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00:01:10 <Goya> I thought I might try to roll a second character before I leave so I have a fallback. I'm not up to concept characters yet though..
00:12:49 <Goya> Zen Archer looks kinda neat though..
00:15:14 <Blasticka> well let me know if anyone is going to organize a game for level 1 or 2's. we are available. (me and allengirl that is)
00:28:47 <Goya> I suppose I should head out for now and get to bed. Take care guys - and thanks for the help! =)
00:37:28 <Blasticka> okay I'm going to bed
00:38:01 <Blasticka> If anyone sees this message, we are hoping for a game tomorrow morning if anyone has an adventure appropriate for level 2's and would be kind enough to GM for us!
00:38:10 <Blasticka> good night everyone sleep well
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01:59:44 <Steven> sup
02:02:34 <Blasticka> heya Steven
02:10:54 <Steven> 92 tables of credit
02:11:14 <Blasticka> whazzat mean, you can level up characters for free or something?
02:11:16 <Steven> im like 4 shy of where i want to be
02:11:28 <Blasticka> oooh so we have to run an adventure or 3
02:11:43 <Blasticka> we just need one more player if you want to run one in like an hour
02:12:45 <Steven> no
02:12:53 <Steven> my migraine is currently raging.
02:16:18 <Blasticka> aww. that's not good I'm sorry man
02:16:45 <Blasticka> probably shouldn't be on the computer that usually makes things worse. maybe put on some soothing music and take a nap? in a dark room?
02:18:56 <Steven> nah
02:19:06 <Steven> damned if i do damned if i dont
02:19:11 <Steven> so i might as well enjoy myself
02:24:31 <Blasticka> ooh I know. what about a cold compress on your neck and back of the head?
02:24:38 <Blasticka> does cold help?
02:38:43 <Steven> meh
02:39:09 <Steven> what helps the most is meds i cant afford
02:40:43 <Steven> anyways... gonna take some IBproferens
02:40:50 <Steven> like... a handfull of them lol
02:42:33 <Steven> so bought an avacyn restored pack
02:42:38 <Steven> tonight
02:42:41 <Steven> cavern of souls
02:43:07 <Steven> like 20 bucks
02:44:22 <Steven> cant be displeased bout htat
03:03:19 <Blasticka> ah I used to play magic the gathering
03:03:25 <Blasticka> I had a white red deck
03:03:35 <Blasticka> lots of hell riders and such
03:04:01 <Blasticka> and the cool dragon that taps flyers and has hast for 5 damage. had 2 of them.
03:04:13 <Blasticka> *haste
03:06:49 <Steven> havent played standard in a long ass time
03:06:53 <Steven> I'm an EDH guy
03:14:48 <Steven> almost ready for the sleep!
03:15:53 <Steven> i feel myself gettin tired.
03:24:04 <Steven> HOLY BALLS HEADACHE EBBING!
03:39:36 <Blasticka> tha'ts wonderful congratulations!
03:39:51 <Blasticka> Kyra's bless spell must have finally kicked in
03:46:28 <Mekkis> I expect Ballig to disappear now.
03:53:45 <Blasticka> hmm?
03:53:48 <Blasticka> why is that?
03:56:53 <Steven> ahhhhhh yeah
03:57:19 <Steven> headache gone, ate some food... feelin decent
04:02:25 <Blasticka> still gonna go to sleep now?
04:02:55 <Steven> feelin like a yes...
04:03:03 <Steven> unless we got something cooler to do
04:03:29 <Blasticka> well, it's 5:30 here, we have time for a game but would need at least one more player. and I don't want to make your migraine come back lol
04:03:43 <Steven> nah, its gone
04:03:55 <Blasticka> sweeeet that's great man
04:04:52 <Steven> it ebbed and then the pills kicked in, and now im sittin pretty
04:06:01 <Blasticka> ooh avatar is here
04:06:09 <Steven> oh shit time to run!
04:06:11 <Blasticka> avatar want to play a level 2 something?
04:06:17 <Blasticka> or mekkis?
04:06:35 <Blasticka> or brunius lurking in the shadows?
04:07:25 <Blasticka> I'll be back in 30 minutes. hopefully we'll have a third player by then. :-)
04:07:59 <Avatar> it's a school night for me
04:08:23 <Steven> yeah its like thursday 6pm?
04:08:23 <Avatar> schedule a game tomorrow night
04:08:26 <Steven> or is it 7
04:08:29 <Avatar> 6
04:08:48 <Steven> tomorrow its RotRL
04:08:58 <Avatar> saturday then
04:09:09 <Steven> hangin with my mom!
04:09:18 <Steven> oh you mean your saturday
04:09:26 <Avatar> yeah as in 2 days from today
04:09:30 <Avatar> or 1 day
04:09:47 <Steven> lets see....
04:09:48 <Avatar> tomorrow night as in 24 hours from now
04:09:50 <Steven> friday night....
04:10:49 <Steven> hrmmmm
04:10:59 <Steven> sure....
04:11:17 <Avatar> what scenario
04:11:26 * Steven shrugs
04:11:34 <Avatar> alright hang on
04:11:38 <Steven> lets see
04:11:41 <Steven> what there is to play
04:12:23 <Avatar> maybe among the living
04:12:27 <Avatar> kapow will never run it
04:12:47 <Avatar> or murder on the silken caravan
04:13:14 <Steven> the Dalsine Affair!
04:13:24 <Avatar> that will likely be the last scenario I ever play
04:13:31 <Avatar> how about devil we know 3
04:13:40 <Avatar> or god's market gamble
04:13:52 <Steven> oh come on, even i've played the dalsine affair
04:14:01 <Avatar> oh yeah even you've played it
04:14:13 <Avatar> cyphermage dilemma
04:14:17 <Steven> and i knew what happened before i played.
04:14:20 <Avatar> any of those take your fancy?
04:15:09 <Steven> meh...
04:15:38 <Avatar> black waters
04:15:49 <Avatar> night march of kalamedes
04:15:55 <Avatar> cyphermage dilemma
04:16:04 <Avatar> running out of options here
04:16:11 <Avatar> devil we know 4
04:16:55 <Avatar> they're the only 1-7s I can play
04:18:17 <Avatar> god's market gamble seems like your best bet
04:18:23 <Avatar> or murder on the silken caravan
04:18:34 <Avatar> unless you don't want to prep something new
04:18:51 <Mekkis> haven't you played cyphermage yet, Avatar?
04:18:53 <Avatar> if that's the case, cyphermage
04:18:58 <Avatar> don't think so
04:19:51 <Avatar> nope
04:20:04 <Avatar> alright let me know when you've made a choice, I'm going to play unepic
04:20:40 <Steven> alright... sure cyphermage
04:20:55 <Avatar> 24 hours?
04:20:59 <Avatar> -20 minutes
04:22:31 <Steven> no that would be my friday 1am
04:23:07 <Steven> 41 hours from now
04:25:14 <Avatar> if it's 6pm here, what time is it 41 hours
04:25:57 <Steven> noonish on saturday i think?
04:26:06 <Avatar> is that when you want me to schedule it
04:26:07 <Avatar> noonish
04:26:26 <Steven> sure, lets see when that is for me
04:27:23 <Avatar> just give me a time in GMT
04:27:26 <Avatar> I will adjust it from there
04:28:58 <Steven> 2 days from now, minus 7 hours
04:29:24 <Avatar> 11am GMT+10 I believe that is
04:29:33 <Steven> hell if i know
04:31:46 <Forevernade> are there any other game system irc channels besides dnd?
04:32:26 <Avatar> we play pathfinder, not d&d
04:38:17 <Steven> and yes there is
04:38:33 <Steven> darkness is pretty popular
05:00:28 <Blasticka> greetings boris
05:00:59 <Blasticka> I still remember golden eye and the boss boris yeltsiv or something like that.
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07:19:37 <Avatar> that would be a really weird way to run things
07:20:03 <Blasticka> but cheaper
07:20:12 <Mekkis> The sheath can hold one light weapon,
07:20:15 <Mekkis> ranged weapon, or wand that weighs less than 1
07:20:15 <Mekkis> pound.
07:20:24 <Mekkis> so
07:20:29 <Mekkis> no scrolls or potions
07:20:51 <Avatar> I'd allow scrolls or potions
07:21:12 <Blasticka> so it's a gm decision grey area?
07:21:19 <Mekkis> that would be a deviation. You can't do that in PFS
07:21:37 <Avatar> it's commonsense that if those things can fit, so can a scroll or a potion
07:21:56 <Avatar> a scroll is more questionable than a potion, but I'd still think it's fair
07:22:50 <Steven> Its table variance
07:23:40 <Avatar> I wouldn't expect to be able to win an argument with another GM if they didn't want to do it, but I'm not a hardass, so I'd allow it
07:24:08 <Avatar> if there's an official ruling saying no potions and scrolls don't work in a wrist sheath, fair enough
07:24:20 <Avatar> but there's been a lot of discussion and no ruling, so
07:24:44 <Avatar> it doesn't break the game
07:24:55 <Mekkis> what's the density of the liquid in a potion?
07:24:59 <Mekkis> I would disagree. It does
07:25:31 <Avatar> how
07:25:47 <Mekkis> it destroys action economy
07:25:58 <Avatar> no more than it does with a wand
07:26:06 <Mekkis> you've been saying that "everyone should have one"
07:26:12 <Avatar> everyone should
07:27:04 <Steven> imma go find that cool neck slot i found the other day
07:27:33 <Mekkis> what's the density of the liquid in a potion?
07:27:41 <Avatar> that doesn't matter
07:28:19 <Mekkis> but I'm not sure how you can say that a potion would fit where a dagger could
07:28:41 <Avatar> there's a description of a potion somewhere
07:28:45 <Avatar> it's only really small
07:28:47 <Blasticka> well in ultimate equipment it describes flasks
07:28:52 <Avatar> like a vial or something
07:28:57 <Blasticka> they are more like, um, a test tube size really
07:29:10 <Avatar> I think it's actually smaller than a typical test tube
07:29:23 <Mekkis> it's a cylinder, 1 inch diameter, 2 inch long
07:29:31 <Blasticka> I didn't pay tons of attention
07:29:39 <Blasticka> but yeah that's pretty small
07:30:17 <Mekkis> what weapons can you actually put in a wrist sheath?
07:30:21 <Mekkis> a dart.
07:30:37 <Avatar> how does a ranged weapon work
07:30:38 <Mekkis> 5 shuriken
07:30:49 <Mekkis> that's it
07:30:52 <Blasticka> 5 crossbow bolts
07:30:56 <Blasticka> a dagger
07:30:58 <Avatar> a ranged weapon that weighs less than 1 pound?
07:31:09 <Mekkis> nope
07:31:13 <Mekkis> dagger weighs 1 pound
07:31:26 <Mekkis> that's not "less than one pound"
07:31:27 <Avatar> I'm going off the sheath description
07:31:41 <Avatar> it's not saying "a wand that weighs one pound"
07:31:47 <Avatar> it's saying any of those three "that weighs less than one pound"
07:32:23 <Mekkis> oh
07:32:24 <Avatar> if a dagger weighs exactly 1 pound, I would be hard pressed to say sorry, that's not "less"
07:32:43 <Avatar> I would have to want my players to hate me to say that to them
07:32:52 <Mekkis> wand is 6 to 12" long, 1/4" diameter
07:33:10 <Mekkis> something with a diameter 4 times that would not necessarily fit in the sheath
07:33:12 <Avatar> anyone got a copy of ultimate campaign handy
07:33:13 <Avatar> I thought you said you weren't allowing wands in a sheath
07:33:19 <Mekkis> I'm not in WotW
07:33:26 <Mekkis> in PFS, I begrudgingly allow it
07:33:28 <Gamera> isnt the idea that it springs out ready to hold in your hand?
07:33:36 <Avatar> but the description is specific
07:33:46 <Mekkis> I know
07:33:52 <Mekkis> that's why I allow it in PFS
07:34:36 <Blasticka> well it does say you can put a dagger in it. so how big is the pommel of a dagger?
07:34:54 <Gamera> an african dagger or a european dagger?
07:35:05 <Avatar> there actually are no light weapons that weigh less than a pound
07:35:07 <Blasticka> lol I don't know that... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
07:35:25 <Avatar> yeah if you can put a dagger in it, you can surely put a bloody vial
07:35:42 <Blasticka> hey Gamera, what's your schedule looking like this evening?
07:35:45 <Gamera> hollow out the handle of the dagger and pour your potion in it
07:35:50 <Avatar> scrolls would be more awkward, but I have no idea how scrolls are rolled up or stored away
07:35:57 <Avatar> I assume it could be done, and that's enough
07:35:57 <Gamera> im not doing anything
07:35:58 <Gamera> y
07:36:14 <Blasticka> well, mr. Steven, myself, and my wife are wanting to play a game
07:36:22 <Gamera> a sexy game?
07:36:27 <Blasticka> would you be interested in playing or GM'ing?
07:36:35 <Gamera> nah I dont do online rpg
07:36:37 <Blasticka> no a pathfinder game you silly person. :-P
07:36:39 <Gamera> thanks
07:36:40 <Avatar> you are missing out
07:36:45 <Gamera> also I dont know pathfinder
07:36:50 <Avatar> what do you play
07:36:57 <Gamera> 3.5
07:37:03 <Avatar> it's almost the same
07:37:09 <Blasticka> it's almost the same thing they tell me
07:37:11 <Avatar> except better
07:37:14 <Gamera> do I need to buy magic underwear?
07:37:24 <Blasticka> you should roll up a character and play with us!
07:37:45 <Blasticka> Steven would you GM if we convinced a new recruit to join us?
07:38:28 <Gamera> //say $rand(1,20)
07:38:31 <Gamera> 19
07:38:39 <Gamera> oh I rolled pretty good on diplomacy there I dont think I'll play
07:38:47 <Blasticka> and Gamera I think your normal spiderman underpants are just fine
07:38:49 <Avatar> 12
07:38:53 <Avatar> I did not know you could do that
07:39:33 <Blasticka> 19 is good but my charisma modifyer and natural tenacity makes the dc a 21!
07:39:55 <Blasticka> (my intelligence is not so good sometime) I is a sorcerer.
07:39:56 <Gamera> -a 9
07:40:03 <Gamera> //say $calc($rand(1,6) + $rand(1,6) + 3)
07:40:05 <Gamera> etc
07:40:21 <Steven> there we go
07:40:26 <Steven> found it
07:40:28 <Steven> Necklace of Netted Stars
07:41:32 <Steven> its spendy but gooooood
07:41:49 <Blasticka> so it's plus 3 to story telling and native american dream catchers?
07:41:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's effectively a page of "letter" size paper rolled up
07:41:56 <Blasticka> or something/
07:41:58 <Gamera> maybe another time
07:42:10 <Blasticka> awww. okay Gamera
07:42:11 <Avatar> that means it rolls up better
07:42:14 <Avatar> and springs out easier
07:42:15 <Mekkis> call it A4 and you're not too wrong
07:42:22 <Mekkis> 8.5" long
07:42:39 <Steven> oh man you guys are still going on about the scroll thing?
07:42:54 <Mekkis> is the length of a forearm more than 8.5"
07:43:08 <Steven> mine is...
07:43:19 <Blasticka> well we could check the length of an average arrow
07:43:31 <Avatar> 12" is 30cm
07:43:36 <Avatar> my forearm is longer than that
07:43:47 <Mekkis> 1" is 25.4mm
07:44:04 <Avatar> 2.45cm
07:44:23 <Mekkis> .9mm off
07:44:38 <Blasticka> oh for crying out loud. lol
07:44:44 <Avatar> who is american here who can help us
07:45:07 <Steven> im not getting involved...
07:45:18 <Avatar> you are already involved
07:45:21 <Steven> nope
07:45:28 <Steven> I gave my answer a while ago
07:45:39 <Avatar> 25.4 you're right
07:45:48 <Steven> Table Variance
07:47:33 <Avatar> does anyone have a ruler nearby
07:47:42 <Mekkis> human forearm lengths seem to range from 23cm and 27.5cm
07:48:10 <Avatar> that's less than 8.5", long
07:48:14 <Avatar> turn it width-ways
07:48:18 <Avatar> no dramas
07:48:26 <Avatar> laughing
07:48:57 <Mekkis> no it's more like a foot long, rolled up
07:49:01 <Mekkis> 8.5" wide
07:49:04 <Mekkis> and capped to prevent it from folding
07:52:15 <Avatar> is there a description of that in the book
07:53:08 <Mekkis> yes
07:55:21 <Mekkis> Physical Description: A scroll is a heavy sheet of fine vellum
07:55:21 <Mekkis> or high-quality paper. An area about 8-1/2 inches wide and
07:55:21 <Mekkis> 11 inches long is sufficient to hold one spell. The sheet is
07:55:21 <Mekkis> reinforced at the top and bottom with strips of leather slightly
07:55:21 <Mekkis> longer than the sheet is wide. A scroll holding more than one
07:55:21 <Mekkis> spell has the same width (about 8-1/2 inches) but is an extra
07:55:21 <Mekkis> foot or so long for each additional spell.
07:55:21 <Mekkis> Scrolls that hold three
07:55:21 <Mekkis> or more spells are usually fitted with reinforcing rods at each
07:55:21 <Mekkis> end rather than simple strips of leather. A scroll has AC 9, 1 hit
07:55:21 <Mekkis> point, hardness 0, and a break DC of 8.
07:55:24 <Avatar> everything about the description tells me it would work
07:55:35 <Mekkis> To protect it from wrinkling or tearing, a scroll is rolled
07:55:35 <Mekkis> up from both ends to form a double cylinder. (This also helps
07:55:35 <Mekkis> the user unroll the scroll quickly.) The scroll is placed in a
07:55:41 <Avatar> I don't know what the capped bit means, but that's no in the wording
07:55:49 <Mekkis> tube of ivory, jade, leather, metal, or wood. Most scroll cases
07:55:49 <Mekkis> are inscribed with magic symbols which often identify the
07:55:49 <Mekkis> owner or the spells stored on the scrolls inside. The symbols
07:55:49 <Mekkis> sometimes hide magic traps.
07:55:49 <Mekkis> oops
07:55:49 <Avatar> and 8.5" is short enough for the forearm
07:56:45 <Mekkis> 215.9mm
07:57:01 <Mekkis> that's very close to the length of the forearm
07:57:11 <Blasticka> in the ultimate equipment, this magical armor type invulnerability says cl 18. does that mean character level 18th required?
07:57:46 <Mekkis> no
07:58:35 <Avatar> it's borderline both ways
07:58:50 <Avatar> I'd allow it, it still doesn't break the game, which is the bigger issue
07:59:16 <Mekkis> I believe it does break the game. The quickrunner's shirt was banned, for instance
08:00:26 <Avatar> was it
08:00:27 <Mekkis> I sent yolu the link
08:00:29 <Avatar> when did that happen
08:03:25 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2onps?Quickrunners-Shirt-Overpowered#5
08:03:32 <Mekkis> it was caught before UE became legal
08:08:17 <Mekkis> for a weapon to fit in a wrist sheath, it pretty much needs to be designed for it
08:09:27 <Avatar> wrist sheaths aren't designed for specific weapons
08:09:44 <Avatar> any light weapon, any ranged weapon, any wand that weighs a pound
08:13:40 <Steven> i say you guys settle this with a character fight
08:13:45 <Mekkis> I'm looking at wrist sheaths
08:13:57 <Mekkis> ok. I'll bring Lucent.
08:14:36 <Steven> PFS Legal, max level of.... 7
08:14:50 <Mekkis> make it 10
08:14:58 <Blasticka> can I watch?
08:15:01 <Steven> nope.... 7
08:20:46 <Yiroep> Lol wrist sheaths.
08:20:48 <Mekkis> well, the sheaths weigh 1lb
08:21:00 <Yiroep> The item of unending argument.
08:21:12 <Mekkis> I'd like you to try and swing a sword with 1lb strapped to each arm
08:22:47 <Mekkis> but the fact is that people don't read the wrist sheaths and weapon cord's descriptions
08:24:20 <Yiroep> "The sheath can hold one forearm-length item such as a dagger, dart, or wand, or up to five arrows or crossbow bolts. Alternatively, you may store up to 1 pound of ammunition in a wrist sheath. "
08:26:15 <Steven> Table Variance.
08:27:08 <Steven> alright been up too late... goin to sleep
08:27:22 <Steven> peace bitches
08:34:47 <Blasticka> take it easy Steven
08:36:16 <Steven> will
08:39:55 <Mekkis> I wonder how Ballig's taking the news regarding his new boss
10:38:21 <Blasticka> okay I'm going to bed
10:38:54 <Blasticka> If anyone sees this message, we are hoping for a game tomorrow morning if anyone has an adventure appropriate for level 2's and would be kind enough to GM for us!
10:39:03 <Blasticka> good night everyone sleep well
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11:48:33 <Mekkis> why does it matter, Xain
11:48:37 <Mekkis> they should be in PATH
11:48:38 <Blasticka> A gnome on a wardog!
11:48:42 <Blasticka> arf arf
11:48:58 * Xain blocks HTT-Bird with the Shield of even Lesser Privilege
11:49:21 <Xain> True, of the big 3 OSes mac is at the bottom
11:49:28 <Xain> for me in exp
11:49:30 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, I take it you're saying that because of size issues with the mount?
11:49:52 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, yeah, if you're riding a large creature, expect o have issues
11:50:13 <HTT-Bird> yeah. and I'm looking at large and > for mounts b/c that's what's in character for that character concept
11:50:38 <Longshot> what do i do now that terminal is open?
11:50:40 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, are you looking at for PFS, or for PFRPG in general
11:50:43 <Mekkis> type pdfcairo
11:50:46 <HTT-Bird> PFS, sorry.
11:50:56 <HTT-Bird> that might be part of my problem
11:50:58 <Mekkis> sorry pdftocairo
11:51:21 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, it will just mean that you'll have less opportunities to shine
11:51:35 <Mekkis> you should be able to lead the animal indoors, but riding it will be an issue
11:53:14 <HTT-Bird> *nods* I take it that's true even for a mount of > Large size?
11:53:28 <Mekkis> considering the Mammoth Rider prestige class?
11:53:37 <HTT-Bird> *looks up that class*
11:53:51 <Mekkis> once it becomes Huge, it's likely you'll have issues.
11:53:59 <Mekkis> Large can generally be lead inside though
11:54:57 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, with the added complication of a flying mount
11:55:16 <Mekkis> as a rule, can't fly while squeezing
11:55:21 <HTT-Bird> yeah
11:55:43 <HTT-Bird> which makes sense, considering squeezing for fliers involves folding the wings
11:56:06 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, I would suggest keeping that character concept around when a non-PFS campaign happens, and coming up with something else for PFS
11:56:14 <HTT-Bird> and you don't have a steam catapult to get you up above Vso :P (otherwise, you'd pull an A-4)
11:56:29 <Mekkis> I don't understand that terminology
11:56:47 <HTT-Bird> (it's a reference to the A-4 Skyhawk and its lack of foldable wings, which is unusual for a carrierborne aircraft)
11:56:55 <Mekkis> ah
11:57:06 <Mekkis> V_so is velocity of?
11:57:16 <HTT-Bird> V_so is the stall speed in landing configuration
11:57:39 <HTT-Bird> so really V_so(t) for a jet considering your T/O conf and landing conf are not always going to be the same
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11:57:55 <Mekkis> ah
11:59:31 <HTT-Bird> yeah, I suspect PFS would require me to do something else altogether, its just I'm not sure what, yet :P
11:59:40 * HTT-Bird has a habit of coming up with fringe characters
12:00:45 * Xain needs to start watching fringe
12:00:54 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, I suggest you read up on Golarian Lore, and come up with a character based on that
12:01:02 <Blasticka> it's a steven!
12:01:05 <Blasticka> good morning sir
12:01:22 <Blasticka> how fares the mighty breath of your lungs this day?
12:01:28 <HTT-Bird> *nods* yeah...I don't read lore in the same way most folks do either
12:02:26 <HTT-Bird> instead of being that terribly interested in religious rites and cultural details, I'm more after a very solid theory of how the world operates
12:02:57 <HTT-Bird> and I'm even less interested in a character-based history of the world
12:03:08 <HTT-Bird> I tend to see history through events and developments
12:06:59 <Xain> Guys I am going to have to log off
12:07:12 <HTT-Bird> o/
12:07:17 <Xain> It's evening and I do not feel well, will you all be on over the weekend?
12:08:59 <Blasticka> it's alright. get some rest and yes on saturday I'll be online
12:09:43 <Xain> ok im just going to stay logged in, Saturday I will have 24 hours of nothing going on
12:09:50 <Xain> and it shall be glorious
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12:09:59 <Xain> HTT hope you get your character up and going :-P
12:11:02 <Mekkis> some rather breathtaking views here
12:11:02 <HTT-Bird> hehe, its just a matter of finding a suitable campaign/environment for the char
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12:32:48 <Mekkis> let's see how much flaming my thread necromancy and campaigning for the Spring Loaded Wrist Sheath's ban will cause.
12:40:03 <Blasticka> Ban? oh noes! I just bought the book so I could use them lol
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12:48:43 <Mekkis> hey
12:48:47 <Mekkis> it's a broken item
12:49:39 <Blasticka> only if an ogre steps on the gear part...
12:49:42 <Blasticka> :-P
12:49:53 <Goya> Wow.. I managed to ban myself from AustNet..
12:50:31 <Goya> I was trying to get auto-identify to work with IRSSI and I managed to double-connect - which is against the rules I guess..
12:53:05 <Blasticka> ouch
12:53:13 <Blasticka> wanna play pathfinder?
12:53:16 <Blasticka> :-D
12:53:41 <Goya> I would - but it's a bit late for me.. =(
12:53:57 <Goya> Going to bed at midnight would kill me.
12:54:52 <Goya> I'm going to try the auth thing ONE more time - then give up..
12:54:58 <HTT-Bird> IIRC, I got booted off of FreeNode once because their auto-zombie-detection false-positive'd on me
12:55:20 <Goya> Hehe. Freenode was fine with it.. AustNet - not so much.. =)
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13:03:47 <Mekkis> Brunius, Brunius|M: you around?
13:07:05 <Brunius|M> Could be
13:07:07 <Brunius|M> Why?
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13:18:02 <Goya> Damn. I better not do that again.. I'm going to perma-ban myself at this rate..
13:18:11 <Mekkis> heh
13:19:39 <Blasticka> heya brunius.
13:19:56 <Goya> The PDF versions of the books work if you play PFS in-person don't they? (e.g. I don't need to lug around the hardcovers?)
13:20:09 <Mekkis> Goya, you SHOULD print out the relevant pages
13:20:26 <Blasticka> probably depends on the GM if you have your laptop there maybe they wouldn't mind
13:20:33 <Goya> *nods* But - if I have a tablet with me or whatnot?
13:20:47 <Goya> *nods* Ok. I'll probably just cart the books. Better safe than sorry.
13:21:02 <Mekkis> I strongly dislike laptops on tables. Plus, it's cluncky to search a given file on a device.
13:21:32 <Goya> I just don't want to lug around 30lb of books all weekend.. Heh.
13:21:59 <Mekkis> Goya, if you own the PDFs, just print out the required pages and you'll be fine
13:22:13 <Goya> Ok. Thanks guys.
13:22:25 <Mekkis> you have a folder for your character, right?
13:23:17 <Goya> Not yet - but I plan on taking several copies of the char sheet and my cheat-sheet notes along.
13:23:26 <Mekkis> I use Marbig Bindermate display books: it lets me put the character sheet in the front, followed by the printouts of Additional Resources, followed by all the chronicle sheets
13:23:32 <Mekkis> you MUST bring the chronicle sheets
13:23:51 <Mekkis> http://www.marbig.com.au/products/images/Zoom/z22004%20BindermateDispBk%20b%20WBg%20DEI.jpg
13:23:59 <Goya> Thanks Mekkis
13:24:17 <Goya> Chronicle sheets? Are they special - or can I use the herolab printouts (with my Paizo char ID)?
13:24:36 <Mekkis> you NEED the actual chronicle sheets
13:24:43 <Mekkis> you can't use herolab printouts
13:24:47 <Goya> Ah crap.
13:24:59 <Mekkis> the ONLY thing you should use herolab printouts for is your actual character sheet
13:25:19 <Mekkis> (fyi, owning the herolab resource is NOT the same as owning the book/PDF)
13:26:36 <Goya> I know - I own the books - I just got herolab to make it easier to roll characters.
13:30:33 <Goya> Where the heck is the generic PFS Chronicle sheet? It looks like you get those when you actually play the game.
13:30:56 <Mekkis> why do you need a generic PFS chronicle sheet?
13:31:58 <Goya> You said I need to take the chronicle sheets... I'm thinking I'm just slow - and you get those over time as you actually play. If I've never played - I don't have any. (?)
13:32:48 <Mekkis> that's correct
13:32:51 <Mekkis> so you're fine
13:33:02 <Goya> I guess - to make a long story short - I'm planning on playing my first few sessions in a few weeks - without prior experience. So - I can just take the herolab sheet (or whatever) and go from there.
13:33:15 <Mekkis> when you play, your GM will give your a chronicle sheet when you're done
13:33:26 <Goya> *nods* Makes sense. Thanks.
13:33:35 <Mekkis> if you play online, the GM will probably give it to you electronically
13:33:44 <Mekkis> you'll need to print it out
13:34:01 <Goya> Ok. Easy enough.
13:34:26 <Mekkis> (I personally offer to mail chronicle sheets, if people want my signature on it, but I don't know many other who offer that)
13:35:30 <Goya> Hehe. Must cost you a fortune to mail internationally
13:35:41 <Mekkis> $AU2 or so. Not that much
13:42:35 <Blasticka> Steven you awake?
13:43:29 <Goya> He went to the shop a few hours ago to open up I think - so he should be awake.
13:51:34 <Mekkis> I need to come up with another character concept
14:00:17 <Goya> I thought I might try to roll a second character before I leave so I have a fallback. I'm not up to concept characters yet though..
14:11:57 <Goya> Zen Archer looks kinda neat though..
14:14:22 <Blasticka> well let me know if anyone is going to organize a game for level 1 or 2's. we are available. (me and allengirl that is)
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15:58:51 <Steven> sup
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16:01:41 <Blasticka> heya Steven
16:10:02 <Steven> 92 tables of credit
16:10:21 <Blasticka> whazzat mean, you can level up characters for free or something?
16:10:23 <Steven> im like 4 shy of where i want to be
16:10:35 <Blasticka> oooh so we have to run an adventure or 3
16:10:50 <Blasticka> we just need one more player if you want to run one in like an hour
16:11:52 <Steven> no
16:12:00 <Steven> my migraine is currently raging.
16:15:25 <Blasticka> aww. that's not good I'm sorry man
16:15:53 <Blasticka> probably shouldn't be on the computer that usually makes things worse. maybe put on some soothing music and take a nap? in a dark room?
16:18:04 <Steven> nah
16:18:13 <Steven> damned if i do damned if i dont
16:18:18 <Steven> so i might as well enjoy myself
16:23:38 <Blasticka> ooh I know. what about a cold compress on your neck and back of the head?
16:23:45 <Blasticka> does cold help?
19:56:21 <Yiroep> I have an elf wizard.
19:56:23 <Yiroep> Transmuter.
19:56:43 <Bergo> I've had a Elf Wizard aswell once
19:56:46 <Yiroep> Elf is a good race for a wizard. The +2 to spell penetration checks is good.
19:57:09 <Yiroep> (Unless you specialize in conjuration)
19:57:09 <Bergo> True
19:57:42 <Bergo> What's the lifespan of an elf in years?
19:57:51 <Yiroep> A lot.
19:57:52 <Yiroep> Lol.
19:58:22 <Yiroep> Elf wizards apparently start life at level 1 at 120-170 years.
19:59:08 <Yiroep> Casters are where my heart lies anyway.
19:59:19 <Yiroep> I've only ever made one character that can't cast spells. :p
20:02:01 <Yiroep> I love my wizard, though. He specialized in Slow, which is just a wonderful spell.
20:03:01 <Bergo> My best my interesting char was a half dragon human sorcerer, bastard of a noble who didn't know he was a sorcerer nor a dragon, The GM decided when I was able to use spells, and half dragon traits
20:03:08 <Xain> What's a good ranger focus skill?
20:03:13 <Bergo> Best Campaign I ever played
20:03:52 <Yiroep> Ranger focus skill?
20:04:18 <Xain> A good skill to focus on, sorry
20:04:30 <Yiroep> Are you talking about combat style?
20:04:41 <Yiroep> Or generally what your character will be doing?
20:04:56 <Xain> I put a focus on perception, just general skills
20:05:01 <Yiroep> Oh, O.K.
20:05:38 <Yiroep> Well, if you want to grab one of the crafts or profession, you can do so. Probably profession as your wisdom is probably higher.
20:06:05 <Yiroep> Obviously perception. It's pretty much the most used skill, and since it's a class skill for you it's gonna be useful.
20:06:17 <Xain> I grabbed a driver profession
20:07:06 <Yiroep> Other than that.....it's preference. I like Survival, Stealth, Knowledge (Nature and Dungeoneering), but some people will disagree.
20:07:18 <Yiroep> A lot of people put 1 point into climb and swim so they are good at it.
20:07:44 <Bergo> I've played a pirate campaign once, I've never used swim, ever.
20:08:11 <HTT-Bird> hey all. decided to pop in and give this game a shot (I'm US CST though, so don't be surprised if I bail a bit early on you folks :)
20:09:14 <Bergo> Yiroep, you up for playing now?
20:09:50 <Yiroep> Also, I really like this site for figuring out how to build my character. Each trait/class/skill/feat/whatever will have a symbol next to it if it's PFS legal: http://www.archivesofnethys.com/
20:09:53 <Yiroep> (I always promote it)
20:10:10 <Yiroep> I usually can't play online, and I usually can't play during the week at all, even locally.
20:10:16 <Yiroep> And in fact I'm about to leave.
20:10:21 <Yiroep> (From work)
20:11:03 <Bergo> Ah
20:11:06 <Bergo> Too bad :/
20:11:15 <Yiroep> Alright, I'm off.
20:11:17 <Yiroep> Cya all later.
20:12:21 * HTT-Bird pings Xain over here
20:14:07 <Xain> what is up?
20:14:29 <HTT-Bird> was wondering if people were still being sought here :)
20:17:12 <Xain> yes
20:17:16 <Xain> Thanks for coming over
20:17:26 <Xain> Bergo, got my new char sheet
20:17:30 <Xain> I think it's ok
20:17:39 <Xain> I will use it going to ship it over
20:18:36 <HTT-Bird> ok...let me read the getting started guide first, and then I'll start trying to piece together my char
20:19:03 <HTT-Bird> but I am coming in with a slightly unusual char concept, so I probably will have questions here, and perhaps lots of questions even :)
20:19:48 <Xain> Anyone else here interested?
20:20:14 <Steven> sorry, im gearing up to run a game day.
20:21:17 <HTT-Bird> I take it Bergo is going to be GMing? (sorry, first time in this channel, so NFI who's who :)
20:21:30 <Xain> Yes I believe so
20:23:06 <HTT-Bird> alrighty then. :)
20:24:33 <Xain> Bergo are you getting my file request?
20:32:35 <Xain> How's everyone doing?
20:32:59 <HTT-Bird> alright, save for not quite being able to find a suitably brainy flying mount as part of my character concept
20:34:09 <HTT-Bird> (imagine sitting across the cockpit of an airliner from someone with INT 3 or 5, and you'll realize why the more typical flying mounts aren't so well suited for this)
20:35:10 <Xain> *imagining*
20:36:51 <Bergo> I was GM for a cleric with 7 int, and they got ambushed by bandits in the trees, He started beating the tree to get him down.
20:36:55 <Bergo> That was amusing
20:37:25 <Bergo> But I'm not getting any filerequest that I can see
20:37:37 <Xain> Let me try really quickly
20:38:03 <Xain> There we go
20:39:20 <Xain> It's not working, oh well
20:39:32 <Xain> How many more people do we need to get going?
20:40:02 <Bergo> 3 or 4, but I'll be heading off for a while now, It's kinda late here, I'll be back tomorrow though ^^
20:40:07 <HTT-Bird> aww.
20:40:08 <Bergo> Cya
20:40:12 <Xain> Cya
20:40:38 <Xain> Well dang I'm just not having any luck tonight
20:43:30 <HTT-Bird> yeah, well, lol
20:45:05 <HTT-Bird> maybe you could help me find a flying mount for my character concept...because it seems like anything with >5-7 INT never is mounted
20:45:43 <Xain> I'll see what I can do
20:45:47 <HTT-Bird> and <5-7 INT does not bode well for any notions of crew resource management that may play into it
20:46:44 <HTT-Bird> oddly enough, a Silver Dragon would be ideal between its INT score, size, and Blindsight ability; HOWEVER, a) that's not really ever considered 'rideable'/'mountable' in the PF SRD...
20:47:06 <Xain> Light Horse?
20:47:09 <HTT-Bird> and b) not everyone is a fan of dragons
20:48:19 <HTT-Bird> to which I reply "landing flare might be an issue..."
20:48:28 <Xain> This is true
20:49:26 <HTT-Bird> (pegasi would wind up landing 'flat' which means they have to drag their wing angle of incidence up high to 'flare' and there's only so much you can do in that regard
20:50:48 <HTT-Bird> a Sphinx is definitely smart enough, but size might be an issue
20:51:17 <Xain> Unicorn?
20:52:33 <HTT-Bird> same landing attitude problem
20:53:44 <Blasticka> gooooood morning every body! How did you all sleep?
20:54:00 <HTT-Bird> (any time you bolt wings onto something that's not used to running on its hind legs alone, you're going to wind up with a really fast, flat landing, and while that might work for JFK 13R, its not going to work in your average forest clearing
20:55:08 <Xain> What's a type of very large bird that would work?
20:55:12 <Xain> Pheonix?
20:56:00 <HTT-Bird> Giant Eagles come close, save for being speechless
20:57:07 <HTT-Bird> Giant Owls would work, provided the rider was telepathic to them, although that'd make life a bit too easy
20:57:33 <Xain> What about Giant Falcons?
20:57:51 <Xain> You speed great diving speed
20:57:56 <Xain> Decent takeoff
20:58:00 <Xain> Close quarters
20:58:56 <Blasticka> as long as you don't get a giant pidgeon. they would only be able to poop on the enemy.
20:59:13 <Xain> xD
20:59:44 <HTT-Bird> Xain: let me look at their INT score and lingustic abilities...a phoenix would work btw, it seems :)
20:59:55 <Blasticka> do either of you like to GM?
21:00:06 <Xain> nope, im pretty much new
21:00:18 <HTT-Bird> I have never tried to GM a tabletop game before, as I'm also still rather damp behind the ears
21:00:48 <Blasticka> ah okay. do either of you have level 1-2 characters looking for a game to play today?
21:00:59 <Xain> yes, just rolled a char
21:01:08 <Xain> in PF correct?
21:01:21 <Blasticka> yes I meant online in pathfinder
21:02:31 <HTT-Bird> I am trying to put together a character concept
21:02:49 <Xain> yes for me, but we should wait on HTT
21:03:38 <HTT-Bird> giant falcons btw are a no
21:03:42 <HTT-Bird> bad int, and no languages
21:04:01 <HTT-Bird> I am not trying to turn my character into a one-armed paper hanger!
21:04:31 <Xain> haha
21:04:46 <Blasticka> well we'll see but maybe once Steven wakes up we can play a game if you guys have some time this morning
21:04:57 <Xain> I have around 3 hours
21:05:20 <Blasticka> hmmm. games usually take 4-5 or sometimes even 6
21:05:30 <Xain> well if we are playing I can make an exception
21:05:34 <Blasticka> if people dilly dally too much
21:05:41 <Xain> lol
21:06:17 <Xain> I have a fresh charge on my e-cigarette and plenty of coffee
21:06:37 <Blasticka> maybe mekkis is up
21:06:47 <Blasticka> Mekkis? you around mate?
21:10:42 <Xain> Doesn't look like it :(
21:12:57 <HTT-Bird> the other thing: it seems like PFS is more 'classical dungeon crawl' with lots of underground/indoor spaces in play...
21:13:20 <HTT-Bird> which really isn't nice to my character concept from either a narrativist or a gamist viewpoint
21:14:13 <Xain> though it could possibly be intense
21:14:14 <HTT-Bird> (being dismounted all of the time means you lose the ability to RP around the mount/rider dynamic, and darnit, air superiority wins wars)
21:16:02 <Xain> What if we run into a great room in a dungeon and need someone to fly around and check things out?
21:16:05 <HTT-Bird> (whilst my vision is more a mix of 'crusty freightdog' and 'reserved, kindly healer' than 'Top Gun-ish'
21:16:23 <HTT-Bird> Xain: apparently there isn't even much opportunity for Medium riders on Large mounts
21:16:39 <HTT-Bird> and I'm seriously considering a mount > Large size category here
21:16:45 <Xain> dang well there goes my theory
21:17:51 <Blasticka> I have to say, that while my experience is limited, the only cavalair I've played with often had to dismount and fight on foot
21:18:10 <Blasticka> although there were some outdoor combats where he could ride
21:22:20 <HTT-Bird> Blasticka, *nods* yeah, that kind of really hampers the way my char concept would be useful in the party
21:25:55 <Blasticka> although I am not sure what the rules are for "squeezing"
21:25:59 <HTT-Bird> dunno
21:26:01 <Blasticka> to get through corridors
21:26:16 <HTT-Bird> some taxi clearance :P
21:27:54 <Blasticka> if you have a mount, definitely want a reach weapon
21:28:02 <Blasticka> like a naginata or a glaive or something
21:28:09 <HTT-Bird> the other thing is I'm worried about the outdoor side of that char concept's RP straining a GM, and agreed on that one
21:28:26 <Blasticka> cause you will often be at the back
21:28:32 <Mekkis> Blasticka, if you have a mount, you use a lance
21:28:43 <Blasticka> there you go. that would work
21:28:50 <HTT-Bird> in that the GM would have to come up with data points and a level of detail that would not otherwise be needed
21:28:54 <Blasticka> and good morning mekkis! :-)
21:29:10 <HTT-Bird> ...most GMs don't exactly draft sectionals for their game worlds AIUI
21:29:17 <Mekkis> moin. Just drove for 3 hours
21:29:37 <Blasticka> have you had your humanizing coffee and shower and brekkie?
21:29:58 <Blasticka> I've had my mountain dew. such a naughty pleasure of mine lol
21:31:12 <HTT-Bird> whereas, for RPing this char while mounted, things like terrain and procedures would matter a lot more
21:32:51 <HTT-Bird> ...it'd be really bad if the GM didn't have the terrain defined well enough in a mountainous region to allow for an instrument approach to be created in the first place!
21:33:21 <Blasticka> it's definitely more versatile to be on foot
21:33:44 <Blasticka> or at the very least, to have the ability to be effective while on the ground OR mounted. rather than relying always on the horse
21:33:57 <Blasticka> keep in mind you have a 150 gold starting limit
21:34:26 <Blasticka> so starter equipment needs to fall under that category
21:34:41 <Blasticka> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
21:34:51 <HTT-Bird> yeah. this char wouldn't be completely reliant on being mounted for combat
21:34:58 <Blasticka> so how close are you two to being able to play?
21:35:04 <HTT-Bird> not really.
21:35:11 <Blasticka> if we convince mekkis to GM, what's your eta?
21:35:42 <HTT-Bird> dunno.
21:37:08 <Blasticka> have you registered on pfrpg.com?
21:37:16 <Blasticka> they have character sheets you can set up
21:37:39 <Blasticka> and you also have to register the character on Paizo.com and get a cfs number
21:38:12 <HTT-Bird> no, I don't even quite have the concept down solid yet
21:38:44 <Longshot> Hy blasticka. Sorry it's taking so long to get this chronicle sheet to you guys. I'm trying to do it now but can't figure out how to import just the one page of this document to gimp
21:40:17 <Blasticka> no worries
21:40:28 <Blasticka> if steven wakes up, wanna gm for us again or are you busy today?
21:40:45 <Blasticka> Mekkis said we could have Steven give you an adventure to GM. :-D
21:40:59 <Blasticka> or maybe that was avatar I can't remember now
21:41:11 <Longshot> Can't today. Have to actually sleep tonight.
21:41:14 <Longshot> haha
21:41:29 <HTT-Bird> I have a sneaking feeling that I'm trying to construct a character that's too far outside the 'character space' that PFRPG expects participating characters to occupy
21:41:38 <Blasticka> awww. sad day. say hello to Htt bird and xain
21:41:47 <Longshot> Howdy.
21:42:55 <Xain> Why hello there
21:42:56 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird: what's the character?
21:43:46 <Longshot> Mekkis, do you know a way i can import just one page of this pdf file to gimp so I can get everyone's chronicle sheet to them?
21:44:13 <Mekkis> Longshot, use inkscape, not gimp
21:44:19 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, it's a cross between 'kindly and noble healer' and 'wizened old bush-pilot'
21:45:03 <Mekkis> and the command is pdftocairo -f PAGE -l PAGE -svg PDF-FILE chronicle.svg
21:45:33 <Longshot> I don't think i can do commands on a mac
21:45:46 <HTT-Bird> so, a lot of the RP for the concept is built on the rider-mount dynamics involved with a high-INT (>6 or so) flying mount, a human rider, and flying under what would effectively be IFR
21:45:51 <Xain> I think he means from a terminal window
21:46:14 <Longshot> I'm not very computer savvy.
21:46:26 <Xain> oh then goto finder
21:46:29 <Xain> utilities
21:46:33 <Xain> terminal
21:46:34 <Mekkis> longshot, open a terminal
21:46:46 <Xain> then type su -
21:46:50 <HTT-Bird> it seems that PFRPG play is focused on indoor/cavern-based dungeons though
21:46:55 <HTT-Bird> Xain, no need for the su -
21:46:58 <Longshot> ok, opened
21:47:10 * HTT-Bird slaps xain with the Principle of Least Privilege
21:47:15 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird: human rider makes it hard
21:47:24 <Mekkis> go gnome and it's fine
21:47:28 <Xain> oh, sorry been doing centOS for the last two weeks
21:47:42 <Longshot> GO GNOME
21:47:44 <Longshot> they are cool.
21:48:10 <Xain> what is the directory in which apps are stored on mac?
21:48:15 <Xain> I forget :\
21:49:27 <Mekkis> why does it matter, Xain
21:49:32 <Mekkis> they should be in PATH
21:49:32 <Blasticka> A gnome on a wardog!
21:49:36 <Blasticka> arf arf
21:49:52 * Xain blocks HTT-Bird with the Shield of even Lesser Privilege
21:50:15 <Xain> True, of the big 3 OSes mac is at the bottom
21:50:22 <Xain> for me in exp
21:50:24 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, I take it you're saying that because of size issues with the mount?
21:50:46 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, yeah, if you're riding a large creature, expect o have issues
21:51:07 <HTT-Bird> yeah. and I'm looking at large and > for mounts b/c that's what's in character for that character concept
21:51:32 <Longshot> what do i do now that terminal is open?
21:51:34 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, are you looking at for PFS, or for PFRPG in general
21:51:38 <Mekkis> type pdfcairo
21:51:40 <HTT-Bird> PFS, sorry.
21:51:50 <HTT-Bird> that might be part of my problem
21:51:52 <Mekkis> sorry pdftocairo
21:52:15 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, it will just mean that you'll have less opportunities to shine
21:52:29 <Mekkis> you should be able to lead the animal indoors, but riding it will be an issue
21:54:07 <HTT-Bird> *nods* I take it that's true even for a mount of > Large size?
21:54:22 <Mekkis> considering the Mammoth Rider prestige class?
21:54:31 <HTT-Bird> *looks up that class*
21:54:45 <Mekkis> once it becomes Huge, it's likely you'll have issues.
21:54:54 <Mekkis> Large can generally be lead inside though
21:55:51 <HTT-Bird> Mekkis, with the added complication of a flying mount
21:56:11 <Mekkis> as a rule, can't fly while squeezing
21:56:15 <HTT-Bird> yeah
21:56:37 <HTT-Bird> which makes sense, considering squeezing for fliers involves folding the wings
21:57:00 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, I would suggest keeping that character concept around when a non-PFS campaign happens, and coming up with something else for PFS
21:57:08 <HTT-Bird> and you don't have a steam catapult to get you up above Vso :P (otherwise, you'd pull an A-4)
21:57:23 <Mekkis> I don't understand that terminology
21:57:41 <HTT-Bird> (it's a reference to the A-4 Skyhawk and its lack of foldable wings, which is unusual for a carrierborne aircraft)
21:57:50 <Mekkis> ah
21:58:00 <Mekkis> V_so is velocity of?
21:58:10 <HTT-Bird> V_so is the stall speed in landing configuration
21:58:33 <HTT-Bird> so really V_so(t) for a jet considering your T/O conf and landing conf are not always going to be the same
21:58:49 <Mekkis> ah
22:00:25 <HTT-Bird> yeah, I suspect PFS would require me to do something else altogether, its just I'm not sure what, yet :P
22:00:34 * HTT-Bird has a habit of coming up with fringe characters
22:01:39 * Xain needs to start watching fringe
22:01:48 <Mekkis> HTT-Bird, I suggest you read up on Golarian Lore, and come up with a character based on that
22:01:56 <Blasticka> it's a steven!
22:01:59 <Blasticka> good morning sir
22:02:16 <Blasticka> how fares the mighty breath of your lungs this day?
22:02:22 <HTT-Bird> *nods* yeah...I don't read lore in the same way most folks do either
22:03:20 <HTT-Bird> instead of being that terribly interested in religious rites and cultural details, I'm more after a very solid theory of how the world operates
22:03:51 <HTT-Bird> and I'm even less interested in a character-based history of the world
22:04:02 <HTT-Bird> I tend to see history through events and developments
22:07:53 <Xain> Guys I am going to have to log off
22:08:06 <HTT-Bird> o/
22:08:11 <Xain> It's evening and I do not feel well, will you all be on over the weekend?
22:09:53 <Blasticka> it's alright. get some rest and yes on saturday I'll be online
22:10:37 <Xain> ok im just going to stay logged in, Saturday I will have 24 hours of nothing going on
22:10:44 <Xain> and it shall be glorious
22:10:53 <Xain> HTT hope you get your character up and going :-P
22:11:55 <HTT-Bird> hehe, its just a matter of finding a suitable campaign/environment for the char
22:11:55 <Mekkis> some rather breathtaking views here
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22:33:41 <Mekkis> let's see how much flaming my thread necromancy and campaigning for the Spring Loaded Wrist Sheath's ban will cause.
22:40:55 <Blasticka> Ban? oh noes! I just bought the book so I could use them lol
22:49:36 <Mekkis> hey
22:49:41 <Mekkis> it's a broken item
22:50:32 <Blasticka> only if an ogre steps on the gear part...
22:50:35 <Blasticka> :-P
22:50:46 <Goya> Wow.. I managed to ban myself from AustNet..
22:51:24 <Goya> I was trying to get auto-identify to work with IRSSI and I managed to double-connect - which is against the rules I guess..
22:53:58 <Blasticka> ouch
22:54:06 <Blasticka> wanna play pathfinder?
22:54:09 <Blasticka> :-D
22:54:34 <Goya> I would - but it's a bit late for me.. =(
22:54:50 <Goya> Going to bed at midnight would kill me.
22:55:42 <Goya> I'm going to try the auth thing ONE more time - then give up..
22:55:50 <HTT-Bird> IIRC, I got booted off of FreeNode once because their auto-zombie-detection false-positive'd on me
22:56:13 <Goya> Hehe. Freenode was fine with it.. AustNet - not so much.. =)
23:04:40 <Mekkis> Brunius, Brunius|M: you around?
23:07:42 <Brunius|M> Could be
23:07:45 <Brunius|M> Why?
23:18:55 <Goya> Damn. I better not do that again.. I'm going to perma-ban myself at this rate..
23:19:04 <Mekkis> heh
23:20:32 <Blasticka> heya brunius.
23:20:49 <Goya> The PDF versions of the books work if you play PFS in-person don't they? (e.g. I don't need to lug around the hardcovers?)
23:21:02 <Mekkis> Goya, you SHOULD print out the relevant pages
23:21:18 <Blasticka> probably depends on the GM if you have your laptop there maybe they wouldn't mind
23:21:26 <Goya> *nods* But - if I have a tablet with me or whatnot?
23:21:40 <Goya> *nods* Ok. I'll probably just cart the books. Better safe than sorry.
23:21:55 <Mekkis> I strongly dislike laptops on tables. Plus, it's cluncky to search a given file on a device.
23:22:25 <Goya> I just don't want to lug around 30lb of books all weekend.. Heh.
23:22:52 <Mekkis> Goya, if you own the PDFs, just print out the required pages and you'll be fine
23:23:06 <Goya> Ok. Thanks guys.
23:23:18 <Mekkis> you have a folder for your character, right?
23:24:10 <Goya> Not yet - but I plan on taking several copies of the char sheet and my cheat-sheet notes along.
23:24:19 <Mekkis> I use Marbig Bindermate display books: it lets me put the character sheet in the front, followed by the printouts of Additional Resources, followed by all the chronicle sheets
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23:24:25 <Mekkis> you MUST bring the chronicle sheets
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23:24:44 <Mekkis> http://www.marbig.com.au/products/images/Zoom/z22004%20BindermateDispBk%20b%20WBg%20DEI.jpg
23:24:52 <Goya> Thanks Mekkis
23:25:10 <Goya> Chronicle sheets? Are they special - or can I use the herolab printouts (with my Paizo char ID)?
23:25:29 <Mekkis> you NEED the actual chronicle sheets
23:25:36 <Mekkis> you can't use herolab printouts
23:25:40 <Goya> Ah crap.
23:25:52 <Mekkis> the ONLY thing you should use herolab printouts for is your actual character sheet
23:26:12 <Mekkis> (fyi, owning the herolab resource is NOT the same as owning the book/PDF)
23:27:19 <Goya> I know - I own the books - I just got herolab to make it easier to roll characters.
23:31:26 <Goya> Where the heck is the generic PFS Chronicle sheet? It looks like you get those when you actually play the game.
23:31:53 <Mekkis> why do you need a generic PFS chronicle sheet?
23:32:51 <Goya> You said I need to take the chronicle sheets... I'm thinking I'm just slow - and you get those over time as you actually play. If I've never played - I don't have any. (?)
23:33:41 <Mekkis> that's correct
23:33:44 <Mekkis> so you're fine
23:33:55 <Goya> I guess - to make a long story short - I'm planning on playing my first few sessions in a few weeks - without prior experience. So - I can just take the herolab sheet (or whatever) and go from there.
23:34:09 <Mekkis> when you play, your GM will give your a chronicle sheet when you're done
23:34:19 <Goya> *nods* Makes sense. Thanks.
23:34:28 <Mekkis> if you play online, the GM will probably give it to you electronically
23:34:41 <Mekkis> you'll need to print it out
23:34:54 <Goya> Ok. Easy enough.
23:35:20 <Mekkis> (I personally offer to mail chronicle sheets, if people want my signature on it, but I don't know many other who offer that)
23:36:23 <Goya> Hehe. Must cost you a fortune to mail internationally
23:36:39 <Mekkis> $AU2 or so. Not that much
23:43:28 <Blasticka> Steven you awake?
23:44:22 <Goya> He went to the shop a few hours ago to open up I think - so he should be awake.
23:52:27 <Mekkis> I need to come up with another character concept
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