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00:06:06 <Mekkis> use wget
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01:33:36 <Brunius> Bad example, but I'm rather annoyed about other stuff
01:34:54 <poundpuppy30> so then if the evil guy who is good by touch of evil does an area of attack spell that hits all good people and hes center then he would take damage too right?
01:35:10 <Brunius> Does his AOE spell have the evil descriptor?
01:35:20 <poundpuppy30> yes
01:35:24 <Brunius> Then yes, it would.
01:39:11 <poundpuppy30> thats wierd i went to check good domain expecting the opposite and with their touch og good it doesn't make the person touched evil lol
01:40:10 <poundpuppy30> well i learned someone was wrong at shop i play at and will have to call them out next time i see them doing it
01:41:39 <spider21b> got kicked off
01:49:18 <Steven> enchilladas for dinner... tasty tasty
01:55:50 <spider21b> look its 20 point build 22:48 <spider21b>: str 14 22:49 <spider21b>: dex 14 22:49 <spider21b>: con 14 22:49 <spider21b>: int 14 22:49 <spider21b>: wisom 10 22:49 <spider21b>: cha 10 22:49 <spider21b>: now with being human i added +2 cha 22:49 <spider21b>: because i was stupid 22:50 <spider21b>: then being a trans wizard i get +2 to str 22:50 <spider21b>: +1 f
01:55:57 <spider21b> forget it!
02:05:20 <Steven> ???
02:05:25 <Steven> having problems mang?
02:08:23 <Brunius> How did you get +2
02:09:11 <Steven> trans wizard gets +1 to physical stat at level 1, at level 5 it goes to +2
02:10:27 <spider21b> right
02:10:51 <spider21b> mekkis wants me to explain how spellbook's stats
02:10:57 <spider21b> its 100 percent legal!
02:11:21 <Steven> well, did you explain it?
02:11:40 <spider21b> yep
02:11:47 <Steven> so.... whats the problem
02:11:53 <spider21b> and i emailed my local pathfinder soceity person
02:12:02 <spider21b> since i lost all my sheets cause my compture died
02:13:21 <spider21b> still not sheet!
02:13:26 <spider21b> no sheet i ment
02:13:29 <spider21b> for last game
02:17:38 <spider21b> sigh
02:24:05 <spider21b> could anyone please help me!
02:24:58 <Steven> what up?
02:25:48 <spider21b> apparently my sheet for spellbook isn't up to snuff
02:26:14 <spider21b> also, if mekkis sent me a sheet how come it was never sent to me
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02:28:42 <Brunius> Explain the stats in here
02:28:49 <spider21b> i did
02:28:59 <spider21b> +2 in cha
02:29:03 <spider21b> for being human
02:29:13 <spider21b> +2 in str for being a wizard trans
02:29:25 <spider21b> its fin!
02:29:33 <Brunius> !findchar spellbook
02:29:39 <diebot> Brunius, Character: spellbook, number: 593( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=593 )
02:30:33 <Brunius> where did your level 4 bonus go?
02:30:40 <spider21b> still working on that
02:30:52 <spider21b> here is the orginal
02:30:53 <spider21b> http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=490344
02:30:58 <Brunius> If it went to STR, everything checks out
02:31:35 <spider21b> it does!
02:31:42 <Brunius> at least for the statline
02:31:50 <Brunius> Mekkis, is there any other problem?
02:36:58 <Brunius> !feat great cleave
02:36:58 <diebot> Brunius, GREAT CLEAVE [Combat]Prereq: Str 13, Cleave, Power Attack, base attack bonus +4. You can strike many adjacent foes with a single blow.
02:36:58 <diebot> Benefit: As a standard action, you can make a single attack at your full base attack bonus against a foe within reach. If you hit, you deal damage normally and can make an additional attack (using your full base attack bonus) against a foe that is adjacent to the previous foe and also within reach. If you hit, you can continue to make attacks
02:36:58 <diebot> against foes adjacent to the previous foe, so long as they are within your reach. You cannot attack an individual foe more than once during this attack action. When you use this feat, you take a –2 penalty to your Armor Class until your next turn. Source: Core
02:37:08 <Brunius> How did you get great cleave
02:39:07 <spider21b> i dont know i thought i got in ek though
02:39:13 <spider21b> i got an extra feat
02:39:24 <Brunius> it has cleave as a prereq
02:39:46 <spider21b> oh gotcha cleave then
02:50:29 <Steven> bored....
02:50:44 <spider21b> so yea
02:53:39 <Brunius> steven
02:53:46 <Brunius> tell me where da white wimmin at
02:54:04 <Steven> have you checked the bank?
02:55:01 <Brunius> all the banks close before I get near them
02:55:06 <Brunius> silly public transport
02:58:08 <spider21b> yep
02:58:32 <spider21b> dang you mikkis all i want is a sheet to make my self feel better
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03:18:33 <Yiroep> It was netsplit time. :p
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03:53:05 <Avatar> spider are you cheating
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03:59:33 <spider21b> i am not!
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04:02:43 <Avatar> fixed the too-many-feats I see
04:03:51 <Avatar> where is your transmutation point and your 4th level increase going into
04:03:53 <Avatar> what ability scores
04:07:12 <spider21b> how many feats can i have for my level and for fighter and ek?
04:07:17 <spider21b> and wizard levels?
04:09:34 <Avatar> 4 feats for 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th level
04:09:40 <Avatar> a bonus fighter feat for your fighter level
04:09:53 <Avatar> a bonus wizard feat for wizard level 5
04:10:04 <Avatar> do you get a bonus feat for eldritch 1
04:10:10 <Avatar> I don't even know what book that's in
04:10:33 <Avatar> what scores did you say your transmutation and 4th level points went into
04:15:59 <Steven> you get a bonus feat for eld knight
04:16:43 <Avatar> what book is it in
04:21:32 <Steven> core
04:22:21 <Avatar> seriously?
04:22:44 <Avatar> shit there it is
04:35:30 <Steven> yuuuuuuuuuup
04:37:58 <Mekkis> big thing is the stacking
04:38:23 <Mekkis> bull's strength doesn't stack with transmuter bonus
04:41:16 <Steven> 38% done with download
04:41:18 <Steven> woot woot
04:48:07 <spider21b> i know
04:48:14 <spider21b> back
04:48:35 <spider21b> strt
04:48:44 <spider21b> sorry had to use the restroom
04:50:19 <spider21b> yea you do for eldirch kinght
04:55:36 <Steven> 6-%
04:55:39 <Steven> 60%
04:58:06 <spider21b> ok finished it now i only have 6 feats
04:58:31 <Steven> you should have 7
04:59:11 <Steven> feats from level 1 3 5 7
04:59:21 <Steven> 1 from wizard
04:59:24 <Steven> 1 from fighter
04:59:30 <Steven> 1 from eld knight
04:59:38 <Steven> the one from fighter is from a very small list
05:00:06 <Steven> er wizard even
05:00:36 <spider21b> oh ok
05:00:54 <spider21b> can i still have power attack?
05:07:34 <Steven> 70%
05:21:03 <Blasticka> Hey everyone
05:21:05 <Blasticka> :-)
05:21:10 <Steven> yo
05:21:35 <Blasticka> anything stirring? pickup games? nifty discussions?
05:21:50 <Steven> so far... no conversations worth noting
05:22:28 <Blasticka> and no longshot so the chances of a game are grim I suppose
05:22:52 <Blasticka> are you feeling better with the asthma and all
05:23:20 * Steven shrugs
05:23:26 <Steven> it was raining all day
05:23:32 <Steven> so no allergies
05:23:40 <Steven> but humidity isnt good either
05:27:42 <Blasticka> hmmmm. so darned if you do darned if you don't you should live in arizona
05:27:52 <Blasticka> dry, hot, nothing grows and no humidity
05:28:08 <Steven> nah fuck that noise
05:28:14 <Steven> i like the north west too much
05:28:37 <Blasticka> I loved Portland while I lived there
05:28:39 <Blasticka> so green
05:31:44 <Blasticka> it was a lot of fun playing with rupert the other day
05:31:52 <Blasticka> you roleplay very well
05:33:57 <Steven> yeah i roleplay a lot better when im not getting over one of my migraines
05:39:07 <Steven> hope my download finished right... had a random disconnect in the middle.
05:46:14 <Blasticka> better check it yeah
05:46:50 <Blasticka> So mr. steven, any chance you have time this week to schedule a level 2 game for me and allengirl and maybe longshot if he's around?
05:46:59 <Steven> who knows
05:47:45 <Blasticka> depends on the migraines eh?
05:49:03 <Steven> yup
05:49:12 <Steven> im feelin pretty worn out today
05:49:18 <Blasticka> what time is it for you steven?
05:49:22 <Steven> 3am
05:49:35 <Blasticka> oh dear. go to bed. maybe we'll catch you tomorrow
05:49:49 <Steven> nah, this is when im up. I'm on call right now.
05:49:57 <Blasticka> oh reeeaaallly
05:50:03 <Steven> I'm a care giver
05:50:12 <Blasticka> oh good for you!
05:50:25 <Blasticka> couple of our good friends do that
05:50:33 <Blasticka> I used to be an LMT for a number of years
05:51:33 <Blasticka> Since you are in the states, you should research with your doctor a company called Univera and their product Regenicare.
05:51:47 <Blasticka> did wonders for a lot of my clients, and my shoulder too.
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05:55:08 <Blasticka> anyone else online?
05:55:17 <Blasticka> me and the wife would play if a game started very soon
06:01:51 <Blasticka> Mekkis? are you here? would you play with us?
06:02:27 <Blasticka> Or maybe Brunius?
06:02:35 <Brunius> I have economics homework to do
06:02:53 <Blasticka> no fun. are you close to done?
06:06:14 <Brunius> I haven't started
06:06:25 <Brunius> Besides, I need to get up 6am tomorrow, which means not going to bed at 2am
06:07:52 <Blasticka> well homework is more important than pathfinder. JUST BARRREEELY. :-P
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06:21:46 <Blasticka> sooo, getting close to our start limit. anyone feel like Gm'ing if we find one more player?
06:27:56 <Steven> fuckin gay
06:28:02 <Steven> i hate securom so much
06:28:10 <Blasticka> what's wrong?
06:28:15 <Blasticka> what's securom
06:28:33 <Steven> a sony authenticator
06:29:45 <Blasticka> for like, watching a movie on a dvd player?
06:29:56 <Steven> for playing a game
06:30:02 <Steven> its not letting me update teh wrapper
06:30:36 <Steven> which is 'too old' according to it
06:30:42 <Blasticka> bleah that sucks
06:36:06 <Steven> fuck it...
06:36:18 <Steven> guess i wont play it today
06:36:42 <Steven> gonna go jump in dat shower
06:38:21 <Steven> see ya in a bit...
06:38:23 <Avatar> dat shower
06:38:45 <Avatar> I was planning on running a game on friday night but I have left it too late I think
06:39:44 <Blasticka> what level were you going to run?
06:39:57 <Blasticka> and what time?
06:40:25 <Steven> ill be back in like 20... see if anyody wanna play
06:41:32 <Blasticka> okay. I'll see if I can get avatar to play with us. :-P
06:43:06 <Blasticka> hey ol buddy ol pal, up for a game this evening?
06:43:14 <Blasticka> :-D
06:43:57 <Avatar> I am going to bed
06:44:03 <Blasticka> awwwww
06:44:08 <Avatar> well not now
06:44:31 <Blasticka> well if you decide to gm a game, put it on the site and invite me and allengirl if we are allowed to use our level 2 characters.
06:45:16 <Avatar> the one I'm aiming for is either another way of the kirin game or fortress of the nail (5-9)
06:45:37 <Avatar> nag one of those players to GM for you
06:45:48 <Blasticka> heya spider
06:45:54 <Avatar> get spider to GM
06:45:59 <spider21b> i am back
06:46:03 <Blasticka> hey that's an idea
06:46:09 <spider21b> to gm what?
06:46:18 <Blasticka> Spider, what's your schedule for this evening?
06:46:32 <spider21b> well, its 3:45 am here
06:46:45 <spider21b> i got class thursday
06:46:46 <Blasticka> and are you well rested? about to go to bed?
06:46:59 <spider21b> about to sleep honestly
06:47:10 <Blasticka> ah well. was worth a shot
06:47:41 <spider21b> sorry chaps
06:48:37 <Blasticka> naw sleep and school are important.
06:48:49 <Blasticka> just woulda been awesome to have a game tonight
06:49:35 <Blasticka> maybe longshot and his bard will log in in like the next five minutes. lol
06:50:46 <spider21b> i could dm on saterday if you can wait
06:50:47 <Steven> refreshing!
06:51:28 <Blasticka> saturday in the us or saturday in australia?
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08:38:47 <Steven> damn it... that was totally not enough sleep
08:46:43 <Goya> *looks at watch* You just waking up?
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20:50:50 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jun 24 07:02:15 2013
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20:50:55 <Blasticka> heya Steven. dat shower good?
20:51:33 <spider21b> us
20:51:48 <Blasticka> so that's sunday for us, we'll be at church most of the day.
20:51:54 <Steven> the best yo
20:52:02 <Blasticka> what time for you on saturday did you want to start?
20:53:34 <Steven> so what we got goin on?
20:53:48 <Blasticka> well a couple things.
20:54:02 <Blasticka> you, Me, and allengirl are available now. but we have no GM
20:54:20 <Blasticka> spider is wanting to do something on saturday us, sunday australia
20:54:33 <Blasticka> which is tough for us since we are at church a lot of sunday
20:54:47 <Blasticka> brunius is doing homework, avatar and spider are going to bed soon
20:55:19 <Steven> avatar does not sleep
20:55:26 <Blasticka> so we still need someone to GM for Ceybur, Rokura, and Rupert and Kyra. Lol
20:55:29 <Brunius> Mekkis claims he does
20:55:33 <Blasticka> what like Santa Claus?
20:55:48 <Blasticka> Avatar doesn't have a beard he can't be santa
20:56:53 <Avatar> what did longshot GM the other night:
20:56:54 <Avatar> ?
20:57:06 <Blasticka> First steps part 1
20:57:09 <Steven> fs p1
20:57:13 <Blasticka> and he did a really good job
20:57:17 <Avatar> nice
20:57:21 <Blasticka> in my opinion anyway
20:57:21 <Avatar> we have to give him some priority
20:58:23 <Blasticka> he said first steps part 1 was the only scenario he owned
20:58:35 <Avatar> he can get parts 2 and 3 as well
20:58:46 <Blasticka> so he might not be able to do anything else just yet but he was very excited to GM and he did very well.
20:58:53 <Avatar> and we be goblins I think
21:01:01 <Mekkis> get Steven to give him a scenario
21:01:41 <Blasticka> heya mekkis. :-)
21:01:56 <Blasticka> how is your day going?
21:02:29 <Mekkis> drove several hundred kilometres
21:02:48 <Avatar> how was it
21:02:58 <Blasticka> ending at home or a hotel?
21:03:25 <Mekkis> a pub
21:03:32 <Mekkis> had a mixed grill
21:04:15 <Blasticka> mmm. I had fish and chips for dinner. gotta love good food
21:05:28 <Blasticka> as I'm sure you have read, allengirl, myself, and Steven are looking for a GM for uh, right now. Lol. any chance you feel like whipping up an adventurer for some level 1 and 2 characters?
21:06:14 <Mekkis> not happening
21:06:24 <Mekkis> zzz
21:06:32 <Blasticka> awww. okay. always worth asking. :-)
21:06:55 <Blasticka> enjoy your rest. hope ya wake up all refreshed and stuff.
21:07:31 <Blasticka> well Steven I'm out of ideas
21:07:44 <Avatar> what is a good item that costs 3000gp
21:07:50 <Blasticka> make a weapon adamantine?
21:08:10 <Avatar> can druids use adamantine weapons
21:08:26 <Blasticka> let me check
21:08:26 <Avatar> I can never work this out
21:08:32 <Avatar> I keep thinking as soon as I see something with DR I am screwed because I am a druid
21:08:41 <Avatar> but I'm not sure if the no metal thing applies to weapons
21:08:58 <Mekkis> lesser metamagic rod
21:09:14 <Avatar> oooooo
21:09:19 <Avatar> I need a rod too
21:10:34 <Steven> druids can use any weapon made out of any substance so long as they have proficiency
21:10:37 <Blasticka> I don't think I have the right book to tell me
21:10:41 <Blasticka> about adamantine and druids
21:10:59 <Avatar> it'd be in core somewhere
21:11:02 <Blasticka> is it only armor and shields that have restrictions?
21:11:09 <Avatar> under druid presumably
21:11:14 <Steven> its the armor/shields that get them in trouble
21:11:16 <Mekkis> !item Fortunate charm
21:11:17 <Avatar> the million dollar question
21:11:21 <diebot> Mekkis, FORTUNATE CHARM [faint evocation] CL:5 neck 3000gp, 0lb
21:11:21 <diebot> Once per day, this good luck charm allows the wearer to reroll a single skill check or concentration check after the success or failure of the original roll is known. The result of the reroll must be kept, even if it is worse than the original roll. The charm may not be used on a skill check that's already been rerolled by some other means. Source:
21:11:21 <diebot> Pathfinder Society Field Guide
21:11:23 <Avatar> metal weapons are okay?
21:11:30 <Mekkis> wow
21:11:37 <Avatar> holy shit!
21:11:37 <Mekkis> that is amazing
21:11:45 <Mekkis> that's my 3000gp item
21:11:45 <Avatar> that's going on really ultimate equipment
21:11:53 <Mekkis> Core Assumption!
21:11:55 <Mekkis> better!
21:11:59 <Avatar> neck slot
21:12:03 <Avatar> still
21:12:05 <Mekkis> hmm
21:12:12 <Mekkis> what are you using your neck for?
21:12:19 <Avatar> I'm not
21:12:24 <Avatar> holding up my head
21:12:31 <Blasticka> keeping... yeah lol
21:12:40 <Mekkis> !item Bodywrap of Mighty Strikes +1
21:12:49 <diebot> Mekkis, BODYWRAP OF MIGHTY STRIKES +1 [faint evocation] CL:5 body 3000gp, 1lb
21:12:53 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/bodywrap_of_mighty_strikes_+1.html
21:12:58 <Avatar> so 2250gp
21:13:27 <Mekkis> !item Ring of ferocious action
21:13:31 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF FEROCIOUS ACTION [faint transmutation] CL:5 ring 3000gp, 0lb
21:13:34 <diebot> This ring allows its wearer to persevere through physical or mental trauma that hampers his actions. The ring has 5 charges, which are renewed each day. At the start of his turn, if the wearer is staggered, as a free action he may spend a charge to activate the ring and ignore the staggered condition until his next turn. Source: Ultimate
21:13:34 <diebot> Equipment
21:15:15 <Steven> other than amulets of might fist
21:15:33 <Steven> i usually use the neck slots for golem bane
21:15:37 <Steven> or swarm bane
21:16:10 <Avatar> those are situational
21:16:41 <Steven> yeah, but having to take it out and put it on mid combat sucks.
21:16:51 <Blasticka> can you put potions in a spring loaded wrist sheath?
21:17:43 <Avatar> yeah
21:18:24 <Avatar> I read something today about where one group buys their GMs books and as long as the GM has the book with whatever they have, it's fine
21:18:34 <Avatar> that would be a really weird way to run things
21:19:00 <Blasticka> but cheaper
21:19:05 <Mekkis> The sheath can hold one light weapon,
21:19:05 <Mekkis> ranged weapon, or wand that weighs less than 1
21:19:05 <Mekkis> pound.
21:19:18 <Mekkis> so
21:19:22 <Mekkis> no scrolls or potions
21:19:48 <Avatar> I'd allow scrolls or potions
21:20:07 <Mekkis> that would be a deviation. You can't do that in PFS
21:20:09 <Blasticka> so it's a gm decision grey area?
21:20:34 <Avatar> it's commonsense that if those things can fit, so can a scroll or a potion
21:20:53 <Avatar> a scroll is more questionable than a potion, but I'd still think it's fair
21:21:58 <Steven> Its table variance
21:22:50 <Avatar> I wouldn't expect to be able to win an argument with another GM if they didn't want to do it, but I'm not a hardass, so I'd allow it
21:23:16 <Avatar> if there's an official ruling saying no potions and scrolls don't work in a wrist sheath, fair enough
21:23:28 <Avatar> but there's been a lot of discussion and no ruling, so
21:23:53 <Mekkis> what's the density of the liquid in a potion?
21:23:56 <Avatar> it doesn't break the game
21:24:04 <Mekkis> I would disagree. It does
21:24:39 <Avatar> how
21:24:52 <Mekkis> it destroys action economy
21:25:06 <Avatar> no more than it does with a wand
21:25:08 <Mekkis> you've been saying that "everyone should have one"
21:25:20 <Avatar> everyone should
21:26:12 <Steven> imma go find that cool neck slot i found the other day
21:26:36 <Mekkis> what's the density of the liquid in a potion?
21:26:51 <Avatar> that doesn't matter
21:27:27 <Mekkis> but I'm not sure how you can say that a potion would fit where a dagger could
21:27:49 <Avatar> there's a description of a potion somewhere
21:27:53 <Avatar> it's only really small
21:27:54 <Blasticka> well in ultimate equipment it describes flasks
21:28:00 <Avatar> like a vial or something
21:28:05 <Blasticka> they are more like, um, a test tube size really
21:28:18 <Avatar> I think it's actually smaller than a typical test tube
21:28:27 <Mekkis> it's a cylinder, 1 inch diameter, 2 inch long
21:28:39 <Blasticka> I didn't pay tons of attention
21:28:47 <Blasticka> but yeah that's pretty small
21:29:24 <Mekkis> what weapons can you actually put in a wrist sheath?
21:29:29 <Mekkis> a dart.
21:29:41 <Mekkis> 5 shuriken
21:29:44 <Avatar> how does a ranged weapon work
21:29:50 <Mekkis> that's it
21:30:00 <Blasticka> 5 crossbow bolts
21:30:05 <Blasticka> a dagger
21:30:10 <Avatar> a ranged weapon that weighs less than 1 pound?
21:30:13 <Mekkis> nope
21:30:18 <Mekkis> dagger weighs 1 pound
21:30:30 <Mekkis> that's not "less than one pound"
21:30:35 <Avatar> I'm going off the sheath description
21:30:48 <Avatar> it's not saying "a wand that weighs one pound"
21:30:55 <Avatar> it's saying any of those three "that weighs less than one pound"
21:31:28 <Mekkis> oh
21:31:32 <Avatar> if a dagger weighs exactly 1 pound, I would be hard pressed to say sorry, that's not "less"
21:31:50 <Avatar> I would have to want my players to hate me to say that to them
21:31:56 <Mekkis> wand is 6 to 12" long, 1/4" diameter
21:32:17 <Mekkis> something with a diameter 4 times that would not necessarily fit in the sheath
21:32:20 <Avatar> I thought you said you weren't allowing wands in a sheath
21:32:26 <Mekkis> I'm not in WotW
21:32:34 <Mekkis> in PFS, I begrudgingly allow it
21:32:36 <Gamera> isnt the idea that it springs out ready to hold in your hand?
21:32:44 <Avatar> but the description is specific
21:32:49 <Mekkis> I know
21:32:58 <Mekkis> that's why I allow it in PFS
21:33:44 <Blasticka> well it does say you can put a dagger in it. so how big is the pommel of a dagger?
21:34:02 <Gamera> an african dagger or a european dagger?
21:34:13 <Avatar> there actually are no light weapons that weigh less than a pound
21:34:17 <Blasticka> lol I don't know that... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
21:34:33 <Avatar> yeah if you can put a dagger in it, you can surely put a bloody vial
21:34:50 <Blasticka> hey Gamera, what's your schedule looking like this evening?
21:34:56 <Gamera> hollow out the handle of the dagger and pour your potion in it
21:35:02 <Avatar> scrolls would be more awkward, but I have no idea how scrolls are rolled up or stored away
21:35:05 <Avatar> I assume it could be done, and that's enough
21:35:05 <Gamera> im not doing anything
21:35:10 <Gamera> y
21:35:21 <Blasticka> well, mr. Steven, myself, and my wife are wanting to play a game
21:35:30 <Gamera> a sexy game?
21:35:35 <Blasticka> would you be interested in playing or GM'ing?
21:35:43 <Gamera> nah I dont do online rpg
21:35:49 <Blasticka> no a pathfinder game you silly person. :-P
21:35:49 <Gamera> thanks
21:35:49 <Avatar> you are missing out
21:35:52 <Gamera> also I dont know pathfinder
21:35:58 <Avatar> what do you play
21:36:05 <Gamera> 3.5
21:36:11 <Avatar> it's almost the same
21:36:17 <Blasticka> it's almost the same thing they tell me
21:36:20 <Avatar> except better
21:36:22 <Gamera> do I need to buy magic underwear?
21:36:31 <Blasticka> you should roll up a character and play with us!
21:36:53 <Blasticka> Steven would you GM if we convinced a new recruit to join us?
21:37:36 <Gamera> //say $rand(1,20)
21:37:38 <Gamera> 19
21:37:46 <Gamera> oh I rolled pretty good on diplomacy there I dont think I'll play
21:37:55 <Blasticka> and Gamera I think your normal spiderman underpants are just fine
21:37:57 <Avatar> 12
21:38:01 <Avatar> I did not know you could do that
21:38:40 <Blasticka> 19 is good but my charisma modifyer and natural tenacity makes the dc a 21!
21:39:02 <Blasticka> (my intelligence is not so good sometime) I is a sorcerer.
21:39:05 <Gamera> -a 9
21:39:10 <Gamera> //say $calc($rand(1,6) + $rand(1,6) + 3)
21:39:13 <Gamera> etc
21:39:31 <Steven> there we go
21:39:34 <Steven> found it
21:39:38 <Steven> Necklace of Netted Stars
21:40:40 <Steven> its spendy but gooooood
21:40:57 <Blasticka> so it's plus 3 to story telling and native american dream catchers?
21:41:00 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's effectively a page of "letter" size paper rolled up
21:41:04 <Blasticka> or something/
21:41:08 <Gamera> maybe another time
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21:41:17 <Blasticka> awww. okay Gamera
21:41:18 <Mekkis> call it A4 and you're not too wrong
21:41:22 <Avatar> that means it rolls up better
21:41:22 <Avatar> and springs out easier
21:41:23 <Mekkis> 8.5" long
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21:41:46 <Steven> oh man you guys are still going on about the scroll thing?
21:41:52 <Mekkis> is the length of a forearm more than 8.5"
21:42:25 <Steven> mine is...
21:42:31 <Blasticka> well we could check the length of an average arrow
21:42:39 <Avatar> 12" is 30cm
21:42:45 <Avatar> my forearm is longer than that
21:42:50 <Mekkis> 1" is 25.4mm
21:43:12 <Avatar> 2.45cm
21:43:23 <Mekkis> .9mm off
21:43:46 <Blasticka> oh for crying out loud. lol
21:43:52 <Avatar> who is american here who can help us
21:44:15 <Steven> im not getting involved...
21:44:27 <Avatar> you are already involved
21:44:30 <Steven> nope
21:44:36 <Steven> I gave my answer a while ago
21:44:56 <Avatar> 25.4 you're right
21:45:10 <Steven> Table Variance
21:46:23 <Mekkis> human forearm lengths seem to range from 23cm and 27.5cm
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21:47:02 <Avatar> does anyone have a ruler nearby
21:47:19 <Avatar> that's less than 8.5", long
21:47:28 <Avatar> turn it width-ways
21:47:35 <Avatar> no dramas
21:47:40 <Avatar> laughing
21:47:54 <Mekkis> no it's more like a foot long, rolled up
21:47:59 <Mekkis> 8.5" wide
21:48:07 <Mekkis> and capped to prevent it from folding
21:51:23 <Avatar> is there a description of that in the book
21:52:16 <Mekkis> yes
21:54:13 <Mekkis> Physical Description: A scroll is a heavy sheet of fine vellum
21:54:13 <Mekkis> or high-quality paper. An area about 8-1/2 inches wide and
21:54:13 <Mekkis> 11 inches long is sufficient to hold one spell. The sheet is
21:54:13 <Mekkis> reinforced at the top and bottom with strips of leather slightly
21:54:13 <Mekkis> longer than the sheet is wide. A scroll holding more than one
21:54:13 <Mekkis> spell has the same width (about 8-1/2 inches) but is an extra
21:54:13 <Mekkis> foot or so long for each additional spell.
21:54:13 <Mekkis> Scrolls that hold three
21:54:13 <Mekkis> or more spells are usually fitted with reinforcing rods at each
21:54:13 <Mekkis> end rather than simple strips of leather. A scroll has AC 9, 1 hit
21:54:13 <Mekkis> point, hardness 0, and a break DC of 8.
21:54:13 <Mekkis> To protect it from wrinkling or tearing, a scroll is rolled
21:54:13 <Mekkis> up from both ends to form a double cylinder. (This also helps
21:54:13 <Mekkis> the user unroll the scroll quickly.) The scroll is placed in a
21:54:13 <Mekkis> tube of ivory, jade, leather, metal, or wood. Most scroll cases
21:54:13 <Mekkis> are inscribed with magic symbols which often identify the
21:54:13 <Mekkis> owner or the spells stored on the scrolls inside. The symbols
21:54:13 <Mekkis> sometimes hide magic traps.
21:54:17 <Mekkis> oops
21:54:43 <Avatar> everything about the description tells me it would work
21:54:56 <Avatar> I don't know what the capped bit means, but that's no in the wording
21:55:10 <Avatar> and 8.5" is short enough for the forearm
21:55:41 <Mekkis> 215.9mm
21:56:05 <Mekkis> that's very close to the length of the forearm
21:56:19 <Blasticka> in the ultimate equipment, this magical armor type invulnerability says cl 18. does that mean character level 18th required?
21:56:53 <Mekkis> no
21:57:43 <Avatar> it's borderline both ways
21:57:58 <Avatar> I'd allow it, it still doesn't break the game, which is the bigger issue
21:58:16 <Mekkis> I believe it does break the game. The quickrunner's shirt was banned, for instance
21:59:34 <Avatar> was it
21:59:37 <Avatar> when did that happen
22:02:27 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2onps?Quickrunners-Shirt-Overpowered#5
22:02:35 <Mekkis> it was caught before UE became legal
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22:07:15 <Mekkis> for a weapon to fit in a wrist sheath, it pretty much needs to be designed for it
22:08:35 <Avatar> wrist sheaths aren't designed for specific weapons
22:08:52 <Avatar> any light weapon, any ranged weapon, any wand that weighs a pound
22:12:48 <Steven> i say you guys settle this with a character fight
22:12:53 <Mekkis> I'm looking at wrist sheaths
22:13:04 <Mekkis> ok. I'll bring Lucent.
22:13:44 <Steven> PFS Legal, max level of.... 7
22:13:56 <Mekkis> make it 10
22:14:06 <Blasticka> can I watch?
22:14:08 <Steven> nope.... 7
22:19:54 <Yiroep> Lol wrist sheaths.
22:19:56 <Mekkis> well, the sheaths weigh 1lb
22:20:07 <Yiroep> The item of unending argument.
22:20:19 <Mekkis> I'd like you to try and swing a sword with 1lb strapped to each arm
22:21:55 <Mekkis> but the fact is that people don't read the wrist sheaths and weapon cord's descriptions
22:23:28 <Yiroep> "The sheath can hold one forearm-length item such as a dagger, dart, or wand, or up to five arrows or crossbow bolts. Alternatively, you may store up to 1 pound of ammunition in a wrist sheath. "
22:25:22 <Steven> Table Variance.
22:26:16 <Steven> alright been up too late... goin to sleep
22:26:30 <Steven> peace bitches
22:33:54 <Blasticka> take it easy Steven
22:35:24 <Steven> will
22:39:01 <Mekkis> I wonder how Ballig's taking the news regarding his new boss
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