// #d&d — 2013-06-02
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00:00:04 <Arkwright> I could make an army...
00:00:20 <Arkwright> The funny thing is that these homunculi are certainly more cash-efficient than crafting any kind of golem
00:01:04 <Arkwright> Hey, the rules for upgrading an item; is it still split the distance? Can I upgade my Belt of Dex +2 into +4 by spending 12k?
00:02:20 <Mekkis> yes
00:02:36 <Mekkis> 300,000 left over?
00:03:04 <Mekkis> just make a 150HD homunculus
00:03:13 <Arkwright> heh
00:03:17 <Mekkis> see if you can take every feat you qualify for
00:03:18 <Arkwright> but doesn't the table only go so high?
00:03:28 <Mekkis> which table?
00:03:41 <Arkwright> monster advancement
00:04:27 <Arkwright> yeah constructs go up to a maximum of 31 hit dice on the table.
00:04:31 <Mekkis> what?
00:04:32 <Mekkis> oh
00:04:34 <Mekkis> HD/CR
00:04:36 <Mekkis> sure
00:04:47 <Mekkis> but as a player, you shouldn't look at CR
00:05:33 <Arkwright> Why?
00:05:45 <Arkwright> The Hd -> CR table is used for the Cr -> everything else table
00:05:59 <Mekkis> there's a CR -> everything else table?
00:06:08 <Mekkis> CR is a guideline for the GM
00:06:17 <Mekkis> (it's a very loose guideline)
00:06:21 <Arkwright> hmm
00:06:52 <Mekkis> Encounter Design is more like Economics than engineering, science or math
00:07:36 <Arkwright> So what were you using to advance your homunculus?
00:07:55 <Arkwright> Ah here
00:07:57 <Arkwright> statistics summary
00:07:58 <Mekkis> it's "How much can I throw at the party before it TPKs" (as opposed to Economics' "How much Quantitative Easing can I do before we get hyperinflation")
00:07:59 <Arkwright> page 293
00:08:06 <Arkwright> true
00:08:22 <Mekkis> pretty simple
00:08:23 <Arkwright> But again, the page 293 table only goes up to 30 hit dice. Can't have anything beyond it
00:08:33 <Mekkis> tell that to Acheakek
00:08:46 <Mekkis> for a construct, BAB=HD
00:08:57 <Mekkis> saves = HD / 3 round down.
00:09:07 <Mekkis> feats = HD / 2 round up
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00:09:19 <Arkwright> hrmmm.
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00:09:36 <Arkwright> but... we don't use a formula to advance fighter BAB or animal companion feats
00:09:38 <Arkwright> we use a table
00:09:44 <Arkwright> hrrmm
00:09:58 <Mekkis> the table follows those rules
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00:12:15 <Mekkis> but there are several monsters with >30 HD
00:12:43 <Arkwright> produced by paizo?
00:12:52 <Mekkis> Acheakek
00:12:54 <Arkwright> any adventuring equipment I should add to Arkwright?
00:13:06 <Mekkis> !find Arkwright
00:13:06 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=754
00:13:22 <Mekkis> (The Mantis God)
00:14:03 <Mekkis> you seem to not have a potion of lesser restoration
00:14:07 <Mekkis> this is Very Bad
00:14:11 <Mekkis> you should have three
00:14:31 <Mekkis> oh.
00:14:42 <Mekkis> Ah Magi. There are two types
00:14:49 <Mekkis> Those who use shocking grasp
00:14:55 <Mekkis> And Those who are ineffective
00:15:03 <Arkwright> :)
00:15:07 <Arkwright> oh my poor unenlightened Mekkis
00:15:14 <Arkwright> they say when the student is ready, the master will appear...
00:18:16 <Mekkis> Hey! My head wants to remain in the sand. Away from those snowballs.
00:19:08 <Arkwright> heh.
00:19:19 <Arkwright> i'm more of a frostbite fella.
00:19:28 <Mekkis> !spell frostbite
00:19:30 <Arkwright> with a dash of Monstrous Physique.
00:19:34 <diebot> Mekkis, FROSTBITE transmutation ([cold]) druid 1, magus 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yes
00:19:34 <diebot> Your melee touch attack deals 1d6 points of nonlethal cold damage + 1 point per level, and the target is fatigued. The fatigued condition ends when the target recovers from the nonlethal damage. This spell cannot make a creature exhausted even if it is already fatigued. You can use this melee touch attack up to one time per level.
00:20:46 <Mekkis> but yeah. Where are your potions of lesser restoration?
00:21:00 <Arkwright> interesting question
00:21:18 <Arkwright> worth picking up?
00:21:31 <Mekkis> definitely
00:21:45 <Mekkis> as in, you should have bought one when you were second level
00:21:54 <Mekkis> ability damage sucks.
00:22:14 <Mekkis> (and Lesser Restoration takes 3 rounds to cast, so you can't really get away with it in-combat)
00:22:22 <Arkwright> hmm aye.
00:22:30 <Mekkis> it also removes fatigue, which is great when you need to keep watch
00:22:34 <Arkwright> I don't think i've ever had much issue with ability damage
00:22:34 <Arkwright> true
00:25:22 <Avatar> when you do encounter ability damage, it hurts bad
00:25:30 <Avatar> you'll want those potions
00:25:44 <Mekkis> wtf? Avatar is agreeing with me?
00:26:55 <Avatar> I agree with some things
00:27:05 <Avatar> !
00:27:11 <Avatar> not many admittedly
00:27:58 <Arkwright> heh
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00:30:15 <Mekkis> What do you study, Arkwright?
00:31:05 <Arkwright> Law/IT
00:31:32 <Mekkis> Undergrad?
00:31:47 <Arkwright> yup
00:31:50 <Arkwright> much fun.
00:32:12 <Mekkis> what's accommodation like in ACT?
00:33:08 <Arkwright> decent enough I would say.
00:34:01 <Mekkis> expensive?
00:34:48 <Arkwright> Compared to where? :P it's Canberra- reasonably cheap.
00:35:01 <Mekkis> other capital cities
00:35:28 <Arkwright> aye
00:36:02 <Arkwright> woo 4th level spell time
00:36:05 <Arkwright> let's see what i can get...
00:36:41 <Arkwright> What do you think of Dimension Door and Greater Invisibility?
00:36:53 <Mekkis> they're both very useful spells
00:36:55 <Mekkis> oh
00:36:57 <Mekkis> that reminds me
00:37:49 <Mekkis> Does Arkwright have a 100% effective "get out of grapple" option?
00:39:00 <Arkwright> he does now
00:39:02 <Arkwright> dimension door!
00:39:09 <Mekkis> not 100% effective
00:39:14 <Arkwright> why not?
00:39:24 <Mekkis> concentration check to cast while grappled
00:39:32 <Arkwright> it has no somatic components.
00:39:34 <Arkwright> no check needed.
00:39:38 <Mekkis> incorrect
00:39:41 <Arkwright> ?
00:39:51 <Mekkis> it has no somatic components. This means that you can actually cast it.
00:40:06 <Arkwright> ?
00:40:09 <Arkwright> how so?
00:40:44 <Mekkis> CRB p206
00:40:45 <Mekkis> Grappling or Pinned: The only spells you can cast
00:40:45 <Mekkis> while grappling or pinned are those without somatic
00:40:45 <Mekkis> components and whose material components (if any) you
00:40:45 <Mekkis> have in hand. Even so, you must make a concentration
00:40:45 <Mekkis> check (DC 10 + the grappler’s CMB + the level of the spell
00:40:45 <Mekkis> you’re casting) or lose the spell.
00:41:15 <Arkwright> ahh
00:41:19 <Arkwright> hmm
00:41:23 <Arkwright> i'm not too worried yet
00:41:28 <Mekkis> you won't be
00:41:30 <Arkwright> i've got Combat Casting and a decent INT mid
00:41:54 <Mekkis> level 9?
00:42:17 <Arkwright> 10
00:42:18 <Arkwright> just dinged
00:42:29 <Mekkis> so +17 to concentration?
00:43:09 <Arkwright> would seem so
00:43:53 <Mekkis> so when that 14th level wizard casts Black Tentacles on you, the concentration DC is 33.
00:44:14 <Mekkis> you'll make that on... a 16 on the dice.
00:44:17 <Arkwright> most likely
00:44:26 <Arkwright> as a 10th level character should i be overly worried about 14th level casters?
00:44:31 <Mekkis> yes.
00:44:38 <Arkwright> hmm eh
00:44:42 <Mekkis> at tier 10-11, they're a typical end boss
00:44:44 <Arkwright> i'll pick up a shirt of freedom of movement later
00:44:46 <Arkwright> other priorities now.
00:44:58 <Mekkis> or any monster with grab
00:47:16 <Arkwright> Heh alos it just occured to me
00:47:18 <Mekkis> the CR12 Purple Worm has +36 CMB. So your concentration DC is 50. That's impossible for you to achieve
00:47:23 <Arkwright> there'll be a much lower DC to cast Grease.
00:47:38 <Mekkis> or &liberating command
00:47:45 <diebot> LIBERATING COMMAND transmutation ([]) bard 1, cleric 1, druid 1, paladin 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 immediate action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
00:47:46 <diebot> If the target is bound, grappled, or otherwise restrained, he may make an Escape Artist check to escape as an immediate action. He gains a competence bonus on this check equal to twice your caster level (maximum +20). This spell has no effect if the target could not get free by using the Escape Artist skill (for example, if he were under the
00:47:46 <diebot> effects of a hold person spell or paralyzed by Strength damage).
00:47:49 <Mekkis> but still, it's not something you want to take chances with
00:48:11 <Arkwright> that isn't a magus spell.
00:48:16 <Mekkis> pity
00:48:53 <Mekkis> but the Method to Escape Grapples is pretty important
00:49:10 <Mekkis> Cape of the Mountebank
00:51:00 <Arkwright> the advantage is that if i'm being set on by a high-CR high-CMB monster, chances are it'll be the sole enemy or most dangerous target, so i'll have much help from the party.
00:51:55 <Arkwright> Hmm Unfettered Shirt is better
00:52:03 <Arkwright> immunity from grapples for ten minutes rather than a one-time escape
00:52:07 <Arkwright> plus slightly cheaper.
00:52:12 <Mekkis> depends
00:52:23 <Mekkis> if you'd rather still be next to the enemy
00:53:02 <Mekkis> a CR10 Derghodaemon has grab and +23 to grapple, so the DC would be 37
00:53:39 <Arkwright> i am a magus, i want to be in amidst the action
00:53:55 <Mekkis> true that
00:54:12 <Mekkis> what's the activation of the &unfettered shirt
00:54:14 <diebot> UNFETTERED SHIRT [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:7 chest 10000gp, 0lb
00:54:14 <diebot> This loose, often ruffled, shirt is cut in a style designed to avoid hindering its wearer's movement. Once per day on command, the wearer can gain the benefits of freedom of movement for 10 minutes. Source: Ultimate Equipment
00:54:21 <Mekkis> standard action
00:54:28 <Mekkis> could be worse
00:54:37 <Arkwright> same as Mountebank cape
00:54:43 <Mekkis> yeah
00:54:43 <Arkwright> oh lord- want to see the most painful recruitment page ever?
00:54:45 <Arkwright> http://paizo.com/campaigns/dragonRidersReborn/recruiting#7
00:55:37 <Mekkis> why do people still do that
00:56:22 <Arkwright> because people like me are so desperate for a high-levelled game they're willing to risk it?
00:56:23 <Arkwright> xD
00:56:32 <Mekkis> level 30?
00:56:33 <Mekkis> really?
00:56:48 <Mekkis> why not run your own?
00:57:02 <Arkwright> i'm already running two
00:57:08 <Arkwright> and not enough experience for one so high level.
00:58:21 <Arkwright> ....huh
00:58:36 <Arkwright> the Dragonrider third party class has spontaneous arcane spellcasting
00:58:41 <Arkwright> so it qualifies for Dragon Disciple
00:58:42 <Arkwright> fascinating
00:58:42 <Mekkis> yeah
00:58:53 <Mekkis> I played one in a kingmaker game, once.
00:59:29 <Mekkis> Arkwright, you think that GM has experience running high-levelled games?
00:59:41 <Arkwright> heh, true.
00:59:52 <Arkwright> actually
01:00:07 <Arkwright> i checked out his profile- he just got into a 20th level game
01:00:09 <Arkwright> how, I have no idea.
01:05:31 <Mekkis> WotW might have a slot opening up soon...
01:05:43 <Arkwright> hmm maybe
01:05:50 <Arkwright> i've been wanting to test out an idea for necromancers.
01:09:28 <Mekkis> in the meantime, sleep
01:10:53 <Arkwright> aye
01:10:55 <Arkwright> night
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02:51:34 <syraned> hi
02:52:49 <syraned> anyone here?
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03:26:47 <Bloodlust> hello again :)
03:29:22 <Bloodlust> Turns out if I can play one more game before Tuesday then I can play my new gunslinger for the lantern lodge game
03:29:52 <Bloodlust> Sorry, before Thursday :)
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10:32:24 <Ballig> that's a lot of pinging
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10:51:54 <Steven> ashar... you having terrible connecting
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10:59:29 <Ashar> I told Avatar
10:59:32 Ashar is now known as Falang
10:59:54 <Avatar> what did you tell me
11:00:02 <Falang> that my connection sucked
11:00:29 <Ballig> did you spill coke on your modem
11:00:37 <Falang> no, semen.
11:00:49 <Avatar> thanks for prompting that one ballig
11:01:00 <Ballig> yes that was my bad
11:01:06 <Avatar> god
11:01:38 <Falang> it's just shoddy thai workmanship on the wiring... and way too many junctions where the wires connect to other wires.
11:01:51 <Ballig> do you live in thailand
11:02:23 <Falang> That's a mighty large rock you live under. Yes. ;)
11:02:44 <Ballig> are you a thai ladyboy
11:03:11 <Avatar> what is a thai ladyboy
11:03:17 <Ballig> google it
11:03:21 <Falang> rofl
11:03:22 <Ballig> google images
11:03:24 <Falang> no
11:03:30 <Falang> I'm not that pretty
11:03:40 <Falang> or that thai
11:03:44 <Avatar> oh god
11:03:49 <Ballig> did you check google images
11:03:57 <Avatar> no
11:04:04 <Ballig> you should though
11:04:05 <Ballig> you should
11:04:06 <Avatar> one news article was enough
11:04:30 <Falang> I second that, you should find some images... or better yet, hardcore pornography.
11:04:41 <Ballig> yeah images is the only way you will really know what it is
11:07:45 <Falang> wow, yeah. I hadn't ever google image searched for that before. Sums it up pretty well.
11:09:37 <Falang> I realize how exactly why they have those safesearch filters on high by default
11:09:52 <Falang> and why I shouldn't have turned them off ;)
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12:15:29 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuup
12:15:37 <Steven> how do i unvoice myself again
12:16:16 <Steven> hate this damn @ by my name
12:16:16 * Mekkis removes channel operator status from Steven
12:16:22 <Mekkis> done
12:16:30 <Mekkis> /mode #d&d -o Steven
12:17:42 <Steven> yay
12:17:45 <Steven> no more @
12:17:59 <Steven> i think im going to have taco's for dinner
12:18:44 <Falang> tacos.
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12:30:26 <Brunius|M-> Tacos
12:30:40 <Mekkis> tacos
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12:30:57 <Wrothmonk> bacon taco http://dudefoods.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/BaconWeaveTaco311.jpg
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12:32:02 <Wrothmonk> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1917/ tachos!
12:32:11 <Brunius|M-> Trust America
12:32:24 <Wrothmonk> to clog your arteries.
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12:40:46 <Falang> *sigh*
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12:55:37 <Mekkis> What is the drag coefficient of a brick?
12:57:40 <Avatar> yeah right
13:10:54 <Mekkis> !spell Pugwampi’s Grace
13:11:02 <diebot> Mekkis, PUGWAMPI'S GRACE enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: short (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature (see below) Comp: V, S, M (a pugwampi's hair) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Will negates SR:yes
13:11:03 <diebot> Hated by adventurers throughout the Inner Sea region, the gremlins known as pugwampis infect those around them with a malignant form of unluck-an effect that this spell emulates. If the target fails its Will save, it becomes infused with the so-called "grace of the pugwampi." A creature affected by this spell must roll two d20s whenever a situation
13:11:03 <diebot> calls for a d20 roll (such as an attack roll, a skill check, or a saving throw) and must use the lower of the two results generated. As with the aura shed by actual pugwampies, this spell has no effect on animals, gremlins, or gnolls. The effects of this spell are negated as long as a target gains any sort of luck bonus to a d20 roll (such as those
13:11:03 <diebot> granted by a luckstone or divine favor), but the spell's duration is not impacted by these effects. If the luck bonus goes away before the pugwampi's grace effect ends, the unluck returns and remains until the spell's normal duration runs out.
13:22:32 <Steven> bacon taco sounds at the same time the most amazing thing i've ever heard of and the worst idea ever
13:24:29 <spider21b> hi
13:29:48 <Steven> sup spider
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14:37:32 <spider21b> nothing much
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14:47:55 <spider21b> so what happend with today's game?
14:48:52 <Mekkis> that's a good question
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14:52:38 <Mekkis> what are you doing, Brunius
14:52:43 <Mekkis> I thought you had the car thingy on
14:54:25 <Brunius> My friend has chess today and we're waiting for parts to come in
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14:54:43 <Brunius> Turns out ordering from america doesn't work that well if you want to actually work on stuff
14:55:20 <Brunius> I was intending to go to an SCA event today, too, but there was heavy rain and we usually meet in a drainage basin
14:55:41 <Mekkis> of course!
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15:13:53 <Falang> *sigh*
15:14:23 <Wrothmonk> ?
15:14:31 <spider21b> hum?
15:16:31 <Wrothmonk> why the *sigh*?
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15:17:03 <Ashar> ...probably irritating the crap out of you guys too. I'll come back when it's better..
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15:37:16 <Wrothmonk> Hello
15:38:19 <Brunius> Wasn't this joker spamming yesterday
15:38:28 <Mekkis> not spamming
15:38:29 <Brunius> Clue: Yes
15:38:30 <centurian> hey not the jester
15:38:33 <Mekkis> just inanely talking
15:38:37 <centurian> probably
15:38:38 <Mekkis> centurian, what does D&D stand for?
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15:38:46 <syraned> hi
15:38:51 <Mekkis> hej
15:38:55 <centurian> i know but i won't say it
15:38:59 <centurian> lol
15:39:03 <Mekkis> why not?
15:39:04 <centurian> seen the movie
15:39:09 <Mekkis> movie?
15:39:21 <centurian> jim carey
15:39:27 <centurian> think
15:39:34 <centurian> but don't say
15:39:43 <Mekkis> spit it out
15:39:44 <Wrothmonk> I think we are thinking about different d&ds
15:40:25 <centurian> scratches his head
15:40:37 <centurian> feels kinda gloomy
15:40:39 <centurian> hint
15:40:49 <Mekkis> no hints, spit it out.
15:40:58 <centurian> cabkeman
15:41:01 <centurian> cableman
15:41:08 <centurian> lol
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15:41:26 <Brunius> So, sup syraned
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15:43:23 <syraned> im new to pathfinder
15:43:38 <syraned> looking to join a few noob friendly games to learn
15:43:38 <syraned> :)
15:44:24 <Mekkis> we have many of those
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15:47:59 <syraned> how do I join
15:48:13 <syraned> I've watched a few vids ad n read the beginners box books a bit
15:48:18 <Mekkis> ?guide
15:48:19 <diebot> Mekkis, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
15:48:26 <Mekkis> download that and read it up
15:48:43 <Mekkis> and sign up on http://dnd.ballig.net
15:48:47 <Mekkis> Then create a character
15:48:57 <Mekkis> if you have any questions, ask them here
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16:10:10 <Mekkis> WOW
16:10:16 <Mekkis> We have errata on stealth!@
16:12:25 <Brunius> Huh
16:14:40 <Mekkis> Breaking Stealth: When you start your turn using Stealth, you can leave cover or concealment and remain unobserved as long as you succeed at a Stealth check and end your turn in cover or concealment. Your Stealth immediately ends after you make and attack roll, whether or not the attack is successful (except when sniping as noted below).
16:15:07 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/CoreRulebookErrata_1.4.zip
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16:18:14 <Wrothmonk> That seems like a semi-fix to stealth!
16:18:16 <Mekkis> better not show him the hostmask I'm using
16:18:50 <Brunius> because?
16:19:13 <Mekkis> he can obviously change his IP. Banning his name would be bad if he knew I was banning his name
16:19:55 <Mekkis> but yeah
16:20:02 <Mekkis> rogues now... don't suck as much
16:20:08 <Mekkis> don't get me wrong. They still suck.
16:20:35 <Wrothmonk> hey, isnt there a feat that lets you make an attack while moving?
16:20:40 <Mekkis> yes
16:20:49 <Mekkis> the feat is &spring attack
16:21:23 <Wrothmonk> oh wait that wouldnt work...
16:21:29 <Wrothmonk> since it ends at the first attack.
16:21:53 <Mekkis> if you're moving you can't full-attack regardless
16:22:06 <Wrothmonk> Another good point.
16:23:05 <Mekkis> oh
16:23:19 <Mekkis> Cape of the Mountebank now costs 720gp more
16:23:30 <Mekkis> I'm glad Heneski bought his on the cheap
16:23:39 <Wrothmonk> !item Cape of the mountebank
16:23:43 <diebot> Wrothmonk, CAPE OF THE MOUNTEBANK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 shoulders 10800gp, 1lb
16:23:44 <diebot> Once per day on command, this bright red and gold cape allows the wearer to use the magic of the dimension door spell. When he disappears, he leaves behind a cloud of harmless gray smoke, appearing in a similar dramatic fashion at his destination. Source: Ultimate Equipment
16:24:02 <Mekkis> used to be 10080
16:24:42 <Wrothmonk> Neat trick. What is the range?
16:25:20 <Mekkis> So I have Mytiazair, who has A Staff of Stealth obtained pre-errata. Grolschmir who has the pre-errata Heirloom Weapon. Deceased who has a pre-errata Staff of Toxins, and Heneski who has a pre-errata cape of the mountebank.
16:25:37 <Mekkis> Great. my first four characters all have grandfathered items
16:25:49 <Wrothmonk> Had to happen at some point.
16:26:53 <Mekkis> a few balance-adjustments to tbe monk
16:27:17 <Mekkis> back in 2009 I asked why the monk still had the weak ability of Slow Fall
16:27:31 <Mekkis> Buhlman said "legacy"
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16:35:30 <Mekkis> Steven, there's new CRB errata!
16:35:37 <Mekkis> stealth probably works now
16:37:19 <Steven> right...
16:40:08 <spider21b> hey, so in a game you dont have time to use most spells what do you do?
16:40:43 <Brunius> add a function word
16:40:45 <Brunius> maybe two
16:40:56 <Steven> so.... wheres the errata?
16:41:13 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/CoreRulebookErrata_1.4.zip
16:42:17 <Mekkis> spider21b, you use the most suitable spells, obv
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16:51:05 <Wrothmonk> it changes it so you can actually move out from cover with another stealth roll.
16:53:23 <Steven> yeah reading it now
17:11:36 <Steven> some interesting changes
17:16:47 <Mekkis> still think Sneak attack should do 2d6+1d6 per level and have a caveat or 1 use/round
17:21:43 <Mekkis> Steven, can you use a bonded item to counterspell?
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17:56:53 <Avatar> they fixed stealth?
17:59:41 <Wrothmonk> I wouldnt say completely fixed until I have seen it in action. I would however say it has been improved.
18:00:38 <Avatar> the breaking stealth paragraph is strange
18:00:57 <Avatar> does that mean if you leave cover, make a successful stealth check, then make a sneak attack, then you're out of cover
18:01:03 <Avatar> the sneak attack still works?
18:01:27 <Avatar> is that paragraph just talking about staying unobserved at the end of the turn
18:15:39 <Wrothmonk> the sneak attack still works but you lose stealth.
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18:37:06 <Avatar> lol they buffed haste
19:00:16 <Mekkis> they did?
19:00:18 <Mekkis> how so?
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19:06:35 <Avatar> works with natural attacks now
19:14:46 <Mekkisx200> it didn't before?
19:20:35 <Steven> RAW it did not
19:23:21 <Mekkisx200> !spell haste
19:23:26 <diebot> Mekkisx200, HASTE transmutation ([]) alchemist 3, bard 3, magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, M (a shaving of licorice root) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
19:23:27 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/haste.html
19:24:24 <Mekkisx200> When making a full attack action, a hasted creature may make one extra attack with one natural or manufactured weapon
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19:35:40 <spider21b> i see
19:35:58 <centurian> lol
19:36:02 <centurian> what do you see
19:37:30 <Brunius> Mekkis
19:37:35 <Brunius> Mekkisx200
19:37:40 <Brunius> Avatar
19:37:41 <spider21b> that haste is awesome
19:37:43 <Brunius> Steven
19:37:51 <centurian> the invisible crime squad
19:37:54 <centurian> hahahah
19:38:00 <centurian> the army
19:38:13 <centurian> phaoroahs
19:42:50 <centurian> nobody gives the serpent instructions
19:55:11 <Mekkisx200> oh
19:55:13 <Mekkisx200> fun
19:55:14 <Mekkisx200> brb
19:57:42 <diebot> SPRING ATTACK [Combat]Prereq: Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, base attack bonus +4. You can deftly move up to a foe, strike, and withdraw before he can react.
19:57:43 <diebot> Benefit: As a full-round action, you can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack. You can move both before and after the attack, but you must move at least 10 feet before the attack and the total distance that you move cannot be greater than your speed. You
19:57:43 <diebot> cannot use this ability to attack a foe that is adjacent to you at the start of your turn.
19:57:43 <diebot> Normal: You cannot move before and after an attack. Source: Core
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19:57:51 <Mekkisx200> :o
19:58:00 <Mekkisx200> I didn't expect that
19:58:36 <Mekkisx200> why don't you just give Brunius ops?
19:58:53 <Brunius> Who wants a moody 16 year old with ops
19:59:03 <Mekkisx200> I do
19:59:20 <Brunius> Have I accidentally ignored someone? Was anyone but centurian talking just then?
19:59:22 <Mekkisx200> throw some responsibility your way
20:00:50 <Mekkisx200> what could possibly go wrong
20:01:17 <Mekkisx200> hmmm
20:01:20 <Mekkisx200> 5 zombies
20:01:28 <spider21b> why soo many zomibes?
20:01:52 <Mekkisx200> because I'm not sending SIGCHILD to them like a good boy
20:06:40 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate
20:06:45 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate35
20:06:46 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 20: Elf
20:06:51 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate Pathfinder
20:06:51 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 93: Kobold
20:06:55 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate30
20:06:56 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 83: Pixie
20:06:59 <Mekkisx200> :o
20:07:07 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate mort
20:07:13 <Mekkisx200> !reincarnate Mort
20:07:14 <diebot> Mekkisx200, Roll: 17: Gnome
20:20:09 <Steven> i think its time for some sleep
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