// #d&d — 2013-06-28
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00:01:10 <Goya> I thought I might try to roll a second character before I leave so I have a fallback. I'm not up to concept characters yet though..
00:12:49 <Goya> Zen Archer looks kinda neat though..
00:15:14 <Blasticka> well let me know if anyone is going to organize a game for level 1 or 2's. we are available. (me and allengirl that is)
00:28:47 <Goya> I suppose I should head out for now and get to bed. Take care guys - and thanks for the help! =)
01:59:44 <Steven> sup
02:02:34 <Blasticka> heya Steven
02:10:54 <Steven> 92 tables of credit
02:11:14 <Blasticka> whazzat mean, you can level up characters for free or something?
02:11:16 <Steven> im like 4 shy of where i want to be
02:11:28 <Blasticka> oooh so we have to run an adventure or 3
02:11:43 <Blasticka> we just need one more player if you want to run one in like an hour
02:12:45 <Steven> no
02:12:53 <Steven> my migraine is currently raging.
02:16:18 <Blasticka> aww. that's not good I'm sorry man
02:16:45 <Blasticka> probably shouldn't be on the computer that usually makes things worse. maybe put on some soothing music and take a nap? in a dark room?
02:18:56 <Steven> nah
02:19:06 <Steven> damned if i do damned if i dont
02:19:11 <Steven> so i might as well enjoy myself
02:24:31 <Blasticka> ooh I know. what about a cold compress on your neck and back of the head?
02:24:38 <Blasticka> does cold help?
02:38:43 <Steven> meh
02:39:09 <Steven> what helps the most is meds i cant afford
02:40:43 <Steven> anyways... gonna take some IBproferens
02:40:50 <Steven> like... a handfull of them lol
02:42:33 <Steven> so bought an avacyn restored pack
02:42:38 <Steven> tonight
02:42:41 <Steven> cavern of souls
02:43:07 <Steven> like 20 bucks
02:43:49 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 6th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
02:43:49 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jun 24 07:02:15 2013
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02:44:22 <Steven> cant be displeased bout htat
03:03:19 <Blasticka> ah I used to play magic the gathering
03:03:25 <Blasticka> I had a white red deck
03:03:35 <Blasticka> lots of hell riders and such
03:04:01 <Blasticka> and the cool dragon that taps flyers and has hast for 5 damage. had 2 of them.
03:04:13 <Blasticka> *haste
03:06:49 <Steven> havent played standard in a long ass time
03:06:53 <Steven> I'm an EDH guy
03:14:48 <Steven> almost ready for the sleep!
03:15:53 <Steven> i feel myself gettin tired.
03:24:04 <Steven> HOLY BALLS HEADACHE EBBING!
03:39:36 <Blasticka> tha'ts wonderful congratulations!
03:39:51 <Blasticka> Kyra's bless spell must have finally kicked in
03:46:28 <Mekkis> I expect Ballig to disappear now.
03:53:45 <Blasticka> hmm?
03:53:48 <Blasticka> why is that?
03:56:53 <Steven> ahhhhhh yeah
03:57:19 <Steven> headache gone, ate some food... feelin decent
04:02:25 <Blasticka> still gonna go to sleep now?
04:02:55 <Steven> feelin like a yes...
04:03:03 <Steven> unless we got something cooler to do
04:03:29 <Blasticka> well, it's 5:30 here, we have time for a game but would need at least one more player. and I don't want to make your migraine come back lol
04:03:43 <Steven> nah, its gone
04:03:55 <Blasticka> sweeeet that's great man
04:04:52 <Steven> it ebbed and then the pills kicked in, and now im sittin pretty
04:06:01 <Blasticka> ooh avatar is here
04:06:09 <Steven> oh shit time to run!
04:06:11 <Blasticka> avatar want to play a level 2 something?
04:06:17 <Blasticka> or mekkis?
04:06:35 <Blasticka> or brunius lurking in the shadows?
04:07:25 <Blasticka> I'll be back in 30 minutes. hopefully we'll have a third player by then. :-)
04:07:59 <Avatar> it's a school night for me
04:08:23 <Steven> yeah its like thursday 6pm?
04:08:23 <Avatar> schedule a game tomorrow night
04:08:26 <Steven> or is it 7
04:08:29 <Avatar> 6
04:08:48 <Steven> tomorrow its RotRL
04:08:58 <Avatar> saturday then
04:09:09 <Steven> hangin with my mom!
04:09:18 <Steven> oh you mean your saturday
04:09:26 <Avatar> yeah as in 2 days from today
04:09:30 <Avatar> or 1 day
04:09:47 <Steven> lets see....
04:09:48 <Avatar> tomorrow night as in 24 hours from now
04:09:50 <Steven> friday night....
04:10:49 <Steven> hrmmmm
04:10:59 <Steven> sure....
04:11:17 <Avatar> what scenario
04:11:26 * Steven shrugs
04:11:34 <Avatar> alright hang on
04:11:38 <Steven> lets see
04:11:41 <Steven> what there is to play
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04:12:23 <Avatar> maybe among the living
04:12:27 <Avatar> kapow will never run it
04:12:47 <Avatar> or murder on the silken caravan
04:13:14 <Steven> the Dalsine Affair!
04:13:24 <Avatar> that will likely be the last scenario I ever play
04:13:31 <Avatar> how about devil we know 3
04:13:40 <Avatar> or god's market gamble
04:13:52 <Steven> oh come on, even i've played the dalsine affair
04:14:01 <Avatar> oh yeah even you've played it
04:14:13 <Avatar> cyphermage dilemma
04:14:17 <Steven> and i knew what happened before i played.
04:14:20 <Avatar> any of those take your fancy?
04:15:09 <Steven> meh...
04:15:38 <Avatar> black waters
04:15:49 <Avatar> night march of kalamedes
04:15:55 <Avatar> cyphermage dilemma
04:16:04 <Avatar> running out of options here
04:16:11 <Avatar> devil we know 4
04:16:55 <Avatar> they're the only 1-7s I can play
04:18:17 <Avatar> god's market gamble seems like your best bet
04:18:23 <Avatar> or murder on the silken caravan
04:18:34 <Avatar> unless you don't want to prep something new
04:18:51 <Mekkis> haven't you played cyphermage yet, Avatar?
04:18:53 <Avatar> if that's the case, cyphermage
04:18:58 <Avatar> don't think so
04:19:51 <Avatar> nope
04:20:04 <Avatar> alright let me know when you've made a choice, I'm going to play unepic
04:20:40 <Steven> alright... sure cyphermage
04:20:55 <Avatar> 24 hours?
04:20:59 <Avatar> -20 minutes
04:22:31 <Steven> no that would be my friday 1am
04:23:07 <Steven> 41 hours from now
04:25:14 <Avatar> if it's 6pm here, what time is it 41 hours
04:25:57 <Steven> noonish on saturday i think?
04:26:06 <Avatar> is that when you want me to schedule it
04:26:07 <Avatar> noonish
04:26:26 <Steven> sure, lets see when that is for me
04:27:23 <Avatar> just give me a time in GMT
04:27:26 <Avatar> I will adjust it from there
04:28:58 <Steven> 2 days from now, minus 7 hours
04:29:24 <Avatar> 11am GMT+10 I believe that is
04:29:33 <Steven> hell if i know
04:31:46 <Forevernade> are there any other game system irc channels besides dnd?
04:32:26 <Avatar> we play pathfinder, not d&d
04:38:17 <Steven> and yes there is
04:38:33 <Steven> darkness is pretty popular
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05:00:28 <Blasticka> greetings boris
05:00:59 <Blasticka> I still remember golden eye and the boss boris yeltsiv or something like that.
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06:00:06 <Blasticka> Steven are you around?
06:49:28 <Yiroep> *Dances*
06:49:44 <Yiroep> !throw Perform(Dance) 1d20
06:49:53 <Yiroep> :(
07:02:29 <Ballig> !roll 1d20 perform
07:02:29 <dicebot> Ballig, perform: [1d20=17] 17
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07:11:36 <Yiroep> !roll 1d20 Perform(Dance)
07:11:36 <dicebot> Yiroep, Perform(Dance): [1d20=9] 9
07:11:44 <Yiroep> Should have taken 10.
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07:29:40 <Steven> today just sucks dick...
07:33:12 <Avatar> anyone got a copy of ultimate campaign handy
07:39:23 <Yiroep> This whole week sucked for me.
07:39:33 <Steven> i hear ya yiroep
07:44:21 <Avatar> does blasticka not want to play tonight
07:44:42 <Avatar> not tonight, tomorrow
07:51:18 * Steven shrugs
08:00:27 <Mekkis> I sent yolu the link
08:27:25 <Steven> think imma take a nap
08:43:35 <Yiroep> I'm so sad about the "baleful polymorph" doesn't carry over news.
08:44:30 <Yiroep> My plans to have a summoner who's a bunny the whole time because his eidolon convinced him it's a good idea to stay that way plans are ruined.
08:44:32 <Yiroep> But it's ok.
08:45:16 <Mekkis> just cast it at the start of each scenario, on the previous day
08:49:44 <Yiroep> That's not exactly a spell that you get access to early. :p
08:49:57 <Mekkis> it's on the summoner list
08:50:06 <Mekkis> you get it at 10th level
08:50:14 <Yiroep> "get access to early."
08:50:18 <Mekkis> oh
08:50:41 <Yiroep> My plan was to GM credit once and then buy the spellcasting service for baleful polymorph, LOL.
08:51:03 <Yiroep> Although I'd probably do it a few times.
08:51:14 <Yiroep> Just in case I fail the will save.....I wanna make that one...
08:52:07 <Yiroep> DC 17? Yeah that's pretty rough at level 1.
08:52:40 <Mekkis> play a wizard, call your familiar an "eidolon"
08:53:05 <Yiroep> Part of the fun would be that I wouldn't tell people.
08:53:14 <Yiroep> Like, the eidolon is my character.
08:53:22 <Yiroep> And if he ever died, he would disappear, would be hilarious.
08:53:35 <Mekkis> ah
08:53:41 <Mekkis> problem there being
08:53:51 <Mekkis> your eidolon is clearly not natural
08:53:57 <Yiroep> Yeah, I know.
08:54:58 <Yiroep> Anyway, I was just trying to make a summoner that wasn't the usual "min-max" summoner.
08:55:07 <Yiroep> I'm not a big fan of the class as is so I wanted to do something cool with it.
08:56:31 <Yiroep> I may try my double-archer or double-caster build though.
08:56:39 <Yiroep> (Probably caster....I don't want another archer)
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09:02:06 <Yiroep> Yeah....skill focus (UMD), skilled (UMD), 1 rank, +3 class bonus, ability (charisma)...could have +16 UMD at level 1 for the eidolon...could be fun.
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09:14:44 <Yiroep> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pwey?Welcome-to-new-Online-Play-VC#8
09:15:00 <Yiroep> Online play VC, but he doesn't know about the collective......
09:18:08 <Goya> I don't know how the whole VC thing works - but I would think more than one VC would be appropriate...
09:18:53 <Yiroep> I would have expected one of the GMs who runs tons of online games from the collective to be perfect for the job.
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09:19:23 <Yiroep> VCs basically organize conventions and settle disputes and such....that's what our local VCs do anyway.
09:19:30 <Yiroep> Online it will most certainly work vastly different.
09:20:38 <Goya> *nods* I thought maybe they had to audit all the games or something.
09:20:57 <Yiroep> I can only speak locally as this is a new thing.
09:21:08 <Yiroep> But they make sure gamedays happen and people are happy...introduce new players, stuff like that.
09:21:51 <Goya> Hrm. Still seems like a LOT of work for one person... I mean Warhorn and Roll20 alone have dozens of games per week. Let alone the play-by-forums and all the OTHER online VTTs and groups.
09:22:05 <Yiroep> It's actually a lot of work from what I've seen...at least in Georgia. But Georgia has one of the biggest communities.
09:22:08 <Yiroep> It does.
09:22:27 <Yiroep> They will, pretty quickly, probably annoint VLs...hopefully people from the collective.
09:24:00 <Goya> It does seem odd the Internet Czar VC doesn't know about the Google Group... =/
09:24:16 <Goya> NOT that I participate - but I've seen it in passing.
09:24:51 <Yiroep> He will probably post something soon.
09:24:55 <Yiroep> I wonder how people will react.
09:25:38 <Yiroep> (BTW, I actually know the guy, since he was a VL from Georgia)
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10:05:19 <Goya> Hrmm.. I wonder how work-able an Elven Zen Archer is..
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11:53:19 <Steven> what up yo.
11:59:33 <Mekkis> moin moin
12:16:38 <Goya> Hrm.. 14 / 15 / 11 / 10 / 18 / 7 - for Zen Archer (Monk)?
12:17:44 <Goya> Wis seems high when I can potentially spread it out over DEX/STR/CON...
12:18:08 <Goya> BUT - seems like WIS takes precedence later in life..
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12:32:01 <HTT-Bird> o/ Blasticka
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12:38:32 <Steven> chillin down at the shop, waiting for people to show up for homebrew
12:39:24 <Mekkis> I suggest we run a game on USENET. Anyone up for it?
12:39:33 <Wrothmonk> USENET?
12:40:19 <Wrothmonk> how so?
12:40:31 <Goya> Most folks don't have access to that anymore..
12:41:41 <Goya> Takes up too much space and bandwidth since the alt.binaries.* took over.
12:41:48 <Mekkis> not really
12:42:00 <Mekkis> there are still free newsservers out there
12:42:05 <HTT-Bird> Goya: yeah. ISPs tend to be grumpy about newsgroup access
12:42:05 <HTT-Bird> at least, that's how I understand it
12:42:05 <Goya> True.
12:42:50 <Mekkis> we should come up with stranger and stranger methods of running stuff to annoy our new VC
12:43:04 <Goya> I don't know of any mainstream providers who have usenet anymore.. Free providers are an option.. But - you might as well create a forum. More organized.
12:43:05 <Wrothmonk> new VC
12:43:06 <Wrothmonk> ?
12:43:23 <Wrothmonk> what have I missed?
12:43:30 <HTT-Bird> VC?
12:43:31 <Goya> The new Online Czar VC doesn't know about the Google Group yet apparently...
12:43:56 <Goya> Paizo (or whomever) appointed a VC for 'online play'.
12:44:06 <Mekkis> fyi, google groups are a hack of USENET
12:44:11 <Wrothmonk> Ah I heard about that.
12:44:24 <Goya> Probably a good chap - but he wasn't even aware of the Pathfinder Google Group.
12:44:37 <Mekkis> (you can access real USENET groups from google groups)
12:44:41 <Steven> joe is a pretty fun guy.
12:45:12 <Mekkis> how does he react to cheaters?
12:46:03 <Steven> how would i know, go ask him.
12:46:10 <HTT-Bird> VC? (could someone explain what that stands for please?)
12:46:16 <Wrothmonk> venture captain.
12:46:22 <Mekkis> venture capitalist
12:46:27 <Goya> I wouldn't call GG a 'hack' of Usenet - but it certainly 'adopted' Usenet. ;)
12:46:29 <Wrothmonk> I'm not exactly clear on the entire concept.
12:47:52 <Goya> GG doesn't support NNTP or UUCP (that I'm aware of).
12:48:11 <Mekkis> they took USENET, a decentralised, open and low-bandwidth client-agnostic protocol, wrapped it in HTML, javascript, and heaps of processor-intensive and bandwidth intensive shit, and called it google groups
12:48:33 <Mekkis> then they ensured that data only flows one way
12:49:36 <Goya> They created a 'portal' from the Usenet assets they aquired - and yes - I suppose they did base GG around that asset. I concede that.
12:50:06 <Goya> I suppose a 'hack' isn't far off from the truth..
12:50:42 <HTT-Bird> GG isn't the only game in town for web-newsgroup interfacing...what about GMane?
12:50:46 <Mekkis> oh, and they try their utmost hardest to remove anonymity in the name of marketing and advertising
12:50:59 <HTT-Bird> (I will admit to having used the GMane loom before)
12:50:59 <Goya> The fact they walled off the 'flow' and 'portalized' it makes it far more 'narrow' in scope than the 'old' usenet.
12:51:22 <Mekkis> hack.
12:51:45 <Goya> *nods* I suppose you're right - though I never considered it as such.
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12:53:12 <Wrothmonk> Evenin' Falang.
12:53:24 <Mekkis> like what MSN did to IRC, facebook did to email, and netflix is doing to bittorrent
12:53:27 <Goya> I always saw the adoption of usenet as a way for GG to have 'instant content' without regard to adoption.
12:53:47 <HTT-Bird> on an unrelated note: the ATSB released their final report on the Qantas Flight 32 accident
12:54:01 <Falang> Greetings.
12:54:15 <Mekkis> what accident?
12:54:35 <Falang> Wroth: Oh NOW you say hi. :P
12:54:41 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, btw...people don't distinguish between BitTorrent-the-protocol and all the stuff that was created aroundit
12:54:52 <Wrothmonk> Hrm?
12:54:56 <HTT-Bird> BitTorrent-the-protocol is merely a generic data pipe, after all
12:55:02 <Falang> I just sent you a message on Steam and you popped offline
12:55:21 <Goya> Erm.. ICQ was prior to MSN - though it waned in popularity.. I would suggest TXT messaging supplanted email more than Facebook - and Netflix uses CDNs (which are somewhat different than bittorrent - though admittedly de-centralized).
12:55:21 <Falang> Very rude, I'm drafting an email to your parents as we speak.
12:55:25 <Wrothmonk> Ah, steam is fickle for me. You must have caught me as I was going offline.
12:55:27 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, the Qantas A380 that blew an engine climbing out of Singapore back in 2010
12:56:22 <Wrothmonk> However when steam takes like 5 seconds to recognize the fact that I quit, it keeps my account online :/
12:58:28 <Mekkis> I'm referring to the fact that proprietry, inefficient applications are displacing existing, open, efficient ones
12:58:44 <Goya> True.
12:59:12 <HTT-Bird> well, it's only relatively recently that a potential successor to IRC has emerged (i.e. XMPP)
12:59:15 <Mekkis> UDP streaming, like netflix, is much less efficient and more latency-intolerent that something like bittorrrnt
12:59:38 <HTT-Bird> HOWEVER: all my XMPP experience is with non-public-access setups
13:00:22 <Mekkis> most of the other examples can be summarised as "everything over http using MY server, so I own your data"
13:00:39 <Mekkis> and my ad revenue
13:00:47 <HTT-Bird> partly because nobody wants to faff with a custom client+protocol any longer
13:01:12 <HTT-Bird> partly because they 1) want to be convenient to a non-technically-inclined end user
13:01:55 <Mekkis> of course, because they have a commercial interest in doing so
13:02:02 <HTT-Bird> and 2) because of paranoia over anything that isn't a) talking to a "well known host" like an external facing server and b) isn't on port 80 or 443
13:02:19 <HTT-Bird> which predated the Big Advertising Internet
13:02:26 <HTT-Bird> at least AIUI
13:02:55 <Mekkis> partly it's because NATs are to blame
13:03:29 <Mekkis> each IP packet has a protocol field. it's one byte
13:04:03 <Mekkis> out of the protocols available, three, maybe four, are used.
13:04:57 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, agreed, massive NATing is not good for the internet
13:05:10 <HTT-Bird> esp. 'carrier grade' NAT
13:05:29 <Goya> Until IPv6 adoption is widespread - there's not really a good work-around.
13:05:48 <Mekkis> and this trend of everything over HTTP is making that acceptable
13:06:30 <Goya> Because it works and it's cheaper than fixing the root problem.
13:07:31 <Goya> I don't want to switch over the network at work to IPv6 - and I work in a VERY small shop (all considered). We don't NAT - though we probably should to a certain degree.
13:09:41 <Goya> But I digress on what is no-doubt a very boring tangent.
13:11:00 <Goya> Back to my zen archer. *ahem*
13:11:36 <Wrothmonk> yay, something I can understand!
13:12:05 <Wrothmonk> well kinda.
13:15:30 <HTT-Bird> so, I think I have an idea of what I could do for PFS...halfling paladin xD
13:17:23 <Goya> (But really Mekkis - I think a Forum would be better to play-by-post than usenet/GG - due to administration and sub-forums et al). Cleaner that way. Now I'll shut up again.
13:17:40 <Goya> Halfling paladin... Hmm.. Never even considered that..
13:19:18 <HTT-Bird> the one problem I can see for PFS play is faction alignments
13:20:27 <HTT-Bird> my 'primary' characters tend to create/occupy unusual political niches
13:20:53 <Goya> I haven't seen PFS played via forum - but I've seen some amazing stuff done with Aps. (Carrion Crown) http://brennor.dyndns.org/rpg/Forums/viewtopic/t=5777/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html
13:22:32 <Goya> I thought that was very well done (for play-by-post) - though it lacks the 'immediacy' of VTT or whatnot.
13:25:14 <Mekkis> Goya, if you didn't notice, we ran out of v4 addresses two years ago. If you're responsible for a network and don't have a transition plan, you're not doing your job.
13:25:22 <HTT-Bird> and I could see a political outlier char not really fitting well with the goals/missions *any* factions give
13:25:46 <Mekkis> then don't do them
13:25:47 <HTT-Bird> err *any* faction gives *sigh*
13:26:20 <HTT-Bird> right, it seems like the structure of PFS is designed to make the opportunity cost of not doing them rather high
13:26:28 <Mekkis> I want to make an ex-shadow lodger to join Grand Lodge and deliberately fail every mission
13:28:31 <Goya> I completely agree with you Mekkis. Until the 'upstream' providers support IPv6 - it's not feasible or possible.
13:29:19 <Wrothmonk> That reminds me, how exactly are missions handled now? I get the whole go for the faction goal but I dont understand how it works out mechanically
13:30:09 <Mekkis> how far upstream. Last I checked, almost all transit supported it.
13:31:30 <Goya> I work for the government (though a very small rural county). We can't transition to IPv6 until the state and fed levels step up and adopt - which they're not doing very fast.
13:33:01 <Goya> The US snagged a vast portion of the IPv4 address space - so they don't seem to keen on 'pushing' IPv6 - even though the rest of the world is clamoring for it.
13:36:00 <Goya> (I really need to stop talking I think and go back to my archer.. *ahem*)
13:38:36 <Goya> (P.S. I'm an IT drone for a VERY rural area - I'm NOT the FED or anything)
13:39:17 <HTT-Bird> yeah, no worries
13:39:31 * HTT-Bird comes from a family of civil servants, ex-military, etal
13:39:47 <Goya> Hehe
13:40:06 <Wrothmonk> Its always fun to feel like the normal on :P
13:40:09 <Wrothmonk> one*
13:42:39 <Mekkis> goya, you haven't seen the restrictions ARIN puts on space?
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13:48:41 <Goya> *nods* I have (to some degree).
13:49:23 <Brunius|M> I know what these words mean
13:50:14 <Mekkis> has balls disappeared?
13:57:57 <Brunius|M> He was here this morning
13:58:13 <Brunius|M> He showed someone how to use the five
13:58:14 <Brunius|M> Dice
14:03:11 <Goya> Would taking 'Wisdom in the Flesh' and applying it to Sleight of Hand be unethical for a monk?
14:07:13 <Goya> Certainly seems so.. But it sounds like more fun than climb or swim - and I can't find another decent trait beyond Hunter's Eye.
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14:14:53 <Jaffer> hello.
14:15:02 <Goya> Maybe goldsniffer or deft dodger..
14:15:05 <Wrothmonk> Evenin'
14:15:06 <Goya> Cheers.
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14:22:45 <Mekkis> ip link set wlan0 down && iwconfig wlan0 mode managed && ip link set wlan0 up && iwlist scan && ip link set wlan0 down && iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor && ip link set wlan0 up
14:22:49 <Mekkis> oops
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14:29:00 <Goya> Packet sniffing?
14:30:23 <Goya> I should really install FreeBSD on my laptop for troubleshooting again one of these days..
14:32:55 <Goya> monitor mode is darn helpful. It wasn't ever available on my mac (due to driver issues).
14:34:56 <Goya> *really needs to learn to just STOP talking when drinking*
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14:49:58 <Jaffer> okay, so i havn't played an RPG via irc. what do I need to know?
14:52:43 <Brunius|M> We communicate through irc, Skype, and use a program created by Ballig for mapping
14:52:46 <Brunius|M> ?ca
14:52:59 <Brunius|M> Hmmmm
14:53:04 <Wrothmonk> !/ca
14:53:08 <Wrothmonk> !?ca
14:53:17 <Brunius|M> There's a link to that on the site
14:53:29 <Brunius|M> Diebot is down, wroth
14:53:29 <Wrothmonk> we also use a bot for dice rolls.
14:53:32 <Wrothmonk> ah
14:53:46 <Jaffer> combat assist? I just downloaded it.
14:54:07 <Brunius|M> Which version? We use the beta, generally
14:54:29 <Jaffer> 2.2 build 103
14:54:46 <Jaffer> first download on the page.
14:55:16 <Brunius|M> I think we're using a different build, but I can't get you the link at the moment
15:01:58 <Jaffer> it's okay.
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15:02:06 <Mekkis> ?ca
15:02:07 <diebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
15:05:15 <Brunius|M> We generally play under the pfs ruleset
15:05:16 <Jaffer> cheers, downloaded.
15:05:20 <Brunius|M> ?guide
15:05:20 <diebot> Brunius|M, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
15:05:43 <Brunius|M> Looks like there's no timeline for the next game, though
15:07:03 <Jaffer> i don't know if i'll be able to make the organised game.
15:07:09 <Jaffer> i may be busy.
15:07:20 <Jaffer> I do have a character built in herolab.
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15:12:41 <Jaffer> what sort of characters are people interested in running with? I currently have a bard and a gunslinger.
15:13:54 <Mekkis> I think my next character will be an oracle
15:14:13 <Mekkis> Is it a bad idea to call it Ceaquel?
15:15:09 <Jaffer> what's a Ceaquel?
15:15:20 <Brunius|M> Sequel
15:15:37 <Jaffer> ohh, I misread it, sorry...
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15:16:11 <Mekkis> or is that a really bad joke that is understood by about 1% and gets old fast?
15:17:00 <Goya> hehe. It was funny.
15:17:11 <Jaffer> truthfully, I don't get it.
15:17:16 <Mekkis> see what I mean
15:17:17 <Goya> SQL
15:17:25 <Goya> (Oracle is a DB)
15:17:55 <Mekkis> and then you need to explain the joke and it isn't funny anymore
15:18:20 <Goya> SQL (Structured Query Language) is used to pull data from a DB (Oracle)... *crickets chirping*
15:18:22 <Jaffer> ohh, i get it now. sorry, i'm thick.
15:18:36 <Goya> No - it was pretty nerdy. No offense Mekkis.
15:18:45 <Goya> Clever though.
15:19:22 <Mekkis> People didn't like the fact that my cleric named Kernigahn had an animal companion named Dennis
15:19:44 <Goya> Hehe.
15:20:47 <Goya> Pet should have been Ritchie to keep with the last names. ;)
15:21:21 <Jaffer> I mostly get my names from converting something about the character to another language. not original, but it works.
15:21:40 <Goya> *nods* I stole Goya from an art history textbook.
15:23:27 <Goya> I suppose I should head to bed. My zen archer isn't looking so good. I'll try again tomorrow I guess. *yawns*
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15:26:53 <Steven> yo
15:31:53 <Jaffer> hi
15:32:33 <Steven> run its jaffer
15:32:36 <Steven> i mean sup
15:33:12 <Jaffer> lol. why would you run? I'm brand new.
15:33:40 <Steven> exactly... so many questions
15:33:51 <Steven> and i am so damn lazy
15:34:30 <Jaffer> lol. well, i'm sure you'll get a change to ask them later.
15:35:56 <Steven> woot woot it went right over their head...
15:36:06 <Steven> means i get a pass for tonight.
15:42:56 <Brunius|M> He means you're probably going to ask questions
15:44:01 <Brunius|M> Considering Steven is a venture lieutenant, he's probably the best person to ask about Pathfinder
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15:47:08 <Jaffer> ahh, okay. I don't really have any questions at the moment, just reading and re-reading all the books and material.
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15:57:50 <Jaffer> Alright, I'm out for now. It was a pleasure meeting you all. Bye.
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16:02:53 <Steven> one of the best not gonna claim the best
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16:45:19 <Brunius|M-> How different are first and second edition?
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16:54:38 <Avatar> yo
16:56:43 <Steven> yo
16:59:10 <Avatar> new VC for online play eh
16:59:12 <Avatar> big news
16:59:27 <Steven> yup, im glad they finally did it
18:03:46 <Steven> so, imma be at 95/100 tables by wednesday when i leave
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18:23:10 <spider21b> hi
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18:42:21 <Steven> suuuuuup
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20:26:14 <Blasticka> anyone around that could help me and allengirl tinker with her character before she officially levels up to 2?
20:26:24 <Blasticka> in about 20 minutes?
20:28:06 <Steven> but i dont even lik eyou man!
20:28:23 <Blasticka> no not that kind of tinker! lol
20:28:27 <Blasticka> bad Steven
20:28:33 <Blasticka> no cookie
20:28:39 <Blasticka> :-P
20:28:42 <Steven> heh
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21:10:00 <Allengirl> Hey, this is my new build.
21:10:03 <Allengirl> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=768
21:10:03 <Blasticka> and here she is!
21:10:30 <Blasticka> we haven't done feats yet just trying to solidify the ability scores first
21:10:41 <Blasticka> the 15 dex is for improved shield bash
21:23:44 <Steven> ALRIGHT IM BACK
21:24:20 <Allengirl> Hello
21:24:27 <Steven> oh shit your here...
21:24:29 <Steven> im gone!
21:24:51 <Allengirl> Wha'd I ever do to you?
21:25:04 <Allengirl> Except almost die!
21:25:06 * Steven shrugs
21:25:20 <Allengirl> *sulks
21:25:37 <Steven> have you considered ranger for your character?
21:26:00 <Allengirl> Yep. I want a ranger.
21:26:20 <Allengirl> But I'm saving that for a main character once I've learned a bit more and bought all the books.
21:26:23 <Steven> no i mean for the character you linked?
21:26:39 <Allengirl> But.. she's a fighter
21:26:49 <Allengirl> She bashes things with her axe!
21:26:54 <Steven> at level 2 you can rebuild the character to whatever you want.
21:27:03 <Allengirl> You can?
21:27:18 <Steven> so if you played 3 games as a summoner and level up to 2 and are like i hate summoners
21:27:27 <Steven> you get to switch it to whatever you want
21:27:50 <Steven> if you're trying to go for a shield fighter rangers get some pretty sweet things
21:28:00 <Allengirl> But you can't tinker anymore right?
21:28:08 <Allengirl> After the next game?
21:28:35 <Steven> exactly
21:28:55 <Avatar> or until season 5 starts and retraining rules come in !
21:28:58 <Allengirl> So if I switch her to a ranger and then hate rangers, I'm stuck with it.
21:29:07 <Avatar> I am super keen to see what those retraining rules entail
21:29:10 <Steven> yup pretty much
21:29:16 <Avatar> I have so many useless characters
21:29:33 <Allengirl> I like her as a dwarven fighter. It suits. My ranger is going to be totally different.
21:29:48 <Allengirl> Not a dwarf for one.
21:30:07 <Allengirl> And I don't like elves either, to cliche.
21:30:12 <Steven> the reason i mention it is because the ranger has a combat style of Weapon and Shield and at second level you can ignore the prereqs and take shield slam
21:30:26 <Steven> which... is pretty fuckin awesome.
21:30:33 <Allengirl> Yeah, I want a ranger that is ranged, not a tank ranger.
21:30:52 <Steven> attack with shield, make bullrush vs target if they hit a wall they are knocked prone
21:31:02 <Allengirl> Would that work with this character?
21:31:19 <Allengirl> Wouldn't she lose a feat, and have totally the wrong stat build?
21:31:44 <Steven> i keep forgetting you guys havent played much PFS
21:31:57 <Allengirl> Nope, not at all really.
21:32:01 <Allengirl> 3 games.
21:32:13 <Allengirl> And two of them I survived!
21:32:18 <Allengirl> XD
21:33:52 <Allengirl> I've been just beginning to make a second character. I was planning on making her a ranger.
21:33:59 <Allengirl> That was when I learned
21:34:10 <Allengirl> I need books to make the character type I wanted.
21:35:18 <Steven> paizo appreciates you purchasing the content you use.
21:36:23 <Steven> they dont expect you to run out and purchase 100s of dollars worth of books right after your first 2-3 sessions.
21:37:11 <Blasticka> I think allengirl is interested in making a character who will survive
21:37:15 <Blasticka> so she can play and have fun
21:37:35 <Allengirl> lol
21:37:57 <Allengirl> I've never played a game where my characters don't just respawn when I kill them.
21:37:59 <Steven> are you worried about not surviving...
21:38:09 <Allengirl> It makes me feel more protective of them.
21:38:11 <Steven> DAMN RIGHT YOU ARE!
21:38:17 <Steven> bwahahahahah
21:38:48 <Steven> anyways, dying isnt a very big thing
21:38:52 <Steven> happens eventually
21:38:58 <Allengirl> I was going with a build that was just mondo-tank
21:39:11 <Allengirl> My character had 29hp at level 2
21:39:33 <Allengirl> And then Andrew and I looked into messing around to get double hitting with a sword and shield.
21:39:42 <Allengirl> And it dropped to 22
21:39:52 <Allengirl> Which is still okay.
21:40:05 <Allengirl> But now she's pretty stupid and uncharismatic.
21:40:07 <Steven> hey... my ranger had 32hp at level 2
21:40:12 <Steven> and gained like 11hp per level
21:40:20 <Allengirl> *whistle*
21:40:30 <Steven> it was pretty crazy
21:41:50 <Steven> was an aasimar
21:42:19 <Allengirl> Ah, yeah.
21:42:25 <Steven> or was it the human....
21:42:26 <Allengirl> Aasimar's kick butt
21:42:27 <Steven> i never remember
21:42:28 <Allengirl> I want one.
21:42:32 <Steven> i shoudl rebuild it
21:42:40 <Allengirl> http://www.lolhappens.com/282414/the-legends/ <--- FUNNY!
21:43:37 <Steven> yeah.... you shouldnt link alignment memes in here... people always want to comment.
21:43:51 <Steven> then i want to punch people in the face
21:44:06 <Allengirl> Just ran into it on facebook, and thought you might get a kick out of it.
21:44:24 <Allengirl> Or a facepunch, whatever.
21:44:52 <Allengirl> I want the aasimar books, but I think I need 2 to be able to play them.
21:45:01 <Steven> nah, just 1
21:45:06 <Steven> Advanced Race Guide
21:45:12 <Steven> to use the heritages you need 2
21:45:15 <Allengirl> Even for the garuuda blooded thing?
21:45:19 <Allengirl> Yeah.
21:45:40 <Allengirl> But a basic aasimar might be okay.
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21:47:54 <Steven> totes gonna make it over again
21:47:56 <Avatar> I am freezing my sorry white butt off
21:48:38 <Raine> mekkis i may not be able to make the 6th :(
21:48:41 <Raine> family
21:48:48 Raine is now known as kapow
21:49:02 <Avatar> I can't make the weekend after
21:49:06 <Steven> its cool raine, im not making it cause imma be at a convention
21:49:21 <Avatar> how long have you known that and not told us
21:49:37 <Steven> mekkis has known for quite a while
21:49:51 <Steven> and i retold him when he scheduled it.
21:50:08 <kapow> as in i found out today avatar
21:50:15 <Avatar> not you
21:51:22 <Allengirl> What stats are best for rangers?
21:51:31 <Avatar> dex/wis I think
21:51:38 <Avatar> ranged ranger or melee ranger?
21:52:17 <Allengirl> Ranged
21:52:43 <Steven> dex/wis
21:53:54 <Avatar> rangers are one of my weaker classes, not familiar with them
21:55:14 <HTT-Bird> hrm...halfing (natural) lycanthrope paladin...this could be really fun...*schlurp*
21:56:33 <Allengirl> Tengu has +2 to dex and wis.
21:57:25 <Allengirl> Undine too.
21:59:25 <HTT-Bird> Can lycanthropes be defined in terms of any Animal-class creature, or are they limited to the handful explicitly set out by the Bestiary?
22:07:33 <Allengirl> I think I'm gonna go with a Vanaras
22:07:36 <Allengirl> Ranger.
22:08:06 <HTT-Bird> o/
22:08:11 <Xain> It's evening and I do not feel well, will you all be on over the weekend?
22:09:53 <Blasticka> it's alright. get some rest and yes on saturday I'll be online
22:10:30 <Steven> there we go, made my stupid hp ranger
22:10:37 <Xain> ok im just going to stay logged in, Saturday I will have 24 hours of nothing going on
22:10:44 <Xain> and it shall be glorious
22:10:53 <Xain> HTT hope you get your character up and going :-P
22:11:21 <Allengirl> Was it hard to remember?
22:11:28 <Steven> nope
22:11:55 <HTT-Bird> hehe, its just a matter of finding a suitable campaign/environment for the char
22:11:55 <Mekkis> some rather breathtaking views here
22:11:55 <Allengirl> Can I see?
22:17:47 <Steven> uploading it now
22:20:34 <Steven> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=776
22:21:13 <Allengirl> Level 1?
22:21:27 <Steven> level 2
22:21:39 <Steven> i have some GM credit saved up from runnings first steps
22:21:50 <Steven> so the next character i make auto levels to 2
22:22:09 <Allengirl> Nice.
22:22:18 <Allengirl> Thats a lot of HP
22:22:43 <Steven> yeah, gotta love the HPs
22:22:53 <Allengirl> :) Looks like a cool character.
22:22:59 <Allengirl> Do you like aasimars?
22:23:30 <Steven> something like around 180hp or so at level 12 assuming +4 con belt
22:23:41 <Steven> they alright
22:23:48 <Steven> my personal favorite is half orcs for flavor
22:24:15 <Allengirl> I've been checking out extended races, and I think I love the Vanaras race.
22:25:17 <Allengirl> They'll make a kick butt ranger
22:25:27 <Allengirl> Something about the monkeywoman thing.
22:25:35 <Steven> sure
22:25:52 <Steven> alright goin to sleep now... before my dad calls and asks me to get him donuts or something.
22:26:06 <Allengirl> That should just require the advanced races guide yeah?
22:26:20 <Allengirl> No worries, sleep well and we'll see you tomorrow morning for the game.
22:26:25 <Allengirl> Thanks for your help.
22:26:29 <Blasticka> goodnight steve
22:26:48 <Steven> vanara's arent legal without a boon
22:26:56 <Allengirl> Awwwwww
22:26:59 <Allengirl> That sucks!
22:27:02 <Blasticka> which boon?
22:27:03 <Allengirl> :(
22:27:06 <Blasticka> and how do ya get it
22:27:26 <HTT-Bird> o/ Blasticka
22:27:39 <Blasticka> hey it's the cavalry man
22:27:52 <Blasticka> heya mr. bird
22:27:59 <HTT-Bird> did you see my question about lycanthropes btw?
22:28:14 <Blasticka> no i was playing another game must have missed it
22:28:18 <Blasticka> I'm not the one to ask anyway
22:28:22 <HTT-Bird> ah.
22:28:31 <Blasticka> I've only been playing for like, 2 or 3 weeks
22:28:34 <HTT-Bird> *nods*
22:28:38 <Blasticka> and I only own the equipment books
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22:29:27 <HTT-Bird> reason why I asked was that I don't see what would prohibit someone from concocting some other sort of werecreature :)
22:30:04 <HTT-Bird> werehawk? werehare?
22:30:18 <Allengirl> Well sometimes they don't mention any rules against using equiptment, classes or races but then as soon as you make one they let you know its not legal to play.
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22:30:37 <HTT-Bird> Allengirl, o.o
22:31:36 <Allengirl> I wanted to make a couple of advanced race characters and was told I can't without a book for one, and a 'boon' for another.
22:31:54 <Allengirl> Blasticka bought a book to get automatic wrist sheathes
22:32:08 <Allengirl> And now they may be outlawed in pathfinder society games.
22:32:21 <Allengirl> I've learned its good to ask first.
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22:32:43 <Allengirl> And a few people, not just one. lol
22:33:41 <Mekkis> let's see how much flaming my thread necromancy and campaigning for the Spring Loaded Wrist Sheath's ban will cause.
22:40:55 <Blasticka> Ban? oh noes! I just bought the book so I could use them lol
22:49:36 <Mekkis> hey
22:49:41 <Mekkis> it's a broken item
22:50:32 <Blasticka> only if an ogre steps on the gear part...
22:50:35 <Blasticka> :-P
22:50:46 <Goya> Wow.. I managed to ban myself from AustNet..
22:51:24 <Goya> I was trying to get auto-identify to work with IRSSI and I managed to double-connect - which is against the rules I guess..
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22:53:58 <Blasticka> ouch
22:54:06 <Blasticka> wanna play pathfinder?
22:54:09 <Blasticka> :-D
22:54:34 <Goya> I would - but it's a bit late for me.. =(
22:54:50 <Goya> Going to bed at midnight would kill me.
22:55:42 <Goya> I'm going to try the auth thing ONE more time - then give up..
22:55:50 <HTT-Bird> IIRC, I got booted off of FreeNode once because their auto-zombie-detection false-positive'd on me
22:56:13 <Goya> Hehe. Freenode was fine with it.. AustNet - not so much.. =)
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23:04:40 <Mekkis> Brunius, Brunius|M: you around?
23:07:42 <Brunius|M> Could be
23:07:45 <Brunius|M> Why?
23:18:55 <Goya> Damn. I better not do that again.. I'm going to perma-ban myself at this rate..
23:19:04 <Mekkis> heh
23:20:32 <Blasticka> heya brunius.
23:20:49 <Goya> The PDF versions of the books work if you play PFS in-person don't they? (e.g. I don't need to lug around the hardcovers?)
23:21:02 <Mekkis> Goya, you SHOULD print out the relevant pages
23:21:18 <Blasticka> probably depends on the GM if you have your laptop there maybe they wouldn't mind
23:21:26 <Goya> *nods* But - if I have a tablet with me or whatnot?
23:21:40 <Goya> *nods* Ok. I'll probably just cart the books. Better safe than sorry.
23:21:55 <Mekkis> I strongly dislike laptops on tables. Plus, it's cluncky to search a given file on a device.
23:22:25 <Goya> I just don't want to lug around 30lb of books all weekend.. Heh.
23:22:52 <Mekkis> Goya, if you own the PDFs, just print out the required pages and you'll be fine
23:23:06 <Goya> Ok. Thanks guys.
23:23:18 <Mekkis> you have a folder for your character, right?
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23:24:10 <Goya> Not yet - but I plan on taking several copies of the char sheet and my cheat-sheet notes along.
23:24:19 <Mekkis> I use Marbig Bindermate display books: it lets me put the character sheet in the front, followed by the printouts of Additional Resources, followed by all the chronicle sheets
23:24:25 <Mekkis> you MUST bring the chronicle sheets
23:24:44 <Mekkis> http://www.marbig.com.au/products/images/Zoom/z22004%20BindermateDispBk%20b%20WBg%20DEI.jpg
23:24:52 <Goya> Thanks Mekkis
23:25:10 <Goya> Chronicle sheets? Are they special - or can I use the herolab printouts (with my Paizo char ID)?
23:25:29 <Mekkis> you NEED the actual chronicle sheets
23:25:36 <Mekkis> you can't use herolab printouts
23:25:40 <Goya> Ah crap.
23:25:52 <Mekkis> the ONLY thing you should use herolab printouts for is your actual character sheet
23:26:12 <Mekkis> (fyi, owning the herolab resource is NOT the same as owning the book/PDF)
23:27:19 <Goya> I know - I own the books - I just got herolab to make it easier to roll characters.
23:31:26 <Goya> Where the heck is the generic PFS Chronicle sheet? It looks like you get those when you actually play the game.
23:31:53 <Mekkis> why do you need a generic PFS chronicle sheet?
23:32:51 <Goya> You said I need to take the chronicle sheets... I'm thinking I'm just slow - and you get those over time as you actually play. If I've never played - I don't have any. (?)
23:33:41 <Mekkis> that's correct
23:33:44 <Mekkis> so you're fine
23:33:55 <Goya> I guess - to make a long story short - I'm planning on playing my first few sessions in a few weeks - without prior experience. So - I can just take the herolab sheet (or whatever) and go from there.
23:34:09 <Mekkis> when you play, your GM will give your a chronicle sheet when you're done
23:34:19 <Goya> *nods* Makes sense. Thanks.
23:34:28 <Mekkis> if you play online, the GM will probably give it to you electronically
23:34:41 <Mekkis> you'll need to print it out
23:34:54 <Goya> Ok. Easy enough.
23:35:20 <Mekkis> (I personally offer to mail chronicle sheets, if people want my signature on it, but I don't know many other who offer that)
23:36:23 <Goya> Hehe. Must cost you a fortune to mail internationally
23:36:39 <Mekkis> $AU2 or so. Not that much
23:43:28 <Blasticka> Steven you awake?
23:44:22 <Goya> He went to the shop a few hours ago to open up I think - so he should be awake.
23:52:27 <Mekkis> I need to come up with another character concept
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