjoelfir gets into the kitchen to bake new cookies for steve30
18:03:06 <Halcyon> Yum
18:03:10 <steve30> mmm
18:07:18 <Halcyon> I might go watch a movie
18:07:31 <Ysjoelfir> have fun :)
18:08:07 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon
18:08:35 <Halcyon> You boys want to join me? I can stream via discord
18:09:03 <steve30> nah, i'll just curl up and purr
18:09:14 <Halcyon> :)
18:11:38 <steve30> i should order some electronic stuff from cpc
18:21:53 <Ysjoelfir> If I would be allowed to install discorc on my works PC I would join, even though I don't like movies. But its better than working :P
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19:01:24 <K> hello
19:02:14 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
19:05:25 <Halcyon> I just did the kitchen with music. So good :)
19:34:21 <steve30> I want to go and snuggle up in bed
19:48:12 * Ysjoelfir puts a nice beer onto Halcyon 's counter to approove of his great work and adds a big basket under his workdesk for steve30 to snuggle up in.
19:49:40 <K> are you calling steve30 big-boned?
19:55:24 * Ysjoelfir bones steve30.... wait, what? :D
19:55:38 <Halcyon> :P
19:55:54 <Halcyon> Although seriously, Steve does have a large penis
19:55:56 <K> as in "he is not fat, he's just big-boned", hence the BIG basket
19:56:24 <Ysjoelfir> I can't provide evidence for that, Halcyon xD
19:56:30 <Halcyon> :P
19:56:42 <Ysjoelfir> K - reminds me on that scene from ice age :D I'm not fat, thats only my fluffy fur!
20:04:46 <steve30> well, i need room to move around in said basket
20:06:06 <steve30> I just cleaned the bathroom. I should try and do the hoovering soon
20:14:11 * steve30 curls up in the basket
20:14:44 * Ampera hugs at Halcyon
20:15:03 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :) Good morning
20:15:11 <Ampera> how are you Halcyon
20:15:22 <Halcyon> I'm good, about to start dinner
20:15:32 <Halcyon> How are you friend?
20:15:52 <steve30> I'd pounce over to the dinner, but i'm tired
20:16:31 <Ampera> buh
20:16:37 * Halcyon licks Ampera
20:16:42 <Ampera> steve30, how can you have dinner, it's 11 there
20:17:03 <steve30> well, i just got some food out
20:26:05 <Ampera> blech it's finally the end of the week today
20:26:13 <Ampera> I just need to survive one more day of work
20:28:25 <K> i tought you liked the work you do
20:31:54 <Ampera> K, I also like sleeping
20:33:45 <K> weak.
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20:57:53 * Ysjoelfir is nibbling on his cheap ready to eat sandwich
20:58:06 * Ysjoelfir nibbles on amperas finger to see if that tastes better
21:24:20 * Ysjoelfir decided for baby carrots
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21:25:03 <Lemon> waddup
21:26:38 <Ysjoelfir> hey Lemon
21:26:45 <Ysjoelfir> Brunhilde arrived yesterday!
21:26:46 <Lemon> yo yo !
21:26:56 <Lemon> haaaaa nice ! you like it ? :>
21:27:10 <Lemon> im getting a new rig !
21:27:33 <Lemon> https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/33057547666.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.188078f2iIUXSq&algo_pvid=d96587e8-7d54-47f8-b1c5-b8a7a6f8fcec&algo_expid=d96587e8-7d54-47f8-b1c5-b8a7a6f8fcec-14&btsid=0b0a0ad815931240057351760ee53c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ in black + https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32853422957.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7fb845a8BlPFY5&algo_pvid=f6c3fa1f-1843-4c42-b9ea-a1ebad567d60&algo_expid=f6c3fa1f-18
21:27:34 <Lemon> 43-4c42-b9ea-a1ebad567d60-0&btsid=0b0a0ad815931241973878455ee53c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ in transparent black
21:28:13 <Ysjoelfir> its.......... well, give me one more day to answer that precisely. :) my thoughts so far are: first day: why the heck does that smell like dish soap!? fist day, few hours later: why the hell do I have to cough like crazy?! this morning: ooooh wow, thats a lot of vapor, and it tastes not that bad anymore!
21:28:14 <Lemon> 45 euros for a squonk in stabwood + a rda :>
21:28:31 <Lemon> haha I see :P
21:28:39 <Lemon> got the same thing with my m25
21:28:42 <Lemon> im still not a fan tho
21:28:55 <Lemon> the wasp nano is a single coil, and the squonker is a semi mech one !
21:28:59 <Lemon> you know how it works ?
21:29:06 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGx_-N1bqsg
21:29:54 <Ysjoelfir> I'm not sure I totally understood the working principle, no. looked unneccessary complicated to me. also, I think you should have chosen transparent gold with that cool stabby wood thing
21:29:59 <Lemon> this mod used to cost around 110 euros, but I found a few discounted ones on ali !
21:30:04 * Ampera squeezes Lemon
21:30:08 <Lemon> well in fact thats ultra simple
21:30:27 <Lemon> you squeeze the plastic part once every 3-4 hits, and liquid comes up to the RDA
21:30:31 <Lemon> hey amp waddup !
21:30:52 <Lemon> so you get a huge liquid capacity, and you can use a RDA without having to transport a bottle to throw some juice every hits
21:30:56 <Lemon> best of both worlds :>
21:31:04 <Lemon> and man, 35 euros for a stabwood squonker ?
21:31:10 <Ysjoelfir> that doesn't sound toooo bad
21:31:10 <Lemon> 10 euros for a rda everyone praise ?
21:31:17 <Lemon> thats insane !
21:31:23 <Lemon> and I love the black mosaic :>
21:31:35 <Lemon> I think I'll buy both, even if it will take a long time to come here
21:31:59 <Lemon> I prefer colder vape, so single coil low wattage is fine for me
21:32:06 <Lemon> around 5-60 watts
21:32:54 <Ysjoelfir> one thing I noticed is, that brunhilde wants A LOT of watts
21:32:58 <Lemon> so I get a nice capacity, super good taste
21:33:03 <Lemon> yes xd
21:33:07 <Lemon> thats the problem with rta's
21:33:13 <Lemon> its a double coil right ?
21:33:21 <Ysjoelfir> yes. with the delivered coils its only 0.12 ohms xD
21:33:34 <Lemon> yeah thats good at around 120watts +
21:33:42 <Lemon> im not a huge fan of hot vape
21:34:03 <K> 1kW or bust!
21:34:25 <coppice> I choose bust
21:34:25 <Lemon> heh it exisits, even more ! human fog machines, its named
21:34:29 <Lemon> with lipo batteries xd
21:34:33 <Ysjoelfir> with 60 watts its taking ages until it starts, if you start sucking it suddenly pops and shoots hot liquid bubbles in your throat xD
21:34:43 <Ampera> coppice, any real man would choose bust.
21:34:50 <Ysjoelfir> I tried 100 watts, that works pretty ok
21:34:51 <Lemon> haaa yes, thats exactly the same with mine
21:34:56 <Ampera> Not much, Lemon trying to wake up
21:34:56 <Lemon> also the airflow plays
21:34:57 <Ampera> how are you
21:35:01 <Lemon> if its too widee open for example
21:35:07 <Lemon> hooo im alright thanks, a bit tired !
21:35:11 <Lemon> looking for new toys :>
21:35:51 <Lemon> damn in every reviews it was 100 bucks +
21:35:57 <Lemon> 35 euros man thats such a good deal
21:36:06 <Lemon> I had to dig up to find one still for sale
21:36:46 <Lemon> and well its a mech mod with some protections
21:36:47 <Ysjoelfir> basically like with my... erm... exaggorator or whatever the name was. it's not being sold anymore IIRC, so I got a good deal for the old stock
21:36:48 <Lemon> I like that
21:37:49 <Lemon> you should get a wasp nano !
21:37:55 <Lemon> they are dirt cheap, and everybody love them
21:38:04 <Lemon> it will fit you more I think
21:38:07 <Lemon> as its a single coil one
21:38:57 <Lemon> they even give two squonk bottles in the package
21:39:13 <Lemon> thats so neat, I cant believe that a nice stabwood squonk could be sold for that cheap
21:39:20 <Lemon> I do want to polish/laquer it
21:39:26 <Ysjoelfir> nah, I don't want to get 1000 pcs. I'm happy with the exaggerator and I think I can learn to use the Brunhilde, too. I like the looks and the mouthfeel of that one, so I think I'll have to learn.
21:39:35 <Ysjoelfir> go on and show the result
21:39:51 <Lemon> thats ok then :> it can be hard to find the good vape
21:39:58 <Lemon> I already have 5 atomizers
21:41:17 <Lemon> also the nice thing with single coils
21:41:29 <Lemon> is that I bought handcrafted ones, sold in pack of two
21:41:39 <Ampera> they walkin in space ove der https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlK_bLnqmas
21:41:41 <Lemon> so they'll last longer :>
21:43:26 <Lemon> but yeh I want to llive the squonk life
21:43:29 <Ysjoelfir> whats that, Ampera? People walking on the ISS?
21:43:37 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, no outside it
21:43:46 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I meant
21:44:13 <Ysjoelfir> I meant like literally ON it. like on its outer hull :D
21:46:33 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, no they're walking on the space outside it
21:46:51 <Ysjoelfir> so like basically on... nothing.
21:47:03 <Ysjoelfir> that must feel very strange
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22:43:01 <ziga> hello
22:43:04 <ziga> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/709383168305791009/726004144678240276/JPEG_20200626_112113.jpg?width=384&height=683
22:43:08 <Ysjoelfir> hi
22:43:11 <ziga> what do you think Z1 is ?
22:43:28 <Ysjoelfir> a spark gap
22:43:37 <Ysjoelfir> or an option jumper
22:45:50 <Lemon> hi ziga
22:46:12 <K> maybe some high RF thing, but i doubt that
22:46:35 <ziga> it comes from an electric scooter BMS
22:46:58 <ziga> the one above in the picture is brand new
22:47:05 <ziga> the one bottom is burnt
22:48:04 <Lemon> looks like it arced yeah
22:49:27 <ziga> thanks guys
22:49:28 <K> hard to tell from the angle
22:49:39 <ziga> just found a similar footprint for a spark gap
22:49:40 <ziga> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/307144/esd-surge-protection-with-tvs-and-spark-gap
22:50:05 <K> not quite the same, spark gaps have > <, this one is > >
22:50:48 <K> alas, sparkgap makes most sense
22:51:42 <ziga> why would they name it Z1
22:51:44 <ziga> :(
22:51:56 <Ysjoelfir> ZZZZZAP1!
22:51:59 <Ysjoelfir> ? :P
22:52:01 <ziga> lol
22:52:22 <Lemon> ziga1 :>
22:52:29 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:52:32 <ziga> i got it
22:52:35 <ziga> Zpark gap
22:52:39 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
22:52:41 <Lemon> exactly !
22:53:55 <Lemon> well Ysjoelfir thats it, im getting the stabwood squonk in mosaic black, and a wasp nano in transparent black :>
22:54:01 <Lemon> thats an insane deal
22:54:11 <Ysjoelfir> get transparent gold too!
22:54:27 <Lemon> hmmm im not sure it will look good :> its a bit yellowish
22:54:30 <Lemon> black on black is fine
22:54:36 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that! yellow is so nice
22:54:40 <Lemon> I want the rda to be transparent so I can see if I under or over squonk
22:55:23 <Lemon> 45 euros for both man
22:55:25 <Lemon> how dope ?
22:55:31 <Lemon> for a freaking stabwood mod !
22:56:07 <Lemon> a squonk, on top of it
22:56:11 <Lemon> those are usually more expensive
22:56:19 <Lemon> msrp was 120 bucks
22:57:59 <Lemon> the worst is that I'll have to wait one month to get it :(
22:58:12 <Ysjoelfir> well.
22:58:23 <Ysjoelfir> perfect time to build stuff!
22:58:32 <Lemon> yeah thats not wrong
22:58:43 <Lemon> I soldered some resistors on a thumbwheel yesterday, didnt go well
22:58:56 <Ysjoelfir> why?
22:59:08 <Lemon> it was hard to place them correctly, and silver pads are a bit old and crusty
22:59:17 <Ysjoelfir> polish them?
22:59:18 <Lemon> I'll place them on the other side next thme
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