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04:51 <Mekkis>  In my spare time I climb things, open strange doors, and go to goth clubs dressed as a frat guy so I can stand around and look terribly uncomfortable. At frat parties I do the same thing, but the other way around."
38:22 <spider21b> nothing much
48:45 <spider21b> so what happend with today's game?
49:42 <Mekkis> that's a good question
53:28 <Mekkis> what are you doing, Brunius 
53:34 <Mekkis> I thought you had the car thingy on
55:15 <Brunius> My friend has chess today and we're waiting for parts to come in
55:33 <Brunius> Turns out ordering from america doesn't work that well if you want to actually work on stuff
56:09 <Brunius> I was intending to go to an SCA event today, too, but there was heavy rain and we usually meet in a drainage basin
56:31 <Mekkis> of course!
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14:42 <Falang> *sigh*
15:13 <Wrothmonk> ?
15:21 <spider21b> hum?
17:20 <Wrothmonk> why the *sigh*?
17:52 <Ashar> ...probably irritating the crap out of you guys too. I'll come back when it's better.. 
38:06 <Wrothmonk> Hello
39:08 <Brunius> Wasn't this joker spamming yesterday
39:19 <Mekkis> not spamming
39:19 <Brunius> Clue: Yes
39:20 <centurian> hey not the jester
39:23 <Mekkis> just inanely talking
39:27 <centurian> probably
39:29 <Mekkis> centurian, what does D&D stand for?
39:35 <syraned> hi
39:42 <Mekkis> hej
39:45 <centurian> i know but i won't say it
39:49 <centurian> lol
39:53 <Mekkis> why not?
39:54 <centurian> seen the movie
39:59 <Mekkis> movie?
40:11 <centurian> jim carey
40:17 <centurian> think
40:23 <centurian> but don't say
40:33 <Mekkis> spit it out
40:34 <Wrothmonk> I think we are thinking about different d&ds
41:15 <centurian> scratches his head
41:26 <centurian> feels kinda gloomy
41:29 <centurian> hint
41:39 <Mekkis> no hints, spit it out.
41:48 <centurian> cabkeman
41:51 <centurian> cableman
41:58 <centurian> lol
42:16 <Brunius> So, sup syraned
44:13 <syraned> im new to pathfinder
44:27 <syraned> looking to join a few noob friendly games to learn
44:27 <syraned> :)
45:14 <Mekkis> we have many of those
48:49 <syraned> how do I join
49:03 <syraned> I've watched a few vids ad n read the beginners box books a bit
49:08 <Mekkis> ?guide
49:09 <diebot> Mekkis, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
49:16 <Mekkis> download that and read it up
49:33 <Mekkis> and sign up on http://dnd.ballig.net 
49:37 <Mekkis> Then create a character
49:47 <Mekkis> if you have any questions, ask them here
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11:01 <Mekkis> WOW
11:06 <Mekkis> We have errata on stealth!@
13:14 <Brunius> Huh
15:30 <Mekkis> Breaking Stealth: When you start your turn using Stealth, you can leave cover or concealment and remain unobserved as long as you succeed at a Stealth check and end your turn in cover or concealment. Your Stealth immediately ends after you make and attack roll, whether or not the attack is successful (except when sniping as noted below).
15:57 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/CoreRulebookErrata_1.4.zip
19:03 <Wrothmonk> That seems like a semi-fix to stealth!
19:06 <Mekkis> better not show him the hostmask I'm using
19:40 <Brunius> because?
20:03 <Mekkis> he can obviously change his IP. Banning his name would be bad if he knew I was banning his name
20:45 <Mekkis> but yeah
20:52 <Mekkis> rogues now... don't suck as much
20:59 <Mekkis> don't get me wrong. They still suck.
21:25 <Wrothmonk> hey, isnt there a feat that lets you make an attack while moving?
21:30 <Mekkis> yes
21:40 <Mekkis> the feat is &spring attack
22:13 <Wrothmonk> oh wait that wouldnt work...
22:19 <Wrothmonk> since it ends at the first attack.
22:43 <Mekkis> if you're moving you can't full-attack regardless
22:55 <Wrothmonk> Another good point.
23:55 <Mekkis> oh
24:09 <Mekkis> Cape of the Mountebank now costs 720gp more
24:20 <Mekkis> I'm glad Heneski bought his on the cheap
24:29 <Wrothmonk> !item Cape of the mountebank
24:33 <diebot> Wrothmonk, CAPE OF THE MOUNTEBANK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 shoulders 10800gp, 1lb
24:33 <diebot> Once per day on command, this bright red and gold cape allows the wearer to use the magic of the dimension door spell. When he disappears, he leaves behind a cloud of harmless gray smoke, appearing in a similar dramatic fashion at his destination. Source: Ultimate Equipment
24:52 <Mekkis> used to be 10080
25:31 <Wrothmonk> Neat trick. What is the range?
26:10 <Mekkis> So I have Mytiazair, who has A Staff of Stealth obtained pre-errata. Grolschmir who has the pre-errata Heirloom Weapon. Deceased who has a pre-errata Staff of Toxins, and Heneski who has a pre-errata cape of the mountebank.
26:27 <Mekkis> Great. my first four characters all have grandfathered items
26:39 <Wrothmonk> Had to happen at some point.
27:44 <Mekkis> a few balance-adjustments to tbe monk
28:07 <Mekkis> back in 2009 I asked why the monk still had the weak ability of Slow Fall
28:21 <Mekkis> Buhlman said "legacy"
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36:20 <Mekkis> Steven, there's new CRB errata!
36:27 <Mekkis> stealth probably works now
38:09 <Steven> right...
40:58 <spider21b> hey, so in a game you dont have time to use most spells what do you do?
41:32 <Brunius> add a function word
41:35 <Brunius> maybe two
41:46 <Steven> so.... wheres the errata?
42:03 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/CoreRulebookErrata_1.4.zip
43:07 <Mekkis> spider21b, you use the most suitable spells, obv
51:55 <Wrothmonk> it changes it so you can actually move out from cover with another stealth roll.
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53:51 <bloodlust> evening all :)
53:57 <centurian> hello
54:01 <centurian> bloodlust
54:13 <Steven> yeah reading it now
56:21 <bloodlust> how are you?
56:36 * bloodlust is trying to rustle up one more game lol.  
56:36 <centurian> yeah working on it
56:59 <bloodlust> Looks like I need one more for my level 2 so I can get him to 3 by Thursday's game of Way of the Kirin
00:47 <centurian> lol
05:03 <centurian> we'll be over it
12:25 <Steven> some interesting changes
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17:37 <Mekkis> still think Sneak attack should do 2d6+1d6 per level and have a caveat or 1 use/round
23:08 <Mekkis> Steven, can you use a bonded item to counterspell?
57:43 <Avatar> they fixed stealth?
00:31 <Wrothmonk> I wouldnt say completely fixed until I have seen it in action. I would however say it has been improved.
01:28 <Avatar> the breaking stealth paragraph is strange
01:47 <Avatar> does that mean if you leave cover, make a successful stealth check, then make a sneak attack, then you're out of cover
01:53 <Avatar> the sneak attack still works?
02:17 <Avatar> is that paragraph just talking about staying unobserved at the end of the turn
16:28 <Wrothmonk> the sneak attack still works but you lose stealth.
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37:56 <Avatar> lol they buffed haste
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01:06 <Mekkis> they did?
01:08 <Mekkis> how so?
07:25 <Avatar> works with natural attacks now
15:36 <Mekkisx200> it didn't before?
21:24 <Steven> RAW it did not
24:11 <Mekkisx200> !spell haste
24:16 <diebot> Mekkisx200, HASTE transmutation ([]) alchemist 3, bard 3, magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, M (a shaving of licorice root) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
24:16 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/haste.html
25:14 <Mekkisx200> When making a full attack action, a hasted creature may make one extra attack with one natural or manufactured weapon
36:30 <spider21b> i see
36:47 <centurian> lol
36:52 <centurian> what do you see
38:20 <Brunius> Mekkis
38:25 <Brunius> Mekkisx200
38:30 <Brunius> Avatar
38:30 <spider21b> that haste is awesome
38:33 <Brunius> Steven
38:41 <centurian> the invisible crime squad
38:44 <centurian> hahahah
38:49 <centurian> the army
39:02 <centurian> phaoroahs
43:40 <centurian> nobody gives the serpent instructions
56:01 <Mekkisx200> oh
56:03 <Mekkisx200> fun
56:04 <Mekkisx200> brb
58:32 <diebot> SPRING ATTACK [Combat]Prereq:  Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, base attack bonus +4.  You can deftly move up to a foe, strike, and withdraw before he can react.
58:32 <diebot> Benefit:  As a full-round action, you can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack. You can move both before and after the attack, but you must move at least 10 feet before the attack and the total distance that you move cannot be greater than your speed. You
58:32 <diebot> cannot use this ability to attack a foe that is adjacent to you at the start of your turn.
58:32 <diebot> Normal:  You cannot move before and after an attack. Source: Core
58:40 <Mekkisx200> :o
58:50 <Mekkisx200> I didn't expect that
59:26 <Mekkisx200> why don't you just give Brunius ops?
59:43 <Brunius> Who wants a moody 16 year old with ops
59:53 <Mekkisx200> I do
00:09 <Brunius> Have I accidentally ignored someone? Was anyone but centurian talking just then?
00:12 <Mekkisx200> throw some responsibility your way
01:40 <Mekkisx200> what could possibly go wrong
02:07 <Mekkisx200> hmmm
02:09 <Mekkisx200> 5 zombies
02:17 <spider21b> why soo many zomibes?
02:41 <Mekkisx200> because I'm not sending SIGCHILD to them like a good boy
07:30 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate
07:35 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate35
07:36 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 20: Elf 
07:40 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate Pathfinder
07:41 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 93: Kobold
07:45 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate30
07:46 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 83: Pixie 
07:48 <Mekkisx200> :o
07:57 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate mort
08:03 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate Mort
08:03 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 17:  Gnome
20:59 <Steven> i think its time for some sleep
34:01 <Avatar> what is thursday's game 
35:15 * ChanOP sets ban on centurian!*@*
58:31 * ChanOP sets ban on centurian!*@*.dodo.com.au
58:38 * Avatar removes ban on centurian!*@*
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17:36 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 7th 6pm (1-7,Avatar) | WotW: Sat 8th 1.30pm | TrS: Sun 2nd 10am || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
17:36 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Jun  1 19:49:06 2013
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05:42 <Mekkis>  In my spare time I climb things, open strange doors, and go to goth clubs dressed as a frat guy so I can stand around and look terribly uncomfortable. At frat parties I do the same thing, but the other way around."
14:30 <Mekkis> The bill proposed in Pennsylvania stated that any driver of a car, when he or she sees cattle or horses up ahead on the road, must immediately take three actions in order: the driver must a) stop the vehicle, b) disassemble the vehicle completely, and c) hide all the parts in the nearest shrubbery until the animals have passed.
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28:38 <Mekkis> Brunius|M, http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/old90/constant.html
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17:55 <Brunius|M-> Ha
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09:09 <spider21b> hi
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54:41 <bloodlust> evening all :)
54:47 <centurian> hello
54:51 <centurian> bloodlust
57:11 <bloodlust> how are you?
57:26 * bloodlust is trying to rustle up one more game lol.  
57:26 <centurian> yeah working on it
57:49 <bloodlust> Looks like I need one more for my level 2 so I can get him to 3 by Thursday's game of Way of the Kirin
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01:36 <centurian> lol
05:53 <centurian> we'll be over it
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08:03 <Brunius_mib> It appears x-chat is having some trouble.
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09:11 <Brunius_mib> hmmm
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14:11 <Mekkis> time to call centrelink
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16:03 <Brunius> Well that was strange
16:06 <Brunius> Fucking windows
27:59 <Mekkis> WOW
28:07 <Mekkis> a centrelink call took less than 11 minutes!
28:13 <Mekkis> what's going on here!
28:17 <Mekkis> the world must be crazy
28:20 <Brunius> Sure it was centrelink?
28:25 <Brunius> Maybe you were scammed
28:29 <Mekkis> shit
28:49 <Mekkis> That was a dumb call though
29:14 <Mekkis> "Hi, I've found a job, starting July 1" "Well, you can keep reporting your income, and receiving payments"
29:35 <Mekkis> "But, I'm not going to be looking for work in the meantime"
29:47 <Mekkis> "Just keep reporting your income."
29:49 <Mekkis> wtf
29:59 <Mekkis> "Aren't I supposed to be looking for work?"
33:00 <Mekkis> So Brunius 
33:08 <Mekkis> What are your plans for WotW?
33:31 <Brunius> Rise in the ranks of asmodean church
33:39 <Mekkis> I meant short-term
33:43 <Brunius> or possibly the correctly spelled variant
33:50 <Mekkis> short-term plans
33:59 <Brunius> I believe I was posing as Sir Balin's squire
34:04 <Mekkis> You have a month to weaken the fortress of Balintine.
34:17 <Mekkis> how do you intend to do so?
34:21 <Brunius> Speaking of WotW, is that running this saturday?
34:24 <Mekkis> yes
34:51 <Avatar> what is thursday's game 
41:21 <Mekkis> but it'd be good if you had some form of plan
41:29 <Mekkis> given that you're in a rather sandboxy area
42:44 <Mekkis> and I know how well those go without plans
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53:28 <Mekkis> wftc, Brunius
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15:36 <Avatar> sup
16:19 <Steven> notta just got back from pfs
16:25 <Steven> eatn dinner
16:38 <Avatar> jealous!
17:01 <Brunius> wtf
17:03 <Steven> i could have gotten a TPK
17:04 <Brunius> 500 ping to SA
17:07 <Brunius> Something is wrong here
17:12 <Steven> but i was nice.
17:55 <Steven> didnt bomb the unconcious people
18:51 <Steven> even though i should have considering the grouping
22:20 <Avatar> don't know if anyone's noticed, but people don't have to be invited to certain games to sign up for them anymore
22:50 <Avatar> games like wotw will be set to invite only still
23:54 <Steven> cool
24:14 <Steven> 81 tables of credit... woot woot.
24:29 <Avatar> nice 1
24:39 <Avatar> I have uhh
24:44 <Avatar> 51 I think
25:30 <Steven> so, i'll be at 90 on july 3rd
25:47 <Avatar> isn't 100 the milestone
26:04 <Steven> 2 from rotrl camp, so i need to pick up.... 5 before paizocon
29:32 <Steven> yeah 5 games and i will become a 4 star GM after Running Bonekeep.
31:10 <Avatar> I need one more 7-11
31:40 <Avatar> do that one mekkis wanted maybe
31:48 <Avatar> f* of the fiend
31:51 <Avatar> I don't remember which one
31:53 <Steven> what one did mekkis want?
31:57 <Steven> fury of the fiend?
31:59 <Avatar> fingerprints or fury
32:07 <Avatar> he wants both of them
32:56 <Mekkis> the season 2 one, mainly
33:03 <Avatar> fury
34:55 <Steven> nope not GMing that one over skype.
35:18 <Avatar> why not
36:01 <Steven> i hate that scenaro.
36:09 <Steven> its annoying, and people get mad every time.
36:36 <Avatar> haha okay
38:58 <Steven> i ran it in person and it was a 7 hour game.
39:05 <Steven> so... dont feel like running it again
39:35 <Avatar> fucking 7 hour games
39:59 <Avatar> I remember sewer dragons of absalom went for 8 hours when I ran it
40:09 <Avatar> that was a standout one that I remember, can't remember why though
40:30 <Brunius> Did the goblins in the roof bomb them
41:39 <Mekkis> Echoes of the everwar 2,3,4
41:51 <Avatar> wrong scenario brunius
42:08 <Avatar> I can run everwar 3 and 4
42:32 <Avatar> there's a boon for playing all 4, and I've accidentally run Buck out of tier to play all 4
42:43 <Mekkis> it's 7-11, right?
42:49 <Avatar> yeah, all of them are
42:57 <Mekkis> how is Buck out of tier?
43:05 <Avatar> he only has one scenario left to get to 12
43:10 <Avatar> and hasn't played 1 and 2
43:19 <Mekkis> who played 1?
43:26 <Mekkis> weren't you at my table?
43:33 <Avatar> oh was I
43:42 <Avatar> not with Buck maybe
43:57 <Avatar> yeah with Snickers
44:00 <Avatar> oops
44:16 <Avatar> so I guess I can GM 1,3 and 4
44:17 <Mekkis_x200> so you should play 2 with snickers and run 3 and 4 for us :)
44:34 <Avatar> yeah I could do that, if I can find a table for part 2
44:52 <Mekkis_x200> trouble is, I don't particularly want to downtier Deceased any more, given that he's 10, and rather powerful for 10
45:06 <Avatar> convince the table to uptier
45:33 <Mekkis_x200> Also, Avatar and Steven: what's your plan for WotW
45:41 <Mekkis_x200> How do you plan on weakening the tower
45:42 <Avatar> I'm more inclined to give my tables an idea of the difficulty level if they're going to cakewalk it or if it's going to be way too tough
45:45 <Mekkis_x200> so I can prep
45:53 <Avatar> er, what did we say
46:07 <Avatar> we wrote it down that day in channel
46:15 <Mekkis_x200> that was just your disguises
46:24 <Avatar> the whole plan was there
46:29 <Avatar> it was quite elaborate 
46:37 <Mekkis_x200> nope, just your disguises
46:55 <Avatar> what exactly are our options
47:06 <Avatar> it's a bit hard to tell, all we know that exists is the tavern and I think the tower?
47:12 <Avatar> and no layout for either
47:25 <Mekkis> to quote the scenario:
47:32 <Mekkis>    How exactly the PCs carry out this mission is very
47:32 <Mekkis> much up to them. Don’t suggest strategies. Instead allow
47:32 <Mekkis> player actions to discover facts and let the players them-
47:32 <Mekkis> selves develop their own strategies.
47:53 <Avatar> not asking you to suggest strategies
47:53 <Avatar> just what's actually there
48:41 <Mekkis> Aldencross is a market town
48:53 <Avatar> that the book is saying don't tell them anything is actually good to know
49:38 <Mekkis> it's pretty small: main notables are the inn and the marketplace. There are a few houses and shops.
49:51 <Mekkis> Up the hill is the tower of Balentyne
49:55 <Avatar> does the tower receive any direct trading
49:58 <Avatar> from any merchants
50:05 <Avatar> can we gather some intel on the tower
50:18 <Mekkis> Anything else requires Gather Information (diplomacy) checks, and action.
50:19 <Avatar> movements and whatnot
50:37 <Avatar> do you want us to make rolls now or in gametime
50:48 <Mekkis> in game
51:01 <Avatar> okay that'll be my first steps
51:05 <Mekkis> because each Gather Information takes a certain amount of ingame time
51:15 <Avatar> we can formulate a plan from what we find out
51:37 <Mekkis> And you only have one month
51:43 <Avatar> it seems a little easy because we have a month and our initial plan is "go in"
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51:51 <Avatar> what else can we do except gather intel
51:55 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@203.171.34EFA1.281A2A
51:55 Avatar has kicked I-HATE-AUSSIES-AND-AUSTRALIA from #d&d (bye)
52:04 <Avatar> that takes time
52:06 <Avatar> not much I think
52:28 <Avatar> find a nice beach
52:35 <Avatar> lay out the towels, surf some waves
52:53 <Mekkis> Learn about significant people
52:54 <Avatar> I guess maybe some take 20 perceptioning
53:00 <Mekkis> try to interact with people
53:04 <Mekkis> search places
53:10 <Avatar> yeah that's intel
53:33 <Mekkis> Craft stuff
53:41 <Mekkis> or buy stuff
53:54 <Avatar> don't think any of us got craft feats
54:00 <Avatar> at level 5 I will likely take craft wand
54:01 <Steven> I plan on trying to get a job at the Inn/Tavern
54:02 <Mekkis> work an honest job
54:11 <Avatar> sif work 
54:27 <Avatar> we weren't sent to war to go get a job
54:43 <Mekkis> work a dishonest job
54:50 <Mekkis> brb, grilling some ribs
55:05 <Steven> So we have a person that 'belongs' in a tavern/inn soaking up the gossip/rumors
55:17 <Steven> I'm willing to bet soldiers spend time down there.
55:39 <Steven> my characters got a 15cha... so shes pretty, they get drunk, they talk.
56:00 <Mekkis_x200> is your character "pretty". You never described her as such.
56:20 <Steven> shes got kind of pale skin, but super blue eyes
56:26 <Mekkis_x200> it was more like unwashed, uncouth, and stinking
56:35 <Steven> and im currently disguised as having hair.
56:54 <Steven> yes, but knowing thats not likely to ingratiate myself to anyone, she would bathe.
57:30 <Steven> I made mention of buying an acceptable looking dress
57:34 <Steven> instead of my normal rags
59:43 <Mekkis_x200> When is Gencon, Steven?
00:10 <Steven> August, 15-18th
00:15 <Mekkis_x200> ooh
00:47 <Steven> Paizocon July 5-7th
00:51 <Mekkis_x200> ok
01:16 <Steven> Pax Prime Aug 30th-sep2nd
01:23 <Mekkis_x200> I'll schedule WotW around that then
01:28 <Mekkis_x200> hmm
01:42 <Steven> Spocon Aug 9-11th
02:12 <Mekkis_x200> So no WotW in August (after the 3rd)
02:40 <Steven> So, July 5-7th, August 9-11th, Aug 15-18th, Aug30th-Sep2nd
02:57 <Steven> And theres something end of july
03:03 <Steven> but i dont remember what it was.
03:16 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar, for the record, I won't be running WotW those weekends.
03:31 <Mekkis_x200> Or August 24.
03:47 <Steven> i'll be running games on every one of those weekends
04:03 <Mekkis_x200> I imagined that
04:06 <Steven> actually 4-8 games.
04:27 <Steven> probably more like 7 games per weekend.
04:47 <Steven> my voice is going to hate me so much by PaxPrime
04:49 <Mekkis_x200> you still do three slots per day?
05:29 <Steven> at paizocon doing 5 slots scheduled, and showing up for muster for the 6th slot
05:40 <Mekkis_x200> as in schedule 3 slots per day?
05:40 <Steven> Gencon doing 7 scheduled, showing up to muster for the others
06:12 <Steven> 2-2-2 for Paizocon
06:19 <Steven> skipping a slot on day 2
07:10 <Steven> oh shit thats right, i changed my schedule for that
07:18 <Steven> nevermind, doing all 6 slots for paizocon
07:54 <Steven> Slot 1: Friday 8 A.M. to 1 P.M.
07:54 <Steven> Slot 2: Friday 1 P.M. to 6 P.M.
07:54 <Steven> Slot 3: Friday 7 P.M. to 12 A.M. 
07:54 <Steven> Slot 4: Saturday 8 A.M. to 1 P.M.
07:54 <Steven> Slot 5: Saturday 1 P.M. to 6 P.M.
07:54 <Steven> Slot 6: Sunday 9 A.M. to 2 P.M.
08:29 <Steven> saturday night they are doing the Banquet... where they announce a bunch of stuff they are planning for PFS/Pathfinder
08:39 <Steven> last year they announced the card game and a VTT
09:40 <Steven> dunno what they gonna do this year...
10:09 <Mekkis_x200>  maybe they'll show off the tabletop
10:21 <Mekkis_x200> I wish they'd make the high-resolution maps available
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10:43 <Steven> that guy is mad at you aussie pigs.
10:45 <Mekkis_x200> I bet KILL-ALL-YOU-AUSSIE-PIGS is Australian
10:51 <Steven> glad none of you are pigs.
10:55 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@202.124.21248F.C864A4
10:55 Avatar has kicked KILL-ALL-YOU-AUSSIE-PIGS from #d&d (bye)
11:08 <Steven> at gencon im GMing 8/10 slots
11:49 <Steven> sadly i didnt get the number 1 picks
12:02 <Steven> So im GMing 4-18 and 4-07
12:10 <Steven> and of course bonekeep and the special
12:41 <Steven> because im totaly wanting a goblin boon or this years equivilant
16:36 <Steven> i has icecream!
16:41 <Avatar> get me one
18:06 <Steven> i dont think you coul handle it
18:29 <Avatar> that's where you're wrong
18:56 <Steven> im not going to risk it
21:05 <Steven> golden chocolate and salted caramel
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34:24 <Mekkis_x200> oh
34:32 <Mekkis_x200> regarding "belonging" in an inn...
34:45 <Mekkis_x200> People aren't really going to care if you spend all your time in the inn
34:52 <Mekkis_x200> especially if you're buying them drinks!
48:50 <Mekkis_x200> "Disarm the citizenry - leave guns to the criminals: like us, in the military. Prohibition is the key; we need a War on Guns. It'll work great, like our War on Drugs."
52:15 <Brunius> I think I'm gonna watch Generation Kill again
53:42 <Mekkis_x200> I think you shouldn't
53:52 <Brunius> too late
54:04 <Mekkis_x200> you should instead get Steven to run something now
54:27 <Brunius> yo steven, buddy, run something
54:40 <Wrothmonk> No, dont, please. He will make me run something.
54:56 <Mekkis_x200> yo Wrothmonk, run something!
55:53 * Wrothmonk makes a fist but for some reason the signal from the brain to do so somehow misses the finger third from the right.
57:49 <Brunius> ring finger?
58:25 <Wrothmonk> thumb, index, middle. you count the last one.
58:38 <Mekkis_x200> why do I have the PHB for 2e open?
01:34 <Avatar> Wrothmonk: don't you want to run games
02:08 <Wrothmonk> well not at 3 am.
02:22 <Avatar> generally though you're good aye
02:32 <Mekkis_x200> run it at 10am tomorrow!
03:02 <Wrothmonk> my time or yours?
03:08 <Mekkis_x200> mine
03:23 <Avatar> I think only mekkis will be here to play that one
03:41 <Brunius> If it lasted less than three hours I could play
03:55 <Avatar> if it lasted less than three minutes I could play
04:27 <Brunius> Thursday I can play pretty much any time after 10
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21:48 <Mekkis_x200> Should I run Sanos on Thursday?
40:15 <Steven> im just going to try to find some work in a tavern, or if i cant, maybe the tower.
40:39 <Steven> also, i cant sleep
41:07 <Mekkis> wtf
41:09 <Mekkis> 48 rooms
41:27 <Mekkis> in Balintyne
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03:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, Schedule 4-05 Sanos Abduction for Thursday 10:30am please
03:34 <Mekkis> we'll see who signs up
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31:39 <Avatar> soitanly
32:09 <Avatar> what tier is that
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59:00 <Mekkis> !item ioun stone, vibrant purple
59:04 <diebot> Mekkis, IOUN STONE, VIBRANT PURPLE PRISM [strong varied] CL:12 none 36000gp, 0lb
59:05 <diebot> These crystalline stones always float in the air and must be within 3 feet of their owner to be of any use. When a character first acquires a stone, she must hold it and then release it, whereupon it takes up a circling orbit 1d3 feet from her head. Thereafter, a stone must be grasped or netted to separate it from its owner. The owner may
59:05 <diebot> voluntarily seize and stow a stone (to keep it safe while she is sleeping, for example), but she loses the benefits of the stone during that time. Ioun stones have AC 24, 10 hit points, and hardness 5. Stores three levels of spells, as a ring of spell storing. Stored spells in the vibrant purple stone must be placed by a spellcaster but can be used
59:05 <diebot> by anyone (see ring of minor spell storing). Source: PFRPG Core
10:41 <Falang> and why I shouldn't have turned them off ;)
17:01 <Avatar> only 36000gp
17:29 <Avatar> can't anyone seize it
17:43 <Avatar> I thought that was the big disadvantage with ioun stones
21:18 <Mekkis> it's no harder to steal than a headband
37:13 <Avatar> but this is floating around your head
37:18 <Avatar> in the air
37:44 <Avatar> what happens if something just gets in the way of where it's floating
38:27 <Mekkis> it stears out of the way
44:06 <Avatar> so theoretically you could use it as a weapon if you just kept steering it out of the way 
44:19 <Avatar> at some point it will become trapped
44:24 <Avatar> THEN WHAT HAPPENS
49:23 <Mekkis> then you'll die
50:32 <Mekkis> (because your head's totally constrained
50:35 <Mekkis> )
51:35 <Avatar> no your head blocks the ioun stone from getting out
52:13 <Avatar> what if it has nowhere else to go except the wall, the edge of your head, and my hot little hand
52:23 <Avatar> bazang i've got your ioun stone
56:14 <Mekkis> I cut off your hand
02:25 <Avatar> you are tied up or paralysed or some such
02:42 <Mekkis> the it doesn't matter
02:49 <Avatar> oh it matters
02:58 <Mekkis> any of your equipment is fair game
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06:50 <Bloodlust> Evening all :)
06:54 <Mekkis> evening
07:26 <Bloodlust> Hey mekkis do you know how much gold you get for Kalkamedes? 
07:36 <Bloodlust> I'm waiting on a chronicle sheet and want to work out my finances
07:46 <Mekkis> Kalkamedes?
10:05 <Bloodlust> Night march of Kalkamedes
10:15 <Bloodlust> 4-19
10:19 <Mekkis> haven't played it
10:34 <Bloodlust> Okay thanks :)
10:46 <Mekkis> sorry I can't help
11:39 <Bloodlust> No worries.  I thought you may have and might know, or have it in your scenarios to GM :)
12:17 <Mekkis> I don't buy all the scenarios
12:23 <Mekkis> only about 50%
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12:34 <Mekkis> (and season 4 annoys me)
15:08 <Bloodlust> how come?
16:19 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuup
16:27 <Steven> how do i unvoice myself again
17:05 <Steven> hate this damn @ by my name
17:12 <Mekkis> done
17:20 <Mekkis> /mode #d&d -o Steven 
17:20 <Mekkis> preparation
18:06 <Mekkis> Season 1-3, you print the scenario, read it two or three times, read the statblocks and tactics, prepare maps, organise minis, and you're ready to run it.
18:20 <Bloodlust> okay
18:24 <Bloodlust> 4?
18:31 <Steven> yay
18:34 <Steven> no more @
18:49 <Steven> i think im going to have taco's for dinner
19:34 <Falang> tacos.
20:10 <Mekkis> Season 4, you print the scenario, read it, realise that they've chosen some monster out of Bestiary 3 you've never heard of, look it up, print off its statblock. Realise that you need to apply the young template, apply it, hope you're correct. Do the same for the next three encounters. Then reread the scenario, read your statblocks (that you hope are right), read tactics, prepare maps, organise minis... then TPK because you missed the bit that said "on 
20:10 <Mekkis> a table of four, apply the sickened condition to $NPCs".
20:58 <Mekkis> I mean, before they playtest the scenario, they HAVE to have the proper statblocks in front of them!
21:37 <Bloodlust> dang
22:14 <Bloodlust> Why isn't all of the relevant information for the monster listed in the encounter?
22:49 <Mekkis> because people were complaining that in season 1-3,you wouldn't see many monsters from bestiary 2 and 3, or classes from APG
23:06 <Bloodlust> That would make the most sense.  Is it to cut down on words (limit)?
23:14 <Mekkis> SO they said, "Hey, let's broaden the GM Core Assumption to include those books"
23:19 <Mekkis> pretty much, yeah
23:46 <Mekkis> So now, rather than prepping by reading the scenario, you're prepping by building monsters and statblocks
24:29 <Mekkis> Last I checked, PDFs didn't really care how big they are. Look at my final year Integrated Circuit Design report!
31:09 <Brunius|M-> Tacos
31:30 <Mekkis> tacos
31:46 <Wrothmonk> bacon taco http://dudefoods.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/BaconWeaveTaco311.jpg
32:51 <Wrothmonk> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1917/ tachos!
33:01 <Brunius|M-> Trust America
33:14 <Wrothmonk> to clog your arteries.
35:25 <Avatar> oops, 49 tables of credit
36:03 <Mekkis> oops?
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38:19 <Avatar> I said 51 earlier
41:35 <Falang> *sigh*
42:31 <Bloodlust> lol
42:48 <Mekkis> I hope they fix it in season 5
42:53 <Bloodlust> Avatar have you played Kalkamedes?
43:12 <Mekkis> Bloodlust, why don't you run it for us?
46:13 <Bloodlust> I only just played in it myself lol
46:31 <Avatar> never heard of it
46:31 <Mekkis> so? Means it's fresh!
46:32 <Bloodlust> I've not GM'ed a game before but I'd be keen
46:37 <Bloodlust> 4-19
46:50 <Avatar> is it a scenario
46:57 <Bloodlust> It is a great scenario though
47:05 <Bloodlust> yup, scenario #4-19
47:05 <Avatar> you can tell what people have played on the site
47:14 <Avatar> put your name in as the GM, and select your players
47:17 <Mekkis> it was released last week
47:26 <Mekkis> it's unlikely anyone except Steven has played it here
47:37 <Bloodlust> I don't know how to use the software, etc.
47:45 <Avatar> do you need a runthrough
47:48 <Avatar> it's pretty super easy
48:20 <Bloodlust> The good thing about this scenario is that there is very little in the way of combat but lots of tasks and problem solving
48:28 <Avatar> just need 3 buttons in the toolbar: grid settings, background and background offset
48:44 <Avatar> put in the background and the rest writes itself
48:45 <Bloodlust> When I'm on holidays I'll run some stuff
48:53 <Avatar> get Some PDF Image Extract to get the maps
48:58 <Avatar> v1.5
49:03 <Bloodlust> That will give me enough time to learn how it's done and learn how the system works
49:13 <Avatar> it's not time consuming
49:19 <Avatar> it's a 5 minute thing
49:45 <Mekkis> Bloodlust, start by working out if it's a good scenario to run online
49:56 <Bloodlust> Well I played it online
50:04 <Mekkis> Often a scenario with lots of roleplay and problem solving isn't ideal for online play
50:09 <Bloodlust> I loved it, but I'm a good problem solver
50:16 <Avatar> they're all good scenarios to run online
50:41 <Mekkis> I think something like Rebel's Ransom shouldn't be run online
50:44 <Bloodlust> When we played it we only had one combat for the entire game
50:55 <Bloodlust> never played that
50:58 <Avatar> rebel's ransom was fine
51:09 <Mekkis> it only took... how long?
51:13 <Mekkis> ten hours?
51:29 <Mekkis> more like seven or eight
52:10 <Bloodlust> my record for a game is 8.5 hours
52:12 <Avatar> yeah work on your time management chief
52:25 <Mekkis> it helps if the players aren't dumkopfs
52:27 <Bloodlust> a tie between Storval Stairs and Mantis's Prey
52:49 <Avatar> I think it was pretty clear the players weren't to blame
52:52 <Bloodlust> I think I'm a pretty efficient player
53:17 <Mekkis> Avatar, given how long it took you to solve the "sort by value" problem, I would disagree.
53:26 <Bloodlust> Well...one player in particular made it harder
53:41 <Bloodlust> how long did Disappeared take?
53:47 <Bloodlust> That was another marathon
54:02 <Avatar> yeah disappeared can be rough
54:04 <Bloodlust> but that one was just frustrating
56:27 <Mekkis> What is the drag coefficient of a brick?
56:38 <Mekkis> It took you about 85 minutes.
56:45 <Mekkis> to do that puzzle
57:03 <Bloodlust> I wasn't doing the puzzle
57:07 <Mekkis> (and unfortunately there isn't a sidebar that allows me to skip it)
57:12 <Bloodlust> I was just trying to keep someone else occupied
57:24 <Mekkis> Bloodlust, this was for Rebel's Ransom
57:32 <Bloodlust> oh okay
58:18 <Avatar> yeah it was a bit of a guessing game
58:30 <Avatar> yeah right
58:42 <Mekkis> One player almost got all the correct number
58:47 <Mekkis> then everyone else guessed
58:51 <Avatar> where you have unreliable results
58:57 <Mekkis> and polluted the readings
59:02 <Avatar> it's easy for you to say omg that person had the right answer 
59:08 <Avatar> you're the GM you know the answer
59:22 <Mekkis> hey, it happened when John ran it for me too.
59:25 <Avatar> the way the situation was being described made it very hard to tell if we were doing it right or not
00:03 <Mekkis> (It didn't happen when I ran it locally - one of the players was on the ball, and realised that a +1 in appraise is worse than useless)
03:59 <Bloodlust> Our games have gotten somewhat frustrating
04:14 <Mekkis> online or in-person?
05:20 <Bloodlust> one of the players
05:24 <Bloodlust> online
05:31 <Bloodlust> I don't play in person anymore
05:42 <Mekkis> why not?
06:30 <Bloodlust> local disageements
06:44 <Mekkis> ugh
06:46 <Mekkis> where?
06:54 <Bloodlust> Perth
07:40 <Bloodlust> So now I just play online :)
08:57 <Bloodlust> I love Mask of Stony Demeanor!
09:06 <Bloodlust> +10 to Bluff is awesome for only 500 gold :)
09:19 <Mekkis> sure, but it does make you look a bit weird
09:21 <Bloodlust> Wish they had similar items for other skills that good.
09:40 <Bloodlust> That's true.  No mechanical effect to the weirdness though.
09:57 <Mekkis> nothing LISTED
10:11 <Bloodlust> yes, nothing listed
10:22 <Bloodlust> what are you getting at?
11:12 <Mekkis> any NPC who'
11:32 <Mekkis> can tell what one is would get you to remove it before trusting anything you say
11:34 <Bloodlust> If it had a negative side affect, it'd be listed - GM's can't create mechanics to an item
11:44 <Mekkis> !spell Pugwampi’s Grace
11:52 <diebot> Mekkis, PUGWAMPI'S GRACE enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: short (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature (see below) Comp: V, S, M (a pugwampi's hair) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Will negates SR:yes
11:53 <diebot> Hated by adventurers throughout the Inner Sea region, the gremlins known as pugwampis infect those around them with a malignant form of unluck-an effect that this spell emulates. If the target fails its Will save, it becomes infused with the so-called "grace of the pugwampi." A creature affected by this spell must roll two d20s whenever a situation
11:53 <diebot> calls for a d20 roll (such as an attack roll, a skill check, or a saving throw) and must use the lower of the two results generated. As with the aura shed by actual pugwampies, this spell has no effect on animals, gremlins, or gnolls. The effects of this spell are negated as long as a target gains any sort of luck bonus to a d20 roll (such as those
11:53 <diebot> granted by a luckstone or divine favor), but the spell's duration is not impacted by these effects. If the luck bonus goes away before the pugwampi's grace effect ends, the unluck returns and remains until the spell's normal duration runs out.
11:59 <Mekkis> a GM can apply circumstance modifiers due to favourable or unfavourable conditions
12:09 <Bloodlust> I don't think it's a "mask" that fits over your skin
12:16 <Bloodlust> +/-2
12:32 <Mekkis> they're circumstance modifiers
12:33 <Mekkis> they stack
12:34 <Bloodlust> wearing the mask is not a "condition".
13:04 <Mekkis> sure it is
13:05 <Bloodlust> I think the whole point of the mask is that it fits over your face and transforms your features
13:27 <Mekkis> either the effect's very visible
13:29 <Bloodlust> It's not a solid object that fits over your face - hiding it from sight as a typical mask would
13:38 <Mekkis> OR the item's horribly underpriced.
14:16 <Bloodlust> probably underpriced
14:53 <Mekkis> well
14:58 <Mekkis> reading it in UE
15:16 <Bloodlust> When worn, this mask transforms the wearer's face into a stone statue and its voice into an emotionless monotone. Though it allows the wearer to speak, its facial expressions and voice betray little emotion, granting a +10 competence bonus on Bluff checks made to lie and a +5 competence bonus on Bluff checks made to feint, but also imposing a –5 penalty on Bl
15:27 <Bloodlust> So it already has a negative attached to it
15:30 <Mekkis> there's at LEAST one mistake there!
15:43 <Bloodlust> It's a combination of the facial expressions and the voice
16:12 <Mekkis> no errata yet
17:23 <Mekkis> it's a mask
17:39 <Mekkis> it has a very visible effect
17:48 <Mekkis> (your face looks like a stone statue)
18:22 <Mekkis> it also weighs 4lb
19:02 <Mekkis> (it LOOKS like it's supposed to be a continuous version of &innocence
19:03 <Mekkis> )
19:14 <diebot> INNOCENCE transmutation ([]) bard 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level (D) Save:  SR:
19:15 <diebot> You surround yourself with an aura of innocence and trustworthiness. You gain a +10 competence bonus on Bluff skill checks to convince others of your innocence. They find it difficult to believe you capable of any wrongdoing. This bonus does not apply to other uses of the Bluff skill, such as feinting in combat, creating a diversion to hide, or
19:15 <diebot> communicating secret messages via innuendo, nor does it apply to any use of the skill to convince anyone of anything other than your complete innocence and blamelessness.
20:20 <centurian> u never know when it changes
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20:33 Mekkis has kicked centurian from #d&d (Mekkis)
20:52 <Bloodlust> sounds like it
21:15 <Mekkis> but as I was saying, there's at least one mistake in the entry in UE
21:17 <Mekkis> can you find it?
21:39 <Bloodlust> no
21:55 <Mekkis> really?
21:58 <Mekkis> look closely
22:10 <Bloodlust> nope
22:22 <Mekkis> bottom line
22:51 <Bloodlust> craft rod?
22:56 <Mekkis> yeah
23:10 <Bloodlust> I was looking at the description I'd posted in here - no wonder I didn't see it lol
23:18 <Bloodlust> obvious typo
23:22 <Steven> bacon taco sounds at the same time the most amazing thing i've ever heard of and the worst idea ever
23:31 <Mekkis> probably the same as missing a 0
24:03 <Bloodlust> lol
24:34 <Bloodlust> It's on the forums people asking about it but it's not been errated
24:34 <Mekkis> (to be honest, I'd give it to you for 2500)
24:45 <Bloodlust> unlike the bracers that gave you aspect of the falcon
24:49 <Bloodlust> those got shot down :(
24:55 <Mekkis> they haven't been errataed either!
24:55 <Bloodlust> that sucks beause my ranger loved them lol
25:15 <Bloodlust> I was told they were banned now
25:18 <spider21b> hi
25:24 <Mekkis> banned != errataed
25:37 <Mekkis> the reason it hasn't been errataed was because Paizo's errata policy is "only errata when you release a new printing"
25:40 <Bloodlust> Gloves of Falcon's Aim I think they were called?
25:57 <Mekkis> Bracers
26:38 <Bloodlust> Bracers of falcon's aim
26:43 <Bloodlust> They are at least 4k though
26:52 <Bloodlust> I thought they were cheaper before for some reason
26:57 <Bloodlust> maybe I was thinking of something else
27:08 <Bloodlust> Still though, all they do is give you a first level ranger spell
27:13 <Bloodlust> are they still legal?
27:31 <Mekkis> they're banned
27:40 <Bloodlust> okay
27:53 <Mekkis> So just UMD a wand
28:21 <Bloodlust> for my ranger?
28:24 <Bloodlust> urgh lol
28:30 <Mekkis> don't need UMD then!
28:38 <Bloodlust> unfortunately it says bows and crossbow - not firearms
28:46 <Mekkis> unless you're playing one of those stupid rangers
28:55 <Bloodlust> otherwise my gunslinger would be saving like a wild chicken for that piece of gear lol
29:07 <Mekkis> fuck gunslingers
29:12 <Bloodlust> lol
29:26 <Bloodlust> I got my first crit this morning
29:32 <Bloodlust> only did 26 damage with my musket
29:43 <Bloodlust> but it was to a rat swarm
30:20 <Bloodlust> bits of rat flew everywhere - if I was down any grit I would have gotten two back (one for crit and one for killing blow)
30:32 <Bloodlust> I only have one grit, I don't see a great deal of use for it
30:38 <Steven> sup spider
31:48 <Bloodlust> as a potion it's only 50 gold
32:03 <Mekkis> are you sure?
32:19 <Bloodlust> Potion Costs
32:34 <Bloodlust> first level spell - 50 gold
33:00 <Mekkis> ok
33:06 <Bloodlust> all potions are 50 gold for first level spells, it's only when you get higher that they differ
34:07 <Bloodlust> do potions have any appreciable weight?
35:05 <Mekkis>    Physical Description: A typical potion or oil consists of
35:05 <Mekkis> 1 ounce of liquid held in a ceramic or glass vial fitted with a
35:05 <Mekkis> tight stopper. The stoppered container is usually no more than
35:05 <Mekkis> 1 inch wide and 2 inches high. The vial has AC 13, 1 hit point,
35:05 <Mekkis> hardness 1, and a break DC of 12.
35:57 <Bloodlust> how many ounces to a pound?
36:05 <Mekkis> 12 or 16
36:05 <Bloodlust> 14?
36:16 <Mekkis> depending on what you're measuring
36:25 <Mekkis> probably 16
36:29 <Bloodlust> yeah, so unless I've got more than 10 potions clanking around I won't bother listing a weight
36:42 <Mekkis> So, What weighs more: a pound of glass or a pound of gold?
36:49 <Bloodlust> same
36:53 <Mekkis> INCORRECT
37:07 <Mekkis> the glass weighs more
37:20 <Bloodlust> ?
37:48 <Mekkis> a pound of glass weighs 0.453592kg
37:52 <Bloodlust> how do you figure that?
38:10 <Bloodlust> a pound of anything weighs - a pound
38:15 <Mekkis> a pound of gold weighs 0.373242
38:52 <Bloodlust> a pound is a unit of measurement - it is irrelevant what is being measured
38:55 <Mekkis> when you ask for a pound of mince, you get 1 Avoirdupois pound
39:10 <Mekkis> when you ask for a pound of gold, you get 1 Troy pound
40:00 <Bloodlust> Yes there are different types of pounds (who knows why - get metric you cavemen!) but in the question you only stated a "pound" not a avoirdupois, nor a troy
40:20 <Mekkis> of course, but in the question, I was specifying the material.
40:41 <Bloodlust> but not any different measuring standards
40:41 <Mekkis> and you never use avoirdupios pounds to measure gold
40:50 <Mekkis> it's always troy
41:03 <Bloodlust> how many pounds to a kilo?
41:16 <Mekkis> 0.453592
41:34 <Mekkis> (common usage defaults to avoirdupios)
41:43 <Bloodlust> ???
41:50 <Mekkis> sorry
41:52 <Bloodlust> here was me thinking it was 2.2
41:53 <Mekkis> inverse of that
42:11 <Mekkis> sh: 1: command not found
42:19 <Mekkis> 2
42:23 <Mekkis> 2
42:28 <Mekkis> bc: invalid option -- '1'
42:28 <Mekkis> usage: bc [options] [file ...]
42:28 <Mekkis>   -h  --help         print this usage and exit
42:28 <Mekkis>   -i  --interactive  force interactive mode
42:28 <Mekkis>   -l  --mathlib      use the predefine math routnes
42:28 <Mekkis>   -q  --quiet        don't print initial banner
42:28 <Mekkis>   -s  --standard     non-standard bc constructs are errors
42:28 <Mekkis>   -w  --warn         warn about non-standard bc constructs
42:28 <Mekkis>   -v  --version      print version information and exit
42:34 <Mekkis> meh
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