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09:35 Quit: qeed ([email protected]) Client exited
10:41 <rust_collector> mmmh, thunder!
11:48 Join: qeed ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
23:14 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, what is going on today?
23:22 <rust_collector> just games and
23:24 <rust_collector> ?
24:21 <Ysjoelfir> thunder? send some over, its freakin hot here!
24:32 <Ysjoelfir> today I'm working for my freelance job
25:03 <Ysjoelfir> creating components at the moment, as I haven't worked with that small stuff at home before.... so I need to create every damn resistor >_>
25:54 <Ysjoelfir> or.... T3sl4, is there some kind of.... batch function in altium? like "import from manufacturer search every part with typenumber ABCDE10R, changing the 10R to *list of values*"?
26:01 <Ysjoelfir> that would ease stuff a bit
26:09 <Ysjoelfir> and no, I don't want to use DBLIB
26:26 <T3sl4> built in, no
26:35 <T3sl4> dig thru scripts?
27:06 <T3sl4> i don't bother with individual parts, just add supply link to a generic part
27:17 <T3sl4> else use the frikkin dblib you numpty
30:29 <rust_collector> temp dropped from 28 to 19 here, good times
30:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oscilloscope movie spotting. https://t.co/K5mnWxozod
32:13 <Ysjoelfir> [16:27:05] T3sl4: i don't bother with individual parts, just add supply link to a generic part
32:25 <Ysjoelfir> I don't think I get what you mean
32:38 <T3sl4> during SCH placement
32:41 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - Now I want even more of that cold air :P
32:43 <Ysjoelfir> oh
32:46 <Ysjoelfir> ok, i get it
32:58 <Ysjoelfir> that'll be actually pretty easy
33:02 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
33:35 <Nothing\> woo i made my first program for an HP Prime. This is a pretty nifty little calculator
34:03 <Nothing\> wonder what language it is, feels like c or c++ or some bastardized version thereof
34:23 <T3sl4> so, arduino? ;)
34:25 <Nothing\> it almost makes me wanna buy a real one instead of using an emulator
34:37 <Nothing\> T3sl4, that's actually what it reminded me of
35:07 <Nothing\> i've never been good with high level languages though. low level languages just make more sense to me
35:13 <Nothing\> less gloopy syntax
35:15 <Ysjoelfir> d/me googles HP Prime
35:18 <Ysjoelfir> and hi Nothing\
35:27 <Nothing\> hey Ysjoelfir how's it hangin?
35:32 <Nothing\> also
35:40 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 and Ysjoelfir <3
35:50 <T3sl4> o/
37:07 <Ysjoelfir> that calculator is damn expensive! but it looks nice :) though I prefer mine for all day calculations, and octave for the more sophisticated stuff
37:19 <Ysjoelfir> wait, let me take a pic
37:22 Join: hsn__ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
37:30 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, really? i was looking at them and they were maybe $120CAD as i recall
37:40 <Nothing\> which for some reason is the same price as a TI-86
37:41 <Ysjoelfir> 170€ over here
37:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the academy award for the most gratuitous use of electronic components goes too.... Automata https://t.co/s7HwwCJ6bD
37:52 <hsn__> my first quote https://snipboard.io/GBQuiJ.jpg im cheap :)
38:10 <Ysjoelfir> I never paid more than 35 for a calculator, so I may be a bit.... misguided how expensive they can get^^
38:11 <Nothing\> but yeah, i figure for what it costs, i might as well just get a phone and run an emulator on the phone lol
38:40 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, same here, i have a TI-36 Pro I paid $35 for and that's the most expensive one i've ever had
39:16 <Nothing\> then of course i nodded off and spilled milkshake on it, so the keys are all gooped up and sticky now. despite my best efforts at cleaning it
39:51 <Ysjoelfir> hsn_ - thats kinda cheap, if the change rate for dinar to euro is still around 1:2. but otoh, if I look on upwork, the eastern countries seem to be in that general region with their quotes, so I think its fine for where you are?
40:04 <Nothing\> i tried to takee it apart, but the keypad PCB is stuck to the frame with sorta plastic rivets, so i can't take it off to clean it without destroying it
40:12 <Ysjoelfir> Nothing\ - you should stop salivating on your calculator :P
40:37 Quit: hsn_ ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
41:04 <Nothing\> lol i just fell asleep while i was enjoying a milkshake and spilled it on everything on the desk. which happened to include my precious calculator
41:05 <hsn__> i think yes ysjoelfir, i didnt search local free lance developers price tbh
41:55 <hsn__> the website developers are not that cheap . they do wordpress, other platform for some good amount of money compared to what they do ..
41:55 <Nothing\> so i finally bought a bench top power supply last night
42:00 <Nothing\> went with this one
42:02 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07GCGFDYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
42:08 <Nothing\> the 30v 10A model
42:20 <Nothing\> shelled out the extra money for a 4 digit display instead of 3
43:12 <Nothing\> now i've just gotta find a function generator between $100 and $150 but so far all of the ones i've come across either have shit reviews or the ones with positive reviews only have like 1 or 2 reviews, which i just can't trust
43:13 <rust_collector> ok!, windows install time...again
43:22 <Nothing\> rust_collector, formatting?
43:29 <Nothing\> or dualboot?
43:39 <hsn__> ysjoelifir, also i would quote for 8bd or somthing similar but he is relative and i allready did some jobs earlier for him with cheaper price thats why i didnt increase
43:49 <rust_collector> format and install
43:55 <Nothing\> right on
44:17 <Nothing\> i had to pirate a cracked copy of windows 10 cuz my computer just came with 10 installed, but no disc or anything
44:24 <Ysjoelfir> Nothing\ - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OIihFi5Ch8DPojNbQjLupThFuYiVcofi/view?usp=sharing
44:27 <Nothing\> so if anything ever happened, i'd be screwed
44:29 <Ysjoelfir> thats my go to calc on my desk^^
44:53 <Nothing\> nice!
44:58 <Nothing\> love the VFD
45:09 <Nothing\> or is that VFD?
45:15 <Ysjoelfir> no, its... erm...
45:17 <Ysjoelfir> wait
45:20 <Nothing\> LED?
45:32 <Nothing\> those nubby LEDs, i forget what they're called
45:44 <T3sl4> bubble
45:48 <Nothing\> that's it
45:49 <Ysjoelfir> yes, exactöy
45:51 <Nothing\> thank you
46:01 <Ysjoelfir> wanted to show a pic of the HPDL2416, as those are the same principle
46:07 <Nothing\> but yeah, VFDs are only that greenish blue color, aren't they?
46:22 <T3sl4> any color you can phosphor
46:25 <T3sl4> orange is also common
46:34 <Nothing\> my usual go-to calculator is an app on my mom's phone i bought called hipercalc
46:51 <Nothing\> or for graphing, i use desmos
46:57 <Ysjoelfir> however, I have a second one, slightly bigger than that, with a VFD. also very nice, but that one has a slightly broken keypad, you sometimes have to press very hard to make it respond. I still use it in the lab.
47:25 <Nothing\> i always wondered about these displays i keep seeing from time to time
47:39 <Nothing\> they look like VFD, they're the same blue/green color, but they're in more modern devices
47:49 <Nothing\> like in the radio console of my mom's car
47:58 <Nothing\> or the display of the cash register at the pharmacy
48:08 <Ysjoelfir> thats probably still a VFD
48:08 <Nothing\> they have this sort of grid layout for the display
48:09 <T3sl4> VFD are still around
48:30 <Nothing\> you'd think LED would be cheaper for a modern car
48:32 <T3sl4> could also be EL but not very effective on a grid
48:34 <Ysjoelfir> for many applications where stability and lifetime* and good readability is crucial they are still used.
48:45 <T3sl4> cars are using OLED too nowadays
48:54 Quit: Beni ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
48:56 <Nothing\> T3sl4, you ever see that spray-on EL display stuff?
48:59 <Nothing\> it's so cool
49:05 Join: Beni ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
49:05 <T3sl4> yeah
49:05 <Nothing\> it's like a capacitor in a can
49:16 <Nothing\> applied science did a nice video on it
49:32 <T3sl4> yeah i member
49:43 <Nothing\> lol member berries
50:45 <Nothing\> man, why'd i wake up so early
50:54 <Nothing\> i only slept like 4 hours
51:15 * Ysjoelfir hands Nothing\ a pillow
51:32 <Nothing\> and since i got off testosterone shots, i need at least 10 hours to feel somewhat functional. but even then i need a nap after a few hours
51:40 <Nothing\> and for me a nap usually lasts 2-3 hours
51:45 * T3sl4 grabs a duvet from steve30's closet
51:51 <Nothing\> i'm like a damn cat
52:26 <Nothing\> lol i used to have a duvet until i threw up on it. then lacking any home ec skills being recently divorced, i just threw it in the corner and left it for a few months
52:39 <steve30> eww
52:44 <Nothing\> i don't like sleeping with blankets or sheets or anythingo n me though. feels too restrictive
52:59 * steve30 <3 [clean] duvets
53:01 <Nothing\> steve30, lol yeah but in fairness it was a wedding present
58:07 * Ysjoelfir can somehow understand that feeling, though he got never divorced
00:10 <Nothing\> rofl my cat just got his head stuck in a bod of kleenex
00:34 <Nothing\> that woulda been a perfect kodak moment
00:45 <Nothing\> that's right, i'm bringing that term back
04:00 <Nothing\> you know, i just realized when you call somebody a bugger you're basically calling them an ass rapist
05:37 <rust_collector> you had to find a cracked winders, because your computer came with winders...
06:13 <Nothing\> yeah, dumb innit?
06:44 <Nothing\> also, i dunno where i got $120 from. I'm looking at HP primes and they look like they're going for between $200 and $250CAD
06:59 <rust_collector> you know you can just donload it from micro-soft right?
07:11 <Nothing\> windows?
07:13 <rust_collector> yes
07:17 <Nothing\> for free?
07:21 <rust_collector> yes
07:24 <Nothing\> what cuz i have a legit copy?
07:28 <rust_collector> yes
07:34 <Nothing\> i did not know that
08:01 <Nothing\> i know there's a way to format and reinstall without having to use a disc. but i didn't wanna take any chances
08:04 <rust_collector> the "key" is stored in something on yuor computer, so they know you had 10, and just uses that key when you reinstall
08:17 <Nothing\> well that's nifty
08:27 <Nothing\> is that what you're doing?
08:31 <rust_collector> yes
08:35 <Nothing\> right on
08:56 <rust_collector> otoh, this is an asus, so I have no idea if the damn thing will boot any time soon
13:16 <Nothing\> that's okay, i have a DEll
13:27 <Nothing\> DELL, i guess it's all upper case
13:37 <Nothing\> Dude, you're getting a DELL!
13:58 <Nothing\> cuz that big red freshness lasts right through it
14:09 <Nothing\> your fresh breath goes on and on while you chew it
14:45 <Nothing\> double your freshness double your fun. double your sperm count with double mint cum!
18:36 <rust_collector> ok, that was that...for this time
18:42 <rust_collector> one very clean computer
20:37 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:27 <rust_collector> only inside, lol
23:28 <rust_collector> wifes old laptop has been up for 12 days 3 hours and 33 minutes. Maybe I should turn it off
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... I keep my PC on most of the time. or better, in standby
24:34 <rust_collector> this machine is always on, but I am not sure why the laptop in on
25:03 <rust_collector> I just found a window that was ssh'd into it, lol
25:34 <rust_collector> butt.... rain stopped, I should go replace brakes
26:23 <T3sl4> butt rain you should get that looked at
27:38 <Nothing\> butt rain sounds like it should be a weird al version of purple rain
28:16 * Nothing\ puts on an episode of adventure time to watch while eating his mac and cheese with bacon frozen TV dinner
28:52 <Nothing\> lol my cat loves this show
32:21 * Ysjoelfir doesn't like TV :D
44:15 <hsn__> ysjoelfir do u like eevblog.tv
44:20 Nick: hsn__ is now known as hsn
46:08 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/yag34pdp
46:16 <Nothing\> holy crap this calculator's expensive
46:23 <Nothing\> might as well get a phone at this price
46:58 <Ysjoelfir> hsn since I don't realy enjoy EEVBlog videos anymore... I don't think so. have never looked into it though
47:04 <Nothing\> i wonder what it can do that a scientific/engineering calculator, hp prime emulator and desmos couldn't do. besides the programming
47:18 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, yeah i haven't been enjoying them as much lately either
47:28 <Nothing\> ever since he moved into the new lab they haven't been as good
48:18 <Nothing\> the mailbags are still good, but they're few and far between compared to how they were put out on a weekly basis before. but that's about all the content i really enjoy
48:41 <Nothing\> i'd like to see some more fundamentals fridays videos. those were great
48:54 <Ysjoelfir> I watched ALL videos up to... I think something around 600, when I noticed that he began to.... I don't know, feels like he got grumpy and a bit.. too fond of himself
49:02 <Ysjoelfir> yes, they were realy good
49:05 <Nothing\> i still go back and watch the one on zeners and the one on op amps every so often
49:26 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, yeah his ego ruins his videos sometimes
49:52 <Nothing\> there's this one video where he does a review of a uni-t meter and he just shits all over the thing for no good reason
50:03 <Nothing\> picking apart every little thing he can find to complain about
50:40 <Nothing\> made me feel bad cuz it was in the same series of meters as one i'd just bought so i was hoping he'd have something constructive to say about it
51:24 <Ysjoelfir> let me dig through the videos, maybe I can find one particular one that made me stop
51:31 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Tkm21dI1g
51:49 <Nothing\> that's the review i was talking about
52:02 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I know that one. its bad
52:36 <Nothing\> i think i have the UT71D
53:05 <Nothing\> i love it, except the battery compartment has self threading screws and the capacitance tester doesn't seem very accurate
53:09 <Ysjoelfir> sure, the meter is crappy compared to eg the gossen he compares it to, but that alone is a big fuckup imho. you just can't compare a 150€ china meter to a 500€ german meter
53:13 <Nothing\> even when i zero it out
53:24 <Nothing\> i thought it was a fluke he compared to it
53:32 <Nothing\> but yeah, it was apples and oranges with the comparison
54:07 <Nothing\> from the looks of the comments, we weren't the only ones unhappy with the review
54:42 <Nothing\> ah i guess it was a gossen
54:45 <Ysjoelfir> also this insane bashing on the self tapping screws on every meter... seriously, I've been using multimeters for like... 18 years now. most of them the cheap-ish kind with self tappers. I haven't had a problem with them since. if you know that you don't just screw the screw into the plastic but turn it back one turn until you feel the beginning of the thread there is absolutely no problem with that
55:23 <Nothing\> really? i just don't like them cuz when i use them i feel like i'm stripping away the tapping
55:40 <Nothing\> even being gentle and not tightening it too much
55:52 <Ysjoelfir> you are, if you don't start the screw at the right position.
56:00 <Nothing\> right
56:37 <Nothing\> lol i bought this clamp meter at the surplus store for around $20 a while ago
56:48 <Nothing\> couldn't get any readings off of the clamp for the life of me
56:57 <Nothing\> tried everything i could think of to troubleshoot it
57:06 <Nothing\> finally i read the the documentation
57:18 <Nothing\> turned out the clamp starts at 1000amps for some reason
57:34 <Nothing\> i dunno wtf sort of consumer is gonna need a clamp meter that starts off at 1kA
58:43 <Ysjoelfir> xD
58:52 <Nothing\> i'd still like to get a cheap clamp meter. ammeters are such a pain to connect to the circuit
58:59 <Ysjoelfir> dug through his old videos and found some which pissed me off. :D
00:35 <Nothing\> http://elmarkholding.eu/en/Digital_Clamp_Meter_EM266/p420.html
00:46 <Nothing\> ah 200-1000amps is the range
00:57 <Nothing\> but that's still ridiculously high
01:18 <Nothing\> especially for something from a surplus store selling home improvement stuff
01:58 <Nothing\> maybe i'll get a clamp meter now
02:12 <Nothing\> i might as well since i'm on something of a spending spree
03:41 <Ysjoelfir> one of the videos I was talking about was his two FPGA videos. I was very eager to learn about those, but in the videos he is only bragging about how shitty FPGAs are and how hard it is to even get started with them and how fucked up VHDL or Verilog is. So I never realy looked into it.
04:42 <Nothing\> ah i never watch anything about FPGAs cuz it's just not something that's relevant to me interests atm. except maybe the architecture
05:02 <Nothing\> damn cat keeps pressing the hotkeys at the top of my keyboard
05:10 <T3sl4> i need to get a dev kit one of these days, haven't touched vhdl in years
05:22 <T3sl4> really just one or two projects i'd bother with
05:36 <Nothing\> i'd love to get a dev kit for an 8051/52 or an MSP430
06:06 <Nothing\> the MSP430 ones are expensive though. they start at like $100 i think
06:26 <Nothing\> an awful lot of money for something i'll probably just turn into blinkenlichten
06:40 <Ysjoelfir> also I was pretty disappointed with the way he answered my two mails I sent. One was back when he was reviewing old multimeters. I happened to stumble over a collection of HArtmann & Braun multimeters from the early days and was eager to gift them to him, free of charge, I only askef for him to name the place where I got it from, as I found it very generous to just gift those. He denied, basically saying something like "if you are so eager
06:41 <Ysjoelfir> to get a free promotion you can keep your stupid meters"
07:26 <Nothing\> wow, what a dick
07:44 <Nothing\> and yet he shills all of these shitty kickstarters. half of them after they've already expired
08:06 <Ysjoelfir> yes, that hurt a good bit. I was very disappointed, which is why I stopped watching him
08:36 <Nothing\> i remember one video where he got some circuit somebody sent him and started shitting all over it. then as soon as he read the letter and found out the kid was only 12 his tone changed completely
09:21 <Nothing\> it seems his fame's gone to his head
09:38 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I remember that one
09:43 <Nothing\> though he's always been really opinionated
10:24 <T3sl4> think quality took a dive when he had kids
10:50 <Nothing\> i remember one of early episodes still in double digits where he was shitting all over tantalum caps cuz they apparently have a habit of exploding
11:34 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeha at first it was kinda cute when he had sagan on for a minute. but i can't sit through the full episodes. like when he does a mailbag with him
12:20 * Ysjoelfir has a realy big problem with children noises :X
12:24 <Ysjoelfir> No idea why though....
12:34 * T3sl4 squeals at Ysjoelfir
12:41 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, like that
12:53 <Nothing\> i just find children annoying in general
13:03 <Nothing\> which is ironic cuz i was a father once upon a time
13:13 <Nothing\> my daughter will be 17 this year :o
13:31 <Nothing\> but we've been estranged for some years now
14:35 <Ysjoelfir> sorry to hear that
15:18 <Nothing\> my one niece who's 16 was pretty cool when she was in my life. she was really into science and liked learning about that stuff. so i had a lot of fun teaching her. but i didn't get much time to cuz my brother would always be there and get her to do stuff like watch ash vs evil dead instead
15:39 <Ysjoelfir> meh
15:58 <Nothing\> the irony is she won't talk to him anymore cuz she's realized what a shit father he is cuz he made all the same mitakes i did, despite seeing what happened to me and my many warnings
16:08 <Nothing\> ah brb gotta help mum with groceries
16:14 <Nothing\> also, thanks for the condolences
16:23 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
16:27 * Ysjoelfir hugs Nothing\ :)
16:29 <Ysjoelfir> heh
16:38 <Ysjoelfir> 2 idiots, one thought, T3sl4 :P
16:48 * Nothing\ hugs Ysjoelfir and T3sl4 <3
16:51 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
16:54 <Nothing\> take care guys, be well
17:14 * Ysjoelfir hugs everyone
36:07 <rust_collector> oh great, now you have to get cleaned up again
36:55 * T3sl4 sprays liquid hug on rust_collector
40:54 <Ysjoelfir> you should be quiet, you just touched brake dust!
41:05 <Ysjoelfir> that'll be like 95% corona viruses!
53:53 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what's the other 5%?
56:52 <Ysjoelfir> brake dust
06:32 <Ysjoelfir> or, maybe pixie dust
08:37 * T3sl4 coughs some pixie dust on Ysjoelfir
09:05 * Ysjoelfir sparkles
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58:47 <rust_collector> I think I am done with "work" for the day
59:15 <Ysjoelfir> so your next audi is breaking again?
59:23 <Ysjoelfir> *braking
59:29 <Ysjoelfir> but breaking may be a good thing, too
59:31 <rust_collector> yeah, sort of
59:44 <rust_collector> that one has been broken many times
59:50 <Ysjoelfir> xD
00:35 <rust_collector> she wants to sell it, it looks close to perfect, it has a fairly new engine, and... yeah, not bad. but it is a 1.6l a4
01:58 <rust_collector> the left rear caliper is not great, but she can sell it, or get it fixed. that is the good thing about not owning it myself, I guess
02:44 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
11:16 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/3mXkYJM
12:02 <Ysjoelfir> XD
17:31 <rust_collector> having a hungarian cat would be so annoying
26:16 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
26:23 <Ysjoelfir> but my cat is also annoying.
32:24 <rust_collector> all cats are
35:10 <rust_collector> grill is working hard. pork, pork, and pork today.
37:49 * Ysjoelfir is just about to start his BBQ, too
43:02 * T3sl4 porks rust_collector
45:50 <rust_collector> OI!
46:26 <rust_collector> i am trying to counteract my progressive muslim look
49:16 <T3sl4> that sounds like the opposite of progress
49:18 <T3sl4> congress!
50:40 <rust_collector> arrrgh, I am not a fan of that artificial "smoke" they use on cheap meat
51:07 <T3sl4> liquid smoke is a good start, but it's not as rich as the real thing
54:53 <rust_collector> I think it is ok, if you just want a little bit of smokiness, but if you want a lot, just smoke the thing
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59:23 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o ThunderSqueak
38:14 * Ysjoelfir used a little bit of liquid smoke in his marinade to get a little bit of smokiness
39:11 <rust_collector> what happened to halcyons smoking project today? or was it yesterday?
40:03 <Ysjoelfir> he had a smoking project?
40:20 <T3sl4> smoking cocks, i assume
40:26 <rust_collector> he was smoking ribs, I think it was
41:53 * T3sl4 sucks Ampera's cocks
42:02 <T3sl4> or maybe they're hens, who knows what you're getting these days
42:18 <rust_collector> it is tricky
06:34 <rust_collector> chunky clives live stream is late again, but it still has 214 likes
12:11 <Ysjoelfir> oh, is he streqamming today? link? :D
12:31 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIwK45z3Mxk
12:38 <Ysjoelfir> ty
12:40 <rust_collector> most saturdays, at 220
12:49 <rust_collector> 5
13:09 <Ysjoelfir> I should start to watch it more regularely
13:16 * steve30 is now sanitised
13:21 <rust_collector> meh, it is a good waste of time
14:14 * Ysjoelfir should add a shot compartment into his component drawers
14:32 <rust_collector> so, this means it is time for a small drink then...
14:53 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
14:58 * Ysjoelfir cheers to rust_collector
15:15 <rust_collector> WHOOOOIIIEEEEIIIIEEEAAAAHHH!!!
15:21 <rust_collector> oops
17:18 <rust_collector> i will finish this bottle of zubrowka then... so I can start on the other thing
17:48 <Ysjoelfir> I have way to much to finish x.x
18:07 * Ysjoelfir decides for the Aquavit
18:10 <rust_collector> this is just left over from last sunday
18:18 <rust_collector> oh gawd.
18:24 <rust_collector> good night, Ysjoelfir
18:46 <Ysjoelfir> XD
20:49 <rust_collector> leather and cookies?
21:08 <Ysjoelfir> who would want to smell like that?
21:14 <rust_collector> eeh
22:15 <Ysjoelfir> I never understood the concept of dry shampoo
22:55 <rust_collector> no. and I do not think it really works either... well, maybe it does, but only because you have to wash it out?
24:08 <Ysjoelfir> what is that for anyways? if your hair is dirty either wash it or just wear a nice hat
24:38 <rust_collector> or... you know, tell people to just fuck off
27:29 <Ysjoelfir> one of my favorite things is... people are like "oh, have you been to the barber?" when, well, my hair is shorter than it was yesterday. I usually answer with "no, my hair just decided to grow back inside my head"
28:30 <rust_collector> I have never been to a barber. generic hair cutting person... I think 3-4 times
30:22 <Ysjoelfir> SWMBO forces me sometimes. I would like to let my hair grow again, i liked it long
30:45 <rust_collector> you don't have a cutting device?
31:51 <rust_collector> but, yeah, I might like it long, but that is not an option for me
32:07 <rust_collector> now I quite like it really short
33:11 <Ysjoelfir> I have, but I can't use it so that it looks ok. I also thought of the opposite, like, no hair at all on the head. but I think that'll look stupid on me
33:38 <rust_collector> Just be scary, and no one will care
35:28 <rust_collector> I think I have to trim the beard a bit....again
35:40 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I should do that too
35:43 <rust_collector> it is the most annoying boring thing I know
36:32 <Ysjoelfir> yep
36:44 <steve30> i once had long hair
37:04 <steve30> it got annoying after a while
37:17 <rust_collector> I never had more than to the shoulder, and maybe a little bit
37:32 <Ysjoelfir> but I noticed that I kind of.... "enjoy" shaving when I use my razor knife instead of the normal safety razor thing.
37:35 <rust_collector> these dyas, it just fall off, so that is good
37:50 <Ysjoelfir> I once had hair to... nearly my butt
38:03 <rust_collector> I shave, maybe twice a year
39:12 <Ysjoelfir> around... 6 to 8 times a ywar for me
41:33 <rust_collector> hey Ysjoelfir
41:39 <Ysjoelfir> hmm? :P
41:54 <steve30> i keep saying i'll get a new hair clipper
42:18 <rust_collector> this time, I used a dog trimming thing. it was pretty good
42:31 <Ysjoelfir> for the beard?
42:35 <rust_collector> hair
42:39 <Ysjoelfir> ah
42:45 <rust_collector> but, beard is hair
42:53 <rust_collector> I have a...
42:58 <rust_collector> uhm
43:31 <rust_collector> philips trimmer thing, that I swoosh the beard away with
43:56 <rust_collector> it is nice, because it has a vacuum thing, so the hair does not go everywhere
43:57 * steve30 doesn't like beards
44:18 <rust_collector> I like it in winter...
44:24 <rust_collector> but it is not winter
44:40 <rust_collector> otoh, I probably look 22 if I shave properly
44:52 <rust_collector> lol. or maybe not
45:00 <Ysjoelfir> I have that one - www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000OS72Y0/
45:07 <Ysjoelfir> works great
45:41 <rust_collector> yeah, how the hell would you make something like that work ok
45:49 <rust_collector> I mean, it has like
45:53 <rust_collector> 3 moving parts?
46:02 <rust_collector> CRAZY!
46:09 <Ysjoelfir> true. there is only great or shitty I assume
47:43 <rust_collector> https://www.amazon.com/Oster-Professional-Care-2-Speed-Clipper/dp/B004761SI6?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_3
47:51 <rust_collector> I think that is what we used this time
49:17 <Ysjoelfir> that looks pretty professional
49:29 <rust_collector> eh, yes
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53:57 <rust_collector> apple woosh
54:31 * Ysjoelfir tapes a lighter to his brake cleaner
55:00 <rust_collector> most these days are not chlorinated.
55:13 <Ysjoelfir> meh. way less fun
55:40 <rust_collector> yes, are you trying to relive the old days of... your area?
56:19 <Ysjoelfir> have you tried berner wonderclean? not for cleaning breaks, but for general cleaning on eg. cars? works very good, but is a bit expensive.
56:28 <Ysjoelfir> sure, always! :D
56:49 <rust_collector> most things berner is expensive. but no, I don't think I have
57:49 <Ysjoelfir> you should try it. I found an old-ish can, left from my father when he was still alive. it worked realy nice and I THINK I will get a new can when its empty
58:18 <rust_collector> I think berner was better value than... uuh. .....________ zebra
58:28 <Ysjoelfir> :P
58:40 <rust_collector> wth was it called again
58:47 <rust_collector> würth
58:48 <Ysjoelfir> würth
59:08 <rust_collector> "zebra quality"
59:09 <rust_collector> lol
59:12 <Ysjoelfir> yeah
59:22 <Ysjoelfir> life long warranty on every zebra article!
59:30 <Ysjoelfir> no questions asked!
59:55 <rust_collector> well, I remember paying 222 nok for a double ended wrench
59:59 <Ysjoelfir> once send in a sidecutter that had a broken cutting face as I snipped a steel nail with it. that thing never returned.
00:03 <rust_collector> 10/12mm
03:30 <rust_collector> their tape and glue stuff seems to be good. i won't buy much from them
04:02 <Ysjoelfir> I never did. got the stuff only from my dad as he has got that stuff from salesperson from time to time
04:36 <rust_collector> I got some digital calipers as a "sample"
04:40 <rust_collector> it is crap
05:27 <rust_collector> the battery angle grinder is not bad, but you need some chunky batteries
06:00 <rust_collector> the old one was shit, you might as well put a hand crank on the side of it
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> I have one from ryobi. that one works pretty good
08:01 <rust_collector> I have whatever I can get cheap, with a cable. they all work just fine
08:54 <Ysjoelfir> i have one with cable, too. but for most times I prefer the battery powered one if I don't need ultra high power
09:08 <rust_collector> for some reason, the super cheap ones seems to last forever, lol
09:43 <Ysjoelfir> no idea, I think I have inherited one of the most expensive ones...
10:31 <rust_collector> my usual small one now, is a skil, I think, maybe b&d. it has been making weird noises for a year or two. then it overheats, and starts smoking, but it just keeps working
11:11 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like what my makita cordeless drill did for some years before I exchanged it with a new one
11:25 <steve30> just watching the clivestream, what is the point in these smelly aerosol things? (other than as DIY flamethrowers)
11:41 <rust_collector> you...
11:44 <rust_collector> if
11:46 <rust_collector> uhm
11:56 <rust_collector> do you need a better reason?
12:40 <rust_collector> in the old office, they had one of those pssht things on the wall, battery powered
13:19 <rust_collector> if you put the battery in backwards, it just went pss pss pss pss pss until it was empty.
16:20 <Ysjoelfir> xD nice one
16:52 <Ysjoelfir> SWMBOs mum has such a stupid thing, facing directly to the door. many times when I enter it goes PSSSST and blows me something nasty stinking into my face
16:54 <Ysjoelfir> hate that thing
16:56 <rust_collector> it was a very flowery day
18:10 <rust_collector> we still have thunder here
18:32 <Ysjoelfir> we have darkness and hot air
21:05 <rust_collector> oh crap
21:33 <rust_collector> I thought I had a little bit left in my cup
22:58 <Ysjoelfir> I still have some in my second glass.
23:02 <Ysjoelfir> want some aquavit?
23:10 <rust_collector> no
23:21 <Ysjoelfir> why?
23:27 <rust_collector> I just do not like it
23:35 <Ysjoelfir> thats an argument
27:19 <Ysjoelfir> lol
27:24 <Ysjoelfir> the chat is going apeshit xD
27:29 <rust_collector> again
29:48 <Ysjoelfir> does that happen regularely?
34:05 <rust_collector> yes, his internet is not the best
34:38 <Ysjoelfir> you would assume so on that small cute island
34:44 <rust_collector> yep
35:11 <rust_collector> a tiny island, between the other small island(s)
36:16 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure they have great DSL speeds there! :P
36:32 <rust_collector> asl?
36:46 <Ysjoelfir> ah, the stream works again. nice
36:57 <rust_collector> it has, for a while now
37:01 <Ysjoelfir> oh
37:06 <Ysjoelfir> must have missed that :D
38:42 <rust_collector> those glasses made him look a bit like kerry king
39:00 <rust_collector> from after he lost his neck
39:09 <Ysjoelfir> XD
39:39 <Ysjoelfir> I always wanted to have glasses with a camera inbuilt. I think that would be pretty cool, eg. filming while driving the motorcycle
40:03 <rust_collector> ok. becuse just using a camers is a bit tricky?
40:45 <Ysjoelfir> because I before used a gopro but I hated that feeling of that block on the side of the helmet
41:21 <rust_collector> balance it with a second one, make it stereo vision, or whatever it was called
41:30 <Ysjoelfir> I tried to stick it on the sidecases, which didn't work as the bike just vibrates way to much (1 cylinder....)
41:32 <Ysjoelfir> xD
42:26 <rust_collector> maaaaybe.... make a proper mount for it?
43:07 <Ysjoelfir> or just don't bother and enjoy the ride
43:17 <rust_collector> yep
44:07 <Ysjoelfir> did I tell you that my uncle finally managed to convince his neighbor that he shouldn't keep this old motorcycle in his garage after not touching it for like 15 years, and that it would be way better if it would belong to me?
44:21 <rust_collector> heh, no
44:41 <Ysjoelfir> well, thats what happened on... wednesday I think
44:45 <rust_collector> ooh
44:49 <rust_collector> so....
44:52 <rust_collector> what is it?
44:54 <Ysjoelfir> So I now own two motorcycles
45:42 <Ysjoelfir> BMW R xxx RT or RS, not quite sure what the difference is there. also not sure if its the R60, R80 or R100
46:04 <rust_collector> I wonder if I have some 2 stroke oil left.... I want to get the little atv-like thing going again
47:03 <rust_collector> hmmm. I guess that would be nice on longer trips... but then, I am not a biker sort of person
47:14 <Ysjoelfir> I want to use my Simson S50 more again. it feels cool using such an old, small bike from time to time
47:19 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, its a tourer.
47:59 <Ysjoelfir> I wanted a tourer for a long time, as my bike (Yamaha SR500) just isn't suited. I once drove it from Solingen to Middelburg. that was terrible, my ass hurted so much
48:32 <rust_collector> i put a larger saddle on my little sukuki
48:56 <Ysjoelfir> its fun for everyday driving, as its small and pretty agile, but if you want to go on a trip... no. not happening again :D
49:09 <rust_collector> it was a 50cc er. the 100cc saddle fit just fine on it, and it was much nicer for my large ass
49:19 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D
49:56 <rust_collector> One of the things I sort of miss. it is still registered in my name, so if I find it, I am taking it home, lol
50:38 <Ysjoelfir> lol? :D where did you put it?
51:00 <rust_collector> I traded it for 2x puch maxi
51:09 <rust_collector> one was a maxi s
51:22 <Ysjoelfir> well. thats... kind of a nice deal I guess
51:32 <rust_collector> yeah, it was
51:53 <rust_collector> i wonder what the guy thought about my mods to the suzuki
52:19 <rust_collector> it really did need a larger clutch
53:26 <Ysjoelfir> what did you do to it?
53:44 <rust_collector> it was the limiting thing on that. you had to downshift going up hills, or the clutch would slip
54:09 <rust_collector> offf. well, it ended up with 175cc
55:16 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D nice
55:46 <rust_collector> if I could afford a large carb, and a clutch, it would probably be sort of fast
56:57 <Ysjoelfir> I'm not after fast. I'm happy if it can bring me from a to b
57:11 <Ysjoelfir> ideally in a somewhat comfortable way
57:16 <Ysjoelfir> and without killing my ears
57:30 <rust_collector> sure, but being able to do 70, and not ---50 or so, was a huge upgrade
58:28 <Ysjoelfir> well, that's why people like the Simsons. they do that without any tuning
58:35 <Ysjoelfir> and its legal to drive in germany
58:52 <rust_collector> well, a non norway spec er also does that
59:05 <Ysjoelfir> because it was legal in the GDR, so they couldn't make it illegal after the reunion^^
59:13 <rust_collector> right
08:38 <rust_collector> aah, kid #3 called, his amd thing is still crap
09:25 <rust_collector> neighbors have a birthday party, they are singing the moomin song
10:40 <Ysjoelfir> is that the one you worked on like 20 times already?
10:47 * Ysjoelfir remembers the moomins
11:07 <rust_collector> that is the one that needs windows installed most of the time
11:21 <rust_collector> he is going back to intel now, he says
11:31 <Ysjoelfir> ah
11:39 * Ysjoelfir is very happy with his amd
12:03 <rust_collector> I think he would also be very happy with it, if it would just work
13:19 <rust_collector> it does things like thinking it overheats, and stops doing anything
13:36 <rust_collector> I think the temp sensor is borked
14:06 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like it
14:56 <rust_collector> the company that built it just says user error... I don't really care, because it is supposed to be expensive to play games
15:49 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D
24:47 <rust_collector> I am very happy about not liking games. I have saved tons on money on that
25:38 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, probably. some are freakishly expensive
25:56 <rust_collector> mmhmm
37:34 <rust_collector> <DRINK!
37:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
37:47 <Ysjoelfir> but aquavit is empty
37:53 <Ysjoelfir> what should I choose next?
38:07 <rust_collector> so is this little bottle. I have to go find a different one
52:10 <Ysjoelfir> I like ralfs hat
52:20 <rust_collector> you would....
53:30 <Ysjoelfir> I do
54:29 <Ysjoelfir> I actually wear a hat like that, just with other fabric
55:16 <rust_collector> old people used to wear those, in the 80s
55:22 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
55:32 <rust_collector> oooh, weather is coming here
56:07 <Ysjoelfir> still only dark and warm here
03:45 <rust_collector> ooh, you can get hats
03:57 <Ysjoelfir> I hope so
10:02 <rust_collector> hah
13:57 <Ysjoelfir> Sometimes I wonder if having siblings would be.... interesting
14:14 <rust_collector> meh
50:01 <MrMobodies> Hello
50:08 <Ysjoelfir> Good Night :)
50:11 <rust_collector> hullo
50:30 <rust_collector> are you going already?
50:40 <MrMobodies> Can you identify cowboy works?
51:04 <rust_collector> is it done from the back of a horse?
51:09 <MrMobodies> Let say you see a door frame, it looks pretty but when looking closer, it is not level
51:12 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/GfpOrNr
51:19 <MrMobodies> I am trying to put up shelves
51:29 <MrMobodies> not many beams just plasterboard
51:30 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I have some work to do later and I need some sleep before. So, gn8 :)
51:39 <rust_collector> night
51:41 <MrMobodies> and now I know the width of the door frame where I can mount the brackets
51:43 <MrMobodies> oh
51:45 <MrMobodies> night
52:09 <MrMobodies> I removed that bit of wood, nothing behind there
52:27 <MrMobodies> I knew a bit of what I was going to find
52:56 <MrMobodies> I had to replace the door handles, they were broken and the latch, whoever put them on put it too tight and it jammed up on both doors
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53:04 <MrMobodies> and now that
53:09 <rust_collector> well, putting doors in houses is a bit... eeh. houses are in general not square and nice for long. so as long as the door stays in the wall, and opens and closes ok, it is probably good enough
53:24 <MrMobodies> I want to put in on the wall but I can tell where the beams are
53:41 <MrMobodies> in the cupboard I can see the beams and there are not many apart from the door which seems ot be attached to them
54:10 <MrMobodies> that's I thought ot screwing it to the frame, and put in extra supports where i can
54:33 <rust_collector> well, how much do you plan to put on the shelf?
54:37 <MrMobodies> If it was brick, it would have up in no time.
54:43 <MrMobodies> the ups 10kg
54:50 <rust_collector> the door frame is plenty strong
55:05 <MrMobodies> the best bit I can find
55:16 <MrMobodies> but the door frame in the cupboard is stronger
55:26 <MrMobodies> where a bigger shelf is going
55:34 <MrMobodies> that will have the modems on it
55:39 <rust_collector> does not matter. it only has to be strong enough
55:58 <MrMobodies> I am going to make sure it will be strong
56:10 <MrMobodies> at the expense of looking ugly if necessary
56:30 <rust_collector> ok, then why are you using those brackets that have the screws way down the leg?
56:55 <MrMobodies> the smaller side?
57:05 <MrMobodies> ahh
57:13 <MrMobodies> they are all I can find
57:22 <MrMobodies> I can buy another but they were for something else
57:27 <rust_collector> if the screw is just underneath the shelf... that would be stronger, no?
57:51 <MrMobodies> You mean put a frame on the door, and then the hangers. I could go out and buy that
57:57 <rust_collector> not that it matters, if you are only putting 20 kg on it
57:57 <MrMobodies> I put one in the cupboard
58:13 <MrMobodies> I am going to try and put extra support in the back
58:22 <MrMobodies> and screw it down on the top of the shelf
58:28 <MrMobodies> with some pine wood
58:32 <rust_collector> no, that will be fine as it is, as long as the screws go into the actual door frame
59:01 <MrMobodies> I know it may look stupid but I feel restricted due to the way they built it
59:09 <rust_collector> not just the trim piece around it
59:32 <rust_collector> who cares how it looks, if you want it to do a thing, then make it do that thing
59:33 <MrMobodies> Well I trimed that side as it wans't level so tomorrow will be the other side
59:56 <MrMobodies> when it is up, I'll drill some holes
00:12 <MrMobodies> in the cupboard, put bulbs in there, they will be powered by the UPS
00:26 <MrMobodies> so when we switch the fuse box off there will be light
00:37 <MrMobodies> can't see anything in that cupboard
00:45 <MrMobodies> like the meters
01:02 <MrMobodies> I think it is 25cm on the right and 21cm on the left
01:10 <rust_collector> you make me want to put emergency lights in the meter/breaker cabinet
01:51 <MrMobodies> I was thinking of an automatic mains switch over that Bigclive featured in one of his videos
01:55 <MrMobodies> I might consider one
02:21 <MrMobodies> but I will wire it to a wago box, then to a power strip, but through an double pole isolator of coure
02:39 <MrMobodies> I got some MK safety bulbs
02:57 <rust_collector> be different, and use wire nuts
03:02 <MrMobodies> with shutters just incase I take out a bulb to get somewhere and I stick my fingers
03:31 <MrMobodies> The round things I remember those
04:07 <rust_collector> wizard hat looking things
04:11 <MrMobodies> The UPS I got for £50 on ebay had a battery that was installed in 2018 and still good
04:18 <MrMobodies> a Yuasa 12V 12A
04:24 <rust_collector> that is ok
04:36 <rust_collector> how long can you run stuff off that?
05:50 <MrMobodies> I don't know, 144w battery power
05:54 <MrMobodies> bulbs 11w each
06:05 <MrMobodies> modems psu's 2x 12.5w
06:11 <MrMobodies> and a atom 65w
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07:05 <MrMobodies> 5*11+30+65 around 111w perhaps an hour or less
07:19 <MrMobodies> but I may install a changeover switch for the lights
07:24 <MrMobodies> It is a APC SC620i, has a genuine fault where if it is powered down, won't power up until mains is re applied. I found it is a solder joint issue on a Russian repair video.
07:28 <rust_collector> and probably not running at that all the time, so maybe a bit more
07:44 <rust_collector> oh ok
07:54 <MrMobodies> It'll be handy when he work on the mains fuse box
08:07 <MrMobodies> it is so dark in there and no where to put a torch
08:17 <rust_collector> I have almost considered a box like that, because power is not as stable as it used to be
08:52 <MrMobodies> this one is a stepped up sine wave but seems to work well with bulbs and the Li Shin power supplies.
09:15 <rust_collector> I would just run 3 routers and my pc. I don't know too much about those things
09:20 <MrMobodies> I know there are selling pure sine wave inverters and I might get one, but I will have to be prepared to buy good batteries
09:57 <rust_collector> the backup thing is ie an inverter and battery with a switch, no?
09:58 <MrMobodies> on ebay they are selling for about £100 to £200 pure sine waves, with new batteries, but they are the noname/ unheard of brand that I don't trust.
10:07 <MrMobodies> yes
10:09 <MrMobodies> relay switch
10:23 <rust_collector> well, whatever... it is a switch
10:31 <MrMobodies> power it on, allows power to the plugs in the back
10:52 <MrMobodies> on disconnect it quickly switches and I hear a buzzing noise from the transformer inside
11:05 <MrMobodies> *switches to the battery I mean
11:14 <rust_collector> I should have a look in the recycling bins...
11:50 <MrMobodies> I think you may find some good ones that just need some good batteries
11:50 <rust_collector> it might be a bit early, we purged all the computer related things a year and a half ago
12:05 <rust_collector> yes, maybe.
12:07 <MrMobodies> I would bother getting the older type, unless given away
12:22 <MrMobodies> A pure sine wave is something i want to get for my other stuff
12:33 <MrMobodies> this will only do the modems, data logger and lights
12:43 <rust_collector> i wouldn't bother getting a new one, because... it is no big deal for my use.
13:32 <MrMobodies> I found some really good Germans ones for about £100, with new dodgy batteries. There is one problem with the one I found.
13:39 <rust_collector> I notice we are shipping out loads of the eaton ones now. I guess they have some kind of deal going now
13:41 <MrMobodies> It has a loud fan that I would have to alter
14:09 <rust_collector> but is the fan running when the mains is on?
14:39 <rust_collector> if it is only on when the power of off, then... that is not a huge deal, I guess?
15:10 <MrMobodies> Ihttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eaton-UPS-5E650iUSB-backup-battery-with-USB/303585606929?hash=item46af1cbd11:g:OSMAAOSwMyBe1s7r
15:20 <MrMobodies> that's cheaper than my othe rone
15:33 <rust_collector> oh, that thing is tiny, lol
15:43 <MrMobodies> well I read some reviews and they said it runs all the time and they had fit a regulator
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16:07 <MrMobodies> I mean the lovelly German one and I could hook up an external battery in the back
19:10 <MrMobodies> ahh sorry it is not german
19:18 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PowerVar-1440VA-Pure-Sine-Wave-UPS-new-batteries-12-Month-Warranty/401697592924
19:50 <MrMobodies> pure sine wave but that is £86 and i read others altering the fan on it
20:28 <rust_collector> fan controllers should be easy enough to find
21:06 <MrMobodies> I have quite a few 12v thermal take ones
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21:20 <MrMobodies> I brought many and I think they were going for £2 each in 2012
21:58 <MrMobodies> they are the ones with the plastic casing that comes with a sticker
22:25 <rust_collector> I have no idea. but if it has a sticker, that is nice, lol
25:01 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zalman-Fanmate-2-Fan-Controller/114247277858?hash=item1a99ab1d22:g:jucAAOSw8Dhe19c8
25:15 <MrMobodies> it was a Zalman not a Thermaltake
25:20 <MrMobodies> I get them confused sometimes
27:48 <MrMobodies> there is a bug with Chrome 81
28:03 <MrMobodies> when I have two browsers of the same profile opened
28:28 <MrMobodies> the first one I opeened is in the background
28:50 <MrMobodies> and second one is what I am using, the first one will get in front
29:02 <MrMobodies> after 30 seconds, very annoying.
29:12 <MrMobodies> every 30 seconds
29:17 <rust_collector> heh, that is weird
30:21 <MrMobodies> I have two ebay windows
30:47 <MrMobodies> every 30 seconds it will bring the first opened window in focus
31:12 <MrMobodies> but that's alright, I could always make a secondary browser profile
31:14 <MrMobodies> for ebay
33:01 <MrMobodies> C:\Browserprofiles\Programs\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe --user-data-dir="C:\Browserprofiles\MrMobodies\chrome\Ebay" "C:\Browserprofiles\Webpages\Ebay.html"
33:47 <MrMobodies> I find that much more manageable
34:12 <MrMobodies> adverts don't display the same thing I saw on many websites despite turning off third party cookies
49:44 <rust_collector> I should buy a bunch of angle grinders. or maybe an ultrasonic cleaner thing
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47:29 <rust_collector> rain really started up again. neighbor is still watering his lawn, lol
52:04 <MrMobodies> it was quite a nice day
52:18 <MrMobodies> very bright not too hot or cold
52:30 <rust_collector> it has been raining almost all day, well since around 2
53:00 <MrMobodies> well a couple of days ago, all of a sudden it rained so heavily the yard was covered in water
53:03 <rust_collector> it was nice, temps dropped from 28 to 19, and we got some nice thunder now and then
53:07 <MrMobodies> but it was only for half an hour
53:18 <MrMobodies> oh yes and there was a thunderstorm
53:40 <MrMobodies> but the temperature was very high in fact next week in the UK it is going to be very hot
54:13 <rust_collector> ok, I won't go there then
54:18 <MrMobodies> 30 degrees necxt week
54:18 <MrMobodies> https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/pe7/today
54:35 <MrMobodies> but I'd expect there to be breeze from the trees
54:48 <rust_collector> yeah, it has been 28-29 all week it is not very good for people like me
55:05 <MrMobodies> in my old place, always hot, no breeze high humidity
55:22 <MrMobodies> here lots of trees
55:34 <MrMobodies> feed the birds and they put on a show
56:08 <rust_collector> be careful with feeding the birds now. or you have to keep feeding them
57:00 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/l5r8kCc.jpg
57:15 <MrMobodies> they're like my pets now
57:26 <MrMobodies> when I wake up in the day, no noise
57:33 <MrMobodies> when I am near the window then they sing
57:35 <rust_collector> HEY that is not birds, those are pigeons
57:37 <MrMobodies> and follow me
57:46 <MrMobodies> there are all sorts of birds
57:49 <MrMobodies> tiny ones too
58:45 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/V4PVoRB.jpg
59:02 <rust_collector> yes, those are birds
59:16 <MrMobodies> blackbirds, robins, a family of crows (sometimes they terrorize the neighbours hens)
59:27 <rust_collector> that is what they do
59:39 <MrMobodies> I hear them caeing at them in the morning
00:14 <MrMobodies> and some of them look huge. they not happy with a couple of piece of bread, they have pick up more than 6 or so
00:50 <MrMobodies> There is something I was wondering about.
00:53 <rust_collector> but be careful when you feed birds. it is ok to help them thru the winter, but don't trick them into thinking there is a lot of food, so they make lots of kids, and then they might not find enough food after all
01:04 <MrMobodies> oh yes
01:08 <MrMobodies> they may overpopulate
01:15 <MrMobodies> and then become pests with their poo
01:38 <MrMobodies> I better be careful not to make it a haven
01:54 <rust_collector> well, they might, but they also starve to death, if you only feed them until the eggs are laid
02:07 <MrMobodies> I opened a thread on Eeevblog a couple of days ago
02:12 <MrMobodies> and it disappeared
02:25 <MrMobodies> I wonder, was it inappropriate, now I think it might of been
02:28 <rust_collector> are you sure it was not moved to some other section?
02:45 <MrMobodies> no, it was do with some high tech military aircraft
03:03 <MrMobodies> that Boris Johnson wanted to paint the Union Jack colours
03:17 <MrMobodies> at the cost of nearly a million pound
03:24 <rust_collector> great idea
03:30 <MrMobodies> but it would put them at risk for enemies
03:42 <rust_collector> did he want them to be pedal powered as well?
04:05 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/boris-johnson-to-conspicuously-paint-military-plane-for-900-000/msg3099753/
04:12 <MrMobodies> The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.
04:21 <MrMobodies> It was a news article post
04:33 <MrMobodies> I thought it might be interesting
05:14 <MrMobodies> but then maybe it got poltical an argument broke out and it disappeared
05:27 <MrMobodies> as it does star a politician
05:44 <MrMobodies> It was a grey colour but we wanted to put striples on it
06:01 <MrMobodies> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/17/paint-job-on-boris-johnson-plane-will-cost-taxpayer-900000-pounds
06:16 <rust_collector> yeah, who knows.
06:30 <MrMobodies> Pay 900,000 pounds to put yourself at risk, nevermind the tax payer.
07:42 <rust_collector> nah, it is not him that is at risk. the risk is when it is used for other things
08:12 <MrMobodies> I see, someone might want to steal the aircraft.
08:59 <rust_collector> uhm, no, they might want to shoot it down, or something, it is not only used as his get around plane
09:40 <MrMobodies> other people on board using it
10:31 <rust_collector> that plane is used to carry personel into war zones, and other things also,
11:22 <rust_collector> which would not be fun if it was red and blue
11:23 <MrMobodies> and soon can become conspicuos
11:55 <rust_collector> well, they can just use a different plane, when they are worried about where they are going.
12:20 <MrMobodies> in other words he is putting other personal at risk using the plane.
12:29 <rust_collector> ok, it is also a refueling plane. I wonder why he uses that to get around
13:29 <rust_collector> meh, you have to let them have their toys. who would want to be a politician, if they could not do dumb shit
16:01 <MrMobodies> I always thought "Politicians are like snakes, they shed their skin every couple of years" Their skin being their ideas.
16:29 <MrMobodies> Then someone told me to stop insulting snakes. He was a pet snake collector.
17:32 <rust_collector> Oh, I am not so sure about that. i think they keep their ideas. but their idea may not fit in the latest big thing, so it is put on hold until later. but it will be mentioned every time they can
21:54 <MrMobodies> but do you think that was inappropriate to post on Eevblog? or do you think it was removed as some political argument might have started.
22:19 <MrMobodies> I got no message or anything so it is a little strange.
22:24 <rust_collector> I have no idea. i do not think posting it in itself would be a problem
22:50 <MrMobodies> I think an argument started out and one of the moderators deleted the thread or moved it somewhere
22:53 <rust_collector> I would think they would send you a message, if they deleted your thread.
23:09 <rust_collector> or maybe there was an issue, and it just got lost. it happens
23:10 <MrMobodies> I would have been warned that it was inappropriate.
24:41 <MrMobodies> next week my case worker is going to see me
24:44 <MrMobodies> in the garden
25:03 <MrMobodies> those are the rules now for her visits and i have to be a couple of metres away
25:27 <MrMobodies> I'll bring out some chairs, an extension lead, kettle and a lead with a wifi point
25:32 <rust_collector> you should bring a stick to keep her away
25:44 <MrMobodies> the good thing about this case worker
25:52 <MrMobodies> she is not wasting my time
26:07 <MrMobodies> if she can't find work or get me in, I just wai
26:10 <MrMobodies> t
26:18 <MrMobodies> she doesn't make me feel bad
26:38 <MrMobodies> I told her the way things were and she thinks it is just the area
26:55 <MrMobodies> I am starting to think it is the area
27:16 <MrMobodies> they don't even give many people a chance there they just write them off
27:24 <MrMobodies> I went up north and they have me a chance
27:43 <MrMobodies> but when I went back home I was met with all the hostilities before
28:08 <MrMobodies> here in Cambrigdeshire people say hello to yo
28:28 <rust_collector> sure, different places are...different
28:31 <MrMobodies> try that in Essex "What you looking at!" and they throw things at you
28:57 <MrMobodies> I think they call them Essex or Romford CHavs
29:04 <MrMobodies> but when you get to know them they can be quite nice
29:21 <rust_collector> hah sounds like my people. I might go talk to them
29:24 <MrMobodies> take you to the pub where they buy free drinks but then they get drunk and out of control
30:28 <rust_collector> I like drinking at home, lol
30:58 <MrMobodies> My favorite is, Old speckled Hen, and the Guiness
30:59 <rust_collector> I am not a huge fan of people in general, and crowds makes my brain shut down.
31:20 <MrMobodies> when then are lots of people and they quiet, then I don't mind
31:30 <rust_collector> these days, I am only drinking vodka mixed with whatever
31:37 <MrMobodies> but when they are screaming and swearing, I tend to want to find hide
31:48 <rust_collector> well, why would people go to some place to sit there and be quiet?
31:54 <MrMobodies> vodka I haven't had that for years
31:58 <MrMobodies> I got to try it again
32:24 <rust_collector> I have found 3 brands I like now. well, 4, maybe
32:43 <MrMobodies> There was a song about Essex in the 80;s on spitting image
32:44 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4r_a5adehs
32:48 <MrMobodies> found it funny
32:59 <rust_collector> koskenkorva, russian standard, and dworek
33:22 <rust_collector> there is a second polish one, that starts with an s, but I can not remember the name right now
33:25 <MrMobodies> oh yes Vodka Russia
33:52 <rust_collector> I like it with as little taste as I can get, lol
34:05 <rust_collector> well. at least aftertaste
34:27 <rust_collector> some of the regular brands taste like flux and grass
34:58 <rust_collector> but these seems to taste... almost nothing, and I do not get the massive hangovers
35:03 <MrMobodies> When the local pub reopen I;ll see if they any
35:12 <MrMobodies> it'll be outside serving
35:58 <rust_collector> they are still closed? you people have to get started soon. the rest of the world is up and...crawling along
36:19 <MrMobodies> England seems backards in most areas
36:29 <MrMobodies> I heard 6 years behind the US in technology
37:27 <rust_collector> that depends on what part of technology you think of. and for who.
37:29 <MrMobodies> people here seem to be very naieve including me and it isn't until I know stuff I can challenge
38:07 <MrMobodies> A Japanese came to Britain in 2006
38:31 <MrMobodies> He had 100mbps connection in his apartment but when he took out a contract to his surprise
38:32 <rust_collector> oh, they have been there before that....
38:36 <MrMobodies> it was 4mbps ADSL
38:41 <rust_collector> great
38:55 <MrMobodies> Japan 100mbps 2006 Britian 4MBPS adsl
39:28 <rust_collector> I think I had 60 around that time. I could buy more, but...
39:28 <MrMobodies> I think it went a bit higher in 2010 but they trying vdsl out I think was 30mbps or so
40:54 <MrMobodies> they did not do any computer science of code or anything apart from Office applications it is only now they are doing it after many complaints
40:59 <MrMobodies> in 2013
41:10 <MrMobodies> but that is all on Youtube now
41:14 <MrMobodies> most of it
41:19 <rust_collector> on one side, you are packed up tight on a little island. so in that way, it should be "easy" enough to get proper internet. but otoh, you have way too many people living there
41:39 <MrMobodies> yes Hornchurch was over populated
41:52 <MrMobodies> they were building too many houses
42:25 <MrMobodies> In the day time the street wasn't packed with single prams but double or triple prams
42:37 <MrMobodies> then they all cry in the shops in library, no peace there
43:01 <MrMobodies> the study area in the new library there was not isolated from the reception
43:07 <rust_collector> well, the population density of england is 259 people per square km
43:09 <MrMobodies> but most of the learners seem deaf
43:16 <rust_collector> up here, it is 15
43:23 <MrMobodies> I see
43:29 <MrMobodies> the lesser the man the bigger the share
43:37 <rust_collector> so, there is a lot of people there
44:28 <MrMobodies> too many people, lack of resources and opportunities for people like me.
44:36 <rust_collector> heh, for some reason, this village seems to make people make uuh. quint...kids
45:11 <rust_collector> it happens every now and then here. not so much in most other places
45:51 <MrMobodies> the children here seem well behaved
46:03 <MrMobodies> there is a foster care centre near a school
46:29 <MrMobodies> they were doing stuff like stealing the names vegetables, eating them and throwing them back over the fence
46:35 <rust_collector> heh. germany has 623 per km
46:41 <MrMobodies> I head they were illiegal immigrants
46:57 <MrMobodies> that's a lot 623
47:10 <MrMobodies> but isn't it bigger
47:23 <MrMobodies> or just unequal somewhere
47:26 <rust_collector> well, whatever you do, don't touch them, because then you would be racist, and they would be victims, and has to be given a house
47:41 <rust_collector> germany is smaller than norway, by area
48:19 <MrMobodies> I heard a black boy was caught stealing IT equipment in a school
48:40 <MrMobodies> they questioned the boy and he said "Is it because I am black"
49:03 <MrMobodies> they said "No, it is because were you seen taking IT equipment on CCTV footage"
49:04 <rust_collector> there you go
49:51 <MrMobodies> I hear they are tearing up statues
50:11 <rust_collector> yeah, ok, but we all look the same to you... how do you know it was me?
50:16 <MrMobodies> but isn't that what the terrorist were doing in Egypt or so ruining historical artificats
50:40 <rust_collector> are you taking about the us of a now?
50:59 <MrMobodies> no Englanbd
51:22 <rust_collector> ok, I have no idea. I have not heard about and de-statuing there
51:28 <MrMobodies> they are now going after statues calling them racist and so on
51:37 <rust_collector> ok
52:19 <rust_collector> well... life over there is going to suck for some time. get used to it, or get away, imo
52:28 <MrMobodies> https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/topple-racists-full-list-uk-statues-campaigners-want-removed-because-racist-associations-robert-peel-robert-milligan-2880117
52:58 <rust_collector> I think it is time for my nap. have a good... morning
53:01 <MrMobodies> Doesn't bother me but they should learn a bit of history of what times were like then and appreciate as the world develops
53:11 <MrMobodies> night
53:30 <rust_collector> no no, now you are just being racist
53:38 <MrMobodies> oh sorry
53:55 <MrMobodies> I mean't it wasn't right how black people were treated
54:08 <MrMobodies> but that is slowly changing I expect
54:28 <MrMobodies> maybe that was, sorry
55:24 <MrMobodies> I think I just insulted some people, sorry.
55:27 <rust_collector> nah.
56:22 <rust_collector> I think they just have to make a line, and "get over it" and start over. they will never get their past back
57:18 <MrMobodies> they should look at science, go to Africa for centuries, and skin produce melanine
57:37 <MrMobodies> and turns dark to protect against the sun
57:49 <rust_collector> it was different times. that may not make everything right, but it has happened already, you can not undo that.
58:22 <MrMobodies> awareness campaigns seem effective but not thuggery in tearing down things
58:28 <rust_collector> right
58:33 <rust_collector> well, good night
58:37 <MrMobodies> night
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29:11 <Halcyon> Woot, I have fast(er) internet now
29:20 <Halcyon> 110 down 43.5 up
33:57 * T3sl4 pats Halcyon
34:01 <Halcyon> :)
34:07 <T3sl4> welcome to regular speeds? :P
34:13 <Halcyon> Pretty much
34:27 <Halcyon> I mean it's still meh for 2020, but it's a step in the right direction
34:53 <T3sl4> certainly high enough to do much of anything, you just don't have instant downloads of huge files
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14:32 <hsn93> https://youtu.be/-_jfBYgI48c << the cat behind is intresting
27:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If you like your physical electronics magazines, @diyodemag have a big sale on back issues: https://t.co/mIXiphJNh7
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10:27 * hsn93 dont leave me alone
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12:11 <hsn93> o/ hello there
14:22 <Halcyon> How's it going?
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33:10 <hsn93> its going bananas
33:22 <hsn93> ysjoelfir gm to u
33:38 <Ysjoelfir> gamemaster to you too, my dearest hsn!
33:52 <hsn93> <3 im dearest the only hsn :P
45:04 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely!
49:39 <T3sl4> transconductance to micro as well
52:08 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
52:49 <hsn93> huh^2?
55:48 * hsn93 transconduct t3sl4
56:03 <hsn93> transconducts*
57:31 * Ysjoelfir has to remember that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCZDWZFtyWY
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09:46 <T3sl4> i swear most people sing that tune higher
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19:13 <Ysjoelfir> I couldn't
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37:05 <hsn93> :> what ugly voice
38:06 <hsn93> it reminds me of someone in an anime i used to watch (one piece) ..
47:02 <Ysjoelfir> you just disqualified yourself in SWMBOs eyes xD
48:26 <Ysjoelfir> You know whats shitty? You prepare something for someone and that someone isn't going online xD
48:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q37uaGIpIj1z0KsMI95JaFCkEHNSMRZX/view?usp=sharing
48:32 <hsn93> :D
48:58 <hsn93> nicee
49:15 <hsn93> he is coming in 2 hours i think
49:52 <hsn93> what r u shipping lemons
51:26 <Halcyon> Mmm lemon
51:37 <Ysjoelfir> basically scrap from my workplace. Cables we discarded that are still usefull (BNC to twin banana, twin bananas with open end, short safety 4mm leads,....) and two ancient power analyzers. but don't tell him about the analyzers. its supposed to be a surprise
51:48 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Halcyon
51:49 <Halcyon> The love heart is a nice touch
51:55 <Ysjoelfir> xD
52:24 <hsn93> hahahaha now i understand internet trolls : https://snipboard.io/j95mFf.jpg
53:04 <Ysjoelfir> XD you evil bastard :P
53:49 <hsn93> xD
55:03 <Ysjoelfir> but thb, I don't like louis' videos anymore. I enjoyed the early ones where he showed technical ways to repair stuff, but he seems to be drifting very strongly into a "I am so great and everyone else is an idiot" route.
55:11 <hsn93> ysjoelfir how much would the shipping be for such box
55:28 <Ysjoelfir> seems to be a common internet phenomenon. happened to many channels I quite enjoyed for a long time
55:35 <Ysjoelfir> erm... let me look that up
56:12 <hsn93> ysjoelfir i stopped watching when i noticed the "fck u" get annoyingly repeated in all his videos..
56:32 <Ysjoelfir> either 15.99€ or 20.99€ (6.72BHD - 8.82BHD)
56:35 <hsn93> the guy is angry ..
56:41 <Ysjoelfir> yes, exactly
57:32 <Ysjoelfir> which is sad, he has so much knowledge. not exactly in depth technical knowledge, but he has such great skills in.... lets call it, problem solving by logical thinking
57:49 <Ysjoelfir> and I realy enjoyed watching his videos where he shared his ways of approaching problems
58:16 <Ysjoelfir> also the early videos where he told about his "carreer" realy motivated me
59:06 <hsn93> yeah ,, at begining i thought he is angry from apple
59:13 <hsn93> but seems he is angry from a lot of things
59:33 <Ysjoelfir> yep. but now it shifted more towards being... what do you call it in english.. short tempered? in general.
00:01 <hsn93> </o\>
03:05 <Ysjoelfir> yeah
03:52 <hsn93> so how is ur work
07:18 <Ysjoelfir> some more I enjoyed quite a lot but noticed a change in personality over time that I didn't like: Julian Ilett, Thunderf00t, EEVBlog, Foodwishes (not technical, I know...), Lindybeigy (technical, but not electro) and possibly many others I jhust don't remember now.
07:19 <EEVBlog> You can get that on the internet now?
07:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
09:01 <Ysjoelfir> But others I enjoy even more, like bigclive (even though his content shifted a bit, his style is still the same I enjoy so much), techmoan, AvE, and two i kind of "recently" found, Garage54 and Advoko MAKES. the last two are russians and I noticed that I like them very much, even though the way they present are absolutely opposites of the spectrum
09:06 <Ysjoelfir> [12:03:50] <hsn93> so how is ur work
09:31 <Ysjoelfir> ^ processing quite good, I feel... like working very effective at the moment. wait, let me show you a 3D render of the project I'm working on for my client
10:27 <hsn93> okay
11:26 <Ysjoelfir> "that was just too much text for hsn93's brain to compute. please wait, processing....." XD
11:55 <hsn93> oh common im stupid, not dumb
11:56 <hsn93> xD
12:06 <Ysjoelfir> :P
12:18 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18I6vz6_APZ-Z5FHbqTbdn6xR-e1XRuDA?usp=sharing
12:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes, thats a micro USB connector and yes, that thing is freakin small
12:55 <hsn93> cool, whats the dia ?
12:59 <Ysjoelfir> 17mm
13:11 <hsn93> not battery product?
14:32 <Ysjoelfir> it will have a battery. but it'll be a lithium pack that'll be glued to the bottom side, so I didn't add a model for that (couldn't find a 3D render for one either...)
14:38 <hsn93> also whats the wierd part on the other side of the usb ?
15:04 <Ysjoelfir> let me just take a pic of the original thing I'm supposed to remake and shrink
15:32 <Ysjoelfir> that part UNDER the µUSB? or on the same PCB side but on the oppisite side?
15:35 <hsn93> because it has plastic black pin for strengthen the mounting ?
15:53 <Ysjoelfir> ah.
15:59 <Ysjoelfir> no, its not a pin. its a hole in the PCB
16:02 <hsn93> no the under usb i think is tvs
16:08 <Ysjoelfir> its a microphone.
16:46 <Ysjoelfir> the one under the usb is actually a RGB LED. small stuff like passives and protection stuff isn't on there yet
16:59 <Ysjoelfir> I just wanted to see if I even have a remote chance to fit everything they want on that diameter
17:29 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/1rKE47.jpg
17:53 <hsn93> oh ok the tvs is actually rgb
19:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes. and the "?" is a microphone with the mic port to the underside of the PCB
19:32 <Ysjoelfir> which is neccessary in this case as I need to use freakishly small parts. thats the smallest mic I could find
20:06 <hsn93> ah ok its this one then https://audioxpress.com/assets/upload/images/1/20170725181143_MEMSMicrophones-Photo1.jpg
20:55 <Ysjoelfir> simmilar. its the CMM-2718AB
21:48 <hsn93> ah
22:09 <Ysjoelfir> hsn93 - same link as I gave you before. I added two pics of the original device I am supposed to shrink, remake and even add more shit :D
22:41 * Ysjoelfir has to make some breadrolls as SWMBO will get pissed if I don't continue with that now xD
22:43 <Ysjoelfir> back in a minute!
22:57 <hsn93> nice
23:07 <hsn93> ok
23:41 <hsn93> so ur going for chip antenna in ur design as it takes smaller ?
23:47 <hsn93> footprint
24:32 <rust_collector> oh, poor guy, has to make rolls...
30:36 * Ysjoelfir is only back for a second :D
30:45 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll go for a chip antenna, yes
30:53 <Ysjoelfir> haven't decided for one yet, though
30:56 <rust_collector> potato antenna
31:17 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - yes. I hate making rolls. I prefer just shoving shit into the breadmaker and let it do its thing :P
31:30 <Ysjoelfir> but we will have pulled pork this evening, and thats way better on breadrolls than on bread
31:39 <rust_collector> yea, what happened to that thing?
31:58 <Ysjoelfir> which thing?
32:12 <rust_collector> you can make the breadmaker make rolls, partially, I think?
32:27 <Ysjoelfir> yes, you can tell it to do the dough
32:43 <Ysjoelfir> but then I would have to dig in there and get the... the... kneading thing hook out of there
32:55 <Ysjoelfir> can as well just use the handmixer for mixing then
33:56 <rust_collector> the mixing hand
34:09 * Ysjoelfir doesn't like flour on his hands, so... no.
34:54 * Ysjoelfir prefers to use the good old Krups 3Mix https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/162886924741_/KRUPS-3-MIX-3000-Typ-322-mit-Aufsätzen.jpg
35:27 <rust_collector> wow. that is the perfect colour and all
35:32 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
35:38 <Ysjoelfir> and its nearly indestructible
36:22 <Ysjoelfir> you can stall the motor while trying to mix dough thats way to hard - that thing doesn't care, it forces those mixing hooks through there no matter what.
36:50 <rust_collector> so, you can not stall it
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> heh, I knew that that's going to happen. you CAN stall it. but it doesn't care much
37:34 <Ysjoelfir> but its hard to stall
39:01 <Ysjoelfir> its easier to bend the hooks than to stall the motor. its basically a big universal motor driving a worm gear that moves two metal inserts that take up the hooks.
40:23 <rust_collector> right
40:48 * Ysjoelfir is back in the kitchen
41:44 <rust_collector> say hello to honduras
41:44 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
53:07 <Ysjoelfir> The bot did that for you
56:39 <rust_collector> you are the kind of guy that is happy, when large company send you a letter saying: "we are happy you are interested in our blahblah, but please stop annoying us"
56:59 <rust_collector> May not be the exact words
59:43 <Ysjoelfir> basically yes. not particularely happy, but It feels way more satisfying than what happenes now - just no answers at all
01:00 <rust_collector> I mean... you get an automated response, and that is good, but it is not the same as if someone really wrote an answer
01:13 <rust_collector> honduras is not happy
04:57 <Ysjoelfir> thats true
09:26 <rust_collector> so, is there a market for super heavy duty hand mixers?
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10:35 <rust_collector> say you take a 1000w angle grinder, and gear it down to 40rpm...
11:43 <Ysjoelfir> thats a pretty strong mixer :D
11:59 <rust_collector> it should be good for bread
12:16 <Ysjoelfir> true
16:22 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4?
18:08 <T3sl4> kitchenaid isn't as powerful as an angle grinder AFAIK
18:23 <Ysjoelfir> xD
18:23 <T3sl4> it is however much quieter
18:54 <Ysjoelfir> thats not why I pinged you :P Just a short question: have you experience with fiducials smaller than 1mm? is that possible?
18:57 <T3sl4> can't say i'd want to run a universal motor of that size for an extended period of time, for a number of reasons
19:08 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: ask the assembler
19:56 <Ysjoelfir> well. it's not sure who will assemble it yet. so I wanted to know a general idea if smaller fiducials are a thing
22:23 <rust_collector> grandmas old kenwood mixer did sound a lot like a russian tractor transmission, with a bucket of nails in it
29:01 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: can always put em on the panel too
35:04 <Ysjoelfir> thats true. it'll be panelized either way
41:32 <coppice> it will be panelized? no sheet
44:33 <Ysjoelfir> :P
59:30 <T3sl4> coppice: yeah he kind of glassed over that at first
09:21 <Ysjoelfir> what the....
09:26 <Ysjoelfir> created a footprint
09:29 <Ysjoelfir> saved the psblib
09:39 <rust_collector> got a breadroll
09:39 <Ysjoelfir> wanted to use that footprint in the corresponding schlib
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> "footprint not found"
10:03 <Ysjoelfir> deleted the pcblib from the library, reloaded it - footprint not found
10:08 <Ysjoelfir> wtf alrium?
11:25 <Ysjoelfir> closed altium, restarted it, now its suddenly there ._.
12:14 <T3sl4> i was wondering for a moment how to order breadrolls from inside altium
12:24 <Ysjoelfir> just do a manufacturer search
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13:14 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
13:59 <Ampera> Interesting calamity has transpired
14:40 <Ampera> My city has decided 120v ain't cool anymore, so it decided that the grid should run at 80 for a little while
15:16 <Ampera> So I woke up to my aircon shitting its pants trying to start
16:09 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera in an extremely warm and moist way
16:35 * Ampera slobbers all over T3sl4
17:01 <T3sl4> :)
18:49 * Ysjoelfir smacks Ampera's AC
18:52 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ampera :)
18:57 <Watcher> and you ac unit will run on 80 volt?
20:26 <Ampera> No.
21:11 <Ampera> I've shut off the power to the house, as I don't imagine electronics enjoy undervolts like that
22:09 <Watcher> and now you have no power and a warm house?
23:11 <Ampera> Yes.
23:45 <Ampera> Currently 74 with a high of 91 today
25:00 <T3sl4> not to mention the humidity
26:25 <Watcher> i assome that is
26:25 <Watcher> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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26:25 <Watcher> For other uses, see Fahrenheit (disambiguation).
26:25 <Watcher> Fahrenheit
26:25 <Watcher> Raumthermometer Fahrenheit+Celsius.jpg
26:25 <Watcher> Thermometer with Fahrenheit (marked on outer bezel) and Celsius (marked on inner dial) degree units. The Fahrenheit scale was the first standardized temperature scale to be widely used.
26:25 <Watcher> General information
26:25 <Watcher> Unit system Imperial/US customary
26:25 <Watcher> Unit of Temperature
26:25 <Watcher> Symbol °F
26:25 <Watcher> Named after Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit
26:25 <Watcher> Conversions
26:25 <Watcher> x °F in ... ... is equal to ...
26:26 <Watcher> °C 5/9(x − 32)
26:26 <Watcher> The Fahrenheit scale (/ˈfɑːrənhaɪt/) is a temperature scale based on one proposed in 1724 by physicist Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (1686–1736).[1] It uses the degree Fahrenheit (symbol: °F) as the unit. Several accounts of how he originally defined his scale exist. The lower defining point, 0 °F, was established as the freezing temperature of a solut
26:26 <Watcher> ion of brine made from equal parts of ice, water and a salt (ammonium chloride).[2] Further limits were established as the freezing point of water (32 °F) and his best estimate of the average human body temperature (96 °F, about 2.6 °F less than the modern value due to a later redefinition of the scale).[3] The scale is now usually defined by two f
26:26 <Watcher> ixed points: the temperature at which water freezes into ice is defined as 32 °F, and the boiling point of water is defined to be 212 °F, a 180 °F separation, as defined at sea level and standard atmospheric pressure.
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit is the official temperature scale in the United States (including its unincorporated territories), its freely associated states in the Western Pacific (Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia and the Marshall Islands), the Cayman Islands, and Liberia. Antigua and Barbuda and other islands which use the same meteorological service, such
26:26 <Watcher> as Saint Kitts and Nevis, the Bahamas, and Belize, use Fahrenheit and Celsius. All other countries in the world officially now use the Celsius scale, named after Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius. A handful of British Overseas Territories still use Fahrenheit alongside Celsius including the British Virgin Islands, Montserrat, Anguilla, and Bermuda
26:26 <Watcher> .[4]
26:26 <Watcher> Contents
26:26 <Watcher> 1 Definition and conversion
26:26 <Watcher> 2 History
26:26 <Watcher> 3 Usage
26:26 <Watcher> 4 Unicode representation of symbol
26:26 <Watcher> 5 See also
26:26 <Watcher> 6 Notes and references
26:26 <Watcher> 7 External links
26:26 <Watcher> Definition and conversion
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit temperature conversion formulae from Fahrenheit to Fahrenheit
26:26 <Watcher> Celsius [°C] = ([°F] − 32) × ​5⁄9 [°F] = [°C] × ​9⁄5 + 32
26:26 <Watcher> Kelvin [K] = ([°F] + 459.67) × ​5⁄9 [°F] = [K] × ​9⁄5 − 459.67
26:26 <Watcher> Rankine [°R] = [°F] + 459.67 [°F] = [°R] − 459.67
26:26 <Watcher> For temperature intervals rather than specific temperatures,
26:26 <Watcher> 1 °F = 1 °R = ​5⁄9 °C = ​5⁄9 K
26:26 <Watcher> Comparisons among various temperature scales
26:26 <Watcher> On the Fahrenheit scale, the freezing point of water is 32 degrees Fahrenheit (°F) and the boiling point is 212 °F (at standard atmospheric pressure). This puts the boiling and freezing points of water 180 degrees apart.[5] Therefore, a degree on the Fahrenheit scale is ​1⁄180 of the interval between the freezing point and the boiling point. On the
26:26 <Watcher> Celsius scale, the freezing and boiling points of water are 100 degrees apart. A temperature interval of 1 °F is equal to an interval of ​5⁄9 degrees Celsius. The Fahrenheit and Celsius scales intersect at −40° (i.e., −40 °F = −40 °C).
26:26 <Watcher> Absolute zero is −273.15 °C or −459.67 °F. The Rankine temperature scale uses degree intervals of the same size as those of the Fahrenheit scale, except that absolute zero is 0 °R — the same way that the Kelvin temperature scale matches the Celsius scale, except that absolute zero is 0 K.[5]
26:26 <Watcher> The Fahrenheit scale uses the symbol ° to denote a point on the temperature scale (as does Celsius) and the letter F to indicate the use of the Fahrenheit scale (e.g. "Gallium melts at 85.5763 °F"),[6] as well as to denote a difference between temperatures or an uncertainty in temperature (e.g. "The output of the heat exchanger experiences an incre
26:26 <Watcher> ase of 72 °F" and "Our standard uncertainty is ±5 °F").
26:26 <Watcher> For an exact conversion, the following formulas can be applied. Here, f is the value in Fahrenheit and c the value in Celsius:
26:26 <Watcher> f °Fahrenheit to c °Celsius : (f − 32) °F × 5°C/9°F = (f − 32)/1.8 °C = c °C
26:26 <Watcher> c °Celsius to f °Fahrenheit : (c °C × 9°F/5°C) + 32 °F = (c × 1.8) °F + 32 °F = f °F
26:26 <Watcher> This is also an exact conversion making use of the identity −40 °F = −40 °C. Again, f is the value in Fahrenheit and c the value in Celsius:
26:26 <Watcher> f °Fahrenheit to c °Celsius : ((f + 40) ÷ 1.8) − 40 = c.
26:26 <Watcher> c °Celsius to f °Fahrenheit : ((c + 40) × 1.8) − 40 = f.
26:26 <Watcher> History
26:26 <Watcher> Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, a pioneer of exact thermometry (temperature measurement). He invented the mercury thermometer (first practical, accurate thermometer) and Fahrenheit scale (first widely used, standardized temperature scale).
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit proposed his temperature scale in 1724, basing it on two reference points of temperature. In his initial scale (which is not the final Fahrenheit scale), the zero point was determined by placing the thermometer in a mixture "of ice, of water, and of ammonium chloride (salis Armoniaci)[7] or even of sea salt". This combination forms a eut
26:26 <Watcher> ectic system which stabilizes its temperature automatically: 0 °F was defined to be that stable temperature. The second point, 96 degrees, was approximately the human body's temperature (sanguine hominis sani, the blood of a healthy man).[8]
26:26 <Watcher> According to a German story, Fahrenheit actually chose the lowest air temperature measured in his hometown Danzig (Gdańsk, Poland) in winter 1708/09 as 0 °F, and only later had the need to be able to make this value reproducible using brine.[9]
26:26 <Watcher> According to a letter Fahrenheit wrote to his friend Herman Boerhaave,[10] his scale was built on the work of Ole Rømer, whom he had met earlier. In Rømer's scale, brine freezes at zero, water freezes and melts at 7.5 degrees, body temperature is 22.5, and water boils at 60 degrees. Fahrenheit multiplied each value by four in order to eliminate fra
26:26 <Watcher> ctions and make the scale more fine-grained. He then re-calibrated his scale using the melting point of ice and normal human body temperature (which were at 30 and 90 degrees); he adjusted the scale so that the melting point of ice would be 32 degrees and body temperature 96 degrees, so that 64 intervals would separate the two, allowing him to mark
26:26 <Watcher> degree lines on his instruments by simply bisecting the interval six times (since 64 is 2 to the sixth power).[11][12]
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit soon after observed that water boils at about 212 degrees using this scale.[13] The use of the freezing and boiling points of water as thermometer fixed reference points became popular following the work of Anders Celsius and these fixed points were adopted by a committee of the Royal Society led by Henry Cavendish in 1776.[14] Under thi
26:26 <Watcher> s system, the Fahrenheit scale is redefined slightly so that the freezing point of water is exactly 32 °F, and the boiling point is exactly 212 °F or 180 degrees higher. It is for this reason that normal human body temperature is approximately 98.6° (oral temperature) on the revised scale (whereas it was 90° on Fahrenheit's multiplication of Rømer,
26:26 <Watcher> and 96° on his original scale).[15]
26:26 <Watcher> In the present-day Fahrenheit scale, 0 °F no longer corresponds to the eutectic temperature of ammonium chloride brine as described above. Instead, that eutectic is at approximately 4 °F on the final Fahrenheit scale.[16]
26:26 <Watcher> The Rankine temperature scale was based upon the Fahrenheit temperature scale, with its zero representing absolute zero instead.
26:26 <Watcher> Usage
26:26 <Watcher> Countries that use Fahrenheit (°F).
26:26 <Watcher> Countries that use Celsius (°C).
26:26 <Watcher> Thermometer CF.svg
26:26 <Watcher> The Fahrenheit scale was the primary temperature standard for climatic, industrial and medical purposes in English-speaking countries until the 1960s. In the late 1960s and 1970s, the Celsius scale replaced Fahrenheit in almost all of those countries—with the notable exception of the United States—typically during their general metrication process.
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit is used in the United States, its territories and associated states (all served by the U.S. National Weather Service), as well as the Cayman Islands and Liberia for everyday applications. For example, U.S. weather forecasts, food cooking, and freezing temperatures are typically given in degrees Fahrenheit. Scientists, such as meteorologi
26:26 <Watcher> sts, use degrees Celsius or kelvin in all countries.[17]
26:26 <Watcher> Early in the 20th century, Halsey and Dale suggested that the resistance to the use of centigrade (now Celsius) system in the U.S. included the larger size of each degree Celsius and the lower zero point in the Fahrenheit system.[18]
26:26 <Watcher> Canada has passed legislation favoring the International System of Units, while also maintaining legal definitions for traditional Canadian imperial units.[19] Canadian weather reports are conveyed using degrees Celsius with occasional reference to Fahrenheit especially for cross-border broadcasts. Fahrenheit is still used on virtually all Canadian
26:26 <Watcher> ovens,[20] Thermometers, both digital and analog, sold in Canada usually employ both the Celsius and Fahrenheit scales.[21][22][23]
26:26 <Watcher> European laundry symbol for "Wash at 40 °C"
26:26 <Watcher> In the European Union, it is mandatory to use kelvins or degrees Celsius when quoting temperature for "economic, public health, public safety and administrative" purposes, though degrees Fahrenheit may be used alongside degrees Celsius as a supplementary unit.[24] For example, the laundry symbols used in the United Kingdom follow the recommendation
26:26 <Watcher> s of ISO 3758:2005 showing the temperature of the washing machine water in degrees Celsius only.[25] The equivalent label in North America uses one to six dots to denote temperature with an optional temperature in degrees Celsius.[26][27]
26:26 <Watcher> Within the unregulated sector, such as journalism, the use of Fahrenheit in the United Kingdom follows no fixed pattern with degrees Fahrenheit often appearing alongside degrees Celsius. The Daily Mail, on its daily weather page, quotes Celsius first, followed by Fahrenheit in brackets,[28] The Daily Telegraph does not mention Fahrenheit on its dai
26:26 <Watcher> ly weather page[29] while The Times also has an all-metric daily weather page but has a Celsius-to-Fahrenheit conversion table.[30] When publishing news stories, much of the UK press have adopted a tendency of using degrees Celsius in headlines and discussion relating to low temperatures and Fahrenheit for high temperatures.[31][discuss] In Februar
26:26 <Watcher> y 2006, the writer of an article in The Times suggested that the rationale was one of emphasis: "−6 °C" sounds colder than "21 °F" and "94 °F" sounds more impressive than "34 °C".[32]
26:26 <Watcher> Unicode representation of symbol
26:26 <Watcher> Unicode provides the Fahrenheit symbol at code point U+2109 ℉ DEGREE FAHRENHEIT. However, this is a compatibility character encoded for roundtrip compatibility with legacy encodings. The Unicode standard explicitly discourages the use of this character: "The sequence U+00B0 ° DEGREE SIGN +U+0046 F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F is preferred over U+2109 ℉ D
26:26 <Watcher> EGREE FAHRENHEIT, and those two sequences should be treated as identical for searching."[33]
26:26 <Watcher> See also
26:26 <Watcher> iconEnergy portal
26:26 <Watcher> Comparison of temperature scales
26:26 <Watcher> Degree of frost
26:26 <Watcher> Notes and references
26:26 <Watcher> Robert T. Balmer (2010). Modern Engineering Thermodynamics. Academic Press. p. 9. ISBN 978-0-12-374996-3. Retrieved 17 July 2011.
26:26 <Watcher> "Fahrenheit: Facts, History & Conversion Formulas". Live Science. Retrieved 9 February 2018.
26:26 <Watcher> Fahrenheit temperature scale, Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 25 September 2015
26:26 <Watcher> http://metricviews.org.uk/2012/10/50-years-of-celsius-weather-forecasts-%E2%80%93-time-to-kill-off-fahrenheit-for-good/
26:26 <Watcher> Walt Boyes (2009). Instrumentation Reference Book. Butterworth-Heinemann. pp. 273–274. ISBN 978-0-7506-8308-1. Retrieved 17 July 2011.
26:26 <Watcher> Preston–Thomas, H. (1990). "The International Temperature Scale of 1990 (ITS-90)" (PDF). Metrologia. 27 (1): 6. Bibcode:1990Metro..27....3P. doi:10.1088/0026-1394/27/1/002. Retrieved 17 July 2011.
26:26 <Watcher> "Sal Armoniac" was an impure form of ammonium chloride. The French chemist Nicolas Lémery (1645–1715) discussed it in his book Cours de Chymie (A Course of Chemistry, 1675), describing where it occurs naturally and how it can be prepared artificially. It occurs naturally in the deserts of northern Africa, where it forms from puddles of animal urine
26:26 <Watcher> . It can be prepared artificially by boiling 5 parts of urine, 1 part of sea salt, and ½ part of chimney soot until the mixture has dried. The mixture is then heated in a sublimation pot until it sublimates ; the sublimated crystals are sal Armoniac. See:
26:27 <Watcher> Nicolas Lémery, Cours de chymie … , 7th ed. (Paris, France: Estienne Michallet, 1688), Chapitre XVII: du Sel Armoniac, pp. 338–339.
26:27 <Watcher> English translation: Nicolas Lémery with James Keill, trans., A Course of Chymistry … , 3rd ed. (London, England: Walter Kettilby, 1698), Chap. XVII: of Sal Armoniack, p. 383. Available on-line at: Heinrich Heine University (Düsseldorf, Germany)
26:27 <Watcher> Fahrenheit, Daniele Gabr. (1724) Experimenta & observationes de congelatione aquæ in vacuo factæ a D. G. Fahrenheit, R. S. S (Experiments and observations on water freezing in the void by D. G. Fahrenheit, R. S. S.), Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, vol. 33, no. 382, page 78 (March–April 1724). Cited and translated in http
26:27 <Watcher> ://www.sizes.com:80/units/temperature_Fahrenheit.htm
26:27 <Watcher> "Wetterlexikon - Lufttemperatur" (in German). Deutscher Wetterdienst. Archived from the original on 15 October 2013. Retrieved 13 December 2013.
26:27 <Watcher> Ernst Cohen and W.A.T. Cohen-De Meester. Chemisch Weekblad, volume 33 (1936), pages 374–393, cited and translated in http://www.sizes.com:80/units/temperature_Fahrenheit.htm
26:27 <Watcher> Frautschi, Steven C.; Richard P. Olenick; Tom M. Apostol; David L. Goodstein (14 January 2008). The mechanical universe: mechanics and heat. Cambridge University Press. p. 502. ISBN 978-0-521-71590-4.
26:27 <Watcher> Cecil Adams (15 December 1989). "On the Fahrenheit scale, do 0 and 100 have any special significance?". The Straight Dope.
26:27 <Watcher> Fahrenheit, Daniele Gabr. (1724) "Experimenta circa gradum caloris liquorum nonnullorum ebullientium instituta" Archived 29 June 2014 at the Wayback Machine (Experiments performed concerning the degree of heat of some boiling liquids), Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, 33 : 1–3. For an English translation, see: Le Moyne Col
26:27 <Watcher> lege (Syracuse, New York)
26:27 <Watcher> Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress, pp. 8–11, Oxford University Press, 2004 ISBN 0198038240.
26:27 <Watcher> Elert, Glenn; Forsberg, C; Wahren, LK (2002). "Temperature of a Healthy Human (Body Temperature)". Scandinavian Journal of Caring Sciences. 16 (2): 122–8. doi:10.1046/j.1471-6712.2002.00069.x. PMID 12000664. Archived from the original on 26 September 2010. Retrieved 12 April 2008.
26:27 <Watcher> Eutectic temperature of ammonium chloride and water is listed as −15.9 °C (3.38 °F) and as −15.4 °C (4.28 °F) in (respectively)
26:27 <Watcher> Peppin SS, Huppert HE, Worster MG (2008). "Steady-state solidification of aqueous ammonium chloride" (PDF). J. Fluid Mech. Cambridge University Press. 599: 472 (table 1). doi:10.1017/S0022112008000219.
26:27 <Watcher> Barman N, Nayak AK, Chattopadhyay H (2014). "Solidification of a Binary Solution (NH4Cl+H2O) on an Inclined Cooling Plate: A Parametric Study" (PDF). Procedia Materials Science. 5: 456 (table 1). doi:10.1016/j.mspro.2014.07.288.
26:27 <Watcher> "782 - Aerodrome reports and forecasts: A user's handbook to the codes". World Meteorological Organization. Retrieved 23 September 2009.
26:27 <Watcher> Halsey, Frederick A., Dale, Samuel S. (1919). The metric fallacy (2 ed.). The American Institute of Weights and Measures. pp. 165–166, 176–177. Retrieved 19 May 2009.
26:27 <Watcher> "Canadian Units of Measurement; Department of Justice, Weights and Measures Act (R.S.C., 1985, c. W-6)". 17 May 2011. Archived from the original on 13 May 2011. Retrieved 5 June 2011.
26:27 <Watcher> Pearlstein, Steven (4 June 2000). "Did Canada go metric? Yes - and no". The Seattle Times. Retrieved 5 June 2011.
26:27 <Watcher> "Example of analog thermometer frequently used in Canada". Archived from the original on 6 July 2011. Retrieved 6 June 2011.
26:27 <Watcher> "Example of digital thermometer frequently used in Canada". Archived from the original on 6 July 2011. Retrieved 6 June 2011.
26:27 <Watcher> Department of Justice (26 February 2009). "Canadian Weights and Measures Act". Federal Government of Canada. Archived from the original on 10 August 2011. Retrieved 17 July 2011.
26:27 <Watcher> Statutory Instrument 2009/3046 - Weights and Measures - The Units of Measurement Regulations 2009 (PDF), archived from the original (PDF) on 1 January 2017, ""The Secretary of State, being a Minister designated(a) for the purposes of section 2(2) of the European Communities Act 1972(b) in relation to units of measurement to be used for economic, he
26:27 <Watcher> alth, safety, or administrative purposes, in exercise of the powers conferred by that subsection, makes the following Regulations:"
26:27 <Watcher> "Home Laundering Consultative Council - What Symbols Mean". Home Laundering Consultative Council. Retrieved 15 July 2013.
26:27 <Watcher> "Guide to Common Home Laundering & Drycleaning Symbols". Textile Industry Affairs. 2010. Retrieved 15 July 2013.
26:27 <Watcher> "Guide to Apparel and Textile Care Symbols". Office of Consumer Affairs, Government of Canada. 17 April 2003. Retrieved 15 July 2013.
26:27 <Watcher> "Weather". The Daily Mail. 3 July 2013. p. 3.
26:27 <Watcher> "Weather". The Daily Telegraph. 3 July 2013. p. 31.
26:27 <Watcher> "Weather". The Times. 3 July 2013. p. 55.
26:27 <Watcher> Roy Greenslade (29 May 2014). "Newspapers run hot and cold over Celsius and Fahrenheit". The Guardian.
26:27 <Watcher> "Measure for measure". The Times. Times Newspapers. 23 February 2006.
26:27 <Watcher> "22.2". The Unicode Standard, Version 8.0 (PDF). Mountain View, CA, USA: The Unicode Consortium. August 2015. ISBN 978-1-936213-10-8. Retrieved 6 September 2015.
26:27 <Watcher> External links
26:27 <Watcher> Look up fahrenheit in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
26:27 <Watcher> Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (Polish-born Dutch physicist) – Encyclopædia Britannica
26:27 <Watcher> "At Auction | One of Only Three Original Fahrenheit Thermometers" Enfilade page for 2012 Christie's sale of a Fahrenheit mercury thermometer with some nice pictures
26:27 <Watcher> Christie's press release
26:27 <Watcher> "SI Units - Temperature". nist.gov. National Institute of Standards and Technology (US Department of Commerce). 15 November 2019. Retrieved 25 February 2020.
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26:27 <Watcher> i assume that that it is in Fahrenheit?
26:53 <rust_collector> eh?
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27:30 <Ampera> what the actual fuck
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28:40 <Watcher> my chat just crashes
29:17 <Ampera> Probably because you put over 150 lines of fucking wikipedia into the chat
29:40 <rust_collector> your chat crashing should not post 2 pages of stuff, lol
30:06 <Watcher> and 71 degrees Fahrenheit is not so much. why do you need a ac unit for that?
30:37 <Ampera> Because it's A. 74, and B. going to be 91 later
31:05 <rust_collector> I wonder what it is that made the voltage drop like that
31:40 <Watcher> sorry that i copyed the whole article it mustbe only the title for the correct spelling
33:14 <Watcher> 91 that is not comfortable
33:20 <Ampera> Maybe a phase converter lost one of its phases or something
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51:47 * hsn93 spreads ozone o3 all over the place
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53:10 * Ysjoelfir hands ampera some volts
53:26 <Ysjoelfir> we have around 240 atm, so I can spare to gift you some
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54:52 <hsn93> 240 automated teller machines wow
55:01 <hsn93> buy ur own spot !
55:24 <hsn93> :P
56:23 <Ysjoelfir> xD
00:06 <rust_collector> that is where it went...
00:23 <rust_collector> we are at 231
05:56 <T3sl4> CRiMe In PrOgreSs cAugHT on TApE https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegallySmolCats/comments/hd1l85/18_days_old_today/
06:55 <rust_collector> that is pure evil in a box
07:38 <hsn93> t3sl4, i can see (the ugly, the bad, and the cut) ..
08:36 <hsn93> the cute*
10:39 <Ysjoelfir> xD how cute
11:14 <rust_collector> 666 cuteness
16:09 * Ysjoelfir needs a suggestion for a good windows terminal program. meaning one where I can send commands over RS232 to something.
16:32 <T3sl4> putty
16:33 * Ysjoelfir used PuTTY before
16:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol
16:42 <Ysjoelfir> ok, them I'm already good to go I guess
17:04 <T3sl4> i slightly prefer hyperterm, because i'm old and dumb
17:21 <Ysjoelfir> how old are you?
17:59 <rust_collector> 51
19:43 <T3sl4> 665
20:43 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/wgrw310zv5651.jpg
20:54 <Ysjoelfir> XD
22:11 * Ysjoelfir has to activate RS232 in the BIOS... brb
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49:19 <Ysjoelfir> I
49:20 <Ysjoelfir> hate
49:23 <Ysjoelfir> RS232 ._.
49:55 <Ysjoelfir> connecting everything, opening Putty, connect - nothing. just a square. great.
52:20 <rust_collector> what did you expect to see?
52:28 <rust_collector> a circle?
52:45 <Ysjoelfir> well, it would be nice to get any kind of reaction from the device I'm connecting to? :D
53:03 <rust_collector> sure, what are you connecting to?
53:11 <Ysjoelfir> a power analyzer
53:49 <rust_collector> that you know will respond in some way?
53:57 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
54:09 <Ysjoelfir> if I send it sn it should report back its serial number
54:18 <rust_collector> ok.
59:28 <rust_collector> so, how about that hyperterm thing?
59:41 <rust_collector> are you on w10?
59:48 <Ysjoelfir> yep
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