// #d&d — 2013-06-21
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00:08:11 <Mekkis> Steven, review http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pvlo?Request-for-comment-Document-on-Daylight instead.
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01:31:26 <TheWyrm> Tet test
01:32:38 <TheWyrm> So... I'm looking for some feedback on some loot rules for a D&D game,: http://pastebin.com/mCc261Ps
01:39:13 <Yiroep> At work, TL;DR, but the way we do it is we divide it into 5 parts when we sell anything, each players gets an equal part (We have 4 players) and a "pool" to get stuff like raise dead and resurrection, or stuff we think the whole party should have.
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01:43:08 <TheWyrm> That's in there, 10% of liquidated treasure goes to a party fund.
01:43:16 <TheWyrm> Think it should be higher?
01:47:14 <Yiroep> Do you have tons of problems with players and loot at your games?
01:48:57 <TheWyrm> Not tons of problems, but there have been problems over the many campaigns and this is to make sure there aren't more. I'm a player in this game, my game has 'the party is working for an organization' which occasionally straight-up pays them in gold, with rather little 'loot'
01:50:13 <Yiroep> I just know I would get lost in all the rules of this.
01:50:22 <Yiroep> I have enough trouble keeping track of my stuff at all.
01:52:10 <TheWyrm> Really? Seems pretty simple to me. Lays out the basis in first few rules, and the rest is contingencies.
01:54:10 <Yiroep> I guess....Our party just gives loot to who needs it most combat-wise (not loot or wealth wise) and splits up the liquid assets, but I guess it's because we play together all the time and don't have any problems with arguments.
01:55:05 <Yiroep> I know my necromancer oracle gets a LOT of treasure so that she can give it to her undead, lol. But it's for the good of the party (and the undead have saved our butt more than once).
01:55:15 <Yiroep> No one seems to mind.
01:57:43 <TheWyrm> Well we don't have problems with arguments either, but we're also a group that likes this sort of thing planned out ahead of time.
01:57:50 <TheWyrm> Because we want to spend as little game time on loot as possible.
01:58:26 <TheWyrm> So the more clear the process is, the faster it can go. We don't want to spend half an hour dividing up the treasure from a dragon's hoard, because that's a half hour we could be spending finding another treasure hoard :)
01:58:40 <Yiroep> My opinion...if it works for you, go for it!
01:59:25 <TheWyrm> Also for reference this group is a bit older than most groups. I'm in my 30s.
01:59:52 <Yiroep> Well, I'm the youngest of my group at 27, oldest is 39, other 3 are inbetween.
02:00:51 <Yiroep> Shattered Star btw is awesome.*
02:00:56 <Yiroep> *(If you like dungeon crawls at all)
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02:18:21 <Rhyvyn> anyone from the PFS game alive?
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07:35:34 <Avatar> zzz
08:54:31 <Steven> ugh.... chest isn't happy
09:03:51 <Goya> You sick?
09:04:39 <Steven> no
09:04:51 <Steven> have asthma
09:04:58 <Goya> *nods*
09:05:08 <Steven> all the flowers are blooming
09:05:12 <Goya> It's definitely that time of year.
09:05:16 <Steven> totes sucks
09:05:18 <Goya> I bet
09:05:48 <Goya> You're going to PaizoCon in two weeks aren't you?
09:08:35 <Brunius> ugh...boring math is boring
09:09:10 <Steven> yup
09:09:33 <Steven> then im going to gencon in a month and two weeks
09:10:14 <Goya> Nice!
09:10:50 <Goya> I got last minute tickets for PaizoCon - though I'm not going to GenCon.. ;)
09:11:20 <Steven> kick ass man
09:11:28 <Steven> Then i'll see you there
09:11:50 <Goya> *nods* I'll be one of the lost noobs wandering around. ;)
09:13:15 <Steven> you should go sign up for events, today is the last day you can
09:13:19 <Goya> Trying to figure out any last minute books I might need.
09:13:47 <Goya> Event signup is closed (at 2pm). I got what I could - but I'm level 1 - so I didn't have much choice left. Got a full schedule though.
09:13:58 <Steven> cool
09:14:15 <Goya> You DM'ing or playing (or both)?
09:14:21 <Steven> DMing
09:14:55 <Goya> Nice!
09:15:33 <Steven> teir 1 judge
09:15:35 <Steven> what up
09:15:46 <Goya> Tier 1 judge?
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09:24:40 <Steven> im gming a lot
09:27:00 <Goya> Hehe.
09:35:46 <Steven> also get some sweet boons as well.
09:36:08 <Goya> Nice bonus. =)
09:36:53 <Steven> and 10 paizo bucks per slot
09:39:26 <Goya> Even better!
09:40:29 <Steven> yup all i gotta deal with is convention goers and a sore throat
09:41:00 <Steven> alright, i gotta get ready to GM some RotRL
09:41:18 <Goya> *nods* See ya =)
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10:44:10 <Steven> alright down at the shop
10:47:43 <Goya> Game start at 6?
10:49:29 <Steven> theres a game tonight on here?
10:50:43 <Goya> No - I thought you were DMing?
10:51:04 <Steven> yeah, tonight, rotrl at my flgs
10:51:12 <Goya> *nods*
10:51:47 <Goya> I assume your game starts at 6. =)
10:52:16 <Steven> who knows.
10:52:23 <Steven> sometimes they are super late
10:52:55 <Goya> Doh..
11:05:03 <Steven> its okay
11:05:10 <Steven> i have dutch caramel waffle cookies
11:05:22 <Steven> so im content to wait and not have to share
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11:31:48 <Steven> well its definently not a 6pm start time, doesnt look like a 630 start time either
11:36:40 <Goya> You're pretty darn patient.
11:46:01 <Steven> well, as i said...
11:46:05 <Steven> dutch caramel waffle cookies
11:46:08 <Steven> i drew the maps
11:46:21 <Goya> Cookies do sound good right about now..
11:48:46 <Steven> i suggest the waffle cookies
11:48:46 <Steven> so good
11:58:41 <Goya> Erm. Since I've never played PFS - when I show up - I assume I bring my newbie char sheet and dive in? Then just carry that from table to table?
11:59:35 <Goya> I played D&D for years way back when - but I've yet to actually *play* PFS.. Beyond registering a char on Paizo's website.
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13:12:26 <Longshot> hello all
13:13:24 <Goya> Cheers
13:17:57 <Brunius|M> Sup
13:18:24 <Brunius|M> I think I just more or less accidentally split the party into three parts
13:18:42 <Brunius|M> Consisting of 2/4/3 people
13:20:23 <Longshot> huh?
13:20:32 <Longshot> are you playing a game?
13:21:19 <Brunius|M> I'm running a game irl, where pretty much all my friends suddenly decided they wanted to play pathfinder
13:21:28 <Brunius|M> So we've got a group of like 10 people
13:22:03 <Longshot> thats too many for one game me think
13:22:05 <Longshot> should have made them split into 5 and 5
13:22:54 <Brunius|M> I deliberately split the two off with a trap
13:23:09 <Brunius|M> But then the seven decided to split...
13:25:48 <Goya> Hopefully they don't split any further...
13:26:55 <Mekkis> kill them all
13:29:32 <Longshot> have a derrow cast darkness and sneak attack them all into oblivion
13:29:46 <Mekkis> dark stalker is better
13:30:08 <Longshot> isn't dark stalker high CR?
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14:18:00 <Brunius|M-> Sup
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14:18:17 <Brunius|M-> Well..
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14:50:31 <Mekkis> poor mort
15:29:15 <Ceybur> Heya Mekkis we are back. :-)
15:29:22 Ceybur is now known as Blasticka
15:30:03 <Blasticka> Any chance you have those chronicle sheets available for Ceybur and Rokura?
15:45:17 <Mekkis> not a chance at the moment. I've been really busy. When do you need them by?
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16:00:03 <Blasticka> sorry wife is sick had to tend to her
16:00:25 <Blasticka> ummm, not super urgent we don't get to play in saturday or sundays game they are full
16:00:41 <Blasticka> when would be convenient for you?
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16:03:06 <Steven> almost wiped my RotRL party with a Greater Barghest
16:04:35 <Steven> so what up here
16:14:19 <Mekkis> everyone died
16:21:36 <Steven> thats sad
16:25:39 <Blasticka> when is the next scheduled game for 1-2 level players? or is there going to be one any time soon?
16:31:02 <Avatar> I need to focus on some higher level games
16:38:01 <Steven> what up avatar
16:46:36 <Avatar> sup
16:47:24 <Avatar> Blasticka: do you know how much gold you got for that game
17:03:02 <Blasticka> no haven't got the chronicle sheet yet
17:04:51 <Blasticka> we found the 5000 gold (appraised) worth of gems in the bowl, but we lost the main artifact and kinda "failed" the quest
17:04:52 <Avatar> which first steps was it
17:04:58 <Blasticka> so I'm not sure how much we would get. part 3
17:05:26 <Avatar> you get 401gp
17:05:53 <Steven> there switched EXP around
17:06:08 <Steven> i am level 4 with 1xp from leveling to 6
17:25:17 <Steven> alright
17:26:16 <Steven> got 10k to spend
17:33:20 <Blasticka> thanks avatar I'll get to level up Ceybur to 2 now
17:35:06 <Blasticka> man. all I get is an extra cantrip
17:35:09 <Blasticka> lol
17:37:37 <Blasticka> can I have both mage armor and shield?
17:37:41 <Blasticka> active at one time?
17:38:51 <Steven> yes
17:49:05 <Blasticka> iinnnnteresting.
17:52:35 <Steven> cant decide what to buy
17:54:01 <Steven> agile Amulet of Mighty Fists
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18:07:28 <Steven> have 6400g left
18:09:58 <Avatar> give it to me ! ha ha !
18:10:23 <Avatar> Blasticka: mage armor lasts hours/level, shield lasts rounds/level
18:10:29 <Brunius|M-> What a funny guy
18:10:34 <Avatar> thx
18:11:06 <Brunius|M-> Isn't there usually a con mid year?
18:12:16 <Avatar> conquest easter, unicon september
18:14:28 <Steven> found something else
18:14:31 <Steven> handy Haversack
18:15:09 <Avatar> boots of the cat
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18:16:05 <Steven> hmmmm 4400 left
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18:16:50 <Blasticka> ah well that's less useful
18:17:03 <Blasticka> 2 rounds of shield I'd be better off taking total defense
18:17:34 <Steven> and shield lasts minutes per level
18:18:02 <Blasticka> still. 2 minutes is barely one fight
18:18:42 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to dicebot
18:18:47 <Brunius|M-> Uh
18:18:54 <Brunius|M-> Two minutes is she's
18:18:59 <Brunius|M-> Ages rather
18:19:07 <Brunius|M-> That's 20 rounds
18:19:15 <Ballig> I think more accurately: 2 minutes is easily one fight, but very rarely more than one
18:19:42 <Steven> unless a character sprints through rooms
18:20:01 <Brunius|M-> I don't know anybody like that...
18:20:22 <Ballig> some scenarios are set up so that you enter one room, fight, enter the next room, fight
18:20:24 <Steven> ive done it before
18:20:24 <Ballig> but it's not common
18:20:56 <Brunius|M-> You're usually going to take some time to catch your breath, bandage wounds, and so on anyway
18:22:11 <Avatar> is shield minutes
18:22:29 <Brunius|M-> !spell shield
18:22:38 <diebot> Brunius|M-, SHIELD abjuration ([force]) sorcerer/wizard 1, alchemist 1, summoner 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:
18:22:38 <Steven> so..... Lens of Detection
18:22:38 <diebot> Shield creates an invisible shield of force that hovers in front of you. It negates magic missile attacks directed at you. The disk also provides a +4 shield bonus to AC. This bonus applies against incorporeal touch attacks, since it is a force effect. The shield has no armor check penalty or arcane spell failure chance.
18:22:44 <Steven> think imma get that shit
18:22:55 <Steven> +5 competence bonus on perception checks
18:23:01 <Brunius|M-> What does it do?
18:23:27 <Steven> so, +17 on perception checks
18:23:45 <Brunius|M-> Ehhhh....
18:24:20 <Steven> nah eyes of the eagle are cheaper
18:26:25 <Blasticka> so, for magical items, do I have to own the book they are in to buy them? or do we have to find them first in a quest?
18:26:52 <Brunius|M-> You have to own the book, and either have enough fame to buy it or find it
18:26:53 <Avatar> you have to own the book for everything you have
18:26:55 <Avatar> now just items
18:26:58 <Avatar> not*
18:27:05 <Steven> you have to own to book unless you find them in a quest and they are on the chronicle sheet
18:27:24 <Avatar> you don't need the book if they're on a chronicle sheet?
18:27:32 <Brunius|M-> That's strange
18:27:42 <Avatar> double check that one mr VL
18:31:22 <Steven> Every item listed on your Chronicle
18:31:23 <Steven> sheets is considered always available for purchase for you,
18:31:23 <Steven> regardless of whether it’s on your first Chronicle sheet or
18:31:23 <Steven> your 21st Chronicle sheet. The only exceptions are items
18:31:23 <Steven> that have a purchase limit. You may never purchase more
18:31:23 <Steven> of that item throughout the life of your character than
18:31:23 <Steven> the number amount listed as the purchase limit.
18:32:33 <Steven> its how it was explained to me.
18:33:20 <Steven> ive seen like 3-5 items that were not included with a description on a chronicle sheet
18:33:32 <Steven> that werent from the core assumption
18:33:58 <Steven> and one of them i would have to purchase a module to use otherwise.
18:34:08 <Steven> which i never would run because its the worst module out there.
18:34:53 <Steven> the GM talks for like 3 hours
18:35:12 <Steven> while you answer in 2-3 sentances, and then he talks for like another hour
18:35:25 <Steven> and then you move direction to a dungeon crawl through like 4-5 rooms
18:35:35 <Steven> and thats the end of the module.
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18:45:03 <Avatar> trust Yiroep
18:45:51 <Steven> dont trust yiroep
18:46:08 <Avatar> you decide!
18:46:09 <Yiroep> heh
18:46:11 <Steven> they murder babies!
18:50:56 <Steven> now us VLs and VCs are debating the chronicle sheet thing...
18:51:02 <Steven> before they were talking about my little pony lol
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19:16:49 <Steven> so....
19:16:52 <Steven> this weekend
19:16:57 <Steven> playin me a module with honey
19:18:20 <Steven> Tomb of the Iron Medusa
19:19:26 <Blasticka> thanks for the clarification guys
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19:21:08 <Steven> Sylvan, Aklo, Goblin, Necril, Abyssal, Infernal, Azlanti, Nagaji, Ancient Osiriani, Sphinx, Shoanti, Treant, Aboleth, Sign Language, Vaarisian, Thessalonian, Aquan, Ignan, Auran, Terran, Jistka, Polyglot, Brethedan, Lashunta, Shobhad
19:21:30 <Steven> i need 3 more languages
19:24:52 <spider21b> hi
19:28:12 <Avatar> dwarven, elven, orc
19:28:22 <Steven> takin orc..
19:28:34 <Steven> i dont want to pick the racial languages of the core race
19:28:53 <Avatar> goblin
19:28:57 <Avatar> oh wait that's there
19:29:05 <Steven> orc, Cyclops....
19:29:19 <Avatar> shadowtongue
19:29:24 <Avatar> dtang
19:29:32 <Avatar> erutaki
19:29:45 <Steven> thinkin Protean...
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19:30:24 <Steven> mebe D'ziriak
19:31:03 <Steven> just crazy languages
19:31:56 <Steven> screw cyclops ill just get giant
19:32:13 <Steven> since cyclops speak giant
19:33:25 <Steven> ooooo dark Folk
19:35:28 <Blasticka> quick question
19:35:44 <Blasticka> for a sorc with a 14 constitution
19:35:57 <Blasticka> how many hit points do I get for going to level 2, if I take the bonus hit point
19:36:07 <Blasticka> is it 3? or 4.
19:36:29 <Steven> 4+con mod
19:36:37 <Blasticka> serious? nice
19:36:56 <Blasticka> so that would be 6 then. does that include the favored class hit point?
19:38:05 <Steven> no
19:41:16 <Blasticka> do humans get a bonus skill point every level or just first?
19:49:51 <Steven> at every level
19:53:20 <Blasticka> okay I've signed up for the kirin game.
19:53:25 <Blasticka> could be tough
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19:55:53 <spider21b> hi!
19:57:25 <Brunius> hi
19:57:56 <Steven> hi
19:57:57 <Brunius> Blasticka, isn't way of the kirin a 3-7? I thought you only had a level 2 character?
19:59:58 <Blasticka> I was invited to it, and saw there is a level 1 player in there already
20:00:25 <Blasticka> so I'm not sure
20:00:39 <Blasticka> should I change it to decline?
20:04:48 <Brunius> Probably
20:06:24 <Steven> you could play a premade
20:07:53 <Blasticka> naw, I want to level up the sorcerer
20:08:46 <Blasticka> I'll log in sunday morning and if the spots aren't filled maybe I'll play a premade cleric to help out but it takes so long, and if none of the rewards would help Ceybur... seems silly.
20:09:34 <Blasticka> from level 2 to level 3, is it just another 3 experience needed or is it more?
20:09:51 <Brunius> It's always three needed
20:09:57 <Brunius> Well, unless you go slow track
20:10:00 <Blasticka> that's good.
20:10:00 <Brunius> When you need six
20:14:53 <Blasticka> hrm
20:14:59 <Blasticka> looks like lots of people online.
20:15:13 <Blasticka> Who's up for a pickup game? :-P lol. wish it wasnt so late.
20:19:42 <Blasticka> guess i'll play a game of league of legends. see you all in 30 minutes!
20:22:46 <Steven> yeah right
20:23:53 <spider21b> hi?
20:24:18 <spider21b> ouch
20:24:43 <spider21b> so, yea i got an ek for this game coming up
20:24:45 <spider21b> its awesome
20:32:09 <spider21b> anyone here?
20:32:16 <Steven> nope
20:32:19 <Steven> im gone
20:32:31 <spider21b> dang it!
20:32:54 <spider21b> why is no one around when i want to talk about spellbook
20:33:48 <Steven> no one likes spellbooks
20:34:33 <spider21b> but its my character
20:34:43 <Steven> no one likes spellbooks...
20:34:53 <spider21b> not even wizards?
20:35:41 <spider21b> fine his real name is spencer
20:36:10 <spider21b> Spencer Nightingale
20:36:20 <spider21b> happy?
20:37:13 <spider21b> is no one awake?
20:39:19 <Steven> nope
20:42:57 <Steven> im still sleeping
21:10:59 <spider21b> okies?
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21:30:17 <Steven> i'll be at 95/100 games by the 1st
21:31:38 <Steven> need to pick up a game or two
21:32:15 <Steven> sorry 94/100
21:32:22 <Steven> so ill be one short of 4staring at paizocon
21:43:55 <Blasticka> played or gm'd?
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