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27:07 <Mekkis> <idlerpg> Mekkis, the ' or 1=1;-- has attained level 90! Next level in 4393 days, 23:08:47.
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33:16 <Mekkis> it's a Surprising chemical!
33:43 <Hydrazine> Only really surprising during exothermic reactions.
34:11 <Mekkis> how have things been?
35:10 <Hydrazine> Ineffective. How have things been here?
35:44 <Mekkis> alright, mostly
35:54 <Mekkis> Interested in playing in WotW?
57:49 <Brunius> Can I set you on fire
58:18 <Mekkis> Brunius, get a qt development environment set up
58:26 <Brunius> How about no
58:33 <Mekkis> I can't take that for an answer
58:43 <Brunius> How about no, sir
58:50 <Mekkis> I can't take that either
59:03 <Brunius> No, your illustrious highness?
59:44 <Mekkis> I appreciate the complement, but I still can't take no for an answer.
01:03 <Mekkis> http://qt-project.org/downloads
12:34 <Hydrazine> I thought WotW was some big thing already full up you guys been going on for a while?
12:41 <Mekkis> yeah
12:52 <Mekkis> but there's the opportunity to introduce a new character soon
15:53 <Hydrazine> I know nothing about it.
16:02 <Mekkis> that's fine
16:29 <Mekkis> the important thing is it's running on Saturdays, starting around 1:30.
16:40 <Mekkis> Generally once every two weeks
17:30 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=38
29:24 <Hydrazine> I'll take a look.
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02:51 <Mekkis>     The sensitivity of C2N14 is beyond our capabilities of measurement. The smallest possible loadings in shock and friction tests led to explosive decomposition. . .
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34:54 <Newb> Hiya, anyone around?
37:11 <Mekkis_x200> ja
37:44 <Wrothmonk> Allo
38:01 <Wrothmonk> Ello*
38:18 <Newb> So do you accept people new to the game or do you prefer people with some kind of experience?
38:41 <Mekkis_x200> anyone who'swilling to roleplay and learn
39:42 <Newb> Ok cool
40:00 <Newb> Is there like a joining procedure or something
40:12 <Wrothmonk> just sign up at pfrpg.com.au
40:26 <Mekkis_x200> and read the guide
40:30 <Mekkis_x200> ?guide
40:31 <diebot> Mekkis_x200, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
40:31 <Wrothmonk> you will also need a character for pathfinder society.
40:48 <Wrothmonk> Most of the time people will jump to answer any questions you have.
40:53 <Newb> I'm only allowed to have one character? :(
41:00 <Mekkis_x200> no
41:08 <Wrothmonk> What gave you that idea?
41:17 <Newb> That I need a character for pathfinder society
41:26 <Newb> I thought that meant you have one character in the society
41:32 <Newb> Me assuming things. I'll stop that now.
42:15 <Mekkis_x200> you can have as many as you want
42:42 <Mekkis_x200> I'd suggest not making a second character until your first character reaches about 4th level though
42:47 <Newb> Although I should probably stick with one type of character at least for a while seeing as i'm new to the game
43:06 <Wrothmonk> however you can only have 10 characters uploaded to pfrpg.com.au until somebody decides to put in a delete function.
43:19 <Mekkis_x200> only?
43:25 <Newb> Oh, I doubt I'll ever get to that many anyways
43:47 <Wrothmonk> I've hit that limit already Mekkis, half are dead.
43:49 <Mekkis_x200> I've been playing for 4 years or so, and have about 8 characters.
44:07 <Mekkis_x200> Wrothmonk, still means you've been creating too many :P
44:24 <Wrothmonk> Well if people stop butting in games with level 1s...
44:42 <Wrothmonk> No offense intended Newb
44:59 <Newb> Haha its fine
45:54 <Newb> Is it pretty much one big game or lots of smaller games here?
46:09 <Mekkis_x200> lots of small games
46:10 <Wrothmonk> Lots of smaller games, since that is the nature of pathfinder society
47:23 <Wrothmonk> However the universe is consistent. 
47:51 <Newb> My problem is that after reading up on everything, I can't decide what character to build haha
48:12 <Wrothmonk> Rangers and fighters are a good start in my opinion.
48:14 <Newb> Switch hitting ranger sounds fun. Witches sounds fun. Mutagen alchemists sound fun. 
48:34 <Wrothmonk> spellcasters are hard for newbies.
48:36 <Brunius> Don't all alchemists have mutagens?
48:44 <Mekkis_x200> think so
48:50 <Brunius> I've been playing for three years and spellcasters are hard for me :S
48:51 <Newb> yeah but not all alchemists specialize in them
49:05 <Mekkis_x200> heh
49:14 <Mekkis_x200> inverse is true for me
49:33 <Wrothmonk> non-spellcasters are hard?
49:35 <Mekkis_x200> how do you play a non-spellcaster?
49:50 <Wrothmonk> Hulk smash? :P
49:51 <Newb> What about mounted combat? From what I've read its good, but since so many campaigns don't take place outside, you get gimped alot
49:56 <Mekkis_x200> spellcasters are easy
50:19 <Mekkis_x200> Newb, mounted combat works, if you play a small character (halfling or gnome) and ride a medium mount.
50:25 * Mekkis_x200 plays one
50:40 * Wrothmonk has a summoner who will be riding his dragon eidolon
50:46 <Wrothmonk> also a gnome
50:55 <Mekkis_x200> yes. Gnomes are the best race!
51:14 <Newb> aren't small characters at a disadvantage in melee?
51:22 <Wrothmonk> Yes and no
51:31 <Newb> with less strength and smaller damage dice right
51:46 <Wrothmonk> erm, leme check
51:50 <Wrothmonk> I know they get a bonus to AC
51:57 <Mekkis_x200> they get +1 to-hit
52:01 <Mekkis_x200> and +1 AC
52:07 <Brunius> not enough to offset the smaller damage dice
52:15 <Wrothmonk> HD depends on class
52:20 <Mekkis_x200> Disagree.
52:41 <Newb> speaking of summoners, thats another class that looked really cool
52:43 <Wrothmonk> Ah right, thats the downside. Weapons do less damage for being designed for small creatures
52:47 <Newb> especially the synthesis archtype
52:51 <Wrothmonk> Banned
53:06 <Mekkis_x200> the difference with your lance charge that does 3d6+45 and your lance charge that does 3d8+45 damage is too small to care
53:08 <Wrothmonk> Apparently its to powerfull.
53:16 <Newb> The synthesis archtype is banned?
53:20 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
53:22 <Wrothmonk> In pathfinder society, yes
53:33 <Brunius> People were doing very very silly things with it
53:34 <Newb> huh
53:38 <Newb> what else is banned?
53:44 <Mekkis_x200> vivisectionist
53:59 <Wrothmonk> this: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
53:59 <Mekkis_x200> any gun-using archetype that isn't a gunslinger
54:04 <Wrothmonk> describes what is and isnt banned.
54:15 <Wrothmonk> in pathfinder society
54:28 <Newb> Ha yeah. I saw a build that was alchemist/fighter/monk that used vivisectionist that was pretty powerful
54:48 <Mekkis_x200> rogues SHOULD be banned
54:52 <Mekkis_x200> but they're not
55:03 <Wrothmonk> mekkis, you know full well they have done a small fix.
55:11 <Mekkis_x200> not big enough
55:34 <Wrothmonk> And I thought it wasn't "ban", it was "put under npc classes".
55:40 <Mekkis_x200> yes
56:00 <Newb> What about ragelancepounce? Is that banned?
56:06 <Newb> That seemed really strong too
56:08 <Mekkis_x200> not really
56:12 <Mekkis_x200> but
56:22 <Mekkis_x200> Newb, Please. Forum builds are ALL bad
56:55 <Newb> hahaha thats all I've had to go by so far, and lots of places seemed to talk about it and whine about it
57:12 <Mekkis_x200> (and it's been ruled that you only get the bonus for charging with a lance on the first hit)
57:30 <Mekkis_x200> (as in, you should be building your own character)
59:08 <Newb> I still have no idea what to choose yet haha
59:31 <Wrothmonk> Well, what /kind/ of character do you want to play?
59:48 <Wrothmonk> And dont say evil, thats banned in PFS
59:59 <Newb> Haha nah, not into the evil deal
00:47 <Newb> Hmmm I'm thinking mounted ranger with a drug addiction
01:35 <Mekkis_x200> sure. But as I'd recommend. Don't play a medium mounted character
02:00 <Wrothmonk> Drug addiction would be considered illegal, so you would probably be kicked out of the (RP) society.
02:05 <Newb> Is it really that much of a hinderence?
02:09 <Newb> hindrance*
02:10 <Wrothmonk> Yes
02:16 <Mekkis_x200> drug addiction is fine
02:22 <Wrothmonk> Really?
02:25 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
02:27 <Mekkis_x200> go ahead
02:28 * Wrothmonk shrug
02:34 <Newb> Meh, I like characters with flaws
02:39 <Newb> Makes them more human
02:43 <Wrothmonk> alright, if mekkis says its good, its probably good.
03:00 <Newb> Or more *insert race here* since not everyone is human haha
03:02 <Mekkis_x200> Ulzef has never met a drug he hasn't taken
03:09 <Mekkis_x200> more GNOMISH!
04:15 <Wrothmonk> I just thought of something...
04:28 <Wrothmonk> Frickin' dragons with frickin' gnomes on their backs.
04:37 <Mekkis_x200> I prefer rocs :)
04:50 <Wrothmonk> rocs are expensive.
05:04 <Mekkis_x200> but mine goes faster than the speed of sound!
05:11 <Newb> I thought big mounts were bad
05:16 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
05:33 <Mekkis_x200> but a roc animal companion starts at medium
07:12 <Newb> are beastmorph alchemists allowed?
07:25 <Wrothmonk> beastmorph?
07:35 <Wrothmonk> archetype? or is it something else?
07:42 <Mekkis_x200> probably
07:46 <Newb> archtype
07:55 <Mekkis_x200> are you reading cheapy's cheese?
08:03 <Newb> i was yeah :P
08:59 <Wrothmonk> I believe they are
09:08 <Wrothmonk> from ultimate combat right?
09:22 <Newb> yeah
09:23 <Mekkis_x200> that cheese doesn't actually work in PFS
09:34 <Newb> lets you get fly and pounce and stuff
10:20 <Newb> are goblins good or are halflings and gnomes better?
10:27 <Wrothmonk> goblins are banned
10:30 <Brunius> you can't play a goblin
10:33 <Brunius> Well, not most of the time
10:36 <Mekkis_x200> The reason I like spellcasters is that if you screw them up, you're just prepare different spells and you're fine
10:44 <Mekkis_x200> Newb, goblins are horrible
10:44 <Newb> daw, poor goblins
10:50 <Mekkis_x200> Gnomes are much better
11:06 <Brunius> Ugh
11:13 <Newb> they seem just as good as gnomes and halflings, if not better with the 4 dex instead of 2 dex
11:17 <Newb> are orcs banned too?
11:21 <Wrothmonk> No
11:22 <Brunius> Full orcs, yeah
11:27 <Mekkis_x200> Newb, Stick with the core rulebook
11:28 <Brunius> Half orcs aren't
11:28 <Wrothmonk> ^
11:28 <Mekkis_x200> please
11:56 <Brunius> Yeah safest at this point just to stick with the core rulebook, especially with races
12:14 <Newb> haha ok
12:53 <Newb> so why are gnomes better than little ol flings then?
13:05 <Newb> wouldn't outrider make flings better for mounted stuff?
13:24 <Mekkis_x200> they're the best race
13:26 <Wrothmonk> the alternate racial trait that lets you re-roll a nat one is pretty nice.
13:59 <Mekkis_x200> their flavour is much better
17:48 <Newb> So what are your opinions on what makes the best archer? I've seen lots of discussion about archer vs fighter vs Zen archer
18:03 <Wrothmonk> what is this archer you speak of?
18:21 <Mekkis_x200> Newb, depends
18:26 <Mekkis_x200> I'd suggest fighter
18:29 <Newb> ranger i mean
18:38 <Newb> ranger vs fighter vs zen archer
18:46 <Mekkis_x200> unless you're prepared to do a bunch of math
19:45 <Newb> I mean, I was raised by a high school math teacher so I'm not too bad at it 
19:45 <Newb> haha
19:58 <Mekkis_x200> generally
20:07 <Mekkis_x200> a fighter will do more damage than the ranger
20:15 <Mekkis_x200> except against the ranger's favoured enemies
20:31 <Newb> What about the spell that makes everyone a favored enemy?
20:32 <Mekkis_x200> and just stay away from zen archers
20:37 <Mekkis_x200> what's the spell?
20:43 <Newb> Instant Enemy
20:46 <Newb> 3rd level
20:51 <Mekkis_x200> !spell instant enemy
20:57 <diebot> Mekkis_x200, INSTANT ENEMY enchantment ([]) ranger 3 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature that is not your favored enemy. Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level Save: none SR:no
20:58 <diebot> With this spell you designate the target as your favored enemy for the remainder of its duration. Select one of your favored enemy types. For the duration of the spell, you treat the target as if it were that type of favored enemy for all purposes.
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21:23 <Wrothmonk> If you pick the right favored enemy, you can do that extra damage the majority of the time you play.
22:03 <Mekkis_x200> sure
22:20 <Mekkis_x200> ranger isn't BAD
22:21 <Avatar-> Wrothmonk give up on true sorcery? 
22:35 <Wrothmonk> Yup.
22:38 <Mekkis_x200> and it gives you more skills, which isn't a bad thing
22:49 <Wrothmonk> doesnt seem like anyone besides me and falang are interested.
22:50 <Mekkis_x200> and better reflex saves
23:01 <Avatar-> need to fix the topic 
23:20 <Newb> And an animal companion
23:34 <Mekkis_x200> I could do that, but it would nuke the colours
23:53 <Avatar-> yeah don't do that 
24:13 <Avatar-> you can see the character codes for the colours can't you 
24:29 <Mekkis_x200> no
24:48 <Avatar-> newb: you need to work on a better nickname 
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26:47 <Longshot> So why do you reccommend staying away from Zen Archer, Mekkis?
27:04 <Mekkis_x200> because it's a rules nightmare
27:32 <Longshot> more so than a normal monk?
27:41 <Mekkis_x200> more or less
28:06 <Longshot> I don't think i'd really have fun playing a monk anyways
28:12 <Wrothmonk> more or less more. must be more
28:21 <Mekkis_x200> also, alignment and conduct restrictions
29:01 <Longshot> I like the switchhitter that treatmonk guy put up
29:06 <Longshot> that uses two handed and archery
29:35 <Mekkis_x200> why don't you read the class description rather than someone else's character?
31:03 <Longshot> I've read that too :P I've just read a lot elsewhere as well because i don't want to be the person who comes in and does stupid things because I haven't done homework
32:07 <Mekkis_x200> you get to rebuild your character until you hit 2nd level
34:30 <Wrothmonk> which would be three games
35:00 <Longshot> I'm thinking pure archer I guess
35:18 <Wrothmonk> ranger
35:25 <Wrothmonk> not archer, ranger
35:26 <Mekkis_x200> oh
35:36 <Mekkis_x200> don't multiclass unless you know what you're doing
35:52 <Wrothmonk> rangers can be archers, but they can also do mounted combat, or two weapon fighting
36:00 <Longshot> noo i actually mean archer this time haha. Like specializes in archery.
36:08 <Longshot> Be it a ranger or a fighter.
36:18 <Mekkis_x200> the advantage of ranger (archer) is it's all core
38:10 <Wrothmonk> the dis-advantage is that you could be doing a gunslinger which is VS touch AC not normal AC
38:25 <Longshot> But not as many shots
38:28 <Mekkis_x200> fuck gunslingers
38:34 <Longshot> Only get one per turn with gunslingers yeah?
39:06 <Wrothmonk> wouldnt you get just one shot each round with an archer anyway?
39:13 <Mekkis_x200> Rapid Shot
39:17 <Longshot> rapid shot, manyshot
39:33 <Wrothmonk> I didnt know that...
40:05 <Longshot> rapid shot gives you a auto second attack. manyshot I think counts your first shot as 2 shots
40:07 <Longshot> i think
40:49 <Wrothmonk> !feat rapid shot
40:49 <diebot> Wrothmonk, RAPID SHOT [Combat]Prereq:  Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot.  You can make an additional ranged attack.
40:50 <diebot> Benefit:  When making a full-attack action with a ranged weapon, you can fire one additional time this round. All of your attack rolls take a –2 penalty when using Rapid Shot. Source: Core
41:00 <Wrothmonk> !feat manyshot
41:00 <diebot> Wrothmonk, MANYSHOT [Combat]Prereq:  Dex 17, Point-Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6.  You can fire multiple arrows at a single target.
41:01 <diebot> Benefit:  When making a full-attack action with a bow, your first attack fires two arrows. If the attack hits, both arrows hit. Apply precision-based damage (such as sneak attack) and critical hit damage only once for this attack. Damage bonuses from using a composite bow with a high Strength bonus apply to each arrow, as do other damage bonuses,
41:01 <diebot> such as a ranger's favored enemy bonus. Damage reduction and resistances apply separately to each arrow. Source: Core
42:09 <Longshot> yay i was right
42:28 <Longshot> so thats 4 arrows by level 6
42:37 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
42:49 <Wrothmonk> rapid shot could be used by a gunslinger
42:55 <Wrothmonk> "ranged weapon"
43:10 <Longshot> but most guns only have room for one ammo cartridge at a time right?
43:17 <Longshot> same issue with crossbows i though
43:19 <Longshot> thought*
43:28 <Mekkis_x200> Wrothmonk, say no to guns
43:33 <Wrothmonk> msot guns yes, however you can reduce the action to re-load them
43:45 <Wrothmonk> @mekkis NEVER
43:45 <Mekkis_x200> Wrothmonk, don't complicate thing
43:50 <Mekkis_x200> s
45:04 <Longshot> revolvers could work but they are very expensive
45:11 <Wrothmonk> and banned
45:17 <Wrothmonk> no advanced guns
46:08 <Longshot> So its either a ranger who uses bows even in close combat, or a ranger who uses mounted combat and has a bow for backup
46:57 <Longshot> I think i'm gonna go with bows only. Less things to buy and less complicated.
48:14 <Mekkis_x200> sound good
50:07 <Longshot> So GMs control animal companions right? You just kinda give them orders and hope the gm does nice things with them?
50:19 <Longshot> or do you play as your pet?
50:19 <Wrothmonk> depends on the GM
50:35 <Wrothmonk> but animal companions will for the most part be gm run
50:37 <Mekkis_x200> generally you control it
51:08 <Mekkis_x200> but don't go making it do too much tactics
53:59 <Longshot> Is beastmaster worth it so that you can take better animal companions?
54:04 <Mekkis_x200> maybe
55:10 <Longshot> thats the only way to get a flying mount as a ranger isn't it?
55:20 <Mekkis_x200> perhaps
01:29 <Wrothmonk> I believe you could buy one.
08:02 <Mekkis_x200> depending on how much you want/need an animal companion
08:39 <Mekkis_x200> (keep in mind that as a medium-sized character, getting an animal you can ride as a ranger is hard)
09:21 <Longshot> mostly just horses as tigers i'd think
09:32 <Longshot> until you get a flying mount
09:49 <Mekkis_x200> buy a flying carpet
09:54 <Mekkis_x200> it's less likely to get killed
09:58 <Longshot> and i wouldn't think a flying mount would even be important since I have a bow
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44:19 <Mekkis> Longshot, what race do you have in mind?
49:10 <Longshot> human probably for the extra feat
49:25 <Longshot> but that makes mounted stuff hard as all get out
49:44 <Mekkis> I'd ignore most of the mounted stuff
50:13 <Mekkis> Just concentrate on the archery
51:35 <Longshot> not lancey skirmishy mounted stuff. More like mount can move maximum speed and me still shoot full attack kind of mounted stuff.
52:02 <Mekkis> sure
52:08 <Mekkis> but you don't need feats for that
52:13 <Mekkis> just a decent ride check
52:32 <Mekkis> as long as your mount's moving less than its move speed, you don't take penalties
53:05 <Longshot> thats what i meant though. If im a human, being mounted at all is difficult due to being on a large animal
53:21 <Mekkis> if you go inside, year
53:23 <Mekkis> yeah*
53:40 <Mekkis> but fights aren't that mobile anyway
57:16 <Longshot> is overrunning harder with medium mounts?
57:54 <Mekkis> sorry, I'm trying to remember the last time I've seen an overrun manoeuvre used
58:19 <Mekkis> nope. Drawing a blank
59:09 <Longshot> haha
59:36 <Longshot> Why is that? It doesn't seem like it would be disadvantageous
59:49 <Longshot> especially since ranger mounts can get feats and take improved and greater overrun
59:53 <Mekkis> never comes up
00:23 <Longshot> what does come up? bullrushes? grapples?
00:31 <Mekkis> grapple
00:34 <Mekkis> trip
00:40 <Mekkis> disarm
00:45 <Mekkis> sunder, very occasionally
00:52 <Mekkis> bullrush, occasionally
00:59 <Longshot> speaking of disarming
01:03 <Mekkis> steal and dirty trick only come up when players use it
01:33 <Longshot> thats another character i've always really wanted to play is a dueling, weapon finesse type character
01:39 <Longshot> since I'm a fencer in real life
01:52 <Longshot> but they seem to be very weak
04:18 <Mekkis> when you're fencing, do you ever inflict meaningful damage on your opponent?
04:42 <Longshot> haha nope
04:53 <Mekkis> would you be able to, if you tried?
04:58 <Wrothmonk> There is actually a way to do that...
05:02 <Longshot> yes haha
05:07 <Wrothmonk> the character type I mean
05:11 <Mekkis> how much damage?
05:25 <Longshot> not with a fencing weapon (epee, foil, saber) but i could with a sharpened small sord
05:27 <Longshot> sword*
05:30 <Mekkis> compared to say, getting a bigger sword, holding it in two hands, and swinging really hard?
05:31 <Longshot> or rapier and dagger
06:10 <Mekkis> it's a different stance, hitting with strength than dex
06:50 <Longshot> depends on how much i could dodge haha
07:16 <Longshot> fencing was never intended for armored opponents though
07:24 <Longshot> well, not heavily armored opponents
07:46 <Longshot> heavy rapiers could cut through light armor
08:14 <Mekkis> sure
08:19 <Longshot> but these swords were all designed after guns came around. 
08:24 <Longshot> so not much armor was worn.
08:26 <Mekkis> and a heavy greatsword can cut through a leg.
09:02 <Mekkis> as I understand, finesse-based fighting is a lot of little cuts, until eventually someone passes out from blood loss, right?
09:37 <Longshot> haha, more trying to puncture a lung or major artery
10:17 <Longshot> targets are eyes, neck, chest, and femoral arteries
10:58 <Longshot> which is the big one in your thigh
11:07 <Mekkis> sure
11:17 <Mekkis> so relying on your rapier's 18-20 crit range :)
11:31 <Mekkis> otherwise whittling them down until they die of blood loss
11:32 <Longshot> pretty much haha
11:43 <Longshot> any of those, they'd die pretty quickly haha
11:53 <Mekkis> as you would after a crit
12:27 <Longshot> femoral artery is hit, you pass out from blood loss in about 60 seconds
12:32 <Longshot> dead in 2 or 3
13:02 <Mekkis> sure
13:07 <Mekkis> but 60 seconds is 10 rounds!
13:28 <Longshot> haha thats true
13:41 <Wrothmonk> Pathfinder doesn't really have a bleeding mechanic. Its rather sad to be honest.
14:04 <Wrothmonk> well, besides dying and a few spells
14:10 <Longshot> if you're really physically exerting yourself and your blood is pumping hard, you could pass out in 15-30 seconds
15:04 <Longshot> i think it would be super cool to have a pathfinder campaign based around the whole dueling concept. less armor. lots of nobles and stuff. lots of politics.
15:28 <Mekkis> So do I
15:43 <Mekkis> but unfortunately, I don't have the creativity to do that
15:53 <Mekkis> And noone else has stepped up :(
16:00 <Wrothmonk> And I want a campaign with realistic magic.
16:10 <Wrothmonk> well... relatively speaking
16:13 <Longshot> Realistic magic? Explain.
16:18 <Wrothmonk> However nobody seemed to be interested.
16:26 <Mekkis> I'm interested
16:46 <Mekkis> but I'm not willing to waste my time if you can't codify WHAT you're testing, and WHAT your goals are.
17:41 <Wrothmonk> if you dont like the explanation me and falang gave you, neither of us can come up with a better one.
17:41 <Longshot> I still don't know what you mean realistic magic haha
18:34 <Wrothmonk> Magic as in you can alter it at will. For instance changing a spell that creates a flaming ball of fire into a burst of flame.
18:54 <Longshot> So more like sorcerous type magic
19:01 <Longshot> Instead of actual "spells"
19:02 <Wrothmonk> kinda
19:16 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, from what you've written up, you're talking about using a different sourcebook. You haven't set a benchmark for balance, or discussed what other classes will be like.
19:43 <Longshot> Seems to powerful. Has to be some kind of mechanic where they try and alter a spell, and accidentally alter it into something they did not intend to alter it to.
19:54 <Longshot> Which ends up screwing them over in some way.
19:56 <Mekkis> drawbacks... aren't
19:59 <Wrothmonk> actually the more you alter it the harder it gets to cast it
20:42 <Longshot> Can't you already kinda do that in pathfinder? Like giving up a spell slot for a lower level spell or something?
20:46 <Wrothmonk> And mekkis, the sourcebook will be the normal pathfinder one. just removing all magic stuff and replacing it with a new book.
20:56 <Wrothmonk> Thats just replacing a single spell
21:05 <Wrothmonk> here, take a look at this longshot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/202013/True%20Sorcery.pdf
21:18 <Wrothmonk> thats the rulebook I was planning and using for the magic system
21:20 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, NONE of the pathfinder characters will work without PF magic items after they hit 4th level...
22:17 <Wrothmonk> chapter four mekkis.
22:28 <Longshot> It's just odd to me. Because magic isn't real, so a magic mechanic is just based on the opinions of how magic should work.
22:41 <Longshot> Magic can't be wrong. Because it's 100% made up haha
22:55 <Wrothmonk> You have a good point there longshot.
22:57 <Mekkis> Why not use Authentic Thaumaturgy then?
23:11 <Longshot> So in my mind, the way magic works in pathfinder IS authentic magic. That's how they have to do it because its the only way.
23:15 <Mekkis> that's written by a guy who has a university degree in that stuff!
23:53 <Wrothmonk> Alright alright, so I didnt quite get across what I meant by realistic magic. 
24:23 <Wrothmonk> I probably shouldn't have even used that word.
25:18 <Longshot> On a different subject, there is no way to get critical better than 15-20 is there?
25:24 <Wrothmonk> Anyway, back to chapter four mekkis. It is easy enough to create the magic items and assign prices.
25:37 <Wrothmonk> @Longshot, I'd like to know where you got the 15-20...
25:49 <Longshot> 18-20 with improved critical
25:50 <Mekkis> keen rapier
25:56 <Longshot> or keen
26:02 <Mekkis> not really
26:06 <Wrothmonk> why not both?
26:07 <Wrothmonk> :P
26:22 <Mekkis> they don't stack
26:28 <Wrothmonk> darn
26:39 <Longshot> that would make a duelist much more viable
26:53 <Longshot> you'd be doing 2d6 with a rapier with almost every hit instead of just 1d6
27:05 <Longshot> duel weilding them would be incredible
27:13 <Longshot> although they never really did that in real life
27:17 <Mekkis> (or you could use a greatsword, which always gets 2d6 damage...)
27:32 <Longshot> im trying to make this duelist thing work :P
27:47 <Mekkis> Longshot, you CAN make a finesse character; it's just Very Difficult, and I'd strongly suggest that you learn the system first
27:55 <Wrothmonk> So does that adress your issue with magic items?
27:58 <Mekkis> no
28:11 <Mekkis> my question now is: "Why?"
28:17 <Mekkis> you've just destroyed your benchmark
28:36 <Wrothmonk> How so?
28:45 <Longshot> it seems like you just like the supplement and want to use it tbh :P
29:06 <Mekkis> because if you're trying to see if the new spellcasting system works in pathfinder, you need to be able to compare the "spellcasters" with existing pathfinder characters.
29:26 <Mekkis> By removing all magic items from Pathfinders, you don't have any existing pathfinder characters left
30:29 <Wrothmonk> I was planning on adressing that with moc encounters with sorcerers and wizards using the pathfinder rules.
30:37 <Wrothmonk> addressing*
30:51 <Wrothmonk> mock* 
31:13 <Mekkis> the problem is that in Pathfinder, every character has magic items.
31:30 <Longshot> wouldn't be as fun without them, I would imagine
31:33 <Mekkis> if you remove magic items, you don't have pathfinder any more
31:53 <Longshot> and would make casters that much more important. they already seem to be a bit overpowered as is.
32:09 <Longshot> to make them even more powerful by removing magic items from martial classes
32:13 <Wrothmonk> So you dont care for the magic items mechanic presented in the true sorcery rules?
32:15 <Mekkis> (and seriously, if you're trying to modify the system THAT much, you'd be MUCH better off using a different system)
32:39 <Longshot> yeah my thoughts exactly, it would make it a totally different system
32:44 <Mekkis> what's your goal, anyway?
33:04 <Mekkis> (if it's to make me get out of bed Sunday morning, you'll need to try harder :P )
34:16 <Wrothmonk> Right now, bloody nothing. since apparently everyone either doesn't like the system or is trying to over-analyze what I /was/ trying to do.
34:30 <Wrothmonk> Just drop it now, please.
34:39 <Mekkis> you haven't told us WHAT you're trying to do
34:51 <Wrothmonk> ...
35:55 <Longshot> I think what he's trying to say is that it seems you want to try this just because. To see if you like it and to see if it could be possible. There seems to be no scope beyond that.
36:59 Steven ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
37:05 <Steven> what up bitches
37:13 <Wrothmonk> Fine, since you're not satisfied with the overlying reason I'll give you the straight one. I'm trying to create a homebrew that gives people more freedom than pathfinder that everyone enjoy including my dad so I can actually play a game with him. Since he finds pathfinder to restricting.
37:16 <Wrothmonk> happy?
37:27 <Steven> second death in RotRL Home campaign.
37:32 <Wrothmonk> pathfinder society*
37:56 <Steven> have him join in an adventure path, where its less restrictive..
38:05 <Wrothmonk> @Steven I'm in a argument with mekkis over true sorcery atm, hows it going for you?
38:27 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, more freedom that Pathfinder, or more freedom than PFS?
38:34 <Wrothmonk> thats what I meant
38:43 <Wrothmonk> PFS
39:52 <Longshot> speaking of PFS, do they use traits or are they optional based on the campaign
39:59 <Mekkis> two traits
40:35 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, what's wrong with using an existing rule system, so you can concentrate on the actual game?
41:16 <Wrothmonk> Mekkis, just stop. I'm done talking.
41:38 <Longshot> are there are general traits that are just considered better than the rest?
41:48 <Brunius> I'm creating a completely homebrew system since I don't like one aspect of pathfinder?
42:05 * Wrothmonk glares at Brunius
42:14 <Longshot> look into all the white wolf stuff. its super flexible.
42:57 <Longshot> or at least a different kind of flexible
43:51 <Wrothmonk> @mekkis the reason I didnt use a different core altogether was that I was hoping that if I used something everyone was familiar with more people would be willing to try it.
44:41 <Wrothmonk> is that a good enough answer?
44:52 <Wrothmonk> or do I need to come up with a different one.
45:26 <Mekkis> sure, but you should have come out with that before talking about the whole "testing" thing. More to the point, you should have noticed that Falang is a troll.
46:32 <Longshot> OOH what about a rogue who uses a rapier and uses feints to get his sneak attack bonus?
46:52 <Mekkis> I strongly suggest against rolling up a rogue
47:42 <Hydrazine> Takes too many actions.
48:03 <Longshot> hmm ok
48:38 <Longshot> some type of dueler is undoubtedly going to be my second character though. underpowered or not.
49:16 <Mekkis> sure
52:21 <Ulzef> duelist are not under powered
52:49 <Steven> mekkis we are all trolls.
52:49 <Mekkis> sure, but rogues are
53:12 <Mekkis> And more to the point, Ulzef, I'd say a duelist would need considerable system mastery.
53:14 <Ulzef> full rogue is splash rogue not so much
53:16 <Mekkis> Would you agree?
53:28 <Ulzef> true
53:45 <Ulzef> Ulzef is only op because of the build
53:50 <Mekkis> I have no idea of how Ulzef does it
54:30 <Ulzef> does what
54:33 <Steven> im OP...
54:40 <Steven> over powering cheese
54:40 <Mekkis> does what he does
55:00 <Ulzef> by being awesome 
55:04 <Mekkis> yeah
55:44 <Ulzef> mind you my ranger atm is very meh
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58:12 <Steven> I have a crazy duelist build
58:30 <Steven> never built it though.
58:39 <Steven> cause its crazy
59:40 <Ulzef> really crane style is all you need to make duelist viable
00:01 <Steven> and mekkis would start screaming about how i shouldnt build things like it because im a VO and i need to be playing 'regular' characters to give a good impression
01:53 <Longshot> yeah but that requires taking monk
02:13 <Ulzef> no it doesn't 
02:14 <Mekkis> Ulzef didn't
02:22 <Ulzef> i have it as rogue fighter duelist
02:26 <Longshot> how else do you do it?
02:36 <Ulzef> its bab or monk lvl
02:48 <Longshot> just take improved unarmed as a normal feat?
02:52 <Mekkis> sure
03:14 <Ulzef> thats what i did
03:33 <Mekkis> So, Itzamna's getting a merciful humanbane amulet of mighty fists
03:44 <Brunius> hahahahaha
05:52 <Mekkis> Ulzef, any chance to get the Spirit of Freedom to pick up some crates I have lying around in Rahadoum
06:47 <Mekkis> There are quite a few Pure Legion members who seem to have... gone missing... over there.
12:06 <Ulzef> nice
19:05 <Wrothmonk> "missing", "captured", or "chopped up into tiny pieces"?
20:09 <Mekkis> they never reported back to their posts
20:16 <Mekkis> lazy bastards
22:55 * Mekkis looks around innocently
58:25 <Avatar> yo
58:38 * Avatar removes voice from Brunius
58:47 <Avatar> who's up for some PFS tonight !!!
58:56 <Avatar> 60 minutes remain
59:26 <Wrothmonk> tier and game?
59:33 <Avatar> infernal vault, 1-7
59:59 <Wrothmonk> hrm... let me check, I may or may not have a character that hasnt played that
00:00 <Avatar> did you get an invite
00:17 <Avatar> you don't need one, but you should've gotten one if you haven't played it
01:12 <Avatar> yeah you've marked it off
01:52 <Avatar> I would've run something more appropriate for you if I'd known you were available
02:05 <Wrothmonk> I wasnt sure if I would be, I just happen to be awake.
02:28 <Avatar> good one
02:35 <Wrothmonk> my sleep schedule goes out the window during summer vacation
02:48 <Avatar> when does that end
02:55 <Avatar> I don't know when summer vacation is
03:07 <Wrothmonk> I think its like the end of this month
03:57 <Wrothmonk> that it ends
05:20 <Wrothmonk> oh in case you haven't heard, Rumil died. I still have wallace (lvl 3 ranger) who is close to level 4 though.
05:58 <Avatar> what scenario did he die in
06:12 <Avatar> and what level
07:10 <Longshot> could i join the scenario? you said an hour until it starts?
07:41 <Avatar> 50 minutes now
07:42 <Wrothmonk> the Sanos Abuction, it was uptier and he got hit with two slams one critted.
07:45 <Avatar> have you got a character ready
07:54 <Longshot> not yet, so maybe not
08:01 <Longshot> would probably take more than an hour to make one
08:03 <Avatar> you can use a pregen character
08:11 <Avatar> you can rebuild a character anytime through level 1
08:45 <Longshot> so basically twice since 3 encounters is a level up?
08:57 <Avatar> well, three times
09:03 <Avatar> anytime before you play your first level 2 game
09:12 <Longshot> this would be my first time ever playing just so you are aware
09:21 <Avatar> have you played d&d
10:03 <Longshot> negative. but i've read up as much as i could. maybe it would be more beneficial if i just watched this encounter and joined in next time?
10:21 <Avatar> no watching never works
10:26 <Avatar> you need to play
10:36 <Avatar> how did you find out about us
10:51 <Longshot> google
10:53 <Longshot> haha
11:05 <Longshot> no one around my town to play with so tried to find a place to play online
11:12 <Avatar> what did you search for
11:26 <Longshot> "play pathfinder online"
11:34 <Avatar> yeah so you knew a bit about pathfinder
11:40 <Avatar> what's your history
12:02 <Longshot> like i said, have the books, have read them. read up on builds on forums and the like, and thats about it.
12:33 <Avatar> just interested in tabletop gaming and heard pathfinder was one of them?
12:57 <Longshot> yeah
13:04 <Longshot> I play 40k
13:04 <Avatar> love your work
13:13 <Avatar> got an idea of what class you want to play?
13:16 <Longshot> yes
13:18 <Longshot> ranger
13:23 <Longshot> ranged specialist
13:24 <Longshot> human
13:54 <Avatar> what's your username on skype
13:57 Proquar ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
13:59 <Longshot> kodybrown815
14:12 <Proquar> look who it is!
14:23 <Avatar> don't you accept invites anymore
15:00 <Proquar> i have to wait to see if i can play
15:39 <Avatar> you are about to run out of slots
15:39 <Proquar> (true, i usually accept 2-3 hours before... but this week has been insane)
15:39 <Avatar> looking for any excuse not to play I think !
15:39 <Proquar> pfft
15:48 <Avatar> as long as the other 4 who accepted show up, you two will want to accept your slot before the game
15:57 <Avatar> what's on the schedule overrides who shows up first
16:18 <Proquar> ta da
16:30 <Avatar> Longshot: there's a chance they'll want to subtier 3-4
16:37 <Avatar> which means you'll need to use a level 4 pregen instead of level 1
16:39 <Proquar> ja ja - i knew that
16:46 <Avatar> and there's no level 4 pregen for ranger, so you'd need a new class if that happens
16:54 <Longshot> but then i can't rebuild as well, correct?
17:02 <Avatar> you can
17:16 <Wrothmonk> you cant apply the credit until your character is of the appropriate tier
17:16 * Proquar hasn't done anything to Tabina
17:20 * Proquar sighs deeply
17:29 <Avatar> you apply credit like that when you get to level 4 OR you can apply it as level 1 credit, taking 500gp instead of the 3000 odd gp you'd normally get
17:41 <Proquar> the poor girl is level 2... and what does she have to show for it
17:52 <Proquar> she survived a tier 3-4 (i think)
17:59 <Avatar> if you apply it when you get to level 4, if you die before then, the level 4 credit that you haven't put onto your real character yet dies with it
18:26 <Longshot> credit? I'm confused..
18:38 <Avatar> xp, gp and prestige rewards
18:46 <Avatar> you get "paid" for being a pathfinder
19:02 <Avatar> after every mission everyone gets the same amount of gold
19:11 <Avatar> what did everyone tell you all day today
19:16 <Avatar> everything except how to play
19:23 <Longshot> haha
19:33 <Longshot> mostly just helped me decide on what character to make, really
19:44 <Longshot> joining the pathfinder society as we speak
19:48 <Avatar> then where is your character !
20:26 <Wrothmonk> hrm... looks like I could bring a 2 magus, a 2 summoner, or a 3 two weapon fighting ranger.
20:35 <Wrothmonk> for once I dont actually have a level 1!
20:37 <Longshot> I have to register it
20:46 <Avatar> are you playing wrothmonk
21:09 <Wrothmonk> if you dont mind, I will step out if somebody else wants in.
21:15 <Longshot> Whats all this faction business?
21:23 <Avatar> just pick one that sounds good
21:26 <Avatar> do you have the PFS guide
21:32 <Longshot> no..
21:33 <Avatar> Wrothmonk: the site says you've played it before
21:44 <Wrothmonk> Yeah I know I wont get credit.
21:47 <Avatar> Longshot: go to www.pfrpg.com.au and click getting started
22:02 <Avatar> you can't play if you're not getting credit, we're not that desperate for players
22:12 <Wrothmonk> Oh, sorry
22:23 <Avatar> tell me in advance and I'll cater a scenario to you
26:40 <Longshot> I've read the quick synopsis' on the faction and still can't pick one
26:56 <Wrothmonk> what would your character pick?
27:09 <Longshot> no idea
27:22 <Longshot> probably the one about personal gain
27:46 <Avatar> oh you know what, lantern lodge or shadow lodge make good choices
28:04 <Avatar> there are some sweet bonuses between now and mid-august if you play a particular scenario or two
28:16 <Avatar> but, oh, go with what your heart tells you
28:20 <Wrothmonk> and if you cant decide now, you get to decide in august
28:30 <Longshot> he's going to be the fourth son of a noble. so no hopes to the throne or any other position of status or even land really and makes up for feeling so excluded by using drugs and going out big game hunting alot with friends.
28:43 <Avatar> yeah you have to change away from either of those two in mid august
31:37 <Avatar> get this too:
31:39 <Avatar> ?ca
31:40 <diebot> Avatar, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
31:58 <Longshot> yeah i already downloaded that
32:19 <Longshot> i like the andoran trait that gives me no penalties in the second range increment from my bow
32:29 <Longshot> but i doubt i'll ever be shooting from that far away anyways
32:48 <Wrothmonk> whats the range on your bow?
33:18 <Longshot> whatever the range on a composite longbow is
33:22 <Longshot> 110 if i remember correctly
33:26 <Avatar> you never will
33:28 <Avatar> pick something else
33:32 <Avatar> you will regret that choice
34:02 <Wrothmonk> what is your str?
34:02 <Avatar> reactionary or accelerated drinker are good easy choices
34:12 <Avatar> +2 to init, or drink as a move action respectively
34:20 <Longshot> reactionary sounds nice
34:25 <Longshot> what faction is that?
34:30 <Avatar> it's not a faction trait
34:43 <Longshot> oh got it
34:47 <Longshot> maybe qadira?
34:47 <Avatar> I think it's a basic(combat) trait
34:58 <Longshot> he could be a smuggler or something
34:59 <Avatar> don't worry too much about faction now, you can change it in your rebuild
37:48 <Longshot> wait so how do i actually make my character..?
38:06 <Avatar> have you got the PFS guide
38:15 <Mekkis> is it bad how obsessive I am when it comes to driving for maximum fuel efficiency?
38:21 <Longshot> yes, but where do i submit the character and whatnot?
38:28 <Steven> yes.  it is.
38:46 <Longshot> because right now im on the paio website and it seems im making a character right now purely for posting in the forums
39:13 <Avatar> all you need from paizo.com is a pathfinder society number
39:23 <Avatar> make your character on pfrpg.com.au
39:25 <Mekkis> I've been achieving 5l/100km for city driving
39:35 <Avatar> have you registered an account on pfrpg
39:52 <Avatar> guys why didn't any of you tell longshot about this today
40:01 <Avatar> instead of me having to rush him in the last hour
40:19 <Longshot> haha its fine, i just won't play this one
40:26 <Longshot> and it's because i never asked
40:27 <Proquar> mekkis!
40:32 <Avatar> you're a newbie, you don't have to ask
40:33 <Wrothmonk> Actually I'm fairly certain mekkis linked the guide
40:37 <Mekkis> he didn't ask
40:38 <Avatar> we have done this for years, it's SOP
40:42 <Mekkis> proquar! 
40:43 <Wrothmonk> and I told him about the website.
40:44 <Avatar> they should know better
40:53 <Avatar> mekkis I'm looking at you
40:59 <Longshot> he did link the guide actually
41:08 <Mekkis> no you're not
41:09 <Longshot> i've just not been as proactive as i needed to be
41:21 <Avatar> you can still play
41:28 <Avatar> it'd just be better if you did this 6 hours ago
41:30 <Mekkis> how are you proquar?
41:34 <Longshot> what campaign should i choose on the drop down menu when creating my character?
41:39 <Proquar> good... busy....
41:40 <Mekkis> pfs
41:49 <Avatar> pathfinder society
42:06 <Mekkis> what's your opinion of my driving style?
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45:47 <Longshot> I think my stats are going to be 14 16 12 10 13 10 with the human bonus in  dex for 18
46:15 <Mekkis> reasonable 
46:21 <Mekkis> seems good, actually 
46:26 <Avatar> yeah
46:30 <Avatar> are you sure this is your first time
46:41 <Longshot> haha yes
46:47 <Longshot> i've just done my research :P
46:58 <Proquar> i've lost tabina
47:07 <Avatar> how do you lose tabina if she's on the site
47:25 <Mekkis> he's read a bunch of Character Optimisation threads
47:26 <Mekkis> !findchar tabina
47:30 <Proquar> you know i'm a paper'n'pen girl, right?
47:31 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: tabina, number: ( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char= )
47:36 <Avatar> we're playing online
47:44 <Avatar> I want to audit your sheet
47:44 <Mekkis> !findchar Tabina
47:45 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Tabina, number: 704( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=704 )
47:54 <Avatar> what are you going to do, fax it to me
48:00 <Mekkis> !history 704
48:01 <Proquar> yay!
48:01 <diebot> Mekkis, r101 | vpsirc | 2013-03-24 00:24:40 -0400 (Sun, 24 Mar 2013) | 1 line
48:03 <Proquar> can we??!
48:06 <Avatar> no
48:09 <Proquar> and real plastic dice!?
48:12 * Proquar swoons
48:17 <Avatar> seriously you need a sheet proquar
48:25 <Mekkis> nope, Proquar will mail it!
48:34 <Avatar> the mail won't arrive in 10 minutes
48:35 <Mekkis> like I mail chronicles 
48:42 <Proquar> i'll have you know, i can fax
48:50 <Avatar> I don't have a fax machine
48:51 <Proquar> i have a sheet on pfr
48:54 <Avatar> can you scan it
48:57 <Proquar> me neither!
48:59 <Avatar> what is pfr
49:00 <Mekkis> I'll use a TELEGRAM!
49:35 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@edbe9bcc.us
49:35 Avatar has kicked anonymity from #d&d (bye)
49:47 <Proquar> PIGEON!
49:58 <Mekkis> that's it. My next character sheet will be typewritten
50:02 <Proquar> so, pfrpg
50:10 * Proquar highfives Mekkis
50:16 <Avatar> seriously proquar do you have a sheet
50:26 <Proquar> i'm working on it
50:49 <Proquar> i have a wand of cure light wounds with 46 charges (or do i have to buy one each session)?
50:56 <Proquar> it's very confusing
50:58 <Avatar> you keep the one you have
50:58 <Longshot> hey, dm, what should i choose as my favored enemy?
51:04 <Avatar> it's up to you
51:06 <Mekkis> Pigeon FReight PaGination 
51:12 <Mekkis> pfrpg
51:14 <Wrothmonk> I'd reccomend undead humonoid
51:14 <Avatar> humanoid (humans) maybe
51:32 <Wrothmonk> Undead seem to be pretty common in my experiance
51:34 <Proquar> where do i note the charges?
51:34 <Avatar> it doesn't matter, I'm killing you all today
51:37 <Wrothmonk> little more than humans. 
51:42 <Longshot> hmm are goblins common?
51:44 <Avatar> next to the item
51:47 <Wrothmonk> no
51:50 <Proquar> why doesn't the sheet calculate the bab, etc
52:00 <Avatar> click calculate and autofill
52:18 <Avatar> if it doesn't work, you've done something wrong somewhere, probably in the class recorder
52:26 <Mekkis> longshot, I would agree that Human is mechanically the best, but it just makes a human look like a psychopath :)
52:47 <Avatar> it doesn't make the human look like a psychopath if goes to war with humans a lot
52:48 <Wrothmonk> which is precisely the reason why I chose undead for my ranger
52:52 <Longshot> haha, he hunts his own kind
52:54 <Avatar> which pathfinders tend to do
53:27 <Mekkis> which is why I make my rangers elvish supremesists
54:15 <Proquar> can you see the char sheet?
54:25 <Avatar> click save
54:28 <Mekkis> actually, Berknet is a slavecatcher
54:59 <Longshot> when using wands of spells you can cast, you don't need use magic device right?
55:03 <Proquar> i've done that
55:12 <Wrothmonk> correct
55:18 <Proquar> ok, i have to mess with the veggies
55:22 <Avatar> yeah I see it
55:28 <Avatar> you have no skill ranks
55:30 <Wrothmonk> and it doesnt have to be spells you can cast, its spells that are in your spell list
55:34 <Avatar> or feats
55:44 <Longshot> also the sheet isn't autocalculating the +3 for class skills
55:48 <Longshot> how do i do that manually?
55:50 <Wrothmonk> as in, a sorcerer could use a wand of infernal healing at level 1
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56:57 <Avatar> everyone who's playing, pm me your PFS NUMBER and FACTION
57:01 <Mekkis> yes
57:03 <Avatar> and change your nickname to your character
57:17 <Wrothmonk> Arduino? as in, the computer?
57:23 <Arduino> Yup
57:28 <Wrothmonk> awesome.
57:35 Longshot is now known as Krillic
58:08 <Arduino> Nicktest
58:10 <Proquar> what did i play last time
58:12 Avatar gives voice to Arduino Ballig Krillic Proquar
58:27 <Avatar> Krillic: did you accept me on skype
58:36 <Krillic> not yet, opening skype now
59:01 <Krillic> i don't know if i can finish this character in 2 minutes though..
59:12 <Krillic> accepted
59:18 <Arduino> I need to spend 5 minutes getting dinner soon, happy to wait
59:31 <Krillic> i don't have the paid skype where i can skype with more than one person at once though
59:54 <Krillic> whats the magical knack trait?
00:05 <Arduino> +2 to caster level, up to a maximum of character level.
00:09 <Wrothmonk> ??? I dont pay and I could do a conference call myself.
00:10 <Arduino> Handy for multi-classing casters.
00:18 <Wrothmonk> also handy for rangers
00:20 <Avatar> Krillic: unless you're very nearly finished, you'll have to use the pregen
00:21 <Wrothmonk> since they get spells later on
00:48 <Wrothmonk> and their caster level is reduced by -3 without it.
01:06 <Krillic> I've mostly got just equipment left it looks like
01:13 <Wrothmonk> anyway, time to go, have a good game. And avatar, try not to kill the newbie.
01:17 <Ballig> are we playing now
01:18 <Mekkis> not that they really care about CL
01:20 <Avatar> the newbie is going first
01:33 <Avatar> yeah we're playing
01:36 <Avatar> change nickname, message me
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01:45 Proquar is now known as tabina
01:48 <Krillic> what is a trait that makes will save better?
01:57 <Arduino> Birthmark, I seem to recall
02:20 Ballig is now known as Vor`Daru
02:41 <Steven> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
02:51 <Arduino> Indomintable faith- +1 to will saves.
02:58 <Vor`Daru> what levels do we have
03:07 <tabina> can you hear me?
03:35 <Arduino> Arduino the Lesser, level 2 sorcerer.
03:50 <Vor`Daru> what level are you Krillic?
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07:17 <Arduino> Nicktest
08:22 Avatar gives voice to Arduino
08:34 <Arduino> Is there time for me to dash to dinner? Won't take more than five minutes.
10:16 * Steven sighs heavily obviously very bored. Almost like he wishes he could play but can't because of a policy...
11:09 <Avatar> Venture-Captain Drandle Dreng’s pinched face is hard to see from behind the stack of books that divide the front of his office from the space behind his desk. A shockingly old man with white hair and slightly milky eyes, he is surprised by the appearance of outsiders in his office, and looks up, half startled and half relieved.
11:09 <Avatar> “Thank you for coming on such short notice. I’d been meaning to give this assignment to you at a later date, and with less pressing time constraints, but it seems that time has conspired against us.” Dreng mumbles to himself as he passes out a stack of notes and maps from behind the wall of books. “These notes are from a recent Chronicle—it contains some interesting finds, but one of 
11:09 <Avatar> them is now the utmost priority to the Society.”
11:09 <Avatar> Dreng lightly taps a bony finger on a map, on which can be seen a section of Absalom with a small corner townhouse circled in deep red.
11:09 <Avatar> “This townhouse is a façade for an underground vault. The vault belonged to an old noble family of Absalom that was expelled a decade ago—the Decklands. The family was forced out when their patriarch—a man known as Orias—was discovered to have written documents detailing the city’s defenses, documents he intended to hand over to hostile forces loyal to Cheliax. The Chronicle indicates 
11:09 <Avatar> that a copy of these documents exist within the vault.
12:15 <Avatar> “A Pathfinder looking into the Decklands and their Chronicle references in Cheliax was attacked and killed ten days ago. The thugs made off with a copy of his notes—fortunately, he’d already sent us another. We have reason to believe it was the work of the Decklands’ oldest child, a young woman named Celeena, and she’s the reason this assignment is now urgent. The fact that Celeena and 
12:16 <Avatar> her forces were willing to kill a Pathfinder for this information shows how desperate they are to retrieve the documents. If she were able to get these documents and return them to Cheliax, it would undermine the defenses of the whole city, as well as cause the Society undue headaches.
12:20 <Avatar> Find Celeena, find the documents in her vault, and prevent this situation from turning into one big mess for the Society.”
13:03 <Avatar> “The agents in Cheliax report that Celeena hired mercenaries from the Devil’s Claw Company, a mercenary organization of failed Hellknights.”
14:14 <Avatar> Krillic human ranger 1
14:19 <tabina> dwarven fighter
14:22 <Vor`Daru> human druid 2
14:24 <Arduino> Arduino human sorcerer 2
16:20 <Avatar> “There’s not much that can be said about the vault. It was reportedly used to store a portion of the family’s wealth and was ingeniously trapped when the Decklands fled Absalom. The family archives, where the documents should be stored, should be right next to the family crypt in the lower levels.”
16:24 <tabina> how much would a magical dwarven axe cost?
17:04 <Avatar> 2000gp for the +1 enchantment
17:07 <Avatar> 300gp for the masterwork
17:09 <Avatar> plus the cost of the axe
18:38 <tabina> ok, let's go
19:42 <tabina> why would it say -3 for acrobatics on my sheet?
19:54 <Avatar> dex
19:59 <Avatar> armor check penalty
22:13 <tabina> the latter, i think
22:14 <Vor`Daru> !find Vor'Daru
22:28 <Vor`Daru> !find VorDaru
22:28 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, no results found. Give me a few minutes to update my database.
25:37 <Avatar> 124.148.147.185
26:14 <Vor`Daru> orange
26:16 <tabina> green
26:18 <tabina> dark
26:22 <Krillic> red
26:26 <Vor`Daru> HP 17 AC 15
27:00 <Arduino> back
27:48 <Krillic> HP 13 AC 16
28:52 <Arduino> http://www.walkingwithdinosaurs.com/suploads/dinosaur-details/dinosaur_spinosaurus/dino-large.png
30:44 <Avatar> Sitting on the corner of a quiet street, the red brick Deckland townhouse melds in with the middle class  buildings in this portion of Absalom. A small, flickering candle can be seen through a barred window on the  building’s west side and a single door can be seen on the building’s south face.
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31:17 <Bloodlust> hello hello
31:33 <Avatar> you're late
31:39 <Bloodlust> I'm so sorry guys, my car is right now being repaired - I had to catch two trains and a bus and run a lot just to get here
32:01 <Avatar> jump on skype
32:06 <Avatar> and change your nick, pm me your details
32:10 <Bloodlust> Sorry, totally out of my control :(
32:17 Bloodlust is now known as Samuel
32:25 Avatar gives voice to Samuel
34:08 <Arduino> Hey, what's the command to change your nick?
34:28 <Vor`Daru> /nick
34:31 <Arduino> cheers
34:35 <Avatar> it's /nick (newnickname)
34:58 Arduino is now known as Arduino_the_Lesser
36:54 <Avatar> 124.148.147.185
38:12 <Vor`Daru> I open the door
39:11 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
39:11 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=10] 18
39:18 <tabina> !roll 1d20
39:18 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20: [1d20=17] 17
39:20 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20 Perception
39:20 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Perception: [1d20=13] 13
39:44 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 Perception
39:44 <dicebot> Krillic, Perception: [1d20=19] 19
39:53 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9 Perception
39:53 <dicebot> Samuel, Perception: [1d20=2] 11
40:06 <Krillic> total is 24
40:46 <Vor`Daru> I guess I won't open it if it's trapped
41:01 <Vor`Daru> I'll stand back a bit
41:18 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9 Disable Device
41:18 <dicebot> Samuel, Disable Device: [1d20=6] 15
41:40 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+6 stealth
41:41 <dicebot> Krillic, stealth: [1d20=18] 24
46:56 <Vor`Daru> I walk in
46:58 <Vor`Daru> and wait for others to follow
47:10 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 stealth
47:11 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, stealth: [1d20=17] 19
47:23 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+6 stealth
47:23 <dicebot> Krillic, stealth: [1d20=16] 22
48:16 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5 Stealth
48:16 <dicebot> Samuel, Stealth: [1d20=20] 25
49:20 <Vor`Daru> I attack
49:36 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7 stealth
49:37 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, stealth: [1d20=20] 27
50:10 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5 Initiative
50:11 <dicebot> Samuel, Initiative: [1d20=20] 25
50:11 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2 init
50:11 <dicebot> tabina, init: [1d20=20] 22
50:12 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Initiative
50:12 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Initiative: [1d20=14] 16
50:13 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 V init; 1d20+2 B init
50:13 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, V init: [1d20=8] 10; B init: [1d20=16] 18
50:19 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+3 init
50:19 <dicebot> Krillic, init: [1d20=9] 12
52:12 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Kin
52:13 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Kin: [1d20=14] 16
52:56 <tabina> this is more curiosity than anything, but what level are we playing at?
53:02 <Vor`Daru> 3-4
53:05 <tabina> ty
53:07 <Avatar> SURPRISE ROUND
53:11 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
54:07 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
54:11 <Vor`Daru> smackin' him
54:23 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+5 q-staff
54:23 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, q-staff: [1d20=16] 21
54:31 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d6+4 damage
54:31 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, damage: [1d6=6] 10
54:51 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
55:00 <Vor`Daru> Bitey will bite
55:03 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+3 p-attack
55:04 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, p-attack: [1d20=12] 15
55:19 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
56:21 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+14 Bluff
56:21 <dicebot> Samuel, Bluff: [1d20=17] 31
57:08 <Arduino_the_Lesser> Deceive Someone: Attempting to deceive someone takes at least 1 round, but can possibly take longer if the lie is elaborate (as determined by the GM on a case-by-case basis).
57:36 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
58:18 <Samuel> Will that default to an intimidation then?  To shake them?
58:34 <Samuel> Based on a the most bluff roll.
58:40 <Samuel> *monster bluff roll
58:44 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 attack
58:44 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=10] 10
59:00 <Avatar> ROUND 1
59:04 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
00:29 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+6 B00M
00:29 <dicebot> Samuel, B00M: [1d20=15] 21
00:40 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
01:11 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=1] 2
01:23 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+6 B00M
01:24 <dicebot> Samuel, B00M: [1d20=9] 15
01:42 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
01:43 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=4] 5
01:57 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
02:13 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
02:13 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=17] 25
02:14 <Vor`Daru> damn
05:04 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
05:22 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
05:22 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=18] 22
05:49 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
06:14 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 attack
06:14 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=10] 10
07:26 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
08:07 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
08:12 <Vor`Daru> I'll cast guidance on Bitey
08:19 <Vor`Daru> and take a 5 foot step east
08:47 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
09:00 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
09:03 <Avatar> ROUND TWO
09:10 <Arduino_the_Lesser> Oh and Kin is a she.
09:35 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
09:44 <Samuel> Reading an action to shoot anything that moves across line 7.
10:12 <Samuel> Who does Number two work for?!?!
10:31 <Samuel> *readying, not reading (reading them the frickin riot act)
11:06 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
11:14 <Vor`Daru> step north and west
11:20 <Vor`Daru> and bite #1
11:22 <Vor`Daru> using guidance
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11:29 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+5 bite
11:29 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=10] 15
11:36 <Vor`Daru> end turn
11:37 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
13:15 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 attack
13:16 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=15] 15
14:30 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9 B00M
14:30 <dicebot> Samuel, B00M: [1d20=18] 27
14:39 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
14:39 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=5] 6
16:08 <Avatar> Bitey takes 4 damage
16:12 <Vor`Daru> 15/19
16:14 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
16:37 <Samuel> brb
17:13 <Samuel> back
18:05 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
18:16 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
18:22 <Avatar> (Kin delays)
18:45 <Vor`Daru> I'll guidance on Krillic
18:52 <Vor`Daru> end turn
18:52 <Avatar> !spell guidance
18:53 <diebot> Avatar, GUIDANCE divination ([]) cleric 0, druid 0, summoner 0, witch 0, inquisitor 0, summoner 0, witch 0, inquisitor 0 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute or until discharged Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes
18:53 <diebot> This spell imbues the subject with a touch of divine guidance. The creature gets a +1 competence bonus on a single attack roll, saving throw, or skill check. It must choose to use the bonus before making the roll to which it applies.
19:06 <Avatar> ROUND 3
19:09 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
19:34 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
19:34 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=18] 22
19:47 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
19:48 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=1] 2
19:59 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
19:59 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=6] 10
20:20 <Avatar> <?daze
20:25 <Vor`Daru> !spell daze
20:26 <diebot> Vor`Daru, DAZE enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) bard 0, sorcerer/wizard 0, witch 0, summoner 0, inquisitor 0, magus 0 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one humanoid creature of 4 HD or less Comp: V, S, M (a pinch of wool or similar substance) Duration: 1 round Save: Will negates SR:yes
20:26 <diebot> This spell clouds the mind of a humanoid creature with 4 or fewer Hit Dice so that it takes no actions. Humanoids of 5 or more HD are not affected. A dazed subject is not stunned, so attackers get no special advantage against it. After a creature has been dazed by this spell, it is immune to the effects of this spell for 1 minute.
20:42 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
21:26 <Samuel> Are they looking reasonably injured?
21:49 <Samuel> I critted twice in the game the other night - it was frickin glorious.  One was in the last fight :)
22:55 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
23:00 <Avatar> (Tabina delays)
23:01 <Vor`Daru> attack #1
23:04 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
23:05 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=17] 21
23:12 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d6+1 damage; 1d20+4 trip
23:12 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, damage: [1d6=2] 3; trip: [1d20=6] 10
23:43 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7 acrobat
23:44 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, acrobat: [1d20=1] 8
24:39 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
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26:41 <Samuel> Valeros??
26:45 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 attack
26:45 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=4] 4
27:01 <Avatar> it's Tabina
27:17 <Avatar> Tabina swings at #1
27:24 <tabina> !roll 1d20+6
27:25 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+6: [1d20=2] 8
28:23 <Avatar> Bitey takes 7 damage
28:24 <Vor`Daru> 8/19
28:30 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
29:29 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
29:54 <Vor`Daru> I'll go west and south
29:57 <Vor`Daru> and guidance on Tabina
30:07 <Avatar> ROUND 4
30:13 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
30:16 <tabina> what does guidance do?
30:25 <Vor`Daru> +1 to a skill or attack roll
30:26 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
30:26 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=14] 18
30:35 <tabina> cool
30:35 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
30:35 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=1] 2
30:40 <Arduino_the_Lesser> only a single attack roll and then the spell is expended.
30:42 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
30:42 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=17] 21
30:50 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
30:50 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=2] 3
31:02 <tabina> so glad we crit'd on our stealth checks
31:12 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
31:27 <Vor`Daru> Bitey will attack #1
31:36 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+5 bite
31:37 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=2] 7
31:41 <Vor`Daru> and 5ft southwest
31:53 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
32:39 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 attack
32:39 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=4] 4
33:04 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
33:26 <tabina> !roll 1d20+7
33:26 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+7: [1d20=7] 14
34:12 <Vor`Daru> 0/19
34:18 <Avatar> Bitey takes 8 damage
36:01 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
36:25 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
36:36 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
36:53 <Vor`Daru> guidance on Tabina!
37:15 <Avatar> ROUND 5
37:20 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
37:27 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
37:27 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=4] 8
37:33 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
37:33 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=12] 16
37:40 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
37:41 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=5] 6
38:04 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
38:09 <Vor`Daru> Bitey will bite!
38:12 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
38:13 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=12] 16
38:18 <Vor`Daru> and then begin dying
38:26 <Vor`Daru> -1/19
38:27 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
38:53 <Krillic> !roll 1d20-4
38:53 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20-4: [1d20=9] 5
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39:46 <Krillic> !roll 1d20 perception
39:46 <dicebot> Krillic, perception: [1d20=15] 15
40:42 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
40:58 <tabina> !roll 1d20+7
40:59 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+7: [1d20=15] 22
41:22 <tabina> !roll 1d10+3
41:23 <dicebot> tabina, 1d10+3: [1d10=8] 11
42:20 <Avatar> Tabina takes 3 damage
42:38 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
42:41 <Vor`Daru> !find Tabina
42:41 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=704
43:36 <Avatar> 1 is dazed
43:49 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
44:18 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
44:30 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+6 Acrobatics
44:30 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Acrobatics: [1d20=10] 16
44:51 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+6
44:52 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, 1d20+6: [1d20=10] 16
45:11 <Vor`Daru> guidance on Tabina!
45:12 <Vor`Daru> wheeeee!
45:19 <Avatar> ROUND 6
45:20 <tabina> yay!
45:21 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
45:43 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4 Frickin B00M!
45:43 <dicebot> Samuel, Frickin B00M!: [1d20=4] 8
45:46 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4 Frickin B00M!
45:46 <dicebot> Samuel, Frickin B00M!: [1d20=11] 15
46:01 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1 Big badda boom
46:01 <dicebot> Samuel, Big badda boom: [1d12=6] 7
46:23 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
46:26 <Avatar> 1d20+con+hp
46:34 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+1 stabilize
46:34 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, stabilize: [1d20=1] 2
46:37 <Vor`Daru> -2/19
46:50 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
47:34 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 trapcheck
47:35 <dicebot> Krillic, trapcheck: [1d20=7] 12
47:55 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
48:10 <tabina> !roll 1d20+7
48:10 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+7: [1d20=20] 27
48:26 <tabina> !roll 1d20+7
48:26 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+7: [1d20=13] 20
48:50 <tabina> !roll 3d10+9
48:51 <dicebot> tabina, 3d10+9: [3d10=2,5,2] 18
49:13 <Vor`Daru> I stabilize Bitey
49:29 <Vor`Daru> then I'll use my wand on him
49:44 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
49:44 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=7] 8
49:49 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
49:50 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=7] 8
49:55 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
49:55 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=2] 3
50:00 <Vor`Daru> bitey 17/19
50:31 <Vor`Daru> what do they have on them
50:32 <Vor`Daru> I loot them
51:41 <Vor`Daru> I put my hand on Samuel's shoulder and cast guidance, then exit the room
52:30 <Arduino_the_Lesser> I scratch under Kin's neck and look at the manacled guard. "Your name, your profession, and your reason for being here. Or i'll let darling Kin here EAT YOU."
53:16 <Vor`Daru> brb
54:47 <Arduino_the_Lesser> Arduino nods enthusiastically and comments "What he said."
54:48 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+10 Diplomacy
54:49 <dicebot> Samuel, Diplomacy: [1d20=2] 12
56:23 * Samuel pulls out some cions
56:26 <Samuel> *coins
58:09 <tabina> can you use a wand?
59:25 <Avatar> back in a sec
01:07 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina's wand
01:11 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina's wand: [1d8=6] 7
01:27 <Avatar> "Sanke"
02:46 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
02:47 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=14] 22
02:52 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 percep
02:53 <dicebot> Krillic, percep: [1d20=13] 18
02:55 <tabina> !roll 1d20 perception
02:55 <dicebot> tabina, perception: [1d20=9] 9
02:58 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9 Perception
02:58 <dicebot> Samuel, Perception: [1d20=15] 24
02:59 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20
02:59 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, 1d20: [1d20=20] 20
08:19 <Vor`Daru> a large stone mosaic of stone?
08:21 <Vor`Daru> that's crazy talk
08:38 <Avatar> This small, stuffy square room was cut from the building’s stone foundation. The room’s east wall features a  large stone mosaic of stone that shows several faceless people worshipping at the top, and others being  condemned at the bottom, with no figures in the middle pattern. The mosaic contains a set of three identical  circular indentations: one set within the top section, one in the empty 
08:39 <Avatar> center, and another set within the  bottom section. Illuminating the room are two lit torches in sconces on the north and south walls.
08:45 <Vor`Daru> I cast detect magic
08:56 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20 Perception
08:56 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Perception: [1d20=2] 2
09:48 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 perception
09:49 <dicebot> Krillic, perception: [1d20=7] 12
09:54 <Vor`Daru> I cast detect puzzle
10:20 <Vor`Daru> I take a torch from the sconce
10:24 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
10:25 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=19] 27
10:27 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9 Perception
10:27 <dicebot> Samuel, Perception: [1d20=5] 14
10:53 * Samuel uses his ioun torch
11:07 <Vor`Daru> devil on the bottom, city in the middle, child on the top
11:37 <Vor`Daru> I go down the stairs
11:42 <Krillic> me too
11:46 <Vor`Daru> me too
11:55 <tabina> why is our druid tanking?
11:59 <tabina> oh, because of bitey
12:00 <Vor`Daru> me and bitey at the front
12:01 <tabina> fair enough
12:21 <Krillic> AC 16
12:22 <tabina> good point
12:39 * tabina heads down
13:49 <Vor`Daru> I cast detect magic
14:10 <Avatar> This room is split by a long, ten-foot-wide stone walkway, extending sixty feet east to west between two  spiral staircases. Two ladders rest on the north side of the walkway and two more on the south, leading down  into a fifteen-foot-wide trench twenty feet below. These sub-rooms are filled with objects ranging from  decrepit suits of rusted armor, to piles of rotting furs, and to various 
14:10 <Avatar> over-stuffed footlockers.
15:39 <Avatar> <?detect magic
15:44 <Avatar> !spell detect magic
15:45 <diebot> Avatar, DETECT MAGIC divination ([]) bard 0, cleric 0, druid 0, sorcerer/wizard 0, summoner 0, witch 0, inquisitor 0, magus 0 1 standard action Range: 60 ft.  Comp: V, S Duration: concentration, up to 1 min./level Save: none SR:no
15:45 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/detect_magic.html
16:57 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 perception
16:57 <dicebot> Krillic, perception: [1d20=9] 14
17:03 <Vor`Daru> "Might be something invisible in here."
17:06 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
17:07 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=8] 16
19:06 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 perception
19:06 <dicebot> Krillic, perception: [1d20=15] 20
19:59 <tabina> !roll 1d20+3
19:59 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+3: [1d20=13] 16
20:39 <tabina> !roll 1d20 perc
20:39 <dicebot> tabina, perc: [1d20=14] 14
23:02 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5
23:02 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+5: [1d20=3] 8
23:08 <tabina> !roll 1d20
23:08 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20: [1d20=16] 16
26:56 <Vor`Daru> "On 3. Ready?"
27:02 <Vor`Daru> "One. Two. Three!"
27:05 <Vor`Daru> and I pull the lever on 3
27:25 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
27:26 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=15] 23
27:44 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7 acrobatics
27:45 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, acrobatics: [1d20=12] 19
27:51 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+6 Acrobatics
27:52 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Acrobatics: [1d20=9] 15
28:37 <Vor`Daru> I detect magic on it
30:47 Steven has quit (Quit: )
31:00 <tabina> i've got rope
31:48 <Vor`Daru> "One. Two. Three!"
32:42 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Arduino Initiative
32:43 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Arduino Initiative: [1d20=14] 16
32:43 <tabina> for flag burning?
32:44 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 init V; 1d20+2 init B
32:44 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, init V: [1d20=18] 20; init B: [1d20=8] 10
32:48 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Kin Initiative
32:48 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Kin Initiative: [1d20=5] 7
32:50 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2 init
32:50 <dicebot> tabina, init: [1d20=19] 21
32:56 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+3 init
32:56 <dicebot> Krillic, init: [1d20=6] 9
32:58 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5 Samuel leaps into action (Init)
32:58 <tabina> she's fast today
32:58 <dicebot> Samuel, Samuel leaps into action (Init): [1d20=9] 14
34:21 <Vor`Daru> Tabina, Vor`Daru, Arduino, Samuel, Bitey, Krillic, Kin
36:38 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Fort
36:38 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Fort: [1d20=17] 19
37:44 <Avatar> Arduino takes 1 damage
37:47 <Avatar> Krillic takes 2 damage
37:50 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4 fort
37:51 <dicebot> Krillic, fort: [1d20=12] 16
37:58 <Avatar> ROUND 1
38:00 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
38:08 <Krillic> 11/13
40:04 <tabina> !roll 1d20+3
40:04 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+3: [1d20=20] 23
42:13 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
42:26 <Vor`Daru> I'll cast shillalegh
42:41 <Vor`Daru> 25 east, 5 northeast
43:17 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
44:20 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
45:04 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+3
45:04 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+3: [1d20=8] 11
45:10 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+3
45:10 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+3: [1d20=16] 19
45:24 <Samuel> !roll 1d12 cold iron
45:24 <dicebot> Samuel, cold iron: [1d12=3] 3
47:21 <tabina> grrr
48:21 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
49:21 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
49:54 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4 attack
49:55 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=20] 24
50:01 <Samuel> I hit it with my axe!
50:16 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4 crit confirm
50:16 <dicebot> Krillic, crit confirm: [1d20=14] 18
50:25 <tabina> hang on, if they were flying, couldn't i've shot a short bow above arduino
50:33 <tabina> ?
50:37 <Samuel> nope
50:57 <Krillic> !roll 3d8+4
50:58 <dicebot> Krillic, 3d8+4: [3d8=4,8,4] 20
51:23 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
51:27 <tabina> that's why you're a gunslinger... eh?
51:32 <tabina> to say "chick chick boom"
52:17 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
53:14 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
53:26 <Vor`Daru> southeast and two east, ready an action to attack it if it becomes visible
53:36 <tabina> i'm readying an action to hit the fiend if i can see it within 5' of me
53:45 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
53:56 <tabina> war axe
54:34 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
54:36 * Samuel readies his musket while crouching behind some barrels.  If I see it, I shoot it with a silver shot.
54:57 <Arduino_the_Lesser> https://sites.google.com/site/pathfinderogc/_/rsrc/1307999913833/extras/community-creations/broven-s-lab/file-cabinet/Cone60h.png
56:11 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+3
56:11 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+3: [1d20=1] 4
56:45 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
56:55 <Vor`Daru> Bitey delays
57:22 <Avatar> it's Killic's turn
57:34 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4 attack
57:34 <dicebot> Krillic, attack: [1d20=8] 12
58:36 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
59:30 * Samuel spends his next turn clearing his musket.
00:15 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+6 Acrobatics
00:15 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Acrobatics: [1d20=16] 22
00:39 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
01:20 <tabina> !roll 1d20+3
01:20 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+3: [1d20=7] 10
01:37 <tabina> !roll 1d20+3
01:37 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+3: [1d20=20] 23
01:43 <tabina> done
01:47 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
02:00 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7
02:00 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, 1d20+7: [1d20=10] 17
02:01 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7
02:01 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, 1d20+7: [1d20=13] 20
02:48 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+7 acrobatics
02:48 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, acrobatics: [1d20=18] 25
03:06 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
03:14 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
04:26 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Acrobatics
04:27 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Acrobatics: [1d20=2] 4
04:41 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
05:46 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
05:57 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
07:02 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+2
07:02 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+2: [1d20=16] 18
07:12 <Avatar> you're 15ft high
07:16 <Avatar> you're 5ft to the top
07:27 <Krillic> 1d20+2 climb
07:34 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+2 climb
07:34 <dicebot> Krillic, climb: [1d20=18] 20
08:03 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
08:30 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
08:48 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+5 Perception
08:48 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Perception: [1d20=4] 9
10:09 <Avatar> it's Vor'Daru's turn
10:11 <tabina> Ready an action to shoot the imp with my short bow when it becomes visible
10:20 <Vor`Daru> 5ft northwest, ready to attack it if it appears within reach
10:34 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
10:35 <Vor`Daru> Bitey will 5ft east and do the same ready
10:37 <tabina> i wouldn't mind if they had reckful aim
10:39 <Vor`Daru> or attack if he can scent it
10:54 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
11:14 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Acrobatics
11:14 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Acrobatics: [1d20=7] 9
11:51 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2
11:52 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, 1d20+2: [1d20=8] 10
12:09 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
12:30 <Samuel> Ready an action to shoot if it becomes visible
13:04 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9
13:05 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+9: [1d20=17] 26
13:13 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1 Silver
13:13 <dicebot> Samuel, Silver: [1d12=2] 3
13:15 <tabina> !roll 1d20+4
13:15 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+4: [1d20=7] 11
13:54 <Avatar> Samuel takes 1 damage
13:59 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5
14:00 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+5: [1d20=5] 10
14:21 <Avatar> Samuel takes 2 dex damage
14:32 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
15:32 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5 Reroll on fort (trait)
15:32 <dicebot> Samuel, Reroll on fort (trait): [1d20=10] 15
15:39 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
16:00 <Krillic> readied action: attack with axe if pops up in range
16:31 <Samuel> So does 15 make it?
16:51 <Avatar> you don't know
17:14 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
17:33 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+13 Handle Animal
17:33 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Handle Animal: [1d20=8] 21
18:34 <tabina> ready an action to hit it with an axe if it appears in range
18:43 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
19:45 <Vor`Daru> ready attack
19:49 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
19:53 <Vor`Daru> 5ft east, ready attack
20:06 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
20:19 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 acrobatics
20:20 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, acrobatics: [1d20=8] 10
20:32 <tabina> it's gone very quiet
20:36 <Avatar> you're dropping out
20:45 * tabina sniffs sadly
20:51 <tabina> there i am!
23:03 <Samuel> !roll 1d20-1
23:04 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20-1: [1d20=13] 12
23:50 <Samuel> !roll 1d20-1
23:51 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20-1: [1d20=6] 5
24:06 <tabina> just is good enough
24:06 <tabina> :D
25:03 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20 Arduino Perception
25:03 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Arduino Perception: [1d20=14] 14
25:08 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+5 Kin perception
25:08 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Kin perception: [1d20=13] 18
28:00 <Krillic> perception check to see if anyone is in the room
28:26 <tabina> !roll perception 1d20
28:26 <dicebot> tabina, perception 1d20: [perception 1d20=1] 1
28:29 <tabina> oops
30:45 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 handle
30:45 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, handle: [1d20=2] 10
32:05 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+4
32:05 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+4: [1d20=19] 23
32:14 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1 Silver
32:14 <dicebot> Samuel, Silver: [1d12=1] 2
32:33 <Avatar> Arduino takes 4 damage
32:39 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Fort
32:39 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Fort: [1d20=8] 10
32:58 <Avatar> Arduino takes 2 dex damage
33:30 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
33:58 <tabina> wish i was there to see that
34:57 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
35:37 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
36:31 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d6+7
36:31 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, 1d6+7: [1d6=5] 12
36:35 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 2d4+14
36:35 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, 2d4+14: [2d4=3,2] 19
40:06 <Samuel> Let the Wookie Win
40:45 <Avatar> This long hallway stretches sixt y feet east to west between two spiral staircases. The walls of this hall contain deep notches and cuts at five-foot intervals, and a lever lies in the down position beside the western staircase. Skeletal remains litter the floor, and among them rests the recently slain corpse of an elf, his arms torn off and several feet from the body.
41:08 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Arduino Init
41:08 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Arduino Init: [1d20=16] 18
41:09 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 init V; 1d20+2 init B
41:10 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, init V: [1d20=19] 21; init B: [1d20=17] 19
41:10 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Kin Init
41:11 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Kin Init: [1d20=17] 19
41:11 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+3 init
41:11 <dicebot> Krillic, init: [1d20=20] 23
41:13 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2 init
41:13 <dicebot> tabina, init: [1d20=10] 12
41:13 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5 init
41:13 <dicebot> Samuel, init: [1d20=10] 15
42:17 <Arduino_the_Lesser> !roll 1d20+2 Kin Init
42:17 <dicebot> Arduino_the_Lesser, Kin Init: [1d20=4] 6
42:25 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 bitey reroll
42:25 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bitey reroll: [1d20=1] 3
44:08 <Vor`Daru> Krillic, Vor'Daru, Kin, Bitey, Samuel, Tabina
44:28 <Vor`Daru> Krillic, Vor'Daru, Kin, Bitey, Arduino, Samuel, Tabina
44:41 <tabina> hate being last
45:35 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
46:01 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5 traps
46:01 <dicebot> Krillic, traps: [1d20=16] 21
46:14 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
46:41 <Vor`Daru> delay
47:07 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
47:08 <Vor`Daru> delay
48:09 <tabina> can't we vote on what he does?
48:17 <Avatar> he drops and total defences
48:22 <Avatar> it's Arduino's turn
50:13 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
50:58 <Vor`Daru> "I think something is down there?"
51:19 <tabina> here here!
51:50 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
52:15 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
53:32 <Samuel> There is 35 feet between me and an empty square - my mov eis only 30 feet
53:34 <tabina> !roll 1d20+4
53:34 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+4: [1d20=18] 22
53:37 <Samuel> I can't move up 
53:56 <Samuel> Sorry, now it's 40 feet
53:57 <Avatar> 22 misses
54:23 * tabina sighs deeply
54:24 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
54:47 <tabina> !roll 1d20 perc
54:48 <dicebot> tabina, perc: [1d20=3] 3
55:49 <Samuel> If it's a standard arrow trap it has to roll to hit - therefore, folks with highest AC have the best chance
57:14 <Avatar> Krillic gets hit for 2 damage
57:33 <Krillic> 9/13
57:43 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
57:56 <Samuel> drop prone at the end of your action so I can shoot over you
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59:26 <Arduino> Can I get the Combat Assistant IP address again? My net died.
59:46 ChanOP gives voice to Arduino
00:27 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 trick
00:27 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, trick: [1d20=7] 15
00:35 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
00:43 <Avatar> 124.148.147.185
01:26 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
04:44 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 bite
04:44 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=10] 18
06:10 <Vor`Daru> 7/19
06:16 <Avatar> Bitey takes 10 damage
06:35 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
09:22 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+13 Handle Animal
09:22 <dicebot> Arduino, Handle Animal: [1d20=19] 32
09:56 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
10:48 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
10:58 <tabina> ready an action to hit anything nasty that comes down the stairs
11:14 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4
11:15 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
11:24 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
11:52 <Vor`Daru> use wand on Bitey
11:55 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
11:55 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=1] 2
11:59 <Vor`Daru> 9/19
12:43 <Vor`Daru> Bitey delays
13:40 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
14:45 <Samuel> !roll 1d20
14:45 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20: [1d20=8] 8
14:48 <Samuel> !roll 1d20
14:49 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20: [1d20=8] 8
14:53 <Avatar> it's Kin's turn
16:05 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
16:39 <tabina> !roll 1d20 per
16:39 <dicebot> tabina, per: [1d20=4] 4
16:52 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
17:04 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4
17:04 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+4: [1d20=16] 20
17:28 <Krillic> !roll 1d8+4
17:28 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d8+4: [1d8=3] 7
18:13 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
18:36 <Vor`Daru> wand Bitey
18:39 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
18:39 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=8] 9
18:46 <Vor`Daru> 18/19
18:48 <Vor`Daru> go prone !
19:07 <Vor`Daru> I'll say "Down"
19:20 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 handle
19:21 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, handle: [1d20=5] 13
20:20 <Avatar> Krillic takes 4 damage
20:46 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
21:14 <Krillic> 5/13
22:08 <Samuel> !roll 1d20
22:08 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20: [1d20=3] 3
22:13 <Samuel> !roll 1d20
22:14 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20: [1d20=7] 7
22:18 <Avatar> it's Kin/Arduino's turn
22:39 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
24:25 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+13
24:25 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+13: [1d20=8] 21
25:26 <Samuel> He would pass the handle animal check if he had the come trick - which he should
25:43 <Arduino> Yep I'm still right- he CAN know 6 tricks, but I haven't taught him any.
25:52 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
26:09 <Krillic> swinging my sword
26:15 <Avatar> roll to hit
26:18 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4
26:19 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+4: [1d20=16] 20
26:38 <Krillic> !roll 1d8+4
26:38 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d8+4: [1d8=6] 10
27:09 <Arduino> This is only the second scenario I've played with Arduino having an animal companion; I've rebuilt him twice.
27:16 <Vor`Daru> detect magic + spellcraft on the potions
27:28 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+5 spellcraft
27:28 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, spellcraft: [1d20=9] 14
27:43 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+4 Spellcraft
27:44 <dicebot> Arduino, Spellcraft: [1d20=7] 11
28:13 <Samuel> yup, but when you get a new animal companion (as in when the one you have dies or you dismiss it) you have to train them from scratch - otherwise, if that first one (re-write irrelevant) then he comes with all tricks (up to 7) known.
28:36 <Arduino> Where is the rule saying that?
28:38 <Arduino> Guide to organized play?
28:45 <Samuel> animal compaions
28:48 <Samuel> *companions
29:44 <Krillic> so im at 19 AC with -3 armor check
29:54 <Vor`Daru> with 20ft movement
30:01 <Arduino> Searching through the Animal Companion page for 'trick', found nothing...
30:10 <Krillic> I also just realized I've been swinging that axe one handed
30:12 <Krillic> with no shield
31:01 <Krillic> So if I rebuild, how does loot come into play or whatever
31:22 <tabina> what does "SQ" stand for?
31:23 <Arduino> sell what you've bought for full price, add up all the loot you've earned.
32:35 <Vor`Daru> special qualities
33:31 <Krillic> ok, I'll probably still have to have someone talk me through it once we get there
33:33 <Arduino> Samuel? I can't find any rule saying that animal companions start with tricks beyond their bonus tricks. Help?
34:52 <Samuel> I'm looking
35:00 <Samuel> I thought that too but I was corrected
35:39 <Vor`Daru> the reason is likely because you don't start off fresh-faced. you've had time to train your animal before your first scenario
35:48 <Vor`Daru> which is why pregen druids have animal companions with tricks
36:52 <Arduino> Makes sense, but can you point me to any rule or FAQ saying so?
37:11 <Krillic> im cooking breakfast, but im still attentive
38:09 <Arduino> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lwas?PFS-Rules-for-Animal-Companion-Tricks-are-Broken
38:20 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
38:21 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=7] 8
38:59 <tabina> F*
39:01 <tabina> F8
39:46 <Avatar> A perpetual thick gray fog covers the floor of this ancient stone room to a height of six inches. Four alcoves extend from a small circular center. The north and south alcoves are lined with ceremonial slabs on which rest skeletal bodies garbed in old finery, the west alcove contains a spiral staircase that winds down from the room, and the east alcove contains only a simply wooden door in the 
39:47 <Avatar> east wall.
40:08 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+2 init V; 1d20+2 init B
40:08 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, init V: [1d20=19] 21; init B: [1d20=10] 12
40:09 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+3
40:10 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+3: [1d20=5] 8
40:10 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+2 Arduino init
40:10 <dicebot> Arduino, Arduino init: [1d20=14] 16
40:12 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+5
40:12 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
40:13 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+2 Kin init
40:14 <dicebot> Arduino, Kin init: [1d20=15] 17
40:16 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2 init
40:16 <dicebot> tabina, init: [1d20=17] 19
41:58 <tabina> "Hey! Don't attack... We can deal"
43:12 <Vor`Daru> "What's this job worth to you?"
43:46 <tabina> there is nothing subtle about Tabina's axe, but she's not about to swing
44:46 <tabina> "That, or 20gp?"
48:01 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
48:01 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=15] 23
48:06 <tabina> !roll 1d20 perc
48:07 <dicebot> tabina, perc: [1d20=12] 12
48:07 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+9
48:07 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+9: [1d20=16] 25
48:28 <Arduino> !roll 1d20 Arduino Percep
48:28 <dicebot> Arduino, Arduino Percep: [1d20=8] 8
48:32 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5 Kin Percep
48:33 <dicebot> Arduino, Kin Percep: [1d20=2] 7
48:34 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5
48:35 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+5: [1d20=4] 9
51:48 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
52:19 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
52:19 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=10] 18
52:22 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
52:23 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=9] 17
52:28 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
52:29 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=6] 7
52:30 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
52:30 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=7] 8
53:01 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
53:16 <Vor`Daru> I cast shillelagh
53:21 <Vor`Daru> on my quarterstaff
53:26 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
53:39 <Vor`Daru> and I command "Defend"
53:43 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 handle
53:43 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, handle: [1d20=2] 10
53:47 <Vor`Daru> end turn
55:42 <tabina> !roll 1d20+4
55:42 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+4: [1d20=11] 15
59:04 <tabina> is swapping weapons a move action?
59:22 <Avatar> it's Kin/Arduino's turn
59:55 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+13
59:56 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+13: [1d20=14] 27
00:39 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5
00:46 <Arduino> !roll 1d6+7
01:11 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+5: [1d20=8] 13
01:11 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d6+7: [1d6=6] 13
01:57 <Avatar> Kin takes 4 damage
02:29 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
03:00 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
03:00 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=2] 6
03:04 <Vor`Daru> end turn
03:23 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
03:41 <Avatar> Krillic takes 5 damage
03:42 <Krillic> 8/13
04:53 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+4 to hit
04:53 <dicebot> Krillic, to hit: [1d20=17] 21
05:08 <Krillic> !roll 1d8+6
05:08 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d8+6: [1d8=1] 7
05:37 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
06:42 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
06:42 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=14] 22
06:48 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
06:48 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=12] 20
07:09 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
07:09 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=5] 6
07:13 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
07:13 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=11] 12
07:42 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
07:49 <Vor`Daru> two east
07:50 <Vor`Daru> attack #4
08:02 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+5 hit
08:03 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, hit: [1d20=7] 12
08:19 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
08:49 <Avatar> Tabina takes 11 damage
10:30 <tabina> !roll 1d20+6
10:31 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+6: [1d20=6] 12
14:02 <Vor`Daru> 3/19
14:03 <Avatar> Bitey takes 6 damage
14:27 <Avatar> it's Kin/Arduino's turn
14:31 <Samuel> HEALING folks
15:02 <Vor`Daru> none of us are exactly dedicated healers man
15:05 <Avatar> !spell enlarge person
15:05 <diebot> Avatar, ENLARGE PERSON transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 1, alchemist 1, summoner 1, witch 1, magus 1 1 round Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one humanoid creature Comp: V, S, M (powdered iron) Duration: 1 min./level Save: Fortitude negates SR:yes
15:05 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/enlarge_person.html
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17:47 <Avatar> #2 falls
17:49 <Avatar> #4 stays up
17:51 <Avatar> #7 stays up
17:58 <Arduino> !dice 1d20+5
18:00 <Arduino> !dice 1d20+5
18:08 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5
18:08 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+5: [1d20=7] 12
18:11 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5
18:11 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+5: [1d20=19] 24
18:13 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5
18:13 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+5: [1d20=3] 8
18:56 <Arduino> !roll 1d6+8
18:57 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d6+8: [1d6=2] 10
19:30 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5 Ref save
19:30 <dicebot> Arduino, Ref save: [1d20=15] 20
19:34 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2
19:34 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+2: [1d20=16] 18
19:52 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5
19:52 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+5: [1d20=7] 12
20:13 <Krillic> 6/13
20:16 <Avatar> Tabina, Killic and Kin take 2 damage
21:08 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
21:16 <Vor`Daru> 2/19
21:16 <Avatar> Bitey takes 1 damage
21:31 <Vor`Daru> he'll attack #4
21:41 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
21:41 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=2] 6
22:08 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
22:23 <Samuel> did bitey take an action?
22:36 <Samuel> oh yeah, I see it :)
23:07 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+6
23:08 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+6: [1d20=14] 20
23:18 <Krillic> !roll 1d8+6
23:18 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d8+6: [1d8=5] 11
23:45 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
24:48 <Avatar> Vor'daru takes 4 damage
24:55 <Vor`Daru> 13/17
25:24 <Vor`Daru> 5ft south and wand on Tabina
25:32 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
25:32 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=8] 9
25:43 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
26:08 <Avatar> Tabina takes 6 damage
26:44 <tabina> !roll 1d20+6
26:45 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+6: [1d20=7] 13
27:19 <tabina> !roll 1d10+3
27:20 <dicebot> tabina, 1d10+3: [1d10=6] 9
27:41 <tabina> !roll 1d20+3
27:41 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+3: [1d20=8] 11
28:08 <Avatar> Tabina takes 6 damage
28:31 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
29:13 <Vor`Daru> <?squeezing
29:42 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
29:42 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=7] 15
29:50 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
29:50 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=1] 2
30:05 <tabina> at least you hit
31:29 <Avatar> Tabina takes 11 damage
32:42 <Samuel> Just out of interest, if you'd have cast that enlarge person on me, my bullets would be doing 3d6
33:04 <Arduino> You'd have -2 to hit and couldn't head up those stairs.
33:08 <Avatar> Krillic takes 5 damage
33:17 <Arduino> And bullets don't increase from enlarge person as they say
33:22 <Krillic> 1/6
33:23 <Samuel> no such thing as "large" bullets
33:24 <Krillic> 1/13
33:32 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
34:02 <Vor`Daru> southwest and wand Tabina
34:08 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
34:08 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=3] 4
34:57 <Vor`Daru> "Down!"
35:02 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 trick
35:02 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, trick: [1d20=1] 9
35:15 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
35:26 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
36:16 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
36:16 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=9] 17
36:21 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+8
36:21 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d20+8: [1d20=13] 21
36:40 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
36:41 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=9] 10
36:49 <Samuel> !roll 1d12+1
36:49 <dicebot> Samuel, 1d12+1: [1d12=6] 7
37:41 <tabina> !roll 1d20+2
37:41 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20+2: [1d20=4] 6
37:47 <tabina> !roll 1d20
37:47 <dicebot> tabina, 1d20: [1d20=9] 9
37:51 <tabina> doesn't matter
37:55 <Avatar> Tabina takes 4 damage
39:00 <Avatar> it's Kin/Arduino's turn
41:06 <Arduino> !dice 1d20+5
41:12 <Arduino> !roll 1d20+5
41:12 <dicebot> Arduino, 1d20+5: [1d20=1] 6
41:31 <Avatar> it's Krillic's turn
41:57 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+6
41:58 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+6: [1d20=3] 9
42:16 <Avatar> it's Bitey's turn
42:41 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 bite
42:42 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, bite: [1d20=17] 21
42:49 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+4 trip
42:49 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, trip: [1d20=11] 15
43:04 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d6+1 damage
43:05 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, damage: [1d6=5] 6
43:33 <Vor`Daru> wand Tabina
43:35 <Avatar> it's Vor'daru's turn
43:37 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand
43:37 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand: [1d8=6] 7
43:46 <Vor`Daru> "Down!"
43:49 * tabina is awake
43:49 <Avatar> it's Tabina's turn
43:51 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 handle
43:51 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, handle: [1d20=12] 20
43:57 <tabina> 1
46:30 <Avatar> it's Samuel's turn
47:21 <Vor`Daru> !rand loot answers
47:22 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, random: loot
47:24 <Arduino> Arduino dismisses the spell on Kin and kicks away the northern guard's weapon.
48:00 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina's wand
48:00 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina's wand: [1d8=4] 5
48:05 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina's wand
48:06 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina's wand: [1d8=1] 2
48:09 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina's wand
48:09 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina's wand: [1d8=3] 4
48:16 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20-1 diplomacy
48:16 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, diplomacy: [1d20=8] 7
48:53 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina's wand
48:53 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina's wand: [1d8=8] 9
49:05 <Avatar> "It's just Celeena."
49:08 <Samuel> !roll 1d20+10 Diplomacy (on my own)
49:09 <dicebot> Samuel, Diplomacy (on my own): [1d20=5] 15
49:11 <Avatar> "She's a bit obsessed eh"
54:03 <Krillic> !roll 1d20+5
54:03 <dicebot> Krillic, 1d20+5: [1d20=17] 22
54:07 <tabina> !roll 1d20 perc
54:08 <dicebot> tabina, perc: [1d20=20] 20
54:18 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d20+8 perception
54:18 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, perception: [1d20=11] 19
54:20 <tabina> looking around the room
54:23 <Arduino> My spell use
54:41 <Arduino> My spell use: Color spray versus the Imp, Color spray versus one guard here, Enlarge Person on Kin, Grease here
54:45 <Arduino> have I forgotten anything?
54:54 <Krillic> not besides cantrips
55:16 <tabina> documents?
57:49 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand Bitey
57:49 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand Bitey: [1d8=1] 2
57:51 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand Bitey
57:51 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand Bitey: [1d8=8] 9
58:06 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand Bitey
58:06 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand Bitey: [1d8=5] 6
58:25 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand krillic
58:26 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand krillic: [1d8=8] 9
58:47 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 Tabina wand kin
58:48 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, Tabina wand kin: [1d8=4] 5
59:18 <Vor`Daru> !roll 1d8+1 wand self
59:19 <dicebot> Vor`Daru, wand self: [1d8=7] 8
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